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Group: pota Message: 46712 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/28/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 46713 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Please help me.
Group: pota Message: 46714 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
Group: pota Message: 46715 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
Group: pota Message: 46716 From: grotowski666 Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Chimp Costume pattern
Group: pota Message: 46717 From: jessica rotich Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Chimp Costume pattern
Group: pota Message: 46718 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: More awesome scans from MTB
Group: pota Message: 46719 From: scott bosco Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
Group: pota Message: 46720 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
Group: pota Message: 46721 From: gp3085 Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
Group: pota Message: 46722 From: James Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: More awesome scans from MTB
Group: pota Message: 46723 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: More awesome scans from MTB
Group: pota Message: 46724 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: More awesome scans from MTB
Group: pota Message: 46725 From: Thrift Store Steve Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Sideshow Heads
Group: pota Message: 46726 From: Thrift Store Steve Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Ape Pics
Group: pota Message: 46727 From: m c Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: APE CHRONICLES (POTA 40th Anniversary issues)
Group: pota Message: 46728 From: jessica rotich Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
Group: pota Message: 46729 From: James Date: 5/30/2008
Subject: Cornelius' Journal
Group: pota Message: 46730 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/30/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
Group: pota Message: 46731 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 5/30/2008
Subject: Re: Chimp Costume pattern
Group: pota Message: 46732 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/31/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
Group: pota Message: 46733 From: Thrift Store Steve Date: 5/31/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
Group: pota Message: 46734 From: Thrift Store Steve Date: 5/31/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
Group: pota Message: 46735 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/31/2008
Subject: Heston films in LA
Group: pota Message: 46736 From: drhasslein Date: 5/31/2008
Subject: Re: Heston films in LA
Group: pota Message: 46737 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 46738 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Re: Heston films in LA
Group: pota Message: 46739 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
Group: pota Message: 46740 From: Karyl Miller Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
Group: pota Message: 46741 From: Dave B Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Apes in the media
Group: pota Message: 46742 From: Jeff Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
Group: pota Message: 46743 From: Thrift Store Steve Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
Group: pota Message: 46744 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: (OT) Blu-ray's immediate future
Group: pota Message: 46745 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/2/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
Group: pota Message: 46746 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/2/2008
Subject: Re: Heston films in LA
Group: pota Message: 46747 From: Jeff Date: 6/2/2008
Subject: Re: Chimp Costume pattern
Group: pota Message: 46748 From: ape_mom Date: 6/3/2008
Subject: OT: In today's Yahoo! News...
Group: pota Message: 46749 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 6/3/2008
Subject: Re: Chimp Costume pattern
Group: pota Message: 46750 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/3/2008
Subject: Re: Chimp Costume pattern
Group: pota Message: 46751 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/3/2008
Subject: Hasslein in Myrtle BEach
Group: pota Message: 46752 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 6/4/2008
Subject: Planet of the Apes APE CHRONICLES former subscribers current email a
Group: pota Message: 46753 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 6/4/2008
Subject: Need help from POTA fans to help design and upgrade the Fan Club Web
Group: pota Message: 46754 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/4/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 46755 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/5/2008
Subject: POTA onscreen in LA
Group: pota Message: 46756 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/5/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 46757 From: Colin Snow Date: 6/5/2008
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 46758 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Re: POTA onscreen in LA
Group: pota Message: 46759 From: drhasslein Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Re: POTA onscreen in LA
Group: pota Message: 46760 From: James Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Cornelius' Journal
Group: pota Message: 46762 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: POTA showing in NEW JERSEY
Group: pota Message: 46763 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Re: POTA showing in NEW JERSEY
Group: pota Message: 46765 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
Group: pota Message: 46766 From: James Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
Group: pota Message: 46767 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
Group: pota Message: 46768 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Battle for the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 1:30 pm
Group: pota Message: 46769 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
Group: pota Message: 46770 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Re: POTA showing in NEW JERSEY
Group: pota Message: 46771 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 46772 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
Group: pota Message: 46773 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/6/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 46774 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/8/2008
Subject: Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
Group: pota Message: 46775 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/9/2008
Subject: Gottfried on monkeys
Group: pota Message: 46776 From: oba_obado Date: 6/9/2008
Subject: apemum
Group: pota Message: 46777 From: scott bosco Date: 6/9/2008
Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
Group: pota Message: 46778 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/9/2008
Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
Group: pota Message: 46779 From: scott bosco Date: 6/9/2008
Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
Group: pota Message: 46780 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/9/2008
Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
Group: pota Message: 46781 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/9/2008
Subject: 1:6 scale, Virdon's outfit for TV series POTA
Group: pota Message: 46782 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: POTA onscreen in BOSTON this weekend!
Group: pota Message: 46783 From: m c Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Re: POTA onscreen in BOSTON this weekend!
Group: pota Message: 46784 From: Dave B Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
Group: pota Message: 46785 From: Lynne Miller Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Members Database.
Group: pota Message: 46786 From: grotowski666 Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Photo's I've never seen before!
Group: pota Message: 46787 From: James Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
Group: pota Message: 46788 From: Rob Reading Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: James Naughton Sculpt
Group: pota Message: 46789 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46790 From: ansanaut Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46791 From: James Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46792 From: Jeff Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
Group: pota Message: 46793 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
Group: pota Message: 46794 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46795 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Authorizing DVD menu chapters etc - Hunter ?
Group: pota Message: 46796 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46797 From: Dave B Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: Photo's I've never seen before!
Group: pota Message: 46798 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: Authorizing DVD menu chapters etc - Hunter ?
Group: pota Message: 46799 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46800 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46801 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46802 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46803 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: Photo's I've never seen before!
Group: pota Message: 46804 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: PLANET screening this Friday, Loew's Theatre Jersey City, NJ
Group: pota Message: 46805 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Use of Google Earth
Group: pota Message: 46806 From: James Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: Photo's I've never seen before!
Group: pota Message: 46807 From: James Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET screening this Friday, Loew's Theatre Jersey City, NJ
Group: pota Message: 46808 From: ansanaut Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46809 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46810 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46811 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 46812 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: mash
Group: pota Message: 46813 From: Mike M Date: 6/11/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found



Group: pota Message: 46712 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/28/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Group: pota Message: 46713 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Please help me.
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REALLY excellent work !!! YOu have quite a cast! love the Escape Zira and Cornelius!

Tim


--- On Wed, 5/28/08, angelofmusic2112 <angelofmusic2112@...> wrote:

> From: angelofmusic2112 <angelofmusic2112@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Please help me.
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 10:34 PM
> Ape fans! I'm trying to get an idea just how much resin
> I should be
> buying for the 1/6 resin head sculpt of Galen.
>
> Please let me know if you are interested in this getting
> this
> sculpt. I will buying the required resin next week and
> I'm trying to
> plan accordingly. I thank you, in advance, for your
> antipcated
> reply.
>
> You can see pictures of Galen all painted up with his
> Sideshow Body
> by clicking on PHOTOS in the left hand column and going
> into the
> PHOTO ALBUM of AngelofMusic2112.
>
> If you're interested in gettint this GALEN sculpt,
> please send me an
> e-mail indicating that you're interested in getting a
> resin sculpt of
> Galen.
>
>
>
> Many Thanx
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich"
> <jessicarotich@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, that be him...Robert Patrick, until I upgrade him
> to Burke.
> When I
> > complete the figure, I will post him, since the
> Sideshow version of
> Burke
> > does not exist.
> >
> > JBK, some of the items on your wishlist have already
> been
> sculpted. Just
> > ask around. I don't have the inventory of what
> 1:6 commissioned
> head
> > sculpts have been done, but I wish I did. I would
> like to have an
> > inventory/list and right next to the name I would like
> a small
> photograph
> > for reference as well as who did the sculpting, and
> who owns the
> figure.
> >
> > And again, thank you to everyone who helped with this
> project.
> >
> > Jessica.
> >
> > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:27 PM, John Brandon Kirtley
> <
> > johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
> >
> > > That's great news. I want Galen, Alan and
> Pete.......and Lisa
> and
> > > little Cornelius.......and Virgil and
> Aldo......and Urko and TV
> > > Zaius........And Dr Galen and
> Armando.......Governor
> Breck....Landon and
> > > Dodge......Julius and Lucius.....on and on and on
> and on..
> > >
> > > Well done all.
> > >
> > > JBK
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > *From:* jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
> > > *To:* pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Sent:* 28 May 2008 04:30
> > > *Subject:* Re: [pota] Please help me.
> > >
> > > I want to formally announce that James Naughton
> won Ms. Ada
> Chan's poll.
> > >
> > >
> > > I want to thank those that have sent an e-mail to
> Ms. Ada Chan to
> ask her
> > > to sculpt James Naughton for free. I cannot
> begin to explain how
> much this
> > > means to me. Thank you for helping our cause.
> You have not only
> saved us
> > > fanatics $230, but you have helped strengthen
> this bond I have
> with my
> > > fellow ape brethren. Thank you all from the
> bottom of my heart.
> When casts
> > > of his sculpt are available for purchase, I will
> post another
> announcement.
> > >
> > > Jessica.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/27/08, jessica rotich
> <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The sculpts she sells are for 1:6 scale
> action figures. She
> also does 1:9
> > >> scale although she may do other scales but I
> am not familiar
> with any other
> > >> scales. I am attaching a photo of
> Sideshow's Brent and also
> reposting Ada
> > >> Chan's Brent sculpt and you can decide
> for yourself which figure
> looks more
> > >> accurate to James Franciscus.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
> action=view¤t=Brent_face.jpg
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
> action=view¤t=Benneath_CM-00150.jpg
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:37 PM, scott bosco
> <digitalcinema@...>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Jessica,
> > >>> Thank you posting the pic. I may be
> behind what's going on,
> but... I
> > >>> thought it would be bigger? Is this a
> head for an action
> figure?
> > >>> Also, are the others she's done more
> like the persons/apes she
> > >>> sculpting. The Brent looks more like the
> sideshow collectible
> than James
> > >>> Franciscus.
> > >>> - Scott B.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *jessica rotich
> <jessicarotich@...>* wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> There is no website, but I have a photo
> of the Brent that she
> recently
> > >>> did, and I don't think Chris Hight
> would mind if I posted it
> for him. Here
> > >>> is Brent:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
> action=view¤t=Benneath_CM-00150.jpg
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Sorry, I don't have photos of Armando
> from Conquest or for
> Virdon. Ada
> > >>> also sells on Ebay and rotates her stock
> but don't know her
> seller's ID.
> > >>> Perhaps somebody here knows.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jessica.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 5/27/08, scott bosco
> <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is there a website where these
> items can be ordered - and
> are there
> > >>>> pictures of what they look like?
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Scott B.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *rob reading <readingrob@...>*
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Burke won the vote. I personally
> will be buying 2, one
> painted and one
> > >>>> raw. I personally voted in order to
> carry out that wish, not
> just to prove a
> > >>>> point.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Rob R
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------
> > >>>> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > >>>> From: jessicarotich@...
> > >>>> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:20:03 -0700
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [pota] Please help me.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thank you everyone who sent an
> e-mail for Ada Chan to sculpt
> Burke.
> > >>>> It would be a dream come true and a
> minor victory if we as a
> group submitted
> > >>>> just one request to sway the results
> towards something Planet
> of the Apes
> > >>>> related. I am not buying the sculpt
> when it's made available
> for purchase
> > >>>> but I just wanted to rock the 1:6
> scale world if we could sway
> the votes for
> > >>>> Burke. People would be left
> scratching their heads wondering
> how in the
> > >>>> world this could have happened. I
> want to show them that
> Planet of the Apes
> > >>>> is alive and well!!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> To recap:
> > >>>> Virdon sculpt: done, available from
> member, Chris Hight
> > >>>> Brent sculpt by Ada Chan: done,
> available from member, Chris
> Hight
> > >>>> Armando sculpt by Ada Chan (from
> Conquest): done, available
> from
> > >>>> member, Angelofmusic2112
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks again,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jessica.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I believe the results will be posted
> by Ada Chan on May 29.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Here is the previous posting:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you can send her a request with
> this on the subject line:
> > >>>> Please sculpt James Naughton as Burke
> from the TV Series,
> Planet of the
> > >>>> Apes.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ms. Ada Chan resides in Hong Kong,
> and this is her e-mail
> address:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ada748623@...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/26/08, *Gelson Nicolini
> Monteiro* <gelsonnicolini@...>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I send like you talk.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2008/5/25, jessica rotich
> <jessicarotich@...>:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Chris Hight has Brent already
> sculpted by Ada, and if you
> ask him he
> > >>>> could make you a cast I am sure.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> He also has a cast of Ron Harper, but
> Ada did not sculpt him.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 5/25/08, *rob reading*
> <readingrob@...> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ada has already sculpted Brent and
> available on request.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Rob R
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------
> > >>>> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > >>>> From: aboro3085@...
> > >>>> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:55:56 -0700
> > >>>> Subject: RE: [pota] Please help me.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> **** Galen would be good as a stand
> alone piece/figure, but
> I don't
> > >>>> quite see how Burke (James Naughton)
> would work as a stand
> alone figure
> > >>>> without Virdon (Ron Harper).*
> > >>>> **
> > >>>> *I'd much rather see this artist
> create a decent likeness of
> James
> > >>>> Franciscus as Brent.* ***
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *rob reading <readingrob@...>*
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Chan Ada has said that she has no
> more than 20 votes for each
> of Burke,
> > >>>> Virdon or Galen.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please vote if you want this to
> happen.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Rob R
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------
> > >>>> To: pota@yahoogroups.com;
> PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > >>>> From: jessicarotich@...
> > >>>> Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:16:57 -0700
> > >>>> Subject: [pota] Please help me.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you can send an e-mail to Ms.
> Ada Chan, one of the best
> sculptors
> > >>>> of 1:6 scale heads, she will tally
> the e-mails she receives
> and sculpt for
> > >>>> free one celebrity (foregoing her
> $230 sculpting fee). I was
> hoping that I
> > >>>> could have enough people send her a
> request to sculpt James
> Naughton as
> > >>>> Burke from the TV Series, Planet of
> the Apes. I know it will
> be impossible
> > >>>> to get enough people to request this
> celebrity, but I am
> hoping for the
> > >>>> best. If you can send her a request
> with this on the subject
> line:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please sculpt James Naughton as Burke
> from the TV Series,
> Planet of the
> > >>>> Apes.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ms. Ada Chan resides in Hong Kong,
> and this is her e-mail
> address:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ada748623@...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I appreciate any help I can get.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jessica.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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Group: pota Message: 46714 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
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In a message dated 5/28/2008 9:43:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, aboro3085@... writes:
2) Will these Blu-ray players allow you to play a DVD-R/DVD+R?
 
That's why I may go with a modded player that will play anything.
May not be the way to go, but you can't know if you don't try.
 




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Group: pota Message: 46715 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
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As far as I know the Blu-rays will play anything (except HD-DVD). It's just that nothing else will play Blu-rays and most DVDs will eventually swsitch over to Blu-ray it seems.
 
 
Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 29 May 2008 8:41 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)

In a message dated 5/28/2008 9:43:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, aboro3085@yahoo. com writes:
2) Will these Blu-ray players allow you to play a DVD-R/DVD+R?
 
That's why I may go with a modded player that will play anything.
May not be the way to go, but you can't know if you don't try.
 




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Group: pota Message: 46716 From: grotowski666 Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Chimp Costume pattern
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Has any body got a copy of the chimp costume pattern? I am trying to
get a Roddy costume together and need a basic pattern?

Cheers

JBK
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Group: pota Message: 46717 From: jessica rotich Date: 5/29/2008
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JBK, There is a Jose in the group that did a fantastic chimp costume, and he sewed it himself.  I don't know where he is based.  Ask for him.  He was the one who submitted photos of Zira's bag, too I think. 
 
Jessica.

 
On 5/29/08, grotowski666 <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:

Has any body got a copy of the chimp costume pattern? I am trying to
get a Roddy costume together and need a basic pattern?

Cheers

JBK


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Group: pota Message: 46718 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: More awesome scans from MTB
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I've just finished adding a ton of new images to my PotA site.

* More awesome scans from Mark Talbot Butler! Updates to the
Apes Advertisements (TV Guide ads), more stills from all the movies,
and a ton of Lobby Cards for all five movies from the UK. Thanks to
Mark and Dave!


* Dean Preston contributed autographs from Sal Mineo, John
Chambers, and Don Taylor. They can be found on the Ape-ographs page.


https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 46719 From: scott bosco Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
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The newer Blu players will do all that you asked, but.... be sure and read the breakdown carefully.  The first ones released WOULD NOT.  SONY really blew it when they first rolled out those players. 
You have to be very careful with making a Blu player purchase.  There are a lot of features and improvments that the format allows, but NOT ALL players will do them.  Usually the more money you pay the more features are available.  I'm talking sound, and even ways to hook up your player to allow the most freedom to access thos special features.
If you don't have an HDMI hook up to your receiver for sound you might miss out on the best feature Hi-Def players have to offer.  HDMI can carry not only great picture quality but high quality sound that is uncompressed and goes beyond present DVD.  However, if you don't have a reciever with that HDMI input the only way you will get that sound is with regular rca/analog inputs.  But the problem is that not all Blu-players have 6.1 or 7.1 analog outputs. 
It's very frustrating that this format has be set up by the manufactures in such a slap shot way.  No doubt the regular joe who has an interest in upgrading might get put off when finally looking into it.  Once they realize that in order to get the most, or every possible plus out of the format they need to spend the top dollar it puts them off.  ... and truthfully after doing a test of a Blu player againt top of the line standard players with an upconverting receiver I found there isn't much difference.
Personally I have a Oppo.  It is a standard player that blows away a $1200. Denon I was testing.  The Oppo sells for under $200. and even plays PAL, Divix DVDRs too.
To push things further there is a receiver by Anthem that has pro-grade upsampling in terms of making a standard DVD look like HD.  I mixt that with the Oppo and it's hard for people to believe it's not HD.
I'm not against Blu, I'm just against the way it is over priced and too confusing for the consumer.  Not to mention the way the studios are ripping off the consumer with less than fully loaded releases.  The idea that MASTER AND COMMNADER was released on Blu little more than a trailers while its standard DVD edition is a two disc full of bonus materials and not sells for less than the Blu version is horrible.  It's bad enough some people out there purchased HD-DVD and now are stuck with it.  What happens if Blu continues along its path of high prices and lackluster bonus materials and doesn't grow out of the 7% saturation point?  Even if it doubles to 14% within the year how long can the studios continue to put money into a format that is so expensive to produce with such a growth rate?  I say, play it safe, and wait.  If anyone is going to plunk down $700 for a player is it really worth it for a release that may not have all the bonus features on a standard release at double the price.
Just be careful, do your research on all players to make sure you're getting all you pay for.
- Scott B.

m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:
*** Two questions regarding these Blu-ray players:
 
1) Won't they play a standard DVD the same way current DVD players play DVDs and CDs? (And along those same lines, will a Blu-ray play CDs?)
 
2) Will these Blu-ray players allow you to play a DVD-R/DVD+R?


Haristas@aol. com wrote:
In a message dated 5/27/2008 11:19:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, digitalcinema@ yahoo.com writes:
New market results have just come in and Blu-ray is bombing out
Well, we are in a recession right now, but the movie industry wants Blu-ray.  They need a new high definition DVD format to get everyone to buy their favorite movies -- all over again!
 
-- Rory




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Group: pota Message: 46720 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
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> Just be careful, do your research on all players to make sure
> you're getting all you pay for.

Seems like I remember reading recently that there's supposed to be an
update to the specs that will happen later this year, as well.
Existing players may or may not be upgradeable.

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 46721 From: gp3085 Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
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Profile 2.0 is the latest spec update. It mandates a full gigabyte
of local storage in the player, secondary video and audio decoders
for features like picture-in-picture and interactive audio, and an
internet connection. I recall that most current Blu-Ray players are
not upgradable to this profile. The Playstation 3 is one of the
exceptions. As far as I can tell, the Panasonic DMP-BD50 is the only
model released so far with Profile 2.0 right out of the box, and
that just came out this month with a list price of $699. There are
supposed to be more Profile 2.0 players out by the end of the year,
though. Hopefully at lower prices. I'm waiting for one of those. And
for something I really want to watch and own on disc in HD.

I'm pretty sure that all Blu-Ray players, even the early ones, were
backwards compatible and played regular DVDs, but I remember reading
that some of the early ones didn't play CDs. All of the newest ones
probably play DVDs and CDs and upconvert the DVDs to near-HD. Not
sure about DVD-Rs and DVD-RWs but I'd expect any name-brand player
to play those, too. You should absolutely check the specs of the
machine before you buy it, and test everything as soon as you get it
home and before you discard the box and packing materials.

I recorded HD versions of all the Apes films on my TiVo recently.
They were shown on Monsters HD, one of the Voom HD channels carried
by Cablevision (and formerly carried by Dish). I've only watched
Planet so far. I thought it looked amazing. I'm trying to work out
how do screen captures, and find time to watch the remaining four
films.

Greg P.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > Just be careful, do your research on all players to make sure
> > you're getting all you pay for.
>
> Seems like I remember reading recently that there's supposed to be
an
> update to the specs that will happen later this year, as well.
> Existing players may or may not be upgradeable.
>
> Hunter
>
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Group: pota Message: 46722 From: James Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: More awesome scans from MTB
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Hunter,

Thanks to you, Dave and of course Mark for getting this all together and sharing with everyone.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> I've just finished adding a ton of new images to my PotA site.
>
> * More awesome scans from Mark Talbot Butler! Updates to the
> Apes Advertisements (TV Guide ads), more stills from all the movies,
> and a ton of Lobby Cards for all five movies from the UK. Thanks to
> Mark and Dave!
>
>
> * Dean Preston contributed autographs from Sal Mineo, John
> Chambers, and Don Taylor. They can be found on the Ape-ographs page.
>
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Hunter
>

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Group: pota Message: 46723 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: More awesome scans from MTB
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EXCELLENT HUNTER!!!!

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:32 PM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Hunter,

Thanks to you, Dave and of course Mark for getting this all together and sharing with everyone.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> I've just finished adding a ton of new images to my PotA site.
>
> * More awesome scans from Mark Talbot Butler! Updates to the
> Apes Advertisements (TV Guide ads), more stills from all the movies,
> and a ton of Lobby Cards for all five movies from the UK. Thanks to
> Mark and Dave!
>
>
> * Dean Preston contributed autographs from Sal Mineo, John
> Chambers, and Don Taylor. They can be found on the Ape-ographs page.
>
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Hunter
>




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Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
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Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
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Group: pota Message: 46724 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Re: More awesome scans from MTB
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My thanks to all responsible as well...lots of APE candy for the eyes! Most of those photos I've never seen anywhere before.
 
Bruce
 
In a message dated 5/29/2008 3:34:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Hunter,

Thanks to you, Dave and of course Mark for getting this all together and sharing with everyone.


--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@. ..> wrote:
>
> I've just finished adding a ton of new images to my PotA site.
>
> * More awesome scans from Mark Talbot Butler! Updates to the
> Apes Advertisements (TV Guide ads), more stills from all the movies,
> and a ton of Lobby Cards for all five movies from the UK. Thanks to
> Mark and Dave!
>
>
> * Dean Preston contributed autographs from Sal Mineo, John
> Chambers, and Don Taylor. They can be found on the Ape-ographs page.
>
>
> https://pota. goatley.com/
>
> Hunter
>





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Group: pota Message: 46725 From: Thrift Store Steve Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Sideshow Heads
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Hi Everyone,

Just joined.
This is one Ape-tastic group!
I had a question about the sideshow 12" Ape heads.
I see from time to time on Ebay a sideshow ape head for sale.
Do the sideshow heads fit on a Hasbro type neck stem?
I'm very familiar w/ that style from messing around w/ GI Joe and
other assorted Hasbro 12" figures.

Thanks,

Steve
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Group: pota Message: 46726 From: Thrift Store Steve Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: Ape Pics
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Hi again,

I wanted to thank apefan23 for sending me over here!
If you have a minute.....Swing on over to my Ape pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8skeinsofdanger/sets/72157604250149610/

Steve
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Group: pota Message: 46727 From: m c Date: 5/29/2008
Subject: APE CHRONICLES (POTA 40th Anniversary issues)
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WIth all the talk lately of the probable release of all 5 films on Blu-ray (and more than likely standard DVD as well), plus the additional upcoming things like the EMCE Toys repros of the Soldier Ape and Cornelius, the possibility of new comics from Neil and Whitty, plus Rob's APES timeline book... I got to thinking that this year is turning out ok for APES items...

We have all of the above, plus we just received a new SIMIAN SCROLLS not too long ago, with another one coming later this summer/early fall... All this is leading up to is a question regarding one of the most (if not the most) hyped 40th Anniversary tie-ins, the five issues of APE CHRONICLES...

From what I understood, all five issues were set to go, so I'm wondering who (if anyone) has received their issues yet? If so, what is the content like? Is it all 40th Anniversary related features/articles, or is there more to them?

I know there were a few people on here who ordered them, and I'd really appreciate hearing their feedback... I know Foster was supposed to receive a set, and if I remember right PotAfan (sp?) was gonna get them too.. So anyone who received them, let's have a review...  Let your reviews of the 40th Anniversary issues of AC be the start of your reviews for all the new APES items we can look forward to this year...


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Group: pota Message: 46728 From: jessica rotich Date: 5/29/2008
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I have seen your photos, Steve. Welcome!!
 
Do you also knit?  I was wondering, because of your name, 8 Skeins of danger....
 
Jessica

 
On 5/29/08, Thrift Store Steve <droopymcccool@...> wrote:

Hi again,

I wanted to thank apefan23 for sending me over here!
If you have a minute.....Swing on over to my Ape pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8skeinsofdanger/sets/72157604250149610/

Steve


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Group: pota Message: 46729 From: James Date: 5/30/2008
Subject: Cornelius' Journal
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TGIF! Cornelius & Zira become political pawns in a power struggle between Dr. Zaius and General Ursus in the latest entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL

To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm

Have a great weekend everybody!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

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Group: pota Message: 46730 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/30/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-Ray players (was: MAJOR POTA NEWS)
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"I recorded HD versions of all the Apes films on my TiVo recently.
They were shown on Monsters HD, one of the Voom HD channels carried
by Cablevision (and formerly carried by Dish). I've only watched
Planet so far. I thought it looked amazing. I'm trying to work out
how do screen captures, and find time to watch the remaining four
films.

Greg P. "


Well, it looks like the PATTON Blu-ray looks really amazing:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews37/patton_blu-ray.htm

Let's just hope they do as good a job on PLANET.

-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 46731 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 5/30/2008
Subject: Re: Chimp Costume pattern
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Dear Jessica,
 
Thanks a lot. I will try that.
 
Hope you are well.
 
JBK
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 29 May 2008 14:42
Subject: Re: [pota] Chimp Costume pattern

JBK, There is a Jose in the group that did a fantastic chimp costume, and he sewed it himself.  I don't know where he is based.  Ask for him.  He was the one who submitted photos of Zira's bag, too I think. 
 
Jessica.

 
On 5/29/08, grotowski666 <johnbkirtley@ hotmail.com> wrote:

Has any body got a copy of the chimp costume pattern? I am trying to
get a Roddy costume together and need a basic pattern?

Cheers

JBK


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Group: pota Message: 46732 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/31/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
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Hey Steve! Welcome! Glad that Ursus I sent you is already finding work in your adventures!

Tim


--- On Thu, 5/29/08, Thrift Store Steve <droopymcccool@...> wrote:

> From: Thrift Store Steve <droopymcccool@...>
> Subject: [pota] Ape Pics
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 9:07 PM
> Hi again,
>
> I wanted to thank apefan23 for sending me over here!
> If you have a minute.....Swing on over to my Ape pics:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8skeinsofdanger/sets/72157604250149610/
>
> Steve
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Group: pota Message: 46733 From: Thrift Store Steve Date: 5/31/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
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Hi Jessica,

Thanks!
Yes, mostly sweaters for GI JOE.
But, maybe a new Ape Knit is just what I need!

Steve

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...>
wrote:
>
> I have seen your photos, Steve. Welcome!!
>
> Do you also knit? I was wondering, because of your name, 8 Skeins of
> danger....
>
> Jessica
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 46734 From: Thrift Store Steve Date: 5/31/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
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Tim,

Right on!
This is a great place to catch up on Ape Studies.

Steve


--

- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Steve! Welcome! Glad that Ursus I sent you is already finding
work in your adventures!
>
> Tim
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 46735 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/31/2008
Subject: Heston films in LA
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The Egyptian Theatre In Los Angeles will be showing Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments and El Cid on the big screen as a tribute to Chuck this weekend! Sadly no POTA ....

http://www.americancinematheque.com/archive1999/2008/Egyptian/CharltonHeston_2008.htm

Tim
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Group: pota Message: 46736 From: drhasslein Date: 5/31/2008
Subject: Re: Heston films in LA
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Tomorrow night there is a new 70mm print of Khartoum showing at its
sister theatre, the Aero. 5p.m.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> The Egyptian Theatre In Los Angeles will be showing Ben Hur, The Ten
Commandments and El Cid on the big screen as a tribute to Chuck this
weekend! Sadly no POTA ....
>
>
http://www.americancinematheque.com/archive1999/2008/Egyptian/CharltonHeston_2008.htm
>
> Tim
>
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Group: pota Message: 46737 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Poll results for pota
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The following pota poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: What is the most recent Home Video version of the all or any of the POTA films do you own?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- The 30th Anniversary VHS tapes (1998), 2 votes, 11.76%
- The CBS/FOX VHS tapes (1990), 0 votes, 0.00%
- The Playtime VHS tapes (mid-80s), 0 votes, 0.00%
- Japanese Lasardiscs (????), 0 votes, 0.00%
- Other, 2 votes, 11.76%
- The Ultimate/Legacy edition DVDs (2006), 10 votes, 58.82%
- The Evolution edition DVDs (2001), 3 votes, 17.65%

INDIVIDUAL VOTES
- The 30th Anniversary VHS tapes (1998)
- slaboogie@...
- chant1221@...
- The CBS/FOX VHS tapes (1990)
- The Playtime VHS tapes (mid-80s)
- Japanese Lasardiscs (????)
- Other
- josievan@...
- splotchypigg@...
- The Ultimate/Legacy edition DVDs (2006)
- apefan23@...
- drhasslein@...
- JamesA1102@...
- georgetaylorceko@...
- sniptrip@...
- digitalcinema@...
- robinartwork60@...
- jessicarotich@...
- fabrice51642000@...
- itybt1@...
- The Evolution edition DVDs (2001)
- stenosaurus@...
- jhs6119@...
- PofTAfan@...


For more information about this group, please visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota

For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html"
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Group: pota Message: 46738 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Re: Heston films in LA
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In a message dated 5/31/2008 10:19:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:
The Egyptian Theatre In Los Angeles will be showing Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments and El Cid on the big screen as a tribute to Chuck this weekend! Sadly no POTA ....

http://www.american cinematheque. com/archive1999/ 2008/Egyptian/ CharltonHeston_ 2008.htm

Tim
Anyone here planning on going to PLANET at the Jersey Theatre in New Jersey on June 13th?
 
-- Rory

 




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Group: pota Message: 46739 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
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Steve, that's how I started, with knitting and trying to find patterns...and then searching for POTA pictures on the internet led me to this wonderful world that I never knew existed.  Then I started customizing Planet of the Apes figures and now I'm so hooked.  That's what I try to do in my spare time. I have some photos of my work in Jessica's stuff folder in the photographs section.
 
Jessica

 
On 5/31/08, Thrift Store Steve <droopymcccool@...> wrote:

Tim,

Right on!
This is a great place to catch up on Ape Studies.

Steve

--

- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Steve! Welcome! Glad that Ursus I sent you is already finding
work in your adventures!
>
> Tim
>
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 46740 From: Karyl Miller Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
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Just went to your photo folder, and may I say, EXCELLENT! You are a mistress of miniature couture!

 

Are you gonna get the new action figures by EMCE toys that are coming out?

 

Hopefully, they will be better than the junk that is put out by certain other companies, who shall remain nameless, mostly because I don't wanna be accused of being biased.


 
Karyl Miller


----- Original Message ----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 12:28:14 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Ape Pics

Steve, that's how I started, with knitting and trying to find patterns...and then searching for POTA pictures on the internet led me to this wonderful world that I never knew existed.  Then I started customizing Planet of the Apes figures and now I'm so hooked.  That's what I try to do in my spare time. I have some photos of my work in Jessica's stuff folder in the photographs section.
 
Jessica

 
On 5/31/08, Thrift Store Steve <droopymcccool@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Tim,

Right on!
This is a great place to catch up on Ape Studies.

Steve

--

- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Steve! Welcome! Glad that Ursus I sent you is already finding
work in your adventures!
>
> Tim
>
>
>



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Group: pota Message: 46741 From: Dave B Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Apes in the media
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It's been a good month for APES in the British magazine market.

Of course, almost every single entertainment related publication
devoted some space to the passing on Charlton Heston - and rightly so.

The latest issue of 'Deathray' has a two page spread that is favorable
and refreshingly mistake-free. They say it 'Remains a classic slice of
cinematic SF, a genuinely great movie that has much to say. Of the
Burton remake they add " A disastrous, narratively incoherent movie
with a frankly nonsensical twist ending."

Perhaps the oddest reference to APES is in 'Total Film' who feature
the dinner scene from Burton's remake as the subject of their 'Moments
in movie history' monthly feature. I'm not sure what the actual
'moment' being celebrated was - maybe, after consigning the franchise
to the toilet it was when Fox finally pulled the flush?

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 46742 From: Jeff Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Pics
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Everyone should check out Jessica's costume work for her APES
miniature figures. Her work is awesome! I especially like the
burgundy/maroon "human" outfit Zira wore in ESCAPE. Jessica's
version of this outfit is absolutely amazing! If anyone else owns a
Zira figure, you should definitely talk to Jessica about possibly
making that outfit for your figure.

Jeff (RedSpy)


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Karyl Miller <gone2thebad@...> wrote:
>
> Just went to your photo folder, and may I say, EXCELLENT! You are a
mistress of miniature couture!
> Are you gonna get the new action figures by EMCE toys that are
coming out?
> Hopefully, they will be better than the junk that is put out by
certain other companies, who shall remain nameless, mostly because I
don't wanna be accused of being biased.
>
>
> Karyl Miller
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 12:28:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Ape Pics
>
>
> Steve, that's how I started, with knitting and trying to find
patterns...and then searching for POTA pictures on the internet led
me to this wonderful world that I never knew existed. Then I started
customizing Planet of the Apes figures and now I'm so hooked. That's
what I try to do in my spare time. I have some photos of my work in
Jessica's stuff folder in the photographs section.
>
> Jessica
>
>
> On 5/31/08, Thrift Store Steve <droopymcccool@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tim,
>
> Right on!
> This is a great place to catch up on Ape Studies.
>
> Steve
>
> --
>
> - In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Steve! Welcome! Glad that Ursus I sent you is already finding
> work in your adventures!
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
>
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Jessica!

Ape-tastic work!
Love the Ape City Outfitters bag.
It's the little things!

If you ever open up a Flickr account I would probably have comments
for each and every picture...not to mention there are an amazing
amount of picture groups you could post your work in.

The Zira Cape/Coat......Jaw dropping!!

Steve
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Group: pota Message: 46744 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/1/2008
Subject: (OT) Blu-ray's immediate future
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Blu-ray DVD format may not dominate for years

By RYAN NAKASHIMA,
AP
Posted: 2008-06-01 13:58:29
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Blu-ray stomped HD DVD to become the standard format for high-definition movie discs, but years may pass before it can claim victory over the good old DVD.

Noemi Velazquez, a 44-year-old warehouse worker, can explain why. She took one look at the $399 price tag of a Blu-ray player at a Best Buy  store in Glendale, Calif., and kept going.

"I have to admit, Blu-ray is great," she said. "(But) I'm going to wait until they go to half-price."

Analysts, movie studios and the Blu-ray Disc Association, a manufacturing group, all say Blu-ray discs will eventually dominate video sales. The question is when.

Consumers are balking at the $300-plus cost of most Blu-ray players especially because only limited movie titles are available in the format.

"People aren't going to pay three times as much for a platform that's only half-baked," said Steve Wilson, a consumer electronics analyst with ABI Research.

Many also are waiting to see how cable, satellite and online video services play out. But, above all, consumers seem satisfied with standard-definition DVDs and players - even consumers who upgrade to high-definition TVs that can tap into Blu-ray's sharper picture and clearer sound.

Velazquez said that because she was still paying off a $1,000 high-definition TV she bought in October, she was happy for now to keep watching pay-TV movies and standard-definition DVDs on it.

Sony Corp .-backed Blu-ray was crowned the next-generation video technology in February after Toshiba Corp., creator of the competing HD DVD format, abruptly said it would drop the fight. The move came after Warner Bros. decided to join most other studios by going solely with Blu-ray and video rental chains followed suit.

Manufacturers are planning a souped-up lineup of titles and special features on Blu-ray discs to boost sales this summer and during the coming Christmas season in the hope that Blu-ray can turn around the sagging home video market. And retailers are creating new displays to explain Blu-ray's benefits.

U.S. consumer spending on home video rentals and purchases in all formats, including DVD, HD DVD, Blu-ray and VHS, fell 3 percent to $24.1 billion last year. The figure was expected to drop another 2 percent this year to $23.6 billion, despite a sixfold increase in Blu-ray disc spending to $1.3 billion, according to Adams Media Research.

The Blu-ray increase is not enough to offset an expected 6 percent drop in overall spending on DVDs.

Adams says it could take two more years for Blu-ray sales to put the home video market back on a growth path.

"The group that bought $2,000, 40-inch TVs are the ones that will lead the charge," said Tom Adams, founder of the research firm. "Everyone else will come along when the price comes down."

To jump-start the changeover, studios are beginning to release movies in Blu-ray with enhanced bonus features like picture-in-picture director commentary. The new bells and whistles are meant to entice consumers to plop down as much as $10 extra for a Blu-ray disc compared with a standard DVD.

Blu-ray machine prices are starting to drop. Wal-Mart Stores  Inc. began stocking a $298 Magnavox model in mid-May, said spokeswoman Melissa O'Brien. That's cheaper than most alternatives but a hefty price hike from a typical $50 DVD player.

The format also faces sales challenges that DVDs did not when they took over from VHS in the late 1990s. It doesn't save any space compared with DVD, and there's no need to replace a DVD collection once you buy a Blu-ray player because it will play your old discs.

There also is a proliferation of direct-to-home offerings appearing on cable, satellite and the Internet that threaten to stop Blu-ray growth in its tracks. Blu-ray backers say, however, consumers prefer physical copies of movies over virtual ones, especially when some online rental services impose a time limit.

And Blu-ray's adoption curve is similar to - maybe even faster than - that of DVDs, backers say. Blu-ray players, now available for three years, cost $100 less than DVD players did at a comparable point in their life cycle, said Dorinda Marticorena, a senior vice president at Warner Home Video, a unit of Time Warner  Inc.

"DVD was exactly the same thing. Players were expensive and there were not many titles. Lo and behold, the awareness went up and demand went up," said Andy Parsons, chairman of the association's U.S. promotion committee. "It'll happen in good time."

Blu-ray still has a long, uphill climb. Last year, more than 101 million U.S. households could play DVDs, compared with 3.7 million that could play Blu-ray discs, including those with PlayStation 3 consoles, according to Adams.

But that's double the 1.6 million DVD devices that were in U.S. households in 1998, the comparable second year they were available. By the end of 2008, 14.4 million U.S. households are expected to be Blu-ray compatible, compared with the 9.4 U.S. million households that could play DVDs in year three.

Manufacturers and studios are preparing new offerings to take advantage of a feature known as BD Live, which allows access to enhanced Blu-ray bonus features over the Internet. It's available now on Sony's PlayStation 3 game consoles.

Lions Gate Entertainment Corp. added a BD Live clip-sharing function on its horror flick "Saw IV" and plans to have "Rambo" director Sylvester Stallone conduct an interactive exchange with viewers about his director's cut.

"It makes these discs almost alive," said Lions Gate President Steve Beeks.

The Walt Disney  Co. is set to rerelease the 1959 animated feature "Sleeping Beauty" in October in Blu-ray with chat, trivia and video-messaging functions, just as its rerelease of "Snow White" on DVD in 2000 introduced a then-revolutionary animated menu.

"'Snow White' made the mass market wake up to the potential of DVD and helped demystify the technology," said Bob Chapek, president of Walt Disney  Studios Home Entertainment Worldwide. "'Sleeping Beauty' on Blu-ray a decade later represents much the same thing."

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Group: pota Message: 46745 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/2/2008
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Thank you very much Steve, Jeff and Karyl.  I have a photobucket account where I keep most of this stuff.  I didn't want to inundate the group with my photos, so I just pick the ones I think would be most interesting to everyone.  I  probably won't get any of the EMCE toys coming out soon because I already have enough apes in the house (not including me, of course!).  I love tailoring the clothes for the action figures.  1:6 scale is definitely easier than 1:9 scale just because it's bigger, and most fabrics hang better with the larger scale.  I do both, time permitting.
 
In the 1:6 scale, I'm currently creating Burke outfits.  After that will be Virdon's outfit, some Escape Cornelius suits and some Conquest Armando outfits, so I am one very busy but happy monkey.
 
Jessica.

 
On 6/1/08, Thrift Store Steve <droopymcccool@...> wrote:

Jessica!

Ape-tastic work!
Love the Ape City Outfitters bag.
It's the little things!

If you ever open up a Flickr account I would probably have comments
for each and every picture...not to mention there are an amazing
amount of picture groups you could post your work in.

The Zira Cape/Coat......Jaw dropping!!

Steve


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Group: pota Message: 46746 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/2/2008
Subject: Re: Heston films in LA
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    Those movies were fine but a Heston tribute wouldn't be complete without showing POTA.
     
    Zach   
     
    -------Original Message-------
     
    Date: 6/1/2008 10:03:43 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Re: Heston films in LA
     

    In a message dated 5/31/2008 10:19:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@yahoo. com writes:
    The Egyptian Theatre In Los Angeles will be showing Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments and El Cid on the big screen as a tribute to Chuck this weekend! Sadly no POTA ....

    http://www.american cinematheque. com/archive1999/ 2008/Egyptian/ CharltonHeston_ 2008.htm

    Tim
    Anyone here planning on going to PLANET at the Jersey Theatre in New Jersey on June 13th?
     
    -- Rory

     




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    Group: pota Message: 46747 From: Jeff Date: 6/2/2008
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    Just thinking...If no one out there has a pattern for you, use one of the outfits from either Hasbro or sideshow, as a base.  I made my own for my gorillas and Zira.  But, if you take the costumes apart, trace the pieces, scan them, then you can project them (if you have a projector) on the wall on butcher paper.
     
    Jeff B
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:42 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Chimp Costume pattern

    JBK, There is a Jose in the group that did a fantastic chimp costume, and he sewed it himself.  I don't know where he is based.  Ask for him.  He was the one who submitted photos of Zira's bag, too I think. 
     
    Jessica.

     
    On 5/29/08, grotowski666 <johnbkirtley@ hotmail.com> wrote:

    Has any body got a copy of the chimp costume pattern? I am trying to
    get a Roddy costume together and need a basic pattern?

    Cheers

    JBK


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    Group: pota Message: 46748 From: ape_mom Date: 6/3/2008
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080603/ts_afp/healthcancerus

    So, what, you may ask, do Ted Kennedy and brain tumor vaccines have to
    do with ...Apes.

    Well, it is possible that one (or many) of Kelley's (the possible
    Little Milo actress) children were included in the testing for this
    vaccine.

    "The GBM is an aggressive cancer with a poor prognosis, brain
    specialist Mark Gilbert of the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Texas
    told reporters."

    Twenty-three humans have also been included in the studies.

    Helen
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    Group: pota Message: 46749 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 6/3/2008
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    That’s a good idea. I have all the material. Had to hunt down the correct colours etc. Have bought some ears and chimp shoes from Brian at Apemania. Just need to find a way of getting the costume made up. Might end up joining a class for sewing or dress making . I will try Jessica's idea and thanks for the contact. If that fails will try projecting the costume parts.
     
    Thanks everyone for your kindness. I have photos in the site of the make-up experiments. Will update as I get nearer a costume.
     
    My aim was to set up a channel on Youtube and do what the Trekkies and Galactica fans are doing and filming new bits. Maybe readings or go as far as scripted scenes who knows.
     
    I will set up the channel anyway and start gathering all the POTA material together from across the net.
     
    Hope you are all well.
     
    JBK
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Jeff
    Sent: 03 June 2008 04:19
    Subject: Re: [pota] Chimp Costume pattern

    Just thinking...If no one out there has a pattern for you, use one of the outfits from either Hasbro or sideshow, as a base.  I made my own for my gorillas and Zira.  But, if you take the costumes apart, trace the pieces, scan them, then you can project them (if you have a projector) on the wall on butcher paper.
     
    Jeff B
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:42 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Chimp Costume pattern

    JBK, There is a Jose in the group that did a fantastic chimp costume, and he sewed it himself.  I don't know where he is based.  Ask for him.  He was the one who submitted photos of Zira's bag, too I think. 
     
    Jessica.

     
    On 5/29/08, grotowski666 <johnbkirtley@ hotmail.com> wrote:

    Has any body got a copy of the chimp costume pattern? I am trying to
    get a Roddy costume together and need a basic pattern?

    Cheers

    JBK


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    Group: pota Message: 46750 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/3/2008
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    John, this is totally exciting.  I can't wait to see the end result. I live vicariously through the members here.  You will be pleasantly surprised that there is not much to sewing once you take a class.
     
    Jessica.

    On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:54 AM, John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:

    That's a good idea. I have all the material. Had to hunt down the correct colours etc. Have bought some ears and chimp shoes from Brian at Apemania. Just need to find a way of getting the costume made up. Might end up joining a class for sewing or dress making . I will try Jessica's idea and thanks for the contact. If that fails will try projecting the costume parts.
     
    Thanks everyone for your kindness. I have photos in the site of the make-up experiments. Will update as I get nearer a costume.
     
    My aim was to set up a channel on Youtube and do what the Trekkies and Galactica fans are doing and filming new bits. Maybe readings or go as far as scripted scenes who knows.
     
    I will set up the channel anyway and start gathering all the POTA material together from across the net.
     
    Hope you are all well.
     
    JBK
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Jeff
    Sent: 03 June 2008 04:19
    Subject: Re: [pota] Chimp Costume pattern

    Just thinking...If no one out there has a pattern for you, use one of the outfits from either Hasbro or sideshow, as a base.  I made my own for my gorillas and Zira.  But, if you take the costumes apart, trace the pieces, scan them, then you can project them (if you have a projector) on the wall on butcher paper.
     
    Jeff B
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:42 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Chimp Costume pattern

    JBK, There is a Jose in the group that did a fantastic chimp costume, and he sewed it himself.  I don't know where he is based.  Ask for him.  He was the one who submitted photos of Zira's bag, too I think. 
     
    Jessica.

     
    On 5/29/08, grotowski666 <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:

    Has any body got a copy of the chimp costume pattern? I am trying to
    get a Roddy costume together and need a basic pattern?

    Cheers

    JBK



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    Group: pota Message: 46751 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/3/2008
    Subject: Hasslein in Myrtle BEach
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    If anyone happens to be near Myrtle Beach South Carolina this weekend, stop by and tell Eric Braeden hello! I won't be able to get down there!

    http://sunfunfestival.com/

    Tim
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    Group: pota Message: 46752 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 6/4/2008
    Subject: Planet of the Apes APE CHRONICLES former subscribers current email a
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    I have been trying to make sure everyone who paid for issues in the past gets them
    but as my addresses for many people are outdated
    I am hoping that anyone on here that had purchased any issues in the past of
    Ape Chronicles would just write me and confirm their current email address
    as I had 55 emails so far bounce back to me today !!
    Everybody seems to change email addresses so frequently
    so its only logical for some people I have had on file for 10 years of course are not likely to
    have the same email address or even the same mailing address
    thanks
     
    Terry Hoknes
    PLANET OF THE APES FAN CLUB
    www.planetoftheapesfanclub.com
     
     
     
    Planet of the Apes APE CHRONICLES Fan Club Fanzines Magazines

    Our 5 newest issues for 2008 are all in stock and ready to ship
    Wee have lots of great articles, interviews etc. in each issue

    Our issues are the best looking and thickest issues ever printed

    We have issues #40 41 42 43 44 all hot off the press this year after
    a 4 year hiatus!

    Details of each issue are listed at the Fan Club website
    www.PlanetOfTheApes FanClub.com

    We have a special deal of all 5 issues shipped together
    in USA/Canada for $35.00
    or Europe/Australia for $50.00 (higher shipping costs)
    or individual issues $9.99 includes shipping anywhere worldwide

    Please write me directly at hoknes@hotmail. com if you have questions
    Thanks for your support !

    PLANET OF THE APES

    APE CHRONICLES

    YOUR LAST PAID ISSUE !

    The new issues are finally out

    Thanks for your patience !

    We are back this year with a bunch of new issues - better and thicker than ever! #44 is out as of June 2008

    You have received your last paid issue.

    I would really appreciate if you could send an email to me so I can get your current email address and verify that your old mailing address was the same and that you did in fact get this package.

    We also look forward to your reviews good or bad on the newest issues. We are hoping to get back on schedule as POTA celebrates its 40th Anniversary.

    Our website has a new address as well - now located at

    www.PlanetOfTheApesFanClub.com

    APE CHRONICLES c/o TERRY HOKNES, PUBLISHER

    739 TAYLOR STREET EAST SASKATOON, SK, CANADA,

    S7H 1W1 (306) 270-9387

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    Group: pota Message: 46753 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 6/4/2008
    Subject: Need help from POTA fans to help design and upgrade the Fan Club Web
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    10 years ago I had one of the best POTA dedicated websites on the internet
    but overtime it "fell apart"
     
    I really feel that POTA deserves a nice Fan Club site
    I want it to be a great useful site for dedicated fans but more importantly to non-POTA fans
    to draw them in with a great variety of useful info on the series
    that will make them want to watch these classic movies etc.
     
    Hunter's site landed up being what I originally wanted mine to be 10 yrs ago
    He now definitely has the best site for POTA product for sure
    so no sense going that same route
    but I want something to lure new fans in
    the 40th anniversary is a great time to do this
     
    I am still a bit short of time but it doesnt do us much good having a website empty and useless
    So if any fans would like to help participate in helping upgrade the website I'd appreciate any help or input
     
    I'm open to ideas from you all - thanks
    Lets give POTA the support it needs this year !
     
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    Group: pota Message: 46754 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/4/2008
    Subject: Birthday Reminder
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    Title:   Mark Wahlberg's Birthday
     
    Date:   Thursday June 5, 2008
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    Group: pota Message: 46755 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/5/2008
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    They will be showing POTA as a tribute to Heston at the LA Film Festival on an outdoor screen Saturday, June 21st 8:30pm

    Details.....scroll down to Planet of the Apes

    http://www.lafilmfest.com/tixSYS/2008/filmguide/title.php/detail/?AlphaRange=PP&ShowShorts=Y&ShowPast=Y

    Tim
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    Group: pota Message: 46756 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/5/2008
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    Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
     
    Title:   Paul Giamatti's Birthday
     
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    Group: pota Message: 46757 From: Colin Snow Date: 6/5/2008
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    WooT!!!! *brings out the cake and party balloons*

    On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:40 PM, <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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    Group: pota Message: 46758 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/6/2008
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    I am SO jealous of anybody who gets to see this! Apes, outdoor, big
    screen! Ape Heaven! John, Scrolls.
    >
    > They will be showing POTA as a tribute to Heston at the LA Film
    Festival on an outdoor screen Saturday, June 21st 8:30pm
    >
    > Details.....scroll down to Planet of the Apes
    >
    > http://www.lafilmfest.com/tixSYS/2008/filmguide/title.php/detail/?
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    Group: pota Message: 46759 From: drhasslein Date: 6/6/2008
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    Outdoor? And FREE? Should be interesting. I'll definitely be there.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
    >
    > They will be showing POTA as a tribute to Heston at the LA Film
    Festival on an outdoor screen Saturday, June 21st 8:30pm
    >
    > Details.....scroll down to Planet of the Apes
    >
    > http://www.lafilmfest.com/tixSYS/2008/filmguide/title.php/detail/?
    AlphaRange=PP&ShowShorts=Y&ShowPast=Y
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    > Tim
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    Group: pota Message: 46760 From: James Date: 6/6/2008
    Subject: Cornelius' Journal
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    TGIF! The latest entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now available. 

    To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm

    And a big thank you to Jeff (Red Spy) for providing the pic for the Group's Yahoo home page.

    Have a great weekend everybody!

    Visit all the Group's special features including:

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    Group: pota Message: 46762 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/6/2008
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    Friday , June 13th at 8 pm at the Loews THeatre....

    part of a Go APe Weekend! with Mighty Joe Young and the original Kong!

    http://www.loewsjersey.org/

    Tim
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    Group: pota Message: 46763 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/6/2008
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    > part of a Go APe Weekend! with Mighty Joe Young and the original Kong!

    That would be so awesome....

    Hunter
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    Group: pota Message: 46765 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/6/2008
    Subject: Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
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    Can I make a suggestion that these reminders be sent out earlier?  Maybe a day before. 
    By the time that I read them, I am at work and can't set my DVR. 
     
    Thanks-Joanne

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    Group: pota Message: 46766 From: James Date: 6/6/2008
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    We tried that once and some people complained that they set their recorders a day early. You just can't make everyone happy.

    All upcoming broadcasts of the films are listed in the group's Calendar well in advance: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal


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    Group: pota Message: 46767 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/6/2008
    Subject: Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
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    Thanks James.  I will coordinate the group calendar with my own. 
     
    Joanne
    and you are correct.  You can not please everyone :)

    James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
    We tried that once and some people complained that they set their recorders a day early. You just can't make everyone happy.
    All upcoming broadcasts of the films are listed in the group's Calendar well in advance: http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/cal

    --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, ~~Joanne~~ <josievan@...> wrote:
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    > Can I make a suggestion that these reminders be sent out earlier? Maybe a day before.
    > By the time that I read them, I am at work and can't set my DVR.
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    > Thanks-Joanne
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    Group: pota Message: 46768 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/6/2008
    Subject: Battle for the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 1:30 pm
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    Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
     
    Title:   Battle for the Planet of the Apes
     
    Date:   Friday June 6, 2008
    Time:   1:30 pm - 3:15 pm
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    Group: pota Message: 46769 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 6/6/2008
    Subject: Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
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    yes joanne your absolutely correct,you cant please everyone :)   goapebilly




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    Group: pota Message: 46770 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/6/2008
    Subject: Re: POTA showing in NEW JERSEY
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    Friday , June 13th at 8 pm at the Loews THeatre....

    part of a Go APe Weekend! with Mighty Joe Young and the original Kong!

    http://www.loewsjer sey.org/

    Tim
    I hope someone will have a report on that. I'm curious if the print quality will be any better than what was shown in New York.

    -- Rory



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    Group: pota Message: 46771 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/6/2008
    Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
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    WooT!!!! *brings out the cake and party balloons*

    I'd like to say that last June 3rd was Maurice Evans's birthday -- and I don't care if he is dead!

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DR. ZAIUS!

    -- Rory


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    Group: pota Message: 46772 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/6/2008
    Subject: Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
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    We tried that once and some people complained that they set their recorders a day early. You just can't make everyone happy.
    All upcoming broadcasts of the films are listed in the group's Calendar well in advance: http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/cal
    I have to wonder why anyone even cares? They're edited, pan & scan, full of annoying commercial interruptions. Really.... Why bother watching? If it was Turner Classic Movies, or even The Fox Movie Channel, but AMC?!? Forget about it!

    -- Rory



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    Title:   Colleen Camp's Birthday
     
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    Group: pota Message: 46774 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/8/2008
    Subject: Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
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      I agree with you 100% Joanne.
       
      Zach 
      -------Original Message-------
       
      Date: 6/6/2008 4:44:19 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 6/6/2008, 11:45 am
       

      yes joanne your absolutely correct,you cant please everyone :)   goapebilly




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      Group: pota Message: 46775 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/9/2008
      Subject: Gottfried on monkeys
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      Came across this yesterday. Don't think it's been posted before.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T24a31QWaCU

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 46776 From: oba_obado Date: 6/9/2008
      Subject: apemum
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      apemum is a poson i want to see
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      Group: pota Message: 46777 From: scott bosco Date: 6/9/2008
      Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
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      Please check the link - it doesn't seem to be working
       
      thanks,
      Scott B

      Haristas@... wrote:
      Came across this yesterday.  Don't think it's been posted before.

      http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=T24a31QWaCU

      -- Rory



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      Group: pota Message: 46778 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/9/2008
      Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
      .html
      try this one..
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T24a31QWaCU

      scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
      Please check the link - it doesn't seem to be working
       
      thanks,
      Scott B

      Haristas@aol. com wrote:
      Came across this yesterday.  Don't think it's been posted before.

      http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=T24a31QWaCU

      -- Rory






       
        





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      Group: pota Message: 46779 From: scott bosco Date: 6/9/2008
      Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
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      THANK YOU.
      - Scott B.

      ~~Joanne~~ <josievan@...> wrote:
      try this one..
      http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=T24a31QWaCU

      scott bosco <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> wrote:
      Please check the link - it doesn't seem to be working
       
      thanks,
      Scott B

      Haristas@aol. com wrote:
      Came across this yesterday.  Don't think it's been posted before.

      http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=T24a31QWaCU

      -- Rory






       
        






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      Group: pota Message: 46780 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/9/2008
      Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
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      It worked for me.  Or you could go to youtube.com and then search for gottfield planet of the apes.
       
      Jessica.

       
      On 6/9/08, ~~Joanne~~ <josievan@...> wrote:

      try this one..
      Please check the link - it doesn't seem to be working
       
      thanks,
      Scott B

      Haristas@... wrote:
      Came across this yesterday.  Don't think it's been posted before.

       

       
      -- Rory

       

       

      Stay informed, get connected and more with AOL on your phone.




       
        






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      Group: pota Message: 46781 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/9/2008
      Subject: 1:6 scale, Virdon's outfit for TV series POTA
      .html
      This is my Sideshow Robert Patrick sporting Virdon's outfit from the TV series Planet of the Apes.  The shirt material was part of a girls sleeve from an old shirt found at Goodwill.  The pants material was cut out of a mens suit also from Goodwill.  The vest is a fake leather purchased at Joanne's and has an embroidered detail.  I also added this photo to Jessica's stuff in the photos section of the group.
       
      Jessica.
       
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      Group: pota Message: 46782 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: POTA onscreen in BOSTON this weekend!
      .html
      http://www.brattlefilm.org/brattlefilm/series/2008/tribute.html"

      FRI 6/13 & SAT 6/14 AT 5:00, 7:30, 10:00 (+SAT AT 2:30)
      New 35mm Print!
      In Tribute to Charlton Heston!
      PLANET OF THE APES
      (1968) dir Franklin J. Schaffer w/Charlton Heston, Roddy McDowall, Kim Hunter [112 min]

      *Join us Friday at 7:30 as Harvard University Professor Dan Lieberman discusses primate evolution prior to the screening!

      >>also they are showing "2001; A Space Odyssey" and KEIR DULLEA will be there!


      Tim
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      Group: pota Message: 46783 From: m c Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: Re: POTA onscreen in BOSTON this weekend!
      .html
      *** This sounds like something Rory would enjoy seeing... ***

      --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:
      From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
      Subject: [pota] POTA onscreen in BOSTON this weekend!
      To: "POTA" <pota@yahoogroups.com>, "POTA DG" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
      Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:24 AM

      http://www.brattlefilm.org/brattlefilm/series/2008/tribute.html
      
      FRI 6/13 & SAT 6/14 AT 5:00, 7:30, 10:00 (+SAT AT 2:30)
      New 35mm Print!
      In Tribute to Charlton Heston!
      PLANET OF THE APES  
      (1968) dir Franklin J. Schaffer w/Charlton Heston, Roddy McDowall, Kim Hunter
      [112 min] 
      
      *Join us Friday at 7:30 as Harvard University Professor Dan Lieberman discusses
      primate evolution prior to the screening!
      
      >>also they are showing "2001; A Space Odyssey" and KEIR DULLEA
      will be there!
      
      
      Tim
      
      
            
      
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      Group: pota Message: 46784 From: Dave B Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
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      Another example of how humour fails to cross the Atlantic. I just
      found him incredibly annoying and had to switch off.

      Dave
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      Group: pota Message: 46785 From: Lynne Miller Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: Members Database.
      .html
      I just added my name to the database...but it says "county", not
      country. Yahoo typo? Lynne (back for the long haul)!
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      Group: pota Message: 46786 From: grotowski666 Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: Photo's I've never seen before!
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      Group: pota Message: 46787 From: James Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
      .html

      That's only because you limeys keep misspelling the word HUMOR.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
      >
      > Another example of how humour fails to cross the Atlantic. >

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      Group: pota Message: 46788 From: Rob Reading Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: James Naughton Sculpt
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      Hi all, Chan Ada has emailed to say her sculpt of James is almost done.
      To see some of her other work available please visit
      www.wantedactionfigure.com

      Rob R
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      Group: pota Message: 46789 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
      .html
      Folks, I don't know if this has even been told by anyone else or not, but I've finally figured out where the outdoor cage in PLANET was located on the Fox Ranch (now Malibu Creek State Park). I don't know why it's taken me this long to find the spot on Google Earth, but I've finally found it. In fact it was staring me right in the face.

      See if this link works for you. Hopefully it'll be of some help until I can get a map made. You need to zoom in as far as you can to see the Malibu Creek. Look for Century Lake (a dam in front of it can clearly be seen, then follow the creek downstream around the "Goat Buttes."

      http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/7048/United_States/California/Calabasas/Malibu_Creek_State_Park

      I think I now know pretty much where everything in PLANET was shot at the Fox Ranch. Well, I'm still not certain where that cliff was that Taylor got shot in the throat off, but I think I can guess.

      Anyway, one of the things that's always confused me about the location of the outdoor cage in PLANET was that I thought the buttes behind it (and I'm talking about what you see directly behind Cornelius and Zira when they kiss) are the same ones in front of Ape City (and Century Lake). But I've finally discovered they're not. In fact what they are are the buttes above the Rock Pool (the hoses either removed or turned off and hence no waterfall there).

      When you first see Cornelius in PLANET you can see some of the Malibu Creek behind him. This is an area of the creek below both the Rock Pool and the Century Lake area (where Ape City was constructed).

      The outdoor cage was built atop the stone foundation of a Club Lodge that Fox removed after they bought the property in the forties. You can see the outline of the foundation in the crane shot of the outdoor cage, and the stone steps that Cornelius and Zira climb to get to the cage are actually the old steps to the lodge. They're still there and can be clearly seen on Google Earth.

      By the way, the small "Ape House" in front of the steps is built against a hugh slab of rock, the other side of which appears later as the "Ape Council" meeting place in BATTLE.

      I'm going to try in the future to get a good map made of these things. In the meantime, I'm sure many of you will be confused.

      -- Rory
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      Group: pota Message: 46790 From: ansanaut Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
      .html
      Hey Rory
      Youre correct. I was out there in September doing a shoot. Ill try
      post a pic of me sitting on the steps.

      Cheers
      Les


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
      >
      >
      > Folks, I don't know if this has even been told by anyone else or
      not, but I've finally figured out where the outdoor cage in PLANET
      was located on the Fox Ranch (now Malibu Creek State Park). Â I don't
      know why it's taken me this long to find the spot on Google Earth,
      but I've finally found it. Â In fact it was staring me right in the
      face. Â
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > See if this link works for you. Â Hopefully it'll be of some help
      until I can get a map made. Â You need to zoom in as far as you can
      to see the Malibu Creek. Â Look for Century Lake (a dam in front of
      it can clearly be seen, then follow the creek downstream around
      the "Goat Buttes."
      >
      >
      >
      > http://www.satellite-
      sightseer.com/id/7048/United_States/California/Calabasas/Malibu_Creek_
      State_Park
      >
      >
      >
      > I think I now know pretty much where everything in PLANET was shot
      at the Fox Ranch. Â Well, I'm still not certain where that cliff was
      that Taylor got shot in the throat off, but I think I can guess.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Anyway, one of the things that's always confused me about the
      location of the outdoor cage in PLANET was that I thought the buttes
      behind it (and I'm talking about what you see directly behind
      Cornelius and Zira when they kiss) are the same ones in front of Ape
      City (and Century Lake). Â But I've finally discovered they're not.
      Â In fact what they are are the buttes above the Rock Pool (the hoses
      either removed or turned off and hence no waterfall there).
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > When you first see Cornelius in PLANET you can see some of the
      Malibu Creek behind him. Â This is an area of the creek below both
      the Rock Pool and the Century Lake area (where Ape City was
      constructed).
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > The outdoor cage was built atop the stone foundation of a Club
      Lodge that Fox removed after they bought the property in the forties.
      Â You can see the outline of the foundation in the crane shot of the
      outdoor cage, and the stone steps that Cornelius and Zira climb to
      get to the cage are actually the old steps to the lodge. Â They're
      still there and can be clearly seen on Google Earth.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > By the way, the small "Ape House" in front of the steps is built
      against a hugh slab of rock, the other side of which appears later as
      the "Ape Council" meeting place in BATTLE.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > I'm going to try in the future to get a good map made of these
      things. Â In the meantime, I'm sure many of you will be confused.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > -- Rory
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 46791 From: James Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
      .html

      The link says where POTA and MASH were filmed. I could be wrong but I always thought the helicopter landing area on MASH was the cage area from Planet.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
      >
      >
      > Folks, I don't know if this has even been told by anyone else or not, but I've finally figured out where the outdoor cage in PLANET was located on the Fox Ranch (now Malibu Creek State Park).  I don't know why it's taken me this long to find the spot on Google Earth, but I've finally found it.  In fact it was staring me right in the face.  
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > See if this link works for you.  Hopefully it'll be of some help until I can get a map made.  You need to zoom in as far as you can to see the Malibu Creek.  Look for Century Lake (a dam in front of it can clearly be seen, then follow the creek downstream around the "Goat Buttes."
      >
      >
      >
      > http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/7048/United_States/California/Calabasas/Malibu_Creek_State_Park
      >
      >
      >
      > I think I now know pretty much where everything in PLANET was shot at the Fox Ranch.  Well, I'm still not certain where that cliff was that Taylor got shot in the throat off, but I think I can guess.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Anyway, one of the things that's always confused me about the location of the outdoor cage in PLANET was that I thought the buttes behind it (and I'm talking about what you see directly behind Cornelius and Zira when they kiss) are the same ones in front of Ape City (and Century Lake).  But I've finally discovered they're not.  In fact what they are are the buttes above the Rock Pool (the hoses either removed or turned off and hence no waterfall there).
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > When you first see Cornelius in PLANET you can see some of the Malibu Creek behind him.  This is an area of the creek below both the Rock Pool and the Century Lake area (where Ape City was constructed).
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > The outdoor cage was built atop the stone foundation of a Club Lodge that Fox removed after they bought the property in the forties.  You can see the outline of the foundation in the crane shot of the outdoor cage, and the stone steps that Cornelius and Zira climb to get to the cage are actually the old steps to the lodge.  They're still there and can be clearly seen on Google Earth.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > By the way, the small "Ape House" in front of the steps is built against a hugh slab of rock, the other side of which appears later as the "Ape Council" meeting place in BATTLE.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > I'm going to try in the future to get a good map made of these things.  In the meantime, I'm sure many of you will be confused.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > -- Rory
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 46792 From: Jeff Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
      .html
      .html
      Most people here find him annoying too!
       
      Jeff B
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Dave B
      Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:34 AM
      Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [pota] Re: Gottfried on monkeys

      Another example of how humour fails to cross the Atlantic. I just
      found him incredibly annoying and had to switch off.

      Dave

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      Group: pota Message: 46793 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: Re: Gottfried on monkeys
      .html
      his voice goes right through me like fingernails on a chalk board!

      Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote:
      Most people here find him annoying too!
       
      Jeff B
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Dave B
      Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:34 AM
      Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [pota] Re: Gottfried on monkeys

      Another example of how humour fails to cross the Atlantic. I just
      found him incredibly annoying and had to switch off.

      Dave




       
        





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      Group: pota Message: 46794 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2008
      Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
      .html
      Attachments :
        Is this what you are talking about? I can't believe I didn't see that when I was there....it looks like it could be....

        I know I went down to the rock pool which is close by but I never saw this trail....but are you sure it would be high enough? the cage area seemed like it was higher in elevation....this looks like it's down closer to the water....I found a small landing with a stair but it wasn't it....it was higher up the hill from this...


        Tim



        --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

        > From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
        > Subject: [pota] PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
        > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 4:00 PM
        > Folks, I don't know if this has even been told by anyone
        > else or not, but I've finally figured out where the
        > outdoor cage in PLANET was located on the Fox Ranch (now
        > Malibu Creek State Park). I don't know why it's
        > taken me this long to find the spot on Google Earth, but
        > I've finally found it. In fact it was staring me
        > right in the face.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > See if this link works for you. Hopefully it'll be of
        > some help until I can get a map made. You need to zoom in
        > as far as you can to see the Malibu Creek. Look for
        > Century Lake (a dam in front of it can clearly be seen,
        > then follow the creek downstream around the "Goat
        > Buttes."
        >
        >
        >
        > http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/7048/United_States/California/Calabasas/Malibu_Creek_State_Park
        >
        >
        >
        > I think I now know pretty much where everything in PLANET
        > was shot at the Fox Ranch. Well, I'm still not
        > certain where that cliff was that Taylor got shot in the
        > throat off, but I think I can guess.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Anyway, one of the things that's always confused me
        > about the location of the outdoor cage in PLANET was that I
        > thought the buttes behind it (and I'm talking about what
        > you see directly behind Cornelius and Zira when they kiss)
        > are the same ones in front of Ape City (and Century Lake).
        > But I've finally discovered they're not. In
        > fact what they are are the buttes above the Rock Pool (the
        > hoses either removed or turned off and hence no waterfall
        > there).
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > When you first see Cornelius in PLANET you can see some of
        > the Malibu Creek behind him. This is an area of the creek
        > below both the Rock Pool and the Century Lake area (where
        > Ape City was constructed).
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > The outdoor cage was built atop the stone foundation of a
        > Club Lodge that Fox removed after they bought the property
        > in the forties. You can see the outline of the foundation
        > in the crane shot of the outdoor cage, and the stone steps
        > that Cornelius and Zira climb to get to the cage are
        > actually the old steps to the lodge. They're still
        > there and can be clearly seen on Google Earth.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > By the way, the small "Ape House" in front of the
        > steps is built against a hugh slab of rock, the other side
        > of which appears later as the "Ape Council"
        > meeting place in BATTLE.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > I'm going to try in the future to get a good map made
        > of these things. In the meantime, I'm sure many of
        > you will be confused.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > -- Rory
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        Group: pota Message: 46795 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 6/10/2008
        Subject: Authorizing DVD menu chapters etc - Hunter ?
        .html
        .html
        I think it might have been Hunter I was speaking to on this topic
        Does anyone have any suggestions on a good DVD program
        that creates detailed menus and chapters - where you can choose pictures or specific frames to show for each chapter and also text titles for each ?
        <.html
        <.html
        Group: pota Message: 46796 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2008
        Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
        .html
        Attachments :
          curse you Rory! I was about to go to bed when I read this and I had to get the disc out and go through the movie and do screen captures and all BUT I think you are CORRECT! I think .....here's the proof...

          Now follow carefully....

          Figure 1 (enclosed) is the over head view of the spot. The yellow circle is the spot where I found and thought it might be the cage area but realised it was too small and too high up to have had the cage and zira's office there...the drop off is very steep and no water directly below as you can see when Cornelius starts up the stairs. There are some "ruins" there and a small platform and stairs but they are not right.

          Figure 2 is the view from that spot (Looking south west).. Hence the yellow circle.

          Figure 3 is from the film of course. Lucious and Zira driving off past the cage.....the steps leading down to the office are directly behind them (the direction they came from). See the rock formations in the red circle match Figure 2 as do the cliffs in the blue circle! and my photo is from a slightly higher elevation than the screen cap.....!

          Now the big mystery is why I, standing on this plateau could not see the larger flat area below!

          What do think class? Class?

          I've been obsessed with this since last summer ....!!

          TIm


          --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

          > From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
          > Subject: [pota] PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
          > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 4:00 PM
          > Folks, I don't know if this has even been told by anyone
          > else or not, but I've finally figured out where the
          > outdoor cage in PLANET was located on the Fox Ranch (now
          > Malibu Creek State Park). I don't know why it's
          > taken me this long to find the spot on Google Earth, but
          > I've finally found it. In fact it was staring me
          > right in the face.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > See if this link works for you. Hopefully it'll be of
          > some help until I can get a map made. You need to zoom in
          > as far as you can to see the Malibu Creek. Look for
          > Century Lake (a dam in front of it can clearly be seen,
          > then follow the creek downstream around the "Goat
          > Buttes."
          >
          >
          >
          > http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/7048/United_States/California/Calabasas/Malibu_Creek_State_Park
          >
          >
          >
          > I think I now know pretty much where everything in PLANET
          > was shot at the Fox Ranch. Well, I'm still not
          > certain where that cliff was that Taylor got shot in the
          > throat off, but I think I can guess.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > Anyway, one of the things that's always confused me
          > about the location of the outdoor cage in PLANET was that I
          > thought the buttes behind it (and I'm talking about what
          > you see directly behind Cornelius and Zira when they kiss)
          > are the same ones in front of Ape City (and Century Lake).
          > But I've finally discovered they're not. In
          > fact what they are are the buttes above the Rock Pool (the
          > hoses either removed or turned off and hence no waterfall
          > there).
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > When you first see Cornelius in PLANET you can see some of
          > the Malibu Creek behind him. This is an area of the creek
          > below both the Rock Pool and the Century Lake area (where
          > Ape City was constructed).
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > The outdoor cage was built atop the stone foundation of a
          > Club Lodge that Fox removed after they bought the property
          > in the forties. You can see the outline of the foundation
          > in the crane shot of the outdoor cage, and the stone steps
          > that Cornelius and Zira climb to get to the cage are
          > actually the old steps to the lodge. They're still
          > there and can be clearly seen on Google Earth.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > By the way, the small "Ape House" in front of the
          > steps is built against a hugh slab of rock, the other side
          > of which appears later as the "Ape Council"
          > meeting place in BATTLE.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > I'm going to try in the future to get a good map made
          > of these things. In the meantime, I'm sure many of
          > you will be confused.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > -- Rory
          <.html
          Group: pota Message: 46797 From: Dave B Date: 6/11/2008
          Subject: Re: Photo's I've never seen before!
          .html
          This site here gives you a better idea of how it looked.

          <http://www.supertouchart.com/2008/01/09/pariscolettelost-on-dennis-stocks-planet-of-the-apes/>


          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "grotowski666" <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
          >
          > Found this and wondered if any body saw the exhibition?
          >
          >
          http://www.selectism.com/posts/archive/2008/january/03/planet_of_the_apes_by_dennis_stock-1/index.htm
          >
          <.html
          Group: pota Message: 46798 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/11/2008
          Subject: Re: Authorizing DVD menu chapters etc - Hunter ?
          .html
          > I think it might have been Hunter I was speaking to on this topic
          > Does anyone have any suggestions on a good DVD program
          > that creates detailed menus and chapters - where you can choose
          > pictures or specific frames to show for each chapter and also text
          > titles for each ?

          TMPGEnc DVD Author is simple to use, lets you do all of the above, and
          is prett inexpensive:

          http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/index.html"

          I've tried other authoring tools, but this one is, IMO, the best.
          It's also what I've used for all the Apes DVDs I've produced.

          Hunter
          ------
          Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/
          goathunter@... http://www.goatley.com/hunter/
          <.html
          Group: pota Message: 46799 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
          Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
          .html
          Hey Rory
          Youre correct. I was out there in September doing a shoot. Ill try
          post a pic of me sitting on the steps.

          Cheers
          Les
          Hey Les, that would be great. I'd like to see the photos as I don't know if I'll ever actually visit there, but thanks to Google Earth if I were dropped there I'd know exactly where to go.

          -- Rory

          <.html
          Group: pota Message: 46800 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
          Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
          .html
          The link says where POTA and MASH were filmed. I could be wrong but I always thought the helicopter landing area on MASH was the cage area from Planet.

          No, it's not. The MASH sets were filmed further north up Malibu Creek from Century Lake. I'd say about three miles north of where Ape City was.

          -- Rory


          <.html
          Group: pota Message: 46801 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
          Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
          .html
          Attachments :
            Is this what you are talking about? I can't believe I didn't see that when I was there....it looks like it could be....

            Yes! That is exactly what I'm talking about. (Thanks for capturing that image. How do you do that?)

            That's the foundation of an old lodge that was built there, I think, in the 1920s. It was called something like Crag's Lodge. There's still a trail there called Crag's Trail. Anyway, after Fox bought the property in the '40s they removed the lodge. I guess the stone foundation was too much work to remove and could be easily disguised. I think they shot on it in a '50s Fox war movie called BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL.

            Looking directly down on it like that I know it doesn't seem as if it could have the elevation it does in the movies, but it does. That big rock slab in front of the foundation is now called the "Planet of the Apes Wall" and is used by rock climbers that visit the park. As I've said, that's also where the "Ape Council" meeting place is in BATTLE and that gives you another view of the elevation.

            Hopefully we'll get more photos of it soon.

            -- Rory
            <.html
            Group: pota Message: 46802 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
            Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
            .html
            Yeah, Tim....

            The area you took your first two photos from is too far away. I'm sorry to cause you this anxiety, but this is what's great about this group. I've been bugged for years as to where the hell that outdoor cage set was in relationship to the Ape City set, but I'm glad I've finally figured it out. Bless Google Earth. A few years ago their photo of the area was so low res. that it was practically useless. Now they are fantastic. The big mystery for me is why I didn't spot this area months ago. I've known the cage sat atop the lodge foundation for some time. Anyway, it's a pleasure to be able to share my discovery with other fans.

            Now you need to get back out to the park and take new photos, Tim!

            By the way, everyone knows where the cornfield was and the Ape Town set from BATTLE, right?

            -- Rory


            -----Original Message-----
            From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:36 am
            Subject: Re: [pota] PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found

            curse you Rory! I was about to go to bed when I read this and I had to get the disc out and go through the movie and do screen captures and all BUT I think you are CORRECT! I think .....here's the proof...

            Now follow carefully... .

            Figure 1 (enclosed) is the over head view of the spot. The yellow circle is the spot where I found and thought it might be the cage area but realised it was too small and too high up to have had the cage and zira's office there...the drop off is very steep and no water directly below as you can see when Cornelius starts up the stairs. There are some "ruins" there and a small platform and stairs but they are not right.

            Figure 2 is the view from that spot (Looking south west).. Hence the yellow circle.

            Figure 3 is from the film of course. Lucious and Zira driving off past the cage.....the steps leading down to the office are directly behind them (the direction they came from). See the rock formations in the red circle match Figure 2 as do the cliffs in the blue circle! and my photo is from a slightly higher elevation than the screen cap.....!

            Now the big mystery is why I, standing on this plateau could not see the larger flat area below!

            What do think class? Class?

            I've been obsessed with this since last summer ....!!

            TIm

            --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:

            > From: Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com>
            > Subject: [pota] PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
            > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
            > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 4:00 PM
            > Folks, I don't know if this has even been told by anyone
            > else or not, but I've finally figured out where the
            > outdoor cage in PLANET was located on the Fox Ranch (now
            > Malibu Creek State Park). I don't know why it's
            > taken me this long to find the spot on Google Earth, but
            > I've finally found it. In fact it was staring me
            > right in the face.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > See if this link works for you. Hopefully it'll be of
            > some help until I can get a map made. You need to zoom in
            > as far as you can to see the Malibu Creek. Look for
            > Century Lake (a dam in front of it can clearly be seen,
            > then follow the creek downstream around the "Goat
            > Buttes."
            >
            >
            >
            > http://www.satellit e-sightseer. com/id/7048/ United_States/ California/ Calabasas/ Malibu_Creek_ State_Park
            >
            >
            >
            > I think I now know pretty much where everything in PLANET
            > was shot at the Fox Ranch. Well, I'm still not
            > certain where that cliff was that Taylor got shot in the
            > throat off, but I think I can guess.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Anyway, one of the things that's always confused me
            > about the location of the outdoor cage in PLANET was that I
            > thought the buttes behind it (and I'm talking about what
            > you see directly behind Cornelius and Zira when they kiss)
            > are the same ones in front of Ape City (and Century Lake).
            > But I've finally discovered they're not. In
            > fact what they are are the buttes above the Rock Pool (the
            > hoses either removed or turned off and hence no waterfall
            > there).
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > When you first see Cornelius in PLANET you can see some of
            > the Malibu Creek behind him. This is an area of the creek
            > below both the Rock Pool and the Century Lake area (where
            > Ape City was constructed) .
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > The outdoor cage was built atop the stone foundation of a
            > Club Lodge that Fox removed after they bought the property
            > in the forties. You can see the outline of the foundation
            > in the crane shot of the outdoor cage, and the stone steps
            > that Cornelius and Zira climb to get to the cage are
            > actually the old steps to the lodge. They're still
            > there and can be clearly seen on Google Earth.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > By the way, the small "Ape House" in front of the
            > steps is built against a hugh slab of rock, the other side
            > of which appears later as the "Ape Council"
            > meeting place in BATTLE.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > I'm going to try in the future to get a good map made
            > of these things. In the meantime, I'm sure many of
            > you will be confused.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > -- Rory


            <.html
            Group: pota Message: 46803 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
            Subject: Re: Photo's I've never seen before!
            .html
            his site here gives you a better idea of how it looked.

            <http://www.supertou chart.com/ 2008/01/09/ pariscolettelost -on-dennis- stocks-planet- of-the-apes/>

            James, save this web page in the files or something -- if you haven't already.

            -- Rory

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Dave B <smugster2000@...>
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 2:18 am
            Subject: [pota] Re: Photo's I've never seen before!

            This site here gives you a better idea of how it looked.

            <http://www.supertou chart.com/ 2008/01/09/ pariscolettelost -on-dennis- stocks-planet- of-the-apes/>

            --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "grotowski666" <johnbkirtley@ ...> wrote:
            >
            > Found this and wondered if any body saw the exhibition?
            >
            >
            http://www.selectis m.com/posts/ archive/2008/ january/03/ planet_of_ the_apes_ by_dennis_ stock-1/index. htm
            >

            <.html
            Group: pota Message: 46804 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
            Subject: PLANET screening this Friday, Loew's Theatre Jersey City, NJ
            .html
            From Cinemaretro.com:

            This Friday, June 13, the landmark Loew's Theatre in Jersey City, New Jersey will be screening the 1968 sci-fi classic Planet of the Apes starring Charlton Heston to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the movie. Showtime is at 8:00 PM - and the following day, the theater will present three other simian-themed classics:a matinee of Might Joe Young and evening screenings of King Kong/ Son of Kong (both on a bargain two-for-one double bill.) If you feel there aren't enough big apes on the screen, you can also meet our illustrious editor-in-chief Lee Pfeiffer, who will be introducing Planet of the Apes on Friday (and revealing a bit of news that will excite Ape maniacs!)
            The Loew's is true movie palace that is being painstakingly restored to it's former glory thanks to a dedicated group of volunteers. The theater is regarded as one of the most magnificent in the nation - and features low admission prices ($6; $4 for seniors and kids aged 12 and under), uniformed ushers (remember those?) who actually escort you to your seat and $1 popcorn and soft drinks. New York movie fans have been patronizing the theater because its only minutes from midtown Manhattan by the Path train service. A great feature of the screenings is that they generally include displays of original movie memorabila and collectibles and movie lovers meet in the luxurious lobby before and after the show to discuss common interests. Oh, and for our latest self-serving promotion, we can say you can now get back issues of Cinema Retro on sale in the theater lobby. So join Cinema Retro in going "Ape" this Friday night.

            Well, if it turns out this place has a better print than I saw last March, I'll be kicking myself.
            James, are you going to go?
            -- Rory
            <.html
            Group: pota Message: 46805 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/11/2008
            Subject: Use of Google Earth
            .html
            This is for Tim and anyone else who cares to try...

            About the question of the elevation of the old lodge foundation site in Malibu Creek State Park.

            I've just been looking at it again on Google Earth and when you use the layers on the left side, click on Terrain, then use the slide tool on the right, the elevation of everything should pop up and you can move around and get a good idea of the terrain. You can fly over the entire park and get an excellent view of where everything is, from site of the cornfield in the south of the park to Century Lake north of that. Follow the creek north from Century Lake and it bends west between two buttes. Where it bends north again is the site where the MASH set was. Follow the creek further north and you'll find Lake Malibu (actually they spell it differently, I think "Malibou" or something). This is a reservoir made in the twenties from a conjunction of two other creeks that came together to form Malibu Creek. Anyway, it filled up in the late twenties and was the site in the Boris Karloff FRANKENSTEIN where the Monster drowns "Little Maria." o now when you see that scene you'll know that a fw decades later Ape City would be built just behind the mountains in the background.

            -- Rory
            <.html
            Group: pota Message: 46806 From: James Date: 6/11/2008
            Subject: Re: Photo's I've never seen before!
            .html

            Thanks I've added it to the links section.


            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
            >
            >
            >
            > his site here gives you a better idea of how it looked.
            >
            >
            >
            > <http://www.supertouchart.com/2008/01/09/pariscolettelost-on-dennis-stocks-planet-of-the-apes/>
            >
            >
            > James, save this web page in the files or something -- if you haven't already.
            >
            >
            >
            > -- Rory
            >
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: Dave B smugster2000@...
            > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 2:18 am
            > Subject: [pota] Re: Photo's I've never seen before!
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > This site here gives you a better idea of how it looked.
            >
            >
            >
            > <http://www.supertouchart.com/2008/01/09/pariscolettelost-on-dennis-stocks-planet-of-the-apes/>
            >
            >
            >
            > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "grotowski666" johnbkirtley@ wrote:
            >
            > >
            >
            > > Found this and wondered if any body saw the exhibition?
            >
            > >
            >
            > >
            >
            > http://www.selectism.com/posts/archive/2008/january/03/planet_of_the_apes_by_dennis_stock-1/index.htm
            >
            > >
            >

            <.html
            Group: pota Message: 46807 From: James Date: 6/11/2008
            Subject: Re: PLANET screening this Friday, Loew's Theatre Jersey City, NJ
            .html

            Not sure yet. I'm waiting to hear from Jeff and Bill Blake to see if they can make it.


            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
            >
            > From Cinemaretro.com:
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > This Friday, June 13, the landmark Loew's Theatre in Jersey City, New Jersey will be screening the 1968 sci-fi classic Planet of the Apes starring Charlton Heston to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the movie. Showtime is at 8:00 PM - and the following day, the theater will present three other simian-themed classics:a matinee of Might Joe Young and evening screenings of King Kong/ Son of Kong (both on a bargain two-for-one double bill.) If you feel there aren't enough big apes on the screen, you can also meet our illustrious editor-in-chief Lee Pfeiffer, who will be introducing Planet of the Apes on Friday (and revealing a bit of news that will excite Ape maniacs!)
            >
            > The Loew's is true movie palace that is being painstakingly restored to it's former glory thanks to a dedicated group of volunteers. The theater is regarded as one of the most magnificent in the nation - and features low admission prices ($6; $4 for seniors and kids aged 12 and under), uniformed ushers (remember those?) who actually escort you to your seat and $1 popcorn and soft drinks. New York movie fans have been patronizing the theater because its only minutes from midtown Manhattan by the Path train service. A great feature of the screenings is that they generally include displays of original movie memorabila and collectibles and movie lovers meet in the luxurious lobby before and after the show to discuss common interests. Oh, and for our latest self-serving promotion, we can say you can now get back issues of Cinema Retro on sale in the theater lobby. So join Cinema Retro in going "Ape" this Friday night.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Well, if it turns out this place has a better print than I saw last March, I'll be kicking myself.
            >
            > James, are you going to go?
            >
            > -- Rory
            >

            <.html
            Group: pota Message: 46808 From: ansanaut Date: 6/11/2008
            Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
            .html
            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
            >
            >
            >
            > Hey Rory
            >
            > Youre correct. I was out there in September doing a shoot. Ill try
            >
            > post a pic of me sitting on the steps.
            >
            > Cheers
            >
            > Les
            > Hey Les, that would be great. Â I'd like to see the photos as I
            don't know if I'll ever actually visit there, but thanks to Google
            Earth if I were dropped there I'd know exactly where to go.
            >
            >
            >
            > -- Rory


            Whats your email address Rory? Ill email the shots to you to post on
            the forum if you like?
            Thanks
            Les
            <.html
            Group: pota Message: 46809 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/11/2008
            Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
            .html
            I wish I could get a whole actual sattelite pic of the whole area....it's hard to move around the thing in just that small square!

            I have a program called "Capture Me" I downloaded for free from somewhere,
            you just move a window to whatever you want on screen and then "click" it....
            There is also a screen grab built into my MAc...


            --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

            > From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
            > Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
            > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            > Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 9:10 AM
            > Is this what you are talking about? I can't believe I
            > didn't see that when I was there....it looks like it
            > could be....
            >
            > Yes! That is exactly what I'm talking about. (Thanks
            > for capturing that image. How do you do that?)
            >
            >
            >
            > That's the foundation of an old lodge that was built
            > there, I think, in the 1920s. It was called something
            > like Crag's Lodge. There's still a trail there
            > called Crag's Trail. Anyway, after Fox bought the
            > property in the '40s they removed the lodge. I guess
            > the stone foundation was too much work to remove and could
            > be easily disguised. I think they shot on it in a
            > '50s Fox war movie called BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Looking directly down on it like that I know it doesn't
            > seem as if it could have the elevation it does in the
            > movies, but it does. That big rock slab in front of the
            > foundation is now called the "Planet of the Apes
            > Wall" and is used by rock climbers that visit the
            > park. As I've said, that's also where the
            > "Ape Council" meeting place is in BATTLE and that
            > gives you another view of the elevation.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Hopefully we'll get more photos of it soon.
            >
            > -- Rory
            <.html
            Group: pota Message: 46810 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/11/2008
            Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
            .html
            I never saw the POTA wall too....although I followed the trail that goes right by it down to the rock pool....guess I'll have to go back....
            When I asked Creber where the cage was last year when he spoke at the POTA showing he made it sound like it was a completely different place in the park!


            --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

            > From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
            > Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
            > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            > Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 9:10 AM
            > Is this what you are talking about? I can't believe I
            > didn't see that when I was there....it looks like it
            > could be....
            >
            > Yes! That is exactly what I'm talking about. (Thanks
            > for capturing that image. How do you do that?)
            >
            >
            >
            > That's the foundation of an old lodge that was built
            > there, I think, in the 1920s. It was called something
            > like Crag's Lodge. There's still a trail there
            > called Crag's Trail. Anyway, after Fox bought the
            > property in the '40s they removed the lodge. I guess
            > the stone foundation was too much work to remove and could
            > be easily disguised. I think they shot on it in a
            > '50s Fox war movie called BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Looking directly down on it like that I know it doesn't
            > seem as if it could have the elevation it does in the
            > movies, but it does. That big rock slab in front of the
            > foundation is now called the "Planet of the Apes
            > Wall" and is used by rock climbers that visit the
            > park. As I've said, that's also where the
            > "Ape Council" meeting place is in BATTLE and that
            > gives you another view of the elevation.
            >
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            > Hopefully we'll get more photos of it soon.
            >
            > -- Rory
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            Group: pota Message: 46811 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/11/2008
            Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
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              I think I know where the cornfield was...there is a long stretch of valley as you walk from the parking lot to the visitor's center...is that it? (see pic)
              Where was Battle's Ape City??


              --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

              > From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
              > Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
              > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              > Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 9:23 AM
              > Yeah, Tim....
              >
              >
              >
              > The area you took your first two photos from is too far
              > away. I'm sorry to cause you this anxiety, but this
              > is what's great about this group. I've been
              > bugged for years as to where the hell that outdoor cage set
              > was in relationship to the Ape City set, but I'm glad
              > I've finally figured it out. Bless Google Earth. A
              > few years ago their photo of the area was so low res. that
              > it was practically useless. Now they are fantastic. The
              > big mystery for me is why I didn't spot this area months
              > ago. I've known the cage sat atop the lodge foundation
              > for some time. Anyway, it's a pleasure to be able to
              > share my discovery with other fans.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Now you need to get back out to the park and take new
              > photos, Tim!
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > By the way, everyone knows where the cornfield was and the
              > Ape Town set from BATTLE, right?
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > -- Rory
              >
              >
              > -----Original Message-----
              > From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
              > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:36 am
              > Subject: Re: [pota] PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
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              > curse you Rory! I was about to go to bed when I read this
              > and I had to get the disc out and go through the movie and
              > do screen captures and all BUT I think you are CORRECT! I
              > think .....here's the proof...
              >
              >
              >
              > Now follow carefully....
              >
              >
              >
              > Figure 1 (enclosed) is the over head view of the spot. The
              > yellow circle is the spot where I found and thought it
              > might be the cage area but realised it was too small and
              > too high up to have had the cage and zira's office
              > there...the drop off is very steep and no water directly
              > below as you can see when Cornelius starts up the stairs.
              > There are some "ruins" there and a small platform
              > and stairs but they are not right.
              >
              >
              >
              > Figure 2 is the view from that spot (Looking south west)..
              > Hence the yellow circle.
              >
              >
              >
              > Figure 3 is from the film of course. Lucious and Zira
              > driving off past the cage.....the steps leading down to the
              > office are directly behind them (the direction they came
              > from). See the rock formations in the red circle match
              > Figure 2 as do the cliffs in the blue circle! and my photo
              > is from a slightly higher elevation than the screen
              > cap.....!
              >
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              > Now the big mystery is why I, standing on this plateau
              > could not see the larger flat area below!
              >
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              > What do think class? Class?
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              >
              > I've been obsessed with this since last summer ....!!
              >
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              >
              > TIm
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              >
              > --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Haristas@...
              > <Haristas@...> wrote:
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              > > From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
              >
              > > Subject: [pota] PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
              >
              > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              >
              > > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 4:00 PM
              >
              > > Folks, I don't know if this has even been told by
              > anyone
              >
              > > else or not, but I've finally figured out where
              > the
              >
              > > outdoor cage in PLANET was located on the Fox Ranch
              > (now
              >
              > > Malibu Creek State Park). I don't know why
              > it's
              >
              > > taken me this long to find the spot on Google Earth,
              > but
              >
              > > I've finally found it. In fact it was staring me
              >
              > > right in the face.
              >
              > >
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              > >
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              > >
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              > >
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              > > See if this link works for you. Hopefully it'll
              > be of
              >
              > > some help until I can get a map made. You need to
              > zoom in
              >
              > > as far as you can to see the Malibu Creek. Look for
              >
              > > Century Lake (a dam in front of it can clearly be
              > seen,
              >
              > > then follow the creek downstream around the "Goat
              >
              > > Buttes."
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              > http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/7048/United_States/California/Calabasas/Malibu_Creek_State_Park
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > > I think I now know pretty much where everything in
              > PLANET
              >
              > > was shot at the Fox Ranch. Well, I'm still not
              >
              > > certain where that cliff was that Taylor got shot in
              > the
              >
              > > throat off, but I think I can guess.
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > > Anyway, one of the things that's always confused
              > me
              >
              > > about the location of the outdoor cage in PLANET was
              > that I
              >
              > > thought the buttes behind it (and I'm talking
              > about what
              >
              > > you see directly behind Cornelius and Zira when they
              > kiss)
              >
              > > are the same ones in front of Ape City (and Century
              > Lake).
              >
              > > But I've finally discovered they're not.
              > In
              >
              > > fact what they are are the buttes above the Rock Pool
              > (the
              >
              > > hoses either removed or turned off and hence no
              > waterfall
              >
              > > there).
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > > When you first see Cornelius in PLANET you can see
              > some of
              >
              > > the Malibu Creek behind him. This is an area of the
              > creek
              >
              > > below both the Rock Pool and the Century Lake area
              > (where
              >
              > > Ape City was constructed).
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > >
              >
              > > The outdoor cage was built atop the stone foundation
              > of a
              >
              > > Club Lodge that Fox removed after they bought the
              > property
              >
              > > in the forties. You can see the outline of the
              > foundation
              >
              > > in the crane shot of the outdoor cage, and the stone
              > steps
              >
              > > that Cornelius and Zira climb to get to the cage are
              >
              > > actually the old steps to the lodge. They're
              > still
              >
              > > there and can be clearly seen on Google Earth.
              >
              > >
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              > >
              >
              > >
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              > >
              >
              > > By the way, the small "Ape House" in front
              > of the
              >
              > > steps is built against a hugh slab of rock, the other
              > side
              >
              > > of which appears later as the "Ape Council"
              >
              > > meeting place in BATTLE.
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              > > I'm going to try in the future to get a good map
              > made
              >
              > > of these things. In the meantime, I'm sure many
              > of
              >
              > > you will be confused.
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              > > -- Rory
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              Group: pota Message: 46812 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/11/2008
              Subject: Re: mash
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                Don;t think it was that far but it is a hike !
                Here are the only two things to see there left from MASH!

                Tim


                --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

                > From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
                > Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
                > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                > Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 8:48 AM
                > The link says where POTA and MASH were filmed. I could be
                > wrong but I always thought the helicopter landing area on
                > MASH was the cage area from Planet.
                >
                > No, it's not. The MASH sets were filmed further north
                > up Malibu Creek from Century Lake. I'd say about three
                > miles north of where Ape City was.
                >
                >
                >
                > -- Rory
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                Group: pota Message: 46813 From: Mike M Date: 6/11/2008
                Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
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                Hey Rory,

                Perfect timing on this, and fantastic information! I'm planning to
                visit the park in about two weeks specifically to find as many of the
                filming loations as possible, especially the cage location. I've
                always wondered where, exactly, it was located. I'll try to take
                some good photos and post them here, if possible.

                By the way, I found a book that might be of interest to the group,
                and you specifically. It's called "Hollywood Escapes: The
                Moviegoer's Guide to Exploring Southern California's Great Outdoors"
                by Harry Medved. I purchased it on Amazon.com specifically for this
                trip, and he does a pretty good job of covering the POTA filming
                locations. I'm also looking forward to the map you are planning to
                make of the park. Thank goodness for Google Earth!

                Mike



                --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
                >
                >
                > Folks, I don't know if this has even been told by anyone else or
                not, but I've finally figured out where the outdoor cage in PLANET
                was located on the Fox Ranch (now Malibu Creek State Park). Â I don't
                know why it's taken me this long to find the spot on Google Earth,
                but I've finally found it. Â In fact it was staring me right in the
                face. Â
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > See if this link works for you. Â Hopefully it'll be of some help
                until I can get a map made. Â You need to zoom in as far as you can
                to see the Malibu Creek. Â Look for Century Lake (a dam in front of
                it can clearly be seen, then follow the creek downstream around
                the "Goat Buttes."
                >
                >
                >
                > http://www.satellite-
                sightseer.com/id/7048/United_States/California/Calabasas/Malibu_Creek_
                State_Park
                >
                >
                >
                > I think I now know pretty much where everything in PLANET was shot
                at the Fox Ranch. Â Well, I'm still not certain where that cliff was
                that Taylor got shot in the throat off, but I think I can guess.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > Anyway, one of the things that's always confused me about the
                location of the outdoor cage in PLANET was that I thought the buttes
                behind it (and I'm talking about what you see directly behind
                Cornelius and Zira when they kiss) are the same ones in front of Ape
                City (and Century Lake). Â But I've finally discovered they're not.
                Â In fact what they are are the buttes above the Rock Pool (the hoses
                either removed or turned off and hence no waterfall there).
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > When you first see Cornelius in PLANET you can see some of the
                Malibu Creek behind him. Â This is an area of the creek below both
                the Rock Pool and the Century Lake area (where Ape City was
                constructed).
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > The outdoor cage was built atop the stone foundation of a Club
                Lodge that Fox removed after they bought the property in the forties.
                Â You can see the outline of the foundation in the crane shot of the
                outdoor cage, and the stone steps that Cornelius and Zira climb to
                get to the cage are actually the old steps to the lodge. Â They're
                still there and can be clearly seen on Google Earth.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > By the way, the small "Ape House" in front of the steps is built
                against a hugh slab of rock, the other side of which appears later as
                the "Ape Council" meeting place in BATTLE.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > I'm going to try in the future to get a good map made of these
                things. Â In the meantime, I'm sure many of you will be confused.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > -- Rory
                >
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