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Group: pota Message: 47640 From: James Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: MONSTERAMA: PLANET OF THE APES COLLECTIBLES/ APEMANIA, 7/18/2008
Group: pota Message: 47641 From: James Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
Group: pota Message: 47642 From: Rich Handley Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4108
Group: pota Message: 47643 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: 35 years ago today....
Group: pota Message: 47644 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Pictures in posts...
Group: pota Message: 47645 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Lake Powell Locations
Group: pota Message: 47646 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: BENEATH observation
Group: pota Message: 47647 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in SEATTLE tonight and this weekend!!!
Group: pota Message: 47648 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Revised "Overlook"
Group: pota Message: 47649 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: (OT) New book of interest
Group: pota Message: 47650 From: zasco1957 Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4108
Group: pota Message: 47651 From: apecalypsenow Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: RORY: about the upcoming BLUE RAY edition/POTA DVD "errors" to fix
Group: pota Message: 47652 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: RORY: about the upcoming BLUE RAY edition/POTA DVD "errors" to f
Group: pota Message: 47653 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
Group: pota Message: 47654 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
Group: pota Message: 47655 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Beneath Mutants
Group: pota Message: 47656 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS, YET....
Group: pota Message: 47657 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Another for the POTA Locations file.
Group: pota Message: 47658 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rosenman talks 'Beneath'
Group: pota Message: 47659 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: two POTA themed episodes of MONSTERAMA?
Group: pota Message: 47660 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Location report - Malibu Creek State Park
Group: pota Message: 47661 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
Group: pota Message: 47662 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Ever see one of these before?
Group: pota Message: 47663 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: AMC
Group: pota Message: 47664 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Life-Size Cornelius Pin-Up
Group: pota Message: 47665 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: 35 years ago today....
Group: pota Message: 47666 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
Group: pota Message: 47667 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Lake Powell Locations
Group: pota Message: 47668 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Posted Pics
Group: pota Message: 47669 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: A great planet of the apes review
Group: pota Message: 47670 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: AMC
Group: pota Message: 47671 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes Commercial for Sideshow. Vote for POTA and fi
Group: pota Message: 47672 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Location report - Malibu Creek State Park
Group: pota Message: 47673 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: BENEATH observations
Group: pota Message: 47674 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: SOLD!
Group: pota Message: 47675 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: The Venture Brothers
Group: pota Message: 47676 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4091
Group: pota Message: 47677 From: Jeff Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
Group: pota Message: 47678 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: SOLD!
Group: pota Message: 47679 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS, YET....
Group: pota Message: 47680 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Ever see one of these before?
Group: pota Message: 47681 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: BENEATH observations
Group: pota Message: 47682 From: Rich Handley Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4109
Group: pota Message: 47683 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4091
Group: pota Message: 47684 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
Group: pota Message: 47685 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70's
Group: pota Message: 47686 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) New book of interest
Group: pota Message: 47687 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: RORY: about the upcoming BLUE RAY edition/POTA DVD "errors" to f
Group: pota Message: 47688 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: The Venture Brothers
Group: pota Message: 47689 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4091
Group: pota Message: 47690 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4091
Group: pota Message: 47691 From: Colleen Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: HELLO.....
Group: pota Message: 47692 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: BENEATH observation
Group: pota Message: 47693 From: grotowski666 Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: POTA Covers blog
Group: pota Message: 47694 From: scott bosco Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: Posted Pics
Group: pota Message: 47695 From: brendan486 Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: The Venture Brothers
Group: pota Message: 47696 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4091
Group: pota Message: 47697 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
Group: pota Message: 47698 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: HELLO.....
Group: pota Message: 47699 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: POTA on screen in ANN ARBOR, MICHIGAN!
Group: pota Message: 47700 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4091
Group: pota Message: 47701 From: Jeff Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: HELLO.....
Group: pota Message: 47702 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Cornelius Paper Model
Group: pota Message: 47703 From: Jeff Date: 7/20/2008
Subject: Re: Cornelius Paper Model
Group: pota Message: 47704 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Re: BENEATH observation
Group: pota Message: 47705 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Re: Posted Pics
Group: pota Message: 47706 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Re: The Venture Brothers
Group: pota Message: 47707 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4091
Group: pota Message: 47708 From: brendan486 Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Budgie Bandolier
Group: pota Message: 47709 From: James Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Links
Group: pota Message: 47710 From: James Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Re: Cornelius Paper Model
Group: pota Message: 47711 From: James Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
Group: pota Message: 47712 From: James Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Covers blog
Group: pota Message: 47713 From: James Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Re: HELLO.....
Group: pota Message: 47714 From: Tim Durham Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Re: MONSTERAMA: PLANET OF THE APES COLLECTIBLES/ APEMANIA, 7/18/20..
Group: pota Message: 47715 From: Rich Handley Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4112
Group: pota Message: 47716 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: Beautiful Planet of the Apes Poster, Giclee print
Group: pota Message: 47717 From: Jeff Date: 7/21/2008
Subject: comic con
Group: pota Message: 47718 From: jose ramon Date: 7/22/2008
Subject: Re: comic con
Group: pota Message: 47719 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/22/2008
Subject: OT- comic con request
Group: pota Message: 47720 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/22/2008
Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
Group: pota Message: 47721 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/22/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
Group: pota Message: 47722 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2008
Subject: Re: Lake Powell Locations
Group: pota Message: 47723 From: lordtzer0 Date: 7/22/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4112
Group: pota Message: 47724 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/22/2008
Subject: Re: HELLO.....
Group: pota Message: 47725 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/22/2008
Subject: Re: comic con
Group: pota Message: 47726 From: m c Date: 7/22/2008
Subject: Re: BENEATH observation
Group: pota Message: 47727 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2008
Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
Group: pota Message: 47728 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/23/2008
Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
Group: pota Message: 47729 From: Meg Griffin Date: 7/23/2008
Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
Group: pota Message: 47730 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/23/2008
Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
Group: pota Message: 47731 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/23/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 47732 From: majinkoenma Date: 7/24/2008
Subject: Battle/Lawgiver theory, what do you all think?
Group: pota Message: 47733 From: majinkoenma Date: 7/24/2008
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 47734 From: Robert Mansell Date: 7/24/2008
Subject: Re: FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS, YET....
Group: pota Message: 47735 From: scott bosco Date: 7/24/2008
Subject: Re: Battle/Lawgiver theory, what do you all think?
Group: pota Message: 47736 From: Stuart Drucker Date: 7/24/2008
Subject: Re: Battle/Lawgiver theory, what do you all think?
Group: pota Message: 47737 From: Rich Handley Date: 7/24/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4115
Group: pota Message: 47738 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/24/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
Group: pota Message: 47739 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/24/2008
Subject: Re: BENEATH observation



Group: pota Message: 47640 From: James Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: MONSTERAMA: PLANET OF THE APES COLLECTIBLES/ APEMANIA, 7/18/2008
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Monsterama is a show on the Monsters HD channel. Yesterday's episode featured POTA collectibles as well as the Apemania group.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> Forgive my ignorance but whar is Monsterama and what has it to do with POTA?
>
> John
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 47641 From: James Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
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Those are great Jeff. Thanks for sharing.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings, everyone. Several months ago I became friendly with an
> artist known as "The Professor" who creates papercraft models and posts
> them online for free download. He designed a bunch of the characters
> from Star Trek that I thought were really cool. I contacted him and
> suggested that he create some Planet of the Apes characters. He liked
> the idea and said he would work on it. Well, he came through and
> posted his creations this week on his website. All I can say is THEY
> ARE FANTASTIC!!!! I have included the link to his page. If you go
> there and download them, please go to the e-mail link at the bottom of
> the page and drop him a note telling him what you think. He told me
> that the kind words about his work make all the effort worthwhile.
> Believe me, you won't be sorry to get these! Enjoy!
>
> http://www.professorplastik.com/monster_site/proscenium/kits/xtrakits/paperkits/page_gohako_apes.htm
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>

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Group: pota Message: 47642 From: Rich Handley Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4108
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At 10:43 AM 7/19/2008, you wrote:
>Posted by: "pota@yahoogroups.com" pota@yahoogroups.com
>MONSTERAMA: PLANET OF THE APES COLLECTIBLES/ APEMANIA

Hey, this sounds cool--thanks for the reminder. I'll have to
remember to DVR this.

>Posted by: "zasco1957" Zasco1957@... soulfulguy1151
>Bruce, I believe so. I was reading the superb Hasslein's Curve timeline and
>saw where Dr. Zaius indeed had him "terminated" after his lobotomy and had
>him stuffed.

As the geek behind that timeline, Zach, I thank you for the kind
words. :) Now if my book version of the Hasslein Curve ever
actually hits stores.....<sigh>

>Posted by: "zasco1957" Zasco1957@... soulfulguy1151
>Congratulations, Brian, on a job well done!

Agreed--great work, Brian!
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Group: pota Message: 47643 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: 35 years ago today....
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(one of my guilty pleasure faves since Shelley Winters dies in it) was a little disconcerting for I was so used to seeing his soulful eyes in chimp makeup, but that voice soothed me quickly.
Meg

Somebody got something against Shelley Winters? She was one of the best things in LOLITA.

-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 47644 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Pictures in posts...
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The moderators have been doing our best is intercepting attachments and uploading them to either the Files or Photos Section or the Group Website.

I depend on you moderators to do that -- so keep doing that!

-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 47645 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: Lake Powell Locations
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On Jul 15, 2008, at 6:48:03 PM, 0 <vscimone@excite. com> wrote:
Also, anyone know if everyone has ever taken a dive looking for the
blown windscreen which must have sunk to the bottom?

Doubt it's there.
They're usually pretty good about those things,
though in the late 60s they may not have been
as eco-conscience.
If it is there -- and didn't both windows blow off? --, it's covered under forty years of silt!

They'll be dug up in two thousands years by some chimp!

-- Rory





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Group: pota Message: 47646 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: BENEATH observation
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McDowall over playing, as usual with as much depth as a kids pool.
McDowall was one of those kind of actors that needed a good director -- which explains why he's so good in PLANET, ESCAPE and CONQUEST, but oh God! Get the hose out for him sometimes on the TV show.

-- Rory


-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 4:47 am
Subject: Re: [pota] BENEATH observation

In a message dated 7/16/2008 4:33:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:
In POTA we only see Dodge stuffed; Landon, though lobotomized, is still very much alive. Does this mean that Zaius and the simian scientists murdered Landon as well and had him stuffed between films?
I don't know, but I'm watching it again on AMC right now and Chu ck battles magnificently for his melon. Though I guess he didn't know that until the Trial. So technically he was battling for his nuts, but kicking gorilla ass all over the place. All three bits of anatomy worth fighting for.. Zira would have been proud!
Speaking of Zira, I just watched an epi of Mission Impossible and McDowall was the bad guy. Jim's cover name was, coincidentally, Hunter. McDowall over playing, as usual with as much depth as a kids pool.




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Group: pota Message: 47647 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in SEATTLE tonight and this weekend!!!
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In Cinemascope

PANAVISION!!!!!

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; POTA DG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 6:02 pm
Subject: [pota] POTA on screen in SEATTLE tonight and this weekend!!!

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> Dir: Franklin J. Schaffner
> 1968 / Color / 112 min. / Cinemascope

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Group: pota Message: 47648 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
Subject: Revised "Overlook"
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Attachments :
    I've changed my Photoshop "thingie" on the Overlook location. Thanks for whoever posted the image from the film.

    -- Rory
    ----------MB_8CAB7EDD8BB4A66_FB0_44F6_Webmail-mg14.sim.aol.com--
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    Group: pota Message: 47649 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
    Subject: (OT) New book of interest
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    Although he has only a bit part in POTA, I'll bet this book by Jerry Maren is pretty interesting.

    http://www.amazon.com/Short-Sweet-Times-Lollipop-Munchkin/dp/1581825439/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216496585&sr=1-1

    -- Rory
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    Group: pota Message: 47650 From: zasco1957 Date: 7/19/2008
    Subject: Re: Digest Number 4108
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      You're welcome.  Personally, if The Hasslein Curve was in stores, it'd be a huge seller, as far as I'm concerned.
       
      Zach   
       
      -------Original Message-------
       
      Date: 7/19/2008 12:12:52 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Digest Number 4108
       

      At 10:43 AM 7/19/2008, you wrote:

      >Posted by: "pota@yahoogroups. com" pota@yahoogroups. com
      >MONSTERAMA: PLANET OF THE APES COLLECTIBLES/ APEMANIA

      Hey, this sounds cool--thanks for the reminder. I'll have to
      remember to DVR this.

      >Posted by: "zasco1957" Zasco1957@aol. com soulfulguy1151
      >Bruce, I believe so. I was reading the superb Hasslein's Curve timeline and
      >saw where Dr. Zaius indeed had him "terminated" after his lobotomy and had
      >him stuffed.

      As the geek behind that timeline, Zach, I thank you for the kind
      words. :) Now if my book version of the Hasslein Curve ever
      actually hits stores.....< sigh>

      >Posted by: "zasco1957" Zasco1957@aol. com soulfulguy1151
      >Congratulations, Brian, on a job well done!

      Agreed--great work, Brian!

       
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      Group: pota Message: 47651 From: apecalypsenow Date: 7/19/2008
      Subject: RORY: about the upcoming BLUE RAY edition/POTA DVD "errors" to fix
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      Hey Rory,

      Since you (and James and someone else) spotted some errors in the DVD
      transfer of POTA'68, why don't you write a letter and/or start a
      petition in order to get those "mistakes" fixed BEFORE they make the
      BLUE RAY? Before it's too late...

      In order to get a better treatment...
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      Group: pota Message: 47652 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
      Subject: Re: RORY: about the upcoming BLUE RAY edition/POTA DVD "errors" to f
      .html
      Hey Rory,

      Since you (and James and someone else) spotted some errors in the DVD
      transfer of POTA'68, why don't you write a letter and/or start a
      petition in order to get those "mistakes" fixed BEFORE they make the
      BLUE RAY? Before it's too late...

      In order to get a better treatment...
      Hey You!

      Because from what I've been told, PLANET is already done.

      I'll never say that I'm sure this is what we're going to get, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed: A few years ago an archival restoration was done on PLANET. Someone who posted in this group either saw a showing of it, as a "work in progress," or reported on the showing of it at the George Eastman House in Rochester, NY. At that time the man in charge of film restoration at Fox, Shawn Belston, said that a couple of reels of the original negative were missing (scenes of the escape from Ape City and at the gorge)! Anyway, I assumed this restoration was being done for two reasons: in preparation for high definition video and to provide the best possible print to the Library of Congress -- since the movie made the "National Registry" list a few years ago.

      Now, is this what's being shown on Monsters HD? Got me, I can't see it, but I hope that what w e'll get on Blu-ray will be an actual film restoration of PLANET and not one that's merely from the digital realm, which is what we now have on 35th Anniversary DVD. Will the sequels hopefully get the same treatment? Got me. What did you think of the transfers in the Legacy set? Pretty good for the most part, but BENEATH looked too bright.

      Keep your fingers crossed. In the meantime, with this thing supposedly coming out in either late October or November, and Fox putting a rush on the creation of the extras, I expect it's too late to write letters now. Luckily, plenty of letters have been sent in the past. I think those at Fox have a pretty good idea of what the fans expect and desire, though that doesn't mean they can or will deliver, and we can do little more now than wait and see.

      -- Rory





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      Group: pota Message: 47653 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/19/2008
      Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
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      Yes. Thanks for incouraging him to create these.

      I have another set that was on a website years ago of a slightly larger
      cornelius. But not a whole set like these. Very cool.

      A tip to first time builders: If at all possible, get some thicker paper
      to print them on. It make building them easier and they are more durable
      when you're done. But be carefull as well as some printers just can't
      handle the very thick paper.

      Dario

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: James <JamesA1102@...>
      Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:43 am
      Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures

      >
      > Those are great Jeff. Thanks for sharing.
      >
      >
      > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Greetings, everyone. Several months ago I became friendly with an
      > > artist known as "The Professor" who creates papercraft models and
      > posts
      > > them online for free download. He designed a bunch of the characters
      > > from Star Trek that I thought were really cool. I contacted him and
      > > suggested that he create some Planet of the Apes characters. He
      > liked> the idea and said he would work on it. Well, he came through
      > and> posted his creations this week on his website. All I can say
      > is THEY
      > > ARE FANTASTIC!!!! I have included the link to his page. If you go
      > > there and download them, please go to the e-mail link at the
      > bottom of
      > > the page and drop him a note telling him what you think. He told me
      > > that the kind words about his work make all the effort worthwhile.
      > > Believe me, you won't be sorry to get these! Enjoy!
      > >
      > >
      > http://www.professorplastik.com/monster_site/proscenium/kits/xtrakits/pa\
      > perkits/page_gohako_apes.htm
      > >
      > > Jeff (RedSpy)
      > >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 47654 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
      Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
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      Thanks for the link Jeff.
       
      A minor correction for the site: in the photo for Taylor, it says "OK, we're here for good". It's actually "OK, we're here to stay."
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      >>Greetings, everyone. Several months ago I became friendly with an
      artist known as "The Professor" who creates papercraft models and posts
      them online for free download. He designed a bunch of the characters
      from Star Trek that I thought were really cool. I contacted him and
      suggested that he create some Planet of the Apes characters. He liked
      the idea and said he would work on it. Well, he came through and
      posted his creations this week on his website. All I can say is THEY
      ARE FANTASTIC!!! ! I have included the link to his page. If you go
      there and download them, please go to the e-mail link at the bottom of
      the page and drop him a note telling him what you think. He told me
      that the kind words about his work make all the effort worthwhile.
      Believe me, you won't be sorry to get these! Enjoy!

      http://www.professo rplastik. com/monster_ site/proscenium/ kits/xtrakits/ paperkits/ page_gohako_ apes.htm <<<.html

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      "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
       
      >>That is true, M.C. Brent was not advanced enough. As I recall from
      the
      novel, it was Albina that "asked" Brent to please remove his mask. <<
       
      It was also her in the Marvel adaptation.
       
       
      "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
       
      >>I always thought that that was like old World War II movies where
      the
      Germans or Japanese would speak their native language the first few
      scenes then switch to english for the rest of the film. <<
       
      >>I'm sorry I meant that is was a dramatic device. Just as in those
      old
      war movies the Germans weren't really supposed to be speaking english.
      They are just shown to be speaking english for the sake of the audience.
      One of the Star Trek movies did this too. Kirk is put on trial by the
      Klingons and the Klingon prosecutor begins speaking Klingon but then
      switches over to english. Kirk is shown still holding the translator to
      his ear which suggests that the prosecutor is still speaking in Klingon
      but the audience is hearing it in english. The same could be true of the
      mutants. They are really communicating telepathically but they they are
      shown speaking for the audiences sake. <<
       
       
      You know what supports this? At the beginning of that scene, the shot is of the Mutants seen from the back, standing still, and no indication that they're actually speaking in the traditional sense.
       
       
      Chris L.
       

       
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      Agreed. Talk about being greedy...   It's goes from a 99 cent bid to over $4000 and that's still not enough? It's not like there's that many Apes collectors out there with that kind of free spending money.
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
       
      >>I think he should have settled for the four grand!
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      I also had presumed that was an SFX shot, and now that I think about it, it was because of that magazine article. I wonder what other (mis)information made it's way into the Marvel B&W mags? I remember that one of the article writers seemed to have a vendetta against BENEATH, and made a point of trashing it a couple of times.
       
       
      Chris  L.
       
       
       
      "Mike M" <mmuse@...> wrote:
       
      >>I can understand why you would think that, the way that shot was
      made, you never see that you can easily walk around this indentation
      in the cliff face. I visited this overlook about five years ago and
      you realize it once you see the actual layout. There was an article
      in the Marvel POTA magazine about the special effects used in PLANET
      and the author used this exact scene as a example of a special
      effects shot! Obviously, he didn't kmow, either. <<<.html

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      Group: pota Message: 47658 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      Interesting article Dave, thanks for the link. I wonder if the next pat
      will mention BATTLE at all?

      Chris L.
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      Group: pota Message: 47659 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      Looks like there's two episodes that need to be recorded:
       
      >>Monsters HD’s monkey business continues with a look at the PLANET
      OF THE APES franchise with two episodes from in its original series MONSTERAMA. (Friday, July 18th at 2:30PM) <<
       
       
       
      Chris L.
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      So then the cave entrance should be in the same general vicinity. I think all you'd have to do is look for the rock formations seen in the film.
       
      The road where Brent and the gorilla are fighting on the wagon (and the branch that knocked the gorilla off) can be seen on a You Tube video. Of course, I can't find it just now. There's even a part that shows the branch was cut off as I recall. Anyone else see this and/or have it saved in their favorites?
       
      Speaking of caves, was that an actual cave at the end of PLANET (filmed at Point Dume) or just wooden scaffolding built up to a fake entrance?
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
       
      >>Yes, it is, but exactly where remains a mystery.  I'm also not
      sure where the location is where Brent stops the wagon and unbridles the horses for just Nova and himself.  I don't think it's Malibu Creek, so therefore either Vasques Rocks or Red Rock Canyon (I suspect Red Rock).

      Oh, one other thing I wanted to say was that the scenes where Brent and Nova are being chased on horseback by the gorilla troupe (just before they find the cave), those shots with them riding along the tree line are on the same field that was the cornfield in PLANET and the "mowed" field the mutant army crosses to battle the apes in BATTLE. <<<.html

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      Group: pota Message: 47661 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
       
      >>Anyone pick up The Batman (66) Blu-Ray release today? I'm wondering
      if they fixed the framing on the final scene, when the UN reps start
      talking in different languages, their respective nameplates weren't
      visible, they were matted over. <<
       
       
      "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
       
      >>Well the end gag is blown in the previous version, if you're
      not
      familiar with the film. If they corrected the framing, and the score
      is isolated, I think it is worth it. <<
       
       
      Wow- I hadn't realized that mistake was there. That's a massive, massive screw-up on par with the Playhouse Video version of BENEATH with the sounds of the Lawgiver stature falling/exploding happening AFTER the illusion had disappeared.
       
      Gotta love that Fox QC...
       
       
      Chris L.
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      "stenosaurus@..." <stenosaurus@...> wrote:
       
      >>I love the little Statue of Liberty on the card! <<
       
      That's pretty neat packaging actually!
       
       
       
      "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
       
      >>Yeah, there's nothing like spoiling the ending of a cinematic
      classic! <<
       
      Being that the audience for the Apes merchandise was mainly children, I would imagine that most of them had already seen the film and knew the ending.
       
       
      Chris L.
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      Group: pota Message: 47663 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      They made some unnecessary trims in BATTLE too, including the trek across the desert.
       
      Oddly enough, I remember reading an article about AMC about a year after they made their format change, and it said that the ratings had actually gone up since they started breaking up the films and showing commercials. That made no sense to me, but there you go. However, they do run 'Mad Men' and 'Breaking Bad', plus the Apes films, so they've got something going for them.
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "S. Miller" <masonverger12@...> wrote:
       
      >>OK, is it just me or does anyone else get upset when AMC who
      graciously
      runs our favorite films, decides to 'trim' them for their time slots?
      Unless I am mistaken, when Caesar goes into Ape Management some of the
      training sequences (the club, flamethrower) were all cut out!! Am I
      right or wrong? It's such a short movie, why bother? If the bomb
      hadn't killed the old governor then this might have! I remember in 98
      when they ran them all weekend in letterbox, uncut, and Kim Hunter was
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      Group: pota Message: 47664 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      I wonder what- if any- response- you'd get if you wrote to that address
      today?


      Chris L.
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      Lucky bastard.  ;-)

      Chris L.

       

      "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

      >>The next morning I ran to get the newspaper (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/BattleAd.jpg) see the ad for the film and found out there was a second feature playing with Battle, the original 'Planet of the Apes' (which I had only seen once back in 1968). WOW, two Apes of the price of one. I was in POTA heaven.

      About 2 weeks later the theater did a marathon of all the films and I got to see them all yet again. But today is a very special memory for me and just wanted to share it with everyone. <<

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      Group: pota Message: 47666 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      Is anyone on the list planning on attending?
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
       
      >>Digital Bits is reporting that the POTA Blu-Ray set will be
      announced/discussed at SDCC this month.

      http://www.thedigit albits.com/ rumormill..html070908 <<<.html

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      Group: pota Message: 47667 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      Absolutely, and now I see what you referring to about the Ape Council being in proximity to where the outdoor cage was.
       
      BTW, where you wrote "Where gorillas chase Brent and Nova in Beneath", did you mean the first or second time?
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
       
      >>Hope what I've done here is of interest.
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      Group: pota Message: 47668 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      Thanks Scott!! I especially enjoyed the BENEATH behind the scenes shots. In particular, where Ted Post is trying to show James Franciscus what his facial reaction should be when the Mutants remove their masks.
       
      Occasionally, I've know people to get unique items like these (in particular, lots of behind the scenes photos from BENEATH) and then flat out refuse to share them with other fans because of a "mine, mine, mine" mentality. A complete dick move in my opinion. I've spent lots of money on the items I've contributed to the online POTA community (all of which are on Hunter's site), and my first thought when I receive them is to get the images posted online (which either Hunter or Greg P. always help out with).
       
      Any others from BENEATH?
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "digitalcinema" <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
       
      >>I finally got around to scan and post a few behind the scenes pics
      from
      my collection - since there's been a bit about the Ape City and other
      locals posted I stuck to that theme.
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      Group: pota Message: 47669 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      I took it to refer to the mass merchandising of POTA in the early-to-mid 70's. There had been merchandising before (Disney is a prime example), but nothing to the extent that was does with Apes.
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
       
      >>Nice, but there's a number of mis-statements in the thing, and this
      bothers me:

      "Not only was the film significant from a financial perspective (it was a smash hit when released), but it arguably became the first box office titan to spawn a multimillion dollar advertising explosion into movie related merchandise (a trend that people ignorantly and wrongly believe that Lucas started nine years later with his space fantasy)."

      Well, I can argue with that.... Doesn't anyone remember that the James Bond films, I think starting with GOLDFINGER or THUNDERBALL in '64 and '65, had huge marketing campaigns, or what about Disney's DAVEY CROCKET in the '50s and HOPPALONG CASSIDY before that, or maybe even TARZAN in the thirties?  And lest we not forget that in was the failure of Arthur Jabobs's own DR. DOLITTLE that killed any kind of promotional marketing for PLANET in '68, and all it's sequels beyond.  It wasn't until the big ratings the movies got when first shown on TV that Fox finally decided on a campaign for APES. <<<.html

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      Group: pota Message: 47670 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      "m c" <aboro3085@...> wrote:
       
      >>They sold out to "the man" just like most of the other niche
      networks... TV Land, Sci-Fi, MTV and the list goes on and on... They start with good intentions and then start either showing reality shows up the a** or they show programming that is anything but what they originally aired (and which fit with their network's name.) And in a lot of cases, it's reality shows and non niche programs... <<
       
      That's one of the things I like about the American Life TV Network. It's run at a loss, so they program whatever they want to, they don't edited the episodes, and they run the full end credits without any fold overs, voice overs, coming next promos, etc.
       
       
      "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
       
      >>Didn't A&E go from quality dramatic televison and documentaries
      to Top Model type shows? >>
       
      And ruining classic Science Fiction films like The Andromeda Strain.
       
       
      Chris L.
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      Group: pota Message: 47671 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      Weird to see the detonation button for the Alpha Omega bomb right on the
      podium.

      BTW, the video is currently winning by 42 votes. So if you haven't done
      so already, go there and vote.


      Chris L.
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      Group: pota Message: 47672 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
       
      >>Do you know the exact spot in Red Rock Canyon used in Beneath? I'm
      assuming this is where the troops saw the bleeding Lawgiver...?
      and is it also where Brent and Nova go in the cave? <<
       
      I always figured the cave entrance was filmed somewhere in Malibu Creek State Park. There's a behind the scenes photo of James Franciscus standing near the entrance up on eBay now (Item number 130193071050), and it looks like it's an actual location instead of a mock up.
       
      BTW, my offer of a steak dinner for whoever finds the actual location of said cave (and takes some photos) is still valid.
       
       
       
      "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
       
      >>The "Planet of the Apes Wall" is a large rock wall used for rock
      climbing.  I guess the climbers named it that since the cage area was located at the top of the rocks and the Rock Pool is so near.  I don´t think the wall itself was shown in POTA.

      The "Wall" is a large oblong rock that juts out from the hillside atop which the old Crag's Country Club Lodge stood in the 1920's, 30's and 40's.  The outdoor cage in PLANET was built atop the foundation for the lodge, which Fox tore down in either the late 40's or early 50's.  The small "Ape House" structure you see in PLANET when you first see Cornelius, and late the structure that Taylor, Nova and Lucius exit when they make their escape, was built against the part of the "Wall" that runs into the hillside.

      In BATTLE you see the "Wall" from the other side when the apes have their council meetings.

      I hope this is clear to everyone. <<
       
       
      I'm having a hard time picturing both. Maybe a couple of screen grabs from PLANET and BATTLE are in order?
       
       
      Chris L.
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      Group: pota Message: 47673 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      Though never officially explained, that's a pretty good interpretation of events. I believe it was also referred to in one of the early drafts of the ESCAPE script (which the Marvel adaptation was based on). Something about the fact that one of the stuffed astronauts had black skin, which the apes had never seen before.
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "stenosaurus@..." <stenosaurus@...> wrote:
       
      >>Just watching BPOTA on AMC and Cornelius and Zira talk about
      Taylor's 2
      "friends", both stuffed and in the Ape Museum. In POTA we only see Dodge stuffed;
      Landon, though lobotomized, is still very much alive. Does this mean that
      Zaius and the simian scientists murdered Landon as well and had him stuffed
      between films? <<
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      Group: pota Message: 47674 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      I just get a 'Document Not Found' message. Is it in the Files section?
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
       
      >>Look what I found in our files, fellow ape fans:

      http://f1.grp. yahoofs.com/ v1/8Ct9SN5HTdgGV qFqNxcOc49iNJgUz VsYRoaXoPzN32l5z URZzP1ip_ N_sppzIH9cx1r7Ac MTCmadDzgMUTgKu_ gBvofPN16U30s/ Lobby%20Displays /banner%26stande e.jpg <<<.html

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      Group: pota Message: 47675 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      Glad you had a good time. I noticed that a lot of people had Adult Swim shirts on, and I have to admit that I joined in the foray as well. I picked up a few Mooninite shirts poking fun at Boston for their overreaction in thinking that Lite Brites were actually terrorist placed C4 explosives, so I wore one of those since I was only about a half hour away from Beantown. It's just a picture of Ignignokt (flipping the bird) with the word terrorist printed underneath. I get a lot of compliments about that one as well.
       
      I was always gratified to be able to say that I watched Home Movies during it's initial run on UPN back in 1999, two years before everyone else discovered it on Adult Swim. You could always tell that Brendon Small was a very talented person, and if you step back a bit you can see certain similarities between Home Movies and Metalocalypse in terms of how the characters are presented. And even though "Don't Put Marbles In Your Nose" was a Scäb song, you could easily see Dethklok performing it as well.
       
       
      I actually listen to a lot of metal, but at the same time I'm selective about which bands I follow. I also get strange looks when I tell people that I like certain metal bands for the lyrics.  :-)   I enjoy the music as well mind you, but that's not the only appeal like it is for some.
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "LordTZer0@..." <LordTZer0@...> wrote:
       
      >>I thought it ROCKED!
      I've never been a big fan of Metal.
      but there's no faulting the musicianship
      of Dethklok. Absolutely amazing. I understand
      Brandon Small was a graduate of the Berklee College
      of Music before going into comedy. It certainly shows
      in the music. This is not the average dumbed down, head
      banging rubbish usually associate with the Metal genre.
      It's as thoughtful and thought provoking as his comedy is.
      It's hard to believe this is the same guy from Home Movies.
      I wore my Venture Bros. T-Shirt to the show. It was a big
      hit with the crowd. But of course - they were Adult Swim Fans. <<
       
       
      I wrote:
       
      >>I saw Dethklok last Tuesday in Worcester.
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      Group: pota Message: 47676 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/19/2008
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      "lordtzer0" <LordTZer0@...> wrote:
       
      >>I am ,of course referring  to the secret agent in The
      Venture Bros. based
      on Hunter S. Thompson, and not Kim Hunter or the Hunter in the group. <<
       
       
      Geez, are we the only two people here that watch The Venture Brothers?   :-)
       
       
      Chris L.
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      Group: pota Message: 47677 From: Jeff Date: 7/19/2008
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      Dario, please either e-mail your set to me or post it for the entire
      group. I would love to see them!

      Jeff (RedSpy)


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
      >
      > Yes. Thanks for incouraging him to create these.
      >
      > I have another set that was on a website years ago of a slightly
      larger
      > cornelius. But not a whole set like these. Very cool.
      >
      > A tip to first time builders: If at all possible, get some thicker
      paper
      > to print them on. It make building them easier and they are more
      durable
      > when you're done. But be carefull as well as some printers just
      can't
      > handle the very thick paper.
      >
      > Dario
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: James <JamesA1102@...>
      > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:43 am
      > Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
      >
      > >
      > > Those are great Jeff. Thanks for sharing.
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Greetings, everyone. Several months ago I became friendly with
      an
      > > > artist known as "The Professor" who creates papercraft models
      and
      > > posts
      > > > them online for free download. He designed a bunch of the
      characters
      > > > from Star Trek that I thought were really cool. I contacted him
      and
      > > > suggested that he create some Planet of the Apes characters. He
      > > liked> the idea and said he would work on it. Well, he came
      through
      > > and> posted his creations this week on his website. All I can say
      > > is THEY
      > > > ARE FANTASTIC!!!! I have included the link to his page. If you
      go
      > > > there and download them, please go to the e-mail link at the
      > > bottom of
      > > > the page and drop him a note telling him what you think. He
      told me
      > > > that the kind words about his work make all the effort
      worthwhile.
      > > > Believe me, you won't be sorry to get these! Enjoy!
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      http://www.professorplastik.com/monster_site/proscenium/kits/xtrakits/
      pa\
      > > perkits/page_gohako_apes.htm
      > > >
      > > > Jeff (RedSpy)
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 47678 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/19/2008
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      It's in the files section, under lobby displays, under a file entitled banner26standee.jpg.
       
      I have attached it to this e-mail, too:
       
      On 7/19/08, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

      I just get a 'Document Not Found' message. Is it in the Files section?
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
       


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      Group: pota Message: 47679 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
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      He hasn' t re-listed it yet. I wonder if he sold it to the highest bidder "off eBay" or kept it? 
       
      Bruce
       
       
      In a message dated 7/19/2008 8:00:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:

      Agreed. Talk about being greedy...   It's goes from a 99 cent bid to over $4000 and that's still not enough? It's not like there's that many Apes collectors out there with that kind of free spending money.
       
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      Group: pota Message: 47680 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
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      I think it was the 1968 Polish POTA movie poster that had the Statue of Liberty on it!
       
      Bruce
       
      In a message dated 7/19/2008 8:01:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:
      "stenosaurus@ aol.com" <stenosaurus@ aol.com> wrote:
       
      >>I love the little Statue of Liberty on the card! <<
       
      That's pretty neat packaging actually!
       
       
       
      "Haristas@aol. com" <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:
       
      >>Yeah, there's nothing like spoiling the ending of a cinematic classic! <<
       
      Being that the audience for the Apes merchandise was mainly children, I would imagine that most of them had already seen the film and knew the ending.
       
       
      Chris L.





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      Group: pota Message: 47681 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2008
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      I guess. I just wonder why, after they silenced the poor bastard already by cutting up his brain they had him killed & stuffed as well.
       
      Bruce
       
      In a message dated 7/19/2008 8:03:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:

      Though never officially explained, that's a pretty good interpretation of events. I believe it was also referred to in one of the early drafts of the ESCAPE script (which the Marvel adaptation was based on). Something about the fact that one of the stuffed astronauts had black skin, which the apes had never seen before.
       
       
      Chris L.




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      >Posted by: "zasco1957" Zasco1957@... soulfulguy1151
      >You're welcome. Personally, if The Hasslein Curve was in stores, it'd be a
      >huge seller, as far as I'm concerned.

      Thanks, man! I don't know what the hold-up is, but as soon as I have
      any news to report, this group will be among the first to know.
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      Group: pota Message: 47683 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/20/2008
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      I watch the Venture Bros, so you're not the only ones.


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 4:16 pm
      Subject: [pota] Re: Digest Number 4091

      "lordtzer0" <LordTZer0@AOL. com> wrote:
       
      >>I am ,of course referring  to the secret agent in The
      Venture Bros. based
      on Hunter S. Thompson, and not Kim Hunter or the Hunter in the group. <<
       
       
      Geez, are we the only two people here that watch The Venture Brothers?   :-)
       
       
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      Group: pota Message: 47684 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/20/2008
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      I will be at SDCC this month. So I will be attending


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 4:39 pm
      Subject: [pota] Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?

      Is anyone on the list planning on attending?
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "drhasslein" <drhasslein@yahoo. com> wrote:
       
      >>Digital Bits is reporting that the POTA Blu-Ray set will be
      announced/discussed at SDCC this month.

      http://www.thedigit albits.com/ rumormill..html070908 <<


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      Group: pota Message: 47685 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/20/2008
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      The WOR 4 O'Clock Movie:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6x8UKU25zM


      Oceans 13 opening titles:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWx-6QztSTw


      Now, there's in jokes and then there's **in** jokes. It's really kind of
      cool that Soderbergh did that though.
      And if the music has put you in a nostalgic mood, here's a cool tribute
      to the WPIX, WOR, and WNEW movie intros from back in the day:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AHVY8SPhA8


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      Group: pota Message: 47686 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/20/2008
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      In a message dated 7/19/2008 3:32:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
      Although he has only a bit part in POTA, I'll bet this book by Jerry Maren is pretty interesting.
       
      Speaking of Jerry's bit parts as POTA "kids"
      I cannot for the life of me find the widow in
      the Funeral scene.  There are a two or three 
      chimpettes with the purple mourning throw
      on's, but if she is in there, she bailed early
      in the scene as the camera panned the shot.
      I know there's a still of her being made up,
      but they didn't make good use of her, if she
      was used in the scene at all, I can't find her.
       
       
       




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      Group: pota Message: 47687 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/20/2008
      Subject: Re: RORY: about the upcoming BLUE RAY edition/POTA DVD "errors" to f
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      In a message dated 7/19/2008 4:31:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, apecalypsenow@... writes:
      get those "mistakes" fixed BEFORE they make the
      BLUE RAY? Before it's too late...
       
      I haven't said this since the days of Cream Music Magazine, but . . .
      Boy Howdy!  I just don't see High Def as that much of an improvement.
      Not nearly the improvement DVD was over VHS.  Oh boy! bow we can
      see bloopers never seen before.  Whoopteedoo!  I get better clarity by
      cleaning my glasses before starting the movie.  I'm not going to shell
      out several hundred bucks, not to mention the cost of new discs, just
      to watch a hummingbird drink from a flower, or see the spots on a
      leopard better.  Okay, the NASA footage from IMAX is cool, and so
      is the guys in Flying Squirrel Suits skimming across mountains,
      But until the price comes down I may as well buy a PS3 or put
      a Blu Ray in my computer. It's cheaper that way. It's not going 
      to make the movies look like they were shot in 3-D or anything.
       




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      Group: pota Message: 47688 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/20/2008
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      In a message dated 7/19/2008 7:04:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:
      I picked up a few Mooninite shirts poking fun at Boston for their overreaction in thinking that Lite Brites were actually terrorist placed C4 explosives
       
       
      Yeah!  At least they had one person hip enough to know what the hell it was.  Maybe we are being governed by a bunch of mindless APES!  On the other hand the GORILLA tactics of the publicity agencies are a bit brainless as well.  Some fool on the publicity team for Batman baked what looked like a bomb inside a cake.  What the hell were they thinking?  I'm not sure they were.  That's why I'm into Punk Rock.  It always seemed more thoughtful than the Headbangers -- even more musical a lot of it.  Thought the ones who were willing to laugh about it and take it way over the top, like the Melvins and Dethklok, had more to offer than typical run-of-the-mill Metal.  But I hate pigeonholes and labels. Then we'd be no better than the apes.
       




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      Group: pota Message: 47689 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/20/2008
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      In a message dated 7/19/2008 7:04:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:
      Geez, are we the only two people here that watch The Venture Brothers?   :-)
       
      If they did I doubt they'd even get the reference to Klaus Nomi.
       




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      Group: pota Message: 47690 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/20/2008
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      In a message dated 7/20/2008 12:20:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, PofTAfan@... writes:
      I watch the Venture Bros, so you're not the only ones.
       
      Good.  I can't wait for another new episode tonight.
      I saw the commercial.  Something to do with fish
      that talked!  Talking animals?  Remind you of anything?
       




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      Group: pota Message: 47691 From: Colleen Date: 7/20/2008
      Subject: HELLO.....
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      HI EVERYONE. I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED POTA, AND WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE
      GROUP SITE. MY NAME IS COLLEEN. HOPE TO MEET ALL OF YOU.
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      Group: pota Message: 47692 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 7/20/2008
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      .html I think McDowall was gulity somtimes of overacting but that was the point really. The apes were cast
      from the stage in the original because of this bigger than life style they had. The actors brought to life the apes buy cranking it up under the make-up. Compare this to the more natural or method actors under the appliances and you see a dead mask ( the guest apes on the TV show spring to mind) but he was capable of great emotional moments in all the ape productions he was involved in.
       
      Having worked both on stage and in TV/film productions as an actor and director, I can appreciate what the difficulties are.  A mask seperates you from reality yet focus's you in on the physical communication and body language of a charactor. It (the mask) both free's you and isolates you
      from your own personality. Put this beside am actor "playing it straight" without the make-up/mask and you get a clash which worked perfectly for the apes and sci-fi/monster movies in general.
       
      In Silence of the Lambs you get a perfect example of a stage trained actor (Anthony Hopkins) and a film or method trained actor (Jodie Foster) working perfectly in sync for the benifit of the production and the audience. I think it was very clever of jacobs and Shaefner to cast as they did.
       
      I do apologise for going on here, but I think POTA and the following films and series were, mostly, great examples of ensemble casting. The style and casting of the movies was variable to say the least.
      I personaly think James Franciscus was "bigger" in style and reaction than Heston and yet Heston is sometimes ridiculed for his performance and yes McDowall could be seen to be "presenting" a charactor rather than "being" a charactor but he still gave a memorable performance in each of his films or TV shows even if he looked like he was tired from the effort of working through the appliances as in Battle for the POTA. 
       
      McDowall was asked back again and again because he could be relied upon to bring an ape charactor to life where others struggled. Virgil and Aldo in Battle both could have given the appliances more movement and Ive already mentioned the guest apes on TV.
       
      McDowall's voice should also be mentioned as a trademark "sound" of the apes. Having the apes talk with English or stage accents was another very clever and subtle alienating effect that Jacobs/Shaefner decided upon.
       
      To me Roddy Mcdowall represented all that was good and great about the apes films and series
      thats not to take anything away from the other great performances and artistry involved both behind and in front of the camera.
       
      Well thats that out of my system!  Long live the apes!
       
      JBK




      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      From: Haristas@...
      Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:49:04 -0400
      Subject: [pota] Re: BENEATH observation



      McDowall over playing, as usual with as much depth as a kids pool.
      McDowall was one of those kind of actors that needed a good director -- which explains why he's so good in PLANET, ESCAPE and CONQUEST, but oh God!  Get the hose out for him sometimes on the TV show.

      -- Rory


      -----Original Message-----
      From: LordTZer0@AOL. com
      To: pota@yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 4:47 am
      Subject: Re: [pota] BENEATH observation

      In a message dated 7/16/2008 4:33:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:
      In POTA we only see Dodge stuffed; Landon, though lobotomized, is still very much alive. Does this mean that Zaius and the simian scientists murdered Landon as well and had him stuffed between films?
       
      I don't know, but I'm watching it again on AMC right now and Chu ck battles magnificently for his melon.  Though I guess he didn't know that until the Trial.  So technically he was battling for his nuts, but kicking gorilla ass all over the place. All three bits of anatomy worth fighting for..  Zira would have been proud!
       
      Speaking of Zira, I just watched an epi of Mission Impossible and McDowall was the bad guy. Jim's cover name was, coincidentally, Hunter.  McDowall over playing, as usual with as much depth as a kids pool.
       




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      Group: pota Message: 47693 From: grotowski666 Date: 7/20/2008
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      Just found this through Windows alerts:

      http://pencilink.blogspot.com/2008/07/adventures-on-planet-of-apes-6-jim.html"

      Interesting for the Graphic fans of POTA
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      Group: pota Message: 47694 From: scott bosco Date: 7/20/2008
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      Chris,
      You very welcome - glad you like the stuff posted.
      ...to answer your question, Yes, I have a bunch more shot from BENEATH.  I just randomly chose what I posted.  The ones from CONQUEST aren't that great, but I posted them because I don't think most have ever seen them.  If you go to my site www.thedigitalcinema.net you will find in the remiews for the POTA films some more - more interesting ones especially from ESCAPE.
       
      Scott B.

      Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
      Thanks Scott!! I especially enjoyed the BENEATH behind the scenes shots. In particular, where Ted Post is trying to show James Franciscus what his facial reaction should be when the Mutants remove their masks.
       
      Occasionally, I've know people to get unique items like these (in particular, lots of behind the scenes photos from BENEATH) and then flat out refuse to share them with other fans because of a "mine, mine, mine" mentality. A complete dick move in my opinion. I've spent lots of money on the items I've contributed to the online POTA community (all of which are on Hunter's site), and my first thought when I receive them is to get the images posted online (which either Hunter or Greg P. always help out with).
       
      Any others from BENEATH?
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "digitalcinema" <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> wrote:
       
      >>I finally got around to scan and post a few behind the scenes pics from
      my collection - since there's been a bit about the Ape City and other
      locals posted I stuck to that theme.
      Hope you like. <<


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      Group: pota Message: 47695 From: brendan486 Date: 7/20/2008
      Subject: Re: The Venture Brothers
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      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
      >
      >
      > In a message dated 7/19/2008 7:04:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
      > lawford42@... writes:
      >
      > I picked up a few Mooninite shirts poking fun at Boston for their
      > overreaction in thinking that Lite Brites were actually terrorist
      placed C4 explosives
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Yeah! At least they had one person hip enough to know what the
      hell it was.
      > Maybe we are being governed by a bunch of mindless APES! On the
      other hand
      > the GORILLA tactics of the publicity agencies are a bit brainless
      as well.
      > Some fool on the publicity team for Batman baked what looked like
      a bomb
      > inside a cake. What the hell were they thinking? I'm not sure
      they were.
      > That's why I'm into Punk Rock. It always seemed more thoughtful
      than the
      > Headbangers -- even more musical a lot of it. Thought the ones
      who were willing to
      > laugh about it and take it way over the top, like the Melvins and
      Dethklok,
      > had more to offer than typical run-of-the-mill Metal. But I hate
      pigeonholes
      > and labels. Then we'd be no better than the apes.


      Taking the above with the plethora of salt one needs, as it is
      pigeonholes that you don't like would it be better to say that we'd
      be no better than pigeons if we liked their holes?
      I think I just confused myself...

      But I wanted to sequay, seque? ( however it's spelt)into the
      connection of Metal and Apes and almost pigeons.
      Does anyone remember the Heavy Metal/Rock group called Budgie (
      1970's) who had an album cover with Apes on Horseback, however, the
      Ape heads were replaced with Budgies. Great album cover. I have no
      idea what the music was like but I always liked the ridiculous
      parady of Budgies on the bodies of Gorillas from Planet Of The Apes.

      Brendan.
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      Group: pota Message: 47696 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/20/2008
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 4091
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      You should have watched Robot Chicken when they did a spoof of "Planet of the Ape".


      -----Original Message-----
      From: LordTZer0@...
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 7:31 am
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Digest Number 4091

      In a message dated 7/20/2008 12:20:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, PofTAfan@aol. com writes:
      I watch the Venture Bros, so you're not the only ones.
       
      Good.  I can't wait for another new episode tonight.
      I saw the commercial.  Something to do with fish
      that talked!  Talking animals?  Remind you of anything?
       




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      Group: pota Message: 47697 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/20/2008
      Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
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      MAJOR nostalgia trip-thanks. I was talking out loud while watching the titles and frightened my cat ("MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE!!! I remember THAT"). 
       
      Bruce
       
      In a message dated 7/20/2008 7:02:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:

      The WOR 4 O'Clock Movie:

      http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=D6x8UKU25zM


      Oceans 13 opening titles:

      http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=IWx-6QztSTw


      Now, there's in jokes and then there's **in** jokes. It's really kind of
      cool that Soderbergh did that though.
      And if the music has put you in a nostalgic mood, here's a cool tribute
      to the WPIX, WOR, and WNEW movie intros from back in the day:

      http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=5AHVY8SPhA8


      Chris L.
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      Group: pota Message: 47698 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2008
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      Welcome Colleen!!

      Tim


      --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Colleen <wvnightangel2004@...> wrote:

      > From: Colleen <wvnightangel2004@...>
      > Subject: [pota] HELLO.....
      > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 7:08 AM
      > HI EVERYONE. I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED POTA, AND WAS REALLY HAPPY
      > TO SEE THE
      > GROUP SITE. MY NAME IS COLLEEN. HOPE TO MEET ALL OF YOU.
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      Group: pota Message: 47699 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2008
      Subject: POTA on screen in ANN ARBOR, MICHIGAN!
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      This Saturday night the 28th at midnight at the State Theatre!

      At the east end of Liberty Street, above Urban Outfitters in downtown Ann Arbor.
      233 State Street
      Ann Arbor, MI 48104

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      Group: pota Message: 47700 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/20/2008
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 4091
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      Anyone have a copy of this? maybe send it to Hunter for Rarities??


      --- On Sun, 7/20/08, PofTAfan@... <PofTAfan@...> wrote:

      > From: PofTAfan@... <PofTAfan@...>
      > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Digest Number 4091
      > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 10:47 AM
      > You should have watched Robot Chicken when they did a spoof
      > of "Planet of the Ape".
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: LordTZer0@...
      > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 7:31 am
      > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Digest Number 4091
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > In a message dated 7/20/2008 12:20:10 A.M. Central Daylight
      > Time,
      > PofTAfan@... writes:
      >
      >
      > I
      > watch the Venture Bros, so you're not the only
      > ones.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > ?
      >
      >
      > Good.? I can't wait for another new episode tonight.
      >
      >
      > I saw the commercial.? Something to do with fish
      >
      >
      > that talked!? Talking animals?? Remind you of anything?
      >
      >
      > ?
      >
      >
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      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 47701 From: Jeff Date: 7/20/2008
      Subject: Re: HELLO.....
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      Greetings and felicitations, Colleen. A big hairy welcome to the group!

      Jeff (RedSpy)

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
      >
      > Welcome Colleen!!
      >
      > Tim
      >
      >
      > --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Colleen <wvnightangel2004@...> wrote:
      >
      > > From: Colleen <wvnightangel2004@...>
      > > Subject: [pota] HELLO.....
      > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 7:08 AM
      > > HI EVERYONE. I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED POTA, AND WAS REALLY HAPPY
      > > TO SEE THE
      > > GROUP SITE. MY NAME IS COLLEEN. HOPE TO MEET ALL OF YOU.
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 47702 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/20/2008
      Subject: Cornelius Paper Model
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      I could not find the original URL so I've uploaded the two PDF files
      (you need both to make one model). You can find them in the
      "PaperCornelius" folder I created in the "Files".

      These are pretty big files, so they should probably not be kept in the
      archives for too long as they do that up a lot of space. So I would
      suggest that those interested download them as soon as possible.

      The website (listed on the PDFs) do have other papercraft projects, so
      visit it to give credit to the creators.

      Dario

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Jeff <RedSpy13@...>
      Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:03 pm
      Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures

      > Dario, please either e-mail your set to me or post it for the
      > entire
      > group. I would love to see them!
      >
      > Jeff (RedSpy)
      >
      >
      > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Yes. Thanks for incouraging him to create these.
      > >
      > > I have another set that was on a website years ago of a slightly
      > larger
      > > cornelius. But not a whole set like these. Very cool.
      > >
      > > A tip to first time builders: If at all possible, get some
      > thicker
      > paper
      > > to print them on. It make building them easier and they are more
      > durable
      > > when you're done. But be carefull as well as some printers just
      > can't
      > > handle the very thick paper.
      > >
      > > Dario
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: James <JamesA1102@...>
      > > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:43 am
      > > Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
      > >
      > > >
      > > > Those are great Jeff. Thanks for sharing.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Greetings, everyone. Several months ago I became friendly
      > with
      > an
      > > > > artist known as "The Professor" who creates papercraft models
      > and
      > > > posts
      > > > > them online for free download. He designed a bunch of the
      > characters
      > > > > from Star Trek that I thought were really cool. I contacted
      > him
      > and
      > > > > suggested that he create some Planet of the Apes characters.
      > He
      > > > liked> the idea and said he would work on it. Well, he came
      > through
      > > > and> posted his creations this week on his website. All I can
      > say
      > > > is THEY
      > > > > ARE FANTASTIC!!!! I have included the link to his page. If
      > you
      > go
      > > > > there and download them, please go to the e-mail link at the
      > > > bottom of
      > > > > the page and drop him a note telling him what you think. He
      > told me
      > > > > that the kind words about his work make all the effort
      > worthwhile.
      > > > > Believe me, you won't be sorry to get these! Enjoy!
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > http://www.professorplastik.com/monster_site/proscenium/kits/xtrakits/
      > pa\
      > > > perkits/page_gohako_apes.htm
      > > > >
      > > > > Jeff (RedSpy)
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      >
      >
      >
      > ------------------------------------
      >
      > Yahoo! Groups Links
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 47703 From: Jeff Date: 7/20/2008
      Subject: Re: Cornelius Paper Model
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      Dario, thanks so much for posting the Paper Cornelius. He makes a
      great addition to our collections!

      Jeff (RedSpy)

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      > I could not find the original URL so I've uploaded the two PDF files
      > (you need both to make one model). You can find them in the
      > "PaperCornelius" folder I created in the "Files".
      >
      > These are pretty big files, so they should probably not be kept in
      the
      > archives for too long as they do that up a lot of space. So I would
      > suggest that those interested download them as soon as possible.
      >
      > The website (listed on the PDFs) do have other papercraft projects,
      so
      > visit it to give credit to the creators.
      >
      > Dario
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Jeff <RedSpy13@...>
      > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:03 pm
      > Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
      >
      > > Dario, please either e-mail your set to me or post it for the
      > > entire
      > > group. I would love to see them!
      > >
      > > Jeff (RedSpy)
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Yes. Thanks for incouraging him to create these.
      > > >
      > > > I have another set that was on a website years ago of a
      slightly
      > > larger
      > > > cornelius. But not a whole set like these. Very cool.
      > > >
      > > > A tip to first time builders: If at all possible, get some
      > > thicker
      > > paper
      > > > to print them on. It make building them easier and they are
      more
      > > durable
      > > > when you're done. But be carefull as well as some printers just
      > > can't
      > > > handle the very thick paper.
      > > >
      > > > Dario
      > > >
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: James <JamesA1102@>
      > > > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:43 am
      > > > Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
      > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Those are great Jeff. Thanks for sharing.
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@> wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Greetings, everyone. Several months ago I became friendly
      > > with
      > > an
      > > > > > artist known as "The Professor" who creates papercraft
      models
      > > and
      > > > > posts
      > > > > > them online for free download. He designed a bunch of the
      > > characters
      > > > > > from Star Trek that I thought were really cool. I contacted
      > > him
      > > and
      > > > > > suggested that he create some Planet of the Apes
      characters.
      > > He
      > > > > liked> the idea and said he would work on it. Well, he came
      > > through
      > > > > and> posted his creations this week on his website. All I can
      > > say
      > > > > is THEY
      > > > > > ARE FANTASTIC!!!! I have included the link to his page. If
      > > you
      > > go
      > > > > > there and download them, please go to the e-mail link at
      the
      > > > > bottom of
      > > > > > the page and drop him a note telling him what you think. He
      > > told me
      > > > > > that the kind words about his work make all the effort
      > > worthwhile.
      > > > > > Believe me, you won't be sorry to get these! Enjoy!
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > >
      http://www.professorplastik.com/monster_site/proscenium/kits/xtrakits/
      > > pa\
      > > > > perkits/page_gohako_apes.htm
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Jeff (RedSpy)
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ------------------------------------
      > >
      > > Yahoo! Groups Links
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 47704 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Re: BENEATH observation
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      In a message dated 7/20/2008 7:37:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnbkirtley@... writes:
      To me Roddy Mcdowall represented all that was good and great about the apes films and series
      thats not to take anything away from the other great performances and artistry involved both behind and in front of the camera.
       
      True.  We talk so much about Kim & Roddy that I often forget
      how great Evans' Zaius is.  We're actually lucky Eddie G didn't
      take the part.  Evans brought something special to that role.




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      Group: pota Message: 47705 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Re: Posted Pics
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      Love these quotes . . .
       
      SIGHTS AND INSIGHTS
      When an anniversary comes along to a film which is beloved and has a following it is expected by the consumer for a company to do the "best" it can do – not a second hand attempt. That is exactly what FOX has done with this release of PLANET OF THE APES. Rehashing material for a third time speaks volumes in terms of the care, or lack of, not to mention respect for a piece of film history. Lesser films in the FOX library have gotten better treatment.
       
       
      SIGHTS AND INSIGHTS
      FOX was never for the DVD format, but the man responsible for that stance has left - and seemingly, as left the company struggling to make up for lost time. This rushed, and cheaply put together box set wreaks of that state of mind.
       
       
      They sure know Fox and how they feel about POTA.
      It makes me want to kick Rupert Murdoch's ass.
      Is it just them or are all studios curses with
      similar leadership, if you can call it that???
       




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      Group: pota Message: 47706 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Re: The Venture Brothers
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      In a message dated 7/20/2008 8:49:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nzape@... writes:
      I have no
      idea what the music was like but I always liked the ridiculous
      parady of Budgies on the bodies of Gorillas from Planet Of The Apes.

      Brendan.
       
      Wish I'd seen that one!
      Planet of the Budgies.
      Sounds like a Hitchcock film!
       
      T
       
       
       




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      Group: pota Message: 47707 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 4091
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      In a message dated 7/20/2008 12:24:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, PofTAfan@... writes:
      You should have watched Robot Chicken when they did a spoof of "Planet of the Ape".
       
      What season was that?
      I did see a Zaius doll in
      the race spoof.




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      Group: pota Message: 47708 From: brendan486 Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Budgie Bandolier
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      Well, for those interested in seeing the classic Gorilla/Planet of the
      Apes on horseback with the head of a Budgie, just type Budgie
      Bandolier into Google. This is the name of the Group and the Album.
      The cover painting was by Patrick Woodruff who painted numerous
      SF/Fantasy/Horror pictures for albums and books in the 70's.
      I would post a link, but I don't know how.
      This week I am learning how to tie my shoe laces without using my
      fingers, and it's rather kmmphwhmmph...spit...complicated.

      Brendan.

      ps, Maybe James can do a link, but only if asked nicely.

      Pretty please with insulin requirement sweetness James?????
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      Group: pota Message: 47709 From: James Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Links
      .html

      FYI to anyone that may not be aware, every member of the group is free to add a link to the Group's links section: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/links 

      My approval or that of any other moderator is not needed. All we ask is that the link is somehow POTA related. Thanks.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "brendan486" <nzape@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      > ps, Maybe James can do a link, but only if asked nicely.
      >
      > Pretty please with insulin requirement sweetness James?????
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 47710 From: James Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Re: Cornelius Paper Model
      .html

      Thanks Dario! These are great.

      If anyone has trouble finding them just go here: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/PaperCornelius/


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      > I could not find the original URL so I've uploaded the two PDF files
      > (you need both to make one model). You can find them in the
      > "PaperCornelius" folder I created in the "Files".
      >
      > These are pretty big files, so they should probably not be kept in the
      > archives for too long as they do that up a lot of space. So I would
      > suggest that those interested download them as soon as possible.
      >
      > The website (listed on the PDFs) do have other papercraft projects, so
      > visit it to give credit to the creators.
      >
      > Dario
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Jeff RedSpy13@...
      > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:03 pm
      > Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
      >
      > > Dario, please either e-mail your set to me or post it for the
      > > entire
      > > group. I would love to see them!
      > >
      > > Jeff (RedSpy)
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola darios@ wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Yes. Thanks for incouraging him to create these.
      > > >
      > > > I have another set that was on a website years ago of a slightly
      > > larger
      > > > cornelius. But not a whole set like these. Very cool.
      > > >
      > > > A tip to first time builders: If at all possible, get some
      > > thicker
      > > paper
      > > > to print them on. It make building them easier and they are more
      > > durable
      > > > when you're done. But be carefull as well as some printers just
      > > can't
      > > > handle the very thick paper.
      > > >
      > > > Dario
      > > >
      > > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > > From: James JamesA1102@
      > > > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:43 am
      > > > Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes Hako Figures
      > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Those are great Jeff. Thanks for sharing.
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <RedSpy13@> wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Greetings, everyone. Several months ago I became friendly
      > > with
      > > an
      > > > > > artist known as "The Professor" who creates papercraft models
      > > and
      > > > > posts
      > > > > > them online for free download. He designed a bunch of the
      > > characters
      > > > > > from Star Trek that I thought were really cool. I contacted
      > > him
      > > and
      > > > > > suggested that he create some Planet of the Apes characters.
      > > He
      > > > > liked> the idea and said he would work on it. Well, he came
      > > through
      > > > > and> posted his creations this week on his website. All I can
      > > say
      > > > > is THEY
      > > > > > ARE FANTASTIC!!!! I have included the link to his page. If
      > > you
      > > go
      > > > > > there and download them, please go to the e-mail link at the
      > > > > bottom of
      > > > > > the page and drop him a note telling him what you think. He
      > > told me
      > > > > > that the kind words about his work make all the effort
      > > worthwhile.
      > > > > > Believe me, you won't be sorry to get these! Enjoy!
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > http://www.professorplastik.com/monster_site/proscenium/kits/xtrakits/
      > > pa\
      > > > > perkits/page_gohako_apes.htm
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Jeff (RedSpy)
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ------------------------------------
      > >
      > > Yahoo! Groups Links
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 47711 From: James Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
      .html

      My favorite is still the 4:30 Movie bacause they showed the POTA films.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
      >
      > MAJOR nostalgia trip-thanks. I was talking out loud while watching the
      > titles and frightened my cat ("MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE!!! I remember THAT").
      >
      > Bruce
      >
      >
      > In a message dated 7/20/2008 7:02:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
      > lawford42@... writes:
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > The WOR 4 O'Clock Movie:
      >
      > _http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo_
      > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6x8UKU25zM)
      >
      >
      > Oceans 13 opening titles:
      >
      > _http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo_
      > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWx-6QztSTw)
      >
      >
      > Now, there's in jokes and then there's **in** jokes. It's really kind of
      > cool that Soderbergh did that though.
      > And if the music has put you in a nostalgic mood, here's a cool tribute
      > to the WPIX, WOR, and WNEW movie intros from back in the day:
      >
      > _http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo_
      > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AHVY8SPhA8)
      >
      >
      > Chris L.
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      Group: pota Message: 47712 From: James Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Re: POTA Covers blog
      .html

      Thanks. I see that he comments on several other POTA covers as well: http://pencilink.blogspot.com/search?q=Planet+of+the+Apes

      Covers of all the Marvel Magazines and Comics (including beautiful restorations by Dave Ballard) are available on the Group website: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/ComicsCovers.htm


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "grotowski666" <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
      >
      > Just found this through Windows alerts:
      >
      > http://pencilink.blogspot.com/2008/07/adventures-on-planet-of-apes-6-jim.htmlbr>>
      > Interesting for the Graphic fans of POTA
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 47713 From: James Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Re: HELLO.....
      .html

      Welcome Collen. Please tell us about yourself. Where are you from? When did you first become a POTA fan? etc.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Colleen" <wvnightangel2004@...> wrote:
      >
      > HI EVERYONE. I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED POTA, AND WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE
      > GROUP SITE. MY NAME IS COLLEEN. HOPE TO MEET ALL OF YOU.
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 47714 From: Tim Durham Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Re: MONSTERAMA: PLANET OF THE APES COLLECTIBLES/ APEMANIA, 7/18/20..
      .html
      What are your rarities and how do I get a copy? Thank you for the time

      --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
      From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: MONSTERAMA: PLANET OF THE APES COLLECTIBLES/ APEMANIA, 7/18/20...
      To: goapebilly@...
      Cc: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 5:34 PM

      > if i can figure out how to do it,ill copy it.its saved on my dvr box

      If you can send it to me, I'll include it in the next Rarities disc.

      Thanks!

      Hunter Goatley
      P.O. Box 51745
      Bowling Green, KY 42102-6745

      Hunter
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      Group: pota Message: 47715 From: Rich Handley Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 4112
      .html
      Thanks for posting these. Fox has done an inept
      job with many of its projects, so this is no surprise.


      >Posted by: "LordTZer0@..." LordTZer0@... LordTZer0
      >Love these quotes . . .
      >SIGHTS AND INSIGHTS
      >When an anniversary comes along to a film which is beloved and has a
      >following it is expected by the consumer for a
      >company to do the “best” it can do ­
      >not a second hand attempt. That is exactly what FOX has done with this
      >release of PLANET OF THE APES. Rehashing
      >material for a third time speaks volumes
      >in terms of the care, or lack of, not to mention respect for a piece of film
      >history. Lesser films in the FOX library have gotten better treatment.
      >SIGHTS AND INSIGHTS
      >FOX was never for the DVD format, but the man responsible for that stance
      >has left - and seemingly, as left the company struggling to make up for lost
      >time. This rushed, and cheaply put together box set wreaks of that state of
      >mind.
      >They sure know Fox and how they feel about POTA.
      >It makes me want to kick Rupert Murdoch's ass.
      >Is it just them or are all studios curses with
      >similar leadership, if you can call it that???
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      Group: pota Message: 47716 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: Beautiful Planet of the Apes Poster, Giclee print
      .html
      This is for sale in the UK.  It costs over $200 per print, but it's a beauty:
       
       
      Jessica.
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      Group: pota Message: 47717 From: Jeff Date: 7/21/2008
      Subject: comic con
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      Even though I've had a string of bad luck these last 2 weeks, with my costumes, I'm still going to Comic-Con.  If any of you are there Friday and/or Saturday, look for me and say "HI"  Friday we'll have Zira, Marcus, Julius , and maybe Nova.  Saturday we'll have Julius, Nova and a young "human".  Hope to see you there.
       
      Jeff B
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      Group: pota Message: 47718 From: jose ramon Date: 7/22/2008
      Subject: Re: comic con
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      Take pics!

      JR

      --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote:

      From: Jeff <skintricks@...>
      Subject: [pota] comic con
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 9:25 PM

      Even though I've had a string of bad luck these last 2 weeks, with my costumes, I'm still going to Comic-Con.  If any of you are there Friday and/or Saturday, look for me and say "HI"  Friday we'll have Zira, Marcus, Julius , and maybe Nova.  Saturday we'll have Julius, Nova and a young "human".  Hope to see you there.
       
      Jeff B

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      Group: pota Message: 47719 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/22/2008
      Subject: OT- comic con request
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      On the odd chance there's anyone on this list who's interested in checking this out:
       
      ***************************************

      Friday, July 25

      2:00-3:00 Meet the (Wannabe) Press: Get a Sneak Peek into the Minds Behind On the Bubble— This new weekly animated web series takes a snarky yet refreshing look at current news through the eyes of four irreverent wannabe reporters from Middle Town Community College. Comedy Central alum Adam de la Peña, creator of Code Monkeys and one of the warped minds behind Crank Yankers and Minoriteam, unveils his new show. De la Peña is joined by Worldwide Biggies CEO Albie Hecht (SpongeBob SquarePants) and animation director Mark Salisbury (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles), to give a behind-the-scenes peek into the latest technology used to produce this weekly show. Sierra Mist executives will also be on hand to shed light on the new wave of brand-produced entertainment. The Q&A session will provide insightful tips on getting creative ideas greenlit by major brands eager to discover and invest in up-and-coming comedic talent. The panel also includes On the Bubble voice talent Dana Synder (Master Shake on Adult Swim’s Aqua Teen Hunger Force) and Glasgow Phillips (South Park).  Panel attendees will receive a free exclusive Comic-Con On the Bubble premium. Room 7AB
       
      ***************************************
       
      could you please contact me privately? Thanks!!
       
      Chris
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      Group: pota Message: 47720 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/22/2008
      Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
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      You're welcome. Here's a few more that are definitely specific to that era/area:
       
       
       
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nv-8EzZOO4 (The Channel 11 Film Festival)
       
       
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXKtIpGZwVQ (CBS Late Show with station bumper)
       
       
      Finally, does anyone else remember the spooky TV Guide music:
       
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "stenosaurus@..." <stenosaurus@...> wrote:
       
      >>MAJOR nostalgia trip-thanks. I was talking out loud while watching
      the
      titles and frightened my cat ("MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE!!! I remember THAT"). <<
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      Group: pota Message: 47721 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/22/2008
      Subject: Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
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      Coolness. Please see if you can find the table/booth/panel where Fox is supposedly going to be discussing the Blu-Ray set. If you get to ask any questions, please ask if they corrected the audio EFX from BENEATH. If you want, I can e-mail you a list of particulars.
       
      And on the odd chance they're giving some promo stuff away, please grab me one. Or two. Of each.  ;-)
       
       
      Thanks,
       
      Chris
       
       
       
      "PofTAfan@..." <PofTAfan@...> wrote:
       
      >>I will be at SDCC this month. So I will be
      attending<<
       
      I wrote:
       
      >>Is anyone on the list planning on attending? <<
       
       
      "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
       
      >>Digital Bits is reporting that the POTA Blu-Ray set will be
      announced/discussed at SDCC this month.

      http://www.thedigit albits.com/ rumormill..html070908 <<<.html

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      Group: pota Message: 47722 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2008
      Subject: Re: Lake Powell Locations
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      BTW, where you wrote "Where gorillas chase Brent and Nova in Beneath", did you mean the first or second time?
      Chris L.

      The second time. When you see that entire troupe of rides come out of the trees.

      -- Rory


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      Group: pota Message: 47723 From: lordtzer0 Date: 7/22/2008
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 4112
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      On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:48:45 PM, "Rich Handley" <handleyr@...> wrote:
      Thanks for posting these. Fox has done an inept
      job with many of its projects, so this is no surprise


      Yeah, you hear it so much here you start to think it's just us.
      Nice to have it independently confirmed.


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      Group: pota Message: 47724 From: jessica rotich Date: 7/22/2008
      Subject: Re: HELLO.....
      .html
      Welcome to the bunch, Colleen.  It's great to meet other like-minded apes.

      On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:33 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

      Welcome Collen. Please tell us about yourself. Where are you from? When did you first become a POTA fan? etc.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Colleen" <wvnightangel2004@...> wrote:
      >
      > HI EVERYONE. I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED POTA, AND WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE
      > GROUP SITE. MY NAME IS COLLEEN. HOPE TO MEET ALL OF YOU.
      >


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      Group: pota Message: 47725 From: Chris Lawless Date: 7/22/2008
      Subject: Re: comic con
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      If you can, try and find where G4 is broadcasting from. Last year they were interviewing some of the people in costumes, so you might end up on their broadcast on Friday. If nothing else, you can stand in the background and wave when they're doing a live feed. I'll watch for you.
       
      Have a great time!!
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
       
      >>Even though I've had a string of bad luck these last 2 weeks, with
      my costumes, I'm still going to Comic-Con. If any of you are there Friday and/or Saturday, look for me and say "HI" Friday we'll have Zira, Marcus, Julius , and maybe Nova. Saturday we'll have Julius, Nova and a young "human". Hope to see you there. <<<.html

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      Group: pota Message: 47726 From: m c Date: 7/22/2008
      Subject: Re: BENEATH observation
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      *** I think Edward G. Robinson could have easily pulled off Dr. Zaius with the same "spirit" as Maurice Evans (though in the Edward G. Robinson style of course...) ***

      From: LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...>
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: BENEATH observation
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 4:57 AM
       
      True.  We talk so much about Kim & Roddy that I often forget
      how great Evans' Zaius is.  We're actually lucky Eddie G didn't
      take the part.  Evans brought something special to that role.




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      Group: pota Message: 47727 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/22/2008
      Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
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      Those are great even though I didn't know them as a kid but I did find network promos that I remember well!

      also found this which would be excellent for the next Rarities disc if any one has it! It's a long form promo probably given to CBS stations for the upcoming 1974-75 season! THe second part...linked here....contains a certain show that we all know and love introduced by producer Herbert Hirschman...mostly clips from the film and behind the scenes we've seen before. it's about 7 minutes in Part two right after Rhoda..

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIGvSnmmSw&feature=related


      --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:

      > From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
      > Subject: [pota] Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
      > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 2:31 PM
      > You're welcome. Here's a few more that are
      > definitely specific to that
      > era/area:
      >
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ReXgxR-exY (Movie 9)
      >
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPouWic4qq0 (Million Dollar
      > Movie)
      >
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nv-8EzZOO4 (The Channel 11
      > Film Festival)
      >
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AySMIs7iozc (CBS Late Show)
      >
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXKtIpGZwVQ (CBS Late Show
      > with station
      > bumper)
      >
      > For James: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2es-lfRSDOI
      >
      > Finally, does anyone else remember the spooky TV Guide
      > music:
      >
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgFsncj6Qb4
      >
      >
      > Chris L.
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 47728 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/23/2008
      Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
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      I didn't till I saw that clip! Ah, memories....
       
      Bruce
       
      In a message dated 7/22/2008 7:52:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lawford42@... writes:
      Finally, does anyone else remember the spooky TV Guide music:
       
       
       
      Chris L.
       




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      Group: pota Message: 47729 From: Meg Griffin Date: 7/23/2008
      Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
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      Was the voice over Channel 7 newsman Roger Grimsby?

      ----- Original Message ----
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      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:08:36 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70

      I didn't till I saw that clip! Ah, memories....
       
      Bruce
       
      In a message dated 7/22/2008 7:52:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lawford42@juno. com writes:
      Finally, does anyone else remember the spooky TV Guide music:
       
       
       
      Chris L.
       




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      Group: pota Message: 47730 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/23/2008
      Subject: Re: for those who grew up watching NYC television stations in the 70
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      Nope. Don't know his name but he did it every week for TV Guide maybe someone else here knows?
       
      Bruce
       
      In a message dated 7/23/2008 5:43:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, splotchypigg@... writes:
      Was the voice over Channel 7 newsman Roger Grimsby?





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      Group: pota Message: 47731 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/23/2008
      Subject: Birthday Reminder
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      Group: pota Message: 47732 From: majinkoenma Date: 7/24/2008
      Subject: Battle/Lawgiver theory, what do you all think?
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      This is a theory that occurred to me as I was working on my POTA
      fanfic, and I thought I'd put it out there and see weather my fellow
      Apes fans agree with me. My apologies if someone else thought of this
      before me, and forgive me if I'm pointing out the blatantly obvious.

      Most people I've talked to agree that the ending of Battle for the
      Planet of the Apes is proof that the future had been changed, and
      instead of the Ape scoiety of the first two films developing a joint
      Ape/Human scoiety develops instead. I've always assumed this as well,
      but maybe the future wasn't really changer after all. My theory
      focuses on the Lawgiver.

      My theory is this, the Lawgiver we see at the beginning and end of
      Battle isn't the Lawgiver mentioned in the first two movies, the one
      who wrote the sacred scrolls. Maybe it's just me, but I've always just
      assumed that the Lawgiver from Battle is the one mentioned in the
      original movie, but now I don't think that is the case.

      Try to follow my logic. The ending scene in Battle with the Lawgiver
      teaching his class of Ape and Human children takes place 600 years
      after Caesar's death, which means that there is gap of approximately
      one thousand four hundred years between the end of Battle and the
      start of the original film. In the original Dr. Zaius tells Taylor
      that the Sacred Scrolls were written approximately one thousand two
      hundred years ago, two hundred years after Battle's ending scene. That
      would mean that Battle's Lawgiver couldn't be the THE Lawgiver from
      the original movie. That would also mean that there is ample time for
      the joint ape/human scoiety to fail, Humans to devolve into animals,
      and the Ape scoiety seen in the first two movies to develop.

      Again, forgive me if I;m pointing out something that everyone else had
      already figured out a long time ago, but there it is. So what do you
      all think?
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      Group: pota Message: 47733 From: majinkoenma Date: 7/24/2008
      Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
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      >
      > Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group
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      A very happy birthday to you Nova...I mean Ms. Harrison.
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      Group: pota Message: 47734 From: Robert Mansell Date: 7/24/2008
      Subject: Re: FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS, YET....
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      Fair enough.........
       
      Robert Mansell
       
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:29 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS, YET....

      No it's not the U.K. set it's a test set from the U.S.

      Bruce


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Robert Mansell <robert.mansell@ tiscali.co. uk>
      To: pota@yahoogroups. com
      Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:03 pm
      Subject: Re: [pota] FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS, YET....

      If this is a UK edition of them which came out in 1974 I can get the set for about £200 !!!!
       
      Robert Mansell
       

      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:51 PM
      Subject: [pota] FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS, YET....

      ...it was not enough t o own this card set! Wonder what the reserve price was!

      http://cgi.ebay. com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330248178441&ssPageName=STRK: MEWA:IT&ih=014


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      Group: pota Message: 47735 From: scott bosco Date: 7/24/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle/Lawgiver theory, what do you all think?
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      Personally, I think most people are just reading into the thing at face value and not getting the original point for the inconsistencies .  The whole point of the parallel ape society was to bring to light what is negative in our own.  Once given the power of speech the ape prove to be no better or worse than us.  They hide the truth, exploit the innocent, hide behind lies, misuse religion, have prejudices, ignore the lessons of history – even rewrite it to fit their own end.  When seen in this way less explaining is needed in attempting to tie together inconsistent plots points and actually adds more depth to the very large and epic history.
      The Lawgiver’s original intentions may have been liberal and socially minded but I believe through the years were altered to fit political means. 
      In PLANET we are show the structure then BENEATH the end results.  With ESCAPE, CONQUEST and BATTLE we the viewers are actually shown the truth of how events unfolded.  Events are as they actually happened, before they’ve been rewritten by and evolving society which prided itself to be different from those who enslaved them.  Through the thousands of years they (Apes) only fell into the same trap we human did and like the game of telephone the true story changed to fit what they felt their perfect society required.  They felt that hiding the truth would be safer than dealing with it.  
      Humans ruling the world – covered up.
      A Gorilla committing the first murder of an ape – covered, and perhaps given the credit of being the first to say, “No” to his human master. 
      Obviously something happened, “politically” to change the importance of Orangutans from BATTLE to the TV series and the then PLANET.  The Orangutans rule, the Gorillas have the power/army.  That’s a bit switch from the larger number Chimps that seem to be around in BATTLE .  I believe there was a coup by the Orangutans in league with the Gorillas which would develop into the system we see in the TV Series – and is suggested as being still wavering and precariously balanced between the Orangutans and the Gorillas – with still some distaste from the Chimpanzees.  By PLANET each has settled into their places, but by BENEATH we see old satisfactions rearing.  (In PLANET it was hinted at when Zira and Dr. Galan talk about a “quota” system being abolished – for Chimps with titles perhaps?)
      For these and other reason this is why I feel the statue of Caesar is seen weeping.  For all or differences, we, ape and human are terribly the same – doomed to repeat the past for lack of learning from it.  All that Caesar aspired to would be lost to hubris and arrogance.  Proving that one species was no better than the other … or worse.  Proving, at least in this section of the universe, there was nothing better than man.
      - Scott B.
       

      majinkoenma <majinkoenma@...> wrote:
      This is a theory that occurred to me as I was working on my POTA
      fanfic, and I thought I'd put it out there and see weather my fellow
      Apes fans agree with me. My apologies if someone else thought of this
      before me, and forgive me if I'm pointing out the blatantly obvious.

      Most people I've talked to agree that the ending of Battle for the
      Planet of the Apes is proof that the future had been changed, and
      instead of the Ape scoiety of the first two films developing a joint
      Ape/Human scoiety develops instead. I've always assumed this as well,
      but maybe the future wasn't really changer after all. My theory
      focuses on the Lawgiver.

      My theory is this, the Lawgiver we see at the beginning and end of
      Battle isn't the Lawgiver mentioned in the first two movies, the one
      who wrote the sacred scrolls. Maybe it's just me, but I've always just
      assumed that the Lawgiver from Battle is the one mentioned in the
      original movie, but now I don't think that is the case.

      Try to follow my logic. The ending scene in Battle with the Lawgiver
      teaching his class of Ape and Human children takes place 600 years
      after Caesar's death, which means that there is gap of approximately
      one thousand four hundred years between the end of Battle and the
      start of the original film. In the original Dr. Zaius tells Taylor
      that the Sacred Scrolls were written approximately one thousand two
      hundred years ago, two hundred years after Battle's ending scene. That
      would mean that Battle's Lawgiver couldn't be the THE Lawgiver from
      the original movie. That would also mean that there is ample time for
      the joint ape/human scoiety to fail, Humans to devolve into animals,
      and the Ape scoiety seen in the first two movies to develop.

      Again, forgive me if I;m pointing out something that everyone else had
      already figured out a long time ago, but there it is. So what do you
      all think?


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      Group: pota Message: 47736 From: Stuart Drucker Date: 7/24/2008
      Subject: Re: Battle/Lawgiver theory, what do you all think?
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      How about this idea?

      At some point after 2670 AD (the time of the epilogue in Battle ), there’s a war between the Humans (trying to restore their dominion over the Apes, possibly driven by a charismatic demagogue) and the Apes (defending the status quo). Some humans stumble upon a cache of biological WMD, which they try to use on the Apes, killing many, until a chimp doctor named Galen discovers a cure. The Apes are about to lose when a gorilla named Aldo rallies the Apes. He leads a war of extermination against the Humans at a Rwandan genocide scale, driving the survivors out to the jungle, and in the process the liberal/egalitarian Ape leadership is swept aside.

       

      Aldo, it turns out, realizes that Gorillas aren’t particularly good at the boring parts of government, and leaves that to the weakest element of ape society, the Orangutans. The Orangutans and the Gorillas prop each other up, and form their own “creation myth”, with Aldo (metaphorically speaking) as the Ape who first said “no”. The leader of the Orangutans that comes up with the pact is the Lawgiver, and to give the Chimps a fig leaf in their new society, immortalize Proteus as the Chimp (I think he was one) that helped humiliate the surviving Humans by leading one on a leash for the ape children to make sport of. This leads to the stasis-based society we see in Planet.

       

      And to reinforce the idea of repeating history, the bioweapon the Humans used turns out to have genetic effects which lead to the de-evolution of humanity over time (the ones with exposure to the area where the weapon was released, anyway). You wouldn’t think 2000 years of radiation would be enough by itself? And needing to escape apes wouldn’t be enough reason to suddenly stop thinking and talking after millennia of doing so?

       

      So in essence you have a mini-war which has reason to give the apes a permanent reason to be fearful of humans beyond just the historic memory of a “time before time”.

       

      Stuart

       

      From: pota@yahoogroups.com [ pota@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of scott bosco
      Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:49 AM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Battle/Lawgiver theory, what do you all think?

       

      Personally, I think most people are just reading into the thing at face value and not getting the original point for the inconsistencies .  The whole point of the parallel ape society was to bring to light what is negative in our own.  Once given the power of speech the ape prove to be no better or worse than us.  They hide the truth, exploit the innocent, hide behind lies, misuse religion, have prejudices, ignore the lessons of history – even rewrite it to fit their own end.  When seen in this way less explaining is needed in attempting to tie together inconsistent plots points and actually adds more depth to the very large and epic history.

      The Lawgiver’s original intentions may have been liberal and socially minded but I believe through the years were altered to fit political means. 

      In PLANET we are show the structure then BENEATH the end results.  With ESCAPE, CONQUEST and BATTLE we the viewers are actually shown the truth of how events unfolded.  Events are as they actually happened, before they’ve been rewritten by and evolving society which prided itself to be different from those who enslaved them.  Through the thousands of years they (Apes) only fell into the same trap we human did and like the game of telephone the true story changed to fit what they felt their perfect society required.  They felt that hiding the truth would be safer than dealing with it.  

      Humans ruling the world – covered up.

      A Gorilla committing the first murder of an ape – covered, and perhaps given the credit of being the first to say, “No” to his human master. 

      Obviously something happened, “politically” to change the importance of Orangutans from BATTLE to the TV series and the then PLANET.  The Orangutans rule, the Gorillas have the power/army.  That’s a bit switch from the larger number Chimps that seem to be around in BATTLE .  I believe there was a coup by the Orangutans in league with the Gorillas which would develop into the system we see in the TV Series – and is suggested as being still wavering and precariously balanced between the Orangutans and the Gorillas – with still some distaste from the Chimpanzees.  By PLANET each has settled into their places, but by BENEATH we see old satisfactions rearing.  (In PLANET it was hinted at when Zira and Dr. Galan talk about a “quota” system being abolished – for Chimps with titles perhaps?)

      For these and other reason this is why I feel the statue of Caesar is seen weeping.  For all or differences, we, ape and human are terribly the same – doomed to repeat the past for lack of learning from it.  All that Caesar aspired to would be lost to hubris and arrogance.  Proving that one species was no better than the other … or worse.  Proving, at least in this section of the universe, there was nothing better than man.

      - Scott B.

       


      majinkoenma <majinkoenma@ yahoo.com> wrote:

      This is a theory that occurred to me as I was working on my POTA
      fanfic, and I thought I'd put it out there and see weather my fellow
      Apes fans agree with me. My apologies if someone else thought of this
      before me, and forgive me if I'm pointing out the blatantly obvious.

      Most people I've talked to agree that the ending of Battle for the
      Planet of the Apes is proof that the future had been changed, and
      instead of the Ape scoiety of the first two films developing a joint
      Ape/Human scoiety develops instead. I've always assumed this as well,
      but maybe the future wasn't really changer after all. My theory
      focuses on the Lawgiver.

      My theory is this, the Lawgiver we see at the beginning and end of
      Battle isn't the Lawgiver mentioned in the first two movies, the one
      who wrote the sacred scrolls. Maybe it's just me, but I've always just
      assumed that the Lawgiver from Battle is the one mentioned in the
      original movie, but now I don't think that is the case.

      Try to follow my logic. The ending scene in Battle with the Lawgiver
      teaching his class of Ape and Human children takes place 600 years
      after Caesar's death, which means that there is gap of approximately
      one thousand four hundred years between the end of Battle and the
      start of the original film. In the original Dr. Zaius tells Taylor
      that the Sacred Scrolls were written approximately one thousand two
      hundred years ago, two hundred years after Battle 's ending scene. That
      would mean that Battle 's Lawgiver couldn't be the THE Lawgiver from
      the original movie. That would also mean that there is ample time for
      the joint ape/human scoiety to fail, Humans to devolve into animals,
      and the Ape scoiety seen in the first two movies to develop.

      Again, forgive me if I;m pointing out something that everyone else had
      already figured out a long time ago, but there it is. So what do you
      all think?

       

       

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      Group: pota Message: 47737 From: Rich Handley Date: 7/24/2008
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 4115
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      >Posted by: "scott bosco" digitalcinema@... digitalcinema
      >Personally, I think most people are just reading
      >into the thing at face value and not getting the
      >original point for the inconsistencies
      [SNIP FOR BREVITY]
      > For these and other reason this is why I feel
      > the statue of Caesar is seen weeping. For all
      > or differences, we, ape and human are terribly
      > the same ­ doomed to repeat the past for lack
      > of learning from it. All that Caesar aspired
      > to would be lost to hubris and
      > arrogance. Proving that one species was no
      > better than the other … or worse. Proving, at
      > least in this section of the universe, there was nothing better than man.


      Agreed, 100%. Apes made the very same mistakes
      humans made, and were capable of the very same
      corruptions and indiscretions. If that is, in
      fact, the same Lawgiver, then his teachings were
      corrupted and distorted by those who came after
      him. Thus, the Sacred Scrolls, as Cornelius
      says, aren't worth the parchment they're written
      on--because they're meaningless propoganda,
      filled with lies and inaccurate presentations.
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      Group: pota Message: 47738 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/24/2008
      Subject: Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?
      .html
      If you get to ask any questions, please ask if they corrected the audio EFX from BENEATH.
      What exactly are we talking about here?  I can't recall, but did BENEATH still have audio problems with its "Legacy" set anamorphic release?  (I'll have to check this out.)  Are we still hearing audio in the background before the scene arrives?

      -- Rory


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 2:01 pm
      Subject: [pota] Re: (OT) Ready for Blu-ray?

      Coolness. Please see if you can find the table/booth/ panel where Fox is supposedly going to be discussing the Blu-Ray set. If you get to ask any questions, please ask if they corrected the audio EFX from BENEATH. If you want, I can e-mail you a list of particulars.
       
      And on the odd chance they're giving some promo stuff away, please grab me one. Or two. Of each.  ;-)
       
       
      Thanks,
       
      Chris
       
       
       
      "PofTAfan@aol. com" <PofTAfan@aol. com> wrote:
       
      >>I will be at SDCC this month. So I will be attending<<
       
      I wrote:
       
      >>Is anyone on the list planning on attending? <<
       
       
      "drhasslein" <drhasslein@yahoo. com> wrote:
       
      >>Digital Bits is reporting that the POTA Blu-Ray set will be
      announced/discussed at SDCC this month.

      http://www.thedigit albits.com/ rumormill..html070908 <<


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      Group: pota Message: 47739 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/24/2008
      Subject: Re: BENEATH observation
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      *** I think Edward G. Robinson could have easily pulled off Dr. Zaius with the same "spirit" as Maurice Evans (though in the Edward G. Robinson style of course...) ***

      I'm not sure, but I think in the long run Robinson would have been too much of a distraction as Zaius.  Everyone would still be going "That's Edward G. Robinson!"  Evans, because he wasn't that familiar to movie audiences then and especially now, kind of IS Dr. Zaius.

      -- Rory

      -----Original Message-----
      From: m c <aboro3085@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 9:00 pm
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: BENEATH observation

      *** I think Edward G. Robinson could have easily pulled off Dr. Zaius with the same "spirit" as Maurice Evans (though in the Edward G. Robinson style of course...) ***

      From: LordTZer0@AOL. com <LordTZer0@AOL. com>
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: BENEATH observation
      To: pota@yahoogroups. com
      Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 4:57 AM
       
      True.  We talk so much about Kim & Roddy that I often forget
      how great Evans' Zaius is.  We're actually lucky Eddie G didn't
      take the part.  Evans brought something special to that role.




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