>>Aboro, I had wondered if maybe they were actually speaking for

>>And did you see that look Mendez gave Brent after he said,

>>Nice Quest reference in VB too.

>>How 'bout that Dr. Girlfriend?

>>Armando when he was with Dr. Dixon when they were going to help

>>Gunner is in OUR MAN FLINT as a Sean Connery lookalike, Agent 0008.

>>As for the aforementioned appearance of Robert Gunner on The Green

>>Yes Chris...the Rock Pool is where the astronauts go

>>Someone wasn't paying attention to their continuity while

Thanks again William.

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> found some planet photos from william burge
>

That's not a test set. It's the UK set. They had black borders.

>
>
> I didn't even know these existed! And NO I am NOT bidding on them.
>
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-COMPLETE-CARD-TEST-SET-TOPPS_W0QQitemZ330248178441QQihZ014QQcategoryZ219QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
>

That's really rude that someone would do that.

But if you don't want to wait for the episode to air on the SciFi channel it is available on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMQHzTNf7vI

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> I got an email from a website (semi popular) that gave away the ending of this season's Dr Who. Not a word saying "spoiler" or anything. Talk about spoiling the ending.
> Bruce
>

I always thought that that was like old World War II movies where the Germans or Japanese would speak their native language the first few scenes then switch to english for the rest of the film.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "aboro3085" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> What's even odder is the fact that the Mutants actually use that
> primitive form of communication ("talking") to speak to each other a
> couple times in the film...

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

> From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 7:18 PM
> I'm wondering if it's the scene where Logan and
> Jessica are first
> exploring the outside world and they go swimming.
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Tim "apefan""
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> >>Yes Chris...the Rock Pool is where the astronauts
> go
> swimming.....apparantly it was used in Logan's Run too
> but I don't know
> where... <<
>
>

Um, my birthday just recently passed (June 22) ...and uh, gee. Well. Never mind. 

Scott B.

I guess we share the same birth date -- of the month anyway (June 22).

-- Rory

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"zasco1957" <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote:

 

>>Aboro, I had wondered if maybe they were actually speaking for Brent's
benefit? <<

 

I don't think he was around at that point. Neither was DPC character for that matter. I seem to recall in one

of the adaptations that the "Do you know the range of their city" scene happens much later in the story- which would explain his absence. I wonder if that's how it was originally filmed, and then it was broken down into two sections later. The first starting we "We've no defense" and end with "Adults to the Cathedral, children indoors" to set up the advancing ape army and the other with "What will you do, Holiness?" showing that the city was about to be invaded.

 

 

>>And did you see that look Mendez gave Brent after he said, "Empty
the streets...they are to find the City of the Dead"? <<

 

Later on in his career, Paul Richards had an icy coldness about him and I think that served the character well. And while we're on the subject of that line, did Mendez tell everyone to hide so it would seem like a dead city when the gorillas arrived, or did he tell everyone to commit suicide? Albina drinking the poison at the end would seem to indicate the latter, but there were a lot of mutants around when the gorillas first arrived.

 

 

Chris L.

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*** It's been quite awhile since I read the novel, but if I remember right, Brent actually speaks that line, he doesn't "think" it... Though the Mutants are advanced enough to "speak" telepathically to Brent, Brent isn't advanced enough to answer them in the same fashion... If so, then they would have never had to speak to him at all and everything could have been "thought" between Brent and the Mutants... *** --- On Sun, 7/6/08, scott bosco <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: scott bosco <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Beneath Mutants To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 10:41 PM In the novel Mendez gives Brent an annoyed look in that scene because he telepathically tells Brent to "take off his mask".  Brent thinks back to Mendez that he's not wearing one - which explains Mendez's miffed look and Mendez's curtness with the "city of the dead" line. Scott B.

>12a. Re: The Venture Brothers
>Posted by: "LordTZer0@..." LordTZer0@... LordTZer0
>Your reference to Hunter's Legacy lost me. Are you talking about the episode
>a couple weeks back where you see Brock and Hunter in OSI?
>His sex change.

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:59 AM, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

Hi Jessica, I received my Brent and Burke head today. The Brent head is Fantastic and spot on for scale. The Burke head is from her early sculpt, the likeness is great but the scale is off. It is slightly too small for a 12'' body. I am going to contact her as she addressed this issue quite early on and re-sculpted the head and then revised the hair. I can't wait to see the outfits. Her painting does look a bit suspect.

 
Rob

---

To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: jessicarotich@...

Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:42:43 -0700

Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

Rob,

 

The Virdon/Burke outfits I am going to try to finish this weekend, so hopefully I can mail them out by Monday!!  Have you purchased your figures yet? 

 

This is what's left for Burke:  pants, shirt, vest

This is what's left for Virdon:  belt loops, shirt, belt and pack.

 

I have not received the Burke heads I ordered.  I paid for one painted and one unpainted.  I have heard that her painting is hit or miss. 

 

Jessica.

 

On 7/4/08, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

Hi Jessica, how are the Virdon and Burke outfits coming along? Have you received your Burke head yet?

Rob
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>
> Rob
>
>
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
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--- On Mon, 7/7/08, digitalcinema <digitalcinema@...> wrote:

> From: digitalcinema <digitalcinema@...>
> Subject: [pota] Posted Pics
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:14 PM
> Hi,
> I finally got around to scan and post a few behind the
> scenes pics from
> my collection - since there's been a bit about the Ape
> City and other
> locals posted I stuck to that theme.
> Hope you like.
> - Scott B.

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, billy simons <goapebilly@...> wrote:

> From: billy simons <goapebilly@...>
> Subject: [pota] New pix
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:51 PM
> Iveadded pix to goapebillys aperoom. pix of new zira
> apeonaut also
> general ursus suana costume from beneath.also pictures of
> ape display
> from planet hollywood ,under planet hollywood pix
> goapebilly

I'm sorry I meant that is was a dramatic device. Just as in those old war movies the Germans weren't really supposed to be speaking english. They are just shown to be speaking english for the sake of the audience. One of the Star Trek movies did this too. Kirk is put on trial by the Klingons and the Klingon prosecutor begins speaking Klingon but then switches over to english. Kirk is shown still holding the translator to his ear which suggests that the prosecutor is still speaking in Klingon but the audience is hearing it in english. The same could be true of the mutants. They are really communicating telepathically but they they are shown speaking for the audiences sake.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> *** This would make more sense if the Mutants were a generally speaking group... However, according to them they rarely speak and use telepathy to communicate... That said, your theory would hold more water if they showed the Mutants just doing their quick head jerk and having the voices overdubbed over their non-speaking faces to simulate that they are speaking but telepathically... ***
>

Those are GREAT pics...where did you get the ape city pics??
Thanks for posting!!

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, digitalcinema <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: digitalcinema <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pota] Posted Pics
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:14 PM
> Hi,
> I finally got around to scan and post a few behind the
> scenes pics from
> my collection - since there's been a bit about the Ape
> City and other
> locals posted I stuck to that theme.
> Hope you like.
> - Scott B.

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

> From: James <JamesA1102@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Beneath Mutants
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 6:08 PM
> I'm sorry I meant that is was a dramatic device. Just as
> in those old
> war movies the Germans weren't really supposed to be
> speaking english.
> They are just shown to be speaking english for the sake of
> the audience.
> One of the Star Trek movies did this too. Kirk is put on
> trial by the
> Klingons and the Klingon prosecutor begins speaking Klingon
> but then
> switches over to english. Kirk is shown still holding the
> translator to
> his ear which suggests that the prosecutor is still
> speaking in Klingon
> but the audience is hearing it in english. The same could
> be true of the
> mutants. They are really communicating telepathically but
> they they are
> shown speaking for the audiences sake.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c <aboro3085@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > *** This would make more sense if the Mutants were a
> generally
> speaking group... However, according to them they rarely
> speak and use
> telepathy to communicate... That said, your theory would
> hold more water
> if they showed the Mutants just doing their quick head jerk
> and having
> the voices overdubbed over their non-speaking faces to
> simulate that
> they are speaking but telepathically... ***
> >

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

> From: James <JamesA1102@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Beneath Mutants
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 6:08 PM
> I'm sorry I meant that is was a dramatic device. Just as
> in those old
> war movies the Germans weren't really supposed to be
> speaking english.
> They are just shown to be speaking english for the sake of
> the audience.
> One of the Star Trek movies did this too. Kirk is put on
> trial by the
> Klingons and the Klingon prosecutor begins speaking Klingon
> but then
> switches over to english. Kirk is shown still holding the
> translator to
> his ear which suggests that the prosecutor is still
> speaking in Klingon
> but the audience is hearing it in english. The same could
> be true of the
> mutants. They are really communicating telepathically but
> they they are
> shown speaking for the audiences sake.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c <aboro3085@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > *** This would make more sense if the Mutants were a
> generally
> speaking group... However, according to them they rarely
> speak and use
> telepathy to communicate... That said, your theory would
> hold more water
> if they showed the Mutants just doing their quick head jerk
> and having
> the voices overdubbed over their non-speaking faces to
> simulate that
> they are speaking but telepathically... ***
> >

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:

> From: scott bosco <digitalcinema@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Posted Pics
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 6:39 PM
> Thanks Tim,
> I've had them for years - they're all from 4x5
> trans. Since you're interested in the City I'll
> look for more.
> - Scott B.
>
> "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
> Those are GREAT pics...where did you get the ape
> city pics??
> Thanks for posting!!
>
> --- On Mon, 7/7/08, digitalcinema
> <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> > From: digitalcinema <digitalcinema@...>
> > Subject: [pota] Posted Pics
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:14 PM
> > Hi,
> > I finally got around to scan and post a few behind the
> > scenes pics from
> > my collection - since there's been a bit about the
> Ape
> > City and other
> > locals posted I stuck to that theme.
> > Hope you like.
> > - Scott B.

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...> wrote:

> From: goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] New pix
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 6:41 PM
> hi ys i do own the ursus sauna its in my living room at the
> moment, i wish
> it was original zira apeonaut,no its a great repo,is
> incredible in person,i
> have zira and dr milo awaiting cornelius .then ill have all
> 3.
> your right incredible 6 ft pix 2 inches away,did you get
> good look at back
> of head ,there was a helmet there at one time
> goapebilly
>
>
> In a message dated 7/7/2008 5:54:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Billy! Do you own the Zira astronaut and Sauna
> Ursus?? if not where
> are they? I can't believe they put the bando on
> backwards...Thanks Billy! Do
> you own the Zira astronaut and Sauna U
>
> --- On Mon, 7/7/08, billy simons <_goapebilly@..._
> (mailto:goapebilly@...) > wrote:
>
> > From: billy simons <_goapebilly@..._
> (mailto:goapebilly@...) >
> > Subject: [pota] New pix
> > To: _pota@..._
> (mailto:pota@yahoogroups.com)
> > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:51 PM
> > Iveadded pix to goapebillys aperoom. pix of new zira
> > apeonaut also
> > general ursus suana costume from beneath.also
> pictures of
> > ape display
> > from planet hollywood ,under planet hollywood pix
> > goapebilly
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Brian P <brianspro@...> wrote:

> From: Brian P <brianspro@...>
> Subject: RE: [pota] Location report - Malibu Creek State Park
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 8:43 PM
> I had always assumed that Ape City was contructed on the
> 20th Century Fox ranch (where ever that is) and it seemed
> to be used in some other TV shows, including the Planet of
> the Apes TV series, for several years. I have always
> wanted to visit Ape City but I figured it was no longer
> standing or was on private property. Do you know if any of
> the Ape City buildings are still standing?
>
>
>
>
>
> _____

great pix Scott.  Thanks for sharing!   Joanne   --- On Mon, 7/7/08, digitalcinema <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: digitalcinema <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> Subject: [pota] Posted Pics To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:14 PM Hi, I finally got around to scan and post a few behind the scenes pics from my collection - since there's been a bit about the Ape City and other locals posted I stuck to that theme. Hope you like. - Scott B.

On 7/7/08, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:

You're very welcomed Joanne - more to follow..

- Scott B.

~~Joanne~~ <josievan@...> wrote:

great pix Scott.  Thanks for sharing!   Joanne     --- On Mon, 7/7/08, digitalcinema <digitalcinema@...> wrote: From: digitalcinema <digitalcinema@...> Subject: [pota] Posted Pics To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:14 PM Hi, I finally got around to scan and post a few behind the scenes pics from my collection - since there's been a bit about the Ape City and other locals posted I stuck to that theme. Hope you like. - Scott B.

 

Thank you for sharing.  It's always a great thing to see ape photos I had never seen before.

 

Jessica.

 

On 7/7/08, scott bosco <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> wrote:

You're very welcomed Joanne - more to follow..

- Scott B.

~~Joanne~~ <josievan@yahoo. com> wrote:

great pix Scott.  Thanks for sharing!   Joanne     --- On Mon, 7/7/08, digitalcinema <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: digitalcinema <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> Subject: [pota] Posted Pics To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:14 PM Hi, I finally got around to scan and post a few behind the scenes pics from my collection - since there's been a bit about the Ape City and other locals posted I stuck to that theme. Hope you like. - Scott B.

 

Sorry, I can´t find the pics... Any clue?
JR

Just follow this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew

And that's to William, Scott and Billy for all the great pics.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "joseramonruizdiez" <joseramonruizdiez@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I can´t find the pics... Any clue?
> JR
>

Exactly! It's just a dramatic device for the sake of the audience.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> And was it "Hunt for Red October" that had Connery speaking Russian ..then the camera pulled into a closeup of his mouth and as it pulled back he was speaking English!
>
>
> --- On Mon, 7/7/08, James JamesA1102@... wrote:
>
> > From: James JamesA1102@...
> > Subject: [pota] Re: Beneath Mutants
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 6:08 PM
> > I'm sorry I meant that is was a dramatic device. Just as
> > in those old
> > war movies the Germans weren't really supposed to be
> > speaking english.
> > They are just shown to be speaking english for the sake of
> > the audience.
> > One of the Star Trek movies did this too. Kirk is put on
> > trial by the
> > Klingons and the Klingon prosecutor begins speaking Klingon
> > but then
> > switches over to english. Kirk is shown still holding the
> > translator to
> > his ear which suggests that the prosecutor is still
> > speaking in Klingon
> > but the audience is hearing it in english. The same could
> > be true of the
> > mutants. They are really communicating telepathically but
> > they they are
> > shown speaking for the audiences sake.
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c aboro3085@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > *** This would make more sense if the Mutants were a
> > generally
> > speaking group... However, according to them they rarely
> > speak and use
> > telepathy to communicate... That said, your theory would
> > hold more water
> > if they showed the Mutants just doing their quick head jerk
> > and having
> > the voices overdubbed over their non-speaking faces to
> > simulate that
> > they are speaking but telepathically... ***
> > >
>

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...> wrote:

> From: goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] New pix
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 9:20 PM
> les hemstock owned it,he sent it to a mutal friend in l.a.
> who mounted it
> and had ursus molds to make a silicone head.pix were taking
> before mounted of
> tags and inner markings goapebilly
>
>
> In a message dated 7/7/2008 9:13:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Cool! Where did you acquire the Sauna Ursus from?
> The Zira does look great!
>
> --- On Mon, 7/7/08, _goapebilly@..._
> (mailto:goapebilly@...)
> <_goapebilly@..._ (mailto:goapebilly@...) >
> wrote:
>
> > From: _goapebilly@..._ (mailto:goapebilly@...)
>
> <_goapebilly@..._ (mailto:goapebilly@...) >
> > Subject: Re: [pota] New pix
> > To: _pota@..._
> (mailto:pota@yahoogroups.com)
> > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 6:41 PM
> > hi ys i do own the ursus sauna its in my living room
> at the
> > moment, i wish
> > it was original zira apeonaut,no its a great repo,is
> > incredible in person,i
> > have zira and dr milo awaiting cornelius .then ill
> have all
> > 3.
> > your right incredible 6 ft pix 2 inches away,did you
> get
> > good look at back
> > of head ,there was a helmet there at one time
> > goapebilly
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/7/2008 5:54:44 P.M. Eastern
> Daylight
> > Time,
> > _apefan23@..._ (mailto:apefan23@...)
> writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Billy! Do you own the Zira astronaut and Sauna
> > Ursus?? if not where
> > are they? I can't believe they put the bando on
> > backwards... backwards...<WBR>Tha
> > you own the Zira astronaut and Sauna U
> >
> > --- On Mon, 7/7/08, billy simons
> <__goapebilly@_goapeb_
> (mailto:_goapebilly@...) _
> > (mailto:_goapebilly@..._
> (mailto:goapebilly@...) ) > wrote:
> >
> > > From: billy simons <__goapebilly@_goapeb_
> (mailto:_goapebilly@...) _
> > (mailto:_goapebilly@..._
> (mailto:goapebilly@...) ) >
> > > Subject: [pota] New pix
> > > To: __pota@yahoogroups._po_
> (mailto:_pota@...) _
> > (mailto:_pota@..._
> (mailto:pota@yahoogroups.com) )
> > > Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 4:51 PM
> > > Iveadded pix to goapebillys aperoom. pix of new
> zira
> > > apeonaut also
> > > general ursus suana costume from beneath.also
> > pictures of
> > > ape display
> > > from planet hollywood ,under planet hollywood pix
>
> > > goapebilly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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On 7/8/08, John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:

Dear Jessica and Rob,

 

I am close to picking up my Chimp costume and have just recieved my new appliance. I will post pictures and if you like the costume maybe I can convince the costumer to make another one?  We should all get together at some point and invade a convention enmass! 

 

Another Idea is for a hall of members in full make-up and costume for the site. Maybe this could kick start the Wiki site. We could up load our stories and thoughts onto youtube ( I have an idea to start a channel dedicated to POTA) in full make-up.

 

Anyway getting a bit carried away.....

 

John

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From: rob reading

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 07 July 2008 23:12

Subject: RE: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

 

I purchased a Deluxe male chimp appliance from Brian about two years ago. They are excellent quality, second only to the originals. I have thre of those, cost me a fortune and too dlicate to do much with apart from look at. I would love my own Cornelius outfit, one day maybe. I can't wait to check out the funky pocket.
 
Rob

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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:49:54 -0700
Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available

Rob,

 

When you receive the outfits, check out Virdon's funky pants pocket.  That's a swatch of fabric that I will be using for my future Zira costume that I will be sewing for myself.  I am in contact with Brian from Apemania, and my lifelong dream is almost a reality...I will in a few months' time be the proud owner (and be happy to get in the goo) of Zira's appliances.

 

Jessica.

 

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:59 AM, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

Hi Jessica, I received my Brent and Burke head today. The Brent head is Fantastic and spot on for scale. The Burke head is from her early sculpt, the likeness is great but the scale is off. It is slightly too small for a 12'' body. I am going to contact her as she addressed this issue quite early on and re-sculpted the head and then revised the hair. I can't wait to see the outfits. Her painting does look a bit suspect.

 
Rob

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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:42:43 -0700

Subject: Re: [pota] New Burke head sculpt available


 

Rob,

 

The Virdon/Burke outfits I am going to try to finish this weekend, so hopefully I can mail them out by Monday!!  Have you purchased your figures yet? 

 

This is what's left for Burke:  pants, shirt, vest

This is what's left for Virdon:  belt loops, shirt, belt and pack.

 

I have not received the Burke heads I ordered.  I paid for one painted and one unpainted.  I have heard that her painting is hit or miss. 

 

Jessica.

 

On 7/4/08, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

Hi Jessica, how are the Virdon and Burke outfits coming along? Have you received your Burke head yet?

Rob
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> There are no buildings left. I understand they were demolished
around 1974-75, when the Fox Ranch became Malibu Creek State Park.

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On Jul 7, 2008, at 12:38:38 PM, "Rich Handley" <handleyr@...> wrote:

Hunter had a sex change? Well, as long as he continues to maintain
his excellent POTA Archive, it's all the same to me.

I am ,of course referring to the secret agent in The Venture Bros. based

on Hunter S. Thompson, and not Kim Hunter or the Hunter in the group.

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I'm wondering if it's the scene where Logan and Jessica are first exploring the outside world and they go swimming.

Chris L.

Yes, it is. You don't see much of the pool. Also that stoney river bed they walk on, and she sees the lizard, is in the park. Then a lot of BENEATH inspired matte paintings take over.

As I've said before -- don't think much of LOGAN'S RUN. Really a terrible movie. Goldsmith's score one of the few good things about it. I hear it's being remade. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

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I had always assumed that Ape City was contructed on the 20th Century Fox ranch (where ever that is) and it seemed to be used in some other TV shows, including the Planet of the Apes TV series, for several years. I have always wanted to visit Ape City but I figured it was no longer standing or was on private property. Do you know if any of the Ape City buildings are still standing?

Most of Ape City was torn down in 1971 after flooding cause Century Lake to rise to the level of the amphitheater and eroded the ground out from around most of the structures. They left the amphitheater there until early 1975 (it appears in the TV show) when, after Fox sold the ranch to the state to make the park, it too was bulldozed.

Pictures of the last days of Ape City can be seen at Cloudster.com -- or something -- you know, that Icarus site.

-- Rory

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On Jul 7, 2008, at 1:49:54 PM, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

I will in a few months' time be the proud owner (and be happy to get in the goo) of Zira's appliances.

You're having them custom made?

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On Jul 7, 2008, at 7:43:49 PM, "Brian P" <brianspro@...> wrote:

Do you know if any of the Ape City buildings are still standing?

From what I hear you might find bits of gunite and rebar

but that's about it. Little more than was left by M*A*S*H.

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Where is Malibu Creek State Park? I know there is a park with a creek near Vasquez Rocks

It's nowhere near Vasquez Rocks. Malibu Creek State Park is in the Santa Monica Mountains northwest of LA. Google Earth it and you can't miss it.

By the way, the wagon scene (Brent fighting the gorilla) was filmed at Vasquez Rocks. The stunt doubles shot on location. The shots with James Franciscus are rear projection in the studio.

-- Rory


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian P <brianspro@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 1:26 pm
Subject: RE: [pota] Re: Location report - Malibu Creek State Park

That is a shame that those external sets were not preserved as historic landmarks. Perhaps they were far to damaged to begin with and posed a risk to patrons of the new park. So there were made of concrete? I wasn't sure if they were merely plastered over chicken wire or something like that and far more temporary in structure. You mentioned how the site of the human cage was on top of the "Ape Wall" and that some of the steps remain. Is there an actual Ape Wall structure still there or was that merely implied in the film?

I always dreamed of visiting those sets some day. I believe some of the other shows that made use of Ape City was Logan's Run (not sure), OtherWorld (not sure), Buck Rogers (a second season episode.. The Guardians or The Crystals... don't remember which), Planet of the Apes TV (of course.. almost weekly), and perhaps a few other sci-fi series.

Where is Malibu Creek State Park? I know there is a park with a creek near Vasquez Rocks (a rock outcropping used in many films and tv series as a rocky desert location including where Kirk fought the Gorn) that has been used for a filming location on occasion. I once visited Vasquez Rocks to film my own sci-fi amature Super8mm film while a crew was filming the Buck Rogers episode "Journey to Oasis". I got to meet the film directory (who recommended Red Rock Canyon as a great location for my Mars) and the doubles for Buck Rogers and Hawk. Gil Gerald was not on site. I took some photos of these actors for them and continued to write them as pen pals for a year or so after. I also have a humorous photo of one of the "cave men" up on the rocks flipping me off. I guess he didn't like his picture being taken. LOL.

I think we would all like to view any photographs you may have taken while on your Planet of the Apes expedition. Perhaps you may post them in the board's file section?

Brian

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--- On Tue, 7/8/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

> From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Location report - Malibu Creek State Park
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 3:00 PM
> Cool! Great report. I hope to visit there someday
> myself. I envy you.
>
>
>
> By the way, in BENEATH, as the gorilla army is marching out
> of Ape City, in the last shot before the film cuts back to
> Brent and Nova, you can see Dr. Zaius and General Ursus at
> the head of the army riding along the Forest Trail (far
> lower right corner of Panavision frame).
>
>
>
>
> I've read that the increase in vegetation along
> Century Lake is because of the silt that has deposited in
> the reservoir bed and that unless it's dredged out, the
> "lake" will eventually be filled in. Malibu
> Lake, further northwest above where MASH was shot, spends
> over a million a year clearing out the silt.
>
>
>
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike M <mmuse@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:58 am
> Subject: [pota] Location report - Malibu Creek State Park
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> I just returned from a trip to California, specifically to
> visit as
>
> many Planet of the Apes fiming locations as possible, and I
> thought
>
> I would pass along some of my observations.
>
>
>
> Malibu Creek State Park
>
>
>
> The cornfield was definitely filmed in the big meadow in
> the
>
> southeast part of the park. There is a gravel road that
> ends at
>
> what is now the Group Campground (I believe that this road
> is also
>
> where they filmed the scene when Cornelius meets Zira and
> Lucius
>
> with the wagon). There is a stand of oak trees at the
> Group
>
> Campground area, this appears to be where the wagons were
> parked and
>
> the ape photographer was set up after the hunt. I took
> along some
>
> reference photos and found somthing interesting, if you
> look at the
>
> British lobby card with the two gorilla hunters carrying
> Taylor to
>
> the wagons after the hunt (this lobby card can be found on
> Hunter
>
> Goatley's website - top right corner of the U.K. lobby
> cards) right
>
> above Taylor's bound hands you can see an object on the
> hills at the
>
> far end of the cornfield (the "How Green Was My
> Valley" hills).
>
> That is a fairly large water storage tank, and it is still
> there
>
> now. I was curious if you could see this water tank in the
> movie, I
>
> re-watched the hunt scene last night and they were careful
> to never
>
> show the right side of the hill where the tank is located.
>
>
>
> The rock pool was next - looks just like the movie to me.
> They were
>
> actually filming the day I was there, a group of 20-year
> olds
>
> dressed as 70's hippies (tie-dyed shirts and
> macrame' bikinis), no
>
> idea what they were filming.
>
>
>
> I then climbed to the large flat area at the top of the
> "Planet of
>
> the Apes Wall". I have no doubt that this is the cage
> area, as Rory
>
> has stated. The large rock at the top of the wall was
> where the Ape
>
> building was located. The set of steps from this rock up
> to the
>
> flat area, and a smaller set of the side where Dr. Zaius
> walked up
>
> are still there. When Cornelius enters this scene in the
> movie, I
>
> always thought the water below him was Century Lake, but it
> was
>
> actually Malibu Creek, the Visitors Center and the bridge
> over
>
> Malibu Creek are just downstream from this point. Without
> the trees
>
> you could probably see the Rock Pool from this vantage
> point.
>
>
>
> The site of Ape City is probably the most changed, you
> cannot even
>
> see Century Lake from here now, the vegetation around the
> Lake is
>
> very thick now. However, as Jeff Krueger stated long ago,
> there
>
> are still hundreds of pieces of broken concrete scattered
> in the
>
> brush (I assume from the Amphitheater), so I did get my own
> piece of
>
> Ape City. You can walk further down and cross Malibu Creek
> and walk
>
> on the far side of Century Lake under the large evergreen
> fir trees
>
> and get a better view of the lake. This trail is called
> the Forest
>
> Trail.
>
>
>
> I was also curious about something else that Rory brought
> up. Where
>
> did they film the scene where Taylor was shot during the
> hunt? The
>
> only place I saw that fit was along the Crags Road where it
>
>
> parallels the Las Virgenes Creek between the Malibu Creek
>
> crossing and the Trailhead (below the How Green Was My
> Valley
>
> hills). The road here is about 20 to 30 feet higher than
> the
>
> creek with several pools along the creek large enough to
> have fit
>
> the movie.
>
>
>
> I would have to say that visiting the park did not detract
> from the
>
> movie experience at all to me. The distances involved and
> the size
>
> of the hills and the Goat Buttes where just what I would
> have
>
> expected, especially on a sunny June day just like 41 years
> ago! I
>
> definitely plan to visit again in the future.
>
>
>
> Point Dume
>
>
>
> From the cliffs above and from the beach, it appears that
> little has
>
> changed, other than the cliffs are used as nesting sites by
> seagulls
>
> and pelicans, so some of the cliffs have been stained white
> with
>
> their droppings. If you go, note that there is very
> limited parking
>
> at the top, with No Parking signs everywhere else.
>
>
>
> Red Rock Canyon State Park
>
>
>
> If you want to see where the Ape Army marched in Beneath,
> just take
>
> the Hagen Canyon loop hike (about a mile) and you should
> recognize
>
> most of the scenery.

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On Jul 7, 2008, at 1:49:54 PM, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

I will in a few months' time be the proud owner (and be happy to get in the goo) of Zira's appliances.

You're having them custom made?

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