--- On Fri, 4/18/08, apereporter <apereporter@...> wrote:

> From: apereporter <apereporter@...>
> Subject: [pota] POTA Toy & memorabilia collectiors
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 18, 2008, 10:28 PM
> Hey guys, I'm trying to find some information on some of
> the biggest
> collectors of Planet of the Apes memorabilia & toys.
> Supposedly there
> are a few people that have near complete collections of all
> the
> goodies released around '74, ranging from the Mego
> figures to POTA
> trash cans and banks.
>
> I'm hoping to talk to a few of the major collectors and
> ask them a few
> questions for a story. Does anyone have the names &
> email addresses
> of any major collectors? Drop me an email -
> apereporter@...
>
> Thanks.
> -G


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----- Original Message -----

From: apereporter

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:28 PM

Subject: [pota] POTA Toy & memorabilia collectiors

Hey guys, I'm trying to find some information on some of the biggest
collectors of Planet of the Apes memorabilia & toys. Supposedly there
are a few people that have near complete collections of all the
goodies released around '74, ranging from the Mego figures to POTA
trash cans and banks.

I'm hoping to talk to a few of the major collectors and ask them a few
questions for a story. Does anyone have the names & email addresses
of any major collectors? Drop me an email - apereporter@ yahoo.com

Thanks.
-G

>
> Hey guys, I'm trying to find some information on some of the biggest
> collectors of Planet of the Apes memorabilia & toys. Supposedly there
> are a few people that have near complete collections of all the
> goodies released around '74, ranging from the Mego figures to POTA
> trash cans and banks.
>
> I'm hoping to talk to a few of the major collectors and ask them a few
> questions for a story. Does anyone have the names & email addresses
> of any major collectors? Drop me an email - apereporter@...
>
> Thanks.
> -G
>

>>What exactly are you talking about? I thought the 5.1 remix on the

>>The sound effects from BENEATH need to be restored to what

>>While I was visiting Joe Russo, he told me he'd just gotten an

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a contact e-mail for this company? I'd like to send them
the
> information about correcting the BENEATH sound EFX.
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
>
> >>While I was visiting Joe Russo, he told me he'd just gotten an
email
> from a video production company that Fox hires to do their DVD
extras.
> It seems some executive at Fox, at the last minute, has decided
that
> the studio might as well put ALL the five original APES movies out
on
> Blu-ray at the same time, AND that the release date for this is
> tentatively scheduled for October 2008! <<
>

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 7:16 PM, m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:

Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:

Question...

 

Couldn't this be the paradox Timeline thing <for lack of a better term?>

 

I.E. Ape History was changed at the point Zira and Cornelius entered Taylor's time in Escape POTA in Taylor's Starship, and thus altered the future of apes and humans- giving us Caesar instead of Aldo speaking first and giving the future of Apes and Humans a chance instead of the apoclypyic fate that happened at the end of Beneath POTA...

*** Yes, and that's more or less what I've said for a long time. The arrival of the Ape-onauts sets an entirely new timeline into being.

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Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and

>
>
> My room is that complete as yours but i'm getting there.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 9:09 am
> Subject: Re: [pota] POTA Toy & memorabilia collectiors
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> I've got quite a bit of stuff! a whole room full! see pics
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> Tim
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> --- On Fri, 4/18/08, apereporter <apereporter@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: apereporter <apereporter@...>
>
> > Subject: [pota] POTA Toy & memorabilia collectiors
>
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Date: Friday, April 18, 2008, 10:28 PM
>
> > Hey guys, I'm trying to find some information on some of
>
> > the biggest
>
> > collectors of Planet of the Apes memorabilia & toys.
>
> > Supposedly there
>
> > are a few people that have near complete collections of all
>
> > the
>
> > goodies released around '74, ranging from the Mego
>
> > figures to POTA
>
> > trash cans and banks.
>
> >
>
> > I'm hoping to talk to a few of the major collectors and
>
> > ask them a few
>
> > questions for a story. Does anyone have the names &
>
> > email addresses
>
> > of any major collectors? Drop me an email -
>
> > apereporter@...
>
> >
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > -G
>
>
>
>

I too would rather have Fox dig up all the promotional stuff on APES that you mention.  That's what really should be on the DVDs -- all the trailers and TV and radio spots and such.  A segment of the Carol Burnett show really has nothing to do with the movies.

 

*** I agree with this alright...

 

I mean sure some people might like the novel idea of seeing Roddy made up as an ape interacting with Carol Burnette (and singing too) but as Rory said, it has nothing to do with the films.

 

I'd  rather have even one more promotional spot or better yet, the radio spots than to see McDowall on a variety show. Now Kim and Roddy on THE TONIGHT SHOW to promote ESCAPE would be worth seeing, but seeing something like the APES spoof on SONNY AND CHER is something I could live without for sure... Leave that kind of stuff for the RARITIES projects. I know FOX won't do anything like that, but I'm just saying something like Hunter's projects are where the lame goofy stuff belongs. FOX product needs authentic APES material above anything else.

 

The only TV shows/clips that would be worth including that are NOT directly related to promoting the film, etc. would be something like Phil Donahue where they actually show the make-up process and talk to the makeup people...

 

If it comes to seeing Paul Williams as a guest in his Virgil appliances or seeing even one different 30 second spot, I'd pick the 30 second spot.

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That is great Tim. Thanks. I've added the link in the group's Links Section.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> SOmeone set images from the film to the Simpsons show....kinda funny....especially at "you'll never make a monkey out of me...."
>
> http://www.jibjab.com/view/238633
>
> Tim
>
>
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> know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
>

Just an FYI. The segment of the Carol Burnett show with Roddy is available on the Group Website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/R&C.htm as well as the mirror site: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/R&C.htm 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Haristas@... wrote: I too would rather have Fox dig up all the promotional stuff on APES that you mention. That's what really should be on the DVDs -- all the trailers and TV and radio spots and such. A segment of the Carol Burnett show really has nothing to do with the movies.
>

You should take a look at the collections of some of our members: http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/8570 & http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/6722 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apereporter" <apereporter@...> wrote:
>
> Hey guys, I'm trying to find some information on some of the biggest
> collectors of Planet of the Apes memorabilia & toys. Supposedly there
> are a few people that have near complete collections of all the
> goodies released around '74, ranging from the Mego figures to POTA
> trash cans and banks.
>
> I'm hoping to talk to a few of the major collectors and ask them a few
> questions for a story. Does anyone have the names & email addresses
> of any major collectors? Drop me an email - apereporter@...
>
> Thanks.
> -G
>

> This includes obscure production stills, contact sheets, autographs,
> comics, rare foreign brochures, 1970s clippings, memorabilia and
> other stuff that I hope you will all enjoy.

>
> > This includes obscure production stills, contact sheets, autographs,
> > comics, rare foreign brochures, 1970s clippings, memorabilia and
> > other stuff that I hope you will all enjoy.
>
> I'll be hosting a lot of them, but I haven't had time to set them up
> yet. Soon....
>
> Thanks, Mark!
>
> Hunter

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Assisted by the considerable talents of Mr. Dave Ballard, I am
> attempting to share my 25 year old collection of APES stills with
> several of our favourite "home" sites, including this one.
>
> This includes obscure production stills, contact sheets,
autographs,
> comics, rare foreign brochures, 1970s clippings, memorabilia and
> other stuff that I hope you will all enjoy.
>
> As there's quite alot of them, I'm sending the images to Dave on CD
> and asking him to distribute across the fan network sites as he
sees
> fit.
>
> He told me that there are some images even HE hasn't yet seen, so I
> hope there will be some surprises for you all.
>
> More to follow in the next few weeks.
>
> I'm sitting at home with a broken leg at the moment, bored to
tears,
> so I thought I'd scan in my collection of the UK lobby cards.
> Obviously many of you will have seen these, but this is just the
> start.
>
> Photos/MTB_UK_Lobby_Cards
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Mark T-B
>
> Mar
>

>
> Thanks! The lobby cards were great & I am looking foward to seeing
> what Hunter hosts on his page.
>
>

>
> Thanks! The lobby cards were great & I am looking foward to seeing
> what Hunter hosts on his page.
>

--- On Wed, 4/23/08, sparkytb2005 <sparkytb@...> wrote:

> From: sparkytb2005 <sparkytb@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: New rare POTA stills
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2008, 4:28 PM
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley
> <goathunter@...> wrote:
> >
> > > This includes obscure production stills, contact
> sheets, autographs,
> > > comics, rare foreign brochures, 1970s clippings,
> memorabilia and
> > > other stuff that I hope you will all enjoy.
> >
> > I'll be hosting a lot of them, but I haven't
> had time to set them up
> > yet. Soon....
> >
> > Thanks, Mark!
> >
> > Hunter
>
>
> -- And Hunter, thanks to YOU as well. In fact, nearly all
> of the
> accolades should go to Ballard (hard tech work and
> distribution), and
> you and others for hosting.
>
> All I had to do was press 'SCAN'. (A monkey could
> do it!)
>
> Not saying that every image is going to make you all go
> "WOW", but I
> hope that there's enough newness and obscurity to
> interest even the
> most hardened fan.
>
> Anyway, enjoy! More coming in May.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark T-B.


________________________

>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Assisted by the considerable talents of Mr. Dave Ballard, I am
> attempting to share my 25 year old collection of APES stills with
> several of our favourite "home" sites, including this one.

>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Assisted by the considerable talents of Mr. Dave Ballard, I am
> attempting to share my 25 year old collection of APES stills with
> several of our favourite "home" sites, including this one.
>
> This includes obscure production stills, contact sheets,

> comics, rare foreign brochures, 1970s clippings, memorabilia and
> other stuff that I hope you will all enjoy.
>
> As there's quite alot of them, I'm sending the images to Dave on CD
> and asking him to distribute across the fan network sites as he

> fit.
>
> He told me that there are some images even HE hasn't yet seen, so I
> hope there will be some surprises for you all.
>
> More to follow in the next few weeks.
>
> I'm sitting at home with a broken leg at the moment, bored to

> so I thought I'd scan in my collection of the UK lobby cards.
> Obviously many of you will have seen these, but this is just the
> start.
>
> Photos/MTB_UK_Lobby_Cards
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Mark T-B
>
> Mar
>

>
> In the best traditions of Ape sharing--well done that man and much
> appreciated.Sorry about the broken leg, but we had to find some way
> to make you share this stuff.Why don't you watch the escape scene at
> the end of The Interrogation to take your mind off it? John, Scrolls.
> >

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@... wrote:
>
>
> Since Apes is an Iconic series, why stop at just one stamp? I'd
suggest:
>
> 1 The Statue of Liberty
>
> 2 Taylor's Ship in the Water
>
> 3 Cornelius, Zira and Baby Milo (the Escape Poster)
>
> 4 Ape Protestors from Beneath
>
> 5 Zaius and Urko
>
> 6 Ceasar standing before the Flames
>
> 7 The Lawgiver (either the statue or John Huston's portrayal)
>
> 8 Apes threatening Breck
>
> 9 Planet Poster
>
> 10 Beneath Poster
>
> 11 Escape Poster
>
> 12 Conquest Poster
>
> 13 Battle Poster
>
> 14 The Alpha/Omega Bomb
>
> 15 PLANET OF THE APES in that cool font. (anyone have this font?)
>
>
>
> Those are just off the top of my head. Another idea could of course
be great moments in SF stamps, which Apes could certainly be part of.
Here's fifteen ideas just for that:
>
>
>
> 1 - Cruiser C-57D from Forbidden Planet
>
> 2 - The Statue of Liberty from Apes
>
> 3 - Klattu and Gort from Day the Earth Stood Still
>
> 4 - The Discovery from 2001
>
> 5 - The Valley Forge from Silent Running
>
> 6 - Robby the Robot from Forbidden Planet
>
> 7 - The THEM! Poster
>
> 8 - Godzilla (from the original)
>
> 9 - The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms
>
> 10 - A Scene from Robinson Crusoe on Mars (perhaps Paul Mantee
treking across the Martian Landscape?)
>
> 11 - A Martian War Machine from the 1953 WOTW (and the only one I
acknowledge)
>
> 12 - The Ark from When Worlds Collide
>
> 13 - The Luna from Destination Moon
>
> 14 - A pod from Invasion of the Body Snatchers
>
> 15 - A Xenomorph from It Came From Outer Space
>
>
>
> Again, these are just right off the top of my head, but it is a
complete sheet of stamps.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haristas@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:15 am
> Subject: [POTA] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
>
> How about a 40th anniversary POTA US stamp of the scene of the
ruined Statue of Liberty?? How do we start a petition for that?
>
__________

If anyone really wants a POTA themed stamp, the Stamps.com allows you to design your own postage stamp.

It's only $2.99 for a sheet of 20, not including the cost of postage.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "juswannaknit" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I love this idea a lot!! I would love to see POTA stamps. Why do
> they churn out crap like stamps from USPS featuring American Idol
> winners? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24072225/
>
> I don't get it...
>
> Jessica.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, frohike60@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Since Apes is an Iconic series, why stop at just one stamp? I'd
> suggest:
> >
> > 1 The Statue of Liberty
> >
> > 2 Taylor's Ship in the Water
> >
> > 3 Cornelius, Zira and Baby Milo (the Escape Poster)
> >
> > 4 Ape Protestors from Beneath
> >
> > 5 Zaius and Urko
> >
> > 6 Ceasar standing before the Flames
> >
> > 7 The Lawgiver (either the statue or John Huston's portrayal)
> >
> > 8 Apes threatening Breck
> >
> > 9 Planet Poster
> >
> > 10 Beneath Poster
> >
> > 11 Escape Poster
> >
> > 12 Conquest Poster
> >
> > 13 Battle Poster
> >
> > 14 The Alpha/Omega Bomb
> >
> > 15 PLANET OF THE APES in that cool font. (anyone have this font?)
> >
> >
> >
> > Those are just off the top of my head. Another idea could of course
> be great moments in SF stamps, which Apes could certainly be part of.
> Here's fifteen ideas just for that:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1 - Cruiser C-57D from Forbidden Planet
> >
> > 2 - The Statue of Liberty from Apes
> >
> > 3 - Klattu and Gort from Day the Earth Stood Still
> >
> > 4 - The Discovery from 2001
> >
> > 5 - The Valley Forge from Silent Running
> >
> > 6 - Robby the Robot from Forbidden Planet
> >
> > 7 - The THEM! Poster
> >
> > 8 - Godzilla (from the original)
> >
> > 9 - The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms
> >
> > 10 - A Scene from Robinson Crusoe on Mars (perhaps Paul Mantee
> treking across the Martian Landscape?)
> >
> > 11 - A Martian War Machine from the 1953 WOTW (and the only one I
> acknowledge)
> >
> > 12 - The Ark from When Worlds Collide
> >
> > 13 - The Luna from Destination Moon
> >
> > 14 - A pod from Invasion of the Body Snatchers
> >
> > 15 - A Xenomorph from It Came From Outer Space
> >
> >
> >
> > Again, these are just right off the top of my head, but it is a
> complete sheet of stamps.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Haristas@
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:15 am
> > Subject: [POTA] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
> >
> > How about a 40th anniversary POTA US stamp of the scene of the
> ruined Statue of Liberty?? How do we start a petition for that?
> >
> __________> __
> > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's
> free from AOL at AOL.com.
> >
>

I found an easy way to bypass the THX intros. On the DVD menu screen just hit "Stop" and then "Play" and it goes right to the film. On the Legacy editions you don't have to wait for the menu to come up. You can do it as soon as the anti-piracy message starts.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> And while I'm on the subject, what's with the THX intros before each of the sequels? Does      > THX even mean that much anymore? I find those damn things very irritating.
>

Bob DeLellis, President

20th Century Fox Home Entertainment

2121 Avenue Of The Stars 25th Fl.

Los Angeles, CA 90028

Telephone: 310-369-3900

Fax: 310-369-3318

E-Mail: feedback@...

E-Mail: webmaster@...

Web Site: http://www.tcfhe.com

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a contact e-mail for this company? I'd like to send them the
> information about correcting the BENEATH sound EFX.
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Haristas@..." Haristas@... wrote:
>
> >>While I was visiting Joe Russo, he told me he'd just gotten an email
> from a video production company that Fox hires to do their DVD extras.
> It seems some executive at Fox, at the last minute, has decided that
> the studio might as well put ALL the five original APES movies out on
> Blu-ray at the same time, AND that the release date for this is
> tentatively scheduled for October 2008! <<
>

> > "Haristas@" Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> > >>While I was visiting Joe Russo, he told me he'd just gotten an

> > from a video production company that Fox hires to do their DVD

> > It seems some executive at Fox, at the last minute, has decided that
> > the studio might as well put ALL the five original APES movies out

> > Blu-ray at the same time, AND that the release date for this is
> > tentatively scheduled for October 2008! <<

I believe that is why it is called a paradox or more specifically a 'Predestination Paradox' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_paradox

Or to quote the Doctor: "You fools! You're caught in a time loop!"

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@...> wrote:
>
> This from the piece on ESCAPE:
>
> Continuity Boo-Boos: The entire story sets up one of
> those "Terminator" paradoxes where the future creates itself by
> venturing into the past and jumpstarting the events that lead to
> apocalypse. Cornelius and Zira's child, Milo, who becomes the
> protagonist of the next two movies, eventually frees the apes from
> their slavery and later leads them in a war against the mutated
> remains of humanity. In short, he gives birth to the planet of the
> apes that, in turn, gives birth to him. But if Cornelius and Zira
> create the talking apes, how did the talking apes appear before
> Cornelius and Zira traveled back through time to create them? File
> all of this under "Things You're Really Not Supposed to Think About
> While Watching 'Escape From the Planet of the Apes.'"
>
> Time Paradox? Or just dramatic convenience? Personally I think
> Virgil explained it all quite reasonably in BATTLE. ("motorways")
>
> Discuss?
>
> Patrick -- where are you when we need you?
>
> Fun.
>
> Mark T-B
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> The scenes where the three mutants were gunned down by orders of General
> Ursus--they were seen running for cover in front of the Radio City marquee..

Question for Joe Russo, were these scenes ever shot?

>
>
> Of course, the scenes when our chimp friends were in the third spaceship,

There was no third ship, they were in Taylor's ship.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:

>
>
>
> I thought it was because on the "inhumanity" between Man & Man,
> Ape & Ape, Ape & Man, and the fragility of The Peace between them,
> i.e. if you don't learn from the past you're doomed to repeat it.
>

Exactly. That gives Battle a moral to end the entire series with.

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:03 AM, shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:

I was wondering if the TV Series trading cards by Topps were the first
real trading card phenomenon? I can recall back in 1974/5 that, in my
school, these cards WERE traded, stolen, fought over and every shop
sold out, with no prospect in those days of early re-supply.In fact, my
first actual exposure to Apes might have been a trading card.Was it the
same in the US? Were there any earlier examples of such a trading card
frenzy? I vaguely recall collecting the earlier Kung Fu cards but I
think I was the only one.I'm not sure that there's any other franchise
that is so intimately linked with its earlier,classic trading cards--I
know Star Wars was massive cards-wise, but the cards, although superb,
were only part of a massive merchandise behemoth, whereas for Apes, all
we really had at the time of the series were the cards, the comics and
some belatedly issued Megos.Those original tv series Topps cards were
our videos before video. John, Scrolls.

--
Best Regards,
Colin

"A person is smart. People are dangerous, panicky animals, and you know it." Tommy Lee Jones - Men in Black 1997

> Were there any earlier examples of such a trading card
> frenzy?

> Those original tv series Topps cards were
> our videos before video.

I was wondering if the TV Series trading cards by Topps were the first
real trading card phenomenon? I can recall back in 1974/5 that, in my
school, these cards WERE traded, stolen, fought over and every shop
sold out, with no prospect in those days of early re-supply.In fact, my
first actual exposure to Apes might have been a trading card.Was it the
same in the US? Were there any earlier examples of such a trading card
frenzy? I vaguely recall collecting the earlier Kung Fu cards but I
think I was the only one.I'm not sure that there's any other franchise
that is so intimately linked with its earlier,classic trading cards--I
know Star Wars was massive cards-wise, but the cards, although superb,
were only part of a massive merchandise behemoth, whereas for Apes, all
we really had at the time of the series were the cards, the comics and
some belatedly issued Megos.Those original tv series Topps cards were
our videos before video. John, Scrolls.

---

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I would call Baseball cards the first trading card phenomenon. And they've had Baseball cards since the 20's. But in the 60's I remember trading cards for the Batman TV series, Archie comics, the Beatles, James Bond movies, etc. But the Trading cards issued for the first film (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/OriginalCards.htm) was my first exposure to POTA.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if the TV Series trading cards by Topps were the first
> real trading card phenomenon? I can recall back in 1974/5 that, in my
> school, these cards WERE traded, stolen, fought over and every shop
> sold out, with no prospect in those days of early re-supply.In fact, my
> first actual exposure to Apes might have been a trading card.Was it the
> same in the US? Were there any earlier examples of such a trading card
> frenzy? I vaguely recall collecting the earlier Kung Fu cards but I
> think I was the only one.I'm not sure that there's any other franchise
> that is so intimately linked with its earlier,classic trading cards--I
> know Star Wars was massive cards-wise, but the cards, although superb,
> were only part of a massive merchandise behemoth, whereas for Apes, all
> we really had at the time of the series were the cards, the comics and
> some belatedly issued Megos.Those original tv series Topps cards were
> our videos before video. John, Scrolls.
>

I would call Baseball cards the first trading card phenomenon. And they've had Baseball cards since the 20's. But in the 60's I remember trading cards for the Batman TV series, Archie comics, the Beatles, James Bond movies, etc. But the Trading cards issued for the first film (http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ files/Misc. /Stuff/OriginalC ards.htm) was my first exposure to POTA.

James, do you mean that the trading cards were how you first heard of PLANET?  I found out about PLANET from a TV commercial in the afternoon, probably on the old WNEW Channel 5 or WPIX Channel 11 in New York.  It was a couple weeks after I saw the movie that some kid showed me a few cards in the school yard.  There were eight of them and I bought them off the kid.  I can recall how fast I started buying them, but by the time I went to see PLANET for a second time, I had a full deck of 44 that I took to the movie with me.  Eventually I bought some three hundred cards.  Still have them all.

Topps and other companies did many card sets back in those days (mid-sixties).  I remember there were Universal Monster cards, The Munsters, Rat Patrol, Man from U.N.C.L.E., James Bond.  Anything that was hot got a set of cards.  Red Spy Guy here can email you photos of many.

-- Rory

---

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> I would call Baseball cards the first trading card phenomenon. And
> they've had Baseball cards since the 20's. But in the 60's I
remember
> trading cards for the Batman TV series, Archie comics, the Beatles,
> James Bond movies, etc. But the Trading cards issued for the first
film
>
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/OriginalCards.ht
m
>
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/OriginalCards.ht
m>
> ) was my first exposure to POTA.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering if the TV Series trading cards by Topps were the
first
> > real trading card phenomenon? I can recall back in 1974/5 that,
in my
> > school, these cards WERE traded, stolen, fought over and every
shop
> > sold out, with no prospect in those days of early re-supply.In
fact,
> my
> > first actual exposure to Apes might have been a trading card.Was
it
> the
> > same in the US? Were there any earlier examples of such a trading
card
> > frenzy? I vaguely recall collecting the earlier Kung Fu cards but
I
> > think I was the only one.I'm not sure that there's any other
franchise
> > that is so intimately linked with its earlier,classic trading
cards--I
> > know Star Wars was massive cards-wise, but the cards, although
superb,
> > were only part of a massive merchandise behemoth, whereas for
Apes,
> all
> > we really had at the time of the series were the cards, the
comics and
> > some belatedly issued Megos.Those original tv series Topps cards
were
> > our videos before video. John, Scrolls.
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> The first trading card phenom I remember was the MARS ATTACKS
series in
> the very early 60's. They were off the shelves by the time I
started
> school (1965) but still being traded in class. Next came the POTA
movie
> cards in 1969.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shanter2002 <john@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:03 am
> Subject: [pota] Trading Card Memories
>
>
>
> I was wondering if the TV Series trading cards by Topps were the
first
>
> real trading card phenomenon? I can recall back in 1974/5 that, in
my
>
> school, these cards WERE traded, stolen, fought over and every shop
>
> sold out, with no prospect in those days of early re-supply.In
fact, my
>
> first actual exposure to Apes might have been a trading card.Was it
the
>
> same in the US? Were there any earlier examples of such a trading
card
>
> frenzy? I vaguely recall collecting the earlier Kung Fu cards but I
>
> think I was the only one.I'm not sure that there's any other
franchise
>
> that is so intimately linked with its earlier,classic trading cards-
-I
>
> know Star Wars was massive cards-wise, but the cards, although
superb,
>
> were only part of a massive merchandise behemoth, whereas for Apes,
all
>
> we really had at the time of the series were the cards, the comics
and
>
> some belatedly issued Megos.Those original tv series Topps cards
were
>
> our videos before video. John, Scrolls.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> The scenes where the three mutants were gunned down by orders of General
> Ursus--they were seen running for cover in front of the Radio City marquee..

Question for Joe Russo, were these scenes ever shot?

 

 

James, you know as well as I do that this alleged scene never happened, so why even go thru the bother of asking Joe about it? Asking about it just breeds an even harder imagined scenario... By that I mean with you asking anything about it, then it just makes it seem like you think he's right and the false memory will continue to grow on and on...

 

Although I will say that this scene, in addition to the scene where Ursus shoots a protestor will really make BENEATH all that much better for me... I just cannot wait to see those two scenes. Maybe they'll even go further into their archives and dig out the alternate killing of Brent with an arrow. Granted that was really just on the cover of the POWER records adaption, but I seen it on there so I know it had to have appeared in the film, right?

 

 
 
Of course, the scenes when our chimp friends were in the third spaceship,

There was no third ship, they were in Taylor's ship.

Exactly, and I cannot believe that people would believe otherwise.

>>Bob DeLellis, President

>>> Is there a contact e-mail for this company? I'd like to send

> information about correcting the BENEATH sound EFX.

>>I was working with FOX as a consultant for the POTA film back

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronhatter" <ronhatter@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, Im New on Here, I am A Huge Apes Fans, Im an Amature Make-up
> Artist, Mask Maker,Video Editor.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronhatter" <ronhatter@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, Im New on Here, I am A Huge Apes Fans, Im an Amature Make-up
> Artist, Mask Maker,Video Editor.
>

>
> Greetings, Ron. Welcome to the group. Feel free to chime in and get
> to know everybody. I for one hope you will share some photos of your
> makeup work. Always great to see the talents of other group members.
> There are other members of the group who are very talented
> artistically, so you should fit right in. Simian smiles and a big,
> hairy handshake to you.
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronhatter" <ronhatter@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, Im New on Here, I am A Huge Apes Fans, Im an Amature Make-

> > Artist, Mask Maker,Video Editor.
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: ronhatter

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:44 PM

Subject: [pota] New Here

Hello, Im New on Here, I am A Huge Apes Fans, Im an Amature Make-up
Artist, Mask Maker,Video Editor.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> This past Friday night on the American Life TV Network, James Gregory
> played an Irish mob boss in Mission: Impossible, and Roddy McDowall
was
> The Bookworm in Batman.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I would call Baseball cards the first trading card phenomenon. And

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James, do you mean that the trading cards were how you first heard

>
> Topps and other companies did many card sets back in those days

>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>

> McDowall blew Gregory up with a bomb under his car in an episode of
COLUMBO,
> I think from 1972.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>

Yup. At least as far as I can remember.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> James, do you mean that the trading cards were how you first heard of PLANET?? >
> -- Rory
>

Exactly and I was hoping that Joe could put an end to the debate.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
>
> James, you know as well as I do that this alleged scene never happened, so why even go thru the bother of asking Joe about it? Asking about it just breeds an even harder imagined scenario... By that I mean with you asking anything about it, then it just makes it seem like you think he's right and the false memory will continue to grow on and on...
>

Regular mail.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> OK, letters sent to both feedback@... and webmaster@... just
> came back as undeliverable. Any other options?
>
>
> Chris L.
>

Hey Ron, welcome to the group.

Please tell us more about yourself.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronhatter" <ronhatter@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, Im New on Here, I am A Huge Apes Fans, Im an Amature Make-up
> Artist, Mask Maker,Video Editor.
>

The Photos Section: http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronhatter" <ronhatter@...> wrote:
> >
> Where do I post My Photos at?
>

>
>
> Hey Ron, welcome to the group.
>
> Please tell us more about yourself.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronhatter" <ronhatter@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, Im New on Here, I am A Huge Apes Fans, Im an Amature Make-

> > Artist, Mask Maker,Video Editor.
> >
>

Hello Hunter and Greg Plonowski,
Rob Kimmer here. I havent posted since I changed jobs about two
years ago. However, I wanted to again express my extreme thanks to
Hunter for the awesome BATTLE dvd that he made a few years ago (the
one off jap laserdisc). I watched it again last night with a friend
and enjoyed the heck out of it. It was her 1st POTA movie (other
than the remake, whcih she found so-so), adn she really enjoyed it.
She especially liked the apes clever battle tactics (playing dead),
as well as the tears on Caesar's statue. However, she was distracted
by the ape make-up, which she said did not move very much (I never
noticed, LOL).
Anyhow, am watching nothing but SF classics of the 70s this week, and
am struck by the strong POTA influence seen in a random sampling of
films from my collection:
OMEGA MAN - Heston stars in a film with Corrington screenplay
FANTASTIC PLANET - havent seen it in years (will watch it tonight),
but I seem to remember that it is a planet where humans are very low
on the scale.
KING KONG - have never seen this remake, but I know the basic premise
is man vs ape.

I miss being a part of the group, and have many happy memories of the
Brazilian comics and the Power Records converted to CD and the Values
audio adventure and those amazing "vintage" trading cards.

Regards,
Rob and the pitbulls

---

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I think it was at a local store but it was the greenback cards issued for the film. The woman that lived in the apartment downstairs from us worked as a secretary at FOX's offices in NY and brought home a full box of cards for us so we got the full set for free.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Well, where did you first see the Topps cards, and which ones were they?
>
>

I just want to point out that the DVD distributed by Hunter was done so for free to fans and was long before FOX issued the extended version as part of the Legacy box set release.

We urge all members who wish to see the extended version to purchase the current DVD release which is available at most stores as well as through Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E6ESDA/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brindlepit2002" <brindlepit2002@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Hunter and Greg Plonowski,
> Rob Kimmer here. I havent posted since I changed jobs about two
> years ago. However, I wanted to again express my extreme thanks to
> Hunter for the awesome BATTLE dvd that he made a few years ago (the
> one off jap laserdisc). I watched it again last night with a friend
> and enjoyed the heck out of it. It was her 1st POTA movie (other
> than the remake, whcih she found so-so), adn she really enjoyed it.
> She especially liked the apes clever battle tactics (playing dead),
> as well as the tears on Caesar's statue. However, she was distracted
> by the ape make-up, which she said did not move very much (I never
> noticed, LOL).
> Anyhow, am watching nothing but SF classics of the 70s this week, and
> am struck by the strong POTA influence seen in a random sampling of
> films from my collection:
> OMEGA MAN - Heston stars in a film with Corrington screenplay
> FANTASTIC PLANET - havent seen it in years (will watch it tonight),
> but I seem to remember that it is a planet where humans are very low
> on the scale.
> KING KONG - have never seen this remake, but I know the basic premise
> is man vs ape.
>
> I miss being a part of the group, and have many happy memories of the
> Brazilian comics and the Power Records converted to CD and the Values
> audio adventure and those amazing "vintage" trading cards.
>
> Regards,
> Rob and the pitbulls
>

Well good luck Ron. Nice to have you as a member of our group.

And thanks again for the pics: http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/dda7

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronhatter" <ronhatter@...> wrote:
>
>
> Well, lets see, As a Child I had seen at least the first 3 apes
> Films, and I knew What POTA was, But I didn't really get into it
> until I was 11 years old, it was Ape All Day hosted By Roddy Mcdowall,
> Ive Been a Tremendous Fan every since, I emidiatly Got into the Art
> of Makeup, by Shortly before I turned 13, I started working with
> Latex.
>
> I had wanted to be a Make-up Artist, But the Teens Years was
> Traumatic, I didn't get to Finish School, so My Grammer Skills are
> Pretty bad, I have Schizophrenia, I take alot of Pills for it, Ive
> been taking them since I was 15, Im almost 25 now.
> I don't Work in the Conventional sense, Alot of Complicated stuff, I
> do an ocassional Odd Job, But nothing that involves contact with
> People.
> Most of my Time is Spent Perfecting my Video editing Skills, I still
> do Makeup and masks, but not on a regular basis, I have a Re-Editing
> Project Im working on, so it takes up alot of my time, But I recently
> started thinking about A Story I never put on Paper, I recently
> Started Writing A Script For it, Ive Written a few other things,
> years ago, I have my own Film id like to make, but I Really want to
> Do a Fan Film, POTA has been around for 4 decades, I see Star Trek
> Fan Films, I see Star Wars Fan Films, but never any POTA Fan Films,
> only Spoofs.
>
> Im very limited to what I can do, especially as far as money goes,
> But I Want to Attempt to Tell a Story That Brings the First 5 Apes
> Films Full Circle, Literaly, But obviously It would have to be a Fan
> Film, Fox would never go for my concept.
>

>>That's strange. If you have a really HOT part of a mix often over

>>Anybody catch it this weekend? Stan's kid had a bunch of commie

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:10 PM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Well good luck Ron. Nice to have you as a member of our group.

And thanks again for the pics: http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/dda7

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronhatter" <ronhatter@...> wrote:
>
>

> Well, lets see, As a Child I had seen at least the first 3 apes
> Films, and I knew What POTA was, But I didn't really get into it
> until I was 11 years old, it was Ape All Day hosted By Roddy Mcdowall,
> Ive Been a Tremendous Fan every since, I emidiatly Got into the Art
> of Makeup, by Shortly before I turned 13, I started working with
> Latex.
>
> I had wanted to be a Make-up Artist, But the Teens Years was
> Traumatic, I didn't get to Finish School, so My Grammer Skills are
> Pretty bad, I have Schizophrenia, I take alot of Pills for it, Ive
> been taking them since I was 15, Im almost 25 now.
> I don't Work in the Conventional sense, Alot of Complicated stuff, I
> do an ocassional Odd Job, But nothing that involves contact with
> People.
> Most of my Time is Spent Perfecting my Video editing Skills, I still
> do Makeup and masks, but not on a regular basis, I have a Re-Editing
> Project Im working on, so it takes up alot of my time, But I recently
> started thinking about A Story I never put on Paper, I recently
> Started Writing A Script For it, Ive Written a few other things,
> years ago, I have my own Film id like to make, but I Really want to
> Do a Fan Film, POTA has been around for 4 decades, I see Star Trek
> Fan Films, I see Star Wars Fan Films, but never any POTA Fan Films,
> only Spoofs.
>
> Im very limited to what I can do, especially as far as money goes,
> But I Want to Attempt to Tell a Story That Brings the First 5 Apes
> Films Full Circle, Literaly, But obviously It would have to be a Fan
> Film, Fox would never go for my concept.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Lest we should forget, the Burton remake premiered at the
Zeigfeld. Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 2:55 PM
> Subject: [pota] Re: Ziegfeld
>
>
>
> Most revival houses in New York died out in the '80s thanks to
home video. There are only a few left and they seem to concentrate on
more artsy type films.
>
> Planet has been shown as part of the Bryant Park summer film
festival. But that is outside and usually a one night only affair on
a Monday.
>
> The Ziegfeld has always been a venue for major revivals. I've
seen Fantasia, Sparticus and Lawrence of Arabia there as well as more
current films like Casino Royale, the Star Wars prequels and the
Burton remake.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@> wrote:
> >
> > I find it amazing that its been so long since the two of you
have
> > seen it on the big screen. It is shown in Los Angeles it seems
every
> > two years somewhere. Aren't there revival houses across the
rest of
> > the country? I would think at least in New York or Chicago...
> >
> >
>

>
>
> In a message dated 4/26/2008 2:42:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> sparkytb@... writes:
>
> This was recommended on the F&F website, and was a fun read...
>
>
>
>
> This guy's Holes are full of holes.
> Of course Armando is not going to keep the baby's name Milo.
> He's trying to hide him! What? He's going to go for the in plain

> theory?

>
>
>
>
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