Thanks to James A., the pressbook for the GO APE! campaign is now
available for your viewing and downloading pleasure.

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

Yeah....that's kinda why I stoped following this conversation.

Both the LA Weekly and LA Times had in depth articles this week about
it being the 40th anniversary of Bonnie & Clyde (albiet released
in '67, go figure.) They were in depth articles, not just blurbs
promoting a 40th anniversary DVD release, but why has there been little
to no press for POTA?

Having said that, though, you've got to love a film that launched the
careers of two great Genes-

Wilder, and my all time favorite actor, Hackman.

No one started the thread, so I figured I might as well. List here all
the extras that are wanted on the future POTA release.

The only extra I've ever wanted, and I don't know if it should be
included, because I don't know if we should just stick to the original
film or not, is-


Wanted Extras

1. The original cut of Conquest



Feel free to add to the list...

I would love to see the missing footage of the chimps in the Icarus
from the beginning of ESCAPE. I've seen a few tantalizing photos,
now if someone could only come up with the actual filmed footage.....

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> No one started the thread, so I figured I might as well. List here
all
> the extras that are wanted on the future POTA release.
>
> The only extra I've ever wanted, and I don't know if it should be
> included, because I don't know if we should just stick to the
original
> film or not, is-
>
>
> Wanted Extras
>
> 1. The original cut of Conquest
>
>
>
> Feel free to add to the list...
>

Deleted scenss from the TV series.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
> I would love to see the missing footage of the chimps in the Icarus
> from the beginning of ESCAPE. I've seen a few tantalizing photos,
> now if someone could only come up with the actual filmed
footage.....
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@> wrote:
> >
> > No one started the thread, so I figured I might as well. List
here
> all
> > the extras that are wanted on the future POTA release.
> >
> > The only extra I've ever wanted, and I don't know if it should be
> > included, because I don't know if we should just stick to the
> original
> > film or not, is-
> >
> >
> > Wanted Extras
> >
> > 1. The original cut of Conquest
> >
> >
> >
> > Feel free to add to the list...
> >
>

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In a message dated 3/24/2008 10:18:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, handleyr@... writes:

Deleted scenss from the TV series.

Dudes (and Dudettes), I think what Fox is starting to get ready for Blu-ray is a new release of the "original" PLANET OF THE APES, meaning the first film -- not the whole damn series, TV show, etc., etc.!!!!. 

 

All I'd ask for in the way of new extras is a decent commentary track, plus a commentary track on just the score (isolated this time), an extensive collection of stills, and -- if they can possibly find them -- outtakes we haven't seen already.  Other than that, I guess the usual little featurettes that Fox loves to throw in.  Maybe a Rick Baker tribute to John Chambers -- that kind of thing.  A remembrance of Arthur P. Jacobs would be nice too.

 

-- Rory

 

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No apology necessary Gelson, and I understand that there are people that, in most cases, can understand English, but cannot speak it. In the mopst extreme cases there are people that, obviously, refuse to speak English.

I know you all were not speaking in your native tongue to be mean or anything, but it is kindda hard to follow a conversation with a language barrier in the way. It can be likened to English being like Windows and other languages being like Linux, better and alot of packages ;)

So please take no offense by me or mc, perhaps when posting....maybe include a translated version of the message? *shrugs* just a thought.... take what you want from this message, but I really meant no disrespect to anyone by this or the previous.

--
Best Regards,
Colin Snow

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Gelson Nicolini Monteiro"
<gelsonnicolini@...> wrote:

>
> forgive me Colin.
> We have no intencion of exclude anyone.
> (PS.: In Brasil we spoke Portuguese not Spanish (Casteliano) the mistake
> is not big because many words are similary).

I think it's pretty cool to see other languages spoken on the message
board. It reminds me POTA is a worldwide phenomenon and not just an
American one. Go ahead and speak Portuguese if it makes it easier for
you, Gelson - just remember we can't all join in.

BTW, I thought POTA was huge in Japan... how come there's no Japanese
members?

Dave

PORTUGUES!

m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:

*** Can you guys type in English so those of us who can't read Spanish can answer you as well? ***

Gelson Nicolini Monteiro <gelsonnicolini@ gmail.com> wrote:

Feliz Páscoa,

Caro Saulo,

A principio devo dizer que não conheço seu amigo seu amigo do Flamengo.

Posso "scaniar" o livro para você se desejar.

Por favor, me mantenha informado sobre o lançamento do livro,  (não vou deixar

de comprá-lo) o título está ótimo.

Me informe sobre esses lançamentos: Diários... e o DVD (como poderei obtê-los aqui no Rio)

 

meu endereço:

Rua carlos de vasconselos, 66 - apt 402 - cep:20521-050 - Tijuca - Rio de Janeiro - RJ

e-mail: gelsonnicolini@ gmail.com

 

Sds,

Gelson

 

Em 21/03/08, Luiz Saulo Adami <apedami@yahoo. com.br> escreveu:

Gelson,

 

grato por teu e-mail! Eu tenho um grande amigo, Haroldo Esteves, que mora no Flamengo, conhece?

 

Muito agradecido pelas palavras sobre meu trabalho, o que me deixa à vontade para conversarmos sobre qualquer outro aspecto Ape. A propósito do livro em português, do Pierre Boullle, gostaria muito de ter uma cópia desta versão, também, caso seja possível encontrar mais um milagre desses, nuim sebo carioca... Estamos para lançar, pela nossa editora (S&T Editores - veja nosso site, apesar de desatualizado: www.steditores. br21.com), a versão em português do Brasil, do livro LA PLANÈTE DES SINGES, de Pierre Boulle, que vamos chamar somente PLANETA DOS MACACOS. Estamos inciando as conversações com o editor francês, que detém os direitos de publicação.

 

Do planeta, tenho cerca de 1.800 ítens, dos mais variados paríses, que troco, compro, vendo, enfim, faço de tudo um pouco. Poderíamos compartilhar ítens assim, o que achas?

 

Meu endereço para correspondências convencionais:

 

SAULO ADAMI

Caixa postal 496

88350-970 - Brusque - SC

 

Por favor, mantenhamos contato regular!

 

Agora, dentro de umas duas semanas, teremos exemplares de DIÁRIOS DE HOLLYWOOD: UM BRASILEIRO NO PLANETA DOS MACACOS à venda. Em breve, também, teremos um DVD documentário chamado TALKING APES, com entrevistas exclusivas que fiz na Califórnia, em 1998, com Booth Colman (Zaius da TV), Ron Harper (Alan Virdon da TV), Don Pedro Colley (o mutante Negro de BENEATH) e Buck Kartlian (os gorilas JULIUS, de 1968, e Franbk, de 1972), raridade, raridade, raridade!

 

Grande abraço,

 

Saulo Adami

 

Feliz Páscoa, também!

Gelson Nicolini Monteiro <gelsonnicolini@ gmail.com> escreveu:

Caro Adami,

 

Eu sou do Rio de Janeiro - Tijuca

Gostei muito do seu livro, eu o tenho e sempre me dá vontade de rever algumas

coisas nele. É um excelente trabalho.

É pena que aqui no Brasil não temos facilidade em conseguir materiais (revistas,

artigos, bonecos...) sobre esses filmes que tanto gostamos.

Seu livro foi o primeiro que comprei (sem considerar algumas revistas da Marvel),

 

Para você ver: alem dos DVD's,  tenho o CD do primeiro filme, (meu irmão o achou numa loja), 

Jef (redspy) me enviou via e-mail as musicas do BENEATH, o que foi fantástico.

Consegui num sebo uma edição de portugal do Planeta dos Macacos (parecia

um milagre e incrivelmente de facíl leitura)  e é incrível que não tenham lançado

aqui no Brasil. O game para PC foi otímo e o pior, não teve propaganda, apareceu

na prateleira e pronto.

Agradeço ao grupo do yahoo e ao Hunter entre outros o material que eles tem

 

Aguardo ancioso o lançamento de seu novo trabalho.

 

 

 

 

2008/3/19, Luiz Saulo Adami <apedami@yahoo. com.br>:

Gelson,

de onde você é? Eu sou Saulo Adami, autor de "O único humano bom é aquele que está morto!" e estou preparando o lançamento de outro livro sobre os Apes.

Abraço,

Saulo Adami
Escritor

Gelson Nicolini Monteiro <gelsonnicolini@ gmail.com> escreveu:

I'm from Brasil and i like a lot the work you did.

Many new fact's ( the fly of Brent, Milo's travel, the return of the gorillas of Forbiden zone....)

Beneath´ll be great.

 

Thank's a lot

 

2008/3/18, Colin Snow <colindsnow@gmail. com>:

Hey all, I know I don't post much (or at least as much as Bill does but I was wondering:

1. Did you guys like the Planet that BrokenSea did?

and 2. Did you like the performances that me and the other actors did? (I was Various Gorillas and Commander Brent)

Just was wondering your opinion.

Dunno if Bill wants this out, but more Planet will be coming (from beneath).

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It may be too late anyway. There is a press release for the July 1st
release of Batman:The Movie, which was on the short list of titles...
Maybe the Apes press release will come soon....

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 3/24/2008 10:18:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> handleyr@... writes:
>
> Deleted scenss from the TV series.
> Dudes (and Dudettes), I think what Fox is starting to get ready for
Blu-ray
> is a new release of the "original" PLANET OF THE APES, meaning the
first film
> -- not the whole damn series, TV show, etc., etc.!!!!.
>
> All I'd ask for in the way of new extras is a decent commentary
track, plus
> a commentary track on just the score (isolated this time), an
extensive
> collection of stills, and -- if they can possibly find them --
outtakes we haven't
> seen already. Other than that, I guess the usual little
featurettes that
> Fox loves to throw in. Maybe a Rick Baker tribute to John
Chambers -- that
> kind of thing. A remembrance of Arthur P. Jacobs would be nice
too.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
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on AOL
> Home.
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ncid=aolhom00030000000001)
>

Hello there-

My husband and I have a gallery in Atlanta, and are putting together an artshow to celebrate the 40th anniversary of POTA. The show opens April 12th, featuring over 40 local and national artists. For those of you in the Atlanta area, there will be an opening night party on the 12th from 7pm- midnight.  Artwork that hasn't sold after the opening night, will be available for purchase online, and the show runs through May 3rd.

http://www.lowbrowgalleryatlanta.com

Link to the myspace invite for the opening;

http://events.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=events.detail&eventID=409540.79628&Mytoken=2B797E29-EAD4-46D7-8B2549380E11C7A19687204

Hope that some of you can make it out. Also, if anyone knows anyone in the Altanta area that does POTA costuming, we would love someone to come in costume to the opening. I know this is a long shot, but I thought this would be a good place to put it out there...

Sincerely,

Barb Hays/ The Gallery at East Atlanta Tattoo

 

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In a message dated 3/25/08 7:37:43 AM, smugster2000@... writes:

how come there's no Japanese
members?


wakarimasen


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In a message dated 3/25/2008 4:48:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, drhasslein@... writes:

It may be too late anyway. There is a press release for the July 1st
release of Batman:The Movie, which was on the short list of titles...
Maybe the Apes press release will come soon....

Yeah, and I'd get ready for a "no frills" release.  Fox may do the "let's just give them the movie now" thing, then wait until APES 45th anniversary for the Blu-ray Special Edition.

 

-- Rory

 

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*** I wouldn't be surpirised if they just use the same piss-poor commentary track(s) as o the 35th Anniversary disc. And, they'll probably whip in BEHIND THE PLANET OF THE APES yet again. ***

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 3/24/2008 10:18:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, handleyr@... writes:

Deleted scenss from the TV series.

Dudes (and Dudettes), I think what Fox is starting to get ready for Blu-ray is a new release of the "original" PLANET OF THE APES, meaning the first film -- not the whole damn series, TV show, etc., etc.!!!!. 

 

All I'd ask for in the way of new extras is a decent commentary track, plus a commentary track on just the score (isolated this time), an extensive collection of stills, and -- if they can possibly find them -- outtakes we haven't seen already.  Other than that, I guess the usual little featurettes that Fox loves to throw in.  Maybe a Rick Baker tribute to John Chambers -- that kind of thing.  A remembrance of Arthur P. Jacobs would be nice too.

 

-- Rory

 

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Hey, maybe I'm wrong about what Fox will include on Blu-ray DVD releases!  Look at what they'll be doing with BATMAN: THE MOVIE.  Of course, there is a new BATMAN movie coming out soon, but hopefully they'll put some extra effort into APES... (Write to Fox!)

-- Rory

FOX TO RELEASE SPECIAL BLU RAY EDITION OF 1966 "BATMAN" MOVIE

Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to capitalize on this summer's release of the forthcoming Batman feature film, The Dark Knight. Fox will release a new special edition DVD of the 1966 Batman feature film that starred Adam West and Burt Ward, as well as an all-star cast of villains. A previous special DVD edition has been on the market for years, but the new release will have an abundance of exclusive extras. It's clear the studios are trying to provide incentives for consumers to adapt to the Blu-ray system by releasing editions such as this exclusively in that format. Additionally, there will be a limited edition release of this title that includes a Batmobile replica. No box art has been finalized, but here is the official press release that Cinema Retro just received from Fox:

HOLY HIGH DEFINITION BATMAN!

BATMAN: THE MOVIE

SPECIAL EDITION BLU-RAY DISC

The 1966 Caped-Crusading Classic Starring Adam West Dashes Onto Blu-Ray Disc July 1 From Fox Home Entertainment

Dynamic Disc Features New, Exclusive High Definition Extras, Plus A BD Industry First,

Nelson Riddle's Cool Jazz Score Presented As An Isolated Music Track In Lossless Audio

Also Available, A Limited, Special Edition Blu-ray Disc Packaged With A Scale Batmobile

Citizens of Gotham City shall fear not when the heroic Caped Crusader and his crime-fighting chum, Boy Wonder, stop dastardly villains from de-hydrating the planet in the original full-length bat-film, BATMAN: THE MOVIE SPECIAL EDITION, arriving on high definition Blu-Ray Disc for the first time July 1st from Fox Home Entertainment. Starring Adam West (Batman) and Burt Ward (Robin), this 1966 spin-off of the popular "Batman" television series features all four of the hero's most diabolical and cunning adversaries: the clown prince of crime, The Joker (Cesar Romero); the count of criminal conundrums, The Riddler (Frank Gorshin); the pompous waddling master of fowl play, The Penguin (Burgess Meredith); and the fiendish feline, The Catwoman (Lee Meriwether). Directed by Leslie H. Martinson (PT 109, Rescue from Gilligan's Island), who later won a Golden Gryphon for his efforts, the colorful and over-the-top film featured a groovy and swank score by Academy Award® winner* Nelson Riddle.

Brimming with brand new and exclusive high definition bat-features, the Blu-ray Disc includes "Batman: A Dynamic Legacy," a tribute to the caped crusader and look at Gotham's evil villains in "Gotham City's Most Wanted"; a 360 degree navigational tour of the Batmobile; and an isolated score in 5.1 DTS HD Master Audio (Lossless), an industry first for Blu-Ray Disc that allows viewers to listen to the score only. The Special Edition also includes interviews and commentary by actors West, Ward, and screenwriter Lorenzo Semple, Jr., featurettes, trivia track, galleries and trailers.

The BATMAN: THE MOVIE SPECIAL EDITION Blu-Ray Disc will be available for the suggested retail price of $39.98 U.S. / $49.98 Canada . Prebook is June 4th. Additionally, 5,000 lucky fans can take home a limited, special edition Blu-Ray packaged with a 1/18th scale Batmobile from Hot Wheels® for the suggested retail price of $59.98 U.S.

DVD Special Features:

The Batman: The Movie Special Edition Blu-Ray Disc is presented in widescreen with English 5.1 DTS HD Lossless Audio, English and French Mono and includes English, French and Spanish subtitles. Bonus features include:

· Commentary by actors Adam West and Burt Ward

· Commentary by screenwriter Lorenzo Semple, Jr.

· Isolated Score Track 5.1 DTS HD Master Audio (Lossless)

· All-new high-definition featurettes:

o Batman: A Dynamic Legacy

o Caped Crusaders: A Heroes Tribute

o Gotham City 's Most Wanted

· 2001 35th Anniversary Piece Featuring Interviews with Adam West and Burt Ward

· The Batmobile Revealed with George Barris

· The Batmobile Interactive Tour – A 360 Degree Navigational Tour

· BATMAN on Location: Mapping the Movie

· Holy Pop-Up Trivia Track, Batman!

· Original Teaser and Theatrical Trailers

· Galleries:

o From the Vaults of Adam West

o Interactive Pressbook

o Posters

o Production Stills

o Behind the Scenes

o Premiere Newsreel footage

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Barb,
I wish I could make it to the gallery but I will check back after the event for new photos...

Maybe I haven't been around enough but I have to say this is the most varied, diverse, unusual and entertaining website I have ever 'belonged to!'  The amazing cross-section of contributors never ceases to blow my mind.
Bruce





-----Original Message-----s
From: barbigo65 <lusted@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 5:41 pm
Subject: [pota] "Damn Dirty Ape" artshow coming to Atlanta!

Barb,

For those of us who won't be able to make it in person, will all the
art, regardless of whether or not it sells, be available to view on line?

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:

> wakarimasen

I'm not sure either, I'm on other groups where Japanese members
regularly post and in most cases their English is better than mine!

I don't think Simian Scrolls has a single reader in Japan.

Terry? How about Ape Chronicles?

Dave

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--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, LordTZer0@.. . wrote:

> wakarimasen

I'm not sure either, I'm on other groups where Japanese members
regularly post and in most cases their English is better than mine!

I don't think Simian Scrolls has a single reader in Japan.

Terry? How about Ape Chronicles?

Dave

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Hi Dave,
Hopefully. We ask that the artists give us a clear photo of the work so
we can post it up. So, yes, everything that we get should be posted up
near or right after the opening.
:)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Barb,
>
> For those of us who won't be able to make it in person, will all the
> art, regardless of whether or not it sells, be available to view on
line?
>
> Dave
>

We actually had one reader in Japan, who later relocated to the UK.
Japan loved Apes--it's a pity we can't make contact.John, Scrolls.

>
> Hi Dave, i checked my subscription records of the past
> and I have had 4 people from Japan at one time or another purchase

Ape Chronicles

>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
>
> > wakarimasen
>
> I'm not sure either, I'm on other groups where Japanese members
> regularly post and in most cases their English is better than

mine!

>
> I don't think Simian Scrolls has a single reader in Japan.
>
> Terry? How about Ape Chronicles?
>
> Dave
>

In the George Alec Effinger anthology, 'Live from Planet Earth!', a
story features a race of smug know it all aliens who visit Earth and
annoy everyone by being all knowing and right all the time (you know,
like a wife).There's a debate about the most perfect piece of music
ever and the head alien tells mankind that the answer to that has been
long settled as being the score from a certain film.Can anybody guess
which film George Effinger's alien was talking about?John, Scrolls.

Your Taylor figure looks fantastic!

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew

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In a message dated 3/27/2008 7:54:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, john@... writes:

In the George Alec Effinger anthology, 'Live from Planet Earth!', a
story features a race of smug know it all aliens who visit Earth and
annoy everyone by being all knowing and right all the time (you know,
like a wife).There' s a debate about the most perfect piece of music
ever and the head alien tells mankind that the answer to that has been
long settled as being the score from a certain film.Can anybody guess
which film George Effinger's alien was talking about?John, Scrolls.

My first reaction to this is that "perfect" is subjective and is decided against certain standards that can vary.  Anyway, you probably wouldn't be bring this up if it wasn't PLANET, but I wouldn't say that myself.  The score to PLANET is one of the very best, but perfect?  I don't know about that.  Is there anything perfect in the entire universe?

 

-- Rory

 

 

 

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So, just how many here live in the NYC area and are planning on going to the Ziegfeld to see this new print of PLANET?   Anyone planning on being there tomorrow?  Hope to get an early report on the print quality, even though I'll be traveling that day and hopefully will be able to get on a computer Saturday night.

 

-- Rory

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On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:26 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Your Taylor figure looks fantastic!

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew

... Rory mentioned some FLAWS in the 35th Anniversary POTA'68 DVD
release.
I will not spleep anymore now!

Speckles, spots, debris, scratches? Oh my God, tell me it's not about
them.

Why flaws? Tell me more.

So, just how many here live in the NYC area and are planning on going to the Ziegfeld to see this new print of PLANET?   Anyone planning on being there tomorrow?  Hope to get an early report on the print quality, even though I'll be traveling that day and hopefully will be able to get on a computer Saturday night.

 

-- Rory

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In a message dated 3/27/2008 2:23:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, apecalypsenow@... writes:

... Rory mentioned some FLAWS in the 35th Anniversary POTA'68 DVD
release.
I will not spleep anymore now!

Speckles, spots, debris, scratches? Oh my God, tell me it's not about
them.

Why flaws? Tell me more.

Do you already have this DVD?  If so, all I can tell you now, because I don't want to look at the DVD when I'm going to go see it theatrically in a few days, is go frame-by-frame on the sequence where the astronauts hear the waterfall in the distance, and then do the same thing during the scene at the outdoor cage when Zira first tells Cornelius about Nova remembering the blood transfusion.  Otherwise, check out the main title sequence and notice the hair at the top of the screen (it doesn't last very long).

 

-- Rory

 

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In a message dated 3/27/2008 2:29:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bikergator25@... writes:

Rory, I live here in NYC... I plan on seeing the movie on Saturday... Will post a report on Saturday night or Sunday. You coming up?

DAVE NYC..

I am coming up, but I won't be able to get there until Monday.  As far as I know at this time, Joe Russo and Larry Landsman (the writers of the POTA REVISITED book) and myself will be going to the 8 pm Monday showing, but I'll be in the area all day Tuesday too, so plans could change.

 

James and a group of other members here will be going to the 5 pm showing on Saturday, and James will probably stay for the 8 pm showing too.

 

-- Rory

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Im going with them...

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 3/27/2008 2:29:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bikergator25@ yahoo.com writes:

Rory, I live here in NYC... I plan on seeing the movie on Saturday... Will post a report on Saturday night or Sunday. You coming up?

DAVE NYC..

I am coming up, but I won't be able to get there until Monday.  As far as I know at this time, Joe Russo and Larry Landsman (the writers of the POTA REVISITED book) and myself will be going to the 8 pm Monday showing, but I'll be in the area all day Tuesday too, so plans could change.

 

James and a group of other members here will be going to the 5 pm showing on Saturday, and James will probably stay for the 8 pm showing too.

 

-- Rory

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Actually, it was Ben Hur. I could be convinced that it's the right
choice too--I've loved that score for years. John, Scrolls.

>
> In a message dated 3/27/2008 7:54:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> john@... writes:
>
> In the George Alec Effinger anthology, 'Live from Planet Earth!',

a

> story features a race of smug know it all aliens who visit Earth

and

> annoy everyone by being all knowing and right all the time (you

know,

> like a wife).There'like a wife).There'<WBR>s a debate about the
> ever and the head alien tells mankind that the answer to that has

been

> long settled as being the score from a certain film.Can anybody

guess

> which film George Effinger's alien was talking about?John, Scrolls.
> My first reaction to this is that "perfect" is subjective and is

decided

> against certain standards that can vary. Anyway, you probably

wouldn't be bring

> this up if it wasn't PLANET, but I wouldn't say that myself. The

score to

> PLANET is one of the very best, but perfect? I don't know about

that. Is

> there anything perfect in the entire universe?
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>

> Greetings, my friends. I have found a link where you can download the
> original 1968 Jerry Goldsmith PLANET score, with the suite from ESCAPE
> included, for free.

"you can ILLEGALLY download...for free."

I'm just sayin'....

Hunter

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In a message dated 3/28/2008 6:33:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, goathunter@... writes:

> Greetings, my friends. I have found a link where you can download the
> original 1968 Jerry Goldsmith PLANET score, with the suite from ESCAPE
> included, for free.

"you can ILLEGALLY download...for free."

I'm just sayin'....

Hunter

It's still a CD easily bought on Amazon.com, etc.   I think in honor of the film and Jerry Goldsmith, you should simply buy one if you haven't already.

 

-- Rory

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me too! although I would have loved to meet Joe and
Larry!

Tim
--- David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:

> Im going with them...
>
> Haristas@... wrote: In a message
> dated 3/27/2008 2:29:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> bikergator25@... writes:
> Rory, I live here in NYC... I plan on seeing the
> movie on Saturday... Will post a report on Saturday
> night or Sunday. You coming up?
> DAVE NYC..
> I am coming up, but I won't be able to get there
> until Monday. As far as I know at this time, Joe
> Russo and Larry Landsman (the writers of the POTA
> REVISITED book) and myself will be going to the 8 pm
> Monday showing, but I'll be in the area all day
> Tuesday too, so plans could change.
>
> James and a group of other members here will be
> going to the 5 pm showing on Saturday, and James
> will probably stay for the 8 pm showing too.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> In a message dated 3/28/2008 6:33:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> goathunter@... writes:

> > Greetings, my friends. I have found a link where you can download the
> > original 1968 Jerry Goldsmith PLANET score, with the suite from ESCAPE
> > included, for free.

> "you can ILLEGALLY download...for free."

> I'm just sayin'....

> Hunter
> It's still a CD easily bought on Amazon.com, etc. I think in honor of the
> film and Jerry Goldsmith, you should simply buy one if you haven't already.

Yes, that was pretty much my point, Rory. (Jeff is the one who posted
the link saying it was free; I pointed out that it's being shared
illegally.)

Hunter

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Thanks Rory for posting this, I've just added my own comment and look forward to meeting many of you Saturday night at the Ziegfeld.

 

Gary, the Ziegfeldman

 

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On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Tim apefan <apefan23@...> wrote:

me too! although I would have loved to meet Joe and
Larry!

Tim

--- David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:

> Im going with them...
>
> Haristas@... wrote: In a message
> dated 3/27/2008 2:29:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> bikergator25@... writes:
> Rory, I live here in NYC... I plan on seeing the
> movie on Saturday... Will post a report on Saturday
> night or Sunday. You coming up?
> DAVE NYC..
> I am coming up, but I won't be able to get there
> until Monday. As far as I know at this time, Joe
> Russo and Larry Landsman (the writers of the POTA
> REVISITED book) and myself will be going to the 8 pm
> Monday showing, but I'll be in the area all day
> Tuesday too, so plans could change.
>
> James and a group of other members here will be
> going to the 5 pm showing on Saturday, and James
> will probably stay for the 8 pm showing too.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the
> video on AOL Home.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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Greetings, everyone. It has been pointed out to me that the link I
posted to download the Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack is apparently
an "illegal download". I honestly did not realize this, or I wouldn't
have posted the link. I would never intentionally ask anyone to do
anything wrong, and I am sincerely asking your forgiveness for pointing
you in the "wrong direction". I thought I had found something good,
but as it has been pointed out to me, if it is "too good to be true",
it's obviously not good. Please forgive my ignorance, and I promise to
better research anything I find in the future. Thank you for
understanding, and I hope I can earn your forgiveness.

Jeff (RedSpy)

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Greetings, everyone. It has been pointed out to me that the link I
posted to download the Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack is apparently
an "illegal download". I honestly did not realize this, or I wouldn't
have posted the link. I would never intentionally ask anyone to do
anything wrong, and I am sincerely asking your forgiveness for pointing
you in the "wrong direction". I thought I had found something good,
but as it has been pointed out to me, if it is "too good to be true",
it's obviously not good. Please forgive my ignorance, and I promise to
better research anything I find in the future. Thank you for
understanding, and I hope I can earn your forgiveness.

Jeff (RedSpy)

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There is an add in todays NY Post movie section. Its an advertisement for POTA playing at the Ziegfield..  It has a picture of Tayor holding Nova by her arm and a rifle in his other hand.

It looks like the scene outside the cave on the beach in the Forbidden zone...

Article was a nice write ip.

See ya at the movies....

DAVE NYC....

 

GO APE!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

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On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:28 PM, David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:

I forgive you....

Dave NYC....

Jeff <RedSpy13@...> wrote:

Greetings, everyone. It has been pointed out to me that the link I
posted to download the Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack is apparently
an "illegal download". I honestly did not realize this, or I wouldn't
have posted the link. I would never intentionally ask anyone to do
anything wrong, and I am sincerely asking your forgiveness for pointing
you in the "wrong direction". I thought I had found something good,
but as it has been pointed out to me, if it is "too good to be true",
it's obviously not good. Please forgive my ignorance, and I promise to
better research anything I find in the future. Thank you for
understanding, and I hope I can earn your forgiveness.

Jeff (RedSpy)

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If you are a TRUE Apes fan, you need the TV series AND cartoon.  I constantly watch the show to make me feel like I did every Friday back then.  Plus, the make up still excites me.

 

Jeff B

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:42 PM

Subject: [pota] Question about the POTA TV Series...... ...

I was thinking about ordering the series on DVD but can't remember much
about the tv series itself. Do any of you think it is worth ordering??
Is it as good as all the movies?? Pardon my asking this question but I
was quite young when the show aired on TV. I just wanted a few
opinions. I've absolutely loved the series for years.

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Greetings, everyone. It has been pointed out to me that the link I
posted to download the Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack is apparently
an "illegal download". I honestly did not realize this, or I wouldn't
have posted the link. I would never intentionally ask anyone to do
anything wrong, and I am sincerely asking your forgiveness for pointing
you in the "wrong direction". I thought I had found something good,
but as it has been pointed out to me, if it is "too good to be true",
it's obviously not good. Please forgive my ignorance, and I promise to
better research anything I find in the future. Thank you for
understanding, and I hope I can earn your forgiveness.

Jeff (RedSpy)

 

theres nothing to forgive. Youre still cool with me...............Joseph OBrien

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Don't worry about it Jeff. We all know your heart was in the right place.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings, everyone. It has been pointed out to me that the link I
> posted to download the Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack is apparently
> an "illegal download". I honestly did not realize this, or I wouldn't
> have posted the link. I would never intentionally ask anyone to do
> anything wrong, and I am sincerely asking your forgiveness for pointing
> you in the "wrong direction". I thought I had found something good,
> but as it has been pointed out to me, if it is "too good to be true",
> it's obviously not good. Please forgive my ignorance, and I promise to
> better research anything I find in the future. Thank you for
> understanding, and I hope I can earn your forgiveness.
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:59 AM

Subject: [pota] My Apologies to the Group

Greetings, everyone. It has been pointed out to me that the link I
posted to download the Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack is apparently
an "illegal download". I honestly did not realize this, or I wouldn't
have posted the link. I would never intentionally ask anyone to do
anything wrong, and I am sincerely asking your forgiveness for pointing
you in the "wrong direction". I thought I had found something good,
but as it has been pointed out to me, if it is "too good to be true",
it's obviously not good. Please forgive my ignorance, and I promise to
better research anything I find in the future. Thank you for
understanding, and I hope I can earn your forgiveness.

Jeff (RedSpy)

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>Posted by: "Jeff K." veetus@... damndirty68
>Apologies won't work. You are an embarrassment to all Jeffs. I want
>money. Jeff

I'm not even a Jeff, and I want money.

Hi All

I'm trying to further my collection of autographs related to POTA films
and TV series, some of which I have managed today at the memorabilia
show in the UK. But I have been told that it is really difficult to
gethold of Jsmes Naughton's autograph not on a picture of him in a
different role. It seems mad given he is one of the few still acting
and around. Does anyone know where I can get hold of his autograph?

Cheers

We are at the theater waiting for the 5PM showing. Tim madd it to New York as did Helen & her daughter, both of whom dressed as Apes.
More after the film.

He is not the Messiah,he is a very naughty boy

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings, everyone. It has been pointed out to me that the link I
> posted to download the Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack is apparently
> an "illegal download". I honestly did not realize this, or I
wouldn't
> have posted the link. I would never intentionally ask anyone to do
> anything wrong, and I am sincerely asking your forgiveness for
pointing
> you in the "wrong direction". I thought I had found something good,
> but as it has been pointed out to me, if it is "too good to be true",
> it's obviously not good. Please forgive my ignorance, and I promise
to
> better research anything I find in the future. Thank you for
> understanding, and I hope I can earn your forgiveness.
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>

Hi pinball !  I have James Naughton's autograph but unfortunately it is on nothing to do with the Planet of the Apes - I never thought he was one to be difficult about giving autographs ?!

pinballuk_co_uk <pinballuk_co_uk@...> wrote:

Hi All

I'm trying to further my collection of autographs related to POTA films
and TV series, some of which I have managed today at the memorabilia
show in the UK. But I have been told that it is really difficult to
gethold of Jsmes Naughton's autograph not on a picture of him in a
different role. It seems mad given he is one of the few still acting
and around. Does anyone know where I can get hold of his autograph?

Cheers

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pinballuk_co_uk <pinballuk_co_uk@...> wrote:

Hi All

I'm trying to further my collection of autographs related to POTA films
and TV series, some of which I have managed today at the memorabilia
show in the UK. But I have been told that it is really difficult to
gethold of Jsmes Naughton's autograph not on a picture of him in a
different role. It seems mad given he is one of the few still acting
and around. Does anyone know where I can get hold of his autograph?

Cheers

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We saw the first showing and met Gary. The print is good but not great. Helen and her daughter turned back to human form. Gary is starting his talk now. Gotta go!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> We are at the theater waiting for the 5PM showing. Tim madd it to New York as did Helen & her daughter, both of whom dressed as Apes.
> More after the film.
>

"The print is good but not great."

Well, I wasn't expecting something that looked like it was shot
yesterday. Film stock from that era has a look to it that's best
described as "dated." I remember I went to the 20th Anniversary of
"Star Wars," which was digitally enhanced, and I was surprised by how
old the movie looked.

The thing about DVDs and video is they actually make old movies look
better.

-- Rory

I'm sure it looks "dated". Heck, it's 40 years old. But I'll bet it's
great seeing it on the big screen again. I hope you guys are really
enjoying it!

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> "The print is good but not great."
>
> Well, I wasn't expecting something that looked like it was shot
> yesterday. Film stock from that era has a look to it that's best
> described as "dated." I remember I went to the 20th Anniversary of
> "Star Wars," which was digitally enhanced, and I was surprised by how
> old the movie looked.
>
> The thing about DVDs and video is they actually make old movies look
> better.
>
> -- Rory
>

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I took the wife & kids to the 2pm show. We all loved it. Its always a treat to watch a film at the Ziegfeld - I saw Blade Runner there this past summer , but I enjoyed POTA even more!

 

My wife, who is not really an apes fan - but was familiar with the films - was impressed with the score. Its amazing what the theater experience will do for a film that have only seen on the tube for years

 

Bill

 

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We all had a great time. Will post a fuller account tomorrow along with some pics.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
>
> I'm sure it looks "dated". Heck, it's 40 years old. But I'll bet it's
> great seeing it on the big screen again. I hope you guys are really
> enjoying it!
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> > "The print is good but not great."
> >
> > Well, I wasn't expecting something that looked like it was shot
> > yesterday. Film stock from that era has a look to it that's best
> > described as "dated." I remember I went to the 20th Anniversary of
> > "Star Wars," which was digitally enhanced, and I was surprised by how
> > old the movie looked.
> >
> > The thing about DVDs and video is they actually make old movies look
> > better.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>

"The print is good but not great."

Well, I wasn't expecting something that looked like it was shot
yesterday. Film stock from that era has a look to it that's best
described as "dated." I remember I went to the 20th Anniversary of
"Star Wars," which was digitally enhanced, and I was surprised by how
old the movie looked.

The thing about DVDs and video is they actually make old movies look
better.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

>
> We are at the theater waiting for the 5PM showing. Tim madd it to
> New York as did Helen & her daughter, both of whom dressed as
> Apes. More after the film.

How I envy you all! I've never in my life managed to catch "Planet of the Apes" in a
cinema.

The last and only other time when I *might* have been able to see it on the big screen
was in 1982 when I learned a few weeks after the fact that "Planet of the Apes" had been
on the films shown late Saturday mornings as part of a Monroe, Louisiana summer kids
Saturday-cinema series.

Sadly, "Planet of the Apes" is the only Apes film I haven't seen on the big screen yet.

*However,* with the grand opening of the new local film center just a few weeks away,
I'm a bit more inspired than ever to campaign for an entire "Go Ape" POTA marathon.
(8=:]

The DVD is sharper and has a better color balance. One of the advantages of digital media is that they can do those fixes a lot cheaper.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> The thing about DVDs and video is they actually make old movies look
> better.
>
> -- Rory
>

Great pix,please post more.it looked like a great time,what was the
reaction from people in street and theatre?i was supposed to go
unfortunately had to work last minute .im so disappointed really wanted
to come in and meet everyone,plus i see others came in costume wouldnt
have felt out of place at all. if anyone else has photos please post
goapebilly

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Greetings from Ziegfeldman:

 

Thank you to all members for your warmth and friendliness. Yes, I really hadn't seen the movie in 40 years, but prepared by watching it several times this week. Seeing POTA on the Ziegfeld screen with such an enthusiastic group is really why I do what I do there whenever they show Classics.

 

For those who couldn't make it, here's my introduction--Thanks again to all, especially for my own rediscovery of such a fabulous film.

 

Best,

 

Gary

 

Good Evening, and welcome to a very special Anniversary screening in our Classics Series at The Ziegfeld. Many of you have traveled far to be here tonight, possibly even light years, and I especially want to thank you and those who took the time to e-mail me this week with your thoughts on this very special film.

 

1. Now, there are good movies and there are great movies.

 

2. Good movies are entertaining and have something to say, but great movies additionally SAY SOMETHING WHICH IS TIMELESS. Such films are classics.

 

3. Not having seen " Planet of the Apes" in forty years, I remembered it as a good movie, but not a classic, so I figured that with reverence to this film's worldwide admirers, I better take another look.

 

4. I started with Charlton Heston who, in his autobiography said "The film has a philosophical point to make. Taylor is a cynical misanthrope, so disenchanted with his fellow man that perhaps, unconsciously, he's exiled himself from Earth, launched through time to an unknown future. The crash of his spaceship strands him in a civilization where he finds himself the sole defender of Homo sapiens as a species."

 

5. Interesting premise, I thought, with a nice twist-kind of part "Twilight Zone" and part H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine."  Now the question-GOOD or GREAT?

 

6. So, I watched the movie, again, and again and I read my e-mails, GRADUALLY OPENING MY "Bright Eyes" AND FINDING Questions with NO EASY ANSWERS.

Questions about:

 

RACIAL STEREOTYPING

 

RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISM

 

TOLERANCE AND IGNORANCE

 

SOCIAL CASTES

 

THE USES OF SCIENCE AND ANIMAL EXPERIMENTATION

 

CREATIONISM VS. EVOLUTION

 

THE USES OF TORTURE AND HUMILIATION   AND   FINALLY,

 

QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE VERY NATURE OF HUMANITY ITSELF

 

ANY OF THESE ISSUES SOUNDING A LITTLE FAMILIAR?

I HAVE A FEELING THAT LIGHT YEARS FROM NOW, SOME FUTURE CIVILIZATION WILL BE ENJOYING THE FILM, ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS ,  AND STILL FEELING THE ANGUISH AT TAYLOR 'S FINAL WORDS AND REVELATION. "PLANET OF THE APES" IS A CLASSIC!

 

FINALLY,  LET'S REMEMBER THIS IS A GREAT ADVENTURE AND A LOT OF FUN.

 

.THANKS FOR COMING AND WHEN YOU LEAVE TONIGHT SAY A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR CHARLTON HESTON AND FOR HUMANITY

 

 

 

In a message dated 3/30/2008 7:33:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, goapebilly@... writes:

Great pix,please post more.it looked like a great time,what was the
reaction from people in street and theatre?i was supposed to go
unfortunately had to work last minute .im so disappointed really wanted
to come in and meet everyone,plus i see others came in costume wouldnt
have felt out of place at all. if anyone else has photos please post
goapebilly

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> I've create a folder in the Photos section called 'Ziegfeld' and posted
> a few photos from yesterday:

Thanks, James! But where are the group photos? We need to see
everyone from here who was there....

Hunter

> For those who couldn't make it, here's my introduction--Thanks again to all,
> especially for my own rediscovery of such a fabulous film.

Thanks for posting it, Gary!

Hunter

It was a thrill and treat to be at the NY City Ziegfeld Theater last night to see the original POTA on the BIG screen with Killer surround sound.  It is a shame the POTA remake from Tim Burton did not re-kindle the franchise. 

Why doesn't the Sci-Fi channel turn the POTA franchise into a weekly TV series or four, 2 hour movies per season?  I guess they prefer to be a joke to the public by making the cheap CGI monster movies of the week that remind one of the silly pre-1958 Sci-fi movies.

Mark



GDJ1231@... wrote:

Greetings from Ziegfeldman:

 

Thank you to all members for your warmth and friendliness. Yes, I really hadn't seen the movie in 40 years, but prepared by watching it several times this week. Seeing POTA on the Ziegfeld screen with such an enthusiastic group is really why I do what I do there whenever they show Classics.

 

For those who couldn't make it, here's my introduction- -Thanks again to all, especially for my own rediscovery of such a fabulous film.

 

Best,

 

Gary

 

Good Evening, and welcome to a very special Anniversary screening in our Classics Series at The Ziegfeld. Many of you have traveled far to be here tonight, possibly even light years, and I especially want to thank you and those who took the time to e-mail me this week with your thoughts on this very special film.

 

1. Now, there are good movies and there are great movies.

 

2. Good movies are entertaining and have something to say, but great movies additionally SAY SOMETHING WHICH IS TIMELESS. Such films are classics.

 

3. Not having seen “ Planet of the Apes” in forty years, I remembered it as a good movie, but not a classic, so I figured that with reverence to this film’s worldwide admirers, I better take another look.

 

4. I started with Charlton Heston who, in his autobiography said “The film has a philosophical point to make. Taylor is a cynical misanthrope, so disenchanted with his fellow man that perhaps, unconsciously, he’s exiled himself from Earth, launched through time to an unknown future. The crash of his spaceship strands him in a civilization where he finds himself the sole defender of Homo sapiens as a species.”

 

5. Interesting premise, I thought, with a nice twist-kind of part “Twilight Zone” and part H.G. Wells’ “The Time Machine.”  Now the question-GOOD or GREAT?

 

6. So, I watched the movie, again, and again and I read my e-mails, GRADUALLY OPENING MY “Bright Eyes” AND FINDING Questions with NO EASY ANSWERS.

Questions about:

 

RACIAL STEREOTYPING

 

RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISM

 

TOLERANCE AND IGNORANCE

 

SOCIAL CASTES

 

THE USES OF SCIENCE AND ANIMAL EXPERIMENTATION

 

CREATIONISM VS. EVOLUTION

 

THE USES OF TORTURE AND HUMILIATION   AND   FINALLY,

 

QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE VERY NATURE OF HUMANITY ITSELF

 

ANY OF THESE ISSUES SOUNDING A LITTLE FAMILIAR?

I HAVE A FEELING THAT LIGHT YEARS FROM NOW, SOME FUTURE CIVILIZATION WILL BE ENJOYING THE FILM, ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS ,  AND STILL FEELING THE ANGUISH AT TAYLOR ’S FINAL WORDS AND REVELATION. “PLANET OF THE APES” IS A CLASSIC!

 

FINALLY,  LET’S REMEMBER THIS IS A GREAT ADVENTURE AND A LOT OF FUN.

 

.THANKS FOR COMING AND WHEN YOU LEAVE TONIGHT SAY A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR CHARLTON HESTON AND FOR HUMANITY

 

 

 

In a message dated 3/30/2008 7:33:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, goapebilly@aol. com writes:

Great pix,please post more.it looked like a great time,what was the
reaction from people in street and theatre?i was supposed to go
unfortunately had to work last minute .im so disappointed really wanted
to come in and meet everyone,plus i see others came in costume wouldnt
have felt out of place at all. if anyone else has photos please post
goapebilly

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Hunter,

As you know several of the members who attended last night have outstanding criminal warrants. So in the interest of their protection, we cannot publish their photographs ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > I've create a folder in the Photos section called 'Ziegfeld' and posted
> > a few photos from yesterday:
>
> Thanks, James! But where are the group photos? We need to see
> everyone from here who was there....
>
> Hunter
>

We're back safely.

More later.

AWESOME!!! Thank, guys! WE had a double blast.

Helen

Mark Koziol <expandingmarkk1964@...> wrote:

 It is a shame the POTA remake from Tim Burton did not re-kindle the franchise. 

 

*** But you also have to remember this: Had the franchise been re-kindled, it would have been in the mold of the Burton thing. I really doubt that they would have done a 180 and said "Okay, now let's make the next one in the style of the '68 film".

Even if you're not just talking about a film franchise and you meant the APES name as a whole, more than likely it too would have been done in a Burtonesque style. I can't see it being otherwise, not for the "mainstream" sstuff anyway. ***

Why doesn't the Sci-Fi channel turn the POTA franchise into a weekly TV series or four, 2 hour movies per season? 

 

*** I agree, this would be a good idea "if" the films were well done. But I wouldntwantThe Sci-Fi Channel (or anyone) doing an APES project just for the sake of doing it with no thought of the content. And, I wouldn't want to see any old story done with talking apes in place of humans (or robots, or whatever) just for the sake of calling it APES. ***

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I think Helen got the only group photo...!

Tim
--- Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> > I've create a folder in the Photos section called
> 'Ziegfeld' and posted
> > a few photos from yesterday:
>
> Thanks, James! But where are the group photos? We
> need to see
> everyone from here who was there....
>
> Hunter
>

________________________

I just added a few more! the best shots I
got......Tried to get that last shot to get the
feeling of it seen on the screen but that was
difficult!

Helen and her daughter Amanda ROCKED the town! Loved
the reactions as we made our way from Grand
Central....to the restaurant.....past the "film sites"
Radio City, the library and the Cathedral.......into
the lobby ....

the dad of a family of five sitting behind us at
Friday's was explaining to his kids all about the
films...."and then there was a TV series and even a
cartoon!"...

Had a great time...well worth the trip.....slept most
of today though!
Great to meet everyone.....!

Tim


--- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

> I've create a folder in the Photos section called
> 'Ziegfeld' and posted
> a few photos from yesterday:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew>
>
>

________________________

Heeheeheehee...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I think Helen got the only group photo...!
>
> Tim
> --- Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > > I've create a folder in the Photos section called
> > 'Ziegfeld' and posted
> > > a few photos from yesterday:
> >
> > Thanks, James! But where are the group photos? We
> > need to see
> > everyone from here who was there....
> >
> > Hunter
> >
>
>
>
>
________________________

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

>
> I just added a few more! the best shots I
> got......Tried to get that last shot to get the
> feeling of it seen on the screen but that was
> difficult!
>
> Helen and her daughter Amanda ROCKED the town! Loved
> the reactions as we made our way from Grand
> Central....to the restaurant.....past the "film sites"
> Radio City, the library and the Cathedral.......into
> the lobby ....
>
> the dad of a family of five sitting behind us at
> Friday's was explaining to his kids all about the
> films...."and then there was a TV series and even a
> cartoon!"...
>
> Had a great time...well worth the trip.....slept most
> of today though!
> Great to meet everyone.....!
>
> Tim
>
>
> --- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> > I've create a folder in the Photos section called
> > 'Ziegfeld' and posted
> > a few photos from yesterday:
> > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew
> > <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

_________

Thanks, Tim.

WE ALL rocked the town! What a great group we have here. It was an
awesome day!

(((Group Hug!)))

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I just added a few more! the best shots I
> got......Tried to get that last shot to get the
> feeling of it seen on the screen but that was
> difficult!
>
> Helen and her daughter Amanda ROCKED the town! Loved
> the reactions as we made our way from Grand
> Central....to the restaurant.....past the "film sites"
> Radio City, the library and the Cathedral.......into
> the lobby ....
>
> the dad of a family of five sitting behind us at
> Friday's was explaining to his kids all about the
> films...."and then there was a TV series and even a
> cartoon!"...
>
> Had a great time...well worth the trip.....slept most
> of today though!
> Great to meet everyone.....!
>
> Tim
>
>
> --- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> > I've create a folder in the Photos section called
> > 'Ziegfeld' and posted
> > a few photos from yesterday:
> > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew
> > <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
________________________

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "juswannaknit" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

>
>
> Gosh how EXCITING! I really wish I could have been there. What a
> fantastic idea to wear costumes. Was it difficult to eat with the
> costumes on, I wonder? Someday!!!! I would really love to be in
> costume.
>
> Jessica.
>

Hi Jessica! It's nice to have a chance to meet you. We had a hard
time deciding whether or not to wear the costumes, mostly because of
the food. We were going to go from plate to plate and pinch things
from the others, but we didn't think that would be sanitary. (They
are humans, after all.)

We ate French fries and drank from straws. Then we watched each other
to see that there weren't grease marks and spills on the faces.

One day I would LOVE to have real appliances with glue and latex and
the whole deal. But I was just glad for the chance to dress up as
Apes once again and go out on the town.

It's a riot! I hope you get the chance.

Helen

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>>Thanks, James! But where are the group photos? We need to

see
everyone from here who was there.... <<

>>As you know several of the members who attended last night

have
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Seeing it on the big screen does make a difference. I noticed a lot of little things I never had before, like Dodge wearing a what looks like a gold college ring right up to the hunt sequence.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was going to mention the same thing Dave. The 8PM crowd was definitely
> little more enthusiastic than the 5PM one. Both "Get your stinking paws
> off me..." and "It's a madhouse!!" drew rounds of applause, as did the
> 20th Century Fox logo at the beginning. And it really is cool how you see
> so much more of the set design and art direction on the big screen. Like
> we both mentioned last night, I never realized that there was a water
> fountain in the infirmary, or drainage paths set in the floor.
>
>

On 3/30/08, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Seeing it on the big screen does make a difference. I noticed a lot of little things I never had before, like Dodge wearing a what looks like a gold college ring right up to the hunt sequence.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I was going to mention the same thing Dave. The 8PM crowd was definitely
> little more enthusiastic than the 5PM one. Both "Get your stinking paws
> off me..." and "It's a madhouse!!" drew rounds of applause, as did the
> 20th Century Fox logo at the beginning. And it really is cool how you see
> so much more of the set design and art direction on the big screen. Like
> we both mentioned last night, I never realized that there was a water
> fountain in the infirmary, or drainage paths set in the floor.
>
>

every time I see it I see something different! The
major thing I saw yesterday was the glyphs on
"Marcus'" bandolier...the gorilla talking to Zaius at
the cage......

also it looked like there was a Dr. Galen double in
the background of a later cell scene that was wearing
a pull over mask....

Roddy's performance REALLY comes across on the screen
as well....the audience loved what he was
doing...especially "Touchy, isn't he" and the look on
his face when Taylor is describing his trek through
the forbidden zone....! and Julius's perfomance
too.....

Tim

--- Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

> "David Giwner" <bikergator25@...> wrote:
>
> "I was with James today. I stayed for the 8pm
> showing as well as the 5pm.
> The crowd was a little more livelier for the 8pm. I
> thought the audio was
> great and the print was pretty good.
> We watched the 5pm in the back. For the 8pm we sat
> closer to the
> screen... You could see the sweat beating off
> Heston....
> Seeing the movie on the big screen was great. I
> noticed things I have not
> seen before.... "
>
>
> I was going to mention the same thing Dave. The 8PM
> crowd was definitely
> little more enthusiastic than the 5PM one. Both "Get
> your stinking paws
> off me..." and "It's a madhouse!!" drew rounds of
> applause, as did the
> 20th Century Fox logo at the beginning. And it
> really is cool how you see
> so much more of the set design and art direction on
> the big screen. Like
> we both mentioned last night, I never realized that
> there was a water
> fountain in the infirmary, or drainage paths set in
> the floor.
>
>
>
> "Hunter Goatley" <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> >>Thanks, James! But where are the group photos? We
> need to see
> everyone from here who was there.... <<
>
>
> "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> >>As you know several of the members who attended
> last night have
> outstanding criminal warrants. So in the interest of
> their protection,
> we cannot publish their photographs ;-) <<
>
>
> My jacket made it into a couple of the photos
> (here's a hint: Minnesota
> Vikings), but I think my identity as a fleeing felon
> will remain safe.
> Can't say for sure who the other arm belongs to
> though in the 'On the way
> to the Ziegfeld' photo though...
>
>
> Chris L.

________________________

I was just looking at those wonderful photos in the Group Pix - Helen and Amanda - you are awesome !  I was in NYC last weekend - saw James Naughton do cabaret show at NJ Performing Arts Center - and it cost enough just to stay over for one night.  If it had been last weekend I probably would have gone to the theatre to be with you all.  I saw Planet of the Apes on the big screen - and I would love to see it again 40 years later.  I think its wonderful when group members can get together, especially for Apes.

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I also noticed that right before the astronauts get to
the waterfall they are down to two backpacks....Landon
carries it first then Dodge.....it must have been
Dodge's cause the geiger counter is dropped by the
pond...


--- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

>
> Seeing it on the big screen does make a difference.
> I noticed a lot of
> little things I never had before, like Dodge wearing
> a what looks like a
> gold college ring right up to the hunt sequence.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless
> <lawford42@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I was going to mention the same thing Dave. The
> 8PM crowd was
> definitely
> > little more enthusiastic than the 5PM one. Both
> "Get your stinking
> paws
> > off me..." and "It's a madhouse!!" drew rounds of
> applause, as did the
> > 20th Century Fox logo at the beginning. And it
> really is cool how you
> see
> > so much more of the set design and art direction
> on the big screen.
> Like
> > we both mentioned last night, I never realized
> that there was a water
> > fountain in the infirmary, or drainage paths set
> in the floor.
> >
> >
>
>
>

________________________

It's funny that you are all referring to our first spot in the theater
as "the back." We sort of thought it was pretty close to the front.
It was great that you were all willing to move back a bit for the
first movie, and cool too that we saw it from different perspectives
for the second showing.

From the upper "balconyish" area, we kept elbowing each other and
saying "Look at that. Did you know that was there?"

There is a bunch of humans that we hadn't seen before on the left hand
side of the screen. There are some artifacts in the museum that were
interesting. The "claw" was still unidentifiable in my opinion, but we
did get a great view of it. There is a lawgiver statue in Zaius's
office that I didn't know wss there, but there is also a chimp figure.
WHAT IS THAT DOING THERE?

I agree with Tim. I definitely felt the performances better on the
big screen. I would include Lucius in this, too. I really felt his
youth and his lines didn't seem as canned. (Corn, maybe yes, but
fresh, not canned.) ;)

Never having been to an actual full-screen movie (since the theaters
around here are all hacked into at least two screens), Amanda LOVED
sitting WAY BACK raised above the heads of all the other viewers to
see the whole picture! I have to admit, my old eyes worked better
from this perspective.

Although I know to some of you this this part is AWFUL -- I just want
to say I REALLY enjoyed the see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil
piece. It was the first time that Amanda had noticed it before.

In general, seeing the movie twice in one sitting was cool, and
watching in a wide open theater on the big screen really sucked me in.

Too long. Gotta go.

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>

> Roddy's performance REALLY comes across on the screen
> as well....the audience loved what he was
> doing...especially "Touchy, isn't he" and the look on
> his face when Taylor is describing his trek through
> the forbidden zone....! and Julius's perfomance
> too.....
>
> Tim

Oh yeah...

I have to add that having worn a mask for quite a space of time before
and during the movie, I was very focussed on the faces of the actors.
It was fun to watch their faces move (or not), express emotion (or
not), and all that face related stuff. Some actors were very good at
it. Some actually weren't.

And costumes? Many, many were glyphless. Chimps more than orangs.
And... we noticed that Zira had many different colored outfits. I
don't believe it was just the lighting. maybe someone here is
familiar with wardrobe, but I always believed she had one. It seems
that she had at least three (or one that was washed and faded more
than once).

Oh, and Taylor was wearing what appeared to be boxers in the first
scene and briefs in the next. Did he have a change of shorts in his
pack? Just curious.

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>

>
> also it looked like there was a Dr. Galen double in
> the background of a later cell scene that was wearing
> a pull over mask....
>

Rory,

Although I see no way that they could have edited out flaws from the
movie, since there were none, I do want to say that I have followed
your posts about flaws in the past and think that you will find some
of them still remain in the picture.

I can't know for sure, because I don't have freeze frame, and
certainly didn't have it here, but the glowing blip that was supposed
to be a helicopter (plane, maybe) is still there. I tried to see a
blip of the shoe, but couldn't catch it any better here than I ever
did in the home video. But a few of the little thingies (floaters)
that I see at home (especially in the beginning) were still in the
Ziegfeld version.

Anyway, you might see differently, but it seems stuff that I knew
about is pretty much the same as it was.

Helen

Oh, I know all the flaws. I just wonder if they're in the original
negative or some master dupe that Fox still uses.

Anyway, I should be watching PLANET at the Ziegfeld in about 24 hours.
It's supposed to rain in NYC when I'm there. I hope it's not too cold,
but that's probably how it was 40 years ago!

I won't be dressed as an ape, but I will be wearing a t-shirt with the
classic Fox logo on it.

I wish I could have been there Saturday when you and your daughter were
there, Helen. But, I still have going there to look forward to.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 6:56 pm
Subject: [pota] FLAWS????!!!! NO WAY!!



Rory,



Although I see no way that they could have edited out flaws from the

movie, since there were none, I do want to say that I have followed

your posts about flaws in the past and think that you will find some

of them still remain in the picture.



I can't know for sure, because I don't have freeze frame, and

certainly didn't have it here, but the glowing blip that was supposed

to be a helicopter (plane, maybe) is still there. I tried to see a

blip of the shoe, but couldn't catch it any better here than I ever

did in the home video. But a few of the little thingies (floaters)

that I see at home (especially in the beginning) were still in the

Ziegfeld version.



Anyway, you might see differently, but it seems stuff that I knew

about is pretty much the same as it was.



Helen

"Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

The major thing I saw yesterday was the glyphs on
"Marcus'" bandolier...the gorilla talking to Zaius at
the cage......

*** That gorilla is actually The Hunt Leader, not Marcus.

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ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

I have to add that having worn a mask for quite a space of time before
and during the movie, I was very focused on the faces of the actors.
It was fun to watch their faces move (or not), express emotion (or
not), and all that face related stuff. Some actors were very good at
it. Some actually weren't.

*** Which brings up this point: Roddy moved his face too much. He was great in the roles, but he did over-do the facial moving. A small nose twitch here and there would have sufficed. Watch the other apes, none of them do it as obviously as Mc Dowall. I prefer their more subtle approach(es).

 

By the time of the TV series, the way he had Galen's face moving almost non-stop, you could think he was having facial spasms. I mean moving of the whole forehead was just overkill. ***

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Thanks, Judy. It's good to meet you. It's too bad you weren't able
to make it.

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Judy Watson <bettabeedee@...> wrote:
>
> I was just looking at those wonderful photos in the Group Pix -
Helen and Amanda - you are awesome ! I was in NYC last weekend - saw
James Naughton do cabaret show at NJ Performing Arts Center - and it
cost enough just to stay over for one night. If it had been last
weekend I probably would have gone to the theatre to be with you all.
I saw Planet of the Apes on the big screen - and I would love to see
it again 40 years later. I think its wonderful when group members can
get together, especially for Apes.
>
> ---------------------------------
> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of
Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
>

I thought Roddy's facial movements were great except for one scene.
When he is reading Taylor's note and he says "Fort Wayne, Indiana",
the movements don't match what he says, and looks really fake. I
think he really mastered it as the series moved along, though.

Jeff (RedSpy)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
> I have to add that having worn a mask for quite a space of time
before
> and during the movie, I was very focused on the faces of the actors.
> It was fun to watch their faces move (or not), express emotion (or
> not), and all that face related stuff. Some actors were very good at
> it. Some actually weren't.
>
> *** Which brings up this point: Roddy moved his face too much. He
was great in the roles, but he did over-do the facial moving. A small
nose twitch here and there would have sufficed. Watch the other apes,
none of them do it as obviously as Mc Dowall. I prefer their more
subtle approach(es).
>
> By the time of the TV series, the way he had Galen's face moving
almost non-stop, you could think he was having facial spasms. I mean
moving of the whole forehead was just overkill. ***
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! users/friends: Get A Month of
Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t
>

-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 5:23 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Live from the Ziegfeld

*** Which brings up this point: Roddy moved his face too much. He was
great in the roles, but he did over-do the facial moving. A small nose
twitch here and there would have sufficed. Watch the other apes, none
of them do it as obviously as Mc Dowall. I prefer their more subtle
approach(es).

He was at his best in the original, but by the last film and the TV
series there was no Frank Schaffner around to tell him to tone it down.

-- Rory

Jeff <RedSpy13@...> wrote:

I thought Roddy's facial movements were great except for one scene.
When he is reading Taylor's note and he says "Fort Wayne, Indiana",
the movements don't match what he says, and looks really fake. I
think he really mastered it as the series moved along, though.

*** As far as the bit with "Fort Wayne, Indiana", I agree with you there. But that's really not a case of his face moving around too much. It's more like the lack of lip motion throwing it off.

 

But, as far as him mastering it as the series went along, I totally disagree with you there. It got too be way out of hand by the TV series. Rory is right in that McDowall was pretty good with it in PLANET, but as the series went on, it became too much.

 

If being the only ape that had facial epilepsy was wrong, Roddy didn't wanna be right.

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