--- On Sat, 10/18/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote: From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 11:12 AM I noticed that too...and I'd be willing to bet that it also includes the scene where the three mutants--Caspay, Adiposo (the Fat Man) and the Verger of the cathedral--being gunned down via orders from General Ursus in front of the ruined Radio City Music Hall marquee!      *** I'm quite sure that Rory was just being sarcastic with his comments... You did see that he ended it by saying it probably was just a typo didn't you?   In any case, this alleged scene that nobody else has ever mentioned, it's not even in the script, never existed on film. It was not on the screen in 1970, nor was it on any of the subsequent home video releases... So unless APEMANIA took your false memory and decided to film a fake scene you'll never see anything like the supposed gunning down... This scene no more existed than the proposed "underwater scene" from BENEATH... Saying this scene was real with nothing to back it up is about as productive as saying that Ursus shot a protestor... ***     And what about ESCAPE?  This "Secret Behind ESCAPE" section the disc listed...is that where one could finally see the deleted scene about the third ship taking off right before the AO Bomb exploded, Zira, Cornelius and Milo witnessing the nuclear destruction of the planet, hitting the time warp and landing back on Earth in 1973?     *** You want to know the Secret Behind ESCAPE? The secret was they blew up earth in BENEATH and they used Taylor's raised from the dead ship to jettison back in time. There was no third ship, that's just total bullsh*t. I'll go with James' way of thinking on this for sure by saying "If it was meant to be a third ship, Dehn would have made it a 'third ship' in the script". The script and the film clearly indicate that it was supposed to be Taylor's ship from PLANET.   The "secret" behind ESCAPE?The secret was the apes from the future came back in time carrying the saviour for their kind.     -------Original Message----- --   From: Haristas@aol. com Date: 10/13/2008 9:52:43 PM To: pota@yahoogroups. com Subject: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features   Just went to http://www.foxhome. com/ and typed in "Planet of the Apes" on the their search engine. This is the information it gave me on the blu-ray features for each disc (took snap shots).   http://www.potacoll ective.com/ beneath1. jpg   http://www.potacoll ective.com/ beneath2. jpg It gives the running time of BENEATH as 100 minutes.  That's five minutes longer than the version we all know. OMG!!!  This is a longer version of BENEATH!!!!  What else could be included?  Maybe those scenes with Cornelius sorting the humans and Ursus, Zaius and the Minister talking politics, and the fat mutant doing whatever it was the fat mutant did that we didn't get to see! OMG!!!!  OMG!!!! On the other hand, it's most probably just a typo. -- Rory ;) <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49115	From: drhasslein	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH

.html I went to Studio day each year they had it, (maybe it was more than once a year, I don't remember now) but I was the only person that would bring Battle up. The studio day that followed the Japan box release, Dave (from fox)rushed up to me as soon as I walked in the door, excited to tell me about it, but I burst his balloon when I said I knew about it and in fact owned it already. I don't remember how I initially found out it was going to be released, I was buying a lot of Godzilla imports at the time, it might have been from Laser Craze on the east coast... But Ken Cranes in Orange County had a better price. I was on the wait list at Ken Cranes' and drove there and purchased it the day they got it in. Life was good. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote: > > OK, Scott and I aren't the only ones who remember the LDs were released > out of order... :-) > > Do you recall during any of the 'Studio Days' where BATTLE was > specifically mentioned? Were you aware of the Japanese Box Set at that > point? > > > Chris L. > > > > "drhasslein" <drhasslein@...> wrote: > > >>Studio day was a Q & A format. I was surprised to find Escape released > early, I bought each title on release date, but by the time studio day > came around, I didn't really care enough to ask why. All I cared about > was getting the extended cut of Battle released... << > > > "scott bosco" digitalcinema@...> wrote: > > >>From what I remember I think it was more of a production problem as to > why the films were release out of order. I remember at the time there > were plants producing disc that had manufacturing ordeals. Whole runs > were produced and then recalled do to laser rot. Some stores got the > copies while others didn't. Then they were all recalled and a new > production run was ordered. << > <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49116	From: drhasslein	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) Robot Chicken 2001

.html I wouldn't expect anyone, Generation Y and younger, would have an appreciation for 2001. Anything paced is boring to them. Even in my small circle of friends, who are older, I know of no one other than myself that even likes it, much less thinks its outstanding. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote: > > not sure who wrote: > > >>Rory, did you catch Robot Chicken's take on how boring 2001 is? << > > > But there's something about Seth Green- who revels in fart and poop > jokes- saying that a classic (and brilliant) film like 2001 is. My guess > is that if the apes were flinging poop at the Monolith, he would have > been happier. > > I actually saw him walk right by a line I was standing in (Ventures > Brothers panel) at the NYC Comic Con He's barely 5 feet tall, which for > some reason didn't surprise me. > > > Chris L. > <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49117	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: Conquest director's cut review, sort of.

.html it was the rifle butt...I just watched it the other night... --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote: > From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> > Subject: [pota] Re: Conquest director's cut review, sort of. > To: pota@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 6:14 PM > I always thought that happened because he got hit with the > butt of a > rifle. > > Chris L. > > > > "Mark" <rkid67@...> wrote: > > >>I bet there's a lot of scenes like the one that > was left in Conquest > where the cop gets a bullet > in the head and blood spurts out. << > <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49118	From: drhasslein	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET

.html Best Buy has a pre order price for the Apes Blu "book" version $91.99... amazon usually follows suit, so hopefully we'll get that price, or maybe lower as we get closer.... <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49119	From: Alex Ruiz	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: FW: Fox Movie Channel goes 'Apes'

.html .html If so, I wish I had the Monsters HD channel.   Al ----- Original Message ---- From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 6:57:13 PM Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Fox Movie Channel goes 'Apes' Didn't Monsters HD show the films in HD recently? Plus some sort of special?   Chris L       "Alex Ruiz" <pota1968@yahoo. com> wrote:   >>They're fianlly going to present Planet of the Apes in HD TV. I only wish they would have done this long before the blu-rays came out. But still looking forward to it. << ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___ Click to see huge collection of designer watches. Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com <.html <.html <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49120	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: FW: Fox Movie Channel goes 'Apes'

.html Didn't Monsters HD show the films in HD recently? Plus some sort of special? Chris L I don't know what Monsters HD showed, but technically no satellite or cable HD transmission has the HD resolution of Blu-ray. So when the Blu-ray DVDs come out, they'll be the best the movies will look on video -- that is assuming Fox has done a good job remastering these films. -- Rory <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49121	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) Robot Chicken 2001

.html Seth Green I actually saw him walk right by a line I was standing in (Ventures Brothers panel) at the NYC Comic Con He's barely 5 feet tall, which for some reason didn't surprise me. Chris L. One of the things I hate about getting older is watching kids grow up. They just remind you of how fast time can pass. I remember Seth Green best as the young "Woody Allen" in RADIO DAYS -- now over twenty years old. Of course, in his case he hasn't grow up that much. -- Rory <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49122	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH

.html I went to Studio day each year they had it, (maybe it was more than once a year, I don't remember now) but I was the only person that would bring Battle up. The studio day that followed the Japan box release, Dave (from fox)rushed up to me as soon as I walked in the door, excited to tell me about it, but I burst his balloon when I said I knew about it and in fact owned it already. I don't remember how I initially found out it was going to be released, I was buying a lot of Godzilla imports at the time, it might have been from Laser Craze on the east coast... But Ken Cranes in Orange County had a better price. I was on the wait list at Ken Cranes' and drove there and purchased it the day they got it in. Life was good. Ah, I remember those days too. Laserdiscs were just so damn exciting. Couldn't wait to get a new release. DVDs just aren't the same, not even Blu-ray. Everybody gets DVDs. Back in those days, laserdiscs were special -- even the disc jackets -- and you felt so superior owning them compared to the schleps still watching VHS. Funny thing... nowadays, you couldn't pay me to watch a laserdisc. When I moved, I finally threw most of mine away. -- Rory <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49123	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) Robot Chicken 2001

.html I wouldn't expect anyone, Generation Y and younger, would have an appreciation for 2001. Anything paced is boring to them. Even in my small circle of friends, who are older, I know of no one other than myself that even likes it, much less thinks its outstanding. You had to be there in 1968, and then grow up thinking perhaps the future would be like that, then experience the bitter reality of the real year 2001 and the knowledge that it was APES that actually had the future vision right -- man is a nuisance, a walking pestilence, and the more that keep coming, the worse it gets. -- Rory McCain or Obama? Stay updated on coverage of the Presidential race while you browse - Download Now! <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49124	From: m c	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: BENEATH scenes

.html --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote: From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> Subject: [pota] Re: BENEATH scenes To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 5:42 PM You're welcome. Interestingly, the name 'Ongaro' appears in NONE of the scripts I've ever seen. Ditto for 'Adiposo' (Victor Buono's character). I really wonder where those two names came from.   *** They're in that APE newspaper that came with the BENEATH pressbook... ***         ____________________________________________________________ Get the shot you need with a discreet new spy camera. Click now! Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49125	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET

.html Best Buy has a pre order price for the Apes Blu "book" version $91.99... amazon usually follows suit, so hopefully we'll get that price, or maybe lower as we get closer.... Should I cancel my Amazon pre-order then? Best Buy sure doesn't discount the DVDs at their stores! Has anyone seen the terrible cover art for the Blu of THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL coming out in December? Why can't Fox just be honest and let people know that they'll be buying a nearly 60-year-old black and white movie? They also have included a preview of the remake -- which I can tell already is going to suck! -- Rory <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49126	From: Chris Lawless	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: Apes sights and sounds

.html .html James Daly (again) on Mission: Impossible last Friday (10/10), this time as an East Berlin banker trying to start a new Nazi party.   Chris L.       I wrote:   >>James Daly (Honorious) was on last night and actually had three roles: a U.S. ambassador , the imposter who replaced him, and the IMF agent who replaced the imposter. Until looking at his entry at the IMDB, I didn't realize he was the father of both Tyne Daly and Tim Daly. << <.html ____________________________________________________________ Get educated. Click here for Adult Education programs. <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49127	From: m c	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: There was no "third ship"

.html --- On Sun, 10/19/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote: And how could our three chimp friends possibly have the know-how and the technology to raise Taylor's ship off of the bottom of that lake, somehow clean it out, repair it and launch it right in the nick of time?    *** Did you not read some of the other posts regarding some of the possible ways the ship was raised? Apparently not, because there were some ideas thrown out which did not include an outlandish idea of a third ship... They may not be something everyone agrees on, but at least they stuck within the established facts of the first two films...   Let me ask you, how could Milo know where this alleged third ship was supposed to be? Did he talk with the crew members? Did they say "We left an operational ship lying around in what your people call 'The Forbidden Zone'... Sure, we could use it to get the hell outta here, but we've decided to just leave it around for you to use..."   And, you should be asking yourself the same question you asked above: Whether it's Taylor's ship (as we all know it is), or the pretend third ship, how would Milo have known when to launch it? Asking a question like this in questioning how it could be Taylor's ship is totally pointless and is no defense to your POV. ***     Besides, this third ship is much smaller than Taylor's; it even had a side hatch where Taylor's didn't.  In addition to this, there has been several stills from the deleted scenes on ESCAPE that clearly showed three seats sitting side-by-side, whereas in Taylor's, there were four...two in front and two in the back.   *** I am sick of  hearing about the side hatch and smaller size... You want to know why it was smaller: Because in ESCAPE, they used the nose prop from PLANET... The different interior was made up with three seats because it suited their needs for the unused opening sequence and the side hatch was put on there because it too was redressing for what they felt was needed for their opening scene...   When they were making that film, I'm sure they didn't sit there thinking how this ship would be analyzed years from then. At the time of ESCAPE's release, repeated viewings of the films weren't as accessible as now so the general public probably wouldn't have given any thought to it looking different, if they even noticed it at all... They knew it was supposed to be Taylor's ship because everyone in the film said it is...   Saying there was a third ship makes about as much sense as  someone saying "That can't really be Zira, after all, she doesn't look the same in this film as she did in PLANET... That has to be a second female..." Or someone saying "There has to be a different ape that was named Cornelius because in BENEATH not only does that ape not look like he did in PLANET, he is also taller, so that can't be the same character..." These two examples hold about as much water as your redressed prop theory hold... Visual differences aside, we all know that regardless of the film, it was still Zira, BENEATH's Cornelius was supposed to be the Cornelius from PLANET, and the ship in ESCAPE is still Taylor's... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   Wait, I just thought of an idea: The ship in ESCAPE really is a third ship after all... It was the ship from the TV series... Councillor Zaius really didn't have that ship blown up, he had it preserved for study... And after 900 years, it managed to work it's way across the continent perfectly intact, never giving way to age or the elements... After 900 years, it ended up on the east coast where Milo got his hands on it and used it to get Zira and Cornelius back in time to give birth to their peoples new savior... It was all part of Councillor Zaius' master plan... He knew there would come a time when a three seated prop ship with a side-hatch door would come in handy... Good thing he talked to those astronauts, they knew the score... Do You <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49128	From: drhasslein	Date: 10/19/2008
Subject: Re: POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET

.html I've never tried a price match at Amazon, so I don't know. I'm going to write later in the week and find out where they stand. I know I said over & over how I hate Blu Ray packaging, but at least Fox finally used the Poster for the Young Frankenstein Release... I guess the Day art is to confuse the kids with the new movie. Also, for those of you into steelbooks, Best Buy has exclusive steelbooks for the Bond blu-rays this week, MGM films distributed by Fox... I wonder if they are going to do the same with APES... --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > > Best Buy has a pre order price for the Apes Blu "book" version > > $91.99... amazon usually follows suit, so hopefully we'll get that > > price, or maybe lower as we get closer.... > Should I cancel my Amazon pre-order then? Â Best Buy sure doesn't discount the DVDs at their stores! > > > > Has anyone seen the terrible cover art for the Blu of THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL coming out in December? Â Why can't Fox just be honest and let people know that they'll be buying a nearly 60-year- old black and white movie? Â They also have included a preview of the remake -- which I can tell already is going to suck! > > > > > -- Rory > <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49129	From: Rich Handley	Date: 10/20/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4220

.html >Posted by: "Chris Lawless" lawford42@... totellthetruth42 >You're welcome. Interestingly, the name 'Ongaro' appears in NONE of the >scripts I've ever seen. Ditto for 'Adiposo' (Victor Buono's character). I >really wonder where those two names came from. The Mutant News--the "in-universe" promotional newspaper released for the second film. >Posted by: "drhasslein" drhasslein@... drhasslein >I wouldn't expect anyone, Generation Y and younger, would have an >appreciation for 2001. Anything paced is boring to them. Even in my >small circle of friends, who are older, I know of no one other than >myself that even likes it, much less thinks its outstanding. One of my favorite films! <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49130	From: drhasslein	Date: 10/20/2008
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH

.html I just bought another player and 210 movies for a song on ebay. Laserdiscs are still fun, because they are so cheap now. I got that lot for less than half the cost of renting movies, I had never seen half of them. Once I watch them, I'll resale them... I know what you mean about the dvd experience not being the same though... --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: >> Ah, I remember those days too. Â Laserdiscs were just so damn exciting. Â Couldn't wait to get a new release. Â DVDs just aren't the same, not even Blu-ray. Â Everybody gets DVDs. Â Back in those days, laserdiscs were special -- even the disc jackets -- and you felt so superior owning them compared to the schleps still watching VHS. > > Funny thing... nowadays, you couldn't pay me to watch a laserdisc. Â When I moved, I finally threw most of mine away. > > > > > -- Rory > <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49131	From: Chris Lawless	Date: 10/20/2008
Subject: Re: (OT) Robot Chicken 2001

.html .html I wrote:   >>But there's something about Seth Green- who revels in fart and poop jokes- saying that a classic (and brilliant) film like 2001 is. <<     ...is boring.     Chris L. <.html ____________________________________________________________ Take a break - you deserve it. Click here to find a great vacation. <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49132	From: Terry Hoknes	Date: 10/20/2008
Subject: Re: POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET

.html .html Your best is going to always be at ebay.com many sellers sell at wholesale costs so just watch out there fora deal otherwise amazon is always reasonable       I've never tried a price match at Amazon, so I don't know. I'm going to write later in the week and find out where they stand. I know I said over & over how I hate Blu Ray packaging, but at least Fox finally used the Poster for the Young Frankenstein Release... I guess the Day art is to confuse the kids with the new movie. Also, for those of you into steelbooks, Best Buy has exclusive steelbooks for the Bond blu-rays this week, MGM films distributed by Fox... I wonder if they are going to do the same with APES... --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > > Best Buy has a pre order price for the Apes Blu "book" version > > $91.99... amazon usually follows suit, so hopefully we'll get that > > price, or maybe lower as we get closer.... > Should I cancel my Amazon pre-order then?  Best Buy sure doesn't discount the DVDs at their stores! > > > > Has anyone seen the terrible cover art for the Blu of THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL coming out in December?  Why can't Fox just be honest and let people know that they'll be buying a nearly 60-year- old black and white movie?  They also have included a preview of the remake -- which I can tell already is going to suck! > > > > > -- Rory > <.html <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49133	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 10/20/2008
Subject: Re: Beneath's days (Was: Blu-ray Disc Features)

.html .html   There's no reason the scouts couldn't have been captured before Brent arrived.  In fact there's no reason they couldn't have been caught before Taylor was.  In fact it's MORE likely, since he never mentions them.  Unless they died before they were put into the calls.  As for a tree dying, I think you may be watching a little too closely.  I'm sure it was unintended, and not meant to show the passage of time in any way.      In a message dated 10/19/2008 9:22:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes: Now, how did that pine tree in the center of Ape City die in that short a period of time, and how did eleven boneheaded gorilla scouts all manage to get themselves captured? New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! <.html <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49134	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 10/20/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-ray Disc Features

.html .html   I'm not so sure.  There was certainly enough time for Cornelius & Zira to get married and move in together.  So some time has passed.  Perhaps they knew too much to be convicted for heresy, and Zaius just swore them to secrecy so a not to ruin their careers.  But as I said in my unfinished Comic with Neil, I think he, an assistant and a human slave trained to swim dove for that sunken ship, salvaged and repaired it.   In a message dated 10/19/2008 5:44:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, aboro3085@... writes: After that meeting (which was ended by the arrival of Zaius), Cornelius could have met up with Milo, told him Taylor's story which would have piqued Milo's curiousity leading to Milo's discovering it's location and ultimately getting the ship raised. Milo had to have been working on this undertaking while the events of PLANET were still happening, because as you pointed out in your other post, there was not enough time between the end of PLANET and the events of BENEATH for any of the raising and reparing of the ship to have occured... *** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! <.html <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49135	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 10/20/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-ray Disc Features

.html .html   We don't know that as it would have been under water. And it didn't have two in the front & two in the back. They were all in the back in twos opposite each other.    In a message dated 10/19/2008 7:44:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Zasco1957@... writes: it even had a side hatch where Taylor's didn't.  New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! <.html <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49136	From: Alex Ruiz	Date: 10/20/2008
Subject: Re: POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET

.html .html Best Buy is always good for (day of release). They always have their DVDs on sale for that day. So I'll be getting my single discs there. But pre-orders for the boxset I'm sticking with Amazon.. There's no guarantee that the boxsets will be offered at all Best Buys, so if I have to rely on shipping, I feel that Amazon is a lot more reliable than Best Buy.   I believe that $91.99 price at Best Buy is a pre-order price. If you do find it at Best Buy, most likely it's going to be more expensive than that. Although the BB pre-order price is a good, I prefer to do business with Amazon when it comes to shipping merchandise. Best Buy is infamous when it comes to putting people on waiting lists.   Al      ----- Original Message ---- From: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:07:06 AM Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET Your best is going to always be at ebay.com many sellers sell at wholesale costs so just watch out there fora deal otherwise amazon is always reasonable       I've never tried a price match at Amazon, so I don't know. I'm going to write later in the week and find out where they stand. I know I said over & over how I hate Blu Ray packaging, but at least Fox finally used the Poster for the Young Frankenstein Release... I guess the Day art is to confuse the kids with the new movie. Also, for those of you into steelbooks, Best Buy has exclusive steelbooks for the Bond blu-rays this week, MGM films distributed by Fox... I wonder if they are going to do the same with APES... --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > > Best Buy has a pre order price for the Apes Blu "book" version > > $91.99... amazon usually follows suit, so hopefully we'll get that > > price, or maybe lower as we get closer.... > Should I cancel my Amazon pre-order then?  Best Buy sure doesn't discount the DVDs at their stores! > > > > Has anyone seen the terrible cover art for the Blu of THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL coming out in December?  Why can't Fox just be honest and let people know that they'll be buying a nearly 60-year- old black and white movie?  They also have included a preview of the remake -- which I can tell already is going to suck! > > > > > -- Rory > Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com <.html <.html <.html

Group: pota	Message: 49137	From: zasco1957	Date: 10/20/2008
Subject: Re: Another Music Video

.html Attachments : .html I liked that too, Al.  Thanks.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: scott bosco Date: 10/18/2008 11:53:32 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] Another Music Video   Thanks for posting that.  It was fun.  Also, now we know why Ape City was heading towards famine - that's one FAT GENERAL URSUS! - Scott B. --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@yahoo. com> <.html Group: pota Message: 49138 From: zasco1957 Date: 10/20/2008 Subject: Re: Blu-ray Disc Features .html Attachments : .html Exactly, Karyl!  That's what I've been saying.    Have you ever checked out the ANSANAUT site?   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: Karyl Miller Date: 10/18/2008 6:22:49 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features   I always thought that it was Brent's ship that they found.   How would they have gotten Taylor's ship out of the water without salvage equipment, especially since the apes had such a low level of technology?       Karyl Miller From: m c <aboro3085@yahoo. com> To: pota@yahoogroups. com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 5:03:33 PM Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features --- On Sat, 10/18/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote: From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 11:12 AM I noticed that too...and I'd be willing to bet that it also includes the scene where the three mutants--Caspay, Adiposo (the Fat Man) and the Verger of the cathedral--being gunned down via orders from General Ursus in front of the ruined Radio City Music Hall marquee!      *** I'm quite sure that Rory was just being sarcastic with his comments... You did see that he ended it by saying it probably was just a typo didn't you?   In any case, this alleged scene that nobody else has ever mentioned, it's not even in the script, never existed on film. It was not on the screen in 1970, nor was it on any of the subsequent home video releases... So unless APEMANIA took your false memory and decided to film a fake scene you'll never see anything like the supposed gunning down... This scene no more existed than the proposed "underwater scene" from BENEATH... Saying this scene was real with nothing to back it up is about as productive as saying that Ursus shot a protestor... ***     And what about ESCAPE?  This "Secret Behind ESCAPE" section the disc listed...is that where one could finally see the deleted scene about the third ship taking off right before the AO Bomb exploded, Zira, Cornelius and Milo witnessing the nuclear destruction of the planet, hitting the time warp and landing back on Earth in 1973?     *** You want to know the Secret Behind ESCAPE? The secret was they blew up earth in BENEATH and they used Taylor's raised from the dead ship to jettison back in time. There was no third ship, that's just total bullsh*t. I'll go with James' way of thinking on this for sure by saying "If it was meant to be a third ship, Dehn would have made it a 'third ship' in the script". The script and the film clearly indicate that it was supposed to be Taylor's ship from PLANET.   The "secret" behind ESCAPE?The secret was the apes from the future came back in time carrying the saviour for their kind.     -------Original Message----- --   From: Haristas@aol. com Date: 10/13/2008 9:52:43 PM To: pota@yahoogroups. com Subject: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features   Just went to http://www.foxhome. com/ and typed in "Planet of the Apes" on the their search engine. This is the information it gave me on the blu-ray features for each disc (took snap shots).   http://www.potacoll ective.com/ beneath1. jpg   http://www.potacoll ective.com/ beneath2. jpg It gives the running time of BENEATH as 100 minutes.  That's five minutes longer than the version we all know. OMG!!!  This is a longer version of BENEATH!!!!  What else could be included?  Maybe those scenes with Cornelius sorting the humans and Ursus, Zaius and the Minister talking politics, and the fat mutant doing whatever it was the fat mutant did that we didn't get to see! OMG!!!!  OMG!!!! On the other hand, it's most probably just a typo. -- Rory ;)   <.html Group: pota Message: 49139 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 10/20/2008 Subject: Re: (OT) Robot Chicken 2001 .html .html   It reminds me of a lot of Japanese films in it's pacing. It focuses on the visuals for so long, I think Kubrick forgot other people besides Kurasawa and himself would be watching it.  Not everything he did was a Masterpiece.  Not even everything in his masterpieces was masterful. He was often self indulgent with a camera.   In a message dated 10/19/2008 7:45:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes: I wouldn't expect anyone, Generation Y and younger, would have an appreciation for 2001. Anything paced is boring to them. Even in my small circle of friends, who are older, I know of no one other than myself that even likes it, much less thinks its outstanding. New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 49140 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 10/20/2008 Subject: Re: POTA BLU-RAY BOX SET .html .html   Earth!  If you don't sit still I will stop this car! Don't make me come back there!     In a message dated 10/19/2008 11:26:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes: Has anyone seen the terrible cover art for the Blu of THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL coming out in December?  Why can't Fox just be honest and let people know that they'll be buying a nearly 60-year-old black and white movie?  They also have included a preview of the remake -- which I can tell already is going to suck! New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. 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Try it out! <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 49141 From: Karyl Miller Date: 10/20/2008 Subject: Re: Blu-ray Disc Features .html .html Never heard of it.  What's it about?   Karyl Miller From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:12:29 AM Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features Exactly, Karyl!  That's what I've been saying.    Have you ever checked out the ANSANAUT site?   Zach      -------Original Message----- --   From: Karyl Miller Date: 10/18/2008 6:22:49 PM To: pota@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features   I always thought that it was Brent's ship that they found.   How would they have gotten Taylor's ship out of the water without salvage equipment, especially since the apes had such a low level of technology?       Karyl Miller From: m c <aboro3085@yahoo. com> To: pota@yahoogroups. com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 5:03:33 PM Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features --- On Sat, 10/18/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote: From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 11:12 AM I noticed that too...and I'd be willing to bet that it also includes the scene where the three mutants--Caspay, Adiposo (the Fat Man) and the Verger of the cathedral--being gunned down via orders from General Ursus in front of the ruined Radio City Music Hall marquee!      *** I'm quite sure that Rory was just being sarcastic with his comments... You did see that he ended it by saying it probably was just a typo didn't you?   In any case, this alleged scene that nobody else has ever mentioned, it's not even in the script, never existed on film. It was not on the screen in 1970, nor was it on any of the subsequent home video releases... So unless APEMANIA took your false memory and decided to film a fake scene you'll never see anything like the supposed gunning down... This scene no more existed than the proposed "underwater scene" from BENEATH... Saying this scene was real with nothing to back it up is about as productive as saying that Ursus shot a protestor... ***     And what about ESCAPE?  This "Secret Behind ESCAPE" section the disc listed...is that where one could finally see the deleted scene about the third ship taking off right before the AO Bomb exploded, Zira, Cornelius and Milo witnessing the nuclear destruction of the planet, hitting the time warp and landing back on Earth in 1973?     *** You want to know the Secret Behind ESCAPE? The secret was they blew up earth in BENEATH and they used Taylor's raised from the dead ship to jettison back in time. There was no third ship, that's just total bullsh*t. I'll go with James' way of thinking on this for sure by saying "If it was meant to be a third ship, Dehn would have made it a 'third ship' in the script". The script and the film clearly indicate that it was supposed to be Taylor's ship from PLANET.   The "secret" behind ESCAPE?The secret was the apes from the future came back in time carrying the saviour for their kind.     -------Original Message----- --   From: Haristas@aol. com Date: 10/13/2008 9:52:43 PM To: pota@yahoogroups. com Subject: [pota] Re: Blu-ray Disc Features   Just went to http://www.foxhome. com/ and typed in "Planet of the Apes" on the their search engine. This is the information it gave me on the blu-ray features for each disc (took snap shots).   http://www.potacoll ective.com/ beneath1. jpg   http://www.potacoll ective.com/ beneath2. jpg It gives the running time of BENEATH as 100 minutes.  That's five minutes longer than the version we all know. OMG!!!  This is a longer version of BENEATH!!!!  What else could be included?  Maybe those scenes with Cornelius sorting the humans and Ursus, Zaius and the Minister talking politics, and the fat mutant doing whatever it was the fat mutant did that we didn't get to see! OMG!!!!  OMG!!!! On the other hand, it's most probably just a typo. -- Rory ;)   Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com <.html<.html <.html Group: pota Message: 49142 From: scott bosco Date: 10/20/2008 Subject: Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH .html Personally, I was never told which or what masters were used in terms of Japan.  In fact I was never told anything concerning Japan.  Those decisions were being made by a different group of people within FOX who I didn't have dealings with.  I just worked with two different people in Michigan where there was a vault and that's where they pulled elements from.  A few years later that office was closed and all element transfers were done in L.A.  It was at that time I dealt with a different group of people - and dealt mostly with the office at Fox in NY. I remember that Image Entertainment was distributing FOX laser releases at the times directly to stores and even smaller distributors.  In fact I was writing for a East Cost distributor in NJ in those days and remember the problems both from withing FOX and the local distributor with discs coming back with laser rot and some being recalled, while other always being pushed back for release.  It all went back to a UK company and problems the were having in the production of the discs. All this came in the middle of another release I worked on (SPACE:1999 for Image) which had it's problems due to the massive release schedule of 24 discs of that series.  This took place over a year and ruined that release with only a few hundred discs release on certain volumes due to another problem with a warehouse disaster - I 'm not sure if it was fire, or rain but I seem to remember the roof fell in or something.  Titles affected by both the warehouse disaster and the laser rot were CONQUEST, SPACE:1999,  OMEN III: THE FINAL CONFLICT, SUSPIRIA, ZARDOZ,  and many more.  Image lost a lot of money in that time; Fox's release schedule was ruined.  The laser format was already showing signs of weakening and it was very costly to produce the discs.  The disc also selling for ridiculous amounts.  But this was forged by all the disasters befalling the format and Fox was trying to make it up.  Probably, the Japanese market was a saving grace for Fox due to them not having anything to do with the manufacturing of the discs.  They could simpy sign a deal, provide a master and then just wait for the royalities.  All the preparing and manufacturing, as well as the distrubution, was done in Japan.  ...and the Japanese excelled in preparing laserdiscs.  I still have my "V" box set and it is spectacular, along with "V" the Series box set. - Scott B. --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote: From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> Subject: [pota] Re: UPDATE: Audio Problem(s) with BENEATH To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 4:40 PM OK, Scott and I aren't the only ones who remember the LDs were released out of order...  :-)   Do you recall during any of the 'Studio Days' where BATTLE was specifically mentioned? Were you aware of the Japanese Box Set at that point?     Chris L.       "drhasslein" <drhasslein@yahoo. com> wrote:    >>Studio day was a Q & A format. I was surprised to find Escape released early, I bought each title on release date, but by the time studio day came around, I didn't really care enough to ask why. All I cared about was getting the extended cut of Battle released... <<     "scott bosco" digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> wrote:   >>From what I remember I think it was more of a production problem as to why the films were release out of order. I remember at the time there were plants producing disc that had manufacturing ordeals. Whole runs were produced and then recalled do to laser rot. Some stores got the copies while others didn't. Then they were all recalled and a new production run was ordered. << ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___ Shop now for huge discounts on quality surveillance cameras. Click here! Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 49143 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 10/20/2008 Subject: Re: There was no "third ship" .html .html   Thanks to that Ansanaut site Michael McColm's Milo, Rider at World's End Gives just about as good an account if Between the Planet of the Apes as any. And has as few plot holes as an actual script.   http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/mccolmrider.htm New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 49144 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 10/20/2008 Subject: Re: POTA Music Video .html SHOW ! ! ! Great job. 2008/10/17 Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> Another little blast from the past. Planet of the Apes Music Video.   www.potacollective.com/fans/kryptonite.wmv   Enjoy.   Al   Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around <.html Copyright © 2026, Hunter Goatley. 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