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On 6/22/08, ~~Joanne~~ <josievan@...> wrote:

Great job!   --- On Sun, 6/22/08, Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote: From: Jeff <skintricks@...> Subject: [pota] costume To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 10:56 PM My Zira costume is 90% finished.  For some reason, when Lacey tried the costume on, it didn't fit correctly on her shoulders.  I have to work on it.  It's made with pant cloth (denim), but looks like polished cotton in these pics.  I'm most proud of the shoes.  I should have the glyph on it by next week and her prosthetics done.  When it's complete I'll put up some pics.   Jeff B

On 6/23/08, LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

In a message dated 6/22/2008 10:03:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, skintricks@... writes:

My Zira costume is 90% finished.  For some reason, when Lacey tried the costume on, it didn't fit correctly on her shoulders. 

 

If you listen to both Kim's and Paula's accounts

of the Zira #1, it was cut to slouch at the shoulders.

Kim wore a padded hump on the back of her shoulders.

If you have the POTA magazine with the Paula Crist

interview there are pictures of her standing upright

shoulders back in a correct posture and it just looks

wrong.  Then in the next pic she slumps her shoulders

forward and it all falls into place.  It's just cut that way.

 

 

 

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On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

Wow!!  VERY INTERESTING!! I didn't know about the padded costume!!!

 

Jessica.

 

On 6/23/08, LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

In a message dated 6/22/2008 10:03:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, skintricks@... writes:

My Zira costume is 90% finished.  For some reason, when Lacey tried the costume on, it didn't fit correctly on her shoulders. 

 

If you listen to both Kim's and Paula's accounts

of the Zira #1, it was cut to slouch at the shoulders.

Kim wore a padded hump on the back of her shoulders.

If you have the POTA magazine with the Paula Crist

interview there are pictures of her standing upright

shoulders back in a correct posture and it just looks

wrong.  Then in the next pic she slumps her shoulders

forward and it all falls into place.  It's just cut that way.

 

 

 

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--- On Mon, 6/23/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

> From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
> Subject: [pota] SMASH magazine rare poster
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 12:50 PM
> ?ONE HUNDRED BUCKS! Plus postage of course.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-OF-THE-APES-SMASH-MAGAZINE-WITH-RARE-POSTER_W0QQitemZ110264463899QQihZ001QQcategoryZ16469QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Bruce

Cinema Retro has done a short write up on the mirror of our group website (http://www.potamedi aarchive. com/). Be sure to head over the Cinema Retro website (http://www.cinemare tro.com/) and check it out.

Since this website is run by the guy who'll be doing the book that's going to sell with the Blu-ray DVDs, it might be a good idea for some of us to contact him and send him anything that we think he might want to see or know.  I plan to send him an interview with Frank Schaffner I found in a "Films in Review" in 1969 (as soon as I can locate what I did with it!).  His name is Lee Pfeiffer and he can be reached at cinemaretrto@...

-- Rory


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Sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 9:35 am
Subject: [pota] Cinema Retro

Cinema Retro has done a short write up on the mirror of our group website (http://www.potamedi aarchive. com/). Be sure to head over the Cinema Retro website (http://www.cinemare tro.com/) and check it out.

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ONE HUNDRED BUCKS! Plus postage of course.

http://cgi.ebay. com/PLANET- OF-THE-APES- SMASH-MAGAZINE- WITH-RARE- POSTER_W0QQitemZ 110264463899QQih Z001QQcategoryZ1 6469QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

Bruce

I have that.  Anyone want to send me $100 for it, I'll send it to you postage free.

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I won this recently on ebay and have always thought it was very cool....!
I know it is not an official product.....
does anyone know any specifics about this ?
Thanks...
Tim

I don't know anything about it, except it might possibly date back to the eighties or even seventies.

-- Rory

 

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After watching the behind the scenes and seeing the process that Roddy McDowall went through, I kindda felt bad for him. I know it's all part of the job, but it seemed like that whole process would take about six hours or more.....

--
Best Regards,
Colin D Snow

It took more like three hours.  I just read an interview with a makeup guy (can't recall the name now) in the latest issue of "Filmfax" who worked on the first two APES films, BATTLE and the TV series, he he tells how some of the actors would start to freak out sometimes with putting the makeup on.  One time Claude Akins just jumped out of the chair and paced around the makeup trail for several minutes before he could be put back in his chair to be finished.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I won this recently on ebay and have always thought it was very
cool....!
> I know it is not an official product.....
> does anyone know any specifics about this ?
> Thanks...
> Tim
>
>
> I don't know anything about it, except it might possibly date back to
the eighties or even seventies.
>
> -- Rory
>

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From: jessica rotich

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:02 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] costume

Jeff, which part of the costume did you find most difficult to work on?

 

Jessica.

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:

Wow!!  VERY INTERESTING! ! I didn't know about the padded costume!!!

 

Jessica.

 

On 6/23/08, LordTZer0@aol. com <LordTZer0@aol. com> wrote:

In a message dated 6/22/2008 10:03:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, skintricks@cox. net writes:

My Zira costume is 90% finished.  For some reason, when Lacey tried the costume on, it didn't fit correctly on her shoulders. 

 

If you listen to both Kim's and Paula's accounts

of the Zira #1, it was cut to slouch at the shoulders.

Kim wore a padded hump on the back of her shoulders.

If you have the POTA magazine with the Paula Crist

interview there are pictures of her standing upright

shoulders back in a correct posture and it just looks

wrong.  Then in the next pic she slumps her shoulders

forward and it all falls into place.  It's just cut that way.

 

 

 

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--- On Sun, 6/22/08, Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote:

> From: Jeff <skintricks@...>
> Subject: [pota] costume
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 10:56 PM
> My Zira costume is 90% finished. For some reason, when
> Lacey tried the costume on, it didn't fit correctly on
> her shoulders. I have to work on it. It's made with
> pant cloth (denim), but looks like polished cotton in these
> pics. I'm most proud of the shoes. I should have the
> glyph on it by next week and her prosthetics done. When
> it's complete I'll put up some pics.
>
> Jeff B

--- On Mon, 6/23/08, drhasslein <drhasslein@...> wrote:

> From: drhasslein <drhasslein@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: does anybody know...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 7:19 PM
> I thought it was mid 90's because almost every dealer at
> every show I
> attended in 97 had them, and there were several ads for it
> in Toy shop,
> always for $40-60. They seemed to disappear overnight, and
> unfortunately I never picked one up.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I won this recently on ebay and have always thought it
> was very
> cool....!
> > I know it is not an official product.....
> > does anyone know any specifics about this ?
> > Thanks...
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > I don't know anything about it, except it might
> possibly date back to
> the eighties or even seventies.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Tim apefan <apefan23@...> wrote:

Just found this on imdb.....

Bergman Regretted Turning Down 'Planet of the Apes'

27 April 2004 | From wenn.com | See recent WENN news

Revered actress Ingrid Bergman's greatest regret during her illustrious career was turning down the opportunity to appear in Planet Of The Apes. The Casablanca star was offered a part in the 1968 movie opposite Charlton Heston and, according to her actress daughter Isabella Rossellini, was keen to appear so she could "disregard her regal bearing". Rossellini tells London's Time Out newspaper, "She badly regretted turning down a part in the Planet Of The Apes franchise. I remember going to see one of those monkey movies with her and she was astounded at how well it had turned out. I know she was tired of playing roles which wouldn't allow her to discard her regal bearing. I think she realized that all those putty muzzles the ape actors would have liberated her from her image in an instant. But she hesitated, the part went to someone else, and she and Charlton Heston never again came as close to working together."

I made a Planet of the Apes movie using Super-8 film back around 1976 with some college and high school friends.  We never finished it; but I got out the old projector and showed the reel of film I have left (my ex never gave me the other reels) and he thought it was pretty good (other than the fact it was silent). 
 
The costuming was the hardest part of the film.  I created the plaster molds for the latex masks (chimp, orangutan and gorilla) using clay.  I had full face masks for the background apes and partial face masks for the main characters.  I didn't figure out how to do latex foam; so they were all latex rubber.  The full face masks just had long black, brown or orange fake fur.  The other apes with the appliances wore wigs I had bought from second hand stores.  The hands had gloves made from nylons, with no fingers, and sewn on wig hair. 
 
I agree that the hardest costumes to make were the gorillas uniforms because each of the horizontal ribs had to be sewn with a string for the raised line and then folded over and sewn along the edge onto the vest.  This was no easy task using vinyl (I used brown fake leather).  The snaps on the ammo belts were made from plaster molds and the boxes on the belt were made of black painted wood.  The boots were really just vinyl cuffs worn over brown shoes.  I didn't bother with the toed boots or shoes.  So I was impressed by the shoes in the photographs of the costume in this thread.  The gloves were made by hand too and had the same ribbing as the vests.  The pants and sleeves were made from brown cloth. 
 
The chimp and orangutan suits were not as difficult as the gorilla to make.  Though I never knew about the padding in the original costumes.  The "leather" collars on the chimp and orangutan suits were somewhat difficult too.  Most didn't have more than the darts extending around the chimp's neck because the relief symbols were a pain to sew.  Especially Dr Zais's collar. 
 
The rifles were made from 2x4 pine studs and cut to the ape rifle shape using a jigsaw.  The barrels were made from small diameter pipe. 
 
Some day I'll have to have what film I have left transferred to digital video.  It is now old and has brown spots; so I probably would need to be cleaned professionally first and some of the splices would need to be redone as some are broken. 
 
It was a lot of fun making the movie back then though my family all thought I was way too nerdy.  My brother still teases me about making "monkey movies".  lol.
 
Brian
 
 
 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian P

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:04 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] costume

I made a Planet of the Apes movie using Super-8 film back around 1976 with some college and high school friends.  We never finished it; but I got out the old projector and showed the reel of film I have left (my ex never gave me the other reels) and he thought it was pretty good (other than the fact it was silent). 
 
The costuming was the hardest part of the film.  I created the plaster molds for the latex masks (chimp, orangutan and gorilla) using clay.  I had full face masks for the background apes and partial face masks for the main characters.  I didn't figure out how to do latex foam; so they were all latex rubber.  The full face masks just had long black, brown or orange fake fur.  The other apes with the appliances wore wigs I had bought from second hand stores.  The hands had gloves made from nylons, with no fingers, and sewn on wig hair. 
 
I agree that the hardest costumes to make were the gorillas uniforms because each of the horizontal ribs had to be sewn with a string for the raised line and then folded over and sewn along the edge onto the vest.  This was no easy task using vinyl (I used brown fake leather).  The snaps on the ammo belts were made from plaster molds and the boxes on the belt were made of black painted wood.  The boots were really just vinyl cuffs worn over brown shoes.  I didn't bother with the toed boots or shoes.  So I was impressed by the shoes in the photographs of the costume in this thread.  The gloves were made by hand too and had the same ribbing as the vests.  The pants and sleeves were made from brown cloth. 
 
The chimp and orangutan suits were not as difficult as the gorilla to make.  Though I never knew about the padding in the original costumes.  The "leather" collars on the chimp and orangutan suits were somewhat difficult too.  Most didn't have more than the darts extending around the chimp's neck because the relief symbols were a pain to sew.  Especially Dr Zais's collar. 
 
The rifles were made from 2x4 pine studs and cut to the ape rifle shape using a jigsaw.  The barrels were made from small diameter pipe. 
 
Some day I'll have to have what film I have left transferred to digital video.  It is now old and has brown spots; so I probably would need to be cleaned professionally first and some of the splices would need to be redone as some are broken. 
 
It was a lot of fun making the movie back then though my family all thought I was way too nerdy.  My brother still teases me about making "monkey movies".  lol.
 
Brian
 
 
 

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> Do they sell Filmfax magazine in UK?

>
> Just found this on imdb.....
>
> Bergman Regretted Turning Down 'Planet of the Apes'
>
> 27 April 2004 | From wenn.com | See recent WENN news
>
> Revered actress Ingrid Bergman's greatest regret during her

>

That DOES sound cool! I got as far as writing a (bad) APES script in the 70's-that's it.

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@ shaw.ca>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 3:19 am
Subject: Re: [pota] costume home made film

Hey Brian sounds very cool

Would love to see you transfer your footage before it deteroriates any more

sounds like you had lots of fun

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian P

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:04 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] costume

I made a Planet of the Apes movie using Super-8 film back around 1976 with some college and high school friends.  We never finished it; but I got out the old projector and showed the reel of film I have left (my ex never gave me the other reels) and he thought it was pretty good (other than the fact it was silent). 
 
The costuming was the hardest part of the film.  I created the plaster molds for the latex masks (chimp, orangutan and gorilla) using clay.  I had full face masks for the background apes and partial face masks for the main characters.  I didn't figure out how to do latex foam; so they were all latex rubber.  The full face masks just had long black, brown or orange fake fur.  The other apes with the appliances wore wigs I had bought from second hand stores.  The hands had gloves made from nylons, with no fingers, and sewn on wig hair. 
 
I agree that the hardest costumes to make were the gorillas uniforms because each of the horizontal ribs had to be sewn with a string for the raised line and then folded over and sewn along the edge onto the vest.  This was no easy task using vinyl (I used brown fake leather).  The snaps on the ammo belts were made from plaster molds and the boxes on the belt were made of black painted wood.  The boots were really just vinyl cuffs worn over brown shoes.  I didn't bother with the toed boots or shoes.  So I was impressed by the shoes in the photographs of the costume in this thread.  The gloves were made by hand too and had the same ribbing as the vests.  The pants and sleeves were made from brown cloth. 
 
The chimp and orangutan suits were not as difficult as the gorilla to make.  Though I never knew about the padding in the original costumes.  The "leather" collars on the chimp and orangutan suits were somewhat difficult too.  Most didn't have more than the darts extending around the chimp's neck because the relief symbols were a pain to sew.  Especially Dr Zais's collar. 
 
The rifles were made from 2x4 pine studs and cut to the ape rifle shape using a jigsaw.  The barrels were made from small diameter pipe. 
 
Some day I'll have to have what film I have left transferred to digital video.  It is now old and has brown spots; so I probably would need to be cleaned professionally first and some of the splices would need to be redone as some are broken. 
 
It was a lot of fun making the movie back then though my family all thought I was way too nerdy.  My brother still teases me about making "monkey movies".  lol.
 
Brian
 
 
 

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--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Brian P <brianspro@...> wrote:

> From: Brian P <brianspro@...>
> Subject: RE: [pota] costume
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 1:04 AM
> I made a Planet of the Apes movie using Super-8 film back
> around 1976 with some college and high school friends. We
> never finished it; but I got out the old projector and
> showed the reel of film I have left (my ex never gave me
> the other reels) and he thought it was pretty good (other
> than the fact it was silent).
>
> The costuming was the hardest part of the film. I created
> the plaster molds for the latex masks (chimp, orangutan and
> gorilla) using clay. I had full face masks for the
> background apes and partial face masks for the main
> characters. I didn't figure out how to do latex foam;
> so they were all latex rubber. The full face masks just
> had long black, brown or orange fake fur. The other apes
> with the appliances wore wigs I had bought from second hand
> stores. The hands had gloves made from nylons, with no
> fingers, and sewn on wig hair.
>
> I agree that the hardest costumes to make were the gorillas
> uniforms because each of the horizontal ribs had to be sewn
> with a string for the raised line and then folded over and
> sewn along the edge onto the vest. This was no easy task
> using vinyl (I used brown fake leather). The snaps on the
> ammo belts were made from plaster molds and the boxes on
> the belt were made of black painted wood. The boots were
> really just vinyl cuffs worn over brown shoes. I
> didn't bother with the toed boots or shoes. So I was
> impressed by the shoes in the photographs of the costume in
> this thread. The gloves were made by hand too and had the
> same ribbing as the vests. The pants and sleeves were made
> from brown cloth.
>
> The chimp and orangutan suits were not as difficult as the
> gorilla to make. Though I never knew about the padding in
> the original costumes. The "leather" collars on
> the chimp and orangutan suits were somewhat difficult too.
> Most didn't have more than the darts extending around
> the chimp's neck because the relief symbols were a pain
> to sew. Especially Dr Zais's collar.
>
> The rifles were made from 2x4 pine studs and cut to the ape
> rifle shape using a jigsaw. The barrels were made from
> small diameter pipe.
>
> Some day I'll have to have what film I have left
> transferred to digital video. It is now old and has brown
> spots; so I probably would need to be cleaned
> professionally first and some of the splices would need to
> be redone as some are broken.
>
> It was a lot of fun making the movie back then though my
> family all thought I was way too nerdy. My brother still
> teases me about making "monkey movies". lol.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> _____

On 6/24/08, shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:

Wow.Apes STILL surprises me! She would have been the sort of star
Arthur Jacobs would have tried to recruit.Just imagine--Ingrid
Bergman as a chimp!Not sure if she'd have had that playful ,
misbehaving quality that Kim gave Zira, but who knows? What next? Was
John Wayne up to play Cornelius?!! John, Scrolls.
>
> Just found this on imdb.....
>
> Bergman Regretted Turning Down 'Planet of the Apes'
>
> 27 April 2004 | From wenn.com | See recent WENN news
>
> Revered actress Ingrid Bergman's greatest regret during her
illustrious career was turning down the opportunity to appear in
Planet Of The Apes. The Casablanca star was offered a part in the
1968 movie opposite Charlton Heston and, according to her actress
daughter Isabella Rossellini, was keen to appear so she
could "disregard her regal bearing". Rossellini tells London's Time
Out newspaper, "She badly regretted turning down a part in the Planet
Of The Apes franchise. I remember going to see one of those monkey
movies with her and she was astounded at how well it had turned out.
I know she was tired of playing roles which wouldn't allow her to
discard her regal bearing. I think she realized that all those putty
muzzles the ape actors would have liberated her from her image in an
instant. But she hesitated, the part went to someone else, and she
and Charlton Heston never again came as close to working together."
>

Wow.Apes STILL surprises me! She would have been the sort of star
Arthur Jacobs would have tried to recruit.Just imagine--Ingrid
Bergman as a chimp!Not sure if she'd have had that playful ,
misbehaving quality that Kim gave Zira, but who knows? What next? Was
John Wayne up to play Cornelius?!! John, Scrolls.

I would like to have seen how Nancy Kwan would have been as Zira.

-- Rory

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Well, since we are on the subject of regrets, anybody see this clip? Take it with a grain of salt though...not sure if he's serious or just chiding. Still nice to hear his voice again.

http://www.videosif t.com/video/ Charlton- Heston-Regrets- Not-Doing- Planet-of- the-Apes- Sequels

Jessica.

Yeah, I've seen that before, but there's a sad thing about it in that Heston doesn't recall that it was Edward G. Robinson in the screen test, not Maurice Evans.

The series sure would have been very different if Heston had wanted to be in every sequel, but by the time you got to the fifth film (or beyond) it would have been "Escape from the Planet of Chuck's Toupee."

-- Rory

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There is an interesting article re the removal of film grain on blu-ray
releases, using the new Patton release , a FOX film, as the poster
child. Now, I have a fear they may implement the same technology on the
POTA release.

http://www.thedigit albits.com/ articles/ robertharris/ harris062408..html"

Yeah, I'm truly not that excited over the upcoming POTA Blu-ray release. I mean, I'm keeping my figures crossed that the extras will be worth the wait, but in terms of seeing a transfer of the film (I'm talking the original) that will blow me away, well the current standard anamorphic DVD (though not perfect) is pretty good. I don't have a Blu-ray DVD player yet, but when I go into Best Buy or wherever and look at the displays of Blu-ray discs, though I see it's sharper and clearer than standard DVDs -- it ain't that much better! I think Blu-ray and HD in general really only makes a big difference to those with large screen projection home theatres. I'm able to watch DVDs on 50" plasma TVs, and in progressive scan they look pretty damn good. Yeah, sometimes there's annoying digital artifacts, but generally it's OK.

So, all I can say is if you're happy with standard DVDs, there's nothing wrong with that. As far as Blu-ray goes, with the economy the way it is, and threatening to get even worse, it's probably a good idea to hang onto your money. Let's see what the extras will be, but as far as the new transfers go? I thought there were problems with BENEATH in the Legacy release -- too bright and sometimes off color (the gorillas during Ursus' speech) -- and I'm hoping that thy don't do the same to PLANET. Only time will tell.

And so we wait.

-- Rory

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There is an interesting article re the removal of film grain on blu-ray
releases, using the new Patton release , a FOX film, as the poster
child. Now, I have a fear they may implement the same technology on the
POTA release.

http://www.thedigit albits.com/ articles/ robertharris/ harris062408..html"

--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

> From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 7:25 PM
> There is an interesting article re the removal of film grain
> on blu-ray
>
> releases, using the new Patton release , a FOX film, as the
> poster
>
> child. Now, I have a fear they may implement the same
> technology on the
>
> POTA release.
>
>
>
> http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/robertharris/harris062408.html"
>
> Yeah, I'm truly not that excited over the upcoming POTA
> Blu-ray release. I mean, I'm keeping my figures
> crossed that the extras will be worth the wait, but in
> terms of seeing a transfer of the film (I'm talking the
> original) that will blow me away, well the current standard
> anamorphic DVD (though not perfect) is pretty good. I
> don't have a Blu-ray DVD player yet, but when I go into
> Best Buy or wherever and look at the displays of Blu-ray
> discs, though I see it's sharper and clearer than
> standard DVDs -- it ain't that much better! I think
> Blu-ray and HD in general really only makes a big
> difference to those with large screen projection home
> theatres. I'm able to watch DVDs on 50" plasma
> TVs, and in progressive scan they look pretty damn good.
> Yeah, sometimes there's annoying digital artifacts,
> but generally it's OK.
>
>
>
> So, all I can say is if you're happy with standard
> DVDs, there's nothing wrong with that. As far as
> Blu-ray goes, with the economy the way it is, and
> threatening to get even worse, it's probably a good
> idea to hang onto your money. Let's see what the
> extras will be, but as far as the new transfers go? I
> thought there were problems with BENEATH in the Legacy
> release -- too bright and sometimes off color (the gorillas
> during Ursus' speech) -- and I'm hoping that thy
> don't do the same to PLANET. Only time will tell.
>
>
>
>
> And so we wait.
>
>
>
>
> -- Rory

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian P

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:04 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] costume

I made a Planet of the Apes movie using Super-8 film back around 1976 with some college and high school friends.  We never finished it; but I got out the old projector and showed the reel of film I have left (my ex never gave me the other reels) and he thought it was pretty good (other than the fact it was silent). 
 
The costuming was the hardest part of the film.  I created the plaster molds for the latex masks (chimp, orangutan and gorilla) using clay.  I had full face masks for the background apes and partial face masks for the main characters.  I didn't figure out how to do latex foam; so they were all latex rubber.  The full face masks just had long black, brown or orange fake fur.  The other apes with the appliances wore wigs I had bought from second hand stores.  The hands had gloves made from nylons, with no fingers, and sewn on wig hair. 
 
I agree that the hardest costumes to make were the gorillas uniforms because each of the horizontal ribs had to be sewn with a string for the raised line and then folded over and sewn along the edge onto the vest.  This was no easy task using vinyl (I used brown fake leather).  The snaps on the ammo belts were made from plaster molds and the boxes on the belt were made of black painted wood.  The boots were really just vinyl cuffs worn over brown shoes.  I didn't bother with the toed boots or shoes.  So I was impressed by the shoes in the photographs of the costume in this thread.  The gloves were made by hand too and had the same ribbing as the vests.  The pants and sleeves were made from brown cloth. 
 
The chimp and orangutan suits were not as difficult as the gorilla to make.  Though I never knew about the padding in the original costumes.  The "leather" collars on the chimp and orangutan suits were somewhat difficult too.  Most didn't have more than the darts extending around the chimp's neck because the relief symbols were a pain to sew.  Especially Dr Zais's collar. 
 
The rifles were made from 2x4 pine studs and cut to the ape rifle shape using a jigsaw.  The barrels were made from small diameter pipe. 
 
Some day I'll have to have what film I have left transferred to digital video.  It is now old and has brown spots; so I probably would need to be cleaned professionally first and some of the splices would need to be redone as some are broken. 
 
It was a lot of fun making the movie back then though my family all thought I was way too nerdy.  My brother still teases me about making "monkey movies".  lol.
 
Brian
 
 
 

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From: drhasslein

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:55 PM

Subject: [pota] POTA Blu-Ray Fear

There is an interesting article re the removal of film grain on blu-ray
releases, using the new Patton release , a FOX film, as the poster
child. Now, I have a fear they may implement the same technology on the
POTA release.

http://www.thedigit albits.com/ articles/ robertharris/ harris062408..html"

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I hadn't said anything before cause I didn't want to jinx it but...I for one am looking forward to the Blu Ray POTA...

remember a while ago, some guy was asking about people's collections? Well he was from a company making some extras for that very BluRay POTA! Since I live all the way across the country from LA and Fox "didn't have the money" to fly over here to film my collection.. .I took some super cool pics of my stuff and sent them over to the West Coast and Gavin (that's the guy) said that they loved the pics and are going to use them in the extra feature on collectables! So finally collecting all this crap pays off....although not really "pays"....

so if I have jinxed it and they don't use them now, so be it. Gavin didn't have much info on any other extras but he did seem to think that they have dug up deleted Conquest scenes!....and that's all I know.

Of course I ain't got a Blu Ray machine either....maybe I'll rent one when the disc comes out .....

Anyway...that' s my news...

Tim

--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:

> From: Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com>
> Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 7:25 PM
> There is an interesting article re the removal of film grain
> on blu-ray
>
> releases, using the new Patton release , a FOX film, as the
> poster
>
> child. Now, I have a fear they may implement the same
> technology on the
>
> POTA release.
>
>
>
> http://www.thedigit albits.com/ articles/ robertharris/ harris062408..html"
>
> Yeah, I'm truly not that excited over the upcoming POTA
> Blu-ray release.  I mean, I'm keeping my figures
> crossed that the extras will be worth the wait, but in
> terms of seeing a transfer of the film (I'm talking the
> original) that will blow me away, well the current standard
> anamorphic DVD (though not perfect) is pretty good.  I
> don't have a Blu-ray DVD player yet, but when I go into
> Best Buy or wherever and look at the displays of Blu-ray
> discs, though I see it's sharper and clearer than
> standard DVDs -- it ain't that much better!  I think
> Blu-ray and HD in general really only makes a big
> difference to those with large screen projection home
> theatres.  I'm able to watch DVDs on 50" plasma
> TVs, and in progressive scan they look pretty damn good.
>  Yeah, sometimes there's annoying digital artifacts,
> but generally it's OK.
>
>
>
> So, all I can say is if you're happy with standard
> DVDs, there's nothing wrong with that.  As far as
> Blu-ray goes, with the economy the way it is, and
> threatening to get even worse, it's probably a good
> idea to hang onto your money.  Let's see what the
> extras will be, but as far as the new transfers go?  I
> thought there were problems with BENEATH in the Legacy
> release -- too bright and sometimes off color (the gorillas
> during Ursus' speech) -- and I'm hoping that thy
> don't do the same to PLANET.  Only time will tell.
>
>
>
>
> And so we wait.
>
>
>
>
> -- Rory

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:36 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: What might have been

In a message dated 6/24/2008 10:37:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@ gmail.com writes:

Well, since we are on the subject of regrets, anybody see this clip?  Take it with a grain of salt though...not sure if he's serious or just chiding.

 

Shatner felt the same way about Star Trek.

After the series he did want to do those

conventions, but he was broke and when

he found out how much they paid he

couldn't wait to do them and was

hoping for even a low budget film.

Then Star Wars came out and

got the green lit for a feature.

 

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