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Group: pota Message: 47116 From: scott bosco Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Group: pota Message: 47117 From: Stuart Drucker Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Group: pota Message: 47118 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Group: pota Message: 47119 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
Group: pota Message: 47120 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47121 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47122 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear
Group: pota Message: 47123 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Group: pota Message: 47124 From: rob reading Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47125 From: rob reading Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47126 From: scott bosco Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear
Group: pota Message: 47127 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47128 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47129 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Group: pota Message: 47130 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Group: pota Message: 47131 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
Group: pota Message: 47132 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: And so it begins....
Group: pota Message: 47133 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47134 From: rob reading Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47135 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47136 From: Jeff Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: costume
Group: pota Message: 47137 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47138 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47139 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47140 From: drhasslein Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear
Group: pota Message: 47141 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Group: pota Message: 47142 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear
Group: pota Message: 47143 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Group: pota Message: 47144 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Group: pota Message: 47145 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear - DIvix
Group: pota Message: 47146 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
Group: pota Message: 47147 From: Bobby Smyth Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Group: pota Message: 47149 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47150 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47151 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Beneath the Planet of the Apes, 6/26/2008, 8:30 am
Group: pota Message: 47152 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
Group: pota Message: 47153 From: James Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Hulu.com
Group: pota Message: 47154 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: Hulu.com
Group: pota Message: 47155 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: Hulu.com
Group: pota Message: 47156 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: Hulu.com
Group: pota Message: 47157 From: scott bosco Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear - DIvix
Group: pota Message: 47158 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: Hulu.com
Group: pota Message: 47159 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
Group: pota Message: 47160 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47161 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
Group: pota Message: 47162 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: Hulu.com
Group: pota Message: 47163 From: Mark Taylor Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: POTA from Brazil (1976)
Group: pota Message: 47164 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/26/2008
Subject: Re: Hulu.com
Group: pota Message: 47165 From: William Burge Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: apes ad 68
Group: pota Message: 47166 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Beneath Mutants
Group: pota Message: 47167 From: Kevin Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: Beneath Mutants
Group: pota Message: 47168 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 47169 From: James Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Cornelius' Journal
Group: pota Message: 47170 From: Dave B Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: Beneath Mutants
Group: pota Message: 47171 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear - DIvix
Group: pota Message: 47172 From: James Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: Beneath Mutants
Group: pota Message: 47173 From: James Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: Beneath Mutants
Group: pota Message: 47174 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: POTA from Brazil (1976)
Group: pota Message: 47175 From: Dave B Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Wanted
Group: pota Message: 47176 From: scott bosco Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: Wanted
Group: pota Message: 47177 From: 0 Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
Group: pota Message: 47178 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
Group: pota Message: 47179 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 47180 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: costume
Group: pota Message: 47181 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: does anybody know...
Group: pota Message: 47182 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: What might have been
Group: pota Message: 47183 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: costume home made film
Group: pota Message: 47184 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
Group: pota Message: 47185 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: And so it begins....
Group: pota Message: 47186 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: apes ad 68
Group: pota Message: 47187 From: Mark Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: What might have been
Group: pota Message: 47188 From: Jeff Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: costume
Group: pota Message: 47189 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: costume home made film
Group: pota Message: 47190 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: What might have been
Group: pota Message: 47191 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: costume
Group: pota Message: 47192 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/27/2008
Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
Group: pota Message: 47193 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/28/2008
Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
Group: pota Message: 47194 From: scott bosco Date: 6/28/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
Group: pota Message: 47195 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/28/2008
Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
Group: pota Message: 47196 From: m c Date: 6/28/2008
Subject: Re: What might have been
Group: pota Message: 47197 From: m c Date: 6/28/2008
Subject: Re: What might have been
Group: pota Message: 47198 From: Bobby Smyth Date: 6/28/2008
Subject: Re: Wanted
Group: pota Message: 47199 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/28/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
Group: pota Message: 47200 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/28/2008
Subject: Anniversary Reminder
Group: pota Message: 47201 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: Cover poll
Group: pota Message: 47202 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: Hulkamania
Group: pota Message: 47203 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: Apes sights and sounds
Group: pota Message: 47204 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: What might have been
Group: pota Message: 47205 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
Group: pota Message: 47206 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: What might have been
Group: pota Message: 47207 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: MAJOR POTA NEWS!!!!
Group: pota Message: 47208 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: contact from Fox!!!
Group: pota Message: 47209 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: Stan Winston
Group: pota Message: 47210 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: never mind -- found it (and I was right)...
Group: pota Message: 47211 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in STAMFORD, CT
Group: pota Message: 47212 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: ESCAPE mysteries
Group: pota Message: 47213 From: James Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: Anniversary Reminder
Group: pota Message: 47214 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: Anniversary Reminder
Group: pota Message: 47215 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: never mind -- found it (and I was right)...
Group: pota Message: 47216 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/29/2008
Subject: Re: ESCAPE mysteries



Group: pota Message: 47116 From: scott bosco Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
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watch this version...
 
 
Scott B.

"Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
All the blogs keep comparing the season finale of Battlestar Galactica to POTA. I don't watch the show but here is the last scene on You Tube. Don't watch if you watch the show and haven't seen it.....!

SPOILER ALERT

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=7c6Leg7MGQE

Tim


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Group: pota Message: 47117 From: Stuart Drucker Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
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That’s funnier than the original ending.

 

Stuart

 

 


From: pota@yahoogroups.com [ pota@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of scott bosco
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:49 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Battlestar

 

watch this version...

 

 

Scott B.

"Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@yahoo. com> wrote:

All the blogs keep comparing the season finale of Battlestar Galactica to POTA. I don't watch the show but here is the last scene on You Tube. Don't watch if you watch the show and haven't seen it.....!

SPOILER ALERT

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=7c6Leg7MGQE

Tim

 

 

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Group: pota Message: 47118 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
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That's more like it!

Bruce
watch this version...
 
 
Scott B.





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Group: pota Message: 47119 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
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I finally got my hands on the contact sheet from the 1968 POTA of the deleted/shortened scenes of Taylor running (and swimming ) through Ape City. I thought I downloaded an image I had of the original a while ago in the files but can't find it...when I get this in the mail I'll re-scan it and add it again.

Bruce. 
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Group: pota Message: 47120 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
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Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.


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Group: pota Message: 47121 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
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Were people not buying the first sculpt?

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.



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Group: pota Message: 47122 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear
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More than likely FOX is also preparing a standard DVD release of POTA along side the Blu one, and it will have the galleries, featurettes, and whatever else. 
I'm not so sure about that.  Fox doesn't seem to be doing that with anything else they've released on Blu-ray so far.  Of course, the standard DVD releases of recent Blu-ray editions of PATTON, THE SAND PEBBLES, etc., were all previously released.  However, the forthcoming BATMAN - THE MOVIE is an upgrade of the standard DVD released years ago, and has new extras beside the upgraded transfer.  Fox having put out the "Head" and Legacy editions of APES only three years ago, and they're still on store shelves, I doubt there will be anything but a Blu-ray edition -- which I think is now scheduled for November.  Also, Fox has to promote the format.  How can they do that if the release standard versions too?

-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 47123 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
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they called it the "spring finale".  I read somewhere that there will be another 6 or 8 episodes and then that will be it.  I think the strike screwed up their plan.

 

Joanne

 


--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
From: Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...>
Subject: Re: [pota] Battlestar
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 11:32 AM

I LOVE the new BSG, and though the scene people are refering to didnt go 100% to POTA, it was definately a tip of the hat. And I dont think it's the finale-because after the scene in question it says theres still more to come.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Tim apefan <apefan23@yahoo. com> wrote:

All the blogs keep comparing the season finale of Battlestar Galactica to POTA. I don't watch the show but here is the last scene on You Tube. Don't watch if you watch the show and haven't seen it.....!

SPOILER ALERT

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=7c6Leg7MGQE

Tim




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
www.brokensea. net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokense a.com and
http://www.westlake films.co. uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokense a.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokense a.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea. com/conan/

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Group: pota Message: 47124 From: rob reading Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
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.html Hi Jessica, apparently the neck and size of the head was wrong. I thought it was very good and bought one, as well as her Brent head. She said initially that the sales were poor and wasn't going to any further heads from the tv show. Then out of the blue she sent me those images asking my opinion on it. I said it was great and she was relieved as she had destroyed the first one. Ada said that I would be receiving the revised version for my purchase.
 
How are the costumes coming along, I can't wait. I saw tour astronaut suits, they look really good.
 
Rob



To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: jessicarotich@...
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:33 -0700
Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.






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Group: pota Message: 47125 From: rob reading Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
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.html Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
 
Rob



To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: jessicarotich@...
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

Were people not buying the first sculpt?

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.







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Group: pota Message: 47126 From: scott bosco Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear
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Because they're stupid.  To go out of their way and produce something that such a small percent of people will but is not a good business choice.  Then again, seeing the choices they've made in the past flies do go to shit.
Remember, they also were behind Divix years ago.
- Scott B.

Haristas@... wrote:

More than likely FOX is also preparing a standard DVD release of POTA along side the Blu one, and it will have the galleries, featurettes, and whatever else. 
I'm not so sure about that.  Fox doesn't seem to be doing that with anything else they've released on Blu-ray so far.  Of course, the standard DVD releases of recent Blu-ray editions of PATTON, THE SAND PEBBLES, etc., were all previously released.  However, the forthcoming BATMAN - THE MOVIE is an upgrade of the standard DVD released years ago, and has new extras beside the upgraded transfer.  Fox having put out the "Head" and Legacy editions of APES only three years ago, and they're still on store shelves, I doubt there will be anything but a Blu-ray edition -- which I think is now scheduled for November.  Also, Fox has to promote the format.  How can they do that if the release standard versions too?

-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 47127 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
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I was just stalling...wondering which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
 
Rob



To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: jessicarotich@...
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

Were people not buying the first sculpt?

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.







Get 5GB of online storage for free! Get it Now!


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Group: pota Message: 47128 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
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OK.  I just ordered myself two of the Burke heads, one painted, one unpainted, and another head so that I could get a fourth one free. 
 
The Burke/Virdon outfits are coming along, but I ran out of fabric for Virdon's shirt.  The original material I found at a secondhand store was actually just the sleeve part of a girls shirt, so there was very little fabric.  I am anxiously waiting for the fabric store to open their doors (they are opening their new fabric store July 11) so that I could purchase the correct material and dye it the appropriate color.
 
Jessica.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
I was just stalling...wondering which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.


On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
 
Rob



To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: jessicarotich@...
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

Were people not buying the first sculpt?

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.







Get 5GB of online storage for free! Get it Now!



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Group: pota Message: 47129 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
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It looked very cool and I do plan on watching the series sometime on DVD...I don't get Sci Fi....I didn't know if it was the finale or not...Very well done though!


--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:

> From: Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Battlestar
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 11:32 AM
> I LOVE the new BSG, and though the scene people are refering
> to didnt go
> 100% to POTA, it was definately a tip of the hat. And I
> dont think it's the
> finale-because after the scene in question it says theres
> still more to
> come.
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Tim apefan
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> > All the blogs keep comparing the season finale of
> Battlestar Galactica
> > to POTA. I don't watch the show but here is the
> last scene on You Tube.
> > Don't watch if you watch the show and haven't
> seen it.....!
> >
> > SPOILER ALERT
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c6Leg7MGQE
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> www.brokensea.net
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes at
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> http://brokensea.com/conan/
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Group: pota Message: 47130 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: Battlestar
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WOw it REALLY looks like POTA in that one!!!

lol


--- On Wed, 6/25/08, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:

> From: scott bosco <digitalcinema@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Battlestar
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 12:49 PM
> watch this version...
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbH6NbhfEVU&feature=related
>
> Scott B.
>
> "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
> All the blogs keep comparing the season finale of
> Battlestar Galactica to POTA. I don't watch the show but
> here is the last scene on You Tube. Don't watch if you
> watch the show and haven't seen it.....!
>
> SPOILER ALERT
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c6Leg7MGQE
>
> Tim
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Group: pota Message: 47131 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/25/2008
Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
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would love to see those....am collecting pics of Ape City from all angles...!


--- On Wed, 6/25/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

> From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
> Subject: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 3:29 PM
> I finally got my hands on the contact sheet from the 1968
> POTA of the deleted/shortened scenes of Taylor running (and
> swimming ) through Ape City. I thought I downloaded an image
> I had of the original a while ago in the files but can't
> find it...when I get this in the mail I'll re-scan it
> and add it again.
>
> Bruce.?
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    Group: pota Message: 47133 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/25/2008
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    Glad to hear that Virdon's outfit is so close to being finished.

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 5:16 PM

    OK.  I just ordered myself two of the Burke heads, one painted, one unpainted, and another head so that I could get a fourth one free. 
     
    The Burke/Virdon outfits are coming along, but I ran out of fabric for Virdon's shirt.  The original material I found at a secondhand store was actually just the sleeve part of a girls shirt, so there was very little fabric.  I am anxiously waiting for the fabric store to open their doors (they are opening their new fabric store July 11) so that I could purchase the correct material and dye it the appropriate color.
     
    Jessica.

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    I was just stalling...wonderin g which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    Were people not buying the first sculpt?

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
    superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.







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    Group: pota Message: 47134 From: rob reading Date: 6/25/2008
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    .html Nice to hear I am dealing with such a perfectionist, I look forward to the results. I would love to know your third and free choice, a nice batch to choose from, but who would want a Morgan Freeman doll?
     
    Rob



    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    From: jessicarotich@...
    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:16:15 -0700
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    OK.  I just ordered myself two of the Burke heads, one painted, one unpainted, and another head so that I could get a fourth one free. 
     
    The Burke/Virdon outfits are coming along, but I ran out of fabric for Virdon's shirt.  The original material I found at a secondhand store was actually just the sleeve part of a girls shirt, so there was very little fabric.  I am anxiously waiting for the fabric store to open their doors (they are opening their new fabric store July 11) so that I could purchase the correct material and dye it the appropriate color.
     
    Jessica.

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    I was just stalling...wonderin g which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    Were people not buying the first sculpt?

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
    superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.








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    Group: pota Message: 47135 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
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    I purchased the shorthaired Batgirl and ordered the George Reeve sculpt for free.  Don't ask me what I am going to do with all of these heads...

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

    Nice to hear I am dealing with such a perfectionist, I look forward to the results. I would love to know your third and free choice, a nice batch to choose from, but who would want a Morgan Freeman doll?
     
    Rob



    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    From: jessicarotich@...
    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:16:15 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    OK.  I just ordered myself two of the Burke heads, one painted, one unpainted, and another head so that I could get a fourth one free. 
     
    The Burke/Virdon outfits are coming along, but I ran out of fabric for Virdon's shirt.  The original material I found at a secondhand store was actually just the sleeve part of a girls shirt, so there was very little fabric.  I am anxiously waiting for the fabric store to open their doors (they are opening their new fabric store July 11) so that I could purchase the correct material and dye it the appropriate color.
     
    Jessica.

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    I was just stalling...wondering which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

    Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
     
    Rob



    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    From: jessicarotich@...
    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    Were people not buying the first sculpt?

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

    Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
    superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.








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    Group: pota Message: 47136 From: Jeff Date: 6/25/2008
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    I knew a Brian P from here in San Diego who also made  a super 8 Apes film back then.  I thought maybe you were him.
     
    Jeff B
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Brian P
    Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:15 AM
    Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [pota] costume

    Yes.  I am originally from San Jose, CA.  The film was titled "Journey to the Planet of the Apes" though I don't believe I ever added the title overlay.
     
    Shooting locations were around Half Moon Bay (Daryl P and Dan K cast as astronaut survivors of an ocean crash in Forbidden Zone swimming into shore), Scotts Valley sand pits and walls (walking across the Forbidden Zone), Castle Rock state park near Big Basin in Santa Cruz mountain range (astronauts finding vegetation and other wild humans, the Ape hunt and cave dig exterior to interior scene), Saratoga creek bed bridge tunnel near Prospect High School in Saratoga (interior of cave dig with concrete walled ruins of human city) wooded grounds near West Valley College (ape hunt), Cupertino (a large sunbaked and dry reservour used for more Forbidden Zone scenes) and concrete creek/lake bed and bridge on Westmont Ave near Westmont High School (used as part of Ape City and holding area / prison for humans) and some footage I made from photographs of the High Uintas rocky mountains around Hayden's Peak (14,000 feet) and rock canyon walls along the Green River that I had taken the year before while in Utah.  Lake Powell -- where original POTA and remake were shot -- would have been a great place to film had I had the time and money to travel to Utah for filming.  If I had finished I was to have the astronauts rescued by other arriving astronauts with M-16 rifles (was filmed in that dry reservour) and return to Earth.  The ending was never filmed.  It would have ended the same as the original novel with them arriving centuries later due to theory of relativity (book was 600 years I believe) and being greeted by a gorilla wearing a modern police uniform.  It would have been a similar ending as Tim Burton's film but without Lincoln Memorial... just the airport/spaceport location from the book. 
     
    Sadly, all that remains of the film reels are the ocean scenes at Half Moon Bay, Scotts Valley, Castle Rock and West Valley College wooded grounds.  Some small pieces cut from the other scenes are short snippets I saved on a small 50' reel.  The ending scene leading up to the return to earth and the encounter with Dr Zaius and astronaut where he proves his intelligence by diagramming an Icasules triangal (like he did in the book) and much of the prison yard scene and cave dig with the human doll (had great natural lighting) are nowhere to be found.  This was all stored in boxes in my home before I was divorced.  I think my ex-wife tossed most of everything she couldn't sell on EBay into a dumpster right before we sold the home.  These films included irreplacable 8mm and Super 8mm films of my parents and siblings when we were children.  They had been entrusted to me to convert to video.  Also related to POTA, I had every issue of the Planet of the Apes Marvel comic magazine, collector dolls, plastic styrene model kits and other POTA and Star Trek, Star Wars and other SciFi merchandise.  She doesn't "know" what happened to all of these.  What a shameful loss. 
     
    I also sold the full face masks at D & C Hobby in San Jose around that same year on commission as they were displayed on the window of the shop.  I wore the costumes to some Halloween parties for a few years.  I'm not sure whatever happened to the costumes, masks, plaster ape masks molds and other ape props.  Daryl P later moved to Los Angeles and Dan K moved to Santa Cruz.   
     
    Why do you ask?  Might I know you or perhaps you know one of the cast or crew from the film?  :)
     
     
     
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    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    From: skintricks@cox. net
    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:17:50 -0700
    Subject: Re: [pota] costume
     
    Brian P:  
     
    Are you from CA?
     
    Jeff B
    ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----
    From: Brian P
    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:04 PM
    Subject: RE: [pota] costume
     
    I made a Planet of the Apes movie using Super-8 film back around 1976 with some college and high school friends.  We never finished it; but I got out the old projector and showed the reel of film I have left (my ex never gave me the other reels) and he thought it was pretty good (other than the fact it was silent). 
     
    The costuming was the hardest part of the film.  I created the plaster molds for the latex masks (chimp, orangutan and gorilla) using clay.  I had full face masks for the background apes and partial face masks for the main characters.  I didn't figure out how to do latex foam; so they were all latex rubber.  The full face masks just had long black, brown or orange fake fur.  The other apes with the appliances wore wigs I had bought from second hand stores.  The hands had gloves made from nylons, with no fingers, and sewn on wig hair.
     
    I agree that the hardest costumes to make were the gorillas uniforms because each of the horizontal ribs had to be sewn with a string for the raised line and then folded over and sewn along the edge onto the vest.  This was no easy task using vinyl (I used brown fake leather).  The snaps on the ammo belts were made from plaster molds and the boxes on the belt were made of black painted wood.  The boots were really just vinyl cuffs worn over brown shoes.  I didn't bother with the toed boots or shoes.  So I was impressed by the shoes in the photographs of the costume in this thread.  The gloves were made by hand too and had the same ribbing as the vests.  The pants and sleeves were made from brown cloth. 
     
    The chimp and orangutan suits were not as difficult as the gorilla to make.  Though I never knew about the padding in the original costumes.  The "leather" collars on the chimp and orangutan suits were somewhat difficult too.  Most didn't have more than the darts extending around the chimp's neck because the relief symbols were a pain to sew.  Especially Dr Zais's collar. 
     
    The rifles were made from 2x4 pine studs and cut to the ape rifle shape using a jigsaw.  The barrels were made from small diameter pipe. 
     
    Some day I'll have to have what film I have left transferred to digital video.  It is now old and has brown spots; so I probably would need to be cleaned professionally first and some of the splices would need to be redone as some are broken. 
     
    It was a lot of fun making the movie back then though my family all thought I was way too nerdy.  My brother still teases me about making "monkey movies".  lol.
     
    Brian

     


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    Group: pota Message: 47137 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/25/2008
    Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
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    Are you saying that you might sew a Batgirl costume from the 1966 tv show?

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 8:11 PM

    I purchased the shorthaired Batgirl and ordered the George Reeve sculpt for free.  Don't ask me what I am going to do with all of these heads...

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Nice to hear I am dealing with such a perfectionist, I look forward to the results. I would love to know your third and free choice, a nice batch to choose from, but who would want a Morgan Freeman doll?
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:16:15 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    OK.  I just ordered myself two of the Burke heads, one painted, one unpainted, and another head so that I could get a fourth one free. 
     
    The Burke/Virdon outfits are coming along, but I ran out of fabric for Virdon's shirt.  The original material I found at a secondhand store was actually just the sleeve part of a girls shirt, so there was very little fabric.  I am anxiously waiting for the fabric store to open their doors (they are opening their new fabric store July 11) so that I could purchase the correct material and dye it the appropriate color.
     
    Jessica.

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    I was just stalling...wonderin g which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    Were people not buying the first sculpt?

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
    superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.








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    Group: pota Message: 47138 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
    Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
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    Yes, why not?  She is my favorite batgirl.  I just need photo references.

    On 6/25/08, Chris Hight <snickertown@...> wrote:

    Are you saying that you might sew a Batgirl costume from the 1966 tv show?

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 8:11 PM

    I purchased the shorthaired Batgirl and ordered the George Reeve sculpt for free.  Don't ask me what I am going to do with all of these heads...

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Nice to hear I am dealing with such a perfectionist, I look forward to the results. I would love to know your third and free choice, a nice batch to choose from, but who would want a Morgan Freeman doll?
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:16:15 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    OK.  I just ordered myself two of the Burke heads, one painted, one unpainted, and another head so that I could get a fourth one free. 
     
    The Burke/Virdon outfits are coming along, but I ran out of fabric for Virdon's shirt.  The original material I found at a secondhand store was actually just the sleeve part of a girls shirt, so there was very little fabric.  I am anxiously waiting for the fabric store to open their doors (they are opening their new fabric store July 11) so that I could purchase the correct material and dye it the appropriate color.
     
    Jessica.

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    I was just stalling...wonderin g which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

     
    Were people not buying the first sculpt?

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
    superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.




     


     


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    Group: pota Message: 47139 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/25/2008
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    SCORE!!!!  I couldn't resist and stopped by another fabric store on my way home.  I purchased the crinkle cotton, some fabric dye (need to experiment with this one)...AND some perfectly colored fabric for Burke's vest.  I know that Angelofmusic2112 sent me dyed fabric, but the colors were hard to match perfectly back and front and I didn't want any perfectionists complaining...you know how that goes...you always want to send out the best you possibly can.
     
    I also purchased a Mego 12" wonder woman that I plan to reroot hair, and then paint her face/body and hopefully turn her into Nova.  That's a future project.  She is missing one foot so I have to figure out how to replace that.
     
    Jessica.

     
    On 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    Yes, why not?  She is my favorite batgirl.  I just need photo references.


    On 6/25/08, Chris Hight <snickertown@...> wrote:

    Are you saying that you might sew a Batgirl costume from the 1966 tv show?

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 8:11 PM

    I purchased the shorthaired Batgirl and ordered the George Reeve sculpt for free.  Don't ask me what I am going to do with all of these heads...

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Nice to hear I am dealing with such a perfectionist, I look forward to the results. I would love to know your third and free choice, a nice batch to choose from, but who would want a Morgan Freeman doll?
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:16:15 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    OK.  I just ordered myself two of the Burke heads, one painted, one unpainted, and another head so that I could get a fourth one free. 
     
    The Burke/Virdon outfits are coming along, but I ran out of fabric for Virdon's shirt.  The original material I found at a secondhand store was actually just the sleeve part of a girls shirt, so there was very little fabric.  I am anxiously waiting for the fabric store to open their doors (they are opening their new fabric store July 11) so that I could purchase the correct material and dye it the appropriate color.
     
    Jessica.

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    I was just stalling...wonderin g which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

     
    Were people not buying the first sculpt?

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
    superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.




     


     


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    Group: pota Message: 47140 From: drhasslein Date: 6/25/2008
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    I was on the fence, but the fact that it is all the movies, Fox
    pushed me to the other side, and I'm going to bite. The prediction is
    that on Black Friday at least a couple of merchants will have players
    for $199... although that is a month or so after the POTA release...



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
    >
    >
    >>
    > So, all I can say is if you're happy with standard DVDs, there's
    nothing wrong with that. Â As far as Blu-ray goes, with the economy
    the way it is, and threatening to get even worse, it's probably a
    good idea to hang onto your money. Â Let's see what the extras will
    be, but as far as the new transfers go? Â I thought there were
    problems with BENEATH in the Legacy release -- too bright and
    sometimes off color (the gorillas during Ursus' speech) -- and I'm
    hoping that thy don't do the same to PLANET. Â Only time will tell.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > And so we wait.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > -- Rory
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 47141 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: Battlestar
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    Interesting mid season break ????
     
    Robert Mansell
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    To: POTA ; POTA DG
    Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:23 PM
    Subject: [pota] Battlestar

    All the blogs keep comparing the season finale of Battlestar Galactica to POTA. I don't watch the show but here is the last scene on You Tube. Don't watch if you watch the show and haven't seen it.....!

    SPOILER ALERT

    http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=7c6Leg7MGQE

    Tim



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    Group: pota Message: 47142 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/26/2008
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    But only if you invest in the TV to match, which I agree a lot of people do but what's the point in htrowing away a perfectly good DVD & TV player to then replace all your DVD's with Blu Ray for a better picture. I think a lot of the companies expect people to but there just isn't the disposable income available.
     
    Robert Mansell

     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dave B
    Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:42 PM
    Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear

    --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Robert Mansell" <robert.mansell@ ...> wrote:
    >
    > For me personally with all the DVD VHS, Blue Ray HD DVD stuff is
    that how good can pictures get and how well are they needed to be.
    >
    > I mean DVD was a big jump from VHS. Blu Ray, not sure........ .....

    How good is good enough is of course entirely subjective and up to the
    viewer. If you have an HD TV and a Blue ray player IMHO the leap in
    quality (Between Blue Ray and DVD) is astonishing! Just as big as the
    difference between VHS & DVD

    Dave

    >
    > Robert Mansell
    >
    > Take a look at my auctions on ebay.....
    > http://tinyurl. com/6x887
    >
    > The Doctor Who Store
    > http://www.freewebs .com/doctorwhoon dvd/
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: drhasslein
    > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:55 PM
    > Subject: [pota] POTA Blu-Ray Fear
    >
    >
    >
    > There is an interesting article re the removal of film grain on
    blu-ray
    > releases, using the new Patton release , a FOX film, as the poster
    > child. Now, I have a fear they may implement the same technology
    on the
    > POTA release.
    >
    > http://www.thedigit albits.com/ articles/ robertharris/ harris062408..html"
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    Group: pota Message: 47143 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/26/2008
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    It's a mid season break.....
     
    I did stop watching BSG from season 3, just missed it and never got back into it which is strange because I love the originals and the first two series.
     
    Robert Mansell

     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 4:32 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Battlestar

    I LOVE the new BSG, and though the scene people are refering to didnt go 100% to POTA, it was definately a tip of the hat. And I dont think it's the finale-because after the scene in question it says theres still more to come.

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Tim apefan <apefan23@yahoo. com> wrote:

    All the blogs keep comparing the season finale of Battlestar Galactica to POTA. I don't watch the show but here is the last scene on You Tube. Don't watch if you watch the show and haven't seen it.....!

    SPOILER ALERT

    http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=7c6Leg7MGQE

    Tim




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    Apparantly this was a sort of ending to do with the strike last year. A sort of, if it doesn't get sorted, that'[s it/.
     
    Robert Mansell
     

     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: ~~Joanne~~
    Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:38 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Battlestar

    they called it the "spring finale".  I read somewhere that there will be another 6 or 8 episodes and then that will be it.  I think the strike screwed up their plan.

     

    Joanne

     


    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@ gmail.com> wrote:
    From: Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@ gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: [pota] Battlestar
    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 11:32 AM

    I LOVE the new BSG, and though the scene people are refering to didnt go 100% to POTA, it was definately a tip of the hat. And I dont think it's the finale-because after the scene in question it says theres still more to come.

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Tim apefan <apefan23@yahoo. com> wrote:

    All the blogs keep comparing the season finale of Battlestar Galactica to POTA. I don't watch the show but here is the last scene on You Tube. Don't watch if you watch the show and haven't seen it.....!

    SPOILER ALERT

    http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=7c6Leg7MGQE

    Tim




    --
    Bill Hollweg
    Have Sword...
    Will Slay...
    Barbarian in need of Ale...
    Check out my fantasy Audio Drama-
    Bill Hollweg
    Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
    www.brokensea. net
    The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
    http://www.brokense a.com and
    http://www.westlak e films.co. uk
    Planet of the Apes at
    http://www.brokense a.com and
    Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
    http://www.brokense a.com and
    CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
    http://brokensea. com/conan/



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    Group: pota Message: 47145 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear - DIvix
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    DIVIX, what's that ?
     
    Robert Mansell

     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:53 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear

    Because they're stupid.  To go out of their way and produce something that such a small percent of people will but is not a good business choice.  Then again, seeing the choices they've made in the past flies do go to shit.
    Remember, they also were behind Divix years ago.
    - Scott B.

    Haristas@aol. com wrote:

    More than likely FOX is also preparing a standard DVD release of POTA along side the Blu one, and it will have the galleries, featurettes, and whatever else. 
    I'm not so sure about that.  Fox doesn't seem to be doing that with anything else they've released on Blu-ray so far.  Of course, the standard DVD releases of recent Blu-ray editions of PATTON, THE SAND PEBBLES, etc., were all previously released.  However, the forthcoming BATMAN - THE MOVIE is an upgrade of the standard DVD released years ago, and has new extras beside the upgraded transfer.  Fox having put out the "Head" and Legacy editions of APES only three years ago, and they're still on store shelves, I doubt there will be anything but a Blu-ray edition -- which I think is now scheduled for November.  Also, Fox has to promote the format.  How can they do that if the release standard versions too?

    -- Rory





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    Group: pota Message: 47146 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
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    In that case I'll also download the color & B/W pix of Ape City I bought last summer when I download this one!

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 5:26 pm
    Subject: Re: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city

    would love to see those....am collecting pics of Ape City from all angles...!

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com> wrote:

    > From: stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com>
    > Subject: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
    > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 3:29 PM
    > I finally got my hands on the contact sheet from the 1968
    > POTA of the deleted/shortened scenes of Taylor running (and
    > swimming ) through Ape City. I thought I downloaded an image
    > I had of the original a while ago in the files but can't
    > find it...when I get this in the mail I'll re-scan it
    > and add it again.
    >
    > Bruce.?

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    Group: pota Message: 47147 From: Bobby Smyth Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: Battlestar
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    Yeah the only thing missing was The Statue of Liberty lying on the
    beach lol
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    Group: pota Message: 47149 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
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    Would you be interested in making 2 outfits? I've always luv'd that figure and know you could do a great job with sewing it.

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:42 PM

    Yes, why not?  She is my favorite batgirl.  I just need photo references.

    On 6/25/08, Chris Hight <snickertown@ yahoo.com> wrote:

    Are you saying that you might sew a Batgirl costume from the 1966 tv show?

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 8:11 PM

    I purchased the shorthaired Batgirl and ordered the George Reeve sculpt for free.  Don't ask me what I am going to do with all of these heads...

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Nice to hear I am dealing with such a perfectionist, I look forward to the results. I would love to know your third and free choice, a nice batch to choose from, but who would want a Morgan Freeman doll?
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:16:15 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    OK.  I just ordered myself two of the Burke heads, one painted, one unpainted, and another head so that I could get a fourth one free. 
     
    The Burke/Virdon outfits are coming along, but I ran out of fabric for Virdon's shirt.  The original material I found at a secondhand store was actually just the sleeve part of a girls shirt, so there was very little fabric.  I am anxiously waiting for the fabric store to open their doors (they are opening their new fabric store July 11) so that I could purchase the correct material and dye it the appropriate color.
     
    Jessica.

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    I was just stalling...wonderin g which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

     
    Were people not buying the first sculpt?

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
    superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.




     


     


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    Group: pota Message: 47150 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/26/2008
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    That is great news! I can't wait to see what you turn out. Your Nova idea sounds really interesting too.

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:55 PM

    SCORE!!!!  I couldn't resist and stopped by another fabric store on my way home.  I purchased the crinkle cotton, some fabric dye (need to experiment with this one)...AND some perfectly colored fabric for Burke's vest.  I know that Angelofmusic2112 sent me dyed fabric, but the colors were hard to match perfectly back and front and I didn't want any perfectionists complaining. ..you know how that goes...you always want to send out the best you possibly can.
     
    I also purchased a Mego 12" wonder woman that I plan to reroot hair, and then paint her face/body and hopefully turn her into Nova.  That's a future project.  She is missing one foot so I have to figure out how to replace that.
     
    Jessica.

     
    On 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    Yes, why not?  She is my favorite batgirl.  I just need photo references.


    On 6/25/08, Chris Hight <snickertown@ yahoo.com> wrote:

    Are you saying that you might sew a Batgirl costume from the 1966 tv show?

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 8:11 PM

    I purchased the shorthaired Batgirl and ordered the George Reeve sculpt for free.  Don't ask me what I am going to do with all of these heads...

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Nice to hear I am dealing with such a perfectionist, I look forward to the results. I would love to know your third and free choice, a nice batch to choose from, but who would want a Morgan Freeman doll?
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:16:15 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    OK.  I just ordered myself two of the Burke heads, one painted, one unpainted, and another head so that I could get a fourth one free. 
     
    The Burke/Virdon outfits are coming along, but I ran out of fabric for Virdon's shirt.  The original material I found at a secondhand store was actually just the sleeve part of a girls shirt, so there was very little fabric.  I am anxiously waiting for the fabric store to open their doors (they are opening their new fabric store July 11) so that I could purchase the correct material and dye it the appropriate color.
     
    Jessica.

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    I was just stalling...wonderin g which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

     
    Were people not buying the first sculpt?

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
    superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.




     


     


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    Subject: Beneath the Planet of the Apes, 6/26/2008, 8:30 am
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    Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
     
    Title:   Beneath the Planet of the Apes
     
    Date:   Thursday June 26, 2008
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    Group: pota Message: 47152 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
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    EXCELLENT!! Thanks Bruce!


    --- On Thu, 6/26/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

    > From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
    > Subject: Re: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 4:28 AM
    > In that case I'll also download the color & B/W?pix
    > of Ape City I bought last summer when I download this one!
    >
    > Bruce
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 5:26 pm
    > Subject: Re: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in
    > Ape city
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > would love to see those....am collecting pics of Ape City
    > from all angles...!
    >
    > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, stenosaurus@...
    > <stenosaurus@...> wrote:
    >
    > > From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
    > > Subject: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in
    > Ape city
    > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 3:29 PM
    > > I finally got my hands on the contact sheet from the
    > 1968
    > > POTA of the deleted/shortened scenes of Taylor running
    > (and
    > > swimming ) through Ape City. I thought I downloaded an
    > image
    > > I had of the original a while ago in the files but
    > can't
    > > find it...when I get this in the mail I'll re-scan
    > it
    > > and add it again.
    > >
    > > Bruce.?
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    Group: pota Message: 47153 From: James Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Hulu.com
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    Fans of the 2001 remake may want to check out the Hulu.com website. The full movie and selected clips are available for viewing.

    http://www.hulu.com/planet-of-the-apes

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    Group: pota Message: 47154 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: Hulu.com
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    I am a big fan.  Will definately check out that site in detail.  Thanks so much!

     

    Joanne

     


    --- On Thu, 6/26/08, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
    From: James <JamesA1102@...>
    Subject: [pota] Hulu.com
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:03 AM

    Fans of the 2001 remake may want to check out the Hulu.com website. The full movie and selected clips are available for viewing.

    http://www.hulu. com/planet- of-the-apes


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    Group: pota Message: 47155 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: Hulu.com
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    In the US only.....
     
    Robert Mansell
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: James
    Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:03 PM
    Subject: [pota] Hulu.com

    Fans of the 2001 remake may want to check out the Hulu.com website. The full movie and selected clips are available for viewing.

    http://www.hulu. com/planet- of-the-apes



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    Group: pota Message: 47156 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 6/26/2008
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    so joanne  which is your favorite the original or the remake?how many times seen each?  goapebilly




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    Group: pota Message: 47157 From: scott bosco Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear - DIvix
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    Robert,
    In the very early days of DVD DISNEY and FOX wanted the new format to go a different way - although a DVD disc, but it was a rental/pay for disc.  In other words when you went to the store you would pay a different amount depending on if you were purchasing the disc or renting.  The disc would be "unlocked' depending on what you paid allowing you to play it whenever you wanted for only for a given time in which the player wouldn't accept it.  The player itself needed to be connected to a phone line for Internet connection which would connect the player to a data base keeping track of what was put into it.  Also, if you "purchased' a given disc you could play it on any other machine since it would locked into your players ID number.  Updates and other features were hoped for for each player via the net as well.
    FOX and Disney were so paranoid over their film's made available in DVD's higher quality they voted for the Divix format to aid in stopping, or stalling piracy.  In the end of course standard DVD won out.
    - Scott B

    Robert Mansell <robert.mansell@...> wrote:
    DIVIX, what's that ?
     
    Robert Mansell

     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:53 PM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear

    Because they're stupid.  To go out of their way and produce something that such a small percent of people will but is not a good business choice.  Then again, seeing the choices they've made in the past flies do go to shit.
    Remember, they also were behind Divix years ago.
    - Scott B.

    Haristas@aol. com wrote:

    More than likely FOX is also preparing a standard DVD release of POTA along side the Blu one, and it will have the galleries, featurettes, and whatever else. 
    I'm not so sure about that.  Fox doesn't seem to be doing that with anything else they've released on Blu-ray so far.  Of course, the standard DVD releases of recent Blu-ray editions of PATTON, THE SAND PEBBLES, etc., were all previously released.  However, the forthcoming BATMAN - THE MOVIE is an upgrade of the standard DVD released years ago, and has new extras beside the upgraded transfer.  Fox having put out the "Head" and Legacy editions of APES only three years ago, and they're still on store shelves, I doubt there will be anything but a Blu-ray edition -- which I think is now scheduled for November.  Also, Fox has to promote the format.  How can they do that if the release standard versions too?

    -- Rory





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    Group: pota Message: 47158 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: Hulu.com
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    well, Billy, i prefer the second one, the remark.  I happen to love MW (what woman doesn't).  I have watched the original twice this week alone and the remake once this week.  I don't have any of the DVD's so I try to catch them when they are on TV.  I was supposed to borrow the DVD's from a friend, but that never happened. 

     

    Joanne

     


    --- On Thu, 6/26/08, goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...> wrote:
    From: goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] Hulu.com
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 11:35 AM

    so joanne  which is your favorite the original or the remake?how many times seen each?  goapebilly




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    Group: pota Message: 47159 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
    .html
    My pleasure. I can't wait to see this one close-up, myself.

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 9:33 am
    Subject: Re: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city

    EXCELLENT!! Thanks Bruce!

    --- On Thu, 6/26/08, stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com> wrote:

    > From: stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com>
    > Subject: Re: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
    > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    > Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 4:28 AM
    > In that case I'll also download the color & B/W?pix
    > of Ape City I bought last summer when I download this one!
    >
    > Bruce
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@yahoo. com>
    > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    > Sent: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 5:26 pm
    > Subject: Re: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in
    > Ape city
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > would love to see those....am collecting pics of Ape City
    > from all angles...!
    >
    > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, stenosaurus@ aol.com
    > <stenosaurus@ aol.com> wrote:
    >
    > > From: stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com>
    > > Subject: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in
    > Ape city
    > > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 3:29 PM
    > > I finally got my hands on the contact sheet from the
    > 1968
    > > POTA of the deleted/shortened scenes of Taylor running
    > (and
    > > swimming ) through Ape City. I thought I downloaded an
    > image
    > > I had of the original a while ago in the files but
    > can't
    > > find it...when I get this in the mail I'll re-scan
    > it
    > > and add it again.
    > >
    > > Bruce.?

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    Group: pota Message: 47160 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
    .html
    Wow.  I checked out some photographs I found on the internet for Julie Newmar.  That black cat suit would be so easy to make.  It's just a stretch suit that needs a belt and necklace.  Couldn't find photos of her shoes...the only difficult thing would be to find gloves for her outfit. I'm sure those can be found pre-made.
     
    Jessica.

    On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Chris Hight <snickertown@...> wrote:

    Would you be interested in making 2 outfits? I've always luv'd that figure and know you could do a great job with sewing it.

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:42 PM


    Yes, why not?  She is my favorite batgirl.  I just need photo references.

    On 6/25/08, Chris Hight <snickertown@ yahoo.com> wrote:

    Are you saying that you might sew a Batgirl costume from the 1966 tv show?

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 8:11 PM

    I purchased the shorthaired Batgirl and ordered the George Reeve sculpt for free.  Don't ask me what I am going to do with all of these heads...

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Nice to hear I am dealing with such a perfectionist, I look forward to the results. I would love to know your third and free choice, a nice batch to choose from, but who would want a Morgan Freeman doll?
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:16:15 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    OK.  I just ordered myself two of the Burke heads, one painted, one unpainted, and another head so that I could get a fourth one free. 
     
    The Burke/Virdon outfits are coming along, but I ran out of fabric for Virdon's shirt.  The original material I found at a secondhand store was actually just the sleeve part of a girls shirt, so there was very little fabric.  I am anxiously waiting for the fabric store to open their doors (they are opening their new fabric store July 11) so that I could purchase the correct material and dye it the appropriate color.
     
    Jessica.

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    I was just stalling...wonderin g which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

     
    Were people not buying the first sculpt?

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
    superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.




     


     


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    Group: pota Message: 47161 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: New Burke head sculpt available
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    With the gloves you could even paint her hands black.

    --- On Thu, 6/26/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 4:45 PM

    Wow.  I checked out some photographs I found on the internet for Julie Newmar.  That black cat suit would be so easy to make.  It's just a stretch suit that needs a belt and necklace.  Couldn't find photos of her shoes...the only difficult thing would be to find gloves for her outfit. I'm sure those can be found pre-made.
     
    Jessica.

    On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Chris Hight <snickertown@ yahoo.com> wrote:

    Would you be interested in making 2 outfits? I've always luv'd that figure and know you could do a great job with sewing it.

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:42 PM


    Yes, why not?  She is my favorite batgirl.  I just need photo references.

    On 6/25/08, Chris Hight <snickertown@ yahoo.com> wrote:

    Are you saying that you might sew a Batgirl costume from the 1966 tv show?

    --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available
    To: pota@yahoogroups. com
    Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 8:11 PM

    I purchased the shorthaired Batgirl and ordered the George Reeve sculpt for free.  Don't ask me what I am going to do with all of these heads...

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Nice to hear I am dealing with such a perfectionist, I look forward to the results. I would love to know your third and free choice, a nice batch to choose from, but who would want a Morgan Freeman doll?
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:16:15 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

    OK.  I just ordered myself two of the Burke heads, one painted, one unpainted, and another head so that I could get a fourth one free. 
     
    The Burke/Virdon outfits are coming along, but I ran out of fabric for Virdon's shirt.  The original material I found at a secondhand store was actually just the sleeve part of a girls shirt, so there was very little fabric.  I am anxiously waiting for the fabric store to open their doors (they are opening their new fabric store July 11) so that I could purchase the correct material and dye it the appropriate color.
     
    Jessica.

     
    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    I was just stalling...wonderin g which heads I was going to purchase so I could get the fourth head free!  And I'm still undecided!!  But I kind of liked the first one...and this one I am sure will grow on me as well.


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM, rob reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Not sure if they were, very sad really. I have sent images to most of the groups to make them aware it is available.
     
    Rob


    Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:37:51 -0700

    Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

     
    Were people not buying the first sculpt?

    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:37 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
    Rob, the other sculpt kind of grew on me.  Do you know the reason why she changed it?


    On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Rob Reading <readingrob@hotmail. com> wrote:

    Hi all, Chan Ada has decided to scrap her previous head sculpt and replaced it with this
    superb one. Suitable for 12'' figures.




     


     


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    Group: pota Message: 47162 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: Hulu.com
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    well joanne only seen on tv? its not the same,maybe should get better friend who let you down with lending movies.as to mw cant answer but who can forget bikini clad linda harrison ,only way to improve that if it is with jennifer love:)
    when they come out with blue ray invest in set       goapebilly




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    Group: pota Message: 47163 From: Mark Taylor Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: POTA from Brazil (1976)
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    POTA from Brazil: Trapalhão no Planalto dos Macacos (1976)

    Info and download links on this page in the original Portuguese:
    http://thebullson.blogspot.com/2008/04/sinopse-os-amigos-conde-e-alex-so_15.html"

    Or get the info and links from the same page translated into English:
    http://tinyurl.com/6xofye

    Regards,
    Mark
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    Group: pota Message: 47164 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 6/26/2008
    Subject: Re: Hulu.com
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    yes, Billy, you may be correct on two counts...getting a better friend and also buying the blue ray when available.  thanks for your input.

     

    Joanne

     


    --- On Thu, 6/26/08, goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...> wrote:
    From: goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] Hulu.com
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 5:33 PM

    well joanne only seen on tv? its not the same,maybe should get better friend who let you down with lending movies.as to mw cant answer but who can forget bikini clad linda harrison ,only way to improve that if it is with jennifer love:)
    when they come out with blue ray invest in set       goapebilly




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    Group: pota Message: 47165 From: William Burge Date: 6/27/2008
    Subject: apes ad 68
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      here is an ad from the houston post 12-31-68

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      Group: pota Message: 47166 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Beneath Mutants
      .html
      Isn't odd that the Beneath Mutants register no surprise that Brent and
      Taylor can talk--even though Nova can't and they must have some
      knowldge of the outside world? They assume Brent is a spy, but don't
      say he's spying for the Apes--in fact, they're shocked to learn he
      broke out of Ape City.So, who would he be spying for.Is there another,
      speaking Human civilisation we don't see, with whom the Mutants don't
      get on? John, Scrolls.
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      Group: pota Message: 47167 From: Kevin Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Re: Beneath Mutants
      .html
      The Marvel comics of the '70's had another group of mutants under the
      Brains' Trust.

      KJ

      shanter2002 wrote:
      > Isn't odd that the Beneath Mutants register no surprise that Brent and
      > Taylor can talk--even though Nova can't and they must have some
      > knowldge of the outside world? They assume Brent is a spy, but don't
      > say he's spying for the Apes--in fact, they're shocked to learn he
      > broke out of Ape City.So, who would he be spying for.Is there another,
      > speaking Human civilisation we don't see, with whom the Mutants don't
      > get on? John, Scrolls.
      >
      >
      > ------------------------------------
      >
      > Yahoo! Groups Links
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 47168 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: New file uploaded to pota
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      Hello,

      This email message is a notification to let you know that
      a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
      group.

      File : /ape%20ad%2068.bmp
      Uploaded by : jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
      Description : Thanks William!

      You can access this file at the URL:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ape%20ad%2068.bmp

      To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
      http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmliles

      Regards,

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      Group: pota Message: 47169 From: James Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Cornelius' Journal
      .html

      Good morning! This week's entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now available. 

      To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm

      Have a great weekend everybody!

      Visit all the Group's special features including:

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      Group: pota Message: 47170 From: Dave B Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Re: Beneath Mutants
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      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
      >
      > Isn't odd that the Beneath Mutants register no surprise that Brent and
      > Taylor can talk.

      We never see the Mutants first encounter with Taylor so we don't know
      how they reacted to him being able to talk. Perhaps they were
      surprised by the fact but by the time Brent came along had grown used
      to it.

      If they were distantly observing Taylor before they made actual
      contact they would have known he could talk from his one sided
      conversations with Nova.

      I get the impression that emotions are subdued among the mutant
      society (or perhaps just don't transfer very well through the masks?)
      registering surprise is a primitive accomplishment but they employ it
      when they must.

      Dave
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      Group: pota Message: 47171 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear - DIvix
      .html
      .html
      Hmmm
       
      That was never going to work.......
       
      Robert Mansell
       

      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:11 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear - DIvix

      Robert,
      In the very early days of DVD DISNEY and FOX wanted the new format to go a different way - although a DVD disc, but it was a rental/pay for disc.  In other words when you went to the store you would pay a different amount depending on if you were purchasing the disc or renting.  The disc would be "unlocked' depending on what you paid allowing you to play it whenever you wanted for only for a given time in which the player wouldn't accept it.  The player itself needed to be connected to a phone line for Internet connection which would connect the player to a data base keeping track of what was put into it.  Also, if you "purchased' a given disc you could play it on any other machine since it would locked into your players ID number.  Updates and other features were hoped for for each player via the net as well.
      FOX and Disney were so paranoid over their film's made available in DVD's higher quality they voted for the Divix format to aid in stopping, or stalling piracy.  In the end of course standard DVD won out.
      - Scott B

      Robert Mansell <robert.mansell@ tiscali.co. uk> wrote:
      DIVIX, what's that ?
       
      Robert Mansell

       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:53 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA Blu-Ray Fear

      Because they're stupid.  To go out of their way and produce something that such a small percent of people will but is not a good business choice.  Then again, seeing the choices they've made in the past flies do go to shit.
      Remember, they also were behind Divix years ago.
      - Scott B.

      Haristas@aol. com wrote:

      More than likely FOX is also preparing a standard DVD release of POTA along side the Blu one, and it will have the galleries, featurettes, and whatever else. 
      I'm not so sure about that.  Fox doesn't seem to be doing that with anything else they've released on Blu-ray so far.  Of course, the standard DVD releases of recent Blu-ray editions of PATTON, THE SAND PEBBLES, etc., were all previously released.  However, the forthcoming BATMAN - THE MOVIE is an upgrade of the standard DVD released years ago, and has new extras beside the upgraded transfer.  Fox having put out the "Head" and Legacy editions of APES only three years ago, and they're still on store shelves, I doubt there will be anything but a Blu-ray edition -- which I think is now scheduled for November.  Also, Fox has to promote the format.  How can they do that if the release standard versions too?

      -- Rory





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      Group: pota Message: 47172 From: James Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Re: Beneath Mutants
      .html

      Maybe like Zaius, the assumed that Taylor came from a tribe of humans living somewhere beyond the Forbidden Zone.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
      >
      > Isn't odd that the Beneath Mutants register no surprise that Brent and
      > Taylor can talk--even though Nova can't and they must have some
      > knowldge of the outside world? They assume Brent is a spy, but don't
      > say he's spying for the Apes--in fact, they're shocked to learn he
      > broke out of Ape City.So, who would he be spying for.Is there another,
      > speaking Human civilisation we don't see, with whom the Mutants don't
      > get on? John, Scrolls.
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 47173 From: James Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Re: Beneath Mutants
      .html

      Good point. The mutants go to a lot of trouble to capture Taylor but leave Nova behind. So they must have realized that he was different than other surface humans.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
      >
      > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" john@ wrote:
      > >
      > > Isn't odd that the Beneath Mutants register no surprise that Brent and
      > > Taylor can talk.
      >
      > We never see the Mutants first encounter with Taylor so we don't know
      > how they reacted to him being able to talk. Perhaps they were
      > surprised by the fact but by the time Brent came along had grown used
      > to it.
      >
      > If they were distantly observing Taylor before they made actual
      > contact they would have known he could talk from his one sided
      > conversations with Nova.
      >
      > I get the impression that emotions are subdued among the mutant
      > society (or perhaps just don't transfer very well through the masks?)
      > registering surprise is a primitive accomplishment but they employ it
      > when they must.
      >
      > Dave
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 47174 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Re: POTA from Brazil (1976)
      .html
      Yes, I see this movie, but you guy's please don´t take this film serius.
      The " Trapalhões" are funny people from the age of 5 to 10 maximum.

       
      2008/6/26, Mark Taylor <mark_nems@...>:

      POTA from Brazil: Trapalhão no Planalto dos Macacos (1976)

      Info and download links on this page in the original Portuguese:
      http://thebullson.blogspot.com/2008/04/sinopse-os-amigos-conde-e-alex-so_15.html"

      Or get the info and links from the same page translated into English:
      http://tinyurl.com/6xofye

      Regards,
      Mark


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      Group: pota Message: 47175 From: Dave B Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Wanted
      .html
      From SFX...


      "Wanted scriptwriters Michael Brandt and Derek Haas have written a
      script for Sony called Creatures Great and Small, a Jurassic
      Park-style fantasy set in a future world where animals rule and humans
      are in a minority. Wonder if it ends with someone discovering a
      half-buried Statue of Liberty?"
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      Group: pota Message: 47176 From: scott bosco Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Re: Wanted
      .html
      Mmmm, sounds like the sequel to ANIMAL FARM.
       
      ...shouldn't that titles be sung? (Beneath)
      - Scott B.

      Dave B <smugster2000@...> wrote:
      From SFX...

      "Wanted scriptwriters Michael Brandt and Derek Haas have written a
      script for Sony called Creatures Great and Small, a Jurassic
      Park-style fantasy set in a future world where animals rule and humans
      are in a minority. Wonder if it ends with someone discovering a
      half-buried Statue of Liberty?"


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      Group: pota Message: 47177 From: 0 Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
      .html

      In that case, you may enjoy this.  I pasted it together from the 25th anniversary DVD....

      :(

       


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
      >
      > would love to see those....am collecting pics of Ape City from all angles...!
      >
      >
      > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, stenosaurus@... stenosaurus@... wrote:
      >
      > > From: stenosaurus@... stenosaurus@...
      > > Subject: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
      > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 3:29 PM
      > > I finally got my hands on the contact sheet from the 1968
      > > POTA of the deleted/shortened scenes of Taylor running (and
      > > swimming ) through Ape City. I thought I downloaded an image
      > > I had of the original a while ago in the files but can't
      > > find it...when I get this in the mail I'll re-scan it
      > > and add it again.
      > >
      > > Bruce.?
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 47178 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
      .html
      With the APES films coming to Blu-ray DVD at the end of 2008, I was wondering how many here are now watching, or plan to buy, a 16X9 TV (LCD or Plasma) display?

      I had a 38" 16X9 CRT since late 2002 (since given to my brother), but now I look mostly at a 32" LCD 16X9 flat screen, but my sister has a couple 50" Plasmas that are 1080p.  I'm just not ready yet to invest in the kind of display device I'd like, but I'll probably get a Blu-ray player by the end of the year and take it over to my sister's just to watch PLANET in 1080p.

      The one thing I want to say to anyone here still watching the old regular TVs is once you go 16X9 pregressive, there's no going back.  Looking at old square TVs actually depresses me.

      -- Rory
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      Group: pota Message: 47179 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
      Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
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        If I hadn't said it already...Happy Belated Birthday, Rory!  I've been on the go quite a bit this past week.  Hope that it was a good one!
         
        Zach   
         
        -------Original Message-------
         
        Date: 6/22/2008 12:58:51 PM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: Birthday Reminder
         

        Thanks Jessica.  AMC showed PLANET at 5:30 AM today.  Coincidence, eh?

        -- Rory


        -----Original Message-----
        From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
        To: pota@yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 2:50 am
        Subject: Re: [pota] Birthday Reminder

        Happy birthday, Rory!  Hope it is a good one.
         
        Jessica.

         
        On 22 Jun 2008 03:49:58 -0000, pota@yahoogroups. com <pota@yahoogroups. com> wrote:
        Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
         
        Title:   Rory's Birthday
         
        Date:   Sunday June 22, 2008
        Time:   All Day
        Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
         
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        Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email.

         
         
         
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        Group: pota Message: 47180 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
        Subject: Re: costume
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          Jeff, that is a great Zira costume.
           
          Zach   
           
          -------Original Message-------
           
          From: Jeff
          Date: 6/22/2008 10:03:38 PM
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [pota] costume
           

          My Zira costume is 90% finished.  For some reason, when Lacey tried the costume on, it didn't fit correctly on her shoulders.  I have to work on it.  It's made with pant cloth (denim), but looks like polished cotton in these pics.  I'm most proud of the shoes.  I should have the glyph on it by next week and her prosthetics done.  When it's complete I'll put up some pics.
           
          Jeff B

           
           
           
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          Group: pota Message: 47181 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
          Subject: Re: does anybody know...
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            Wow, Tim...I had never seen that before...but maybe some of our other Apesters may know about it.
             
            Zach   
             
            -------Original Message-------
             
            Date: 6/22/2008 10:46:16 PM
            To: POTA
            Subject: [pota] does anybody know...
             

            I won this recently on ebay and have always thought it was very cool....!
            I know it is not an official product.....
            does anyone know any specifics about this ?
            Thanks...
            Tim

             
             
             
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            Group: pota Message: 47182 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
            Subject: Re: What might have been
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              As far as I'm concerned, nobody could play Zira but Kim Hunter.
               
              Zach   
               
              -------Original Message-------
               
              Date: 6/24/2008 3:17:42 PM
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [pota] Re: What might have been
               


              Wow.Apes STILL surprises me! She would have been the sort of star
              Arthur Jacobs would have tried to recruit.Just imagine--Ingrid
              Bergman as a chimp!Not sure if she'd have had that playful ,
              misbehaving quality that Kim gave Zira, but who knows? What next? Was
              John Wayne up to play Cornelius?!! John, Scrolls.
              I would like to have seen how Nancy Kwan would have been as Zira.

              -- Rory



               
               
               
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              Group: pota Message: 47183 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
              Subject: Re: costume home made film
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                Yes, Brian, that would be superb to see your footage.
                 
                Zach   
                 
                -------Original Message-------
                 
                Date: 6/24/2008 2:31:32 AM
                To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [pota] costume home made film
                 

                Hey Brian sounds very cool
                Would love to see you transfer your footage before it deteroriates any more
                sounds like you had lots of fun
                 
                 
                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Brian P
                Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:04 PM
                Subject: RE: [pota] costume

                I made a Planet of the Apes movie using Super-8 film back around 1976 with some college and high school friends.  We never finished it; but I got out the old projector and showed the reel of film I have left (my ex never gave me the other reels) and he thought it was pretty good (other than the fact it was silent). 
                 
                The costuming was the hardest part of the film.  I created the plaster molds for the latex masks (chimp, orangutan and gorilla) using clay.  I had full face masks for the background apes and partial face masks for the main characters.  I didn't figure out how to do latex foam; so they were all latex rubber.  The full face masks just had long black, brown or orange fake fur.  The other apes with the appliances wore wigs I had bought from second hand stores.  The hands had gloves made from nylons, with no fingers, and sewn on wig hair. 
                 
                I agree that the hardest costumes to make were the gorillas uniforms because each of the horizontal ribs had to be sewn with a string for the raised line and then folded over and sewn along the edge onto the vest.  This was no easy task using vinyl (I used brown fake leather).  The snaps on the ammo belts were made from plaster molds and the boxes on the belt were made of black painted wood.  The boots were really just vinyl cuffs worn over brown shoes.  I didn't bother with the toed boots or shoes.  So I was impressed by the shoes in the photographs of the costume in this thread.  The gloves were made by hand too and had the same ribbing as the vests.  The pants and sleeves were made from brown cloth. 
                 
                The chimp and orangutan suits were not as difficult as the gorilla to make.  Though I never knew about the padding in the original costumes.  The "leather" collars on the chimp and orangutan suits were somewhat difficult too.  Most didn't have more than the darts extending around the chimp's neck because the relief symbols were a pain to sew.  Especially Dr Zais's collar. 
                 
                The rifles were made from 2x4 pine studs and cut to the ape rifle shape using a jigsaw.  The barrels were made from small diameter pipe. 
                 
                Some day I'll have to have what film I have left transferred to digital video.  It is now old and has brown spots; so I probably would need to be cleaned professionally first and some of the splices would need to be redone as some are broken. 
                 
                It was a lot of fun making the movie back then though my family all thought I was way too nerdy.  My brother still teases me about making "monkey movies".  lol.
                 
                Brian
                 
                 
                 


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                Group: pota Message: 47184 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
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                  WOW!  I certainly would love to see that!
                   
                  Zach   
                   
                  -------Original Message-------
                   
                  Date: 6/25/2008 3:24:41 PM
                  To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
                   

                  I finally got my hands on the contact sheet from the 1968 POTA of the deleted/shortened scenes of Taylor running (and swimming ) through Ape City. I thought I downloaded an image I had of the original a while ago in the files but can't find it...when I get this in the mail I'll re-scan it and add it again.

                  Bruce. 

                   
                   
                   
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                  Group: pota Message: 47185 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
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                    Minnie is a darling little simian!  And she's great help to Mr. Cook! 
                     
                    Zach   
                     
                    -------Original Message-------
                     
                    Date: 6/25/2008 5:21:11 PM
                    To: POTA;  POTA DG
                    Subject: [pota] And so it begins....
                     

                    La Habra, California: Minnie is a capuchin monkey, a species especially well suited to be monkey helpers. They are natural tool users and are endlessly curious. Today there are only 104 monkey helpers nationwide—at a training cost of $30,000 each—available for the 11 million disabled Americans who need assistance with daily living. Minnie is the first monkey helper to be placed in California

                    Craig Cook broke his neck in a car accident 11 years ago and was left a paraplegic. Getting through the day was difficult until three years ago, when the Boston-based organization Monkey Helpers for the Disabled introduced him to Minnie, a companion and helper monkey who responds to voice commands, bringing Cook whatever he needs.

                    Minnie helps Cook finish lunch. Besides helping with food preparation, Minnie has a 30-word command vocabulary, and can turn on the computer and load CDs. Her favorite command: give me a high-five. “Isn’t it cool?” says Cook proudly. As a way of saying thanks, Cook has become a spokesman for the Helping Hands foundation.

                     
                     
                     
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                    Group: pota Message: 47186 From: zasco1957 Date: 6/27/2008
                    Subject: Re: apes ad 68
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                      Another great ad, William...thanks!
                       
                      Zach   
                       
                      -------Original Message-------
                       
                      Date: 6/27/2008 2:37:03 AM
                      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: [pota] apes ad 68
                       

                      here is an ad from the houston post 12-31-68

                       
                       
                       
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                      Group: pota Message: 47187 From: Mark Date: 6/27/2008
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                      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

                      Amy Winehouse as Zira. Pete Doherty as Cornelius. Liam Gallagher as Dr. Zaius.
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                      Group: pota Message: 47188 From: Jeff Date: 6/27/2008
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                        Thanks...more pics in the next few weeks
                         
                        Jeff B
                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: zasco1957
                        Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 4:02 PM
                        Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [pota] costume

                        Jeff, that is a great Zira costume.
                         
                        Zach   
                         
                        -------Original Message----- --
                         
                        From: Jeff
                        Date: 6/22/2008 10:03:38 PM
                        Subject: [pota] costume
                         

                        My Zira costume is 90% finished.  For some reason, when Lacey tried the costume on, it didn't fit correctly on her shoulders.  I have to work on it.  It's made with pant cloth (denim), but looks like polished cotton in these pics.  I'm most proud of the shoes.  I should have the glyph on it by next week and her prosthetics done.  When it's complete I'll put up some pics.
                         
                        Jeff B

                         
                         
                         
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                        Group: pota Message: 47189 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/27/2008
                        Subject: Re: costume home made film
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                        I would love to see your footage also.

                        Kevin


                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...>
                        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 7:12 pm
                        Subject: Re: [pota] costume home made film

                        Yes, Brian, that would be superb to see your footage.
                         
                        Zach   
                         
                        -------Original Message----- --
                         
                        Date: 6/24/2008 2:31:32 AM
                        Subject: Re: [pota] costume home made film
                         
                        Hey Brian sounds very cool
                        Would love to see you transfer your footage before it deteroriates any more
                        sounds like you had lots of fun
                         
                         
                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: Brian P
                        Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:04 PM
                        Subject: RE: [pota] costume

                        I made a Planet of the Apes movie using Super-8 film back around 1976 with some college and high school f riends.  We never finished it; but I got out the old projector and showed the reel of film I have left (my ex never gave me the other reels) and he thought it was pretty good (other than the fact it was silent). 
                         
                        The costuming was the hardest part of the film.  I created the plaster molds for the latex masks (chimp, orangutan and gorilla) using clay.  I had full face masks for the background apes and partial face masks for the main characters.  I didn't figure out how to do latex foam; so they were all latex rubber.  The full face masks just had long black, brown or orange fake fur.  The other apes with the appliances wore wigs I had bought from second hand stores.  The hands had gloves made from nylons, with no fingers, and sewn on wig hair. 
                         
                        I agree that the hardest costumes to make were the gorillas uniforms because each of the horizontal ribs had to be sewn with a string for the raised line and then folded over and sewn along the edge onto the vest.  This was no easy task using vinyl (I used brown fake leather).  The snaps on the ammo belts were made from plaster molds and the boxes on the belt were made of black painted wood.  The boots were really just vinyl cuffs worn over brown shoes.  I didn't bother with the toed boots or shoes.  So I was impressed by the shoes in the photographs of the costume in this thread.  The gloves were made by hand too and had the same ribbing as the vests.  The pants and sleeves were made from brown cloth. 
                         
                        The chimp and orangutan suits were not as difficult as the gorilla to make.  Though I never knew about the padding in the original costumes.  The "leather" collars on the chimp and orangutan suits were somewhat difficult too.  Most didn't have more than the darts extending around the chimp's neck because the relief symbols were a pain to sew.  Especially Dr Zais's collar. 
                         
                        The rifles were made from 2x4 pine studs and cut to the ape rifle shape using a jigsaw.  The barrels were made from small diameter pipe. 
                         
                        Some day I'll have to have what film I have left transferred to digital video.  It is now old and has brown spots; so I probably would need to be cleaned professionally first and some of the splices would need to be redone as some are broken. 
                         
                        It was a lot of fun making the movie back then though my family all thought I was way too nerdy.  My brother still teases me about making "monkey movies".  lol.
                         
                        Brian
                         
                         
                         


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                        Group: pota Message: 47190 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/27/2008
                        Subject: Re: What might have been
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                        I don't think that Amy Winehouse would be a good choice as Zira,  I would like to see Sophie Marceau play Doctor Zira,


                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Mark <rkid67@...>
                        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 8:22 pm
                        Subject: [pota] Re: What might have been

                        --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@. ..> wrote:

                        Amy Winehouse as Zira. Pete Doherty as Cornelius. Liam Gallagher as Dr. Zaius.

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                        Group: pota Message: 47191 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/27/2008
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                          Jeff, please remember to post more photos of the shoes.  You did such a bang up job on them!!!
                           
                          Jessica.

                           
                          On 6/27/08, Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote:

                          Thanks...more pics in the next few weeks
                           
                          Jeff B
                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: zasco1957
                          Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 4:02 PM
                          Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [pota] costume

                           

                          Jeff, that is a great Zira costume.
                           
                          Zach   
                           
                          -------Original Message-------
                           
                          From: Jeff
                          Date: 6/22/2008 10:03:38 PM
                          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: [pota] costume
                           

                          My Zira costume is 90% finished.  For some reason, when Lacey tried the costume on, it didn't fit correctly on her shoulders.  I have to work on it.  It's made with pant cloth (denim), but looks like polished cotton in these pics.  I'm most proud of the shoes.  I should have the glyph on it by next week and her prosthetics done.  When it's complete I'll put up some pics.
                           
                          Jeff B

                           
                           
                           
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                          Group: pota Message: 47192 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/27/2008
                          Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
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                          Ask and you shall receive...next week when Mr Mailman delivers it to me

                          Bruce.


                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...>
                          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 7:44 pm
                          Subject: Re: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city

                          WOW!  I certainly would love to see that!
                           
                          Zach   
                           
                          -------Original Message----- --
                           
                          Date: 6/25/2008 3:24:41 PM
                          Subject: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
                           
                          I finally got my hands on the contact sheet from the 1968 POTA of the deleted/shortened scenes of Taylor running (and swimming ) through Ape City. I thought I downloaded an image I had of the original a while ago in the files but can't find it...when I get this in the mail I'll re-scan it and add it again.

                          Bruce. 
                           
                           
                           
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                          Group: pota Message: 47193 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/28/2008
                          Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
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                          Cool! Thank you!!!!


                          --- On Fri, 6/27/08, 0 <vscimone@...> wrote:

                          > From: 0 <vscimone@...>
                          > Subject: [pota] Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
                          > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          > Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 4:26 PM
                          > In that case, you may enjoy this. I pasted it together from
                          > the 25th
                          > anniversary DVD....
                          >
                          > [:(]
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim
                          > \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
                          > wrote:
                          > >
                          > > would love to see those....am collecting pics of Ape
                          > City from all
                          > angles...!
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, stenosaurus@... stenosaurus@...
                          > wrote:
                          > >
                          > > > From: stenosaurus@... stenosaurus@...
                          > > > Subject: [pota] 1968 POTA deleted scenes of
                          > Taylor in Ape city
                          > > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 3:29 PM
                          > > > I finally got my hands on the contact sheet from
                          > the 1968
                          > > > POTA of the deleted/shortened scenes of Taylor
                          > running (and
                          > > > swimming ) through Ape City. I thought I
                          > downloaded an image
                          > > > I had of the original a while ago in the files
                          > but can't
                          > > > find it...when I get this in the mail I'll
                          > re-scan it
                          > > > and add it again.
                          > > >
                          > > > Bruce.?
                          > >
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                          Group: pota Message: 47194 From: scott bosco Date: 6/28/2008
                          Subject: Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
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                          52" Sony Bravia 1080p LCD here - just got it in Nov.  However got my first first 16.9 set in 2000 - at the time is was Philips 32" tube
                          Curently have an Oppo DVD player.  That mixed with a Anthem D2 Receiver which has a video processor that is pro quality (up converts to 1080P) makes standard DVDs near HD quality.  Friends visiting frorm FL wanted to put it to the test while visiting so we went to a local Best Buy to get a Blu player, then to Blockbuster to rent a couple of Blu discs.  We did our own test comparision and found it all very disapointing, then returned the player - the picture quality wasn't that much different from what my system is doing already.  The upsampling mixed with the processor on the D2 doesn't make a compelling reason to invest in Blu until the prices come way down - and they stop farting around with big difference amongst the players in terms of features - not to mention settle on a software version.    I think a lot of people are backing off due to the software bull.  No one wants to pay for a player that can't be upgraded in one way or another.  Too many people were burned by the whole HD/Blu war and money is tight.  Blu Ray just hasn't settled down yet to be trusted. I was a Beta person way back when, and a laserdisc fan.   Laserdisc had a wider consumer bass then, than Blu does now.  That's reason enough for me to wait a bit longer to see which way the wind is blowing.
                          -Scott B.

                          Haristas@... wrote:
                          With the APES films coming to Blu-ray DVD at the end of 2008, I was wondering how many here are now watching, or plan to buy, a 16X9 TV (LCD or Plasma) display?

                          I had a 38" 16X9 CRT since late 2002 (since given to my brother), but now I look mostly at a 32" LCD 16X9 flat screen, but my sister has a couple 50" Plasmas that are 1080p.  I'm just not ready yet to invest in the kind of display device I'd like, but I'll probably get a Blu-ray player by the end of the year and take it over to my sister's just to watch PLANET in 1080p.

                          The one thing I want to say to anyone here still watching the old regular TVs is once you go 16X9 pregressive, there's no going back.  Looking at old square TVs actually depresses me.

                          -- Rory

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                          Group: pota Message: 47195 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/28/2008
                          Subject: Re: 1968 POTA deleted scenes of Taylor in Ape city
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                          I was watching some of BENEATH last night, mostly to try and figure out where at Malibu Creek is the rocks that Brent and Nova climb onto to find the cave into the old subway station, but then I saw something else, something I've looked at for years and known what it was, but now I have a new theory about it.

                          You know the first shot of Ape City in BENEATH is actually unused footage from PLANET. Now the POV of that shot, which comes just after Nova points to the city with Brent beside her, is all wrong for the direction that Brent and Nova are taking towards the city. It's on the opposite side of the city, across the river or lake or whatever. However, unless this shot of Ape City was meant as an alternative establishing shot of the city, which of course is just after Taylor is taken away in the wagon after the hunt, then I believe this shot may be a Taylor POV shot from the deleted scene of him swimming in the water and crossing the concourse in PLANET, although I've never understood why Taylor, if he wanted to escape from the apes, would head into Ape City.

                          Anyway, who knows?

                          -- Rory



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                          Group: pota Message: 47196 From: m c Date: 6/28/2008
                          Subject: Re: What might have been
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                          There are others who could have pulled off Zira... I think Shirley McClaine (sp.?) could have done it... I think the only reason people say "No one but Kim" is because she is ingrained in their head as Zira, but there are many talented actresses from that era that could have pulled it off...

                           

                          And great as Heston was as Taylor, I'm sure that there are other actors that could have pulled it off... At times I think Eastwood could have done it... I know that Paul Newman was a name I seen thrown around, but I don't think he would have been right, not "rough" enough...



                          --- On Fri, 6/27/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

                          From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...>
                          Subject: Re: [pota] Re: What might have been
                          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 6:17 PM

                          As far as I'm concerned, nobody could play Zira but Kim Hunter.
                           
                          Zach   
                           
                          -------Original Message-------
                           
                          Date: 6/24/2008 3:17:42 PM
                          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: [pota] Re: What might have been
                           


                          Wow.Apes STILL surprises me! She would have been the sort of star
                          Arthur Jacobs would have tried to recruit.Just imagine--Ingrid
                          Bergman as a chimp!Not sure if she'd have had that playful ,
                          misbehaving quality that Kim gave Zira, but who knows? What next? Was
                          John Wayne up to play Cornelius?!! John, Scrolls.
                          I would like to have seen how Nancy Kwan would have been as Zira.

                          -- Rory



                           
                           
                           
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                          Group: pota Message: 47197 From: m c Date: 6/28/2008
                          Subject: Re: What might have been
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                          I always thought that Patty Duke would be a passable Zira...

                          --- On Fri, 6/27/08, PofTAfan@... <PofTAfan@...> wrote:
                          From: PofTAfan@... <PofTAfan@...>
                          Subject: Re: [pota] Re: What might have been
                          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 8:12 PM

                          I don't think that Amy Winehouse would be a good choice as Zira,  I would like to see Sophie Marceau play Doctor Zira,


                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: Mark <rkid67@...>
                          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 8:22 pm
                          Subject: [pota] Re: What might have been

                          --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@. ..> wrote:

                          Amy Winehouse as Zira. Pete Doherty as Cornelius. Liam Gallagher as Dr. Zaius.


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                          Group: pota Message: 47198 From: Bobby Smyth Date: 6/28/2008
                          Subject: Re: Wanted
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                          it has to be one of the most blown up statues of all time old liberty
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                          Group: pota Message: 47199 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/28/2008
                          Subject: Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
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                          I'm with you there, Scott. Although I'm glad APES is getting renewed attention for Blu-ray, because money is tight, because the economy is bad -- and I expect it to get worse -- I'm less than thrilled with what I'll have to spend to get this upgrade. Putting aside the issues involved with simply picking a Blu-ray player and upgrading my monitor, and just sticking to the discs themselves, except for what I hope will be some nice extras, this is something I don't HAVE to have. I'm perfectly satisfied looking at what I'm looking at now. Transfers can always be better, and the anamorphic APES transfers aren't perfect, but I'm not suffering in the way I was back in the 90s with that horrible first letterboxed LD of PLANET. (What a bloody bastard of a transfer that was!) I can live happily with what I've got quite awhile longer, but knowing the way I am with this APES stuff, I'll probably buy it very soon after it's released.

                          Anyway, I just read over at TheDigitalBits.com the specks for Blu-ray of THE OMEN, and except for the new audio commentary by the music guys (Nick Redman, Jeff Bond and Lem Dobbs), in which they'll discuss Jerry Goldsmith's score, I have absolutely zero desire to buy this thing. It does make me hopeful that PLANET will have an isolated score and music commentary track, but I hope all the sequels get the same thing. All the APES scores deserve it.

                          -- Rory


                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: scott bosco <digitalcinema@...>
                          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 2:53 pm
                          Subject: Re: [pota] (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?

                          52" Sony Bravia 1080p LCD here - just got it in Nov. However got my first first 16.9 set in 2000 - at the time is was Philips 32" tube
                          Curently have an Oppo DVD player. That mixed with a Anthem D2 Receiver which has a video processor that is pro quality (up converts to 1080P) makes standard DVDs near HD quality. Friends visiting frorm FL wanted to put it to the test while visiting so we went to a local Best Buy to get a Blu player, then to Blockbuster to rent a couple of Blu discs. We did our own test comparision and found it all very disapointing, then returned the player - the picture quality wasn't that much different from what my system is doing already. The upsampling mixed with the processor on the D2 doesn't make a compelling reason to invest in Blu until the prices come way down - and they stop farting around with big difference amongst the players in terms of features - not to mention settle on a software version. I think a lot of people are backing off due to the software bull. No one wants to pay for a player that can't be upgraded in one way or another. Too many people were burned by the whole HD/Blu war and money is tight. Blu Ray just hasn't settled down yet to be trusted. I was a Beta person way back when, and a laserdisc fan. Laserdisc had a wider consumer bass then, than Blu does now. That's reason enough for me to wait a bit longer to see which way the wind is blowing.
                          -Scott B.

                          Haristas@aol. com wrote:
                          With the APES films coming to Blu-ray DVD at the end of 2008, I was wondering how many here are now watching, or plan to buy, a 16X9 TV (LCD or Plasma) display?

                          I had a 38" 16X9 CRT since late 2002 (since given to my brother), but now I look mostly at a 32" LCD 16X9 flat screen, but my sister has a couple 50" Plasmas that are 1080p. I'm just not ready yet to invest in the kind of display device I'd like, but I'll probably get a Blu-ray player by the end of the year and take it over to my sister's just to watch PLANET in 1080p.

                          The one thing I want to say to anyone here still watching the old regular TVs is once you go 16X9 pregressive, there's no going back. Looking at old square TVs actually depresses me.

                          -- Rory

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                          Group: pota Message: 47200 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/28/2008
                          Subject: Anniversary Reminder
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                          Group: pota Message: 47201 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: Cover poll
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                          Agreed on #10. But as most know, I'm partial to BENEATH...
                           
                           
                          Chris L.
                           
                           
                           
                          "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>17 is/was my favorite, but, 10 is in my opinion, the best
                          artistically. <<
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                          Group: pota Message: 47202 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
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                          OK, so did anyone aside from me get the in-joke with the casting of Paul Soles as the owner of the restaurant? And I'm NOT referring to his character being named "Stanley" either. No IMDB cheating.
                           
                           
                          Chris L.
                           
                           
                           
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                          Group: pota Message: 47203 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: Apes sights and sounds
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                          Buck Kartalian was on an episode of Batman last week as one of the Catwoman's henchmen, and a couple of recent episodes featured another very familiar Fox Library sound effect- the leaking air sound heard in BENEATH when the Alpha Omega bomb hits the ground (after the gorillas pull it down) and the propellant starts to leak.
                           
                          As for the aforementioned appearance of Robert Gunner on The Green Hornet, it was literally one of those deals where if you blinked, you'd miss him. He played a detective and had a few lines, and I was hoping that he was going to show up later in the episode. No such luck I'm afraid. One thing I did notice is that he looked a lot better than he did in PLANET. I'm surprised he didn't get more leading roles, because he had a certain look about him that was popular at the time.
                           
                          Two recently viewed episodes of Mission Hill also had POTA references. One was a takeoff on "They go to meet their destiny" (more a reference to the Power Records adaptation), and the other of "Take your stinking paws off me...". Neat little show, currently running Sunday- Friday at 2AM (technically Monday-
                          Saturday) on Adult Swim.
                           
                           
                          Chris L.
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                          Group: pota Message: 47204 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: What might have been
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                          I had to chuckle a little when watching this. I'm not 100% sure, but I'd swear that clip is from my source recording. Back in 2000 I collaborated with someone to put together a couple of POTA rarities VHS tapes, and that was the first time that anyone I had spoken to was aware of the Greg Kinnear interview from 'Later'.
                           
                           
                          Chris L.
                           
                           
                           
                          "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>Well, since we are on the subject of regrets, anybody see this
                          clip? Take
                          it with a grain of salt though...not sure if he's serious or just chiding.
                          Still nice to hear his voice again.

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                          Group: pota Message: 47205 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
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                          "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>By the way, everyone knows where the cornfield was and the Ape Town
                          set from BATTLE, right? <<
                           
                          I don't. Clue me in.
                           
                          BTW, I'll buy a steak dinner for whoever finds the cave/rocky area that Brent and nova head towards in BENEATH. Based on this photo:
                           
                           
                           
                          it's in the park and not an elaborate mockup. BTW, if the link doesn't work, go to eBay and search item number: 130193071050.
                           
                          I'm also drawing a blank right now- what's the "rock pool"? The place where they go swimming at the beginning?
                           
                           
                          Chris L.
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                          Group: pota Message: 47206 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: What might have been
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                          No, that was back from the mind 90's. A couple years before the 30th Anniversary as I recall.
                           
                           
                          Chris L.
                           
                           
                           
                          "Karyl Miller" <gone2thebad@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>Didn't he have Alzheimer's at that point? <<
                           
                           
                           
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                          Group: pota Message: 47207 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: MAJOR POTA NEWS!!!!
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                          "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>Beneath was first broadcast in 1973 in a 2 hour slot.<<
                           
                          I remember catching the scene where the Mutants were unmasking and- somehow- associating the movie with the few clips I had seen of CBS' broadcast of PLANET. That's what got me started on the whole thing.
                           
                           
                          "scott bosco" <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>The trailer wouldn't load. But you're right, part of the trailer is
                          on the "Behind' documentary which is was made me so made - if FOX had it and pulled it for use in that why didn't they use it for the release of the either all the films, or just on the BENEATH disc? <<
                           
                          >>Yes, it now worked - THANKS.
                          That is the teaser I was talking about which was used in parts on one air of the 4:30 movie. You're also right, it is the same that is in BEHIND - but why wasn't it included as a bonus trailer?! I hope they open the vaults and really do the next release proper. <<
                           
                          What you're referring to is actually one of the TV spots. In addition to BEHIND, it was also included on the 1998 Widescreen VHS Box Set release. Incorrectly credited as the theatrical trailer, I might add.
                           
                           
                          Chris L.


                           
                           
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                          Group: pota Message: 47208 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: contact from Fox!!!
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                          "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>Great news Chris! Keep us posted if you hear anything else.
                          <<
                           
                          Will do.
                           
                           
                          "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>Is there anyway you can find out from this person if Fox is
                          planning commentary tracks for each film and isolated scores? <<
                           
                           
                          I haven't heard a thing since I first posted about this, but I'll send a note and see if I get a response.
                           
                           
                          Chris L.
                           
                           
                           
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                          Group: pota Message: 47209 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: Stan Winston
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                          Iron Man was a great film for him to go out on. What was strange to me
                          was the fact that the first time I saw it, he was alive. The second time,
                          he wasn't. Seeing his name in the credits was almost a bit emotional.


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                          Group: pota Message: 47210 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: never mind -- found it (and I was right)...
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                          Jeff Corey also appeared on Barney Miller a couple of times as I recall. Once as an Amish person now that I think about it.
                           
                           
                          Chris L.
                           
                           
                           
                          "scott bosco" <digitalcinema@...> wrote (referring to Gregory Sierra) :
                           
                          >>He also become know for his on going role in the sit-com
                          BARNEY MILLER.

                          The mutant w/glasses is Jeff Corey - a very well know theatrical actor who like many went on to do a lot of TV, especially in the 70's. He also became a director. <<<.html

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                          Group: pota Message: 47211 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: POTA on screen in STAMFORD, CT
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                          Anyone thinking about going to this? It's only a two hour drive for me,
                          so I might check it out.


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                          Group: pota Message: 47212 From: Chris Lawless Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: ESCAPE mysteries
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                          "John Brandon Kirtley" <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>Have just watched Escape on Channel 5 in UK. It's still a great
                          film but Cornelius's death was definatley cut to a blink or youll miss it shot. Yet they kept his fall from the top deck? <<
                           
                          It seems that some strange edits are made to Apes film in the UK. From the IMDB:
                           
                          >>A heavily edited version of the film was shown on British
                          television c.1991 which excised most of the violent and horrific scenes, most notably from the last third of the film, including both scenes where Brent is forced to attack Nova, the revelation of the underground humans true appearance, the fight Brent & Taylor are forced to have in the prison cell, the killing of the mutant guard on a spiked door, and much of the shoot-out at the film's climax. This was identical to the original BBFC-cut cinema version. <<
                           
                          Anyone remember viewing this version either on TV or at the theaters? I'm kind of surprised that it was censored for it's theatrical run.
                           
                           
                          "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>I watched it too---and spotted something for the first time ,
                          despite
                          watching Escape a gazillion times.I'm sure everybody else has already
                          spotted this, but it was a new angle for me.When Armando's circus is
                          being searched, he refers to the baby chimp as 'he', and, so, he is
                          aware of Zira's switching of the babies.That I had spotted before.But
                          what had eluded me until yesterday was that when Zira and Cornelius
                          are on the tanker and the baby is hungry, Zira ALSO refers to 'he',
                          not 'she', and Cornelius doesn't query it.So, Cornelius clearly
                          DOESN'T know about the switch, it's purely a Zira strategy.Which is
                          even more poignant,I think. <<
                           
                          But she had a boy, so why **wouldn't** Zira refer to the baby as a 'he'?
                           
                          As for what Armando said, I'd almost guess that it was a mistake in the script. He was pushing the 'first chimpanzee ever born in a Circus' thing with the police, and since the birth was registered (something he referred to in CONQUEST), I can't imagine that he'd make a potentially implicating mistake like that.
                           
                           
                          "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>I always assumed that Armando realized the switch after C&Z
                          left when he
                          noticed the St. Francis medal on the baby chimp. <<
                           
                          John (again):
                           
                          >>I also think Armando was close enough to his chimps to recognise
                          them
                          individually and that Zira knew that--so there was no point in
                          removing the medallion.It' s really the fact that Cornelius didn't
                          know that resonated with me--did Zira worry he's disapprove? <<
                           
                          "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
                           
                          >>Salome was wearing the medallion as well when thrown into the
                          water. <<
                           
                          There's definitely a filming goof somewhere. If Salome had the medallion when she was thrown into the water, how could Milo have it on at the end of the film?
                           
                          Just to be sure (it's been a while since I've watched ESCAPE), do we see the medallion on Milo at the end? Also, is he seen at all (with or without the medallion) after Cornelius and Zira leave?
                           
                           
                          Chris L.
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           

                           
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                          Group: pota Message: 47213 From: James Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: Anniversary Reminder
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                          Happy Anniversary Conquest!

                          To celebrate the anniversary, a Program Booklet has been created and is available here in the group's Files Section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Programs/Conquest%20Program.pdf.

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                          Group: pota Message: 47214 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: Anniversary Reminder
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                          Very very nice....

                          Bruce


                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: James <JamesA1102@...>
                          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 7:49 am
                          Subject: [pota] Re: Anniversary Reminder

                          Happy Anniversary Conquest!
                          To celebrate the anniversary, a Program Booklet has been created and is available here in the group's Files Section: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ files/Programs/ Conquest% 20Program. pdf.
                          --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, pota@yahoogroups. com wrote:
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                          > Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group
                          > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ cal
                          >
                          > Conquest premiered this day in 1972
                          > Sunday June 29, 2008
                          > All Day
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                          Group: pota Message: 47215 From: shanter2002 Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: never mind -- found it (and I was right)...
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                          Jeff Corey is also brilliant as one of the really bad guys in True
                          Grit. He was a class act in real life. John, Scrolls.
                          >
                          > Jeff Corey also appeared on Barney Miller a couple of times as I
                          recall.
                          > Once as an Amish person now that I think about it.
                          >
                          >
                          > Chris L.
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > "scott bosco" <digitalcinema@...> wrote (referring to Gregory
                          > Sierra) :
                          >
                          > >>He also become know for his on going role in the sit-com BARNEY
                          MILLER.
                          >
                          > The mutant w/glasses is Jeff Corey - a very well know theatrical
                          actor
                          > who like many went on to do a lot of TV, especially in the 70's. He
                          also
                          > became a director. <<
                          >
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                          Group: pota Message: 47216 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/29/2008
                          Subject: Re: ESCAPE mysteries
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                          Armando when he was with Dr. Dixon when they were going to help Zira have her baby Armando said to Lewis
                          "and
                          your goddaughter Salome." Armando knew about the switch, I think that he knew what Zira was going to do
                           because he was there when Zira went into the cage with Heloise and made the switch with her.

                          Kevin


                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
                          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 2:31 am
                          Subject: [pota] ESCAPE mysteries

                          "John Brandon Kirtley" <johnbkirtley@ hotmail.com> wrote:
                           
                          >>Have just watched Escape on Channel 5 in UK. It's still a great
                          film but Cornelius's death was definatley cut to a blink or youll miss it shot. Yet they kept his fall from the top deck? <<
                           
                          It seems that some strange edits are made to Apes film in the UK. From the IMDB:
                           
                          >>A heavily edited version of the film was shown on British
                          television c.1991 which excised most of the violent and horrific scenes, most notably from the last third of the film, including both scenes where Brent is forced to attack Nova, the revelation of the underground humans true appearance, the fight Brent & Taylor are forced to have in the prison cell, the killing of the mutant guard on a spiked door, and much of the shoot-out at the film's climax. This was identical to the original BBFC-cut cinema version. <<
                           
                          Anyone remember viewing this version either on TV or at the theaters? I'm kind of surprised that it was censored for it's theatrical run.
                           
                           
                          "shanter2002" <john@johnroche6. wanadoo.co. uk> wrote:
                           
                          >>I watched it too---and spotted something for the first time ,
                          despite
                          watching Escape a gazillion times.I'm sure everybody else has already
                          spotted this, but it was a new angle for me.When Armando's circus is
                          being searched, he refers to the baby chimp as 'he', and, so, he is
                          aware of Zira's switching of the babies.That I had spotted before.But
                          what had eluded me until yesterday was that when Zira and Cornelius
                          are on the tanker and the baby is hungry, Zira ALSO refers to 'he',
                          not 'she', and Cornelius doesn't query it.So, Cornelius clearly
                          DOESN'T know about the switch, it's purely a Zira strategy.Which is
                          even more poignant,I think. <<
                           
                          But she had a boy, so why **wouldn't** Zira refer to the baby as a 'he'?
                           
                          As for what Armando said, I'd almost guess that it was a mistake in the script. He was pushing the 'first chimpanzee ever born in a Circus' thing with the police, and since the birth was registered (something he referred to in CONQUEST), I can't imagine that he'd make a potentially implicating mistake like that.
                           
                           
                          "James" <JamesA1102@aol. com> wrote:
                           
                          >>I always assumed that Armando realized the switch after C&Z
                          left when he
                          noticed the St. Francis medal on the baby chimp. <<
                           
                          John (again):
                           
                          >>I also think Armando was close enough to his chimps to recognise
                          them
                          individually and that Zira knew that--so there was no point in
                          removing the medallion.It' s really the fact that Cornelius didn't
                          know that resonated with me--did Zira worry he's disapprove? <<
                           
                          "drhasslein" <drhasslein@yahoo. com> wrote:
                           
                          >>Salome was wearing the medallion as well when thrown into the
                          water. <<
                           
                          There's definitely a filming goof somewhere. If Salome had the medallion when she was thrown into the water, how could Milo have it on at the end of the film?
                           
                          Just to be sure (it's been a while since I've watched ESCAPE), do we see the medallion on Milo at the end? Also, is he seen at all (with or without the medallion) after Cornelius and Zira leave?
                           
                           
                          Chris L.
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           
                           

                           


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