--- On Fri, 10/3/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

> From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
> Subject: [pota] (OT) Religulous
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 5:33 PM
> Saw "Religulous" today. Pokes fun at religion
> you know. Short clip from POTA of Zira kissing Taylor when
> evolution vs. creationism is discussed.
>
>
>
> -- Rory

Chatting with my local dealer today about the state of the Blu Ray
market and he tells me buyers are being picky, only buying titles they
think are 'deserving' of Blu ray. As an example he chose Jodie
Foster's 'The Brave One' Customers would rather buy the standard Def
DVD and save money - he hadn't sold a single copy on Blu Ray.

Are Blu Ray discs significantly more expensive than standard DVD in
the US?

Dave

Yeah, I'm very picky about it. Since I got my player I've been looking at what Blu-ray titles I might want to get and it's mostly a case of "I'll just wait until I can find one cheaper." The problem for me is I already have nearly every film I care about on DVD, so getting, say, the Blu-rays of THE SEARCHERS, or BULLITT, or THE ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD is mostly a case of "I can wait," even the Blu-ray GODFATHERS. Right now here in the US the average price for a Blu-ray disc is around $25 to $30 vs. the usual $15 to $20 for a standard DVD. Many of the older titles on DVD can now be found for $10 or less. It'll be a while before the prices for Blu-ray discs come down, but if you hunt on the internet you can find many for well less than $20, usually used though.

THE SEVENTH VOYAGE OF SINBAD is coming out on Blu-ray in a couple days. If I read good things abou t it, I might get it. Damn few more modern movies I care that much about.

-- Rory

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I remember seeing a true Technicolor print of THE WIZARD OF OZ prior to the restoration done about 10 years ago

- Scott B.

Do you have the latest four-disc special edition of OZ on DVD, Scott? Pretty damn good looking, I think. On Blu-ray it should be something fantastic.

-- Rory

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i still feel as nice as Blu is it's really a bunch of bull, mostly due to the how the studios are handling it. Toshiba has the right idea of making an inexpensive but good up converting player. Until the price of manufacturing Blu discs comes down they will have an uphill battle convincing the public to switch. Even the selling point of lossless audio is mute since that too was previous available on Laserdisc (DTS editions) years ago - and most don't even know that.

- Scott B.

You know, Scott, you're no seeker -- you're negative! And yet I'll bet you're not prepared to die.

Anyway, what the hell is an "Oppo" player, and what's the difference between "up conversion" and "progressive scan"?

-- Rory

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Interesting. I just realised that the blu ray release date is election
day. So you can use the election day countdown on the news to also
count down the days until the blu release & the original version of
Conquest...

And Sarah Palin's winkin' right back at 'ya!

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Deep discount has posted the specifics for the individual discs. Just
click on special features of each disc. It confirms two versions of
Conquest and Battle... and a special introduction by the lawgiver on
Battle...amoungst other things... They aren't listing the box yet.

What does forced trailer mean?

Oh, boy! Reading some of these special features details... doesn't sound good. Only lists interactive pressbooks and lobby card galleries for the sequels. BATTLE's "DVD Introduction by the Lawgiver" sounds like some awful Apemania thing!

-- Rory

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I have an Upscaling DVD player too. According to the product specs: "With the proper HDTV, you can watch your standard DVDs with 1080p upscaling. Basically, it increases the lines of resolution and gives you a near high-definition visual experience."

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> Rory,
> Ah.  There is a difference between between progressive and upscaling.  An upscaling player actually adds more pixels to the picture increasing the dpi allowing the viewer to bring up the picture quality of a 480p (p=progressive) to 720p, or 1080i, and depending on the player even 1080p  The improvement is really stunning and is just a "tad" under a real HD image.  Of course like with "progressive" scan players (which works on the lines that make of the image rather than the "upscaling" which adds pixels") not all are built the same.  A cheaper upscaler won't look at good.  All Blu players do "upscal" standard dvds BUT not all do the job as good.  In fact, it's been noted that the Toshiba HD-DVD players upscaled better than most of the Bluray players.  This makes sense since Toshiba owns the rights to whatever they used to do the upscaling, and has since improved on it and is now selling standard DVD players using this technology.  Oppo is a
> player available online via http://www.oppodigital.com/ and make a very high end player without high end prices.  When Denon (supposed to be a very high end product) was advertising on my site I was getting product from them to use. I eventually turned them down and stopped advertising for them do to the actual lack of quality of their products.  EG: a $1,200. dvd player performed below a $99.00 SONY! In both sound, and especially visually quality - and it wad blown away by the Oppo and it's upscaling feature (plus the Oppo is region free meaning it will play PAL DVDs available in the UK as well).  Because Oppo is sold only online it been a "high end" secret of sorts for a while.  They were using upscaling a good year or more prior to the whole HD-DVD/Blu war.  Which is why when I did my little comparison I was not blown away by Blu.
> If you have any further questions on this let me know.  But to be fair to this group since this really off topic maybe you should email be personally so as not to upset others - unless the group doesn't mind.  (digitalcinema@...)
> - Scott B.
>

Rory, did you catch Robot Chicken's take on how boring 2001 is?

No, I rarely watch cartoons. Can it be viewed on-line anyplace?

I don't know if I've ever written it here, but 2001, my second favorite movie next to PLANET, is a great movie to put on if you want to take a nap or be lulled to sleep. One of the things I love to do on a rainy, gray weekend afternoon is put 2001 on and pass out on the couch.

-- Rory

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If your Oppo doesn't play PAL disc out of the box you can call the company and they will guide you to do an override via the remote.

Once that's done, do they also defeat Macrovision? I've got a couple APEX AD-1500s that have been "firmware upgraded" and will play all regions and defeat Macrovision -- have had them for years -- and with a DVD recorder I'll assume you know what that means, Scott.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.cinemaretro.com/index.php?/archives/2527-JAPAN-ZEE-VERSION-
OF-CONQUEST-OF-THE-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-THE-INSIDE-STORY.htmlbr> >

Im crazy enough to go out and buy a bluray player AND the Apes set again (3rd time, twice before on DVD and once on VHS). maybe i can sell the older sets on ebay to recoup...... ...

Sounds like a plan.

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Who needs to buy blu-rays when you can rent them from netflix.com?

I pay $13.00 a month to netflix.com and I can rent unlimited blu-rays a month (2 at a time).

Beats paying $25-$40 for a blu-ray movie, that's for sure.

Yeah, Netflix is great. Right now I'm not in a place that makes having to mail them back easy, but when I am....

I was a member of Netflix for over four years back when I lived in Ft. Lauderdale. Service was very fast there.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
But to be fair to this group since this really off topic maybe you
should email be personally so as not to upset others - unless the group
doesn't mind. (digitalcinema@...)
> - Scott B.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> > And Sarah Palin's winkin' right back at 'ya!
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote:
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> Deep discount has posted the specifics for the individual discs.
Just
> click on special features of each disc. It confirms two versions of
> Conquest and Battle... and a special introduction by the lawgiver
on
> Battle...amoungst other things... They aren't listing the box yet.
>
> What does forced trailer mean?
>

>>Harry Knowles went. <<

>>OK, who went last night? <<


>>This one-time

>>From what I remember I think it was more of a production problem as

>>I don't know if the Japanese laser release was from the unused

Also did you notice, in the BD specs, it says 5.1 isolated score on
Conquest preview cut only?

Well, that would make sense. We know from the Film Score Monthly CD that the Preview version had more music. The theatrical version had an edited and rearranged score.

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
>
> If you're interested in that player available at Wal-mart you might
do a search to find of if it is version 2.0 - I believe only 2.0
versions software allows access to the new feature Blu-ray live.
Also, depending on how you are going to hook it up with a receiver
for sound and what you want to achieve also is a factor. If you have
a receiver with an HDMI input you will have no problem accessing the
various sound option - including lossless audio. If you don't then
you should make sure the player has all channel analog out puts. Of
course if you don't care about that sound feature then you can just
use the optical output for normal 5.1.
> Which ever the player is it just make a note of the manufacturer,
and model number and go to the company site and see what downloads
are available and what they cover.
> - Scott B.

Actually, www.crutchfield. com is now taking pre-orders, via phone only, for the Panasonic BD55 and the price is $399.99

- Scott B.

I noticed yesterday that Amazon is taking pre-orders on the Panasonic BD35 for $299.99. You might want to go with that instead, and remember that if you don't have one already, you'll want an HDMI cable. I had to get one that cost nearly $30!

With the economy sinking -- probably all around the world now -- I think you'll find the prices on electronics dropping pretty fast as manufactures scramble to recoup some costs.

Also Blu-ray player prices should drop quite a bit in the next couple years anyway, which is why I opted to just get last year's Panasonic BD30 (which I see on the player I got was actually manufactured in May 2008) at $250.00. I figure I'll upgrade to a better player in a couple years for around the same price.

-- Rory

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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.cinemaretro.com/index.php?/archives/2527-JAPAN-ZEE-VERSION-
> OF-CONQUEST-OF-THE-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-THE-INSIDE-STORY.htmlbr> > >
>

Does anyone know anything about this? Could it be the BBC shows??

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, goapebilly@... wrote:
>
> hi in the japanese laser disc set,the only one that is uncut with
> additional footage is beneath the planet of the apes.the 4 others
are the same as
> everything else goapebilly
>
>
> In a message dated 10/6/2008 6:18:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> LordTZer0@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> Here's a question . . .
> Is the Japanese LD of Conquest uncut?
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/6/2008 3:09:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> mark_nems@... a messag
>
> Imagine how cool it would have
> been to walk into a Tokyo theater and seen it.
>
>
>
>
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>
>

That was the great thing about the APEX.

It could be set to region free with just a

chip or a disc depending on the model.

But nowadays it can be done on many

brands on the remote like a game cheat.

Oh, that's a good thing to know, but I wonder if any Blu-rays will do it? I think one of the reasons the studios want everyone to switch to Blu is because the copy protections are better.

I'm not sure about that eliminator thing mentioned here (can't remember the name) will work with Blu.

-- Rory

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With so many knowledgeable people about video

maybe someone can help me pick the best player

for my needs. I have a lot of anime AVIs on DVD

and I just want something I can use those on and

still record with. And recommendations for that?

You mean you want a DVD recorder, not just a player?

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Tim "apefan"

To: POTA ; POTA DG

Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 4:04 AM

Subject: [pota] ancestor to Frank?

Hopefully you can see this video from Reuter's.... ...a monkey serving tables in Japan....... .not wearing the red coat that Frank wears in Conquest but he does seem quite efficient!

http://cosmos. bcst.yahoo. com/up/player/ popup/?rn= 3906861&cl= 10051642& ch=4226714& src=news

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> It's not just you.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> In a message dated 10/8/2008 5:07:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> robert.mansell@... writes:

> Is it just me that watches this and thinks it's just plain wrong.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> It's not just you.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> In a message dated 10/8/2008 5:07:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> robert.mansell@... writes:

> Is it just me that watches this and thinks it's just plain wrong.

>
> Came across this photo that says it is the Hollywood Wax

>
> Tim
>

> http://www.foxmoviechannel.com/ChannelOfTheApes/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Taylor" <mark_nems@...> wrote:
>
> About four years ago I read a post (on some general sci-fi message
> board) from someone claiming to have viewed the original violent edit
> of Conquest in a theater in Japan in 1972. He was a member of the US
> military and was stationed in Japan during the original theatrical
> run. A few months later, the standard edit of Conquest was shown on
> his military base, and he was shocked to find that Breck did not die
> at the end of the film. Being lucky enough to view both edits only
> months apart, left a very clear impression upon him. At the time that
> I read his story, I was skeptical. However, now after reading the
> article linked below, I'm convinced that his claim is accurate. The
> original more violent edit of Conquest did play in theaters in Japan.
> Who knows for how long, and in how many theaters, but it must have
> been there for a while back in 1972. Imagine how cool it would have
> been to walk into a Tokyo theater and seen it.
>
> - Mark
>
>
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
http://www.cinemaretro.com/index.php?/archives/2527-JAPAN-ZEE-VERSION-
> > OF-CONQUEST-OF-THE-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-THE-INSIDE-STORY.htmlbr> > > >
> >
>