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Group: pota Message: 48040 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!
Group: pota Message: 48041 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: Diamond Select Retros
Group: pota Message: 48042 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: [OT] This whole Blu-Ray mess...
Group: pota Message: 48043 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: [OT] This whole Blu-Ray mess...
Group: pota Message: 48044 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48045 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48046 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!
Group: pota Message: 48047 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48048 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48049 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48050 From: billy simons Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: san diego comic con
Group: pota Message: 48051 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48052 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: Diamond Select Retros
Group: pota Message: 48053 From: Mike R Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: Diamond Select Retros
Group: pota Message: 48054 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48055 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48056 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48057 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 48058 From: Jeff Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48059 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: OT- the most obscure in-joke I've ever come across
Group: pota Message: 48060 From: Jeff Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: san diego comic con
Group: pota Message: 48061 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: san diego comic con
Group: pota Message: 48062 From: ronhatter Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: The Apemania Imposters
Group: pota Message: 48063 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: [OT] This whole Blu-Ray mess...
Group: pota Message: 48064 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!
Group: pota Message: 48065 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48066 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48067 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: san diego comic con
Group: pota Message: 48068 From: zasco1957 Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Blu-Ray again...
Group: pota Message: 48069 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48070 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: Diamond Select Retros
Group: pota Message: 48071 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: Diamond Select Retros
Group: pota Message: 48072 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48073 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48074 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48075 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48076 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48077 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: san diego comic con
Group: pota Message: 48078 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Great Gorilla NEws!!
Group: pota Message: 48079 From: m c Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48080 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
Group: pota Message: 48081 From: Jeff Date: 8/6/2008
Subject: Re: san diego comic con
Group: pota Message: 48082 From: Jeff Date: 8/6/2008
Subject: Re: san diego comic con
Group: pota Message: 48083 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/6/2008
Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48084 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/6/2008
Subject: [OT] This whole Blu-Ray mess...
Group: pota Message: 48085 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/6/2008
Subject: Re: Great Gorilla News!!
Group: pota Message: 48086 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/6/2008
Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48087 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/7/2008
Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48088 From: Jeff Date: 8/8/2008
Subject: blu ray
Group: pota Message: 48089 From: James Date: 8/8/2008
Subject: Cornelius' Journal
Group: pota Message: 48090 From: scott bosco Date: 8/8/2008
Subject: Re: blu ray
Group: pota Message: 48091 From: gp3085 Date: 8/8/2008
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in STAMFORD, CT
Group: pota Message: 48092 From: drhasslein Date: 8/9/2008
Subject: Re: blu ray
Group: pota Message: 48093 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/9/2008
Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48094 From: William Burge Date: 8/9/2008
Subject: more heston photos
Group: pota Message: 48095 From: angelofmusic2112 Date: 8/10/2008
Subject: Re: blu ray
Group: pota Message: 48096 From: scott bosco Date: 8/10/2008
Subject: Re: more heston photos
Group: pota Message: 48097 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/10/2008
Subject: The Complete Planet of the Apes Sunday Observer Special
Group: pota Message: 48098 From: zasco1957 Date: 8/10/2008
Subject: Re: Cornelius' Journal
Group: pota Message: 48099 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/10/2008
Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48100 From: James Date: 8/11/2008
Subject: Re: The Complete Planet of the Apes Sunday Observer Special
Group: pota Message: 48101 From: James Date: 8/11/2008
Subject: Re: Cornelius' Journal
Group: pota Message: 48102 From: David Giwner Date: 8/11/2008
Subject: Fw: [Lost_ABCTV] Season 5 Spoiler (up on ew.com)
Group: pota Message: 48103 From: Dave B Date: 8/12/2008
Subject: 24 on the POTA
Group: pota Message: 48104 From: Jeff Date: 8/12/2008
Subject: Planet of the Apes Game
Group: pota Message: 48105 From: zasco1957 Date: 8/13/2008
Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48106 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/13/2008
Subject: Re: 24 on the POTA
Group: pota Message: 48107 From: Dave B Date: 8/13/2008
Subject: Brazilian Apes spoof
Group: pota Message: 48108 From: James Date: 8/13/2008
Subject: Re: Brazilian Apes spoof
Group: pota Message: 48109 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 8/13/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 48110 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 8/14/2008
Subject: Message from POTA UK Chat Forum
Group: pota Message: 48111 From: Rob Reading Date: 8/14/2008
Subject: US Panet of the Apes comics
Group: pota Message: 48112 From: Robert Mansell Date: 8/14/2008
Subject: Reinsertion of Footage Question....
Group: pota Message: 48113 From: scott bosco Date: 8/14/2008
Subject: Re: Reinsertion of Footage Question....
Group: pota Message: 48114 From: Dave B Date: 8/14/2008
Subject: Re: US Panet of the Apes comics
Group: pota Message: 48115 From: rob reading Date: 8/14/2008
Subject: Re: US Panet of the Apes comics
Group: pota Message: 48116 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/14/2008
Subject: POTA (& KONG) on the screen in El Paso, TEXAS!
Group: pota Message: 48117 From: James Date: 8/15/2008
Subject: Cornelius' Journal
Group: pota Message: 48118 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/15/2008
Subject: FAKE news item from the net!
Group: pota Message: 48119 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/16/2008
Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48120 From: scott bosco Date: 8/16/2008
Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48121 From: Mark Date: 8/16/2008
Subject: Deleted POTA scene?
Group: pota Message: 48122 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/16/2008
Subject: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48123 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2008
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48124 From: Jeff Date: 8/16/2008
Subject: Re: Deleted POTA scene?
Group: pota Message: 48125 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/16/2008
Subject: Genesis
Group: pota Message: 48126 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2008
Subject: Re: Genesis
Group: pota Message: 48127 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/16/2008
Subject: Re: Genesis
Group: pota Message: 48128 From: scott bosco Date: 8/16/2008
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48129 From: zasco1957 Date: 8/17/2008
Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48130 From: Bob Date: 8/17/2008
Subject: Re: Genesis
Group: pota Message: 48131 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2008
Subject: Re: Genesis
Group: pota Message: 48132 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2008
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48133 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2008
Subject: Re: Genesis
Group: pota Message: 48134 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/17/2008
Subject: Re: Genesis
Group: pota Message: 48135 From: scott bosco Date: 8/17/2008
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
Group: pota Message: 48136 From: drhasslein Date: 8/17/2008
Subject: Re: Genesis
Group: pota Message: 48137 From: drhasslein Date: 8/18/2008
Subject: Re: Genesis
Group: pota Message: 48138 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 8/18/2008
Subject: Anniversary Reminder
Group: pota Message: 48139 From: m c Date: 8/19/2008
Subject: Re: Genesis



Group: pota Message: 48040 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!
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So glad MD didn't get the part of Fonzie. That would have been as bad
as Tom Sellick as Indiana Jones.
Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 9:16 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!







Did you know that one of the actors trying out for the part of Fonzie

was Micky Dolenz of the Monkies?

And were full circle back to Apes.

He also started as Circus Boy.

A nod to Armando.



In a message dated 8/3/2008 1:22:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:

That's right. Happy Days was originally a failed pilot that was
broadcast on LOVE AMERICAN STYLE then picked up as a series. Just add
Fonzie





Did you know that one of the actors trying out for the part of Fonzie

was Micky Dolenz of the Monkies?

And were full circle back to Apes.

He also started as Circus Boy.

A nod to Armando.



In a message dated 8/3/2008 1:22:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:

That's right. Happy Days was originally a failed pilot that was
broadcast on LOVE AMERICAN STYLE then picked up as a series. Just add
Fonzie







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Group: pota Message: 48041 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: Diamond Select Retros
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you're right....and I would asumme Diamond select will have their name on there...

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:
From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 4:44 AM

The repros have to have bar codes on the packaging don't they (as opposed to the old ones)? I didn't notice if the ST TOS ones did or not.
 
Bruce
 
In a message dated 8/3/2008 5:38:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, apefan23@yahoo. com writes:
I guess the logo will be the only difference? If there is NO difference, I see a slew of ebayers trying to pass the new ones off as old





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Group: pota Message: 48042 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: [OT] This whole Blu-Ray mess...
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In a message dated 8/3/2008 8:21:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Zasco1957@... writes:
But my complaint here is, what is one going to do with their current DVD-R or DVD+R's?  This new format won't play "regular" DVD's that a lot of us own, and I understand that there are already DVD Blu-Ray recorders that will pay either the "plus" or the "minus" formats...so what happens to what we have now?  I certainly can't, and won't, change everything I have from the "standard" version of DVD discs to the "Blu-Ray" ones...a person would have to be Donald Trump to be able to afford that! 
 
Zach 
I think DVD-Rs and +Rs should play on Blu-ray players, as should all your other standard DVDs.
 
The Home Video Industry very much wants people to now conveert over to Blu-ray, because they are harder to copy, but standard DVD is a very popular product and most people are pretty happy with it.  My bet is that it'll be around for some time.  I think the relationship between standard DVDs and HD Blu-ray is going to be very much like the one between VHS and laserdisc.  That relationship last a little over fifteen years, with laserdiscs always a niche market, however laserdiscs always cost on average over $35, while Blu-ray software may eventually sell for $15 - $20.  So, Blu-ray is going to be bigger than laserdiscs, but will exist alongside standard DVDs for I would bet around the next ten years.
 
-- Rory 




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Group: pota Message: 48043 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: [OT] This whole Blu-Ray mess...
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I generally stick with Panasonic.  I have two Panasonic DVD recorders and two players.  They're all a few years old now and I've never had any problems with them.  I'd like to get a Panasonic plasma, but I fear that by the time I get around to it plasmas will be dead.
 
-- Rory
 
In a message dated 8/4/2008 7:12:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, digitalcinema@... writes:

Zach,
Dave is correct.  If you would like a better comparison on a few players go to www.crutchfield. com and check off "compare" you self all the players you checked with shared features side by side.  Panasonic has gotten better reviews and more importantly less complaints from consumers.  Try to find a site that has consumer comments over reviews - reviews can be bought.  I know as a writer/reviewer in the past I've run into very shady dealings over what and had to write it for magazines who did did want to lose a company as an advertiser.
The Panasonic players seem to upgrade more, have had less problems in playing newer discs with more features. 
Decide how you are going to connect your player to you TV and if you have a Home theater receiver.  The best way is of course HDMI it will carry both sound and picture to your TV.  If you want to take advantage of the "lossless" audio Blu has to offer  make sure your receiver can do it via HDMI.  You can connect it with analogue cables but only the most expensive players give you that option for 6.1/for 7.1  If having both Dolby and DTS lossless audio is important than again only certain players do both - Sonys is great for putting only their upper priced players.
It is the lossess audio which offers uncompressed sound which people don't usually look into in terms of how to get it, or which players offer in both Dolby and DTS.  Don't believe that you need to have HDMI 1.3, the signal will carry over shorter distance on a lower version of 1.3 - however, your if your receiver isn't newer if may not decode right.  In that case just make sure the player has a built in decoder.
To get the most out of the Blu format you really have to go slow and do your research.  Don't depend on your local store to fill you in.  You have to be wise and do this yourself.  It's your money, and salesman don't work for you.  There's a lot to look into so take your time. 
Scott B.

Dave B <smugster2000@ yahoo.com> wrote:
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@. ..> wrote:

>
> But my complaint here is, what is one going to do with their current
DVD-R
> or DVD+R's? This new format won't play "regular" DVD's that a lot
of us own

Zach,

ALL Blu-ray players will play your standard def DVDs. (and many will
'upscale' the image quality making them look better than ever)

Many Blu-ray players will play DVD-r.

DVD+r is a little more hit and miss but in my experience that's been
the same with standard def DVD players.

Dave






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Group: pota Message: 48044 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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Group: pota Message: 48045 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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yes its a cool great model,unfortunately it has a horrible paint job. goapebilly
 
In a message dated 8/4/2008 12:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stenosaurus@... writes:




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Group: pota Message: 48046 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!
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.html Im sure there was talk at the time of Roddy playing C3PO at some point. The part is very much like Galen in a way.


To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: stenosaurus@...
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:49:52 -0400
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!

STAR WARS borrowed from everyone. Lucas took "cowboy" themes, "knights
in shining armor" etc and set them to a space theme as well as using
ides from pre-existing space shows like Lost in Space (funny human
robots anyone?) Star Trek & Forbidden Planet.

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@AOL. com
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 1:06 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it' s CONQUEST!

I've been noticing just how much Star Wars owes to

Star Trek. Tractor Beams, Deflector Shields.  They

may have been introduced in previous science fiction,

but the first I'd heard of them was on Star Trek.

 

In a message dated 8/2/2008 11:40:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:

STAR WARS

I've been noticing just how much Star Wars owes to

Star Trek. Tractor Beams, Deflector Shields.  They

may have been introduced in previous science fiction,

but the first I'd heard of them was on Star Trek.

 

In a message dated 8/2/2008 11:40:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:

STAR WARS

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Group: pota Message: 48047 From: ~~Joanne~~ Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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and yet the description states:
 
SUPER NICE PAINT JOB!!!

 


--- On Mon, 8/4/08, goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...> wrote:
From: goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...>
Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 12:51 PM

yes its a cool great model,unfortunately it has a horrible paint job. goapebilly
 
In a message dated 8/4/2008 12:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:




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Group: pota Message: 48048 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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Yes what a hairdo! Now if you (theoreticallly)bought it billy would you
re-paint it or leave it as a classic from the 70's ?

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: goapebilly@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE







yes its a cool great model,unfortunately it has a horrible paint job.
goapebilly




In a message dated 8/4/2008 12:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:





I have one still in the box but I've never seen one built up before.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ADDAR-AURORA-Planet-of-the-Apes-STALLION-SOLDIER-1974_W0QQitemZ280251244578QQihZ018QQcategoryZ1192QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bruce








yes its a cool great model,unfortunately it has a horrible paint job.
goapebilly




In a message dated 8/4/2008 12:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:





I have one still in the box but I've never seen one built up before.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ADDAR-AURORA-Planet-of-the-Apes-STALLION-SOLDIER-1974_W0QQitemZ280251244578QQihZ018QQcategoryZ1192QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bruce










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Group: pota Message: 48049 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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you would have to repaint it,that is one of the best models made for apes.i always loved it.reminds me of opening for tv show when gorilla holds rifle over head.i say the worst one is zira horrible pose,plus the face is horrendous,no matter the best paint jobs ive seen cant fix the face at all.aurora did a great job with most of them,with figure and appropriates backround for scene.after stallion model liked scene in bottle they were good.  goapebilly
 
In a message dated 8/4/2008 5:12:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stenosaurus@... writes:

Yes what a hairdo! Now if you (theoreticallly) bought it billy would you
re-paint it or leave it as a classic from the 70's ?

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: goapebilly@aol. com
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE

yes its a cool great model,unfortunately it has a horrible paint job.
goapebilly

 

In a message dated 8/4/2008 12:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:

I have one still in the box but I've never seen one built up before.

http://cgi.ebay. com/ADDAR- AURORA-Planet- of-the-Apes- STALLION- SOLDIER-1974_ W0QQitemZ2802512 44578QQihZ018QQc ategoryZ1192QQss PageNameZWDVWQQr dZ1QQcmdZViewIte m

Bruce

yes its a cool great model,unfortunately it has a horrible paint job.
goapebilly

 

In a message dated 8/4/2008 12:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:

I have one still in the box but I've never seen one built up before.

http://cgi.ebay. com/ADDAR- AURORA-Planet- of-the-Apes- STALLION- SOLDIER-1974_ W0QQitemZ2802512 44578QQihZ018QQc ategoryZ1192QQss PageNameZWDVWQQr dZ1QQcmdZViewIte m

Bruce

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Group: pota Message: 48050 From: billy simons Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: san diego comic con
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i checked out pix,wonderful costumes. who is and did the julius costume?
also who did the zira feet? if you have pix would love to see them.the
nova costume is actually real good,seen some which are horrible,was it
fan made or costume? goapebilly
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Group: pota Message: 48051 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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I wonder why this one wasn't as popular as the other six.....therefore more rare and more expensive!

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

> From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
> Subject: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:42 AM
> I have one still in the box but I've never seen one
> built up before.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ADDAR-AURORA-Planet-of-the-Apes-STALLION-SOLDIER-1974_W0QQitemZ280251244578QQihZ018QQcategoryZ1192QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
> Bruce
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Group: pota Message: 48052 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: Diamond Select Retros
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That pretty much looks like the original as I recall!


--- On Mon, 8/4/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

> From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 7:37 AM
> Here's an image of the ST TOS retro figures:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/McCOY-RETRO-CLOTH-ACTION-FIGURE/dp/B0013OSIF6/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=kids&qid=1217849500&sr=1-14
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 7:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I guess the logo will be the only difference? If there is
> NO
> difference, I see a slew of ebayers trying to pass the new
> ones off as
> old
>
> --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Hunter Goatley
> <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
> > Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 1:01 PM
> > > Cornelius and Soldier Ape should be coming out
> soon!
> >
> > They were supposed to be out months ago. Are they
> actually
> > still
> > coming out?
> >
> > Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 48053 From: Mike R Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: Diamond Select Retros
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.html It's based on the original package art but there are signifigant differences. The 6 characters on the original card were Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty(or as Mego called him "Scottie"), Uhura and Klingon.
 
On The new package, Uhura, Scotty are replaced by the later isseued (on completely different cards)  Romulan and Andorian.  Uhura and Scotty will be among the second wave of releases. The "Mego" is taken off the card art, of course. And a large Warning (I think about small parts) is on the front in a black box. This also sets it apart from the original. The back of the package is entirely different from the original back.
 
The ones for POTA will likely follow the same formula.




To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: apefan23@...
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:08:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros


That pretty much looks like the original as I recall!

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com> wrote:

> From: stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 7:37 AM
> Here's an image of the ST TOS retro figures:
> http://www.amazon. co.uk/McCOY- RETRO-CLOTH- ACTION-FIGURE/ dp/B0013OSIF6/ ref=sr_1_ 14?ie=UTF8& s=kids&qid= 1217849500& sr=1-14
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@yahoo. com>
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 7:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I guess the logo will be the only difference? If there is
> NO
> difference, I see a slew of ebayers trying to pass the new
> ones off as
> old
>
> --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Hunter Goatley
> <goathunter@goatley. com> wrote:
>
> > From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@goatley. com>
> > Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
> > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 1:01 PM
> > > Cornelius and Soldier Ape should be coming out
> soon!
> >
> > They were supposed to be out months ago. Are they
> actually
> > still
> > coming out?
> >
> > Hunter




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Group: pota Message: 48054 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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> I wonder why this one wasn't as popular as the other
> six.....therefore more rare and more expensive!

I don't know about elsewhere, but I suspect it was rare when it was
released. I never even knew this one existed until the late '90s. It
certainly was never available anywhere in my area when I was growing
up (though the others were).

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 48055 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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I always loved the box artwork for this one. Ditto for Caesar and Aldo-
it was cool to see those orange sky painted scenes based on BATTLE. Come
to think of it, is the artwork for all of the original Addar models up
anywhere? I'm drawing a blank right now- can't even remember how many
there were. Cornelius, Zira, Zaius, Ursus, Urko, Caesar, Stallion &
Solider. Am I missing any?

Apparently, the seller has all sever models listed. Some built up, some
not:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtodd.the.train.man


Chris L.
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Group: pota Message: 48056 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/4/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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That's what I'm wondering....why did this not get a wide release when it first came out....I never saw it til much later as well...



--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 9:46 PM

> I wonder why this one wasn't as popular as the other
> six.....therefore more rare and more expensive!

I don't know about elsewhere, but I suspect it was rare when it was
released. I never even knew this one existed until the late '90s. It
certainly was never available anywhere in my area when I was growing
up (though the others were).

Hunter


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Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Group: pota Message: 48058 From: Jeff Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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This one was always my second favorite.  It was the only one that had "motion" and didn't look like a pose.
 
Jeff B
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE


I wonder why this one wasn't as popular as the other six.....therefore more rare and more expensive!

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com> wrote:

> From: stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com>
> Subject: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:42 AM
> I have one still in the box but I've never seen one
> built up before.
>
> http://cgi.ebay. com/ADDAR- AURORA-Planet- of-the-Apes- STALLION- SOLDIER-1974_ W0QQitemZ2802512 44578QQihZ018QQc ategoryZ1192QQss PageNameZWDVWQQr dZ1QQcmdZViewIte m
>
>
> Bruce

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Group: pota Message: 48059 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: OT- the most obscure in-joke I've ever come across
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Unless of course you grew up in the NYC television broadcast area in the 70's. It's really cool Soderbergh did that though.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 48060 From: Jeff Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: san diego comic con
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My son Trey was Julius on Friday (Julius with  Nova, alone).  I was Julius on Saturday (with Nova and a young human female).  I made everything, EXCEPT the wigs and hairpieces.  I had 3 hrs to make us all up on Friday.  My Marcus make up was started by me and finished by "Zira"  She forgot to brush off my powder, which shows in the pics. 
 
Jeff B
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: [pota] san diego comic con

i checked out pix,wonderful costumes. who is and did the julius costume?
also who did the zira feet? if you have pix would love to see them.the
nova costume is actually real good,seen some which are horrible,was it
fan made or costume? goapebilly

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Group: pota Message: 48061 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: san diego comic con
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Jeff, that is incredible that you had three hours and you made everyone up!  That's serious business!!
 
Jessica.

 
On 8/4/08, Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote:

My son Trey was Julius on Friday (Julius with  Nova, alone).  I was Julius on Saturday (with Nova and a young human female).  I made everything, EXCEPT the wigs and hairpieces.  I had 3 hrs to make us all up on Friday.  My Marcus make up was started by me and finished by "Zira"  She forgot to brush off my powder, which shows in the pics. 
 
Jeff B
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: [pota] san diego comic con

 

i checked out pix,wonderful costumes. who is and did the julius costume?
also who did the zira feet? if you have pix would love to see them.the
nova costume is actually real good,seen some which are horrible,was it
fan made or costume? goapebilly


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Group: pota Message: 48062 From: ronhatter Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: The Apemania Imposters
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The person in the Cornelius and Ceasar Make-ups looks a light Mcdowall
(Cornelius' hair is wrong though) but the rest of them not really
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Group: pota Message: 48063 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: [OT] This whole Blu-Ray mess...
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I got the LCD.  With plasma you have to worry about burn in
from everything.  So if you play video games, watch a news
channel with a ticker at the bottom or even use a cable
or satellite guide for extended searches, forget plasma.
 
In a message dated 8/4/2008 9:43:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
I generally stick with Panasonic.  I have two Panasonic DVD recorders and two players.  They're all a few years old now and I've never had any problems with them.  I'd like to get a Panasonic plasma, but I fear that by the time I get around to it plasmas will be dead.
 
-- Rory




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Group: pota Message: 48064 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!
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I always thought so as well.

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 3:14 pm
Subject: RE: [pota] Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!






Im sure there was talk at the time of Roddy playing C3PO at some point.
The part is very much like Galen in a way.


To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: stenosaurus@...
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:49:52 -0400
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!




STAR WARS borrowed from everyone. Lucas took "cowboy" themes, "knights
in shining armor" etc and set them to a space theme as well as using
ides from pre-existing space shows like Lost in Space (funny human
robots anyone?) Star Trek & Forbidden Planet.

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 1:06 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!

I've been noticing just how much Star Wars owes to

Star Trek. Tractor Beams, Deflector Shields. They

may have been introduced in previous science fiction,

but the first I'd heard of them was on Star Trek.



In a message dated 8/2/2008 11:40:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:

STAR WARS

I've been noticing just how much Star Wars owes to

Star Trek. Tractor Beams, Deflector Shields. They

may have been introduced=2
0in previous science fiction,

but the first I'd heard of them was on Star Trek.



In a message dated 8/2/2008 11:40:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:

STAR WARS

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Group: pota Message: 48065 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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Guess he means the face isn't BLUE or something lol.

Bruce


and yet the description states:



SUPER NICE PAINT JOB!!!








-----Original Message-----
From: ~~Joanne~~ <josievan@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 4:01 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE











and yet the description states:



SUPER NICE PAINT JOB!!!






--- On Mon, 8/4/08, goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...> wrote:

From: goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...>
Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 12:51 PM





yes its a cool great model,unfortunately it has a horrible paint job.
goapebilly




In a message dated 8/4/2008 12:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:





I have one still in the box but I've never seen one built up before.

http://cgi.ebay com/ADDAR- AURORA-Planet- of-the-Apes- STALLION-
SOLDIER-1974_ W0QQitemZ2802512 44578QQihZ018QQc ategoryZ1192QQss
PageNameZWDVWQQr dZ1QQcmdZViewIte m

Bruce










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Group: pota Message: 48066 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
.html
I guess so... a good paintjob would only increase the value of the
model AND make it look better!

Bruce






you would have to repaint it,that is one of the best models made for
apes.i always loved it.reminds me of opening for tv show when gorilla
holds rifle over head.i say the worst one is zira horrible pose,plus
the face is horrendous,no matter the best paint jobs ive seen cant fix
the face at all.aurora did a great job with most of them,with figure
and appropriates backround for scene.after stallion model liked scene
in bottle they were good. goapebilly




you would have to repaint it,that is one of the best models made for
apes.i always loved it.reminds me of opening for tv show when gorilla
holds rifle over head.i say the worst one is zira horrible pose,plus
the face is horrendous,no matter the best paint jobs ive seen cant fix
the face at all.aurora did a great job with most of them,with figure
and appropriates backround for scene.after stallion model liked scene
in bottle they were good. goapebilly









-----Original Message-----
From: goapebilly@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE







you would have to repaint it,that is one of the best models made for
apes.i always loved it.reminds me of opening for tv show when gor
illa
holds rifle over head.i say the worst one is zira horrible pose,plus
the face is horrendous,no matter the best paint jobs ive seen cant fix
the face at all.aurora did a great job with most of them,with figure
and appropriates backround for scene.after stallion model liked scene
in bottle they were good. goapebilly




In a message dated 8/4/2008 5:12:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:





Yes what a hairdo! Now if you (theoreticallly)bought it billy would you
re-paint it or leave it as a classic from the 70's ?

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: goapebilly@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE

yes its a cool great model,unfortunately it has a horrible paint job.
goapebilly



In a message dated 8/4/2008 12:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:

I have one still in the box but I've never seen one built up before.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ADDAR-AURORA-Planet-of-the-Apes-STALLION-SOLDIER-1974_W0QQitemZ280251244578QQihZ018QQcategoryZ1192QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bruce

yes its a cool great model,unfortunately it has a horrible paint job.
goapebilly



In a message dated 8/4/2008 12:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:

I have one still in the box but I've never seen one built up before.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ADDAR-AURORA-Planet-of-the-A
pes-STALLION-SOLDIER-1974_W0QQitemZ280251244578QQihZ018QQcategoryZ1192QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bruce

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you would have to repaint it,that is one of the best models made for
apes.i always loved it.reminds me of opening for tv show when gorilla
holds rifle over head.i say the worst one is zira horrible pose,plus
the face is horrendous,no matter the best paint jobs ive seen cant fix
the face at all.aurora did a great job with most of them,with figure
and appropriates backround for scene.after stallion model liked scene
in bottle they were good. goapebilly




In a message dated 8/4/2008 5:12:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:





Yes what a hairdo! Now if you (theoreticallly)bought it billy would you
re-paint it or leave it as a classic from the 70's ?

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: goapebilly@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:51 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE

yes its a cool great model,unfortunately it has a horrible paint job.
goapebilly



In a message dated 8/4/2008 12:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:

I have one still in the box but I've never seen one built up before.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ADDAR-AURORA-Planet-of-the-Apes-STALLION-SOLDIER-1974_W0QQitemZ280251244578QQ
ihZ018QQcategoryZ1192QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bruce

yes its a cool great model,unfortunately it has a horrible paint job.
goapebilly



In a message dated 8/4/2008 12:46:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
stenosaurus@... writes:

I have one still in the box but I've never seen one built up before.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ADDAR-AURORA-Planet-of-the-Apes-STALLION-SOLDIER-1974_W0QQitemZ280251244578QQihZ018QQcategoryZ1192QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bruce

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Group: pota Message: 48067 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Re: san diego comic con
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.html Have been away on holiday. Where do I find the pictures?
Am picking up my costume today!!!
John



To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: jessicarotich@...
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:43:06 -0700
Subject: Re: [pota] san diego comic con


Jeff, that is incredible that you had three hours and you made everyone up!  That's serious business!!
 
Jessica.

 
On 8/4/08, Jeff <skintricks@cox. net> wrote:

My son Trey was Julius on Friday (Julius with  Nova, alone).  I was Julius on Saturday (with Nova and a young human female).  I made everything, EXCEPT the wigs and hairpieces.  I had 3 hrs to make us all up on Friday.  My Marcus make up was started by me and finished by "Zira"  She forgot to brush off my powder, which shows in the pics. 
 
Jeff B
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: [pota] san diego comic con

 

i checked out pix,wonderful costumes. who is and did the julius costume?
also who did the zira feet? if you have pix would love to see them.the
nova costume is actually real good,seen some which are horrible,was it
fan made or costume? goapebilly






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Group: pota Message: 48068 From: zasco1957 Date: 8/5/2008
Subject: Blu-Ray again...
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    I would like to thank wholeheartedly my fellow Apester friends for giving me such great information on the Blu-Ray technology, I really appreciate it.  It certainly is a relief to find out that I won't have to discard what I already have put so much work into.
     
    Again, thanks so much.
     
    Zach   
     
    -------Original Message-------
     
    Date: 08/04/08 09:43:32
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Re: [OT] This whole Blu-Ray mess...
     

     
     
    In a message dated 8/3/2008 8:21:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Zasco1957@aol. com writes:
    But my complaint here is, what is one going to do with their current DVD-R or DVD+R's?  This new format won't play "regular" DVD's that a lot of us own, and I understand that there are already DVD Blu-Ray recorders that will pay either the "plus" or the "minus" formats...so what happens to what we have now?  I certainly can't, and won't, change everything I have from the "standard" version of DVD discs to the "Blu-Ray" ones...a person would have to be Donald Trump to be able to afford that! 
     
    Zach 
    I think DVD-Rs and +Rs should play on Blu-ray players, as should all your other standard DVDs.
     
    The Home Video Industry very much wants people to now conveert over to Blu-ray, because they are harder to copy, but standard DVD is a very popular product and most people are pretty happy with it.  My bet is that it'll be around for some time.  I think the relationship between standard DVDs and HD Blu-ray is going to be very much like the one between VHS and laserdisc.  That relationship last a little over fifteen years, with laserdiscs always a niche market, however laserdiscs always cost on average over $35, while Blu-ray software may eventually sell for $15 - $20.  So, Blu-ray is going to be bigger than laserdiscs, but will exist alongside standard DVDs for I would bet around the next ten years.
     
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    Group: pota Message: 48069 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
    Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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    It never got re-released by Polar Lights/Aurora. neither did the 2
    "APES in a bottle" models. Also very rare & more valuable.

    Bruce






    I wonder why this one wasn't as popular as the other six.....therefore
    more rare and more expensive!








    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:08 pm
    Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE







    I wonder why this one wasn't as popular as the other six.....therefore
    more rare and more expensive!

    --- On Mon, 8/4/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

    > From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
    > Subject: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:42 AM
    > I have one still in the box but I've never seen one
    > built up before.
    >
    >
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ADDAR-AURORA-Planet-of-the-Apes-STALLION-SOLDIER-1974_W0QQitemZ280251244578QQihZ018QQcategoryZ1192QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
    >
    >
    > Bruce
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    Group: pota Message: 48070 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
    Subject: Re: Diamond Select Retros
    .html
    Yes a very nice repro.

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:08 pm
    Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros






    That pretty much looks like the original as I recall!

    --- On Mon, 8/4/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

    > From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
    > Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 7:37 AM
    > Here's an image of the ST TOS retro figures:
    >
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/McCOY-RETRO-CLOTH-ACTION-FIGURE/dp/B0013OSIF6/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=kids&qid=1217849500&sr=1-14
    >
    >
    > Bruce
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 7:09 pm
    > Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I guess the logo will be the only difference? If there is
    > NO
    > difference, I see a slew of ebayers trying to pass the new
    > ones off as
    > old
    >
    > --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Hunter Goatley
    > <goathunter@...> wrote:
    >
    > > From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
    > > Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
    > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > > Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 1:01 PM
    > > > Cornelius and Soldier Ape should be coming out
    > soon!
    > >
    > > They were supposed to be out months ago. Are they
    > actually
    > > still
    > > coming out?
    > >
    > > Hunter
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    Group: pota Message: 48071 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
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    But it's still pretty cool-looking.

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Mike R <mego73@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20 pm
    Subject: RE: [pota] Diamond Select Retros






    It's based on the original package art but there are signifigant
    differences. The 6 characters on the original card were Kirk, Spock,
    McCoy, Scotty(or as Mego called him "Scottie"), Uhura and Klingon.

    On The new package, Uhura, Scotty are replaced by the later isseued (on
    completely different cards) Romulan and Andorian. Uhura and Scotty
    will be among the second wave of releases. The "Mego" is taken off the
    card art, of course. And a large Warning (I think about small parts) is
    on the front in a black box. This also sets it apart from the original.
    The back of the package is entirely different from the original back.

    The ones for POTA will likely follow the same formula.




    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    From: apefan23@...
    Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:08:44 -0700
    Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros





    That pretty much looks like the original as I recall!

    --- On Mon, 8/4/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

    > From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
    > Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 7:37 AM
    > Here's an image of the ST TOS retro figures:
    >
    http://w
    ww.amazon.co.uk/McCOY-RETRO-CLOTH-ACTION-FIGURE/dp/B0013OSIF6/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=kids&qid=1217849500&sr=1-14
    >
    >
    > Bruce
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 7:09 pm
    > Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I guess the logo will be the only difference? If there is
    > NO
    > difference, I see a slew of ebayers trying to pass the new
    > ones off as
    > old
    >
    > --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Hunter Goatley
    > <goathunter@...> wrote:
    >
    > > From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
    > > Subject: Re: [pota] Diamond Select Retros
    > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > > Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 1:01 PM
    > > > Cornelius and Soldier Ape should be coming out
    > soon!
    > >
    > > They were supposed to be out months ago. Are they
    > actually
    > > still
    > > coming out?
    > >
    > > Hunter




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    Group: pota Message: 48072 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
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    The 2 "scenes in a bottle" also.

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 1:42 am
    Subject: [pota] Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE






    I always loved the box artwork for this one. Ditto for Caesar and Aldo-
    it was cool to see those orange sky painted scenes based on BATTLE. Come
    to think of it, is the artwork for all of the original Addar models up
    anywhere? I'm drawing a blank right now- can't even remember how many
    there were. Cornelius, Zira, Zaius, Ursus, Urko, Caesar, Stallion &
    Solider. Am I missing any?

    Apparently, the seller has all sever models listed. Some built up, some
    not:

    http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtodd.the.train.man

    Chris L.
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    Group: pota Message: 48073 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
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    If I remember correctly it was the last one Addar released. They had
    planned more dioramas like the spaceship crash and Cornelius & Zira on
    trial on 1973 Earth in the courtroom but they were never made.

    Bruce

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 3:20 am
    Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE










    That's what I'm wondering....why did this not get a wide release when
    it first came out....I never saw it til much later as well...



    --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

    From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 9:46 PM




    > I wonder why this one wasn't as popular as the other
    > six.....therefore more rare and more expensive!

    I don't know about elsewhere, but I suspect it was rare when it was
    released. I never even knew this one existed until the late '90s. It
    certainly was never available anywhere in my area when I was growing
    up (though the others were).

    Hunter
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    Group: pota Message: 48074 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
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    I wanted to build it but never did. Mine is still in the box.

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jeff <skintricks@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 4:47 am
    Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE








    This one was always my second favorite. It was the only one that had
    "motion" and didn't look like a pose.



    Jeff B


    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Tim "apefan"

    To: pota@yahoogroups.com

    Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:08 PM

    Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE






    I wonder why this one wasn't as popular as the other six.....therefore
    more rare and more expensive!

    --- On Mon, 8/4/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

    > From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
    > Subject: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:42 AM
    > I have one still in the box but I've never seen one
    > built up before.
    >
    >
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ADDAR-AURORA-Planet-of-the-Apes-STALLION-SOLDIER-1974_W0QQitemZ280251244578QQihZ018QQcategoryZ1192QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
    >
    >
    > Bruce
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    Attachments :
      there were THREE bottle models..!

      Cornefield, jail wagon and treehouse


      --- On Tue, 8/5/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

      > From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
      > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
      > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 8:37 AM
      > The 2 "scenes in a bottle" also.
      >
      > Bruce
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
      > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 1:42 am
      > Subject: [pota] Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > I always loved the box artwork for this one. Ditto for
      > Caesar and Aldo-
      > it was cool to see those orange sky painted scenes based on
      > BATTLE. Come
      > to think of it, is the artwork for all of the original
      > Addar models up
      > anywhere? I'm drawing a blank right now- can't even
      > remember how many
      > there were. Cornelius, Zira, Zaius, Ursus, Urko, Caesar,
      > Stallion &
      > Solider. Am I missing any?
      >
      > Apparently, the seller has all sever models listed. Some
      > built up, some
      > not:
      >
      > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtodd.the.train.man
      >
      > Chris L.
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 48076 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
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      Never saw the treehouse!
       
      Bruce
       
      In a message dated 8/5/2008 11:38:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:
      there were THREE bottle models..!

      Cornefield, jail wagon and treehouse





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      Group: pota Message: 48077 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/5/2008
      Subject: Re: san diego comic con
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      Jeff,
       
      I found lots of photos of earlier on the Yahoo homepage but it's no longer there...it had about 54 photos from the SDCC.  I don't know if this link works, but your son is on the second page out of 13 photos here!! 
       
       
       
      John, check out the photograph section of the group.  Jeff created a new album in there, entitled SDCC 08, or just view the new photographs which are accessible on the home page of the group.
       
      Jessica.

      On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:02 AM, John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:

      Have been away on holiday. Where do I find the pictures?
      Am picking up my costume today!!!
      John



      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      From: jessicarotich@...
      Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:43:06 -0700
      Subject: Re: [pota] san diego comic con



      Jeff, that is incredible that you had three hours and you made everyone up!  That's serious business!!
       
      Jessica.

       
      On 8/4/08, Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote:

      My son Trey was Julius on Friday (Julius with  Nova, alone).  I was Julius on Saturday (with Nova and a young human female).  I made everything, EXCEPT the wigs and hairpieces.  I had 3 hrs to make us all up on Friday.  My Marcus make up was started by me and finished by "Zira"  She forgot to brush off my powder, which shows in the pics. 
       
      Jeff B
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:50 PM
      Subject: [pota] san diego comic con

       

      i checked out pix,wonderful costumes. who is and did the julius costume?
      also who did the zira feet? if you have pix would love to see them.the
      nova costume is actually real good,seen some which are horrible,was it
      fan made or costume? goapebilly







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      Subject: Great Gorilla NEws!!
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      Group: pota Message: 48079 From: m c Date: 8/5/2008
      Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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      --- On Tue, 8/5/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:
      From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
      Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 4:02 AM

      I guess so... a good paint job would only increase the value of the 
      model AND make it look better!
      
       
      
      *** Actually, the opposite is true... ANY paint job on a model that rare, be it an excellent professional job or some kid that slopped TESTORS model paint all over it devalue the model immensely... Only original unpainted models fetch top dollar...
      No amount of great painting can actually up the worth... ***
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
      
      

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      Group: pota Message: 48080 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 8/5/2008
      Subject: Re: VERY NICE VERY RARE
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      If I took an Aurora 1963 Frankenstein and re-painted it today (a good job that is) it would not lower the value?
       
      Bruce
       
      In a message dated 8/5/2008 8:52:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aboro3085@... writes:



      --- On Tue, 8/5/08, stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com> wrote:
      From: stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com>
      Subject: Re: [pota] VERY NICE VERY RARE
      To: pota@yahoogroups. com
      Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 4:02 AM

      I guess so... a good paint job would only increase the value of the 
      model AND make it look better!
      
       
      
      *** Actually, the opposite is true... ANY paint job on a model that rare, be it an excellent professional job or some kid that slopped TESTORS model paint all over it devalue the model immensely... Only original unpainted models fetch top dollar...
      No amount of great painting can actually up the worth... ***
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
      
      





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      Group: pota Message: 48081 From: Jeff Date: 8/6/2008
      Subject: Re: san diego comic con
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      Thanks.  My son found that one on a German website and an Atlanta newspage.
       
      Jeff B
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:18 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] san diego comic con

      Jeff,
       
      I found lots of photos of earlier on the Yahoo homepage but it's no longer there...it had about 54 photos from the SDCC.  I don't know if this link works, but your son is on the second page out of 13 photos here!! 
       
       
       
      John, check out the photograph section of the group.  Jeff created a new album in there, entitled SDCC 08, or just view the new photographs which are accessible on the home page of the group.
       
      Jessica.

      On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:02 AM, John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@ hotmail.com> wrote:

      Have been away on holiday. Where do I find the pictures?
      Am picking up my costume today!!!
      John



      To: pota@yahoogroups. com
      From: jessicarotich@ gmail.com
      Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:43:06 -0700
      Subject: Re: [pota] san diego comic con



      Jeff, that is incredible that you had three hours and you made everyone up!  That's serious business!!
       
      Jessica.

       
      On 8/4/08, Jeff <skintricks@cox. net> wrote:

      My son Trey was Julius on Friday (Julius with  Nova, alone).  I was Julius on Saturday (with Nova and a young human female).  I made everything, EXCEPT the wigs and hairpieces.  I had 3 hrs to make us all up on Friday.  My Marcus make up was started by me and finished by "Zira"  She forgot to brush off my powder, which shows in the pics. 
       
      Jeff B
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:50 PM
      Subject: [pota] san diego comic con

       

      i checked out pix,wonderful costumes. who is and did the julius costume?
      also who did the zira feet? if you have pix would love to see them.the
      nova costume is actually real good,seen some which are horrible,was it
      fan made or costume? goapebilly







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      Group: pota Message: 48082 From: Jeff Date: 8/6/2008
      Subject: Re: san diego comic con
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      So,  does anyone know who the other Apes were/are?
       
      Jeff B
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:50 PM
      Subject: [pota] san diego comic con

      i checked out pix,wonderful costumes. who is and did the julius costume?
      also who did the zira feet? if you have pix would love to see them.the
      nova costume is actually real good,seen some which are horrible,was it
      fan made or costume? goapebilly

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      Group: pota Message: 48083 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/6/2008
      Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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      Rory,
       
      I checked the original VHS version, and there were in fact sounds of the doors being opened and closed during that scene. So that's been removed as well. Someone either at Fox or at Chance Stereo Surround (or both) obviously hate ambient background noise. To go through and tinker with so many different things...
       
      If anyone watches BENEATH, please keep an eye out for other such oddities such as no sound effects where there should be.
       
      BTW, does ANYONE else remember the tunnel scene with Brent and Nova as I described it where you still hear the air whooshing through when they touch the ladder?
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      I wrote:
       
      >>I'll check out the original version and let you know, but I don't
      recall those sound effects ever being there. <<
       
       
      "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote: 
       
      >>OK, I just watched the "Legacy Set" DVD anamorphic transfer of
      BENEATH, with remixed Dolby 5.1 surround, and the only audio problem I could detect -- and I didn't give it really careful listen -- was that during the scene of the gorillas locking the chimpanzee protestors into the wagon cages, there was no sound of the cage doors being slammed. Can anyone with an older transfer, because I no longer have mine, check and see if the "Foley" effect of wagon doors being slammed was there originally? <<<.html

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      Group: pota Message: 48084 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/6/2008
      Subject: [OT] This whole Blu-Ray mess...
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      In a message dated 8/5/2008 6:25:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

       
      I got the LCD.  With plasma you have to worry about burn in
      from everything.  So if you play video games, watch a news
      channel with a ticker at the bottom or even use a cable
      or satellite guide for extended searches, forget plasma
       
      Yes, burn in is a big problem with plasmas, but guess what?
       
      Plasmas give you a better picture and you can watch them from any angle.  Hopefully something better than LCDs and plasmas will come along.
       
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      Group: pota Message: 48085 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/6/2008
      Subject: Re: Great Gorilla News!!
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      In a message dated 8/5/2008 7:57:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:
      Too bad they could find even more!




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      Group: pota Message: 48086 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/6/2008
      Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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      In a message dated 8/6/2008 1:36:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:
      BTW, does ANYONE else remember the tunnel scene with Brent and Nova as I described it where you still hear the air whooshing through when they touch the ladder?
       
       
      Chris L.
      I can't say I recall it, but it makes sense that it should be that way.  With the lack of other sound effects, such as the wagon doors, not being there, you have to wonder if the sound on BENEATH isn't one big mess that Fox can't seem to fix.  I'll bet the Blu-ray audio will have problems too, but hopefully not.
       
      All of the sequels were originally mono, so way back when Chace first started this "stereoizing" thing, that's when things got screwed up.  Now, they've (and I don't know if Chace is still involved) supposedly done all new 5.1 mixes for the Blu-rays.  Hard to imagine professionals working on those couldn't do the best job possible, but I haven't much faith in them.  I'm hoping this time the music tracks will finally be true stereo?  If they're doing isolated scores, I would think they would be.
       
      Terrible situation, isn't it?
       
      -- Rory




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      Group: pota Message: 48087 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/7/2008
      Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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      Indeed it is. My only hope in this case (since I haven't heard from the audio department) is that they're going back to the original tapes to produce the new mix. In theory, all the original sound EFX **should** be there then.
       
      Interestingly enough, and internet search for 'Chance Stereo Surround' turns up absolutely nothing. So maybe there's hope.
       
       
      Chris L.
       
       
       
      "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
       
      >>I can't say I recall it, but it makes sense that it should be that
      way.
      With the lack of other sound effects, such as the wagon doors, not being there,
      you have to wonder if the sound on BENEATH isn't one big mess that Fox can't
      seem to fix. I'll bet the Blu-ray audio will have problems too, but
      hopefully not.

      All of the sequels were originally mono, so way back when Chace first
      started this "stereoizing" thing, that's when things got screwed up. Now, they've
      (and I don't know if Chace is still involved) supposedly done all new 5.1
      mixes for the Blu-rays. Hard to imagine professionals working on those couldn't
      do the best job possible, but I haven't much faith in them. I'm hoping this
      time the music tracks will finally be true stereo? If they're doing
      isolated scores, I would think they would be.

      Terrible situation, isn't it? <<
       
       
      I wrote:
       
      >>BTW, does ANYONE else remember the tunnel scene with Brent and Nova
      as I
      described it where you still hear the air whooshing through when they touch the ladder? <<<.html

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      Group: pota Message: 48088 From: Jeff Date: 8/8/2008
      Subject: blu ray
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      Apemania has all the specs listed for the set.  I'm not sure if they're the same as what's been listed here previously.
       
      Jeff B
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: James
      Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:50 AM
      Subject: [pota] Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it's CONQUEST!

      Sure: http://www.potamedi aarchive. com/Downloads/ BeneathNATO. wmv Enjoy!

      --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "bobkind3" <dave@...> wrote:
      >
      > Could anyone point me in the direction of this Beneath Nato film? I
      > didn't know of its existence until reading this present thread.I'd be
      > happy to watch it in any form. Was it on rarities 1?
      >
      > Another thing that is puzzling me about the press release is how the
      > version of Conquest is being referred to as the "unrated version" not
      > released in the US. As far I am aware this version has never been
      > released and is the rejected workprint. Are the copywriters getting
      > mixed up with the two versions of Battle? I take it that the extra 8
      > minutes will include the prologue (ape chase), the death of Breck
      > and "happy ending" lopped off. I must say that this is the ape rarity
      > I always wanted to see.
      >
      > I have a feeling (but put me right) that the Escape prologue, though
      > filmed, wasn't assembled or the effects shot were not complete. This
      > may explain why it was not included. Still at the end of the day it
      > seems Fox are not prepared to spend the time nor money on the
      > restoration of the small number of deleted scenes that would fully
      > satisfy long time fans. Shame that these films will never be licensed
      > to those DVD companies that pull out all the stops "cult" releases.
      > They would really do the sequels justice
      >
      > Dave
      >
      > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "drhasslein" drhasslein@ wrote:
      > >
      > > If they would have included the deleted scenes from Planet and
      > Escape,
      > > and the Beneath NATO film, I would have been content. I know it can
      > be
      > > downloaded from the group, but I would like a video version of NATO
      > > film. Hunter, if its not on the set, please put it on Rareties 3.
      > >
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 48089 From: James Date: 8/8/2008
      Subject: Cornelius' Journal
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      It's Friday again and that means the latest entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now available. 

      To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm

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      Group: pota Message: 48090 From: scott bosco Date: 8/8/2008
      Subject: Re: blu ray
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      Yes, they look the same.  Isn't it amazing how fans can sell-out and become part of the machine that shovels shit just for 5 mins. of fame.  They have to realize this release is just more of the same with some much more missing.  Are that that quickly appeased by a few HD produced shorts?
      Rancid.
      Scott B.

      Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote:
      Apemania has all the specs listed for the set.  I'm not sure if they're the same as what's been listed here previously.
       
      Jeff B
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: James
      Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:50 AM
      Subject: [pota] Re: BLU-RAY CONTENTS--it' s CONQUEST!

      --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "bobkind3" <dave@...> wrote:
      >
      > Could anyone point me in the direction of this Beneath Nato film? I
      > didn't know of its existence until reading this present thread.I'd be
      > happy to watch it in any form. Was it on rarities 1?
      >
      > Another thing that is puzzling me about the press release is how the
      > version of Conquest is being referred to as the "unrated version" not
      > released in the US. As far I am aware this version has never been
      > released and is the rejected workprint. Are the copywriters getting
      > mixed up with the two versions of Battle? I take it that the extra 8
      > minutes will include the prologue (ape chase), the death of Breck
      > and "happy ending" lopped off. I must say that this is the ape rarity
      > I always wanted to see.
      >
      > I have a feeling (but put me right) that the Escape prologue, though
      > filmed, wasn't assembled or the effects shot were not complete. This
      > may explain why it was not included. Still at the end of the day it
      > seems Fox are not prepared to spend the time nor money on the
      > restoration of the small number of deleted scenes that would fully
      > satisfy long time fans. Shame that these films will never be licensed
      > to those DVD companies that pull out all the stops "cult" releases.
      > They would really do the sequels justice
      >
      > Dave
      >
      > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "drhasslein" drhasslein@ wrote:
      > >
      > > If they would have included the deleted scenes from Planet and
      > Escape,
      > > and the Beneath NATO film, I would have been content. I know it can
      > be
      > > downloaded from the group, but I would like a video version of NATO
      > > film. Hunter, if its not on the set, please put it on Rareties 3.
      > >
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 48091 From: gp3085 Date: 8/8/2008
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      My wife and I went to this last night. Nice print, better than the
      one at the Ziegfeld, I think. There were about 30 people in the
      audience. One person arrived in a gorilla costume, but they took it
      off before taking their seat. It was just an ordinary gorilla
      costume, not one from the film.

      Greg

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
      >
      > Part of a Sci-fi series,...their website doesn't have any more
      specific info as of yet.
      >
      > http://www.avontheatre.org/index.html"
      >
      >
      > >>Other August showings include "Planet of the Apes" on Aug. 7
      >
      > *
      > The Avon Theatre is at 272 Bedford St. in downtown Stamford.
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      Group: pota Message: 48092 From: drhasslein Date: 8/9/2008
      Subject: Re: blu ray
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      Well there are potential positives to the set, I never thought the
      preview cut of conquest would ever see the light of day, hopefully the
      beneath audio will be corrected, the isolated scores, cross fingers
      that faces won't have the blu ray wax look, and the biggest plus, we
      don't have to buy the Burton film again!


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
      >
      > Yes, they look the same. Isn't it amazing how fans can sell-out and
      become part of the machine that shovels shit just for 5 mins. of fame.
      They have to realize this release is just more of the same with some
      much more missing. Are that that quickly appeased by a few HD produced
      shorts?
      > Rancid.
      > Scott B.
      >
      > Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote:
      > Apemania has all the specs listed for the set. I'm not
      sure if they're the same as what's been listed here previously.
      >
      > Jeff B
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      Group: pota Message: 48093 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/9/2008
      Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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      In a message dated 8/7/2008 10:32:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:
      Interestingly enough, and internet search for 'Chance Stereo Surround' turns up absolutely nothing. So maybe there's hope.
       
       
      Chris L.
      I believe the company name is "Chace."
       
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      Group: pota Message: 48094 From: William Burge Date: 8/9/2008
      Subject: more heston photos
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        i found some more great photos from planet. from william burge

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        Group: pota Message: 48095 From: angelofmusic2112 Date: 8/10/2008
        Subject: Re: blu ray
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        I'm just tickled that I'll finally get to see CONQUEST with all the
        extras!

        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
        >
        > Well there are potential positives to the set, I never thought the
        > preview cut of conquest would ever see the light of day, hopefully
        the
        > beneath audio will be corrected, the isolated scores, cross fingers
        > that faces won't have the blu ray wax look, and the biggest plus,
        we
        > don't have to buy the Burton film again!
        >
        >
        > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@> wrote:
        > >
        > > Yes, they look the same. Isn't it amazing how fans can sell-out
        and
        > become part of the machine that shovels shit just for 5 mins. of
        fame.
        > They have to realize this release is just more of the same with
        some
        > much more missing. Are that that quickly appeased by a few HD
        produced
        > shorts?
        > > Rancid.
        > > Scott B.
        > >
        > > Jeff <skintricks@> wrote:
        > > Apemania has all the specs listed for the set. I'm
        not
        > sure if they're the same as what's been listed here previously.
        > >
        > > Jeff B
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 48096 From: scott bosco Date: 8/10/2008
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        Wow, I have a series of slides taken from the one you posted - 24039
        All of Heston from slightly different angles.  I did know they were "Burge" pics.
        Also there is a series of shots like the one of Heston sitting at the desk in the court room as well, only they are 2x2 "square" shots instead of the usual rectangular side format.  I only have a few of those.  It's interesting to learn the history of these things.
        Scott B.

        William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
        i found some more great photos from planet. from william burge


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        Group: pota Message: 48097 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/10/2008
        Subject: The Complete Planet of the Apes Sunday Observer Special
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        Group: pota Message: 48098 From: zasco1957 Date: 8/10/2008
        Subject: Re: Cornelius' Journal
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          James, I wanted to say how much I've enjoyed CORNELIUS' JOURNAL over the months...however, I was upset that he buried his old Journals...why didn't Dr. Milo allow him to take them on the spaceship?  Certainly they couldn't have been any larger than a regular notebook, and of course there's no way that he could retrieve them now...
           
          Zach   
           
          -------Original Message-------
           
          From: James
          Date: 08/08/08 06:13:36
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [pota] Cornelius' Journal
           

          It's Friday again and that means the latest entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now available. 

          To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/files/ CJ.htm

          Have a great weekend everybody!

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          Group: pota Message: 48099 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/10/2008
          Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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          I just sent them an e-mail, so maybe I can find out something about their original work on the Apes films. Obviously, I'll keep you all posted.
           
           
          Chris L.
           
           
           
          "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
           
          >>I believe the company name is "Chace." <<
           
           
          I wrote:
           
          >>Interestingly enough, and internet search for 'Chance Stereo
          Surround' turns
          up absolutely nothing. So maybe there's hope. <<
           
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          Group: pota Message: 48100 From: James Date: 8/11/2008
          Subject: Re: The Complete Planet of the Apes Sunday Observer Special
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          This is really cool Tim. Thanks for passing along.


          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
          >
          > http://notesfromthejunkyard.blogspot.com/2008/08/complete-planet-of-apes-sunday-observer.htmlbr>>

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          Group: pota Message: 48101 From: James Date: 8/11/2008
          Subject: Re: Cornelius' Journal
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          Thanks Zach. Glad that you enjoy the Journal. The decision to have Cornelius bury his original journal was a difficult one. But we felt in order to respect the continunity of the films it had to be done. If Cornelius had brought the journal along in the ship, the authorities would have found it. Since this is not an element of Escape's plot, the journal had to be left behind. So having Cornelius bury it so it could be found by some future archeologist was consistant with his character.


          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
          >
          > James, I wanted to say how much I've enjoyed CORNELIUS' JOURNAL over the
          > months...however, I was upset that he buried his old Journals...why didn't
          > Dr. Milo allow him to take them on the spaceship? Certainly they couldn't
          > have been any larger than a regular notebook, and of course there's no way
          > that he could retrieve them now...
          >
          >
          >
          > Zach
          >
          >

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          Group: pota Message: 48102 From: David Giwner Date: 8/11/2008
          Subject: Fw: [Lost_ABCTV] Season 5 Spoiler (up on ew.com)
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          There is a POTA reference in here. Its a LOST SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          DAVE NYC...

          --- On Thu, 8/7/08, Tucson Skooter <TucsonSkooter@...> wrote:
          From: Tucson Skooter <TucsonSkooter@...>
          Subject: [Lost_ABCTV] Season 5 Spoiler (up on ew.com)
          To: "Lost Yahoo Group" <Lost_ABCTV@yahoogroups.com>
          Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 6:43 PM

          Spoiler Warning, for those that live in the past but not the future!
          For the rest, I expect background intel and theories to start flowing immediately !!!
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          Following article just posted on EW.com at

          http://ausiellofile s.ew.com/ 2008/08/lost- adding-two..htmlxid= email-whattowatc h-20080807- todayslatest- %27Lost%27+ scoop%21+ New+faces+ in+season+ 5

          Production on Lost's fifth season gets underway in 12 days, so that can only mean one thing: Fresh intel is starting to pour in!

          Sources confirm that Team Darlton is looking to introduce two new characters this season - and they're both as mysterious as they are lethal. They're also coming in as recurring players with an option to become series regulars in season 6.

          First up is Caesar, a dangerous, physical and extremely intelligent male between the ages of 35 and 45. Although his intentions are unclear, this much is certain: He's as skillful at charming people as he is at killing them. He also has a dark past, but, c'mon, that much was a given.

          The other newbie is Ilanna, a European female in her late 20s to early 30s who possesses great intelligence, but who's also dangerous as all get out. She's alluring and apparently used to getting her own way.
          What does it all mean?! Don't ask me, ask Jeff Jensen! Better yet, I will:

          "Caesar, eh? My mind immediately links to Planet of the Apes. Caesar was the primate that led his fellow apes in a revolt against their human slavers. So... remember when Ben made that cryptic reference last season to an Other that preceded him in leadership? The "Hostile" who ordered the gassing of the Dharma Initiative, a.k.a. "The Purge"? Assuming that dude ain't Jacob, could he be this "Caesar"? As for Ilanna, she sounds exactly like the kind of lethal lady Sayid would fall for. So I'm wondering if the dashing Iraqi is due for a new love interest, yet another lady whose true motivations will be in question."

          Um... my thoughts exactly! Thanks, Jeff!

          Casting for both roles is just now getting started, so feel free to use the comments section below to state your case for a particular actor/actress. Woo-hoo! Lost (scoop) is back!

          - Skooter

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          Group: pota Message: 48103 From: Dave B Date: 8/12/2008
          Subject: 24 on the POTA
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          I was watching the season 2 (Day 2) DVD box set for '24' which
          features a ridiculous storyline where Jack's daughter Kim finds
          herself lost in the wilderness being stalked by a cougar (Episode 6-7pm).

          As I was shaking my head in despair I thought the scenery looked kind
          of familiar. I know '24' is a Fox show, does anyone know for sure if
          they used 'The ranch' to film these scenes?

          Dave
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          Group: pota Message: 48104 From: Jeff Date: 8/12/2008
          Subject: Planet of the Apes Game
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          Greetings, everyone. I have recently come across a Role Playing Game
          (RPG)called "Terra Primate", which is about intelligent apes, and is
          partially based on Planet of the Apes. I am including a link to a
          review page for the game, in case anyone is interested. Enjoy!

          http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/9/9460..html"

          Jeff (RedSpy)
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          Group: pota Message: 48105 From: zasco1957 Date: 8/13/2008
          Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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            Chris, I do...I had the Playhouse video of BENEATH and I well remember hearing the wind rushing through the tunnel when Brent and Nova touched the ladder.
             
            Zach    
             
            -------Original Message-------
             
            Date: 8/6/2008 12:36:38 AM
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [pota] Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
             

            Rory,
             
            I checked the original VHS version, and there were in fact sounds of the doors being opened and closed during that scene. So that's been removed as well. Someone either at Fox or at Chance Stereo Surround (or both) obviously hate ambient background noise. To go through and tinker with so many different things...
             
            If anyone watches BENEATH, please keep an eye out for other such oddities such as no sound effects where there should be.
             
            BTW, does ANYONE else remember the tunnel scene with Brent and Nova as I described it where you still hear the air whooshing through when they touch the ladder?
             
             
            Chris L.
             
             
             
            I wrote:
             
            >>I'll check out the original version and let you know, but I don't recall those sound effects ever being there. <<
             
             
            "Haristas@aol. com" <Haristas@aol. com> wrote: 
             
            >>OK, I just watched the "Legacy Set" DVD anamorphic transfer of BENEATH, with remixed Dolby 5.1 surround, and the only audio problem I could detect -- and I didn't give it really careful listen -- was that during the scene of the gorillas locking the chimpanzee protestors into the wagon cages, there was no sound of the cage doors being slammed. Can anyone with an older transfer, because I no longer have mine, check and see if the "Foley" effect of wagon doors being slammed was there originally? <<


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            Group: pota Message: 48106 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/13/2008
            Subject: Re: 24 on the POTA
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            Here's a trivia question . . .
            What does the The Vet scene in POTA
            have to do with the Beatles song When I'm 64?
             
             





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            Group: pota Message: 48107 From: Dave B Date: 8/13/2008
            Subject: Brazilian Apes spoof
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            A while back someone posted a link to a Brazilian parody of POTA
            entitled, 'O Trapalhao No Planalto Dos Macacos'.

            In case anyone is curious I've created a folder in the Files section
            (O TRAPALHAO) with some screen grabs.

            Kind of makes 'Time of the Apes' look like it was filmed by David
            Lean! :0)

            Dave
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            Group: pota Message: 48108 From: James Date: 8/13/2008
            Subject: Re: Brazilian Apes spoof
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            Thanks Dave. Here's the direct link to the folder: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/O%20TRAPALHAO/


            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
            >
            > A while back someone posted a link to a Brazilian parody of POTA
            > entitled, 'O Trapalhao No Planalto Dos Macacos'.
            >
            > In case anyone is curious I've created a folder in the Files section
            > (O TRAPALHAO) with some screen grabs.
            >
            > Kind of makes 'Time of the Apes' look like it was filmed by David
            > Lean! :0)
            >
            > Dave
            >

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            Group: pota Message: 48109 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 8/13/2008
            Subject: Birthday Reminder
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            Group: pota Message: 48110 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 8/14/2008
            Subject: Message from POTA UK Chat Forum
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            From: tk0282@...
             
            I have recently set up a Chat Forum here in the UK regarding Planet of the Apes, our hope is to make the forum a fun place for like minded people who are fans of the Movie to chat and discuss about all things POTA, we are very new and a member base is very low but building slowly.
             
            In the future we are also hoping to have costumed members attend events and conventions similar to Apemania.com in the US.
             
            Infact we have contacted Apemania in the hope that we can become the UK counterpart and eventually run under their banner.
             
            I have added the Link to our Forum in the hope that you may pass the information on in one of your news letters and perhaps you would care to sign up and join in the fun and chat too.
             
            we would be more than happy to also promote your magazine on the forum and i believe we could work together quite well.
             
            I hope very much that you may be able to help and perhaps even see you on the forum for a chat.
             
            Many thanks for your time
             
            Simon
             
            here is the link
             
             
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            Group: pota Message: 48111 From: Rob Reading Date: 8/14/2008
            Subject: US Panet of the Apes comics
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            Could anyone tell me if there are any interesting photo features in the
            issue numbers 27 and 28, especially to do with the tv series?

            Rob R
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            Group: pota Message: 48112 From: Robert Mansell Date: 8/14/2008
            Subject: Reinsertion of Footage Question....
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            Well it was certainly a can of worms that got opened with the recent Blu-Ray discussions and just for the record I won't be moving to that format unless my DVD player breaks down, which only cost me £50 ($100) for a top spec Sony player...
             
            Now with regards to extra footage and instering it into the original cuts, now this is something that annoys me as now films are made with this in mind for with alernate endings and larger scenes. I would like to see certain things in the original POTA such as Nova's pregnancy but I think this should be an extra if the footage exists as it would alter the course of the folowing films.
             
            However are people aware that the lost part of Metropolis has now been found and we can expect it to be restores to it's original cut in time. Think it was located in South America somewhere but this is perhaps the biggest missing film to be found, ever........
             
            Robert Mansell
             
             

             
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            Group: pota Message: 48113 From: scott bosco Date: 8/14/2008
            Subject: Re: Reinsertion of Footage Question....
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            Yes, I heard about METROPOLIS; and according to someone I know they said there is a company trying to get the rights to start a restoration and then DVD release.  In fact I think it might even be KINO who did the last release.
            Hope so.
            - Scott B.

            Robert Mansell <robert.mansell@...> wrote:
            Well it was certainly a can of worms that got opened with the recent Blu-Ray discussions and just for the record I won't be moving to that format unless my DVD player breaks down, which only cost me £50 ($100) for a top spec Sony player...
             
            Now with regards to extra footage and instering it into the original cuts, now this is something that annoys me as now films are made with this in mind for with alernate endings and larger scenes. I would like to see certain things in the original POTA such as Nova's pregnancy but I think this should be an extra if the footage exists as it would alter the course of the folowing films.
             
            However are people aware that the lost part of Metropolis has now been found and we can expect it to be restores to it's original cut in time. Think it was located in South America somewhere but this is perhaps the biggest missing film to be found, ever........
             
            Robert Mansell
             
             

             

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            Group: pota Message: 48114 From: Dave B Date: 8/14/2008
            Subject: Re: US Panet of the Apes comics
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            Hey Rob,

            Issue 27 features a photo article on how to walk like an ape courtesy
            of Bill Blake and Paula Crist.

            Issue 28 features 'Profiles of the Future' a look at conflict and
            characterization. There's a couple of nice images - Cornelius in his
            20th century human suit and an image of a gorilla I don't recognise (a
            costume test?)

            Nothing for the TV show anywhere to be seen.

            Dave



            --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Reading" <readingrob@...> wrote:
            >
            > Could anyone tell me if there are any interesting photo features in the
            > issue numbers 27 and 28, especially to do with the tv series?
            >
            > Rob R
            >
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            Group: pota Message: 48115 From: rob reading Date: 8/14/2008
            Subject: Re: US Panet of the Apes comics
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            .html Cheers for the info Dave.
             
            Rob




            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            From: smugster2000@...
            Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:38:22 +0000
            Subject: [pota] Re: US Panet of the Apes comics


            Hey Rob,

            Issue 27 features a photo article on how to walk like an ape courtesy
            of Bill Blake and Paula Crist.

            Issue 28 features 'Profiles of the Future' a look at conflict and
            characterization. There's a couple of nice images - Cornelius in his
            20th century human suit and an image of a gorilla I don't recognise (a
            costume test?)

            Nothing for the TV show anywhere to be seen.

            Dave

            --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Rob Reading" <readingrob@ ...> wrote:
            >
            > Could anyone tell me if there are any interesting photo features in the
            > issue numbers 27 and 28, especially to do with the tv series?
            >
            > Rob R
            >




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            Group: pota Message: 48116 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/14/2008
            Subject: POTA (& KONG) on the screen in El Paso, TEXAS!
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            Group: pota Message: 48117 From: James Date: 8/15/2008
            Subject: Cornelius' Journal
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            Happy Friday everyone! The latest entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now available. There are only two more entries after this one.

            To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm

            Have a great weekend everybody!

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            Group: pota Message: 48118 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/15/2008
            Subject: FAKE news item from the net!
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            BUSH UNVEILS NEW PLAN IN IRAQ: PRIMATE WARFARE

            With the war in Iraq closing in on 7 years and thousands of casualties, the Pentagon is looking for new, inventive ideas to employ on the urban-desert battlefield. Operation Monkey Business may be exactly what the war in Iraq needs. "New wars require new tactics," Said pentagon spokesmen James Farnuk, "and this tactic is pure gold."

            The tactic Farnuk is referring to is the new plan unveiled today to train and arm 5500 monkeys, apes, and chimps for peacekeeping operations in the Iraq theater.

            "This may sound slightly crazy," Farnuk said at a Pentagon press release, "But these primates are exactly what the war needs. They cannot speak English, so we don't have to hear them whining about how they'd like to have ceramic plates in their body armor. They're used to living in a zoo or a jungle so housing them will be easy. And they've got opposable thumbs on their hands and their feet. Think about it: the average foot soldier only has two limbs that can fire weapons. These buggers have four. Guns on their hands. Guns on their feet. These guys are bristling death!"

            "Hannibal used elephants to great success, but this may be a tactic of a new order. Giving monkeys guns and grenades is radically different from using pachyderms to cross mountains." Said Col. Devin LaBrie of Army Special Ops command. "These primates are not bound by the Geneva Convention which only applies to humans. Plus, they are ultra aggressive when we starve them for several days. Anyone that makes eye contact with these chimps is gonna get a bullet in the brain, or any other place these monkeys can hit!"

            The new plan was devised by the commander-in-chief after a late night viewing of Planet of the Apes.

            "I never realized how ruthless apes can be until I saw Charlton Heston being man-handled by those dirty apes. It was terrifying to watch how vicious they could be!" Bush said in a press conference on Monday. "I knew any ape that could handle a man like Heston would be a great soldier in Iraq. I got on the horn immediately to try and find out what happened to the apes in that movie. Were they executed for their crimes against humanity? No one seems to know where they went. But I'm sure if we round up enough apes we'll get some of their descendants in the mix. They come from good stock. Tough fighters. Kinda creep though, apes talking like men and wearing man-clothes, but that may be what we need. Bloodthirsty, smart apes that can speak perfect English. This is going to be the turning point of the war!" Bush said with unbridled enthusiasm.

            The plan, however, is being criticized by animal rights groups that feel this would be placing primates in a difficult situation. "My God, these are peaceful creatures not tools of war!" Said Emily Smith of PETA. "They know nothing of war or killing or even how to load a gun and the US military wants to use them as pawns to attack other humans. This is atrocious. How will the apes be compensated-in bananas? What about access to health care on the battlefield? The hot sand will burn their tender foot pads. Who knows how to treat an ape on the battlefield? This plan is not sound."

            The president, however, seems unperturbed by the critics.

            "This plan rules. Once those apes touch down in Iraq they will be killing machines. No mercy, just chimps enslaving the terrorists and parading them around in leg irons and neck chains. This will be my greatest success. Apes in Iraq is going to totally rock!"

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            Group: pota Message: 48119 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/16/2008
            Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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            Out of curiosity, do you remember it from TV viewings or did you have the Magnetic Video version as well?
             
            It just strikes me as funny that the only Home Video version of BENEATH as it appeared in the theaters is on a 30 year old VHS tapes.
             
            Chris L.
             
             
             
            "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
             
            >>Chris, I do...I had the Playhouse video of BENEATH and I well
            remember
            hearing the wind rushing through the tunnel when Brent and Nova touched the ladder.<<<.html

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            Group: pota Message: 48120 From: scott bosco Date: 8/16/2008
            Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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            I still might have the audio tape of the first time CBS televised it.  I will check.
            - Scott B.

            Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
            Out of curiosity, do you remember it from TV viewings or did you have the Magnetic Video version as well?
             
            It just strikes me as funny that the only Home Video version of BENEATH as it appeared in the theaters is on a 30 year old VHS tapes.
             
            Chris L.
             
             
             
            "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote:
             
            >>Chris, I do...I had the Playhouse video of BENEATH and I well remember
            hearing the wind rushing through the tunnel when Brent and Nova touched the ladder.<<


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            Group: pota Message: 48121 From: Mark Date: 8/16/2008
            Subject: Deleted POTA scene?
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            Is this one of the deleted POTA scenes you are talking about?

            http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n229/horrorhosty/?action=view¤t=Ape.flv
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            Group: pota Message: 48122 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/16/2008
            Subject: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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            Received a very quick response back someone at Chace. He couldn't give me specifics- past the fact that they had worked on different Apes projects for Fox over the years- because of client confidentiality. However he did give me the direct e-mail of someone at Fox who is working on the audio aspects of the Blu-ray set, and as far as I'm concerned this was even a step further than the person I had previously been in touch with who said that he would pass my concerns along to the audio department. At any rate, I heard back from the new guy at Fox the day after I wrote to him, and he mentioned to me that they had compared the stereo mixes to the original dialogue/music/effects stems (and the elements which will be used in the upcoming set) and they did find several differences in the effects track. Regardless, he asked me to send my list of specific problems (which I did right away), so now I know for a fact that the information is in the right hands. Remains to be seen what ultimately happens, but at least the right people are aware of the problems now.
             
            One thing he mentioned had me curious though:
             
            "The previous standard-definition collection (released in '06),
            which included BENEATH used a 5.1 mix which was created from the
            original materials, so that mix should have corrected the issue."
             
             
            I'm not set up for 5.1, so if there's two different audio tracks on the Legacy Edition then I haven't heard the 5.1. Could someone who has a Dolby sound system set up give the DVD a listen and see if the problems are still there or if they were corrected? Because on the Legacy version I've seen/heard, the problems are still there.
             
            I also took the opportunity to ask/make a few questions/suggestions, including the NATO spot for BENEATH, which version of BATTLE will be released, including both trailers and TV spots for all five films, using the original movie posters as DVD covers instead of the spoiler covers/characters on the cover that aren't even in the respective films their face appears on, and some of the conceptual artwork like what was included in the Malibu Comics BENEATH graphic novel. Being that my questions could have easily turned into a Q&A at a Comic Con panel, I limited myself.
             
            Again, I'll keep you all posted. Nice to at least be making some headway though.
             
             
            Chris L.
             
             
             
            I wrote:
             
            >>Yep:
            href="http://www.chace.com/">http://www.chace.com/
             
            I just sent them an e-mail, so maybe I can find out something about their original work on the Apes films. Obviously, I'll keep you all posted. <<
             
             
            "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
             
            >>I believe the company name is "Chace." <<
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            Group: pota Message: 48123 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2008
            Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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            "The previous standard-definition collection (released in '06),
            which included BENEATH used a 5.1 mix which was created from the
            original materials, so that mix should have corrected the issue."
            I'm not set up for 5.1, so if there's two different audio tracks on the Legacy Edition then I haven't heard the 5.1. Could someone who has a Dolby sound system set up give the DVD a listen and see if the problems are still there or if they were corrected? Because on the Legacy version I've seen/heard, the problems are still there.
            I have Dolby Digital 5.1 and the answer is "NO!"

            The stuff that's still missing in BENEATH's analog tracks is also missing in 5.1 (in the '06 "Legacy" transfers).

            Tell this person to specifically check the scenes you know about.

            Also, from what I can tell, all the sequels are very much "expanded mono." The music in each sequel (all of which were originally mono films), that have stereo masters (many of which have been released on CD), are not in true stereo. The music is expanded mono.

            Since these Blu-ray discs will sport isolated scores in 5.1 Dolby Digital, I'll assume they'll use whatever true stereo masters20they have.

            A final word about PLANET.... This movie was originally prepared for a 4-track (center, right and left front channels, plus mono surround) magnetic stereo surround release, but because DR. DOLITTLE was bombing big time jut prior to PLANET's release, APJAC only distributed mono (optical) prints (including premiere theatres). The original stereo tracks were then lost. I've never, ever read that they were found, so I therefore believe what we have on DVD (in both Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS) is a "reconstruction" of the original stereo. The music in this latest version (the '04 35th Anniversary edition transfer) is true stereo and the sound effects no longer have that fake stereo taint -- far superior to the previous Chase efforts. (The Dolby Digital 5.1 actually has better separation (expansion) than the DTS.) However, I still think the Goldsmith score has been mixed at too low a level. I remember that the music used to dominated the soundtrack. Now, sound effects are more clearly heard, but at the expense of the score. (Check out the scene right after the hunt and where we first see Ape City and the surgery. Goldsmith's score is almost buried.)

            Ask this guy at Fox he can say anything about what is and isn't truly stereo, and congratulations for making contact!

            -- Rory





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            Group: pota Message: 48124 From: Jeff Date: 8/16/2008
            Subject: Re: Deleted POTA scene?
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            NO...you made me sit through that.  In the original video he spoke (or tried to) and couldn't understand a single word.
             
             
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Mark
            Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 10:13 AM
            Subject: [pota] Deleted POTA scene?

            Is this one of the deleted POTA scenes you are talking about?

            http://s113. photobucket. com/albums/ n229/horrorhosty /?action= view&current= Ape.flv

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            Group: pota Message: 48125 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/16/2008
            Subject: Genesis
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            http://www.productionweekly.com/

            On this page which is a teaser for a publication called "production Weekly" is a list of current features in the making....

            On the first list in alphabetical order is "Planet of the Apes: Genesis"!!

            Anyone have any idea what this is about?????
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            Group: pota Message: 48126 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2008
            Subject: Re: Genesis
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            http://www.producti onweekly. com/

            On this page which is a teaser for a publication called "production Weekly" is a list of current features in the making....

            On the first list in alphabetical order is "Planet of the Apes: Genesis"!!

            Anyone have any idea what this is about?????
            I don't know for sure, but I did post something months ago about how Fox was looking for a director to do a prequel to POTA 2001, so maybe such a thing is in the early stages of development at Fox?


            -- Rory
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            Group: pota Message: 48127 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/16/2008
            Subject: Re: Genesis
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            If I don't expect much, perhaps I won't be so devastated.  They always are yanking my chain, though...

            On 8/16/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:


            http://www.productionweekly.com/

            On this page which is a teaser for a publication called "production Weekly" is a list of current features in the making....

            On the first list in alphabetical order is "Planet of the Apes: Genesis"!!

            Anyone have any idea what this is about?????
            I don't know for sure, but I did post something months ago about how Fox was looking for a director to do a prequel to POTA 2001, so maybe such a thing is in the early stages of development at Fox?


            -- Rory

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            Group: pota Message: 48128 From: scott bosco Date: 8/16/2008
            Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
            .html
            Chris,
            I just check BENEATH from the Legacy set in all sound formats.
            The "wind' sound effect as Brent and Nova are about to enter the circular tunnels is missing from  the English MONO and 5.1 mix, as well as the French MONO.
             
            The "clanging" of the wagon cage doors closing on the chimps at the protest march is missing from both the English MONO and the 5.1 mixes.  However, it is heard in the French MONO mix!
             
            Hopes this helps.  tomorrow I will try to dig up my audio recording of BENEATH on cassette from the CBS airing.
             
            All this is very interesting.  As I stated in a previous post when I was consultanted on the Playhouse releases and the problem of the sound being off in BENEATH during the burning Lawgiver statue they had to go back and lift the soundeffects from a Spanish sound mix to correct that scene.  It was corrected but there was never a re-call or announcement made.  I find it interesting that the French mix on the DVD as at least one of the missing sound effects.
            - Scott B.

            Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
            Received a very quick response back someone at Chace. He couldn't give me specifics- past the fact that they had worked on different Apes projects for Fox over the years- because of client confidentiality. However he did give me the direct e-mail of someone at Fox who is working on the audio aspects of the Blu-ray set, and as far as I'm concerned this was even a step further than the person I had previously been in touch with who said that he would pass my concerns along to the audio department. At any rate, I heard back from the new guy at Fox the day after I wrote to him, and he mentioned to me that they had compared the stereo mixes to the original dialogue/music/ effects stems (and the elements which will be used in the upcoming set) and they did find several differences in the effects track. Regardless, he asked me to send my list of specific problems (which I did right away), so now I know for a fact that the information is in the right hands. Remains to be seen what ultimately happens, but at least the right people are aware of the problems now.
             
            One thing he mentioned had me curious though:
             
            "The previous standard-definition collection (released in '06),
            which included BENEATH used a 5.1 mix which was created from the
            original materials, so that mix should have corrected the issue."
             
             
            I'm not set up for 5.1, so if there's two different audio tracks on the Legacy Edition then I haven't heard the 5.1. Could someone who has a Dolby sound system set up give the DVD a listen and see if the problems are still there or if they were corrected? Because on the Legacy version I've seen/heard, the problems are still there.
             
            I also took the opportunity to ask/make a few questions/suggestio ns, including the NATO spot for BENEATH, which version of BATTLE will be released, including both trailers and TV spots for all five films, using the original movie posters as DVD covers instead of the spoiler covers/characters on the cover that aren't even in the respective films their face appears on, and some of the conceptual artwork like what was included in the Malibu Comics BENEATH graphic novel. Being that my questions could have easily turned into a Q&A at a Comic Con panel, I limited myself.
             
            Again, I'll keep you all posted. Nice to at least be making some headway though.
             
             
            Chris L.
             
             
             
            I wrote:
             
             
            I just sent them an e-mail, so maybe I can find out something about their original work on the Apes films. Obviously, I'll keep you all posted. <<
             
             
            "Haristas@aol. com" <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:
             
            >>I believe the company name is "Chace." <<


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            Group: pota Message: 48129 From: zasco1957 Date: 8/17/2008
            Subject: Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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              I just had the Playhouse video version at one time.  I believe that I'd had that version until I was able to purchase the DVD boxed set in the late summer of 2002.
               
              Zach 
               
              -------Original Message-------
               
              Date: 8/16/2008 8:26:51 AM
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
               

              I still might have the audio tape of the first time CBS televised it.  I will check.
              - Scott B.

              Chris Lawless <lawford42@juno. com> wrote:
              Out of curiosity, do you remember it from TV viewings or did you have the Magnetic Video version as well?
               
              It just strikes me as funny that the only Home Video version of BENEATH as it appeared in the theaters is on a 30 year old VHS tapes.
               
              Chris L.
               
               
               
              "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote:
               
              >>Chris, I do...I had the Playhouse video of BENEATH and I well remember
              hearing the wind rushing through the tunnel when Brent and Nova touched the ladder.<<


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              Group: pota Message: 48130 From: Bob Date: 8/17/2008
              Subject: Re: Genesis
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              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
              >
              >
              >
              > http://www.productionweekly.com/
              >
              >
              >
              > On this page which is a teaser for a publication called "production
              Weekly" is a list of current features in the making....
              >
              >
              >
              > On the first list in alphabetical order is "Planet of the Apes:
              Genesis"!!
              >
              >
              >
              > Anyone have any idea what this is about?????
              > I don't know for sure, but I did post something months ago about
              how Fox was looking for a director to do a prequel to POTA 2001, so
              maybe such a thing is in the early stages of development at Fox?
              >
              >
              > -- Rory
              >


              All it really has on Production Weekly for POTA: Genesis is that it's
              in development, producers are Richard Zanuk & Ralph Winter and the
              Director is listed as Scott Frank. Only other info is that it's
              about: "the origins of how the Apes took over the Earth"
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              Group: pota Message: 48131 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2008
              Subject: Re: Genesis
              .html
              Genesis? Genesis? What is Genesis?

              I feel like Bones in "Star Trek II."

              Anyway, if this is going to be a movie, I guess it'll be about how apes rose to subjugate (if that's the right word) mankind.

              We know how the Boulle book told it, and how CONQUEST showed it, but I expect this will be some new scenario, hopefully one more scientifically plausible, but with Hollywood movies don't count on it.

              Anyone got ideas on how they'll tell this story -- if that's what they're doing?

              -- Rory


              -----Original Message-----
              From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 8:03 pm
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Genesis

              If I don't expect much, perhaps I won't be so devastated. They always are yanking my chain, though...

              On 8/16/08, Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:

              http://www.producti onweekly. com/

              On this page which is a teaser for a publication called "production Weekly" is a list of current features in the making....

              On the first list in alphabetical order is "Planet of the Apes: Genesis"!!

              Anyone have any idea what this is about?????
              I don't know for sure, but I did post something months ago about how Fox was looking for a director to do a prequel to POTA 2001, so maybe such a thing is in the early stages of development at Fox?


              -- Rory

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              Group: pota Message: 48132 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2008
              Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
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              The "clanging" of the wagon cage doors closing on the chimps at the protest march is missing from both the English MONO and the 5.1 mixes. However, it is heard in the French MONO mix!
              All this is very interesting. As I stated in a previous post when I was consultanted on the Playhouse releases and the problem of the sound being off in BENEATH during the burning Lawgiver statue they had to go back and lift the soundeffects from a Spanish sound mix to correct that scene. It was corrected but there was never a re-call or announcement made. I find it interesting that the French mix on the DVD as at least one of the missing sound effects.
              - Scott B.
              Yes, it is very interesting. Seems to me the situation with BENEATH's soundtrack is a mess!

              I'd let the guy at Fox in charge of this know at once, Chris! Hopefully there's still time for them to fix it, however I'll bet you right now the same problems will persist.

              -- Rory



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              Group: pota Message: 48133 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2008
              Subject: Re: Genesis
              .html
              All it really has on Production Weekly for POTA: Genesis is that it's
              in development, producers are Richard Zanuk & Ralph Winter and the
              Director is listed as Scott Frank. Only other info is that it's
              about: "the origins of how the Apes took over the Earth"

              Yeah, that's what I figured, but I'll bet you this gets made, probably for a 2010 release. It'll be on the level as those AVP films Fox has done, not quite "direct-to-dvd," but not exactly "A" picture level. A modern "B" movie, which is really what all the original sequels were too.

              I just looked up this Scott Frank on IMDB. Info is as follows:

              Date of Birth
              10 March 1960

              Brother-in-law of director Phil Joanou, who directed Frank's teleplay 'Dead End for Delia' instal lment of Showtime's television noir anthology,"Fallen Angels" (1993). Frank also wrote the screenplay for Joanou's 1996 feature, Heaven's Prisoners (1996).

              Alumnus of University of California-Santa Barbara; Film Studies Dept.

              Writer:
              1. Marley & Me (2008) (post-production) (screenplay)

              2. The Lookout (2007) (written by)
              3. The Interpreter (2005) (screenplay)
                ... aka Interprète, L' (France)
              4. Flight of the Phoenix (2004) (screenplay)
              5. "Karen Sisco" (1 episode, 2004)
                - He Was a Friend of Mine (2004) TV episode (characters)
              6. Minority Report (2002) (screenplay)

              7. Out of Sight (1998) (screenplay)
              8. Heaven's Prisoners (1996) (screenplay)
              9. Get Shorty (1995) (screenplay)
              10. Malice (1993) (screenplay)
              11. "Fallen Angels" (1 episode, 1993)
                - Dead End for Delia (1993) TV episode (teleplay)
              12. Little Man Tate (1991) (written by)
              13. Dead Again (1991) (written by)
              14. The Walter Ego (1991) (writer)

              15. Plain Clothes (1988) (story) (as A. Scott Frank) (writer) (as A. Scott Frank)
              16. "The Wonder Years" (1 episode, 1988)
                - The Phone Call (1988) TV episode (writer)
              Actor:
              1. Minority Report (2002) .... Conceited Customer
              Second Unit Director or Assistant Director:
              1. Minority Report (2002) (second unit director) (uncredited)
              Producer:
              1. The Caveman's Valentine (2001) (producer)
                ... aka The Sign of the Killer (UK: video title)
              Thanks:
              1. Inside 'Out of Sight' (1998) (V) (special thanks)
              2. Sydney (1996) (special thanks)
                ... aka Hard Eight (USA: new title)
              Self:
              1. Get Shorty: Look at Me (2005) (V) .... Himself
              2. Get Shorty: Wiseguys and Dolls (2005) (V) .... Himself
              3. 'Minority Report': The Story, the Debate (2002) (V) .... Himself
              4. Sundance 20 (2002) .... Himself

              5. Inside 'Out of Sight' (1998) (V) .... Himself

              Additional Details

              Other Works:
              The October 3, 2001 draft of the screenplay for The Ring (2002) lists Scott Frank as a writer. He is not credited in the final film. more



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              Group: pota Message: 48134 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/17/2008
              Subject: Re: Genesis
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              Interesting.....ANd this is an updated production calender....No cast?? maybe it's animated???no release date??


              --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Bob <unabob@...> wrote:

              > From: Bob <unabob@...>
              > Subject: [pota] Re: Genesis
              > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              > Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 1:20 AM
              > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > http://www.productionweekly.com/
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > On this page which is a teaser for a publication
              > called "production
              > Weekly" is a list of current features in the
              > making....
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > On the first list in alphabetical order is
              > "Planet of the Apes:
              > Genesis"!!
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > Anyone have any idea what this is about?????
              > > I don't know for sure, but I did post something
              > months ago about
              > how Fox was looking for a director to do a prequel to POTA
              > 2001, so
              > maybe such a thing is in the early stages of development at
              > Fox?
              > >
              > >
              > > -- Rory
              > >
              >
              >
              > All it really has on Production Weekly for POTA: Genesis is
              > that it's
              > in development, producers are Richard Zanuk & Ralph
              > Winter and the
              > Director is listed as Scott Frank. Only other info is that
              > it's
              > about: "the origins of how the Apes took over the
              > Earth"
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              Group: pota Message: 48135 From: scott bosco Date: 8/17/2008
              Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH
              .html
              Chris,
              I can't seem to find my audio cassette recording of the CBS airing of BENEATH (I found CONQUEST BATTLE but not the others!)
              I will keep looking.
              Sorry.
              - Scott B.

              scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
              Chris,
              I just check BENEATH from the Legacy set in all sound formats.
              The "wind' sound effect as Brent and Nova are about to enter the circular tunnels is missing from  the English MONO and 5.1 mix, as well as the French MONO.
               
              The "clanging" of the wagon cage doors closing on the chimps at the protest march is missing from both the English MONO and the 5.1 mixes.  However, it is heard in the French MONO mix!
               
              Hopes this helps.  tomorrow I will try to dig up my audio recording of BENEATH on cassette from the CBS airing.
               
              All this is very interesting.  As I stated in a previous post when I was consultanted on the Playhouse releases and the problem of the sound being off in BENEATH during the burning Lawgiver statue they had to go back and lift the soundeffects from a Spanish sound mix to correct that scene.  It was corrected but there was never a re-call or announcement made.  I find it interesting that the French mix on the DVD as at least one of the missing sound effects.
              - Scott B.

              Chris Lawless <lawford42@juno. com> wrote:
              Received a very quick response back someone at Chace. He couldn't give me specifics- past the fact that they had worked on different Apes projects for Fox over the years- because of client confidentiality. However he did give me the direct e-mail of someone at Fox who is working on the audio aspects of the Blu-ray set, and as far as I'm concerned this was even a step further than the person I had previously been in touch with who said that he would pass my concerns along to the audio department. At any rate, I heard back from the new guy at Fox the day after I wrote to him, and he mentioned to me that they had compared the stereo mixes to the original dialogue/music/ effects stems (and the elements which will be used in the upcoming set) and they did find several differences in the effects track. Regardless, he asked me to send my list of specific problems (which I did right away), so now I know for a fact that the information is in the right hands. Remains to be seen what ultimately happens, but at least the right people are aware of the problems now.
               
              One thing he mentioned had me curious though:
               
              "The previous standard-definition collection (released in '06),
              which included BENEATH used a 5.1 mix which was created from the
              original materials, so that mix should have corrected the issue."
               
               
              I'm not set up for 5.1, so if there's two different audio tracks on the Legacy Edition then I haven't heard the 5.1. Could someone who has a Dolby sound system set up give the DVD a listen and see if the problems are still there or if they were corrected? Because on the Legacy version I've seen/heard, the problems are still there.
               
              I also took the opportunity to ask/make a few questions/suggestio ns, including the NATO spot for BENEATH, which version of BATTLE will be released, including both trailers and TV spots for all five films, using the original movie posters as DVD covers instead of the spoiler covers/characters on the cover that aren't even in the respective films their face appears on, and some of the conceptual artwork like what was included in the Malibu Comics BENEATH graphic novel. Being that my questions could have easily turned into a Q&A at a Comic Con panel, I limited myself.
               
              Again, I'll keep you all posted. Nice to at least be making some headway though.
               
               
              Chris L.
               
               
               
              I wrote:
               
               
              I just sent them an e-mail, so maybe I can find out something about their original work on the Apes films. Obviously, I'll keep you all posted. <<
               
               
              "Haristas@aol. com" <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:
               
              >>I believe the company name is "Chace." <<


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              Group: pota Message: 48136 From: drhasslein Date: 8/17/2008
              Subject: Re: Genesis
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              The Lookout was a pretty good film. Maybe there is hope.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
              >
              >
              >
              > All it really has on Production Weekly for POTA: Genesis is that
              it's
              >
              > in development, producers are Richard Zanuk & Ralph Winter and the
              >
              > Director is listed as Scott Frank. Only other info is that it's
              >
              > about: "the origins of how the Apes took over the Earth"
              >
              > Yeah, that's what I figured, but I'll bet you this gets made,
              probably for a 2010 release. Â It'll be on the level as those AVP
              films Fox has done, not quite "direct-to-dvd," but not exactly "A"
              picture level. Â A modern "B" movie, which is really what all the
              original sequels were too.
              >
              >
              >
              > I just looked up this Scott Frank on IMDB. Â Info is as follows:
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Date of Birth
              > 10 March 1960 Â
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Brother-in-law of director Phil Joanou, who directed Frank's
              teleplay 'Dead End for Delia' installment of Showtime's television
              noir anthology,"Fallen Angels"Â (1993). Frank also wrote the
              screenplay for Joanou's 1996 feature, Heaven's Prisoners (1996).
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Alumnus of University of California-Santa Barbara; Film Studies
              Dept.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Writer:
              >
              >
              > In Production
              >
              > 2000s
              >
              > 1990s
              >
              > 1980s
              >
              >
              >
              > Marley & Me (2008) (post-production) (screenplay)Â
              >
              >
              >
              > The Lookout (2007) (written by)
              >
              > The Interpreter (2005) (screenplay)Â
              > ... aka Interprète, L' (France)
              >
              > Flight of the Phoenix (2004) (screenplay)
              >
              > "Karen Sisco"Â (1 episode, 2004)
              >     - He Was a Friend of Mine (2004) TV episode (characters)
              >
              > Minority Report (2002) (screenplay)Â
              >
              >
              >
              > Out of Sight (1998) (
              > screenplay)
              >
              > Heaven's Prisoners (1996) (screenplay)
              >
              > Get Shorty (1995) (screenplay)
              >
              > Malice (1993) (screenplay)
              >
              > "Fallen Angels"Â (1 episode, 1993)
              >     - Dead End for Delia (1993) TV episode (teleplay)
              >
              > Little Man Tate (1991) (written by)
              >
              > Dead Again (1991) (written by)
              >
              > The Walter Ego (1991) (writer)Â
              >
              >
              >
              > Plain Clothes (1988) (story) (as A. Scott Frank) (writer) (as A.
              Scott Frank)
              >
              > "The Wonder Years"Â (1 episode, 1988)
              >     - The Phone Call (1988) TV episode (writer)Â
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Director:
              >
              >
              > The Lookout (2007)Â
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Actor:
              >
              >
              > Minority Report (2002) .... Conceited CustomerÂ
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Second Unit Director or Assistant Director:
              >
              >
              > Minority Report (2002) (second unit director) (uncredited)Â
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Producer:
              >
              >
              > The Caveman's Valentine (2001) (producer)Â
              > ... aka The Sign of the Killer (UK: video title)Â
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Thanks:
              >
              >
              > Inside 'Out of Sight'Â (1998) (V) (special thanks)
              >
              > Sydney (1996) (special thanks)Â
              > ... aka Hard Eight (USA: new title)Â
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Self:
              >
              >
              > 2000s
              >
              > 1990s
              >
              >
              >
              > Get Shorty: Look at Me (2005) (V) .... Himself
              >
              > Get Shorty: Wiseguys and Dolls (2005) (V) .... Himself
              >
              > 'Minority Report': The Story, the Debate (2002) (V) .... Himself
              >
              > Sundance 20Â (2002) .... HimselfÂ
              >
              >
              >
              > Inside 'Out of Sight'Â (1998) (V) .... HimselfÂ
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Additional Details
              >
              >
              > Other Works:
              > The October 3, 2001 draft of the screenplay for The Ring (2002)
              lists Sc
              > ott Frank as a writer. He is not credited in the final film. more
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 48137 From: drhasslein Date: 8/18/2008
              Subject: Re: Genesis
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              I thought at first this was an Arthur C. Clarke reference. (2001, 2010)

              I just pray to God it's not Thade arriving on earth, and the "genesis"
              of his takeover of earth resulting in the end of POTA2K1.

              Remember, Fox told the guys at Mr. Comics, they could write anything
              pertaining to classic apes, but nothing in regard to Burton's.

              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Yeah, that's what I figured, but I'll bet you this gets made,
              probably for a 2010 release.
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              Group: pota Message: 48139 From: m c Date: 8/19/2008
              Subject: Re: Genesis
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              --- On Sun, 8/17/08, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:
              From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Genesis
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 2:49 PM

              Interesting.....And this is an updated production calender....No cast?? maybe
              it's animated??? No release date??
              
              *** The part of having no release date is good and bad... Good in the sense that they're not gonna have to throw it together just to make their "planned release date" like they did with that Burton film...
              Bad in the sense that no planned release date often means the idea gets scrapped or delayed over & over... I just don't see it getting off the ground... ***
              

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