Happy Friday everyone! This week's installment of THE ILLUSTRATED MONKEY PLANET is now available. Thanks again to Dave Ballard.

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Also, to make space in the Group's Files section the six Program Booklets have been moved to the Downloads page of the Group Website: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Downloads.htm, many pics have been moved over to the Group's Photos section. Let me know if you any have trouble tracking down a pic that you uploaded.  

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*** Yes, but the isolated score wouldn't be the complete score to the film... "Milo's death" will be absent... ***

That may or may not be true! I'm not sure exactly what Fox is going to do. For instance, the "Crash Landing" cue in PLANET has more to it on CD than what's in the film. If I were in charge of this, I'd put the entire cue on the DVD. Most probably Fox won't do it, but maybe they will. Same thing with BENEATH. Also, what about the "Preview Version" of CONQUEST? The movie has more score than the final edited version. Will all that be isolated too?

-- Rory

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The `Beneath' cover in particular is a stand-out, the Zaius re-creation is spookily accurate. I'm still not 100% convinced
that isn't Maurice Evans!

I meant to comment on this before.... Look at Zaius' inner sleeve at the bottom of the cover. It's the chimpanzee "canvas-like thingie" sleeve. The orangutans had brown tunics under their coats that came to a plain cuff at the wrist. So much for these "recreations" being spookily accurate.

-- Rory

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It's special interest groups like Apemania that keep APES alive and well.

Really? Are you sure that's true?

-- Rory

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THought this was cool.....

and with gas stations running out of gas everywhere.. .(I went to thirteen different stations today before I found one that had gas!).....seems it's time for The ROad Warrior to set about on his rounds!

http://mine. myxer.com/ 2008/09/24/ t-shirt-celebrat es-sci-fi- post-apocalyptic -classics/

Yeah, that is pretty cool. Don't think I'll order one though.

Anyway... where are you located? I now live in NC near Asheville and we're having the same problem here.

I don't know, but the news these days.... hell, just blow up the world already! The older I get, the sicker I am of everything!

-- Rory

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I forget the name of the man who designed the logo.

Was it Ed Benguiat

Dave B

No, I think it was Max something. I have that House Industries book someplace...

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I forget the name of the man who designed the logo.
>
>
>
> Was it Ed Benguiat
>
>
>
> Dave B
> No, I think it was Max something. Â I have that House Industries book someplace...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> It's special interest groups like Apemania that keep APES alive and well.
> Really? Â Are you sure that's true?
>
>
>
> -- Rory
>

Yes, Ed Benguiat.

OK, yes, you're right.... me wrong.

Ed Benguiat

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ed Benguiat (born Ephram Edward Benguiat, October 27, 1927) is an influential American typographer. He has crafted over 600 typefaces including Tiffany, Bookman, Panache, Edwardian Script, and the self-titled typefaces Benguiat and Benguiat Gothic. He also designed logotypes for The New York Times, Playboy, Sports Illustrated, the original Planet of the Apes film, Super Fly, and countless others.

Benguiat grew up in Brooklyn, NY and attended Canarsie High School. He was once a very prominent jazz percussionist playing=2 0in several big bands with the likes of Stan Kenton and Woody Herman. In an interview Benguait stated this of his chosen career as a designer: "I'm really a musician, a jazz percussionist. One day I went to the musician's union to pay dues and I saw all these old people who were playing bar mitzvahs and Greek weddings. It occurred to me that one day that's going to be me, so I decided to become an illustrator."

Benguait is an avid pilot and enjoys flying his personal plane. Benguiat teaches at the School of Visual Arts in his native New York.^[1] On November 2, 2000, he was inducted into the Art Directors ClubHall of Fame.

This guy is still alive, I think. I wonder how he feels about his POTA logo being altered. Maybe Fox would have had to pay him something when they renewed the copyright -- and refused -- so they just altered it a little.

Maybe James could find out where the School of Visual Arts is and pay old Ed a visit?

-- Rory

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I pre-ordered mine as well, but now I'm having second thoughts,
because the release date falls around the same time Deep Discount has
their 20 percent off sale (yes I know, they suck but), that could
knock another $20 off the price.

Well, you can cancel it -- if you're sure about Deep Discount. Anyway to find out from Deep Discount what they're going to do?

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I pre-ordered mine as well, but now I'm having second thoughts,
>
> because the release date falls around the same time Deep Discount has
>
> their 20 percent off sale (yes I know, they suck but), that could
>
> knock another $20 off the price.
> Well, you can cancel it -- if you're sure about Deep Discount. Â Anyway to find out from
Deep Discount what they're going to do?
>
>
>
> -- Rory
>

Hi. Just wanted to share a photo of me wearing Apemania's Zira
appliances. It came yesterday and I have already put it on and off
numerous times. It will definitely look better once it's all glued in
place and I have a better hairline and wig. I uploaded the photo in my
folder, Jessica's Stuff, if you are unable to see it here.

This is the appliance before I removed the excess foam latex around the
mask.

http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/IMG_ 4427-1.jpg

Jessica.

That's damn cool, Jessica. What are you planning for the wig and hair pieces? You know, in the original two films (not sure about the others) they used real human hair (I think from Asians). Good wigs and hair pieces make a big difference. Also, you'll need to do all the makeup color and blending. A lot of work.

I was watching just yesterday the Roddy McDowall 16mm footage of him being made up during PLANET. I think the thing that took longest was simply applying all the grease paint and blending the colors!

-- Rory

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, you can cancel it -- if you're sure about Deep Discount.
 Anyway to find out from Deep Discount what they're going to do?
>
>
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:
>
> I pre-ordered the PotA Blu-ray (the first film only) from Amazon.
$25.95. Free shipping
> plus they knock an extra five bucks off for pre-ordering it.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> Funny Rory, I know how you feel. My fav line since turning 40
is "I'm glad my life is half over."
> - Scott B.
>
> --- On Fri, 9/26/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:
>
> From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Cool T-shirt!
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 1:35 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> THought this was cool.....
>
> and with gas stations running out of gas everywhere.. .(I went to
thirteen different stations today before I found one that had
gas!).....seems it's time for The ROad Warrior to set about on his
rounds!
>
> http://mine. myxer.com/ 2008/09/24/ t-shirt-celebrat es-sci-fi-
post-apocalyptic -classics/
> Yeah, that is pretty cool. Don't think I'll order one though.
>
>
> Anyway... where are you located? I now live in NC near Asheville
and we're having the same problem here.
>
>
> I don't know, but the news these days.... hell, just blow up the
world already! The older I get, the sicker I am of everything!
>
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Find phone numbers fast with the New AOL Yellow Pages!
>

They're very secretive about actual dates, but it should be announced
before Nov 4. DD is slower than Amazon, and 50% of what they ship to me
gets stolen in the mail because they don't put tracking #'s on their
shipments, so it's running a risk that I won't see the set for two
months after order. When a shipment does arrive, 9 times out of ten, it
looks like a truck ran over it....

To hell with DD!

-- Rory

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Funny Rory, I know how you feel. My fav line since turning 40 is "I'm glad my life is half over."

- Scott B.

What's really depressing me is I grow up with 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (forget PLANET OF THE APES -- that had me thinking the world was going to be destroyed by nuclear war -- until the early eighties, then I figured out it just wasn't going to happen) and I think like, "Wow! The future will be great! Can't wait for the 21st century!"

Then the 21st Century gets here -- AND, BOY, HAS THE 21st CENTURY SUCKED!!!!! AND IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE!!!!!

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "pota1968" <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> Here you have all 5 Super 8s in color/sound. This was the best I
could
> do.
>
> http://www.potacollective.com.htmlmerchandise1.html"
>
> Enjoy, and have a great weekend everyone.
> Al
>

----- Original Message -----

From: juswannaknit

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:15 AM

Subject: [pota] Zira Appliance from Apemania

Hi. Just wanted to share a photo of me wearing Apemania's Zira
appliances. It came yesterday and I have already put it on and off
numerous times. It will definitely look better once it's all glued in
place and I have a better hairline and wig. I uploaded the photo in my
folder, Jessica's Stuff, if you are unable to see it here.

This is the appliance before I removed the excess foam latex around the
mask.

http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/IMG_ 4427-1.jpg

Jessica.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> So you have no interest in Conquest?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@> wrote:
> >
> > I pre-ordered the PotA Blu-ray (the first film only) from Amazon.
> $25.95. Free shipping
> > plus they knock an extra five bucks off for pre-ordering it.
> >
> >
>

> I'm glad my life is half over.

> --- On Fri, 9/26/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

> hell, just blow up the world already! The older I get, the sicker I

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

> From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Cool T-shirt!
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 1:35 PM
> THought this was cool.....
>
>
>
> and with gas stations running out of gas everywhere...(I
> went to thirteen different stations today before I found one
> that had gas!).....seems it's time for The ROad Warrior
> to set about on his rounds!
>
>
>
> http://mine.myxer.com/2008/09/24/t-shirt-celebrates-sci-fi-post-apocalyptic-classics/
>
> Yeah, that is pretty cool. Don't think I'll order
> one though.
>
>
>
> Anyway... where are you located? I now live in NC near
> Asheville and we're having the same problem here.
>
>
>
>
> I don't know, but the news these days.... hell, just
> blow up the world already! The older I get, the sicker I
> am of everything!
>
>
>
>
> -- Rory

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Jessica.
>
> And just so everyone knows, all videos on the site will be
downloadable. All you need to do is right click your mouse cursor
over the image of the file then "save target as..." As in this
example, mouse cursor over the "POTA Super 8 Box."
>
> Enjoy
> Al
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:50:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Super 8s Now Online.
>
>
> Al your website is looking spectacular. Every time I visit there
are more goodies for me to look at. Thank you for doing this. I
really appreciate it.
>
> Jessica.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@yahoo. com>
wrote:
>
> No problem, John.
>
> It was brought to my attention that there may be a few who see the
web site a bit to the right of the screen (not in the center). That's
because the site was designed for PC widescreen monitors and
PC's connected to widescreen LCD TVs. But I'll try to work on a
secondary site for regular PC monitors when the web site is finished.
>
> Al
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: John <DrZaiusDavis@ aol.com>
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 5:50:51 PM
> Subject: [pota] Re: Super 8s Now Online.
>
>
> I have owned these for years but have never been actually able to
> view them. Thanks so much for this. Very cool.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "pota1968" <pota1968@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Here you have all 5 Super 8s in color/sound. This was the best I
> could
> > do.
> >
> > http://www.potacoll ective.com/.htmlmerchandise 1.html
>
> >
> > Enjoy, and have a great weekend everyone.
> > Al
> >
>

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, juswannaknit <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

> From: juswannaknit <jessicarotich@...>
> Subject: [pota] Zira Appliance from Apemania
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 2:15 PM
> Hi. Just wanted to share a photo of me wearing
> Apemania's Zira
> appliances. It came yesterday and I have already put it on
> and off
> numerous times. It will definitely look better once
> it's all glued in
> place and I have a better hairline and wig. I uploaded the
> photo in my
> folder, Jessica's Stuff, if you are unable to see it
> here.
>
> This is the appliance before I removed the excess foam
> latex around the
> mask.
>
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_4427-1.jpg
>
> Jessica.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:
>
>
> Looks great, I have the male chimp appliance from apemania. We should get together.
>
> Rob

>>Two back to back (Friday) appearance in Mission: Impossible.

>>Being that BENEATH is my favorite of the five, seeing a brand new,

Paul Newman's last stage appearance was as the Stage Manager in Our Town directed by James Naughton.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:
>
> Just learned that he's gone. Cool Hand Luke was the first DVD I purchased and the first Blu-
> ray title I purchased. Great soundtrack from Lalo too.
> See ya pal.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqwYrbwHeM
>

----- Original Message -----

From: James

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:09 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: OT: Paul Newman

Paul Newman's last stage appearance was as the Stage Manager in Our Town directed by James Naughton.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote:
>
> Just learned that he's gone. Cool Hand Luke was the first DVD I purchased and the first Blu-
> ray title I purchased. Great soundtrack from Lalo too.
> See ya pal.
>
> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=xYqwYrbwHeM
>

Paul Newman's last stage appearance was as the Stage Manager in Our Town directed by James Naughton.

I remember back in the eighties, on Nightline, I think, a debate over nuclear arms between Paul Newman and Charlton Heston. It was easy to tell that the liberal Newman couldn't stand the conservation Heston, at least not his politics anyway. Newman had no patients with him. I'll never forget the look on Heston's face when Newman said something a little rude to him, and ol' Chuck just looked at him like "What's your problem?"

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:09 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Zira Appliance from Apemania

 

But what's the alternative?

 

 

In a message dated 9/26/2008 10:18:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, skintricks@cox. net writes:

congrats!!!   Just remember what I told you about Apemania's facial hairpieces.. .they're good human hair,  but short.  It takes a lot of time to separate the hairs and spray them down so that they don't stand out.

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Forgot to mention that "Gorilla brutality!!" got quite a few laughs as well.

Chris L.

I remember when I went to the PLANET/BENEATH double feature in 1971, a man was laughing a lot at the Mass of the Holy Bomb. Must have been a Catholic.

-- Rory

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I'm in Charlotte, Rory but I've heard western NC has it really bad!
It really does seem like everything is falling apart, doesn't it??

It's scary. Everything hangs by threads.

-- Rory

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Paul Newman directed Naughton in a film version of "The Glass Menagerie", and there was a companion book. Newman starred in Arthur Jacobs' first movie, "What A Way To Go" and was an early choice for POTA.

Newman worked with a chimp in that movie! (I have "What A Way To Go!" on DVD. Not too good a movie.)

-- Rory

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The problem I have with beards are they are a coarser hair.

The originals wear made from Asian hair with some of the

actors own hair blended in, with the exception of the Orangs

who's were made from Yak hair.

Lou Wagner's head hair is his own as Lucius, I do believe.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
> I would be surprised if he donated that much hair.
> Did he not wear a wig? Or did they shave his head?
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/27/2008 10:05:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> Lou Wagner's head hair is his own as Lucius, I do believe.
>
>
>
>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> It IS open to the public! The garden is anyway...I just drove in
and no one stopped me! Just enter the main entrance off Mulholland
onto Speilberg Rd. and veer left...it's behind the gym type building!
It's a very nice tribute to one of Hollywood's best loved actors.
There are signs with donor names....one is labeled "Roddy's Girls"
and lists everyone from Liz Taylor and Lauren Bacall to Jodie Foster
and Sharon Stone! THroughout are markers on various plants dedicated
to other actors....
>
> Note: If you want good pictures of the statue that are not backlit
go in the morning!
> I've put pics in the Photos Folder "Roddy McDowall Rose Garden"
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>

--- On Sun, 9/28/08, drhasslein <drhasslein@...> wrote:

> From: drhasslein <drhasslein@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar Statue
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 2:05 AM
> This evening I visited Roddy's Garden again, and as I
> marveled as to
> how this faux Statue had endured the elements over the
> years, I
> noticed the outer shell coating on his foot has begun to
> crack and is
> peeling, about a half inch chunk is missing, more to
> follow. I sent
> an email to apemania, but I don't know who would be in
> charge of
> maintenance, but significant damage will occur if something
> isn't
> done soon. It was after hours at the home, and its kind of
> touchy if
> the public is supposed to be there anyway, so I didn't
> try to inform
> them. The upkeep on the garden is excellent though, and I
> really
> recommend visiting it if you get the chance.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim
> \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > It IS open to the public! The garden is anyway...I
> just drove in
> and no one stopped me! Just enter the main entrance off
> Mulholland
> onto Speilberg Rd. and veer left...it's behind the gym
> type building!
> It's a very nice tribute to one of Hollywood's best
> loved actors.
> There are signs with donor names....one is labeled
> "Roddy's Girls"
> and lists everyone from Liz Taylor and Lauren Bacall to
> Jodie Foster
> and Sharon Stone! THroughout are markers on various plants
> dedicated
> to other actors....
> >
> > Note: If you want good pictures of the statue that are
> not backlit
> go in the morning!
> > I've put pics in the Photos Folder "Roddy
> McDowall Rose Garden"
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >

I would be surprised if he donated that much hair.

Did he not wear a wig? Or did they shave his head?

In a message dated 9/27/2008 10:05:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@aol. com writes:

Lou Wagner's head hair is his own as Lucius, I do believe.

HA! You must be kidding me.

I mean they just used wig pieces around his normal head of hair! I think I'm correct, not sure, but when you look at Wagner as Lucius in PLANET, that's mostly his own hair on his head!

-- Rory

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This evening I visited Roddy's Garden again, and as I marveled as to
how this faux Statue had endured the elements over the years, I
noticed the outer shell coating on his foot has begun to crack and is
peeling, about a half inch chunk is missing, more to follow. I sent
an email to apemania, but I don't know who would be in charge of
maintenance, but significant damage will occur if something isn't
done soon. It was after hours at the home, and its kind of touchy if
the public is supposed to be there anyway, so I didn't try to inform
them. The upkeep on the garden is excellent though, and I really
recommend visiting it if you get the chance.

I would inform the management of the home. Either they take care of it, or we hire someone ourselves to fix it. Anyway you can take a photo of the damage and post it here?

-- Rory

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Bill does a better Cornelius than David Watson,

though I haven't heard the voice, I'm told it's spooky close.

Joe Russo told me once (or twice) that Roddy McDowall was brought in to loop all of Cornelius' dialogue in BENEATH, then whoever at APJAC or Fox decided not to use it!

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Hard to believe he's gone.
> May his salad dressing and chocolates continue on.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Thank You! I've been saying that for years! It really makes you
appreciate
> the job Bill
> and Paula did all those years ago. Bill does a better Cornelius
than David
> Watson,
> though I haven't heard the voice, I'm told it's spooky close.

>
> hi i was wondering where you got that version of planet of the

> Pretty funny stuff.
> Too bad Brent didn't think to just try the Start Button.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/27/2008 5:00:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> pota1968@... writes:
>
> PLANET OF THE MEN
>
>
>
>
> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life

> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and

> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?

>

Apemania emailed me back saying the are going to contact MPTF and see
if they want some touch ups made. As far as what it is made of, I
thought it was some kind of poly foam, until I saw the chip, I can only
describe the outer coat as a hard shell, like an M& M with a little bit
of space between it & the under sculpture. I don't have a digital
camera, but I'll see if I can get one of my friends with a camera to go
out there with me again to take a photo. None of them live in this part
of the San Fernado Valley, so it may be difficult, I've been trying to
get some of them to go for a while now. They just have no
interest....

I would imagine it's most made of fiberglass.

-- Rory

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