|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48945 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48946 |
From: goapebilly@aol.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48947 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48948 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48949 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48950 |
From: Robin Medford |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48951 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48952 |
From: goapebilly@aol.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48953 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: The Chairman |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48954 |
From: m c |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48955 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48956 |
From: ChristopherBligh@aol.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48957 |
From: ChristopherBligh@aol.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48958 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48959 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48960 |
From: James |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48961 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48962 |
From: James |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48963 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: (Not so missing) link |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48964 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48965 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48966 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48967 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48968 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48969 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48970 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48971 |
From: goapebilly@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48972 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48973 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48974 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48975 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48976 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48977 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Robinson Crusoe on Mars |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48978 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Appliance from Apemania |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48979 |
From: John B Kirtley |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Appliance from Apemania |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48980 |
From: m c |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48981 |
From: m c |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48982 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48983 |
From: James |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48984 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48985 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48986 |
From: digitalcinema |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Something I had made a long time ago... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48987 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Robinson Crusoe on Mars |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48988 |
From: m c |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48989 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48990 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48991 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48992 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48993 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Appliance from Apemania |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48994 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Megos? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48995 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48996 |
From: Robin Medford |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48997 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Megos? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48998 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Megos? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48999 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: France Nuyen (Was: The TV show) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49000 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49001 |
From: m c |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: EMCE Toys APES (was: Megos?) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49002 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Blu-ray Disc Features |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49003 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49004 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-ray Disc Features |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49005 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-ray Disc Features |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49006 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Female orangutan spotted! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49007 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: OT: Lalo Schifrin autobiography |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49008 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-ray Disc Features |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49009 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female orangutan spotted! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49010 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49011 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-ray Disc Features |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49012 |
From: James |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49013 |
From: James |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49014 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49015 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49016 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49017 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: (OT) Micheal Wilson Bio |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49018 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49019 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49020 |
From: Tim |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49021 |
From: ~~Joanne~~ |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49022 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & No |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49023 |
From: James |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49024 |
From: James |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49025 |
From: John |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49026 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49027 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49028 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49029 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49030 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49031 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Lalo Schifrin autobiography |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49032 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Cheeta in EW |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49033 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49034 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49035 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: France Nuyen (Was: The TV show) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49036 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49037 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Micheal Wilson Bio |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49038 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49039 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49040 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Something I had made a long time ago... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49041 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Something I had made a long time ago... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49042 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49043 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 49044 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48945 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> That's not a gorilla - it's Zira.
I know -Note the subject heading :0)
Dave <.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48946 |
From: goapebilly@aol.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.html
.html
the piece seen on toms site is actually mine ,i hadit done with a zira head
and pose for display.i dont know if it was a prototype female gorilla costume or
not.ive been told they thought of the ideal ,that's why the color to match the
gorilla outfits.i have seen only one b/w costume test shot of it and a female
chimp was wearing it in photo.the buckles also match the ones worn the gorilla
boots in planet ,is another reason piece was supposed to be female
gorilla.except for the color and buckles on chest ,it is exactly the same as the
green female chimp costumes.i know this doesn't answer the question but has been
told to me by several sources.i have shown it to brian also as he doubts it is a
female gorilla he is not 100% sure. goapebilly
In a message dated 10/10/2008 9:11:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
digitalcinema@... writes:
|
That's not a gorilla - it's Zira. She's even hold her notes
(That Taylor steals). The material is just a different color and
has clasps on the chest.
I kinda like it.
- Scott B.
--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Dave B
<smugster2000@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Dave B
<smugster2000@ yahoo.com> Subject: [pota] Re: Female
gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Friday,
October 10, 2008, 8:41 AM
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48947 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.html
.html
Incorrect.
That is Zira in the Female Gorilla Costume.
In a message dated 10/10/2008 8:11:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
digitalcinema@... writes:
The
material is just a different color and has clasps on the
chest. <.html
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48948 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.html
.html
The costume in question was supposed to be the female gorilla
costume.
You may recall the actress being made-up as a female gorilla in the
photo.
I don't know anyone who knows whether or not they used a female
gorilla.
In the funeral scene - all the females I could see running (and I ran it
frame
by frame) were Chimpettes. They may have put the Widow in it and
kept
her Chimpy to more easily identify her as female. That would make
the
scene more interesting from a sociological point of view as it would
have
to account for a mixed marriage. More likely they would have
explained
it away by saying that purple was also a funereal color in Ape
Society
as the other female Chimps were wearing purple scarves in the scene.
Therefor, if not a Female Gorilla Costume, then it's a Chimp Widow.
In a message dated 10/10/2008 9:56:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
goapebilly@... writes:
.i dont
know if it was a prototype female gorilla costume or not.ive been told they
thought of the ideal ,that's why the color to match the gorilla outfits.i have
seen only one b/w costume test shot of it and a female chimp was wearing it in
photo. <.html
<.html
|
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48949 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlWhere did you get it? from the studio?
--- On Fri, 10/10/08, goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...> wrote:
> From: goapebilly@... <goapebilly@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume???
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 10:38 AM
> the piece seen on toms site is actually mine ,i hadit done
> with a zira head
> and pose for display.i dont know if it was a prototype
> female gorilla costume
> or not.ive been told they thought of the ideal ,that's
> why the color to match
> the gorilla outfits.i have seen only one b/w costume test
> shot of it and a
> female chimp was wearing it in photo.the buckles also
> match the ones worn the
> gorilla boots in planet ,is another reason piece was
> supposed to be female
> gorilla.except for the color and buckles on chest ,it is
> exactly the same as
> the green female chimp costumes.i know this doesn't
> answer the question but has
> been told to me by several sources.i have shown it to
> brian also as he
> doubts it is a female gorilla he is not 100% sure.
> goapebilly
>
> In a message dated 10/10/2008 9:11:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time,
> digitalcinema@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> That's not a gorilla - it's Zira. She's even
> hold her notes (That Taylor
> steals). The material is just a different color and has
> clasps on the chest.
> I kinda like it.
> - Scott B.
>
> --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Dave B
> <smugster2000@smugster2> wrote:
>
>
> From: Dave B <smugster2000@smugster2>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume???
> To: pota@...:
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 8:41 AM
>
>
>
> I think the previous post had a bad link
>
> try here and scroll down
>
> <_http://www.tomspina designs.com/ Displays. .html
> (http://www.tomspinadesigns.com/Displays.html >
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 48950 |
From: Robin Medford |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: The TV show |
|
.html Hi there!!!
Would really want to know who played the ill-fated Jonesey in ESCAPE
FROM TOMORROW....& if he's still active today
Rob <.html
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|
| Group: pota |
Message: 48951 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlThe b/w costume you speak of Billy, I have seen it too and the handwritten card on bottom corner states that it is a chimp.
Also has chimp hieroglyph, not gorilla hieroglyph.
Jessica.
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:38 AM, <goapebilly@...> wrote:
the piece seen on toms site is actually mine ,i hadit done with a zira head and pose for display.i dont know if it was a prototype female gorilla costume or not.ive been told they thought of the ideal ,that's why the color to match the gorilla outfits.i have seen only one b/w costume test shot of it and a female chimp was wearing it in photo.the buckles also match the ones worn the gorilla boots in planet ,is another reason piece was supposed to be female gorilla.except for the color and buckles on chest ,it is exactly the same as the green female chimp costumes.i know this doesn't answer the question but has been told to me by several sources.i have shown it to brian also as he doubts it is a female gorilla he is not 100% sure. goapebilly
In a message dated 10/10/2008 9:11:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, digitalcinema@... writes:
|
That's not a gorilla - it's Zira. She's even hold her notes (That Taylor steals). The material is just a different color and has clasps on the chest.
I kinda like it.
From: Dave B <smugster2000@...> Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 8:41 AM
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| Group: pota |
Message: 48952 |
From: goapebilly@aol.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.html
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thanks for info,i have heard different stories from numerous sources .until
i ever hear exact story from costumer or someone who worked on film i really
dont know.when i purchased top many years ago seller had thought it was widows
costume from funeral.but if you look at frames ,it looks like a chimp face?go
figure its a gorilla funeral?the person i purchased costume from ,got it from
one of the couple people who bought out lots of costumes from fox and western
costume.
ive compared it to the green chimp pieces,and everything is exactly
the same,material,stitching,clasps etc,difference being color and metal
buckles,which match the gorilla costumes. goapebilly
In a message dated 10/10/2008 1:38:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
apefan23@... writes:
Where did you get it? from the studio?
--- On Fri, 10/10/08, goapebilly@aol. com <goapebilly@aol. com>
wrote:
> From: goapebilly@aol. com <goapebilly@aol. com> >
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups. com >
Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 10:38 AM > the piece seen on toms site
is actually mine ,i hadit done > with a zira head > and pose for
display.i dont know if it was a prototype > female gorilla costume
> or not.ive been told they thought of the ideal ,that's > why
the color to match > the gorilla outfits.i have seen only one b/w
costume test > shot of it and a > female chimp was wearing it in
photo.the buckles also > match the ones worn the > gorilla boots
in planet ,is another reason piece was > supposed to be female >
gorilla.except for the color and buckles on chest ,it is > exactly the
same as > the green female chimp costumes.i know this doesn't >
answer the question but has > been told to me by several sources.i have
shown it to > brian also as he > doubts it is a female gorilla he
is not 100% sure. > goapebilly > > In a message dated
10/10/2008 9:11:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight > Time, > digitalcinema@ yahoo.com
writes: > > > > > That's not a gorilla -
it's Zira. She's even > hold her notes (That Taylor > steals).
The material is just a different color and has > clasps on the chest.
> I kinda like it. > - Scott B. > > --- On Fri,
10/10/08, Dave B > <smugster2000@ smugster2> wrote: >
> > From: Dave B <smugster2000@ smugster2> >
Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups. To: >
Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 8:41 AM > > > > I
think the previous post had a bad link > > try here and scroll
down > > <_http://www.tomspina designs.com/ Displays.
.html > (http://www.tomspina designs.com/ Displays..html")
> > > Dave > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
************ **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening > at your
destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!
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Message: 48953 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: The Chairman |
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.html Every time I do a search on POTA, the film The Chairman pops up.
Goldsmith score, J Lee Thompson directed.. I don't know if Jacobs
produced... It says by the producers of POTA. I've never seen it. I was
wondering what thoughts were about this film. The Maltin book gave a
lukewarm review... But anything with Gregory Peck gets an extra star in
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Message: 48954 |
From: m c |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.html*** Take into consideration the fact that the LAWGIVER statue (who is clearly an Orangutan) also has the "chimp" hieroglyphic on his jacket and the chimp hieroglphic comment(s) are a moot point... ***
--- On Fri, 10/10/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume???
Also has chimp hieroglyph, not gorilla hieroglyph.
Jessica.
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Message: 48955 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
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They just announced "The Chairman" for DVD
on Nov. 7th. I believe that's the last Jacobs movie left to come out on
DVD.
I saw it a millennium ago on cable. I
remember it being kind of boring.
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PM
Subject: [pota] The Chairman
Every time I do a search on POTA, the film The Chairman pops up.
Goldsmith score, J Lee Thompson directed.. I don't know if Jacobs
produced... It says by the producers of POTA. I've never seen it. I was
wondering what thoughts were about this film. The Maltin book gave a
lukewarm review... But anything with Gregory Peck gets an extra star in
my book. Anyone seen it?
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Message: 48956 |
From: ChristopherBligh@aol.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
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Its been on DVD...I have it..its been out since last year
In a message dated 10/10/2008 8:45:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:
They just announced "The Chairman" for DVD
on Nov. 7th. I believe that's the last Jacobs movie left to come out on
DVD.
I saw it a millennium ago on cable. I
remember it being kind of boring.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:42
PM
Subject: [pota] The Chairman
Every time I do a search on POTA, the film The Chairman pops up.
Goldsmith score, J Lee Thompson directed.. I don't know if Jacobs
produced... It says by the producers of POTA. I've never seen it. I was
wondering what thoughts were about this film. The Maltin book gave a
lukewarm review... But anything with Gregory Peck gets an extra star in
my book. Anyone seen
it?
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Message: 48957 |
From: ChristopherBligh@aol.com |
Date: 10/10/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
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Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer come out on DVD?
In a message dated 10/10/2008 8:45:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:
They just announced "The Chairman" for DVD
on Nov. 7th. I believe that's the last Jacobs movie left to come out on
DVD.
I saw it a millennium ago on cable. I
remember it being kind of boring.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:42
PM
Subject: [pota] The Chairman
Every time I do a search on POTA, the film The Chairman pops up.
Goldsmith score, J Lee Thompson directed.. I don't know if Jacobs
produced... It says by the producers of POTA. I've never seen it. I was
wondering what thoughts were about this film. The Maltin book gave a
lukewarm review... But anything with Gregory Peck gets an extra star in
my book. Anyone seen
it?
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Message: 48958 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
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When you're right, you're right. "The
Chairman" came out on DVD on Nov. 7th LAST year. I got it confused with
"Goodbye, Mr. Chips" (Peter O'Toole), which has been announced for January.
That's the last Jacobs movie to debut on DVD.
"Dr. Dolittle", "What A Way To Go",
"Play It Again, Sam", "The Chairman", "Tom and "Huck" the musicals and the
"Apes" are out. I guess that covers it.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 5:47
PM
Subject: Re: [pota] The Chairman
Its been on DVD...I have it..its been out since last year
They just announced "The Chairman" for
DVD on Nov. 7th. I believe that's the last Jacobs movie left to come out on
DVD.
I saw it a millennium ago on cable. I
remember it being kind of boring.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:42
PM
Subject: [pota] The Chairman
Every time I do a search on POTA, the film The Chairman pops up.
Goldsmith score, J Lee Thompson directed.. I don't know if Jacobs
produced... It says by the producers of POTA. I've never seen it. I
was wondering what thoughts were about this film. The Maltin book gave
a lukewarm review... But anything with Gregory Peck gets an extra star
in my book. Anyone seen
it?
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Message: 48959 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlThat was only because of the slip up of the evil Orangutan hierarchy
that rewrote history by altering the Caesar statue into an Orang ;)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> *** Take into consideration the fact that the LAWGIVER statue (who
is clearly an Orangutan) also has the "chimp" hieroglyphic on his
jacket and the chimp hieroglphic comment(s) are a moot point... ***
>
> --- On Fri, 10/10/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume???
>
>
>
>
> Also has chimp hieroglyph, not gorilla hieroglyph.
>
> Jessica.
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Message: 48960 |
From: James |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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Google News
Alert for: "planet of the apes"
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St. Louis Weekend Calendar, October 10-12
Riverfront Times -
St-Louis,MO,USA
The Webster University Film Series presents Planet of the Apes!
Presented in new 35 mm scope print Friday at 8 pm in the Moore Auditorium
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Drowned In Sound - London,UK
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The
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io9 - San Francisco,CA,USA
We are, like the humans in Planet of the Apes, always replacing one
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Message: 48961 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.html Jessica is right about that but the Lawgive is meant to represent all apes. However Drhasslein is completely correct about Orangutan take over.
Another thing - the grieving widow in PLANET doesn't have to be a gorilla just because she wearing a mourning robe the same color as the Gorilla wear. Remember it also the same color as the Orangutan Minister's frock.
Truthfully I'm more interested in that picture I've seen (and it's also one of the 1967 PLANET trading cards) of the Orangutan with a variant costume having leather coming down the front on only one side without hieroglyphs. Truthfully, costume and or make-up tests aside that looks more like a female Orangutan to me.
- Scott B. --- On Sat, 10/11/08, drhasslein <drhasslein@...> wrote:
From: drhasslein <drhasslein@...> Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 4:11 AM
That was only because of the slip up of the evil Orangutan hierarchy that rewrote history by altering the Caesar statue into an Orang ;) --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, m c <aboro3085@. ..> wrote: > > *** Take into consideration the fact that the LAWGIVER statue (who is clearly an Orangutan) also has the "chimp" hieroglyphic on his jacket and the chimp hieroglphic comment(s) are a moot point... *** > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote: > > From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > > > > > Also has chimp hieroglyph, not gorilla hieroglyph. > > Jessica. > > > > >
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Message: 48962 |
From: James |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlDo you mean this one: http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/view/30af?b=120&m=f&o=0
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote: > > > Jessica is right about that but the Lawgive is meant to represent all apes. However Drhasslein is completely correct about Orangutan take over. > Another thing - the grieving widow in PLANET doesn't have to be a gorilla just because she wearing a mourning robe the same color as the Gorilla wear. Remember it also the same color as the Orangutan Minister's frock. > > Truthfully I'm more interested in that picture I've seen (and it's also one of the 1967 PLANET trading cards) of the Orangutan with a variant costume having leather coming down the front on only one side without hieroglyphs. Truthfully, costume and or make-up tests aside that looks more like a female Orangutan to me. > - Scott B. > --- On Sat, 10/11/08, drhasslein drhasslein@... wrote: >
> From: drhasslein drhasslein@... > Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 4:11 AM > > > > > > > That was only because of the slip up of the evil Orangutan hierarchy > that rewrote history by altering the Caesar statue into an Orang ;) > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, m c aboro3085@ ..> wrote: > > > > *** Take into consideration the fact that the LAWGIVER statue (who > is clearly an Orangutan) also has the "chimp" hieroglyphic on his > jacket and the chimp hieroglphic comment(s) are a moot point... *** > > > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote: > > > > From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> > > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > > > > > >
> > > > Also has chimp hieroglyph, not gorilla hieroglyph. > > > > Jessica. > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Message: 48963 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: (Not so missing) link |
| Group: pota |
Message: 48964 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
.htmlEvery time I do a search on POTA, the film The Chairman pops up.
Goldsmith score, J Lee Thompson directed.. I don't know if Jacobs
produced... It says by the producers of POTA. I've never seen it. I was
wondering what thoughts were about this film. The Maltin book gave a
lukewarm review... But anything with Gregory Peck gets an extra star in
my book. Anyone seen it? I've seen it, have the DVD and the CD of Goldsmith's score.
Not a great movie, but not bad. Here's the comment I left for it on IMDB back in 2002:
8 out of 9 people found the following comment useful :-
Somewhat interesting spy thriller, 28 March 2002
Author: haristas from USA
This movie is a relic of its day, reflecting the cold war paranoia that was already rather quaint by 1969. This sort of undercuts the film as anything to be taken seriously, but fortunately it's=2
0reasonably well-acted and directed so it still holds up as mildly entertaining -- if there's nothing better on TV to watch. Of historic note is that this film was produced by the same guys who made the much more memorable "Planet of the Apes" a year earlier (both films were scored by the great Jerry Goldsmith), and one of the sets is left over from "Fantastic Voyage."
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Message: 48965 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlYep, that's the photo I mean.
- Scott B. --- On Sat, 10/11/08, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
From: James <JamesA1102@...> Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:09 AM
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@ ...> wrote: > > > Jessica is right about that but the Lawgive is meant to represent all apes. However Drhasslein is completely correct about Orangutan take over. > Another thing - the grieving widow in PLANET doesn't have to be a gorilla just because she wearing a mourning robe the same color as the Gorilla wear. Remember it also the same color as the Orangutan Minister's frock. > > Truthfully I'm more interested in that picture I've seen (and it's also one of the 1967 PLANET trading cards) of the Orangutan with a variant costume having leather coming down the front on only one side without hieroglyphs. Truthfully, costume and or make-up tests aside that looks more like a female Orangutan to me. > - Scott B. > --- On Sat, 10/11/08, drhasslein drhasslein@. .. wrote: > > From: drhasslein
drhasslein@. .. > Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups. com > Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 4:11 AM > > > > > > > That was only because of the slip up of the evil Orangutan hierarchy > that rewrote history by altering the Caesar statue into an Orang ;) > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, m c aboro3085@ ..> wrote: > > > > *** Take into consideration the fact that the LAWGIVER statue (who > is clearly an Orangutan) also has the "chimp" hieroglyphic on his > jacket and the chimp hieroglphic comment(s) are a moot point... *** > > > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote: > > > > From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> > > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > > > > > >
> > > > Also has chimp hieroglyph, not gorilla hieroglyph. > > > > Jessica. > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 48966 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 10/11/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The Chairman |
.htmlI read your amazon review of Robinson Crusoe on Mars and I'm glad you
pointed out everything didn't carry over from the laserdisc. Good to
know. I sold mine on ebay when it was still going for $250 (although
mine was autographed by the two leads & the writer) now that it goes
for significantly less I'm going to buy it again. Thanks for the info.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Every time I do a search on POTA, the film The Chairman pops up.
>
> Goldsmith score, J Lee Thompson directed.. I don't know if Jacobs
>
> produced... It says by the producers of POTA. I've never seen it. I
was
>
> wondering what thoughts were about this film. The Maltin book gave
a
>
> lukewarm review... But anything with Gregory Peck gets an extra
star in
>
> my book. Anyone seen it?
> I've seen it, have the DVD and the CD of Goldsmith's score.
>
>
>
> Not a great movie, but not bad. Â Here's the comment I left for it
on IMDB back in 2002:
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> 8 out of 9 people found the following comment useful :-
> Somewhat interesting spy thriller, 28 March 2002
> Author: haristas from USA
>
>
> This movie is a relic of its day, reflecting the cold war paranoia
that was already rather quaint by 1969. This sort of undercuts the
film as anything to be taken seriously, but fortunately it's
reasonably well-acted and directed so it still holds up as mildly
entertaining -- if there's nothing better on TV to watch. Of historic
note is that this film was produced by the same guys who made the
much more memorable "Planet of the Apes" a year earlier (both films
were scored by the great Jerry Goldsmith), and one of the sets is
left over from "Fantastic Voyage."
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Message: 48967 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
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| I agree totally, Rob. The same applies for Dianne Stanley (Lt. Stewart in POTA), who the human extras were in POTA, and is France Nuyen (Alma in BATTLE) still around? Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 10/10/2008 12:39:04 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] The TV show Hi there!!!
Would really want to know who played the ill-fated Jonesey in ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW.... & if he's still active today
Rob
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Message: 48968 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
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| You know, it's kind of funny that no female gorillas or orangutans were ever shown in several of the movies, as well as the TV series. Urko mentioned that he had a wife (Elta) but I don't recall her ever being shown. In the Marvel comics series of the seventies ("Terror On The POTA") Brutus' wife (wasn't her name Zena, or something like that) was briefly shown...but she was the only one. And Dr. Zaius mentioned in POTA that "his granddaughter played with human dolls", to Taylor. Mainly, any females shown were all chimps (Zira, Lisa, and Ari...) Zach
-------Original Message------- Date: 10/10/2008 12:38:47 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? Where did you get it? from the studio?
--- On Fri, 10/10/08, goapebilly@aol. com <
goapebilly@aol. com> wrote:
> From: goapebilly@aol. com <goapebilly@aol. com> > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups. com > Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 10:38 AM > the piece seen on toms site is actually mine ,i hadit done > with a zira head > and pose for display.i dont know if it was a prototype > female gorilla costume > or not.ive been told they thought of the ideal ,that's > why the color to match > the gorilla outfits.i have seen only one b/w costume test > shot of it and a > female chimp was wearing it in photo.the buckles also
> match the ones worn the > gorilla boots in planet ,is another reason piece was > supposed to be female > gorilla.except for the color and buckles on chest ,it is > exactly the same as > the green female chimp costumes.i know this doesn't > answer the question but has > been told to me by several sources.i have shown it to > brian also as he > doubts it is a female gorilla he is not 100% sure. > goapebilly > > In a message dated 10/10/2008 9:11:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight > Time, > digitalcinema@ yahoo.com writes: > > > > > That's not a gorilla - it's Zira. She's even > hold her notes (That Taylor > steals). The material is just a different color and has > clasps on the chest. > I kinda like it. > - Scott B. >
> --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Dave B > <smugster2000@ smugster2> wrote: > > > From: Dave B <smugster2000@ smugster2> > Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups. To: > Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 8:41 AM > > > > I think the previous post had a bad link > > try here and scroll down > > <_http://www.tomspina designs.com/ Displays..html > (http://www.tomspina designs.com/ Displays..html") > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening
> at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! > (http://local. mapquest. com/?ncid= emlcntnew0000000 1)
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Message: 48969 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.html Other female chips were, Ann - Galen's mother, Fauna- the blind chimp, Kira - Galan's past love, Zantes, Jillia (Farmer's wife & Daughter), Wanda - the Interrogator, and Carsia - Galen's second love?
Also the female doctor that give the human the antidote for the tigher scorpion.
- Scott B.
--- On Sun, 10/12/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 1:29 AM
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You know, it's kind of funny that no female gorillas or orangutans were ever shown in several of the movies, as well as the TV series. Urko mentioned that he had a wife (Elta) but I don't recall her ever being shown.
In the Marvel comics series of the seventies ("Terror On The POTA") Brutus' wife (wasn't her name Zena, or something like that) was briefly shown...but she was the only one.
And Dr. Zaius mentioned in POTA that "his granddaughter played with human dolls", to Taylor. Mainly, any females shown were all chimps (Zira, Lisa, and Ari...)
Zach
-------Original Message----- --
Date: 10/10/2008 12:38:47 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume???
Where did you get it? from the studio? --- On Fri, 10/10/08, goapebilly@aol. com < goapebilly@aol. com> wrote: > From: goapebilly@aol. com < goapebilly@aol. com> > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups. com> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 10:38 AM > the piece seen on toms site is actually mine ,i hadit done > with a zira head > and pose for display.i dont know if it was a prototype > female gorilla costume > or not.ive been told they thought of the ideal ,that's > why the color to match
> the gorilla outfits.i have seen only one b/w costume test > shot of it and a > female chimp was wearing it in photo.the buckles also > match the ones worn the > gorilla boots in planet ,is another reason piece was > supposed to be female > gorilla.except for the color and buckles on chest ,it is > exactly the same as > the green female chimp costumes.i know this doesn't > answer the question but has > been told to me by several sources.i have shown it to > brian also as he > doubts it is a female gorilla he is not 100% sure. > goapebilly > > In a message dated 10/10/2008 9:11:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight > Time, > digitalcinema@ yahoo.com writes: > > > > > That's not a gorilla - it's Zira. She's even > hold her notes (That
Taylor > steals). The material is just a different color and has > clasps on the chest. > I kinda like it. > - Scott B. > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Dave B > <smugster2000@ smugster2> wrote: > > > From: Dave B <smugster2000@ smugster2> > Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups. To: > Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 8:41 AM > > > > I think the previous post had a bad link > > try here and scroll down > > <_ http://www.tomspina designs.com/ Displays..html > ( http://www.tomspina designs.com/ Displays..html") > > > Dave > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ************ **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening > at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! > ( http://local. mapquest. com/?ncid= emlcntnew0000000 1)
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| Group: pota |
Message: 48970 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
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Which episode was that in?
In a message dated 10/12/2008 7:21:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
digitalcinema@... writes:
Also the female doctor that give the human the antidote for the
tigher scorpion.
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Message: 48971 |
From: goapebilly@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
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the antidote for tiger scorpion sting galen received with female dr was the
Horse Race episode goapebilly
In a message dated 10/12/2008 8:23:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:
Which episode was that in?
In a message dated 10/12/2008 7:21:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
digitalcinema@ yahoo.com writes:
Also the female doctor that give the human the antidote for the
tigher scorpion.
- Scott B.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 48972 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
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| Right. Thanks, Scott...I somehow overlooked them. Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 10/12/2008 7:21:30 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? | Other female chips were, Ann - Galen's mother, Fauna- the blind chimp, Kira - Galan's past love, Zantes, Jillia (Farmer's wife & Daughter), Wanda - the Interrogator, and Carsia - Galen's second love? Also the female doctor that give the human the antidote for the tigher scorpion. - Scott B. --- On Sun, 10/12/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote:
From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 1:29 AM | You know, it's kind of funny that no female gorillas or orangutans were ever shown in several of the movies, as well as the TV series. Urko mentioned that he had a wife (Elta) but I don't recall her ever being shown. In the Marvel comics series of the seventies ("Terror On The POTA") Brutus' wife (wasn't her name Zena, or something like that) was briefly shown...but she was the only one.
And Dr. Zaius mentioned in POTA that "his granddaughter played with human dolls", to Taylor. Mainly, any females shown were all chimps (Zira, Lisa, and Ari...) Zach -------Original Message----- -- Date: 10/10/2008 12:38:47 PM Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume???
Where did you get it? from the studio? --- On Fri, 10/10/08, goapebilly@aol. com < goapebilly@aol. com> wrote: > From: goapebilly@aol. com < goapebilly@aol. com> > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups. com> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 10:38 AM > the piece seen on toms site is actually mine ,i hadit done > with a zira head > and pose for display.i dont know if it was a prototype > female gorilla costume > or not.ive been told they thought of the ideal ,that's
> why the color to match > the gorilla outfits.i have seen only one b/w costume test > shot of it and a > female chimp was wearing it in photo.the buckles also > match the ones worn the > gorilla boots in planet ,is another reason piece was > supposed to be female > gorilla.except for the color and buckles on chest ,it is > exactly the same as > the green female chimp costumes.i know this doesn't > answer the question but has > been told to me by several sources.i have shown it to > brian also as he > doubts it is a female gorilla he is not 100% sure. > goapebilly > > In a message dated 10/10/2008 9:11:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight > Time, > digitalcinema@ yahoo.com writes: > > > > > That's not a gorilla - it's Zira. She's even
> hold her notes (That Taylor > steals). The material is just a different color and has > clasps on the chest. > I kinda like it. > - Scott B. > > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Dave B > <smugster2000@ smugster2> wrote: > > > From: Dave B <smugster2000@ smugster2> > Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups. To: > Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 8:41 AM > > > > I think the previous post had a bad link > > try here and scroll down > > <_ http://www.tomspina designs.com/ Displays..html > ( http://www.tomspina designs.com/ Displays..html") > > > Dave > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ************ **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening > at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! > ( http://local. mapquest. com/?ncid= emlcntnew0000000 1) | | |  <.html
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Message: 48973 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
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| I believe that the female doctor who gave Gregor the antidote for Galen's tiger scorpion bite was in the episode "The Horse Race". Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 10/12/2008 7:24:03 AM To:
pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? Which episode was that in? In a message dated 10/12/2008 7:21:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, digitalcinema@ yahoo.com writes: Also the female doctor that give the human the antidote for the tigher scorpion. - Scott B.
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Message: 48974 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
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Sorry for all the misspellings I was half asleep when I wrote that. It should have read "tiger Scorpion".
- Scott B. --- On Sun, 10/12/08, LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> wrote:
From: LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 8:23 AM
Which episode was that in?
In a message dated 10/12/2008 7:21:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, digitalcinema@ yahoo.com writes:
Also the female doctor that give the human the antidote for the tiger scorpion.
- Scott B.
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Message: 48975 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
.htmlis France Nuyen (Alma in BATTLE) still around? Yes, she's still around. Much older, of course. I saw her a few months ago on TCM when they where showing films featuring Asian actors. She was in a couple short featurettes.
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Message: 48976 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
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| That's okay, Scott...everyone does that. Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 10/12/2008 11:16:26 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? | The episode was THE HORSE RACE Sorry for all the misspellings I was half asleep when I wrote that. It should have read "tiger Scorpion". - Scott B. --- On Sun, 10/12/08, LordTZer0@AOL. com <LordTZer0@AOL. com> wrote:
From: LordTZer0@AOL. com <LordTZer0@AOL. com> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 8:23 AM
Which episode was that in? In a message dated 10/12/2008 7:21:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, digitalcinema@ yahoo.com writes: Also the female doctor that give the human the antidote for the tiger scorpion. - Scott B. |
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Message: 48977 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Robinson Crusoe on Mars |
.htmlI read your amazon review of Robinson Crusoe on Mars and I'm glad you
pointed out everything didn't carry over from the laserdisc. Good to
know. I sold mine on ebay when it was still going for $250 (although
mine was autographed by the two leads & the writer) now that it goes
for significantly less I'm going to buy it again. Thanks for the info. Hold on just a second... I made a mistake in that review, but Amazon won't let you correct your mistakes.
I can't remember everything, but I discovered that the trailer for RCOM on the Criterion DVD does in fact have the alternate audio from the poster collector on it, carried over from the laserdisc -- they just don't tell you that anywhere on the disc, but it's there, just switch the audio on your DVD player remote. However, the DVD doesn't have as many pages of text and images that where in the supplementals of the laserdisc(s).
The image (now anamorphic) is much better on the DVD, of course, and I made my own cover (from the original 1-sheet, one of which I own along with an insert poster) because I think the Criterion cover stinks.
Did you get Paul Mantee and Victor Lundin to autograph the LD in person, or did you send it to them? If I'd done that, I wouldn'
t have sold it.
BTW, for those that don't know, "Robinson Crusoe on Mars," which if it had to have that title should have more correctly been "A Robinson Crusoe on Mars," is a 1964 film from Paramount about a stranded astronaut and his monkey trying to survive on the bleak Martian landscape, which back in 1964 most didn't know just how bleak it is! It's not a great movie, but it has a minor cult following.
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Message: 48978 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Appliance from Apemania |
.htmlI went over to Dan's house yesterday and met Tom, and they made a lifemold of my face. It was FANTASTIC.
Jessica.
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:32 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
There is also a gap that has to be filled beneath the ears. I bought some ears from Apemania and had to glue hair all the way around the back and lobe of the ear to hang
at the same length as the wig.
John
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Zira Appliance from Apemania
I found this for hair. Do you think it's too short?
Jessica. Looks a little too short, but maybe you've got a small head!
I noticed the last time I watched the McDowall home movie of him being made up that not only does he have a wig that covers his head, but then he has a little hair piece that covers the front of the wig on his forehead, then they glue individual hairs in front of that!
There's a whole lotta hair going on in the original POTA!
-- Rory
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Message: 48979 |
From: John B Kirtley |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Appliance from Apemania |
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Dear Jessica,
Can't wait to see it.
John
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Zira Appliance from
Apemania
I went over to Dan's house yesterday and met Tom, and they made a lifemold
of my face. It was FANTASTIC.
Jessica.
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:32 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@ hotmail.com>
wrote:
There is also a gap that has to be filled beneath
the ears. I bought some ears from Apemania and had to glue hair all the way
around the back and lobe of the ear to hang
at the same length as the wig.
John
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Zira Appliance from Apemania
I found this for hair. Do you think it's too short?
Jessica. Looks a little too short, but maybe you've got
a small head!
I noticed the last time I watched the McDowall home movie of him being
made up that not only does he have a wig that covers his head, but then he has
a little hair piece that covers the front of the wig on his forehead, then
they glue individual hairs in front of that!
There's a whole lotta hair going on in the original POTA!
-- Rory
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Message: 48980 |
From: m c |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
.html*** Yeah, that Dianne Stanley could really act... That was some of the best on screen sleeping ever, very convincing... And the guy who played Jones, best floppy corpse ever... Those two may have actually been decent actors outside of their respective APES roles, I don't know being I never seen them in anything else, but face it they really didn't act in APES: They were human props...
I'm not quite sure what you meant by "who the human extras were in POTA": Do you mean the wild tribe? I think most of them were just local townsfolk, and if my memory is right, I think most of them were Native Americans... Being that most of them didn't look all that old, I'd guess a lot of those people could still be alive...
And yes, France Nuyen is still alive and kicking... ***
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I agree totally, Rob. The same applies for Dianne Stanley (Lt. Stewart in POTA), who the human extras were in POTA, and is France Nuyen (Alma in BATTLE) still around?
Zach
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Date: 10/10/2008 12:39:04 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] The TV show
Hi there!!!
Would really want to know who played the ill-fated Jonesey in ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW.... & if he's still active today
Rob
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Message: 48981 |
From: m c |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.html*** The book store orangutan in CONQUEST is supposed to be female, so there was one non-Chimp female about. ***
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Message: 48982 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
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| Thanks, Rory, I appreciate that. I'd always wondered what had became of her. Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 10/12/08 13:16:15 To:
pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: The TV show
is France Nuyen (Alma in BATTLE) still around? Yes, she's still around. Much older, of course. I saw her a few months ago on TCM when they where showing films featuring Asian actors. She was in a couple short featurettes.
-- Rory
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Message: 48983 |
From: James |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlNo it isn't. If you read the final shooting script on Hunter's site (https://pota.goatley.com/scripts/pota_conquest_finalshooting.pdf) and turn to page 12 the Orangutan in the bookstore is identified as a he.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c <aboro3085@...> wrote: > > *** The book store orangutan in CONQUEST is supposed to be female, so there was one non-Chimp female about. *** >
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Message: 48984 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
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| Thanks so much, I appreciate that. Yes, I was referring to the wild tribe...and now that you mention it, I did read that some of POTA was supposed to have been filmed around Page, Arizona, which is an area that has a large Indian population. Again, thanks to you and to Rory for the information. Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 10/12/2008 3:25:47 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] The TV show | *** Yeah, that Dianne Stanley could really act... That was some of the best on screen sleeping ever, very convincing... And the guy who played Jones, best floppy corpse ever... Those two may have actually been decent actors outside of their respective APES roles, I don't know being I never seen them in anything else, but face it they really didn't act in APES: They were human props...
I'm not quite sure what you meant by "who the human extras were in POTA": Do you mean the wild tribe? I think most of them were just local townsfolk, and if my memory is right, I think most of them were Native Americans... Being that most of them didn't look all that old, I'd guess a lot of those people could still be alive... And yes, France Nuyen is still alive and kicking... *** --- On Sun, 10/12/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> Subject: Re: [pota] The TV show To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 12:10 AM | I agree totally, Rob. The same applies for Dianne Stanley (Lt. Stewart in POTA), who the human extras were in POTA, and is France Nuyen (Alma in BATTLE) still around? Zach -------Original Message------- Date:
10/10/2008 12:39:04 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] The TV show Hi there!!!
Would really want to know who played the ill-fated Jonesey in ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW.... & if he's still active today
Rob
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Message: 48985 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
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| Oh, yes...I remember the female orangutan now. Once again, thanks. Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 10/12/2008 3:26:25 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? *** The book store orangutan in CONQUEST is supposed to be female, so there was one non-Chimp female about. ***
--- On Sun, 10/12/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote: From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 12:29 AM |
You know, it's kind of funny that no female gorillas or orangutans were ever shown
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Message: 48986 |
From: digitalcinema |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Something I had made a long time ago... |
.htmlI'm continuing my foray into my collection that has been packed away
for a long time. Here's an item for you "Apesters" that was not
commercially produced but rather specially made for me by a friend's
sister's boyfriend. He was a jewelers apprentice and I gave him
instructions for this item. I don't remember what he made it out of,
but it did cost me a bit for the time.
I hope the image comes through I've never posted before with
photobucket.
- Scott B
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Message: 48987 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Robinson Crusoe on Mars |
.htmlYes, I got the autographs in person as well as IB Melchor (however his
name is spelled) at a Starcon in Pasadena shortly after the disc was
released...The three of them were there together... It looked really
cool. I only saw one other guy with the laserdisc getting it
autographed as well. Funny thing, I sold it to a guy that could've
cared less about the autographs, he just was working on completing his
collection of criterion laserdiscs.
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person, or did you send it to them? Â If I'd done that, I wouldn't have
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Message: 48988 |
From: m c |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.html*** I'm just going by what I've heard for the last few years... For all I know, maybe it was a female actress in the make-up playing at being a male orangutan... It's really not all that big of a deal. ***
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From: James <JamesA1102@...> Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 3:34 PM
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Message: 48989 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
.htmlHere's a semi recent pic of France Nuyen..she is very active with the Screen Actors Guild...
Tim
--- On Sun, 10/12/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
> From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The TV show
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 4:32 PM
> Thanks, Rory, I appreciate that. I'd always wondered
> what had became of her
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Message: 48990 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
.htmlI did read that some of POTA was supposed to have been filmed around Page, Arizona, which is an area that has a large Indian population. Navaho to be exact. In fact, they own the land Page is built upon and in a few decades it's due to go back to the tribe.
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Message: 48991 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
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She still looks good considering it's been 35 years since Battle came
out.
Bruce
In a message dated 10/12/2008 9:08:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
apefan23@... writes:
Here's
a semi recent pic of France Nuyen..she is very active with the Screen Actors
Guild...
Tim
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Message: 48992 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/12/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
.htmlHere's a semi recent pic of France Nuyen..she is very active with the Screen Actors Guild...
Tim Did you know she was the original "Suzy Wong"? She starred in the play on Broadway in the late fifties. Her co-star was William Shatner, and later they would co-star in an episode of "Star Trek." I also recently found out she was once married to Robert Culp after they met when she guess-starred in an episode of "I Spy."
-- Rory
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Message: 48993 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Appliance from Apemania |
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When I make apes or other creatures with longer
muzzles, I try to incorporate the person into it. For my Comic-Con apes,
Julius had my sons teeth and Zira had Lacey's teeth. Maybe you should have
Dan and Tom incorporate YOUR teeth in the appliance.
Jeff B
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Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:39
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Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Zira Appliance
from Apemania
I went over to Dan's house yesterday and met Tom, and they made a
lifemold of my face. It was FANTASTIC.
Jessica.
On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 12:32 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@ hotmail.com>
wrote:
There is also a gap that has to be filled
beneath the ears. I bought some ears from Apemania and had to glue hair all
the way around the back and lobe of the ear to hang
at the same length as the wig.
John
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Zira Appliance from
Apemania
I found this for hair. Do you think it's too short?
Jessica. Looks a little too short, but maybe you've
got a small head!
I noticed the last time I watched the McDowall home movie of him being
made up that not only does he have a wig that covers his head, but then he
has a little hair piece that covers the front of the wig on his forehead,
then they glue individual hairs in front of that!
There's a whole lotta hair going on in the original POTA!
-- Rory
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Message: 48994 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Megos? |
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Message: 48995 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
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I didn't know she was married to Culp I met him at a convention once-he was
kind of crabby that day...maybe I would be, too if I had to sign autographs and
listen to fans all day.
Bruce
In a message dated 10/12/2008 9:58:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
Here's a semi recent pic of
France Nuyen..she is very active with the Screen Actors
Guild...
Tim Did you know she was the original "Suzy Wong"?
She starred in the play on Broadway in the late fifties. Her
co-star was William Shatner, and later they would co-star in an episode of
"Star Trek." I also recently found out she was once married to Robert
Culp after they met when she guess-starred in an episode of "I Spy."
-- Rory
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Message: 48996 |
From: Robin Medford |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
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I actually met her at a U.S. sci-fi convention during the late 90s,
where Linda Harrison had also attended - both were really sweet & to
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Message: 48997 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Megos? |
.html> Have the new Megos actually appeared anywhere yet? John, Scrolls.
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Message: 48998 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Megos? |
.htmlI was wondering that myself! I haven't seen any on ebay....
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> Subject: [pota] Megos?
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
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Message: 48999 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: France Nuyen (Was: The TV show) |
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I didn't know she was married to Culp I met him at a convention once-he was
kind of crabby that day...maybe I would be, too if I had to sign autographs and
listen to fans all day.
Bruce
France Nuyen and Robert Culp were married for only about four or five years in the late 60s/early 70s. As I told you, she met him when she signed to do an episode of "I Spy." I found this out listening to Culp's commentary on the Season One DVDs for "I Spy." He sounds to me like he's got or had a huge ego and was very full of himself. Anyway, he tells the story that his first "date" with Nuyen was to show her the beach location in Southern Cal. where the episode of "I Spy" was going to be filmed. This was in October 1965. He asked her to meet him at the beach at 8 A.M. the next morning. What he didn't know, and wouldn't find out until years later, was that Nuyen was unaware that the next morning was the first day of Daylight Savings Time. She didn't know to put her clock back an hour the night before, so she got to the beach an hour early and had to wait for him all alone. He said that she
didn't say a thing about it at the time but was secretly furious over it, and years later when she divorced him, she cited this incident as one of the reasons why.
I
also believe I read someplace that France Nuyen and Marlon Brando had an affair in the late fifties or early sixties, and that when he dumped her, she tried to kill herself or had a nervous breakdown at least.
Also, do you folks known that France Nuyen once played Charlton Heston's mistress in a 1962 movie called DIAMOND HEAD? In it, she dies giving birth to his baby.
-- Rory
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Date: 10/13/2008 |
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Yes it is.
That was a female.
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Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: EMCE Toys APES (was: Megos?) |
.htmlI contacted the guy who owns EMCE Toys (the company that is manufacturing these figures) and he said that the Cornelius/Soldier Ape pack is supposed to be leaving China in a couple of weeks, with the Zira/Dr. Zaius pack arriving here a couple weeks after that.
I also asked about the third set that was initially supposed to be made, Ursus/Astronaut and he said they're not doing it (not now at least) because Diamond Select only wants to do the 4 apes right now.
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From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Blu-ray Disc Features |
.html.html Just went to www.foxhome.com and typed in "Planet of the Apes" on the their search engine.
This is the information it gave me on the blu-ray features for each disc (took snap shots).
Sorry but only Beneath, Escape and Battle were available.
Enjoy.
Al
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Date: 10/13/2008 |
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Yes it is.
That was a female.
Looks like a woman under the makeup to me too, but for James the script's the thing. So you're talkin' to a conservative orangutan there!
-- Rory
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Date: 10/13/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Blu-ray Disc Features |
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Just went to www.foxhome. com and typed in "Planet of the Apes" on the their search engine.
This is the information it gave me on the blu-ray features for each disc (took snap shots).
It gives the running time of BENEATH as 100 minutes. That's five minutes longer than the version we all know.
OMG!!! This is a longer version of BENEATH!!!! What else could be included? Maybe those scenes with Cornelius sorting the humans and Ursus, Zaius and the Minister talking politics, and the fat mutant doing whatever it was the fat mutant did that we didn't get to see!
OMG!!!! OMG!!!!
On the other hand, it's most probably just a typo.
-- Rory ;)
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Date: 10/13/2008 |
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.html.html Well, one thing it does prove, is that there is no "6th Disc" in the boxset. All features will be on their own discs. Beneath features "Alpha Omega", Escape features "Escape Secrets" and so on. Also case in point, Battle "Theatrical Version" and "Extended Version." Therefore Conquest should be the same. "Theatrical Version" and "Unrated Version." Also hinting toward the fact that the Unrated Version will also be in HD. Sweet. :o)
I remember someone suggesting that perhaps the boxset will only bring the Conquest "Unrated Version."
Well, that may not be the case. But on the other hand I'm getting both boxset and single discs, so it really makes no difference to me. But just in case anyone was wondering about it.
Al
----- Original Message ---- From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:42:23 PM Subject: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features
Just went to www.foxhome. com and typed in "Planet of the Apes" on the their search engine.
This is the information it gave me on the blu-ray features for each disc (took snap shots).
It gives the running time of BENEATH as 100 minutes. That's five minutes longer than the version we all know.
OMG!!! This is a longer version of BENEATH!!!! What else could be included? Maybe those scenes with Cornelius sorting the humans and Ursus, Zaius and the Minister talking politics, and the fat mutant doing whatever it was the fat mutant did that we didn't get to see!
OMG!!!! OMG!!!!
On the other hand, it's most probably just a typo.
-- Rory ;)
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Message: 49006 |
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Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Female orangutan spotted! |
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Message: 49007 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: OT: Lalo Schifrin autobiography |
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Your mission, should you chose to accept it,
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Date: 10/14/2008 |
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From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
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.html.html Now I've seen it all. That was quite funny. :o)
Al
----- Original Message ---- From: Dave B <smugster2000@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:04:27 AM Subject: [pota] Female orangutan spotted!
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Date: 10/14/2008 |
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She has eye shadow on. I don't remember a single male
orangutan with eye shadow. I think the script may have
called for a male orang, but there was a deliberate attempt
to have at least one female character in there who wasn't
a chimp. Too bad no name was used, but I'm sure that
was because in the script the orang in question was male.
In a message dated 10/12/2008 6:23:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
aboro3085@... writes:
*** I'm just going by what I've heard for the last few years...
For all I know, maybe it was a female actress in the make-up playing at being
a male orangutan... It's really not all that big of a deal.
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Date: 10/14/2008 |
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.htmlI think Fat Mutants just eat alot. That is "radio-active food.
- Scott B. --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:
From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...> Subject: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 10:42 PM
Just went to www.foxhome. com and typed in "Planet of the Apes" on the their search engine.
This is the information it gave me on the blu-ray features for each disc (took snap shots).
It gives the running time of BENEATH as 100 minutes. That's five minutes longer than the version we all know.
OMG!!! This is a longer version of BENEATH!!!! What else could be included? Maybe those scenes with Cornelius sorting the humans and Ursus, Zaius and the Minister talking politics, and the fat mutant doing whatever it was the fat mutant did that we didn't get to see!
OMG!!!! OMG!!!!
On the other hand, it's most probably just a typo.
-- Rory ;)
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From: James |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlWhether it is a woman or not playing the part is sheer speculation.
Even if a woman did play the part it doesn't matter. A woman played one of the gorillas in Beneath. The script says the character is a he, so it is a he.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote: > > > Yes it is. > That was a female. > > > In a message dated 10/12/2008 3:36:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > JamesA1102@... writes: > > No it isn't. If you read the final shooting script on Hunter's site > (_https://pota.https://pota.https://pota.http://pohttps://pota.<Whtt_ > (https://pota.goatley.com/scripts/pota_conquest_finalshooting.pdf) ) and turn to page 12 the > Orangutan in the bookstore is identified as a he. > > **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) >
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From: James |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
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.htmlWhat eyeshadow?

The Oraganutan in question looks androgynous enough so it is impossible to make a determination. Anything in regard to the filmmakers' intentions is complete speculation.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote: > > > She has eye shadow on. I don't remember a single male > orangutan with eye shadow. I think the script may have > called for a male orang, but there was a deliberate attempt > to have at least one female character in there who wasn't > a chimp. Too bad no name was used, but I'm sure that > was because in the script the orang in question was male. > > > > In a message dated 10/12/2008 6:23:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > aboro3085@... writes: > > *** I'm just going by what I've heard for the last few years... For all I > know, maybe it was a female actress in the make-up playing at being a male > orangutan... It's really not all that big of a deal. *** > > > **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination.
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From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlBut she doesn't have a beard - hair under her chin, like Zira.
Al the males of any species do.
- Scott B. --- On Tue, 10/14/08, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
From: James <JamesA1102@...> Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 11:28 AM
What eyeshadow?
The Oraganutan in question looks androgynous enough so it is impossible to make a determination. Anything in regard to the filmmakers' intentions is complete speculation.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, LordTZer0@.. . wrote: > > > She has eye shadow on. I don't remember a single male > orangutan with eye shadow. I think the script may have > called for a male orang, but there was a deliberate attempt > to have at least one female character in there who wasn't > a chimp. Too bad no name was used, but I'm sure that > was because in the script the orang in question was male. > > > > In a message dated 10/12/2008 6:23:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > aboro3085@.. . writes: > > *** I'm just going by what I've heard for the last few years... For all I > know, maybe it was a female actress in the make-up playing at being a male > orangutan... It's really not all that big of a deal. *** > > > ************ **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. > Dining, Movies,
Events, News & more. Try it out > (http://local. mapquest. com/?ncid= emlcntnew0000000 2) >
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From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlThe script is only a starting point. It do not make it positive proof. Changes occur on the set all the time and something like this can happen. It doesn't change the story or any lines since a name was not given to the character. It's only a visual change and as long as it was done in one day without the need for retakes it need not be documented. Only the continuity girl/person's note may reflect the change.
- Scott B. --- On Tue, 10/14/08, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
From: James <JamesA1102@...> Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 11:14 AM
Whether it is a woman or not playing the part is sheer speculation.
Even if a woman did play the part it doesn't matter. A woman played one of the gorillas in Beneath. The script says the character is a he, so it is a he.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, LordTZer0@.. . wrote: > > > Yes it is. > That was a female. > > > In a message dated 10/12/2008 3:36:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > JamesA1102@. .. writes: > > No it isn't. If you read the final shooting script on Hunter's site > (_https://pota. https://pota. https://pota. http://pohttp: //pota.<Whtt_ > (https://pota. goatley.com/ scripts/pota_ conquest_ finalshooting. pdf) ) and turn to page 12 the > Orangutan in the bookstore is identified as a he. > > ************ **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out > (http://local. mapquest. com/?ncid= emlcntnew0000000 2) >
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Message: 49016 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
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What eyeshadow?
The Oraganutan in question looks androgynous enough so it is impossible to make a determination. Anything in regard to the filmmakers' intentions is complete speculation.
That's a girl under that makeup, James. Just look at those eyes. Can't you tell these things, James, you silly?
-- Rory
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Message: 49017 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: (OT) Micheal Wilson Bio |
.htmlI recently found this information in a book about LAWRENCE OF ARABIA. Michael Wilson was one of the screenwriters on that film, but didn't receive on-screen credit for over thirty years because he was blacklisted.
Anyway, he's the primary screenwriter on PLANET OF THE APES, yet most here, I'll bet, don't know much about him. I learned a lot from this book and I've copied out most of what the book has to say about him below. It doesn't have anything to say about APES, but if you're familiar with most of PLANET's dialogue, you can sure tell from what's told below about Wilson that the film is very much a reflection of the man.
It's kind of long, but I hope most of you will read it. You're not going to get this kind of information from any Fox DVD extra.
-- Rory
Michael Wilson (1914-1978) grew up in San Francisco, the son of a fairly prosperous businessman. Quite religious as a boy, he was inclined toward the priesthood and credits his deep faith in Catholic doctrine -- to-wit, that all people are created equal before God -- with his early feelings of indignity and outrage toward any form of racism. "I simply would not join in the racist slurs that many of my companions had about Neg
roes or Filipinos or Japanese and the rest. . . . I can't say that I fought racism in any articulated way; I simply refused to join it." These attitudes alienated him from his often anti-Semitic father, a distance compounded by the sense that "I did not like the philistine life represented by [him], the Babbitry." Though he adds that "this was a world I wanted wanted to shun," Wilson was hardly a rebel, not for lack of courage so much as love of family combined with a deep sense of social tact.
Blessed with uncommon intelligence and more than average talent, he was by his own admission a "golden boy," a top student and a successful athlete -- a robust, handsome youth who was not only admired by but also popular with his classmates. Below the surface of a conventionally successful adolescent career, however, there smoldered an unarticulated discontent. As his faith in Catholicism began to wane in his senior year of high school, he was searching for a higher moral purpose in life, one that would replace religion.
In 1932, Wilson entered the University of California at Berkeley, without the blessing of his father, who never had a college education and did not see the point of one. He nevertheless recognized his son's scholarly aptitude and agreed to pay for school tuition and other expenses. In his first two
years of college Wilson's reading of literature, which had never been slight, grew by leaps and bounds. "I used to spend hours [in the university library], by the day and by the night. And in no organized way, just kind of a feast of reading." In spite of his literary interests, which included editing a literary magazine, he decided to major in philosophy, a choice he interpreted retrospectively as a desire "to find out why we were on this earth and what man's role was in the universe, if the answers were not to be found in the Catholic faith." It is interesting, and not insignificant in light of the characterization of Lawrence he would help to forge, that Wilson continued to lead what he called a "double life," expressed this time by his joining a fraternity of which he became president in his senior year, at the same time that he began to show an interest in the larger political movements of his day. The mid-1930s saw a number of
important labor strikes in California and the country at large, which, Wilson commented, "demonstrated to students like myself that . . . the working class, led by maritime workers, were ready to fight back against the bosses." The San Francisco longshoreman strike of 1936, for example, inspired Wilson to write a short story that was published in Esquire. But the call of political activism was still relatively faint.
In spite of the fact that
he was an excellent student and was encouraged by his college professors to go into college teaching, Wilson had decided by his senior year that he wanted to become a writer. Following the example of one of his adolescent idols, Ernest Hemingway, he went to Europe and made his base in Paris in order to get a new perspective on his life and country and, he hoped, to find themes for his writing. He traveled widely, eventually making his way to Moscow, where he tried unsuccessfully to obtain a job as a newspaper correspondent. As was the case for so many of his generation who were disillusioned by capitalism and fearful of fascism's rise, the politics of the Soviet Union held a special fascination for him. On his return to Paris, he stopped briefly in Berlin, where he visited the Museum of Communism, which the fascists had defaced with anti-Communist and anti-Semitic slogans. He came across glass cases stuffed with insignia worn by former Party members, executed or left
languishing in prison, and, when one of the guards were not looking, managed to open one and steal a memento. He clung to it like a fetish to ward off the growing threat of fascism. Back in Paris he read radical literature, chiefly Marxist. He tried enlisting in the Spanish brigade; he attended a few Communist rallies. Most of all, he wanted to write socially aware fiction without having it turn into political tracts.
C2 In regard to his growing sense of his own artistic "activism," it is significant that Wilson began to frequent the movies of Paris. To our expatriate it seemed that films had been taken seriously as works of art by the French critical and intellectual establishment long before they had been in the United States. Watching french cinema, the artistically ambitious Wilson may have had an inkling that writing for the movies could be not only a political act but a rewarding one as well. He was most impressed by Renoir's Grand Illusion (1937). Not coincidentally, the anti-war film would become one of Wilson's staples, first in his treatment of Friendly Persuasion (1956), a complex Civil War story about a farmer played by Gary Cooper who is torn between his Quaker religious conviction and secular loyalties of various kinds, but most spectacularly, of course, in
Bridge On The River Kwai (1957).
When Wilson returned to the United States in 1938, his political radicalism, if anything, had deepened. He joined the Communist Party, with which he would remain affiliated until 1956. His commitments were once again ambivalent, however. It was not love of Communism or socialism that motivated him "so much as . . . a hated of Babbitry, chauvinism, racism, and economic exploitation in a capitalist society. I . . . felt that fascism had to be stopped." He played at first ed
ucational role by taking a graduate post in Berkeley's Department of English. "I was teaching classes in Marxism, primarily to students, undergraduate or graduate, who, we felt, were close to the party, moving in that direction. And so I gave them some courses in basics."
Party work was time-consuming, however, and after attending rallies and meetings, Wilson did not have much energy left over for his fiction. Nor was college teaching an attractive option either. He tried some odd jobs -- working for a year in Alaska on the salmon run, for a brief time on a socialist or collective farm in Baja, California, where he got the idea of doing a series of short stories about minority workers -- and then decided to try his luck in Hollywood. He moved there in 1940.
Like many earlier writers with high aspirations, Wilson had a snobbish attitude toward the film mecca. He saw employment there purely as a way of making a living, so that he could then become financially independent in order to devote himself full-time to writing the great American novel. He changed his attitude soon enough. "Although I . . . after my arrival read Nathaniel West's book The Day of the Locusts, . . . I really didn't share his gloomy view of Hollywood or his hatred of it." He had no track record as a scriptwriter
and somehow had to learn his craft. He solved this problem by going to the movies, even B movies, for he reasoned that he could learn by figuring out how to write better ones. He also volunteered to work for next to nothing on low-budget productions that were willing to take a chance on beginners. For his first movie he had to crank out the scenes one day before they were shot on the set, a nerve-racking experience from which he nevertheless acquired an iron discipline.
Wilson, meanwhile, got to meet some of Hollywood's political radicals like John Howard Lawson, author of a number of screenplays. Lawson had a profound influence on Wilson's developing understanding of himself as a writer for films, especially in connection with the problem of political expression in works of art intended for mass consumption:
He often spoke of the struggle for content in motion pictures, by which he meant that although it was extremely difficult to do a truly progressive and honest film in Hollywood, we, as radicals and Marxists, had an obligation to try our damnedest to do so; and that one could accomplish certain things, even in pictures which thematically seemed silly or vapid. And I don't mean by that the20 oversimplification which his enemies would say this is, the injection of Communist propaganda. That isn't what he meant at all. He meant the injection of honesty and humanism in the pictures which lacked it.
As an example of what Lawson meant, Wilson wrote for one of the Hopalong Cassidy pictures of 1942 a screenplay called "Border Patrol," in which he used stories he had heard years earlier in Texas about Mexican migrant workers who were exploited after crossing the border. Those episodes were some of the most popular in the entire series.
In the meantime, World War II intervened, and Wilson volunteered as a candidate in officer's school. Though he could stomach the rigors of training, the social attitudes of the soldiers sickened him. "What I was unprepared for was the racism and chauvinism and general ignorance both in my fellow candidates and in the instructors and officers. . . . there were certain officers or noncoms I wanted to kill, literally murder . . . because they were such dirty anti-semitic bastards." These experiences would deeply inform Wilson's biting satire of army mentality in both Kwai and Lawrence of Arabia (1962). Stationed in the Pacific, he saw action as a marine lieutenant in
the invasions of Kwajalein, Guam, and Saipan, experiences that proved invaluable when it came to writing about war in Burma.
After the war, he returned to Hollywood. Things went well for him at first. He wrote the script for Frank Capra's It's a Wonderful Life (1946) a year after his return. His screen adaptation of Theodore Dreiser's An American Tragedy, which came to be called A Place in the Sun (1951), was a great success, starring Montgomery Clift and Elizabeth Taylor, and directed by George Stevens. Wilson was brought into the production specifically to preserve the spirit of Dreiser's social criticism. He received an Academy Award for his work on the film, a clear sign from the industry that he was now a top writer. But HUAC had already begun its investigations of Hollywood figures suspected of being Communist sympathizers, among whom were Wilson's closest friends and colleagues such as Dalton Trumbo and John Richard Lawson. They were part of the "Hollywood Ten" who were given prison
sentences for refusing to testify to the committee and name names. By 1951 Wilson, too, had been called to testify before HUAC, a summons he courageously declined. His Academy Award for A Place in the Sun was deemed a "mistake." By now he was dropped by MGM and was considered anathema in the industry. When William Wyler, the director of Friendly Persuasion (1956), dropped Wilson's name f
rom the film's credits, Wilson stubbornly fought back by seeking arbitration from the Guild of Writers in America. The guild ruled in his favor, but the studio decided to omit entirely the mention of a screenwriter rather than reinstate Wilson's name.
In protest of the McCarthy hearings, Wilson decided to go into independent production with another blacklisted artist, Paul Jerrico. The result of their collaboration, Salt of the Earth (1953), was to become a cult classic among the left. In his script Wilson told the story of a strike by badly exploited Mexican American laborers. He used some of the stories he had heard in Texas about the plight of migrant workers for his material. But he had learned from his friend Lawson, the point was not to propagandize for this or that creed but to show the struggles of people against inequalities and injustice in their human dimensions.
Because the film is such a clear indictment of international capital, not to mention a clear incitement of labor to resist it with the help of socialist or Communist organizations, it was blacklisted in the United States. Tremendous pressure was put on distributors not to carry it and on movie theatres not to show it. Wilson had achieved his goal of writing a film with a powerful political message having to do with the working class, ge
nder, and race and ethnicity, and yet it would not be seen widely, if at all, in the United States. How, then, was he to script the political into films of mass circulation and appeal controlled by a conservative, even timid industry? It was clear that if he were to continue working in Hollywood, Wilson would have to throw in his lot with independent producers, some of whome operated within a complex international framework that transcended the borders of a chauvinistic America.
This was not altogether a bad proposition for Wilson artistically either. Independent producers were behind some of the best pictures released in the 1950s. Furthermore, a respected scriptwriter like Wilson could have considerably more input into an independently produced film than would be possible in a studio production. As he explained in an interview with the French journal Positif:
An evolution has occurred in the last fifty years in the situation for the American screenwriter with the decline of the major studios and the appearance of "independent" companies. . . . Those [screenwriters] who have been employed by the "independents" have profited from a somewhat elevated proposition. I don't say by that the screenwriters (at least being equa
lly producers) had control over the production; but I am of the opinion that American screenwriters have more influence on the film than their European colleagues. It's very difficult for me to explain this to some Frenchmen. In France, with a few exceptions, the director engages one or several screenwriters to assist him in the preparation of his own ideas; in America the scripts are sometimes completely done before the director is chosen.
[Wilson went into "exile" for several years in the late 50s/early 60s in Paris, where he wrote his drafts of the scripts from Kwai and Lawrence, before returning to the California to contribute to several "Hollywood" films, most notably Planet of the Apes (1968). His last filmed screenplay was Che! (1969).]
From: "Lawrence of Arabia: a film's anthropology" by Steven C. Caton, copyright 1999, University of California Press. Unless indicted otherwise, all quotations are from Michael Wilson, I Am the Sum of My Actions, an oral history of his life and career by Joel Gardner, done shortly before Wilson's death. It remains unpublished but is available at the library of the University of Calif
ornia, UCLA.
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Message: 49018 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
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But she doesn't have a beard - hair under her chin, like Zira.
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Yeah, that's a good point, Scott. Her facial hair is just like Zira's.
IT'S A GIRL!!!! Now if only we could magically get all the script drafts to say that THEN James would except it, but you might as well beat your head against the wall.
-- Rory
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Message: 49019 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlyou beat me to it with the pic! HEre's a side view....I think the mannerisms are more female than male....and that's true about the chin hair!
and to his/her credit...she/he was only off by one book! "A Young Queen Falls" is the next book to the left!
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:
From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...> Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 12:11 PM
What eyeshadow?
The Oraganutan in question looks androgynous enough so it is impossible to make a determination. Anything in regard to the filmmakers' intentio ns is complete speculation.
That's a girl under that makeup, James. Just look at those eyes. Can't you tell these things, James, you silly?
-- Rory
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Message: 49020 |
From: Tim |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
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Message: 49021 |
From: ~~Joanne~~ |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlit is a great pic.
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 1:10 PM
you beat me to it with the pic! HEre's a side view....I think the mannerisms are more female than male....and that's true about the chin hair!
and to his/her credit...she/ he was only off by one book! "A Young Queen Falls" is the next book to the left!
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:
From: Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com> Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 12:11 PM
What eyeshadow?
The Oraganutan in question looks androgynous enough so it is impossible to make a determination. Anything in regard to the filmmakers' intentio ns is complete speculation. That's a girl under that makeup, James. Just look at those eyes. Can't you tell these things, James, you silly? -- Rory
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Message: 49022 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & No |
.htmlVery cool, Tim. Thank you for sharing!
Jessica.
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Message: 49023 |
From: James |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlThat all depends on the angle that you look at it. From this angle it looks like the Orangutan has a beard.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote: > > But she doesn't have a beard - hair under her chin, like Zira. > Al the males of any species do. > - Scott B. > > --- On Tue, 10/14/08, James JamesA1102@... wrote: > > From: James JamesA1102@... > Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 11:28 AM > > > > > > > > What eyeshadow? > > The Oraganutan in question looks androgynous enough so it is impossible to make a determination. Anything in regard to the filmmakers' intentions is complete speculation. > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, LordTZer0@ . wrote: > > > > > > She has eye shadow on. I don't remember a single male
> > orangutan with eye shadow. I think the script may have > > called for a male orang, but there was a deliberate attempt > > to have at least one female character in there who wasn't > > a chimp. Too bad no name was used, but I'm sure that > > was because in the script the orang in question was male. > > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/12/2008 6:23:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > aboro3085@ . writes: > > > > *** I'm just going by what I've heard for the last few years... For all I > > know, maybe it was a female actress in the make-up playing at being a male > > orangutan... It's really not all that big of a deal. *** > > > > > > ************ **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. > > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out
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Message: 49024 |
From: James |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
.htmlTrue and I could be wrong but until I see some positive proof that there was an intent to change what was called for in the script, the evidence in the script is the only really evidence that exists. Everything else is sheer speculation.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote: > > The script is only a starting point. It do not make it positive proof. Changes occur on the set all the time and something like this can happen. It doesn't change the story or any lines since a name was not given to the character. It's only a visual change and as long as it was done in one day without the need for retakes it need not be documented. Only the continuity girl/person's note may reflect the change. > > - Scott B. > > --- On Tue, 10/14/08, James JamesA1102@... wrote: > > From: James JamesA1102@... > Subject: [pota] Re: Female gorilla costume??? > To: pota@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 11:14 AM > > > > > > >
> Whether it is a woman or not playing the part is sheer speculation. > Even if a woman did play the part it doesn't matter. A woman played one of the gorillas in Beneath. The script says the character is a he, so it is a he. > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, LordTZer0@ . wrote: > > > > > > Yes it is. > > That was a female. > > > > > > In a message dated 10/12/2008 3:36:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > JamesA1102@ .. writes: > > > > No it isn't. If you read the final shooting script on Hunter's site > > (_https://pota. https://pota. https://pota. http://pohttp: //pota.<Whtt_ > > (https://pota. goatley.com/ scripts/pota_ conquest_ finalshooting. pdf) ) and turn to page 12 the > > Orangutan in the bookstore is identified as a he. > >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49025 |
From: John |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
.htmlThat was really cool. Someone posted a pic or two around the
time "Revolution" was being discussed but I don't think I've seen such
a side by side compairison before. Judging by how well its held up &
unchanged it is, guess it truly was the city of the future. Well past
the 1990's it was suposed to represent.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Thought I had posted these already but I guess not....Here are
> comparisons of Century City from Conquest and Now... (well...August of
> last year)
> Will post more when I have the chance...
>
> http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/c19a
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> Enjoy!
>
> Tim
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49026 |
From: drhasslein |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
.htmlThe alignment in those shots is perfect. How did you know the exact
locations? I posted this before, but in 1990 I was delivering a package
there and stumbled across the bridge, unaware at the time until I saw
it that it was the location. The bridge is gone now, right?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Thought I had posted these already but I guess not....Here are
> comparisons of Century City from Conquest and Now... (well...August of
> last year)
> Will post more when I have the chance...
>
> http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/c19a
>
> Enjoy!
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> Tim
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49027 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/14/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
.html.html Fantastic photos, Tim!
Thanks for sharing that. Looking forward to seeing more.
Al
----- Original Message ---- From: drhasslein <drhasslein@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 6:51:28 PM Subject: [pota] Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now
The alignment in those shots is perfect. How did you know the exact locations? I posted this before, but in 1990 I was delivering a package there and stumbled across the bridge, unaware at the time until I saw it that it was the location. The bridge is gone now, right?
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim" <apefan23@.. .> wrote: > > Thought I had posted these already but I guess not....Here are > comparisons of Century City from Conquest and Now... (well...August of > last year) > Will post more when I have the chance... > > http://movies. ph.groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ photos/browse/ c19a > > Enjoy! > >
Tim >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49028 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
.htmlthe biggest change of course is that they have covered many of the stairs and cement slopes with grass! Most of the area is a large outdoor shopping mall but over by the bridge it's still pretty close.....where the office buildings are.
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, John <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
> From: John <DrZaiusDavis@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 5:59 PM
> That was really cool. Someone posted a pic or two around the
>
> time "Revolution" was being discussed but I
> don't think I've seen such
> a side by side compairison before. Judging by how well its
> held up &
> unchanged it is, guess it truly was the city of the future.
> Well past
> the 1990's it was suposed to represent.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim"
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thought I had posted these already but I guess
> not....Here are
> > comparisons of Century City from Conquest and Now...
> (well...August of
> > last year)
> > Will post more when I have the chance...
> >
> >
> http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/c19a
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > Tim
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49029 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
.htmlI just took a shit load of pics!...trying to remember...then looked at a friends DVD and went back....I still need another visit to capture some areas.....
the bridge is still there...I'll post a comparison tomorrow....
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, drhasslein <drhasslein@...> wrote:
> From: drhasslein <drhasslein@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 6:51 PM
> The alignment in those shots is perfect. How did you know
> the exact
> locations? I posted this before, but in 1990 I was
> delivering a package
> there and stumbled across the bridge, unaware at the time
> until I saw
> it that it was the location. The bridge is gone now, right?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim"
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thought I had posted these already but I guess
> not....Here are
> > comparisons of Century City from Conquest and Now...
> (well...August of
> > last year)
> > Will post more when I have the chance...
> >
> >
> http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/c19a
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > Tim
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49030 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET |
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Planet of
the Apes 40th Anniversary Collection [Blu-ray] (1968)
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49031 |
From: shanter2002 |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Lalo Schifrin autobiography |
.htmlLalo's 'Kelly's Heroes' is one of my all time favourite scores--shows
how versatile the man is.Does he mention Apes, I wonder? Scrolls had
the knee-weakeningly thrill of a very few brief words from him last
time out and we know from Tom Scott's interview that his nickname was
(is?)'shitcan'.He seems a deep thinker and his Apes music is iconic in
its own right. John, Scrolls.
>
> Your mission, should you chose to accept it, is to read about the
autobiography of the guy who did the music for POTA TV.
>
> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38722
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49032 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Cheeta in EW |
| Group: pota |
Message: 49033 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
.html.html Cool! Thanks in advance.
Al
----- Original Message ---- From: "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:29:56 AM Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now
I just took a shit load of pics!...trying to remember...then looked at a friends DVD and went back....I still need another visit to capture some areas.....
the bridge is still there...I'll post a comparison tomorrow....
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, drhasslein <drhasslein@yahoo. com> wrote:
> From: drhasslein <drhasslein@yahoo. com> > Subject: [pota] Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now > To: pota@yahoogroups. com > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 6:51 PM > The alignment in those shots is perfect. How did you know > the exact > locations? I posted this
before, but in 1990 I was > delivering a package > there and stumbled across the bridge, unaware at the time > until I saw > it that it was the location. The bridge is gone now, right? > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim" > <apefan23@.. .> wrote: > > > > Thought I had posted these already but I guess > not....Here are > > comparisons of Century City from Conquest and Now... > (well...August of > > last year) > > Will post more when I have the chance... > > > > > http://movies. ph.groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ photos/browse/ c19a > > > > Enjoy! > > > > Tim >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49034 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET |
.html.html That's where I got mine. Total price with 2 day shipping came out to: $111.00
Not a bad deal.
Al
----- Original Message ---- From: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:33:17 AM Subject: [pota] POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET
Planet of the Apes 40th Anniversary Collection [Blu-ray] (1968)
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49035 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: France Nuyen (Was: The TV show) |
.htmlFascinating stuff, Rory! I didn't know ANY of it.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 6:08 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: France Nuyen (Was: The TV show)
I didn't know she was married to Culp I met him at a convention once-he
was kind of crabby that day...maybe I would be, too if I had to sign
autographs and listen to fans all day.
Bruce
France Nuyen and Robert Culp were married for only about four or five
years in the late 60s/early 70s. As I told you, she met him when she
signed to do an episode of "I Spy." I found this out listening to
Culp's commentary on the Season One DVDs for "I Spy." He sounds to me
like he's got or had a huge ego and was very full of himself. Anyway,
he tells the story that his first "date" with Nuyen was to show her the
beach location in Southern Cal. where the episode of "I Spy" was going
to be filmed. This was in October 1965. He asked her to meet him at
the beach at 8 A.M. the next morning. What he didn't know, and
wouldn't find out until years later, was that Nuyen was unaware that
the next morning was the first day of Daylight Savings Time. She
didn't know to put her clock back an hour the night before, so she got
to the beach an hour early and had to wait for him all
alone. He said
that she didn't say a thing about it at the time but was secretly
furious over it, and years later when she divorced him, she cited this
incident as one of the reasons why.
I also believe I read someplace that France Nuyen and Marlon Brando had
an affair in the late fifties or early sixties, and that when he dumped
her, she tried to kill herself or had a nervous breakdown at least.
Also, do you folks known that France Nuyen once played Charlton
Heston's mistress in a 1962 movie called DIAMOND HEAD? In it, she dies
giving birth to his baby.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49036 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
.htmlAdded a few more... Plus two Satellite views with locations pointed out!
There is one comparison set that contrasts the grass that replaced the stairs. The before pic was submitted by someone in one of the groups. They had taken it a few years before mine but well after Conquest was filmed.
What I'm calling the "Orange Brick" Corridor is seen many times...Lisa walks through it a lot....it's also where the first Massacre takes place. Didn't have any direct correlating shots of this though..the orange brick is no longer there.
http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/c19a
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49037 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: (OT) Micheal Wilson Bio |
.htmlThanks Rory.
That was a fascinating read on Wilson, a man who never really got the
credit he deserved because of the blacklisting. And his upbringing and
views on life sure do reflect in many instances on the POTA script.
PS: I would hardly label this as OT.
Dario
----- Original Message -----
From: Haristas@...
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:21 pm
Subject: [pota] (OT) Micheal Wilson Bio
> I recently found this information in a book about LAWRENCE OF
> ARABIA. Michael Wilson was one of the screenwriters on that film,
> but didn't receive on-screen credit for over thirty years because
> he was blacklisted.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49038 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 10/15/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now |
.html.html Very cool. Makes me wanna to take a trip Century City.
Very cool stuff.
Thanks.
Al
----- Original Message ---- From: "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:53:55 PM Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Conquest/Century City Then & Now
Added a few more... Plus two Satellite views with locations pointed out!
There is one comparison set that contrasts the grass that replaced the stairs. The before pic was submitted by someone in one of the groups. They had taken it a few years before mine but well after Conquest was filmed.
What I'm calling the "Orange Brick" Corridor is seen many times...Lisa walks through it a lot....it's also where the first Massacre takes place. Didn't have any direct correlating shots of this though..the orange brick is no longer there.
http://movies. ph.groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ photos/browse/ c19a
Enjoy!
Tim
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Message: 49039 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: The TV show |
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| Thanks, Tim. I'd always thought that France was attractive. Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 10/12/2008 8:08:22 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The TV show Here's a semi recent pic of France Nuyen..she is very active with the Screen Actors Guild...
Tim
--- On Sun, 10/12/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote:
> From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The TV show > To: pota@yahoogroups. com > Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 4:32 PM > Thanks, Rory, I appreciate that. I'd always wondered > what had became of her > > > > > Zach > > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > > From: Haristas@aol. com > > Date: 10/12/08 13:16:15 > > To: pota@yahoogroups. com > > Subject: [pota] Re: The TV show > > > > > > > > is France Nuyen (Alma in BATTLE) still around? > > Yes, she's still around. Much older, of course. I saw > her a few months ago > on TCM when they where showing films featuring Asian > actors. She was in a > couple short featurettes. > > > > > > -- Rory
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Message: 49040 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Something I had made a long time ago... |
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| Scott, that is a fantastic replica of the Bomb. Zach -------Original Message------- Date: 10/12/2008 5:07:03 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Something I had made a long time ago... I'm continuing my foray into my collection that has been packed away for a long time. Here's an item for you "Apesters" that was not commercially produced but rather specially made for me by a friend's sister's boyfriend. He was a jewelers apprentice and I gave him instructions for this item. I don't remember what he made it out of, but it did cost me a bit for the time. I hope the image comes through I've never posted before with photobucket. - Scott B
[IMG]http://i193. photobucket. com/albums/ z310/ditcin/ alphaomega. jpg[/IMG]
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49041 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Something I had made a long time ago... |
.htmlZac,
I was very pleased when I met with the guy to pick it up. He did a very nice job. I had given him sketches of what it should look like. Still,even with drawings some people have trouble making the jump.
Thanks,
Scott B. --- On Thu, 10/16/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Something I had made a long time ago... To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 5:45 AM
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Scott, that is a fantastic replica of the Bomb.
Zach
-------Original Message----- --
Date: 10/12/2008 5:07:03 PM
Subject: [pota] Something I had made a long time ago...
I'm continuing my foray into my collection that has been packed away for a long time. Here's an item for you "Apesters" that was not commercially produced but rather specially made for me by a friend's sister's boyfriend. He was a jewelers apprentice and I gave him instructions for this item. I don't remember what he made it out of, but it did cost me a bit for the time. I hope the image comes through I've never posted before with photobucket. - Scott B [IMG] http://i193. photobucket. com/albums/ z310/ditcin/ alphaomega. jpg[/IMG]
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49042 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
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Then it's the Gayiest Orang in the Navy!
And should sign up for the Village Apes ASAP!
In a message dated 10/14/2008 10:28:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
JamesA1102@... writes:

The Oraganutan in question looks androgynous
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49043 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
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By that logic if the script had said Governor
Breck's assistant was a white guy then he's
white. Anyone who has seen what scripts
become by the time they hit the screen
knows the script is not Law. And that
eyeshadow wen over the ape makeup
Was this some Tranny Male Orang?
In a message dated 10/14/2008 10:15:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
JamesA1102@... writes:
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| Group: pota |
Message: 49044 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 10/16/2008 |
| Subject: Re: Female gorilla costume??? |
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But she's playing a boy, and . . .
Soon To Be Starring
in a
Major Motion Picture
with Robert Preston
in
VICTOR / VICTORIAPE
Coming Soon
to
a
Theater Near You . . .
In a message dated 10/14/2008 11:27:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
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