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Group: pota Message: 45772 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45773 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45774 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45775 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45776 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 45778 From: GDJ1231@aol.com Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45779 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Heston
Group: pota Message: 45780 From: ape_mom Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45781 From: ape_mom Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45782 From: ape_mom Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45783 From: ape_mom Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Last comment...
Group: pota Message: 45784 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: My Apologies to the Group
Group: pota Message: 45785 From: Judy Watson Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Almost made it
Group: pota Message: 45786 From: Colin Snow Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Linda Harrison
Group: pota Message: 45787 From: Jeff Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
Group: pota Message: 45788 From: Jeff Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: My Apologies to the Group
Group: pota Message: 45789 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45790 From: Jeff Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45791 From: James Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
Group: pota Message: 45792 From: Jeff Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
Group: pota Message: 45793 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45794 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
Group: pota Message: 45795 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45796 From: m c Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
Group: pota Message: 45797 From: Colin Snow Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
Group: pota Message: 45798 From: Jeff Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
Group: pota Message: 45799 From: drhasslein Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45800 From: David Giwner Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45801 From: David Giwner Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
Group: pota Message: 45802 From: James Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
Group: pota Message: 45803 From: shanter2002 Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
Group: pota Message: 45804 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
Group: pota Message: 45805 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
Group: pota Message: 45806 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Escape From the Planet of the Apes , 4/1/2008, 8:00 am
Group: pota Message: 45807 From: Mark Koziol Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Heston's final illness
Group: pota Message: 45809 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 45810 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Heston's final illness
Group: pota Message: 45811 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45812 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 45813 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
Group: pota Message: 45814 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
Group: pota Message: 45815 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Heston's final illness
Group: pota Message: 45816 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45817 From: David Giwner Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 45818 From: potatv Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45819 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
Group: pota Message: 45820 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45821 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45822 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
Group: pota Message: 45823 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
Group: pota Message: 45824 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45825 From: drhasslein Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45826 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
Group: pota Message: 45827 From: Meg Griffin Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45828 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45829 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45830 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 45831 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45832 From: David Giwner Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45833 From: John Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45834 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45835 From: James Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45836 From: m c Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
Group: pota Message: 45837 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
Group: pota Message: 45838 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45839 From: m c Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
Group: pota Message: 45840 From: Jeff Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
Group: pota Message: 45841 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
Group: pota Message: 45842 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
Group: pota Message: 45843 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45844 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45845 From: Bobby Smyth Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45846 From: GDJ1231@aol.com Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45847 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45848 From: James Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45849 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45850 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45851 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
Group: pota Message: 45852 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
Group: pota Message: 45853 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
Group: pota Message: 45854 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
Group: pota Message: 45855 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
Group: pota Message: 45856 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45857 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
Group: pota Message: 45858 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
Group: pota Message: 45859 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: ...Work in Progress (Billy?)
Group: pota Message: 45860 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: ...Work in Progress (Billy?)
Group: pota Message: 45861 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
Group: pota Message: 45862 From: Karyl Miller Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45863 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: ...Work in Progress (Billy?)
Group: pota Message: 45864 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 45865 From: juswannaknit Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
Group: pota Message: 45866 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45867 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: ...Work in Progress (Billy?)
Group: pota Message: 45868 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
Group: pota Message: 45869 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: ...Work in Progress (Billy?)
Group: pota Message: 45870 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Female Gorilla
Group: pota Message: 45871 From: Jeff Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
Group: pota Message: 45872 From: m c Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
Group: pota Message: 45873 From: m c Date: 4/2/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld



Group: pota Message: 45772 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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Helen, to be in a real costume is such a dream of mine.  Gotta save up the dough...but someday I will do it!!  I will probably sew my own costume and by that time I will be an expert in sewing...
 
It's great to have a partner, too...so you could look out for each other regarding grease marks etc...
 
I had to giggle when I read about you avoiding sharing food with the humans. 
 
Even though I was not able to be there, I was in spirit!!!
 
You gals rocked...
 
Jessica.
 


 
On 3/30/08, PofTAfan@... <PofTAfan@...> wrote:

It looks like you guys had a great time, I wish I could have made it.
I've seen apes in a movie theatre before, but I shold have made an attempt
to come up there.

Kevin

 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 5:23 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "juswannaknit" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
>
> Gosh how EXCITING! I really wish I could have been there. What a
> fantastic idea to wear costumes. Was it difficult to eat with the
> costumes on, I wonder? Someday!!!! I would really love to be in
> costume.
>
> Jessica.
>

Hi Jessica! It's nice to have a chance to meet you. We had a hard
time deciding whether or not to wear the costumes, mostly because of
the food. We were going to go from plate to plate and pinch things
from the others, but we didn't think that would be sanitary. (They
are humans, after all.)

We ate French fries and drank from straws. Then we watched each other
to see that there weren't grease marks and spills on the faces.

One day I would LOVE to have real appliances with glue and latex and
the whole deal. But I was just glad for the chance to dress up as
Apes once again and go out on the town.

It's a riot! I hope you get the chance.

Helen

 

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Group: pota Message: 45773 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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"It looks like you guys had a great time, I wish I could have made it.
I've seen apes in a movie theatre before, but I shold have made an
attempt
to come up there.

Kevin"

PLANET will be showing at the Ziegfeld until April 3rd!

On April 3, 1968 "Planet of the Apes" opened wide across the country.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 45774 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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"Helen, to be in a real costume is such a dream of mine. Gotta save up
the dough...but someday I will do it!!"

I did it a couple times back in my college days -- and hated it! I
mean I liked having the makeup on. It was cool to watch myself in a
mirror make different expressions, but I hated going in public.
Everyone stares at you and points and asks you endless questions and
pokes your face.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 45775 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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Rory, I bet if a bunch of us got together it would be loads of fun!!
 
I'm trying to get to the Star Trek convention in SF at the end of the year, and I'm going to be in Lieutenant Uhura regalia.  (hope I still fit my costume). 
 
I love to be in costume...you can be such a different person when you are in costume.  I am usually one of the quiet ones until I get in costume.
 
Jessica

 
On 3/30/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

"Helen, to be in a real costume is such a dream of mine. Gotta save up
the dough...but someday I will do it!!"

I did it a couple times back in my college days -- and hated it! I
mean I liked having the makeup on. It was cool to watch myself in a
mirror make different expressions, but I hated going in public.
Everyone stares at you and points and asks you endless questions and
pokes your face.

-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 45776 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Group: pota Message: 45778 From: GDJ1231@aol.com Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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This was posted TODAY on IMDB:
 
Final stages of disease
by Hobbitfeet0894   1 hour ago (Sun Mar 30 2008 19:27:01)
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The parade magazine today reported that charlton heston is in the final stages of alzheimer's disease. I dont think I need to explain what that means. Just when I was trying to get over richard widmark i get this news. I justcan't believe it. I'm almost in tears as i write this. I geuss i alwaysthought he'd live forever.
 
In a message dated 3/30/2008 8:02:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, PofTAfan@... writes:

It looks like you guys had a great time, I wish I could have made it.
I've seen apes in a movie theatre before, but I shold have made an attempt
to come up there.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom <sand_hill_school@ yahoo.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 5:23 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "juswannaknit" <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> Gosh how EXCITING! I really wish I could have been there. What a
> fantastic idea to wear costumes. Was it difficult to eat with the
> costumes on, I wonder? Someday!!!! I would really love to be in
> costume.
>
> Jessica.
>

Hi Jessica! It's nice to have a chance to meet you. We had a hard
time deciding whether or not to wear the costumes, mostly because of
the food. We were going to go from plate to plate and pinch things
from the others, but we didn't think that would be sanitary. (They
are humans, after all.)

We ate French fries and drank from straws. Then we watched each other
to see that there weren't grease marks and spills on the faces.

One day I would LOVE to have real appliances with glue and latex and
the whole deal. But I was just glad for the chance to dress up as
Apes once again and go out on the town.

It's a riot! I hope you get the chance.

Helen





Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home.
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Group: pota Message: 45779 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Heston
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 This is what was printed in "Parade" (3/30/08):
 
  Q: Charlton Heston's family hasn't commented on his condition since he revealed he has Alzheimer's. What can you tell us?
 
  A: Heston, 83, is in the final stages of the disease and has 24-hour care at his homein Beverly Hills, which he built with his pay from "Ben-Hur". His son and daughter visit regularly. "He's not plugged into machines", a family friend tells us, "and his wife Lydia doesn't plan to use any to extend his life".
   It also has a picture of Heston and Lydia from 2002.  Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

This was posted TODAY on IMDB:
 
Final stages of disease
by Hobbitfeet0894   1 hour ago (Sun Mar 30 2008 19:27:01)
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The parade magazine today reported that charlton heston is in the final stages of alzheimer's disease. I dont think I need to explain what that means. Just when I was trying to get over richard widmark i get this news. I justcan't believe it. I'm almost in tears as i write this. I geuss i alwaysthought he'd live forever.
 
In a message dated 3/30/2008 8:02:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, PofTAfan@aol. com writes:

It looks like you guys had a great time, I wish I could have made it.
I've seen apes in a movie theatre before, but I shold have made an attempt
to come up there.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom <sand_hill_school@ yahoo.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 5:23 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "juswannaknit" <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> Gosh how EXCITING! I really wish I could have been there. What a
> fantastic idea to wear costumes. Was it difficult to eat with the
> costumes on, I wonder? Someday!!!! I would really love to be in
> costume.
>
> Jessica.
>

Hi Jessica! It's nice to have a chance to meet you. We had a hard
time deciding whether or not to wear the costumes, mostly because of
the food. We were going to go from plate to plate and pinch things
from the others, but we didn't think that would be sanitary. (They
are humans, after all.)

We ate French fries and drank from straws. Then we watched each other
to see that there weren't grease marks and spills on the faces.

One day I would LOVE to have real appliances with glue and latex and
the whole deal. But I was just glad for the chance to dress up as
Apes once again and go out on the town.

It's a riot! I hope you get the chance.

Helen





Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home.

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Group: pota Message: 45780 From: ape_mom Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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The face poking thing is the worst! A few years back when we did the
parade thing, an old teacher came up and ripped off my brother's face
-- tearing it, cracking it, and twisting it away from his face. It
takes forever to get it on right (even the mask) and to set it so that
the jaw moves and the cheeks and stuff. It works its way off, anyway,
but this woman destroyed his face. It was heartbreaking.

I'd love to just SEE a real costume. Billy's Basement was a great
reference for us when we made the costumes. I'd have loved to go
there and see his collection. One day, Jessica.

We had a lot of fun because we were with friends and the guys were
great! Even if the New Yorkers hadn't been so welcoming, we would
have felt like celebrities just in the group! Thanks, guys. You were
very sweet!

So, have a great time today, Rory!

Helen



--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> "Helen, to be in a real costume is such a dream of mine. Gotta save up
> the dough...but someday I will do it!!"
>
> I did it a couple times back in my college days -- and hated it! I
> mean I liked having the makeup on. It was cool to watch myself in a
> mirror make different expressions, but I hated going in public.
> Everyone stares at you and points and asks you endless questions and
> pokes your face.
>
> -- Rory
>
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Group: pota Message: 45781 From: ape_mom Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
>
> I love to be in costume...you can be such a different person when
you are in
> costume. I am usually one of the quiet ones until I get in costume.
>
> Jessica
>



I'm with you, Jessica. I'm basically VERY quiet. It is fun to walk
around knowing that no one sees past the mask.

I wouldn't feel comfortable in just any costume, though. There are
all sorts of good thoughts that go with wearing this stuff. My
daughter and I shared that, along with the new memories that come
along with it the next time.

Helen
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Group: pota Message: 45782 From: ape_mom Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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Thanks, Jessica!

The faces for the masks were a gift from Brian at Apemania. We were
doing a school project and when he heard about it he offered to send
some faces that he had that he couldn't use. Then he helped us by
sending directions and advice. It was a really great experience, and
we were really floundering until Brian came along. ("Thanks, Bri.")

The costumes were tricky, because we are pretty rural here. Brian
suggested plum colored duck fabric for the gorillas, which we were
able to find. But all we could find in a remotely Zira green was this
linen. I lined my costume to make it heavier. The parade was in
June, so most of our chimps didn't think that was a very good idea and
just went with the lightweight linen.

Helen



--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Helen, to be in a real costume is such a dream of mine. Gotta save
up the
> dough...but someday I will do it!! I will probably sew my own
costume and
> by that time I will be an expert in sewing...
>
> It's great to have a partner, too...so you could look out for each other
> regarding grease marks etc...
>
> I had to giggle when I read about you avoiding sharing food with the
> humans.
>
> Even though I was not able to be there, I was in spirit!!!
>
> You gals rocked...
>
> Jessica.
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 45783 From: ape_mom Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Last comment...
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Thanks for all the photos, guys. I don't suppose you'd mind sending
along the originals? We were tickled by all the attention. It was a
seriously good time.

So... I've got to get focussed on my finals. It's a little tricky to
change gears to statistics and Boy Scouts v. Dale when I keep getting
drawn back here.

Still smiling...

Helen
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Group: pota Message: 45784 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: My Apologies to the Group
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with me too, you´re great.

2008/3/28, job1866@... <job1866@...>:

Greetings, everyone. It has been pointed out to me that the link I
posted to download the Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack is apparently
an "illegal download". I honestly did not realize this, or I wouldn't
have posted the link. I would never intentionally ask anyone to do
anything wrong, and I am sincerely asking your forgiveness for pointing
you in the "wrong direction". I thought I had found something good,
but as it has been pointed out to me, if it is "too good to be true",
it's obviously not good. Please forgive my ignorance, and I promise to
better research anything I find in the future. Thank you for
understanding, and I hope I can earn your forgiveness.

Jeff (RedSpy)
 
 
theres nothing to forgive. Youre still cool with me...............Joseph OBrien




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Group: pota Message: 45785 From: Judy Watson Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Almost made it
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I'm suprised you two didn't make it on the news - ususally costumes always get press !

ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
Thanks, Judy. It's good to meet you. It's too bad you weren't able
to make it.

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Judy Watson <bettabeedee@ ...> wrote:
>
> I was just looking at those wonderful photos in the Group Pix -
Helen and Amanda - you are awesome ! I was in NYC last weekend - saw
James Naughton do cabaret show at NJ Performing Arts Center - and it
cost enough just to stay over for one night. If it had been last
weekend I probably would have gone to the theatre to be with you all.
I saw Planet of the Apes on the big screen - and I would love to see
it again 40 years later. I think its wonderful when group members can
get together, especially for Apes.
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ---
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Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
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Group: pota Message: 45786 From: Colin Snow Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Linda Harrison
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Anyone know that she had a small part in the Tim Burton Apes ?

The way it's listed on IMDB is Planet of the Apes (2001) .... Woman in Cart

Just interesting info...................
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Group: pota Message: 45787 From: Jeff Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
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Yes, Linda is in the wagon cage with Leo when he first gets to Ape
City. She is looking at him and shaking her head, trying to get him to
stop talking out loud. Linda and Charlton Heston (as Thade's dying
daddy) are the only two actors from the original to appear in the
remake.

Jeff (RedSpy)


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Snow" <colindsnow@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone know that she had a small part in the Tim Burton Apes ?
>
> The way it's listed on IMDB is Planet of the Apes (2001) .... Woman
in Cart
>
> Just interesting info...................
>
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Group: pota Message: 45788 From: Jeff Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: My Apologies to the Group
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Thank you for making me feel like I'm still welcome, folks. I will
continue to share things I find with the group. I'll just be more
careful about what I post in the future. If anyone has any trouble
downloading the animations I donated to the group's download page,
just let me know, and I'll be happy to send them to your direct e-
mail.

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Gelson Nicolini Monteiro"
<gelsonnicolini@...> wrote:
>
> with me too, you´re great.
>
> 2008/3/28, job1866@... <job1866@...>:
> >
> > Greetings, everyone. It has been pointed out to me that the
link I
> > posted to download the Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack is apparently
> > an "illegal download". I honestly did not realize this, or I
wouldn't
> > have posted the link. I would never intentionally ask anyone to do
> > anything wrong, and I am sincerely asking your forgiveness for
pointing
> > you in the "wrong direction". I thought I had found something
good,
> > but as it has been pointed out to me, if it is "too good to be
true",
> > it's obviously not good. Please forgive my ignorance, and I
promise to
> > better research anything I find in the future. Thank you for
> > understanding, and I hope I can earn your forgiveness.
> >
> > Jeff (RedSpy)
> >
> >
> > theres nothing to forgive. Youre still cool with
me...............Joseph
> > OBrien
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL
Home<http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?
video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001>
> > .
> >
> >
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 45789 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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Helen I noticed that, too, but didn't want to be the first to mention it...being a guy and all. Leaving  the soggy ship Taylor had boxers on but shortly thereafter he was wearing briefs.
 
Bruce
 
 
In a message dated 3/30/2008 6:47:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:
Oh, and Taylor was wearing what appeared to be boxers in the first
scene and briefs in the next. Did he have a change of shorts in his
pack? Just curious.

Helen





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Group: pota Message: 45790 From: Jeff Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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When I was 12--13, I would come home from school, put on my POTA Gorilla or Zaius mask and run up and down the street for the next 6 hours.  I learned to tolerate wearing a rubber mask until I learned how to use foam latex.  I can , and have worn a foam face for up to 2 days now.  Yeah people do want to touch and poke at you, but it's all part of the deal.
 
Jeff B 
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Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

"Helen, to be in a real costume is such a dream of mine. Gotta save up
the dough...but someday I will do it!!"

I did it a couple times back in my college days -- and hated it! I
mean I liked having the makeup on. It was cool to watch myself in a
mirror make different expressions, but I hated going in public.
Everyone stares at you and points and asks you endless questions and
pokes your face.

-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 45791 From: James Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
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Tonight on the sitcom 'The Big Bang Theory' several of the characters go to a Planet of the Apes marathon. When they get to the theater everyone is wearing Ape masks. The big one-liner was, "Get your stinking paws off my popcorn you damn dirty ape".
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Group: pota Message: 45792 From: Jeff Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
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Sounds like an item to be included on the next "rarities" DVD.

Jeff (RedSpy)


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Tonight on the sitcom 'The Big Bang Theory' several of the characters
go
> to a Planet of the Apes marathon. When they get to the theater
everyone
> is wearing Ape masks. The big one-liner was, "Get your stinking paws
off
> my popcorn you damn dirty ape".
>
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Group: pota Message: 45793 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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In a message dated 3/30/08 5:47:40 PM, sand_hill_school@... writes:


It seems
that she had at least three (or one that was washed and faded more
than once).


I always wondered about the Zira #1.  Maybe it was used in some tests.
It sure seemed to have a lot more orange in it, especially compared to
the one use for Escape.  More Articoke than Olive.  Especially in the light.



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Group: pota Message: 45794 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
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In a message dated 3/30/08 7:14:41 PM, aboro3085@... writes:


sufficed. Watch the other apes, none of them do it as obviously as Mc Dowall. I prefer their more subtle approach(es)s


Thank you!
That's the difference between Hunter & McDowell.
Acting vs Overacting.



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Group: pota Message: 45795 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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I almost confused Richard Whitmark with James Whimore.
Navy Frogman, not President of the Assembly.



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Group: pota Message: 45796 From: m c Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
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*** Yeah, I knew it. And all her and Heston's appearances were was window dressing. They threw them into it to try giving some "authenticity" to their project. That and they were used as a "draw card" to sucker some people who like the original into seeing the pota2001 too. It was all a cheap stunt. ***

Colin Snow <colindsnow@...> wrote:
Anyone know that she had a small part in the Tim Burton Apes ?

The way it's listed on IMDB is Planet of the Apes (2001) .... Woman in Cart

Just interesting info...................


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Group: pota Message: 45797 From: Colin Snow Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
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Kinda like that circus thing someone wrote about a few days or weeks back? hehe

Just for record, I didn't care for the 2001 version like most of ye.

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:09 PM, m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:
*** Yeah, I knew it. And all her and Heston's appearances were was window dressing. They threw them into it to try giving some "authenticity" to their project. That and they were used as a "draw card" to sucker some people who like the original into seeing the pota2001 too. It was all a cheap stunt. ***
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Group: pota Message: 45798 From: Jeff Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
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I agree with you. I don't think they should have used the quotes
from the original movie ("stinking paws"/"damn them all to hell",
etc.). If it had been named differently, and not tried to "connect"
with the original, I feel it would have been better accepted as a
film on it's own merit. By making so many comparisons to the
original, it made us expect much more from it. They were originally
going to do a true remake, with Governor Ahhnold as Taylor. I'm
still hoping someone will do a true remake someday. The "Hulk" movie
a few years ago was a big disappointment, and they have already
remade that one (this time starring Edward Norton), so maybe someone
will still remake PLANET while sticking to the original concept and
story.

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> *** Yeah, I knew it. And all her and Heston's appearances were was
window dressing. They threw them into it to try giving
some "authenticity" to their project. That and they were used as
a "draw card" to sucker some people who like the original into seeing
the pota2001 too. It was all a cheap stunt. ***
>
> Colin Snow <colindsnow@...> wrote: Anyone know that she
had a small part in the Tim Burton Apes ?
>
> The way it's listed on IMDB is Planet of the Apes (2001) .... Woman
in Cart
>
> Just interesting info...................
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of
Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
>
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Group: pota Message: 45799 From: drhasslein Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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Was there a big reaction when Cornelius says they won't need weapons -
and Heston responds- "I'm glad to hear it. I want one anyway!"
That usually gets the biggest response in the screenings I've seen
here, obviously because of Chuck & the NRA.

That line and when Dodge and Landon are nude, kneeling to see the
human footprint, and Taylor is slow to kneel with them. Those two
bits got the biggest response, in 68 I doubt the crowd reactions were
the same....




--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> "David Giwner" <bikergator25@...> wrote:
>
> "I was with James today. I stayed for the 8pm showing as well as
the 5pm.
> The crowd was a little more livelier for the 8pm. I thought the
audio was
> great and the print was pretty good.
> We watched the 5pm in the back. For the 8pm we sat closer to the
> screen... You could see the sweat beating off Heston....
> Seeing the movie on the big screen was great. I noticed things I
have not
> seen before.... "
>
>
> I was going to mention the same thing Dave. The 8PM crowd was
definitely
> little more enthusiastic than the 5PM one. Both "Get your stinking
paws
> off me..." and "It's a madhouse!!" drew rounds of applause, as did
the
> 20th Century Fox logo at the beginning. And it really is cool how
you see
> so much more of the set design and art direction on the big screen.
Like
> we both mentioned last night, I never realized that there was a
water
> fountain in the infirmary, or drainage paths set in the floor.
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 45800 From: David Giwner Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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At th e 8pm showing the crowd did react to Heston saying he wanted a gun anyways....
I love that scene and line...
DAVE NYC....

drhasslein <drhasslein@...> wrote:
Was there a big reaction when Cornelius says they won't need weapons -
and Heston responds- "I'm glad to hear it. I want one anyway!"
That usually gets the biggest response in the screenings I've seen
here, obviously because of Chuck & the NRA.

That line and when Dodge and Landon are nude, kneeling to see the
human footprint, and Taylor is slow to kneel with them. Those two
bits got the biggest response, in 68 I doubt the crowd reactions were
the same....

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@. ..> wrote:
>
> "David Giwner" <bikergator25@ ...> wrote:
>
> "I was with James today. I stayed for the 8pm showing as well as
the 5pm.
> The crowd was a little more livelier for the 8pm. I thought the
audio was
> great and the print was pretty good.
> We watched the 5pm in the back. For the 8pm we sat closer to the
> screen... You could see the sweat beating off Heston....
> Seeing the movie on the big screen was great. I noticed things I
have not
> seen before.... "
>
>
> I was going to mention the same thing Dave. The 8PM crowd was
definitely
> little more enthusiastic than the 5PM one. Both "Get your stinking
paws
> off me..." and "It's a madhouse!!" drew rounds of applause, as did
the
> 20th Century Fox logo at the beginning. And it really is cool how
you see
> so much more of the set design and art direction on the big screen.
Like
> we both mentioned last night, I never realized that there was a
water
> fountain in the infirmary, or drainage paths set in the floor.
>
>
>



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Group: pota Message: 45801 From: David Giwner Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
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Im going to look for that on you tube..
DAve.

James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
Tonight on the sitcom 'The Big Bang Theory' several of the characters go to a Planet of the Apes marathon. When they get to the theater everyone is wearing Ape masks. The big one-liner was, "Get your stinking paws off my popcorn you damn dirty ape".


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Group: pota Message: 45802 From: James Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
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The episode is online at the CBS website: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_bang_theory/video/video.php?cid=501654014&pid=UY1elstTJYUXgpQYTDdKaocJpQ3oPYB0&play=true&cc=0


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:
>
> Im going to look for that on you tube..
> DAve.
>
> James JamesA1102@... wrote:
> Tonight on the sitcom 'The Big Bang Theory' several of the characters go to a Planet of the Apes marathon. When they get to the theater everyone is wearing Ape masks. The big one-liner was, "Get your stinking paws off my popcorn you damn dirty ape".
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 45803 From: shanter2002 Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
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In my opinion, Roddy McDowall was never guilty of over acting,
certainly not in his Apes roles.I find the suggestion
astonishing.Roddy McDowall gave a series of nuanced and well judged
performances that , in turn, gave us a series of characters that
still resonate today.How Kim Hunter's performance in ,say, Escape,
can be used as a contrast to Roddy's 'over acting' frankly beggars
belief. John, Scrolls.
>
>
> In a message dated 3/30/08 7:14:41 PM, aboro3085@... writes:
>
>
> > sufficed. Watch the other apes, none of them do it as obviously
as Mc
> > Dowall. I prefer their more subtle approach(es)s
> >
>
> Thank you!
> That's the difference between Hunter & McDowell.
> Acting vs Overacting.
>
>
>
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> Home.
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Group: pota Message: 45804 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
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Thank you for spotting that James, and for posting the link... I had never seen it before and would definitely have missed it. 
 
Jessica.

 
On 3/31/08, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

The episode is online at the CBS website: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_bang_theory/video/video.php?cid=501654014&pid=UY1elstTJYUXgpQYTDdKaocJpQ3oPYB0&play=true&cc=0


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:
>
> Im going to look for that on you tube..
> DAve.
>
> James JamesA1102@... wrote:
> Tonight on the sitcom 'The Big Bang Theory' several of the characters go to a Planet of the Apes marathon. When they get to the theater everyone is wearing Ape masks. The big one-liner was, "Get your stinking paws off my popcorn you damn dirty ape".
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 45805 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
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Thank you, John, I agree. The faces that were believable to me were
the ones that showed a bit of emotion. That involves some pretty
significant facial movement. Eyes, cheek, mouth movement. Some of
the Apes did move their mouths a bit, but didn't seem to have any life
under the mask. Some, without moving the mouth much, showed anger or
interest and it came through the mask.

Actually, there were a couple places where Roddy wasn't as
demonstrative, and I didn't think he did as well. The scene in his
(or was it Zira's) home, for example. I thought his voice was muffled
and his facial movements weren't as believable. I thought it sounded
like he was having a little trouble with his face.

I'm wondering if anyone knows if the orangutans had more trouble
working the faces than the other species. I wasn't as impressed with
their acting. Maybe the faces were harder to work with?




--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> In my opinion, Roddy McDowall was never guilty of over acting,
> certainly not in his Apes roles.I find the suggestion
> astonishing.Roddy McDowall gave a series of nuanced and well judged
> performances that , in turn, gave us a series of characters that
> still resonate today.How Kim Hunter's performance in ,say, Escape,
> can be used as a contrast to Roddy's 'over acting' frankly beggars
> belief. John, Scrolls.
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 45806 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Escape From the Planet of the Apes , 4/1/2008, 8:00 am
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Group: pota Message: 45807 From: Mark Koziol Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Heston's final illness
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While I never agreed with Mr. Heston's conservative politics, nor Ronald Reagan's policies, either, I pray for his family and for him in this most trying time.  Having just lost my Dad last year to a 5 year battle with cancer, I can empathize with the Heston family.  Taking care of a loved owns health at home while their condition deteriorates over time, is a very difficult task for the family and the caregivers. 
 
Fortunately, movie fans shall always have Charlton Heston's many wonderful movies to watch over and over again from Ben Hur to 10 Commandants to POTA to Soylent Green as well as his very very funny hosting of a  Saturday Night Live show in the mid 1990s when he proved he could do comedy and make fun of himself in a good natured way.
 
mark
 
 


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Group: pota Message: 45809 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
group.

File : /03-31-2008 11;28;15PM.JPG
Uploaded by : jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
Description : NY Post write-up. Thanks to Dave.

You can access this file at the URL:
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Group: pota Message: 45810 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Heston's final illness
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I wish I had seen that, Mark. It's cool to picture him poking fun at
himself. I love the guy partly because of his association with the
NRA. Somehow the bit on the beach about knowing how to use a gun
really resonated this time. In spite of the fact that the guy is
Moses, there is something very, well, human about him.

My dad was sick for a couple years with a brain tumor before he passed
(over 20 years ago). Very sad, but in retrospect it was a good time
for our family. I wish them all peace at this time and join you in
sending my prayers.

Helen


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mark Koziol <expandingmarkk1964@...> wrote:
>
...his very very funny hosting of a Saturday Night Live show in the
mid 1990s when he proved he could do comedy and make fun of himself in
a good natured way.
>
> mark
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 45811 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
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  The biggest response is usually, "Take your stinking paws off me...". That usually gets applause.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: drhasslein
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

Was there a big reaction when Cornelius says they won't need weapons -
and Heston responds- "I'm glad to hear it. I want one anyway!"
That usually gets the biggest response in the screenings I've seen
here, obviously because of Chuck & the NRA.

That line and when Dodge and Landon are nude, kneeling to see the
human footprint, and Taylor is slow to kneel with them. Those two
bits got the biggest response, in 68 I doubt the crowd reactions were
the same....

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@. ..> wrote:
>
> "David Giwner" <bikergator25@ ...> wrote:
>
> "I was with James today. I stayed for the 8pm showing as well as
the 5pm.
> The crowd was a little more livelier for the 8pm. I thought the
audio was
> great and the print was pretty good.
> We watched the 5pm in the back. For the 8pm we sat closer to the
> screen... You could see the sweat beating off Heston....
> Seeing the movie on the big screen was great. I noticed things I
have not
> seen before.... "
>
>
> I was going to mention the same thing Dave. The 8PM crowd was
definitely
> little more enthusiastic than the 5PM one. Both "Get your stinking
paws
> off me..." and "It's a madhouse!!" drew rounds of applause, as did
the
> 20th Century Fox logo at the beginning. And it really is cool how
you see
> so much more of the set design and art direction on the big screen.
Like
> we both mentioned last night, I never realized that there was a
water
> fountain in the infirmary, or drainage paths set in the floor.
>
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 45812 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
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Attachments :
    that's cool!
    HEre's a color version of that pic....



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    > Description : NY Post write-up. Thanks to Dave.
    >
    > You can access this file at the URL:
    >
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    >
    >
    > To learn more about file sharing for your group,
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    >
    >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45813 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/1/2008
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      That was pretty bad. When a sitcom wants to get cheap laughs, they trot out POTA. It's not worth your time.  Jeff
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Jeff
    Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:50 PM
    Subject: [pota] Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!

    Sounds like an item to be included on the next "rarities" DVD.

    Jeff (RedSpy)

    --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "James" <JamesA1102@ ...> wrote:
    >
    > Tonight on the sitcom 'The Big Bang Theory' several of the characters
    go
    > to a Planet of the Apes marathon. When they get to the theater
    everyone
    > is wearing Ape masks. The big one-liner was, "Get your stinking paws
    off
    > my popcorn you damn dirty ape".
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 45814 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
    .html
    now that was just silly.....do they really think
    people would go to see Planet of the APes dressed in
    ape masks?? I mean really....who does that?

    ;)

    Tim

    --- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

    >
    > The episode is online at the CBS website:
    >
    http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_bang_theory/video/video.php?cid=5016540\
    >
    14&pid=UY1elstTJYUXgpQYTDdKaocJpQ3oPYB0&play=true&cc=0
    >
    <http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_bang_theory/video/video.php?cid=501654\
    >
    014&pid=UY1elstTJYUXgpQYTDdKaocJpQ3oPYB0&play=true&cc=0>
    >
    >
    > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Giwner
    > <bikergator25@...> wrote:
    > >
    > > Im going to look for that on you tube..
    > > DAve.
    > >
    > > James JamesA1102@... wrote:
    > > Tonight on the sitcom 'The Big Bang Theory'
    > several of the characters
    > go to a Planet of the Apes marathon. When they get
    > to the theater
    > everyone is wearing Ape masks. The big one-liner
    > was, "Get your stinking
    > paws off my popcorn you damn dirty ape".
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ---------------------------------
    > > No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access
    > now. Sweet deal for
    > Yahoo! users and friends.
    > >
    >
    >
    >



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    Group: pota Message: 45815 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Heston's final illness
    .html
    > I wish I had seen that, Mark. It's cool to picture him poking fun at
    > himself.

    The Apes portion of one of the shows he hosted is on the first
    Rarities DVD.

    Hunter
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    Group: pota Message: 45816 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    .html
    Yup, that's my daughter's favorite part. She quotes it often. It
    usually doesn't get the response she thinks it should.


    She's 8.


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > The biggest response is usually, "Take your stinking paws off
    me...". That usually gets applause.
    >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45817 From: David Giwner Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
    .html
    THats the photo I was telling you about on Saturday from the NY POST..
    DAVE NYC...

    "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
    that's cool!
    HEre's a color version of that pic....

    --- pota@yahoogroups. com wrote:

    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > This email message is a notification to let you know
    > that
    > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the
    > pota
    > group.
    >
    > File : /03-31-2008 11;28;15PM.JPG
    > Uploaded by : jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@aol. com>
    > Description : NY Post write-up. Thanks to Dave.
    >
    > You can access this file at the URL:
    >
    http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ files/03- 31-2008%2011% 3B28%3B15PM. JPG
    >
    >
    > To learn more about file sharing for your group,
    > please visit:
    >
    http://help. yahoo.com/ l/us/yahoo/ groups/original/ members/web/ index.htmliles
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@aol. com>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 45818 From: potatv Date: 4/1/2008
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    Group: pota Message: 45819 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
    .html
    The scene that takes place in Zira's home was another actor, not Roddy McDowall.
     
    There's a chimp with better makeup (not the very horrible pull-over masks) that shows up in many of the movies.  I don't know who acted him, but really bad facial movements from him shows up right after Heston's famous line, "Take your stinking paws off me..." in the 1968 movie. This chimp is in the lower left hand corner of the screen, and was among the chimps that were throwing rocks/food at Heston.  He's got a really bad tick on his face...now THAT is bad facial ticking...
     
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:12 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

    Thank you, John, I agree. The faces that were believable to me were
    the ones that showed a bit of emotion. That involves some pretty
    significant facial movement. Eyes, cheek, mouth movement. Some of
    the Apes did move their mouths a bit, but didn't seem to have any life
    under the mask. Some, without moving the mouth much, showed anger or
    interest and it came through the mask.

    Actually, there were a couple places where Roddy wasn't as
    demonstrative, and I didn't think he did as well. The scene in his
    (or was it Zira's) home, for example. I thought his voice was muffled
    and his facial movements weren't as believable. I thought it sounded
    like he was having a little trouble with his face.

    I'm wondering if anyone knows if the orangutans had more trouble
    working the faces than the other species. I wasn't as impressed with
    their acting. Maybe the faces were harder to work with?



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
    >
    > In my opinion, Roddy McDowall was never guilty of over acting,
    > certainly not in his Apes roles.I find the suggestion
    > astonishing.Roddy McDowall gave a series of nuanced and well judged
    > performances that , in turn, gave us a series of characters that
    > still resonate today.How Kim Hunter's performance in ,say, Escape,
    > can be used as a contrast to Roddy's 'over acting' frankly beggars
    > belief. John, Scrolls.
    > >
    >


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    Group: pota Message: 45820 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
    .html
    This is definitely bile-inducing...
     
    I can't believe it. 
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM, potatv <potatv@...> wrote:

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    Group: pota Message: 45821 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
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    Jessica,

    Thanks for sharing! I think it's awesome! How come we didn't know
    about this before???

    Helen

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > This is definitely bile-inducing...
    >
    > I can't believe it.
    >
    > Jessica.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45822 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
    .html
    That was hysterical! I went to the movies with those boys on
    Saturday! I would recognize them anywhere with their high tech toys
    and bluetooth technology! Definitely.

    Helen




    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
    >
    >
    > The episode is online at the CBS website:
    >
    http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_bang_theory/video/video.php?cid=5016540\
    > 14&pid=UY1elstTJYUXgpQYTDdKaocJpQ3oPYB0&play=true&cc=0
    >
    <http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_bang_theory/video/video.php?cid=501654\
    > 014&pid=UY1elstTJYUXgpQYTDdKaocJpQ3oPYB0&play=true&cc=0>
    >
    >
    > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Giwner <bikergator25@> wrote:
    > >
    > > Im going to look for that on you tube..
    > > DAve.
    > >
    > > James JamesA1102@ wrote:
    > > Tonight on the sitcom 'The Big Bang Theory' several of the characters
    > go to a Planet of the Apes marathon. When they get to the theater
    > everyone is wearing Ape masks. The big one-liner was, "Get your stinking
    > paws off my popcorn you damn dirty ape".
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ---------------------------------
    > > No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. Sweet deal for
    > Yahoo! users and friends.
    > >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45823 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
    .html
    Indeed!

    Certainly a spirited bunch, weren't they? I wouldn't be caught dead
    doing that!

    Helen



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
    >
    > now that was just silly.....do they really think
    > people would go to see Planet of the APes dressed in
    > ape masks?? I mean really....who does that?
    >
    > ;)
    >
    > Tim
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45824 From: ape_mom Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    .html
    Bruce,

    I'm glad I'm not the only one watching his back! That is exactly what
    I saw. Thank you.

    Helen





    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
    >
    > Helen I noticed that, too, but didn't want to be the first to mention
    > it...being a guy and all. Leaving the soggy ship Taylor had boxers
    on but shortly
    > thereafter he was wearing briefs.
    >
    > Bruce
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45825 From: drhasslein Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    .html
    I meant other than the obvious... It was already posted that Take
    your stinking paws and its a madhouse drew applause.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > The biggest response is usually, "Take your stinking paws off
    me...". That usually gets applause.
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: drhasslein
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:05 PM
    > Subject: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    >
    >
    > Was there a big reaction when Cornelius says they won't need
    weapons -
    > and Heston responds- "I'm glad to hear it. I want one anyway!"
    > That usually gets the biggest response in the screenings I've
    seen
    > here, obviously because of Chuck & the NRA.
    >
    > That line and when Dodge and Landon are nude, kneeling to see the
    > human footprint, and Taylor is slow to kneel with them. Those two
    > bits got the biggest response, in 68 I doubt the crowd reactions
    were
    > the same....
    >
    > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@> wrote:
    > >
    > > "David Giwner" <bikergator25@> wrote:
    > >
    > > "I was with James today. I stayed for the 8pm showing as well
    as
    > the 5pm.
    > > The crowd was a little more livelier for the 8pm. I thought the
    > audio was
    > > great and the print was pretty good.
    > > We watched the 5pm in the back. For the 8pm we sat closer to the
    > > screen... You could see the sweat beating off Heston....
    > > Seeing the movie on the big screen was great. I noticed things
    I
    > have not
    > > seen before.... "
    > >
    > >
    > > I was going to mention the same thing Dave. The 8PM crowd was
    > definitely
    > > little more enthusiastic than the 5PM one. Both "Get your
    stinking
    > paws
    > > off me..." and "It's a madhouse!!" drew rounds of applause, as
    did
    > the
    > > 20th Century Fox logo at the beginning. And it really is cool
    how
    > you see
    > > so much more of the set design and art direction on the big
    screen.
    > Like
    > > we both mentioned last night, I never realized that there was a
    > water
    > > fountain in the infirmary, or drainage paths set in the floor.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45826 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
    .html
    .html
    I think I know which one you mean...he looks REALLY ANGRY or CRAZY  not like he's acting! His eyes are wide open. Ever since I noticed him in the 1st DVD release that's all I see when I watch that fruit-throwing scene lol.
    Bruce
     
    In a message dated 4/1/2008 12:45:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:
    There's a chimp with better makeup (not the very horrible pull-over masks) that shows up in many of the movies.  I don't know who acted him, but really bad facial movements from him shows up right after Heston's famous line, "Take your stinking paws off me..." in the 1968 movie. This chimp is in the lower left hand corner of the screen, and was among the chimps that were throwing rocks/food at Heston.  He's got a really bad tick on his face...now THAT is bad facial ticking...
     
     
    Jessica.




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    Group: pota Message: 45827 From: Meg Griffin Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
    .html
    .html
    WAY TO GO JAMES!!!  FANTASTIC APRIL FOOL!!


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2008 11:45:12 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Has anyone else seen this?

    This is definitely bile-inducing. ..
     
    I can't believe it. 
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM, potatv <potatv@yahoo. com> wrote:




    You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.<.html
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    Group: pota Message: 45828 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
    .html
    There is a God, after all!  I have been had...I was just so very upset that I couldn't read the article to completion....Thank you...
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:35 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

    Jessica,

    Thanks for sharing! I think it's awesome! How come we didn't know
    about this before???

    Helen



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > This is definitely bile-inducing...
    >
    > I can't believe it.
    >
    > Jessica.
    >


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    Group: pota Message: 45829 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
    .html
    It does mention John from POTA yahoo at the end saying that this is a April Fools joke- which I am praying it is....

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:45 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

    This is definitely bile-inducing...
     
    I can't believe it. 
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM, potatv <potatv@...> wrote:




    --
    Bill Hollweg
    Have Sword...
    Will Slay...
    Barbarian in need of Ale...
    Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
    Bill Hollweg
    Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
    www.brokensea.net
    The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
    http://www.brokensea.com and
    http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
    Planet of the Apes at
    http://www.brokensea.com and
    Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
    http://www.brokensea.com and
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    Group: pota Message: 45830 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
    .html
    .html
    And I was wrong Dave, I've never seen that photo before...
     
    Bruce
     
    In a message dated 4/1/2008 12:09:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bikergator25@... writes:
    THats the photo I was telling you about on Saturday from the NY POST..
    DAVE NYC...





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    Group: pota Message: 45831 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    .html
    When I saw this on the big screen 15 years ago, the outline of his briefs clearly delineated through the ANSA outfit as they walked out in the Forbidden Zone definitely elicited a few giggles from the gals in the crowd.
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

    Bruce,

    I'm glad I'm not the only one watching his back! That is exactly what
    I saw. Thank you.

    Helen



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
    >
    > Helen I noticed that, too, but didn't want to be the first to mention
    > it...being a guy and all. Leaving the soggy ship Taylor had boxers
    on but shortly
    > thereafter he was wearing briefs.
    >
    > Bruce
    >


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    Group: pota Message: 45832 From: David Giwner Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
    .html
    James is right. This is an April Fools joke.....   If  Fox was going to do this they hopefully would do it the right way.....
    Some may say Burtons "reimaging" was an April Fools joke....  Just a couple of months late....
    DAVE NYC......

    potatv <potatv@...> wrote:


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    Group: pota Message: 45833 From: John Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
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    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Had me upset for a second.



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "potatv" <potatv@...> wrote:
    >
    >
    > Are they crazy?
    >
    > http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/movie_biz/index.html"
    >
    > <http://tinyurl.com/248ho8>
    > <http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/movie_biz/index.html">
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45834 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
    .html
    Like the one I heard about the sequel to Titanic today. The reporter said look at the date.
    saying that Leonardo DiCaprio has already signed up for the sequel. It's a trick..it's an April fools
    trick.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 2:24 pm
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Has anyone else seen this?

    There is a God, after all!  I have been had...I was just so very upset that I couldn't read the article to completion.. ..Thank you...
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:35 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@ yahoo.com> wrote:
    Jessica,

    Thanks for sharing! I think it's awesome! How come we didn't know
    about this before???

    Helen


    --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
    >
    > This is definitely bile-inducing. ..
    >
    > I can't believe it.
    >
    > Jessica.
    >


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    Group: pota Message: 45835 From: James Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
    .html

    Not John, James. In other words me. Gotcha!


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hollweg" <billhollweg@...> wrote:
    >
    > It does mention John from POTA yahoo at the end saying that this is a April
    > Fools joke- which I am praying it is....
    >
    > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:45 AM, jessica rotich jessicarotich@...
    > wrote:
    >
    > > This is definitely bile-inducing...
    > >
    > > I can't believe it.
    > >
    > > Jessica.
    > >
    > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM, potatv potatv@... wrote:
    > >
    > > > Are they crazy?
    > > >
    > > > http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/movie_biz/index.htmlbr>> > >
    > > > <http://tinyurl.com/248ho8> <http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/movie_biz/index.htmlgt;
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Bill Hollweg
    > Have Sword...
    > Will Slay...
    > Barbarian in need of Ale...
    > Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
    > Bill Hollweg
    > Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
    > www.brokensea.net
    > The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
    > http://www.brokensea.com and
    > http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
    > Planet of the Apes at
    > http://www.brokensea.com and
    > Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
    > http://www.brokensea.com and
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 45836 From: m c Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
    .html
    Jeff <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
    I agree with you. I don't think they should have used the quotes from the original movie ("stinking paws"/"damn them all to hell", etc.). If it had been named differently, and not tried to "connect" with the original, I feel it would have been better accepted as a film on it's own merit.
     
    *** I agree with you here. Had they kept the filming name of "The Visitor" and gave a nod to the Boulle by saying something along the lines of "based on a concept by Pierre Boulle" or something like thta rather than setting there marketing it straight forward as an APES film, it may have had better acceptance as you said. BUT, cheap name recogonition is what they went for, conning the public by using the title and as I mentioned, trying to add credibility to it by getting Heston and Harrison to appear. (As well as acting "sly" getting some of the paraphrased original dialog in there to say, "See, we;re fans. We're giving a nod to the original", which of course was bullsh*t.) ***
     
     
    They were originally going to do a true remake, with Governor Ahhnold as Taylor.
     
    *** Where or when did you hear this? Any time I've ever heard of Schwazenegger being connected to it, it was called RETURN OF THE APES or something like that and in that one, I believe Oliver Stone was going to direct it. If i remember correctly, the plot involved babies being born dead in "our time" so to speak, so thay actually were going to go back in time to try to see what is causing this now and they were to find the ape dominated world.


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    Group: pota Message: 45837 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: The Big Bang Theory goes Ape!
    .html
    :)
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:14 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

    Indeed!

    Certainly a spirited bunch, weren't they? I wouldn't be caught dead
    doing that!

    Helen



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
    >
    > now that was just silly.....do they really think
    > people would go to see Planet of the APes dressed in
    > ape masks?? I mean really....who does that?
    >
    > ;)
    >
    > Tim
    >


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    Group: pota Message: 45838 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
    .html
    It an April Fools joke. It's going to get some people riled up.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Meg Griffin <splotchypigg@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 1:15 pm
    Subject: Re: [pota] Has anyone else seen this?

    WAY TO GO JAMES!!!  FANTASTIC APRIL FOOL!!


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2008 11:45:12 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Has anyone else seen this?

    This is definitely bile-inducing. ..
     
    I can't believe it. 
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM, potatv <potatv@yahoo. com> wrote:




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    Group: pota Message: 45839 From: m c Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
    .html
    *** I just want to make sure that you know I didn't say he over-acted... All I said he was guilty of was too much facial movement... Too much nose twitching at times.  But, then again, on the TV series, after re-evaluation, I'd say that Ron Stein actually does it as much, if not more than Roddy, and in an irritating way. ***

    shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:
    In my opinion, Roddy McDowall was never guilty of over acting,
    certainly not in his Apes roles.I find the suggestion
    astonishing.Roddy McDowall gave a series of nuanced and well judged
    performances that , in turn, gave us a series of characters that
    still resonate today.How Kim Hunter's performance in ,say, Escape,
    can be used as a contrast to Roddy's 'over acting' frankly beggars
    belief. John, Scrolls.
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 3/30/08 7:14:41 PM, aboro3085@... writes:
    >
    >
    > > sufficed. Watch the other apes, none of them do it as obviously
    as Mc
    > > Dowall. I prefer their more subtle approach(es)s
    > >
    >
    > Thank you!
    > That's the difference between Hunter & McDowell.
    > Acting vs Overacting.
    >
    >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45840 From: Jeff Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Linda Harrison
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    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:
    >
    I never heard anything about the storyline, only that Ahhhhnold was
    supposed to play Taylor, and Oliver Stone was being considered to
    direct. I read that it was going to be an updated remake, but
    sticking to the original story. I never read anything about any
    alternate storylines. Just Hollywood rumors, like the
    supposed "Hogan's Heroes" and "A-Team" movies, both with Mel Gibson
    supposedly in the lead roles.

    Jeff (RedSpy)


    >
    > Jeff <RedSpy13@...> wrote: I agree with you. I don't think they
    should have used the quotes from the original movie ("stinking
    paws"/"damn them all to hell", etc.). If it had been named
    differently, and not tried to "connect" with the original, I feel it
    would have been better accepted as a film on it's own merit.
    >
    > *** I agree with you here. Had they kept the filming name of "The
    Visitor" and gave a nod to the Boulle by saying something along the
    lines of "based on a concept by Pierre Boulle" or something like thta
    rather than setting there marketing it straight forward as an APES
    film, it may have had better acceptance as you said. BUT, cheap name
    recogonition is what they went for, conning the public by using the
    title and as I mentioned, trying to add credibility to it by getting
    Heston and Harrison to appear. (As well as acting "sly" getting some
    of the paraphrased original dialog in there to say, "See, we;re fans.
    We're giving a nod to the original", which of course was bullsh*t.)
    ***
    >
    >
    > They were originally going to do a true remake, with Governor
    Ahhnold as Taylor.
    >
    > *** Where or when did you hear this? Any time I've ever heard of
    Schwazenegger being connected to it, it was called RETURN OF THE APES
    or something like that and in that one, I believe Oliver Stone was
    going to direct it. If i remember correctly, the plot involved babies
    being born dead in "our time" so to speak, so thay actually were
    going to go back in time to try to see what is causing this now and
    they were to find the ape dominated world.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45841 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
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    In a message dated 4/1/08 11:45:40 AM, jessicarotich@... writes:


    This chimp is in the lower left hand corner of the screen, and was among the chimps that were throwing rocks/food at Heston.


    What about the Chimpette that just half/assed chucks the fruit at Chuck.  It must have been after about a dozen takes.  To say she throws like a girl would be a compliment.  Three year olds throw better.



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    Group: pota Message: 45842 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/1/2008
    Subject: Re: Ape face movement(s)
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    My eyes always seem to catch that chimpette with the bad pull-over mask and the super wimpy throw.   I know exactly who you are talking about!!!
     
    Jessica.

     
    On 4/1/08, LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> wrote:


    In a message dated 4/1/08 11:45:40 AM, jessicarotich@... writes:


    This chimp is in the lower left hand corner of the screen, and was among the chimps that were throwing rocks/food at Heston. 


    What about the Chimpette that just half/assed chucks the fruit at Chuck.  It must have been after about a dozen takes.  To say she throws like a girl would be a compliment.  Three year olds throw better.



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    Group: pota Message: 45843 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
    .html
    James, Glad you told me to read through the article again.  I was just so upset I couldn't finish reading it...
     
    Hee hee...
     
    Jessica.
     
    On 4/1/08, PofTAfan@... <PofTAfan@...> wrote:

    It an April Fools joke. It's going to get some people riled up.
     

     

     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Meg Griffin <splotchypigg@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 1:15 pm
    Subject: Re: [pota] Has anyone else seen this?

    WAY TO GO JAMES!!!  FANTASTIC APRIL FOOL!!


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2008 11:45:12 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Has anyone else seen this?

    This is definitely bile-inducing. ..
     
    I can't believe it. 
     
    Jessica.

     
    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM, potatv <potatv@yahoo. com> wrote:

     

     


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    Group: pota Message: 45844 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    .html
    I never noticed it before the screening last week...I don't spend much time looking at Heston's butt lol.

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 6:15 pm
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

    When I saw this on the big screen 15 years ago, the outline of his briefs clearly delineated through the ANSA outfit as they walked out in the Forbidden Zone definitely elicited a few giggles from the gals in the crowd.
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@ yahoo.com> wrote:
    Bruce,

    I'm glad I'm not the only one watching his back! That is exactly what
    I saw. Thank you.

    Helen


    --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
    >
    > Helen I noticed that, too, but didn't want to be the first to mention
    > it...being a guy and all. Leaving the soggy ship Taylor had boxers
    on but shortly
    > thereafter he was wearing briefs.
    >
    > Bruce
    >


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    Group: pota Message: 45845 From: Bobby Smyth Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
    .html
    Yeah it got me too first time i read it Jess,so you weren't the only
    one caught out ....James..brilliant piece of work..ya bandit ye
    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...>
    wrote:
    >
    > James, Glad you told me to read through the article again. I was
    just so
    > upset I couldn't finish reading it...
    >
    > Hee hee...
    >
    > Jessica.
    >
    > On 4/1/08, PofTAfan@... <PofTAfan@...> wrote:
    > >
    > > It an April Fools joke. It's going to get some people riled
    up.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Meg Griffin <splotchypigg@...>
    > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > > Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 1:15 pm
    > > Subject: Re: [pota] Has anyone else seen this?
    > >
    > > WAY TO GO JAMES!!! FANTASTIC APRIL FOOL!!
    > >
    > > ----- Original Message ----
    > > From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > > Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2008 11:45:12 AM
    > > Subject: Re: [pota] Has anyone else seen this?
    > >
    > > This is definitely bile-inducing. ..
    > >
    > > I can't believe it.
    > >
    > > Jessica.
    > >
    > >
    > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM, potatv <potatv@yahoo.
    com<potatv@...>>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > > Are they crazy?
    > > > http://hollywoodins ider.ew.com/ movie_biz/ index.htmlbr> > > > <http://tinyurl.com/248ho8>
    <http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/movie_biz/index.htmlgt;
    > > >
    > >
    > >
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    > >
    > >
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    Group: pota Message: 45846 From: GDJ1231@aol.com Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    .html
    .html
    Look in Heston's bios, I forgot which one, he has something interesting to say about the filming of those butt shots.
     
    Gary
     
    In a message dated 4/2/2008 5:33:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@... writes:

    I never noticed it before the screening last week...I don't spend much time looking at Heston's butt lol.

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 6:15 pm
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

    When I saw this on the big screen 15 years ago, the outline of his briefs clearly delineated through the ANSA outfit as they walked out in the Forbidden Zone definitely elicited a few giggles from the gals in the crowd.
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@ yahoo.com> wrote:
    Bruce,

    I'm glad I'm not the only one watching his back! That is exactly what
    I saw. Thank you.

    Helen


    --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
    >
    > Helen I noticed that, too, but didn't want to be the first to mention
    > it...being a guy and all. Leaving the soggy ship Taylor had boxers
    on but shortly
    > thereafter he was wearing briefs.
    >
    > Bruce
    >






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    Group: pota Message: 45847 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    .html
    hehehehe... I do believe, Gary, that you are more knowledgeable than
    you let on. :@)


    Helen





    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, GDJ1231@... wrote:
    >
    > Look in Heston's bios, I forgot which one, he has something
    interesting to
    > say about the filming of those butt shots.
    >
    > Gary
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45848 From: James Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    .html

    There are certain line like those that can be expected to get a response. What I found interesting was some of the other lines that the audience responded to such Taylor saying, "She was to be the new Eve, with our hot and eager help of course", or Lucius saying, "What did you expect, an Ape's new suit".


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
    >
    > I meant other than the obvious... It was already posted that Take
    > your stinking paws and its a madhouse drew applause.
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 45849 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    .html
    You know, that is the one line that I would remove from the script.
    It actually doesn't make any sense.

    Helen




    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
    >
    >
    > ...such Taylor saying, "She was to be the new Eve,
    > with our hot and eager help of course"...
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    Group: pota Message: 45850 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    .html
    I always loved Lucius, but even more so after watching him this
    weekend. I love that line.

    Helen


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
    Lucius saying, "What did you
    > expect, an Ape's new suit".
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45851 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
    .html
    This is Zira's Escape costume for a Sideshow doll.  I still need to hem the skirt, and perhaps add a lining inside the skirt just to make it extra special.
     
    After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot pink frogs.
     
    Wish me luck.
     
    Jessica.
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    Group: pota Message: 45852 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
    .html
    That is excellent, Jessica. It's perfect. Very nice job!

    Helen


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > This is Zira's Escape costume for a Sideshow doll. I still need to
    hem the
    > skirt, and perhaps add a lining inside the skirt just to make it extra
    > special.
    >
    > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot pink frogs.
    >
    > Wish me luck.
    >
    > Jessica.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45853 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
    .html
    Oh, Jessica..



    Good luck on the jacket! I can't wait to see it!

    Helen


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >

    > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot pink frogs.
    >
    > Wish me luck.
    >
    > Jessica.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45854 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
    .html
    Thanks, Helen.  Hopefully by the time I have saved up enough to buy my appliance, I should be ready to make my own chimp suit...
     
    Jessica.

    On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

    Oh, Jessica..

    Good luck on the jacket! I can't wait to see it!



    Helen

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >

    > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot pink frogs.
    >
    > Wish me luck.
    >
    > Jessica.
    >


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    Group: pota Message: 45855 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
    .html
    Jessica,

    Good luck on all of it! You are obviously good at it. I would want
    to see a real Zira costume before building another one myself. And...
    I would want to make it with the right materials. Have you been
    privileged yet to see a production costume? One day I'm going to go
    check out Billy's stuff. It would at least give me an idea.

    I'd wear one like you just made for the doll! Did you buy lots of
    extra fabric? ;)

    Helen




    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > Thanks, Helen. Hopefully by the time I have saved up enough to buy my
    > appliance, I should be ready to make my own chimp suit...
    >
    > Jessica.
    >
    > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
    >
    > > Oh, Jessica..
    > >
    > > Good luck on the jacket! I can't wait to see it!
    > >
    > > Helen
    > >
    > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"
    > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > > >
    > >
    > > > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot pink frogs.
    > > >
    > > > Wish me luck.
    > > >
    > > > Jessica.
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 45856 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
    .html
    He spoke about it in the BEHIND THE PLANET OF THE APES special-how the doughnut girl commented he had "nice buns!" 
    OK can I stop talking about men's behinds now? Please?

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: GDJ1231@...
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 7:31 am
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

    Look in Heston's bios, I forgot which one, he has something interesting to say about the filming of those butt shots.
     
    Gary
     
    In a message dated 4/2/2008 5:33:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:
    I never noticed it before the screening last week...I don't spend much time looking at Heston's butt lol.

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 6:15 pm
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

    When I saw this on the big screen 15 years ago, the outline of his briefs clearly delineated through the ANSA outfit as they walked out in the Forbidden Zone definitely elicited a few giggles from the gals in the crowd.
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@ yahoo.com> wrote:
    Bruce,

    I'm glad I'm not the only one watching his back! That is exactly what
    I saw. Thank you.

    Helen


    --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
    >
    > Helen I noticed that, too, but didn't want to be the first to mention
    > it...being a guy and all. Leaving the soggy ship Taylor had boxers
    on but shortly
    > thereafter he was wearing briefs.
    >
    > Bruce
    >






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    Group: pota Message: 45857 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
    .html
    Helen,
     
    Thanks for the well wishes.  I have not had the privilege of viewing an actual costume with my own eyes... I tried to contact somebody in SF that may still have the costumes, but he never replied to my e-mails.  Gosh--to be in the same room with an actual costume--that's another wish to yearn for!!
    I only purchased 1/4 of a yard of the fabrics because it was only for my Mego Zira.  This costume for the Sideshow is just the leftovers of that old project. 
    Your outfit came out very well I think!  I am always on the lookout for that perfect chimp green in preparation for the outfit I will make myself someday.
     
    Jessica.
     
    On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

    Jessica,

    Good luck on all of it! You are obviously good at it. I would want
    to see a real Zira costume before building another one myself. And...
    I would want to make it with the right materials. Have you been
    privileged yet to see a production costume? One day I'm going to go
    check out Billy's stuff. It would at least give me an idea.

    I'd wear one like you just made for the doll! Did you buy lots of
    extra fabric? ;)



    Helen

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > Thanks, Helen. Hopefully by the time I have saved up enough to buy my
    > appliance, I should be ready to make my own chimp suit...
    >
    > Jessica.
    >
    > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
    >
    > > Oh, Jessica..
    > >
    > > Good luck on the jacket! I can't wait to see it!
    > >
    > > Helen
    > >
    > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"

    > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > > >
    > >
    > > > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot pink frogs.
    > > >
    > > > Wish me luck.
    > > >
    > > > Jessica.
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >


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    Group: pota Message: 45858 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
    .html
    Helen,
     
    Please let me know what type of fabric they use on the chimp suits if you do ever go to Billy's basement.  I am thinking they used some kind of lightweight wool, but I have never seen it in person.  That's what surmise from what I have seen in photographs. 
     
    Does anybody here know what type of fabric they used for the chimp suits?
     
    Jessica.

    On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    Helen,
     
    Thanks for the well wishes.  I have not had the privilege of viewing an actual costume with my own eyes... I tried to contact somebody in SF that may still have the costumes, but he never replied to my e-mails.  Gosh--to be in the same room with an actual costume--that's another wish to yearn for!!
    I only purchased 1/4 of a yard of the fabrics because it was only for my Mego Zira.  This costume for the Sideshow is just the leftovers of that old project. 
    Your outfit came out very well I think!  I am always on the lookout for that perfect chimp green in preparation for the outfit I will make myself someday.
     
    Jessica.
     
    On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

    Jessica,

    Good luck on all of it! You are obviously good at it. I would want
    to see a real Zira costume before building another one myself. And...
    I would want to make it with the right materials. Have you been
    privileged yet to see a production costume? One day I'm going to go
    check out Billy's stuff. It would at least give me an idea.

    I'd wear one like you just made for the doll! Did you buy lots of
    extra fabric? ;)



    Helen

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > Thanks, Helen. Hopefully by the time I have saved up enough to buy my
    > appliance, I should be ready to make my own chimp suit...
    >
    > Jessica.
    >
    > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
    >
    > > Oh, Jessica..
    > >
    > > Good luck on the jacket! I can't wait to see it!
    > >
    > > Helen
    > >
    > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"

    > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > > >
    > >
    > > > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot pink frogs.
    > > >
    > > > Wish me luck.
    > > >
    > > > Jessica.
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >



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    Group: pota Message: 45859 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: ...Work in Progress (Billy?)
    .html
    Jessica,

    It looks like wool to me, too. I'm hoping that Billy will tell us
    when he reads this.

    Billy?

    It think the gorilla and orangutan suits were duck. (That's what we
    used for ours, anyway, and they looked OK.) I'll try to find some
    pictures and post them for you.



    Helen


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > Helen,
    >
    > Please let me know what type of fabric they use on the chimp suits
    if you do
    > ever go to Billy's basement. I am thinking they used some kind of
    > lightweight wool, but I have never seen it in person. That's what
    surmise
    > from what I have seen in photographs.
    >
    > Does anybody here know what type of fabric they used for the chimp
    suits?
    >
    > Jessica.
    >
    > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > Helen,
    > >
    > > Thanks for the well wishes. I have not had the privilege of
    viewing an
    > > actual costume with my own eyes... I tried to contact somebody in
    SF that
    > > may still have the costumes, but he never replied to my e-mails.
    Gosh--to
    > > be in the same room with an actual costume--that's another wish to
    yearn
    > > for!!
    > > I only purchased 1/4 of a yard of the fabrics because it was only
    for my
    > > Mego Zira. This costume for the Sideshow is just the leftovers of
    that old
    > > project.
    > > Your outfit came out very well I think! I am always on the
    lookout for
    > > that perfect chimp green in preparation for the outfit I will make
    myself
    > > someday.
    > >
    > > Jessica.
    > >
    > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > > > Jessica,
    > > >
    > > > Good luck on all of it! You are obviously good at it. I would want
    > > > to see a real Zira costume before building another one myself.
    And...
    > > > I would want to make it with the right materials. Have you been
    > > > privileged yet to see a production costume? One day I'm going to go
    > > > check out Billy's stuff. It would at least give me an idea.
    > > >
    > > > I'd wear one like you just made for the doll! Did you buy lots of
    > > > extra fabric? ;)
    > > >
    > > > Helen
    > > >
    > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica
    rotich"
    > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks, Helen. Hopefully by the time I have saved up enough to
    buy my
    > > > > appliance, I should be ready to make my own chimp suit...
    > > > >
    > > > > Jessica.
    > > > >
    > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@>
    wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Oh, Jessica..
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Good luck on the jacket! I can't wait to see it!
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Helen
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
    > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"
    > > > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot
    pink frogs.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Wish me luck.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Jessica.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    <.html
    Group: pota Message: 45860 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
    Subject: Re: ...Work in Progress (Billy?)
    .html
    Attachments :
      Helen, I kept this PDF as a reference when they sold a background gorilla suit on ebay.  I thought it was cool that the gorilla shirts had chest pockets with buttons for a total of 4 pockets in the front...and that it had a Mandarin collar, too.  Let me know if you are unable to open the PDF and I may save it down to a jpeg.
       
      Jessica.

      On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:18 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

      Jessica,

      It looks like wool to me, too. I'm hoping that Billy will tell us
      when he reads this.

      Billy?

      It think the gorilla and orangutan suits were duck. (That's what we
      used for ours, anyway, and they looked OK.) I'll try to find some
      pictures and post them for you.

      Helen

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
      >
      > Helen,
      >
      > Please let me know what type of fabric they use on the chimp suits
      if you do
      > ever go to Billy's basement. I am thinking they used some kind of
      > lightweight wool, but I have never seen it in person. That's what
      surmise
      > from what I have seen in photographs.
      >
      > Does anybody here know what type of fabric they used for the chimp
      suits?
      >
      > Jessica.
      >
      > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
      > wrote:
      >
      > > Helen,
      > >
      > > Thanks for the well wishes. I have not had the privilege of
      viewing an
      > > actual costume with my own eyes... I tried to contact somebody in
      SF that
      > > may still have the costumes, but he never replied to my e-mails.
      Gosh--to
      > > be in the same room with an actual costume--that's another wish to
      yearn
      > > for!!
      > > I only purchased 1/4 of a yard of the fabrics because it was only
      for my
      > > Mego Zira. This costume for the Sideshow is just the leftovers of
      that old
      > > project.
      > > Your outfit came out very well I think! I am always on the
      lookout for
      > > that perfect chimp green in preparation for the outfit I will make
      myself
      > > someday.
      > >
      > > Jessica.
      > >
      > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...>
      > > wrote:
      > >
      > > > Jessica,
      > > >
      > > > Good luck on all of it! You are obviously good at it. I would want
      > > > to see a real Zira costume before building another one myself.
      And...
      > > > I would want to make it with the right materials. Have you been
      > > > privileged yet to see a production costume? One day I'm going to go
      > > > check out Billy's stuff. It would at least give me an idea.
      > > >
      > > > I'd wear one like you just made for the doll! Did you buy lots of
      > > > extra fabric? ;)
      > > >
      > > > Helen
      > > >
      > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica
      rotich"
      > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Thanks, Helen. Hopefully by the time I have saved up enough to
      buy my
      > > > > appliance, I should be ready to make my own chimp suit...
      > > > >
      > > > > Jessica.
      > > > >
      > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@>
      wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > > Oh, Jessica..
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Good luck on the jacket! I can't wait to see it!
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Helen
      > > > > >
      > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
      > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"
      > > > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot
      pink frogs.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Wish me luck.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Jessica.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      >


      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 45861 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
      Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
      .html
      Jessica,

      I have uploaded some pictures of the costumes we made, along with the
      masks that we made with faces from Apemania. (Thanks, Bri.)

      One day maybe I'll post the masks that we made BEFORE Brian came to
      our rescue. Very interesting!

      Nothing professional here, but remember that it was the kids who
      actually did a good share of the stitching and design! Even the
      little gorilla used the sewing machine to put together his costume.
      (I adjusted the difficulty of the costume for the person who was
      putting it together.) Rachel made the little chimp costume. Amanda
      made DeeDee's orangutan, as she was originally going to play the part.

      Enjoy.

      Helen


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
      >
      > Helen,
      >
      > Thanks for the well wishes. I have not had the privilege of viewing an
      > actual costume with my own eyes... I tried to contact somebody in SF
      that
      > may still have the costumes, but he never replied to my e-mails.
      Gosh--to
      > be in the same room with an actual costume--that's another wish to yearn
      > for!!
      > I only purchased 1/4 of a yard of the fabrics because it was only for my
      > Mego Zira. This costume for the Sideshow is just the leftovers of
      that old
      > project.
      > Your outfit came out very well I think! I am always on the lookout
      for that
      > perfect chimp green in preparation for the outfit I will make myself
      > someday.
      >
      > Jessica.
      >
      >
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 45862 From: Karyl Miller Date: 4/2/2008
      Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
      .html
      .html

      Fine, fine, ya big baby.

       

      I wish I had gone to the Ziegfeld, but I had to work that day!

       

      WAAAAHHHH!!!

       

      All right, I'll stop now.


       
      Karyl Miller


      ----- Original Message ----
      From: "stenosaurus@..." <stenosaurus@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 4:08:16 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

      He spoke about it in the BEHIND THE PLANET OF THE APES special-how the doughnut girl commented he had "nice buns!" 
      OK can I stop talking about men's behinds now? Please?

      Bruce


      -----Original Message-----
      From: GDJ1231@aol. com
      To: pota@yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 7:31 am
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

      Look in Heston's bios, I forgot which one, he has something interesting to say about the filming of those butt shots.
       
      Gary
       
      In a message dated 4/2/2008 5:33:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:
      I never noticed it before the screening last week...I don't spend much time looking at Heston's butt lol.

      Bruce


      -----Original Message-----
      From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
      To: pota@yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 6:15 pm
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

      When I saw this on the big screen 15 years ago, the outline of his briefs clearly delineated through the ANSA outfit as they walked out in the Forbidden Zone definitely elicited a few giggles from the gals in the crowd.
       
      Jessica.

      On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      Bruce,

      I'm glad I'm not the only one watching his back! That is exactly what
      I saw. Thank you.

      Helen


      --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
      >
      > Helen I noticed that, too, but didn't want to be the first to mention
      > it...being a guy and all. Leaving the soggy ship Taylor had boxers
      on but shortly
      > thereafter he was wearing briefs.
      >
      > Bruce
      >





      Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home.



      You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.<.html
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 45863 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
      Subject: Re: ...Work in Progress (Billy?)
      .html
      Sorry, Jessica. I can't open the .jpg.

      Helen




      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
      >
      > Helen, I kept this PDF as a reference when they sold a background
      gorilla
      > suit on ebay. I thought it was cool that the gorilla shirts had chest
      > pockets with buttons for a total of 4 pockets in the front...and
      that it had
      > a Mandarin collar, too. Let me know if you are unable to open the
      PDF and I
      > may save it down to a jpeg.
      >
      > Jessica.
      >
      > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:18 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
      >
      > > Jessica,
      > >
      > > It looks like wool to me, too. I'm hoping that Billy will tell us
      > > when he reads this.
      > >
      > > Billy?
      > >
      > > It think the gorilla and orangutan suits were duck. (That's what we
      > > used for ours, anyway, and they looked OK.) I'll try to find some
      > > pictures and post them for you.
      > >
      > > Helen
      > >
      > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"
      > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Helen,
      > > >
      > > > Please let me know what type of fabric they use on the chimp suits
      > > if you do
      > > > ever go to Billy's basement. I am thinking they used some kind of
      > > > lightweight wool, but I have never seen it in person. That's what
      > > surmise
      > > > from what I have seen in photographs.
      > > >
      > > > Does anybody here know what type of fabric they used for the chimp
      > > suits?
      > > >
      > > > Jessica.
      > > >
      > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@>
      > > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > Helen,
      > > > >
      > > > > Thanks for the well wishes. I have not had the privilege of
      > > viewing an
      > > > > actual costume with my own eyes... I tried to contact somebody in
      > > SF that
      > > > > may still have the costumes, but he never replied to my e-mails.
      > > Gosh--to
      > > > > be in the same room with an actual costume--that's another wish to
      > > yearn
      > > > > for!!
      > > > > I only purchased 1/4 of a yard of the fabrics because it was only
      > > for my
      > > > > Mego Zira. This costume for the Sideshow is just the leftovers of
      > > that old
      > > > > project.
      > > > > Your outfit came out very well I think! I am always on the
      > > lookout for
      > > > > that perfect chimp green in preparation for the outfit I will make
      > > myself
      > > > > someday.
      > > > >
      > > > > Jessica.
      > > > >
      > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@>
      > > > > wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > > Jessica,
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Good luck on all of it! You are obviously good at it. I
      would want
      > > > > > to see a real Zira costume before building another one myself.
      > > And...
      > > > > > I would want to make it with the right materials. Have you been
      > > > > > privileged yet to see a production costume? One day I'm
      going to go
      > > > > > check out Billy's stuff. It would at least give me an idea.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > I'd wear one like you just made for the doll! Did you buy
      lots of
      > > > > > extra fabric? ;)
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Helen
      > > > > >
      > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
      > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica
      > > rotich"
      > > > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Thanks, Helen. Hopefully by the time I have saved up enough to
      > > buy my
      > > > > > > appliance, I should be ready to make my own chimp suit...
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > Jessica.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@>
      > > wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Oh, Jessica..
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Good luck on the jacket! I can't wait to see it!
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Helen
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
      > > 40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
      > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"
      > > > > > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot
      > > pink frogs.
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > Wish me luck.
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > Jessica.
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 45864 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2008
      Subject: New file uploaded to pota
      .html
      Hello,

      This email message is a notification to let you know that
      a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
      group.

      File : /Planet-of-the-Apes-Screen-Worn-Gorilla-Sold.pdf
      Uploaded by : jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
      Description : Thanks Jessica!

      You can access this file at the URL:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Planet-of-the-Apes-Screen-Worn-Gorilla-Sold.pdf

      To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
      http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmliles

      Regards,

      jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 45865 From: juswannaknit Date: 4/2/2008
      Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
      .html
      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
      >
      > Jessica,
      >
      > I have uploaded some pictures of the costumes we made, along with
      the
      > masks that we made with faces from Apemania. (Thanks, Bri.)
      >
      > One day maybe I'll post the masks that we made BEFORE Brian came to
      > our rescue. Very interesting!
      >
      > Nothing professional here, but remember that it was the kids who
      > actually did a good share of the stitching and design! Even the
      > little gorilla used the sewing machine to put together his costume.
      > (I adjusted the difficulty of the costume for the person who was
      > putting it together.) Rachel made the little chimp costume. Amanda
      > made DeeDee's orangutan, as she was originally going to play the
      part.
      >
      > Enjoy.
      >
      > Helen
      >
      >
      > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@>
      wrote:
      > >
      > > Helen,
      > >
      > > Thanks for the well wishes. I have not had the privilege of
      viewing an
      > > actual costume with my own eyes... I tried to contact somebody in
      SF
      > that
      > > may still have the costumes, but he never replied to my e-mails.
      > Gosh--to
      > > be in the same room with an actual costume--that's another wish
      to yearn
      > > for!!
      > > I only purchased 1/4 of a yard of the fabrics because it was only
      for my
      > > Mego Zira. This costume for the Sideshow is just the leftovers of
      > that old
      > > project.
      > > Your outfit came out very well I think! I am always on the
      lookout
      > for that
      > > perfect chimp green in preparation for the outfit I will make
      myself
      > > someday.
      > >
      > > Jessica.
      > >
      > >
      >
      Helen,

      Thank you for sharing the photos. Little Tiffany is the most
      precious thing! It's awesome that you had the kids make the
      costumes. The orangutans look pretty spectacular! It must have been
      difficult to make hieroglyphs. Was this for a parade? Did you guys
      make it to the paper? Everything's WONDERFUL!! So cool to get the
      children involved.

      Jessica.
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 45866 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 4/2/2008
      Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
      .html
      With the 40th Anniversary upon us I wouldn't be surprised if theatres all over the place start showing PLANET or even more than one film this year.

      And thank you.

      Bruce


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Karyl Miller <gone2thebad@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 4:47 pm
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

      Fine, fine, ya big baby.
       
      I wish I had gone to the Ziegfeld, but I had to work that day!
       
      WAAAAHHHH!!!
       
      All right, I'll stop now.

       
      Karyl Miller


      ----- Original Message ----
      From: "stenosaurus@ aol.com" <stenosaurus@ aol.com>
      To: pota@yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 4:08:16 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

      He spoke about it in the BEHIND THE PLANET OF THE APES special-how the doughnut girl commented he had "nice buns!" 
      OK can I stop talking about men's behinds now? Please?

      Bruce


      -----Original Message-----
      From: GDJ1231@aol. com
      To: pota@yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 7:31 am
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

      Look in Heston's bios, I forgot which one, he has something interesting to say about the filming of those butt shots.
       
      Gary
       
      In a message dated 4/2/2008 5:33:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:
      I never noticed it before the screening last week...I don't spend much time looking at Heston's butt lol.

      Bruce


      -----Original Message-----
      From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
      To: pota@yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 6:15 pm
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

      When I saw this on the big screen 15 years ago, the outline of his briefs clearly delineated through the ANSA outfit as they walked out in the Forbidden Zone definitely elicited a few giggles from the gals in the crowd.
       
      Jessica.

      On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      Bruce,

      I'm glad I'm not the only one watching his back! That is exactly what
      I saw. Thank you.

      Helen


      --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
      >
      > Helen I noticed that, too, but didn't want to be the first to mention
      > it...being a guy and all. Leaving the soggy ship Taylor had boxers
      on but shortly
      > thereafter he was wearing briefs.
      >
      > Bruce
      >





      Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home.



      You rock. That's why Blockbuster' s offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 45867 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
      Subject: Re: ...Work in Progress (Billy?)
      .html
      Attachments :
        Helen, I have saved it down to .jpgs.  If you still have trouble opening the file, let me know and I will save it into jessica's stuff.

        On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:57 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

        Sorry, Jessica. I can't open the .jpg.



        Helen

        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
        >
        > Helen, I kept this PDF as a reference when they sold a background
        gorilla
        > suit on ebay. I thought it was cool that the gorilla shirts had chest
        > pockets with buttons for a total of 4 pockets in the front...and
        that it had
        > a Mandarin collar, too. Let me know if you are unable to open the
        PDF and I
        > may save it down to a jpeg.
        >
        > Jessica.
        >
        > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:18 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
        >
        > > Jessica,
        > >
        > > It looks like wool to me, too. I'm hoping that Billy will tell us
        > > when he reads this.
        > >
        > > Billy?
        > >
        > > It think the gorilla and orangutan suits were duck. (That's what we
        > > used for ours, anyway, and they looked OK.) I'll try to find some
        > > pictures and post them for you.
        > >
        > > Helen
        > >
        > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"
        > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
        > > >
        > > > Helen,
        > > >
        > > > Please let me know what type of fabric they use on the chimp suits
        > > if you do
        > > > ever go to Billy's basement. I am thinking they used some kind of
        > > > lightweight wool, but I have never seen it in person. That's what
        > > surmise
        > > > from what I have seen in photographs.
        > > >
        > > > Does anybody here know what type of fabric they used for the chimp
        > > suits?
        > > >
        > > > Jessica.
        > > >
        > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@>
        > > > wrote:
        > > >
        > > > > Helen,
        > > > >
        > > > > Thanks for the well wishes. I have not had the privilege of
        > > viewing an
        > > > > actual costume with my own eyes... I tried to contact somebody in
        > > SF that
        > > > > may still have the costumes, but he never replied to my e-mails.
        > > Gosh--to
        > > > > be in the same room with an actual costume--that's another wish to
        > > yearn
        > > > > for!!
        > > > > I only purchased 1/4 of a yard of the fabrics because it was only
        > > for my
        > > > > Mego Zira. This costume for the Sideshow is just the leftovers of
        > > that old
        > > > > project.
        > > > > Your outfit came out very well I think! I am always on the
        > > lookout for
        > > > > that perfect chimp green in preparation for the outfit I will make
        > > myself
        > > > > someday.
        > > > >
        > > > > Jessica.
        > > > >
        > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@>
        > > > > wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > > > Jessica,
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Good luck on all of it! You are obviously good at it. I
        would want
        > > > > > to see a real Zira costume before building another one myself.
        > > And...
        > > > > > I would want to make it with the right materials. Have you been
        > > > > > privileged yet to see a production costume? One day I'm
        going to go
        > > > > > check out Billy's stuff. It would at least give me an idea.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > I'd wear one like you just made for the doll! Did you buy
        lots of
        > > > > > extra fabric? ;)
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Helen
        > > > > >
        > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%

        > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica
        > > rotich"
        > > > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Thanks, Helen. Hopefully by the time I have saved up enough to
        > > buy my
        > > > > > > appliance, I should be ready to make my own chimp suit...
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Jessica.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@>
        > > wrote:
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Oh, Jessica..
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Good luck on the jacket! I can't wait to see it!
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Helen
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
        > > 40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
        > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"
        > > > > > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot
        > > pink frogs.
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > Wish me luck.
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > Jessica.
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        >


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        Group: pota Message: 45868 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/2/2008
        Subject: Re: Live from the Ziegfeld
        .html
        I better get cracking on my chimp outfit!! 
         
        Jessica.

        On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:22 PM, <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

        With the 40th Anniversary upon us I wouldn't be surprised if theatres all over the place start showing PLANET or even more than one film this year.

        And thank you.

        Bruce




        -----Original Message-----
        From: Karyl Miller <gone2thebad@...>
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 4:47 pm
        Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

        Fine, fine, ya big baby.
         
        I wish I had gone to the Ziegfeld, but I had to work that day!
         
        WAAAAHHHH!!!
         
        All right, I'll stop now.

         
        Karyl Miller


        ----- Original Message ----
        From: "stenosaurus@..." <stenosaurus@...>
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 4:08:16 PM
        Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

        He spoke about it in the BEHIND THE PLANET OF THE APES special-how the doughnut girl commented he had "nice buns!" 
        OK can I stop talking about men's behinds now? Please?

        Bruce


        -----Original Message-----
        From: GDJ1231@aol. com
        To: pota@yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 7:31 am
        Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

        Look in Heston's bios, I forgot which one, he has something interesting to say about the filming of those butt shots.
         
        Gary
         
        In a message dated 4/2/2008 5:33:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:
        I never noticed it before the screening last week...I don't spend much time looking at Heston's butt lol.

        Bruce


        -----Original Message-----
        From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
        To: pota@yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 6:15 pm
        Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

        When I saw this on the big screen 15 years ago, the outline of his briefs clearly delineated through the ANSA outfit as they walked out in the Forbidden Zone definitely elicited a few giggles from the gals in the crowd.
         
        Jessica.

        On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:42 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        Bruce,

        I'm glad I'm not the only one watching his back! That is exactly what
        I saw. Thank you.

        Helen


        --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
        >
        > Helen I noticed that, too, but didn't want to be the first to mention
        > it...being a guy and all. Leaving the soggy ship Taylor had boxers
        on but shortly
        > thereafter he was wearing briefs.
        >
        > Bruce
        >


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        Group: pota Message: 45869 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
        Subject: Re: ...Work in Progress (Billy?)
        .html
        James got it, Jessica. He put it in files. Thanks to you both. I
        visit the group on the web rather than receiving stuff through email.
        That might effect my ability to see the photos. I'm not sure.

        The costume is cool. You are right about the pockets. Who would've
        known they were there? I do like the neck. The neck on Raymond's
        costume was just turned in and hemmed. It was a pullover with an
        opening in the back. Ashley's tunic buckled in the front. (We used
        Billy's female gorilla costume as our guide, as his is the only one
        known to exist.) I will search his site for a picture of that costume.

        Anyway, one day I may be able to put together a more believable chimp
        costume, but for the most part this worked ok. People knew who we
        were supposed to be. Better than the masks worn on that clip that
        James posted yesterday!!!

        As far as the costume goes, I would like to be able to pull on Zira's
        robe, grab my carpetbag, and go out for the evening... so it would
        have to be "real" and usable. It's not that I would wear the face,
        but I do like the jacket!


        Helen


        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
        >
        > Helen, I have saved it down to .jpgs. If you still have trouble
        opening the
        > file, let me know and I will save it into jessica's stuff.
        >
        > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:57 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
        >
        > > Sorry, Jessica. I can't open the .jpg.
        > >
        > > Helen
        > >
        > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"
        > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
        > > >
        > > > Helen, I kept this PDF as a reference when they sold a background
        > > gorilla
        > > > suit on ebay. I thought it was cool that the gorilla shirts had
        chest
        > > > pockets with buttons for a total of 4 pockets in the front...and
        > > that it had
        > > > a Mandarin collar, too. Let me know if you are unable to open the
        > > PDF and I
        > > > may save it down to a jpeg.
        > > >
        > > > Jessica.
        > > >
        > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:18 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@> wrote:
        > > >
        > > > > Jessica,
        > > > >
        > > > > It looks like wool to me, too. I'm hoping that Billy will tell us
        > > > > when he reads this.
        > > > >
        > > > > Billy?
        > > > >
        > > > > It think the gorilla and orangutan suits were duck. (That's
        what we
        > > > > used for ours, anyway, and they looked OK.) I'll try to find some
        > > > > pictures and post them for you.
        > > > >
        > > > > Helen
        > > > >
        > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com
        <pota%40yahoogroups.com><pota%40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"
        > > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Helen,
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Please let me know what type of fabric they use on the chimp
        suits
        > > > > if you do
        > > > > > ever go to Billy's basement. I am thinking they used some
        kind of
        > > > > > lightweight wool, but I have never seen it in person. That's
        what
        > > > > surmise
        > > > > > from what I have seen in photographs.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Does anybody here know what type of fabric they used for the
        chimp
        > > > > suits?
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Jessica.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@>
        > > > > > wrote:
        > > > > >
        > > > > > > Helen,
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Thanks for the well wishes. I have not had the privilege of
        > > > > viewing an
        > > > > > > actual costume with my own eyes... I tried to contact
        somebody in
        > > > > SF that
        > > > > > > may still have the costumes, but he never replied to my
        e-mails.
        > > > > Gosh--to
        > > > > > > be in the same room with an actual costume--that's another
        wish to
        > > > > yearn
        > > > > > > for!!
        > > > > > > I only purchased 1/4 of a yard of the fabrics because it
        was only
        > > > > for my
        > > > > > > Mego Zira. This costume for the Sideshow is just the
        leftovers of
        > > > > that old
        > > > > > > project.
        > > > > > > Your outfit came out very well I think! I am always on the
        > > > > lookout for
        > > > > > > that perfect chimp green in preparation for the outfit I
        will make
        > > > > myself
        > > > > > > someday.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Jessica.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@>
        > > > > > > wrote:
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Jessica,
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Good luck on all of it! You are obviously good at it. I
        > > would want
        > > > > > > > to see a real Zira costume before building another one
        myself.
        > > > > And...
        > > > > > > > I would want to make it with the right materials. Have
        you been
        > > > > > > > privileged yet to see a production costume? One day I'm
        > > going to go
        > > > > > > > check out Billy's stuff. It would at least give me an idea.
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > I'd wear one like you just made for the doll! Did you buy
        > > lots of
        > > > > > > > extra fabric? ;)
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Helen
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com
        <pota%40yahoogroups.com><pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
        > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica
        > > > > rotich"
        > > > > > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > Thanks, Helen. Hopefully by the time I have saved up
        enough to
        > > > > buy my
        > > > > > > > > appliance, I should be ready to make my own chimp suit...
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > Jessica.
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM, ape_mom
        <sand_hill_school@>
        > > > > wrote:
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > Oh, Jessica..
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > Good luck on the jacket! I can't wait to see it!
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > Helen
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com
        <pota%40yahoogroups.com><pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
        > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
        > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "jessica rotich"
        > > > > > > > > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
        > > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot
        > > > > pink frogs.
        > > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > > Wish me luck.
        > > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > > > Jessica.
        > > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 45870 From: ape_mom Date: 4/2/2008
        Subject: Female Gorilla
        .html
        Jessica...

        Here is the link to the female gorilla costume.

        http://www.billysbasement.com/cgi-bin/apes-image.cgi?name=apes/mp2.jpg&hsize=500&vsize=500

        Helen
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        Group: pota Message: 45871 From: Jeff Date: 4/2/2008
        Subject: Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress
        .html
        .html
        After numerous viewings of the Chimp and Gorilla costumes at various Planet Hollywoods, in the past, It appeared to be pant cloth/demin like or Duck cloth.  Apemania wpuld be the best to ask.  I'm making my new costumes out of Pant weight denim from Yardage Town.  The have the perfect Plum, but the green is too light so I dyed mine. 
         
        Jeff B
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:23 PM
        Subject: Re: [pota] Re: I have uploaded photos of my current Work in Progress

        Helen,
         
        Please let me know what type of fabric they use on the chimp suits if you do ever go to Billy's basement.  I am thinking they used some kind of lightweight wool, but I have never seen it in person.  That's what surmise from what I have seen in photographs. 
         
        Does anybody here know what type of fabric they used for the chimp suits?
         
        Jessica.

        On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
        Helen,
         
        Thanks for the well wishes.  I have not had the privilege of viewing an actual costume with my own eyes... I tried to contact somebody in SF that may still have the costumes, but he never replied to my e-mails.  Gosh--to be in the same room with an actual costume--that's another wish to yearn for!!
        I only purchased 1/4 of a yard of the fabrics because it was only for my Mego Zira.  This costume for the Sideshow is just the leftovers of that old project. 
        Your outfit came out very well I think!  I am always on the lookout for that perfect chimp green in preparation for the outfit I will make myself someday.
         
        Jessica.
         
        On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@ yahoo.com> wrote:

        Jessica,

        Good luck on all of it! You are obviously good at it. I would want
        to see a real Zira costume before building another one myself. And...
        I would want to make it with the right materials. Have you been
        privileged yet to see a production costume? One day I'm going to go
        check out Billy's stuff. It would at least give me an idea.

        I'd wear one like you just made for the doll! Did you buy lots of
        extra fabric? ;)



        Helen

        --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
        >
        > Thanks, Helen. Hopefully by the time I have saved up enough to buy my
        > appliance, I should be ready to make my own chimp suit...
        >
        > Jessica.
        >
        > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM, ape_mom <sand_hill_school@ ...> wrote:
        >
        > > Oh, Jessica..
        > >
        > > Good luck on the jacket! I can't wait to see it!
        > >
        > > Helen
        > >
        > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com <pota%40yahoogroups. com>, "jessica rotich"

        > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
        > > >
        > >
        > > > After this, I will start the swing jacket with the hot pink frogs.
        > > >
        > > > Wish me luck.
        > > >
        > > > Jessica.
        > > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        >



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        Group: pota Message: 45872 From: m c Date: 4/2/2008
        Subject: Re: Has anyone else seen this?
        .html
        *** The thing is, James wasn't too far off in his practical joke... FOX "did" make a teen comedy (farce) with the APES name attached to it. It was released in July of 2001 and directed by Tim Burton... ***

        Bobby Smyth <cuddybuddy69@...> wrote:
        Yeah it got me too first time i read it Jess,so you weren't the only
        one caught out ....James..brilliant piece of work..ya bandit ye
        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich"
        wrote:
        >
        > James, Glad you told me to read through the article again. I was
        just so
        > upset I couldn't finish reading it...
        >
        > Hee hee...
        >
        > Jessica.
        >
        > On 4/1/08, PofTAfan@... wrote:
        > >
        > > It an April Fools joke. It's going to get some people riled
        up.
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > -----Original Message-----
        > > From: Meg Griffin
        > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        > > Sent: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 1:15 pm
        > > Subject: Re: [pota] Has anyone else seen this?
        > >
        > > WAY TO GO JAMES!!! FANTASTIC APRIL FOOL!!
        > >
        > > ----- Original Message ----
        > > From: jessica rotich
        > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        > > Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2008 11:45:12 AM
        > > Subject: Re: [pota] Has anyone else seen this?
        > >
        > > This is definitely bile-inducing. ..
        > >
        > > I can't believe it.
        > >
        > > Jessica.
        > >
        > >
        > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM, potatv com >
        > > wrote:
        > >
        > > > Are they crazy?
        > > > http://hollywoodins ider.ew.com/ movie_biz/ index.htmlbr>> > >

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        Group: pota Message: 45873 From: m c Date: 4/2/2008
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        *** What doesn't make sense about it? They were sent up to find someplace to colonize, and as such, they'd need women to reproduce with. Even the misanthrope Taylor found Stewart quite attractive, and I'm sure he would have been first in line to make her the new "Eve" to his "Adam".
         
        What doesn't make sense is why the mission only had one woman to three men.

        ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
        You know, that is the one line that I would remove from the script.
        It actually doesn't make any sense.

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