--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> I don't get it?! It doesn't even look like anyone from the TV
series. ...and wax?
> Gee, and I can't seem to get 5,000 for my Mego made costume!
> Go figure.
> - Scott
>
> --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote:
>
> From: Jeff <skintricks@...>
> Subject: [pota] $100,000.00
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 10:45 AM
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> WHAT? $100,000.00 for a bad wax museum head.
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> http://cgi.ebay. com/original- planet-of- the-apes- wax-head-
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> Jeff B
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: m c
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:35 PM
> Subject: [pota] There was no "third ship"
>
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> --- On Sun, 10/19/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote:
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>
> And how could our three chimp friends possibly have the know-how and
the technology to raise Taylor's ship off of the bottom of that lake,
somehow clean it out, repair it and launch it right in the nick of time?
>
> *** Did you not read some of the other posts regarding some of the
possible ways the ship was raised? Apparently not, because there were
some ideas thrown out which did not include an outlandish idea of a
third ship... They may not be something everyone agrees on, but at
least they stuck within the established facts of the first two films...
>
> Let me ask you, how could Milo know where this alleged third ship
was supposed to be? Did he talk with the crew members? Did they say
"We left an operational ship lying around in what your people call
'The Forbidden Zone'... Sure, we could use it to get the hell outta
here, but we've decided to just leave it around for you to use..."
>
> And, you should be asking yourself the same question you asked
above: Whether it's Taylor's ship (as we all know it is), or the
pretend third ship, how would Milo have known when to launch it?
Asking a question like this in questioning how it could be Taylor's
ship is totally pointless and is no defense to your POV. ***
>
>
> Besides, this third ship is much smaller than Taylor's; it even had
a side hatch where Taylor's didn't. In addition to this, there has
been several stills from the deleted scenes on ESCAPE that clearly
showed three seats sitting side-by-side, whereas in Taylor's, there
were four...two in front and two in the back.
>
>
>
> *** I am sick of hearing about the side hatch and smaller size...
You want to know why it was smaller: Because in ESCAPE, they used the
nose prop from PLANET... The different interior was made up with three
seats because it suited their needs for the unused opening sequence
and the side hatch was put on there because it too was redressing for
what they felt was needed for their opening scene...
>
> When they were making that film, I'm sure they didn't sit there
thinking how this ship would be analyzed years from then. At the time
of ESCAPE's release, repeated viewings of the films weren't as
accessible as now so the general public probably wouldn't have given
any thought to it looking different, if they even noticed it at
all... They knew it was supposed to be Taylor's ship because everyone
in the film said it is...
>
> Saying there was a third ship makes about as much sense as someone
saying "That can't really be Zira, after all, she doesn't look the
same in this film as she did in PLANET... That has to be a second
female..." Or someone saying "There has to be a different ape that was
named Cornelius because in BENEATH not only does that ape not look
like he did in PLANET, he is also taller, so that can't be the same
character... " These two examples hold about as much water as your
redressed prop theory hold... Visual differences aside, we all know
that regardless of the film, it was still Zira, BENEATH's Cornelius
was supposed to be the Cornelius from PLANET, and the ship in ESCAPE
is still Taylor's...
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~
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> Wait, I just thought of an idea: The ship in ESCAPE really is a
third ship after all... It was the ship from the TV series...
Councillor Zaius really didn't have that ship blown up, he had it
preserved for study... And after 900 years, it managed to work it's
way across the continent perfectly intact, never giving way to age or
the elements... After 900 years, it ended up on the east coast where
Milo got his hands on it and used it to get Zira and Cornelius back in
time to give birth to their peoples new savior... It was all part of
Councillor Zaius' master plan... He knew there would come a time when
a three seated prop ship with a side-hatch door would come in handy...
Good thing he talked to those astronauts, they knew the score...
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> I have a Sony blu-ray player myself, and although all is working
well since the upgrade, I'd go with a Panasonic blu-ray player as
well.
> Can't beat picture in picture along with all the good reviews on
the panasonic player. If I find a good deal on black friday, I may
just pick one up myself.
>
> Al
>
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> >

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> I have a Sony blu-ray player myself, and although all is working
well since the upgrade, I'd go with a Panasonic blu-ray player as
well.
> Can't beat picture in picture along with all the good reviews on
the panasonic player. If I find a good deal on black friday, I may
just pick one up myself.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> >

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> I've been watching the full run of The Twilight Zone of late. I have
> all nine seasons on DVD, and I'm about 2/3 of the way through season
> 1 of the original series. So far, I've seen episodes with Claude
> Akins and Roddy McDoawll, and as soon as I hear their voices, I
> picture them in ape garb. It's been many years since I've watched
> The Twilight Zone. Are many other POTA actors in it?
>

>
> Greetings, folks,
>
> I just wanted to let you all know that Timeline of the Planet of the
> Apes: The Definitive Chronology is now available online:
>
> http://www.hassleinbooks.com
>
> For those who purchase it, I hope you enjoy it!
>
> Rich
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> I've ordered mine already and I'm more excited about this book than all
> the blu ray and Mego stuff simply because this book is a book written
> by a knowlegeable fan for fans.I think it will be THE definitive Apes
> Bible for years to come and the cover art is stunning.John, Scrolls.
> >
> > Greetings, folks,
> >
> > I just wanted to let you all know that Timeline of the Planet of the
> > Apes: The Definitive Chronology is now available online:
> >
> > http://www.hassleinbooks.com
> >
> > For those who purchase it, I hope you enjoy it!
> >
> > Rich
> >
>

--- On Wed, 11/26/08, rassmguy <handleyr@...> wrote:

> From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Timeline of the Planet of the Apes
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 7:12 AM
> Thanks so much, John! I'm humbled--and I hope you still
> feel that way
> after reading it. :)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002"
> <john@...> wrote:
> >
> > I've ordered mine already and I'm more excited
> about this book than all
> > the blu ray and Mego stuff simply because this book is
> a book written
> > by a knowlegeable fan for fans.I think it will be THE
> definitive Apes
> > Bible for years to come and the cover art is
> stunning.John, Scrolls.
> > >
> > > Greetings, folks,
> > >
> > > I just wanted to let you all know that Timeline
> of the Planet of the
> > > Apes: The Definitive Chronology is now available
> online:
> > >
> > > http://www.hassleinbooks.com
> > >
> > > For those who purchase it, I hope you enjoy it!
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
> >

In addition to the "Evolution of the POTA" and "Impact of the POTA" specials, a third called "A Look Behind the POTA" will air on Saturday (11/29) at 7:30PM. It only airs the one time so be sure to fire up your DVRs.

I think the Fox Movie Channel has already been showing it. I could be wrong but "A Look Behind the POTA" is the featurette they showed after the first CBS showing of BENEATH and is made up of bits from the PLANET NATO film and clips from BENEATH and the featurettes on the making of ESCAPE and CONQUEST, nothing on BATTLE.

By the way, on Thanksgiving day, the channel will be showing all those ridiculously title TV show "movie" compilations. I know there's some here that want those. I wonder if the print quality will be worse than how good the episodes look on DVD. I'll bet so.

-- Rory

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Greetings, everyone. Since this has been a topic of late, I was
wondering if anyone else has noticed that the Italian movie poster
for "Escape" has three large color photos superimposed over Zira &
Cornelius on the run. The photo in the center is a large color photo
of the three chimps in their space suits sitting in the cabin of the
Icarus. That is just more proof that the sequence was actually filmed.

Jeff (RedSpy)

In the "making of" featurette on the Blu-ray for ESCAPE, Joe Russo says that the sequence was filmed while they show behind-the-scenes stills of it being shot. Too bad they couldn't actually show what was shot!

-- Rory

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I have a Sony blu-ray player myself, and although all is working well since the upgrade, I'd go with a Panasonic blu-ray player as well.

Can't beat picture in picture along with all the good reviews on the panasonic player. If I find a good deal on black friday, I may just pick one up myself.

Al

PLANET, BENEATH, ESCAPE and BATTLE were shot in PANAvision, so go with a PANAsonic.

Stick with the PANA!

-- Rory

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>
> LOL! That is hilarious. And to think that we all thought it began

> "NORTH AMERICA, 1991."
>
> I just hope the restaurant owner is counting all of the knives every
> night..........
>
>
>
> Scott
>

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What to watch on Thanksgiving Day - A guide for geeks TV Squad - Santa Monica,CA,USA 6:30 am, Planet of the Apes (FMC) – Prepare for Turkey Day by watching Charlton Heston give evolution (that cruel joker) a one-two punch in the face. ... See all stories on this topic

Well, I still remember the KING KONG and GOZILLA marathons on WOR-TV in New York in the late seventies and early eighties ( http://dvddrive-in.com/holidayfilmfest.htm ), so that's what I'll be watching on Thanksgiving and the day after!

-- Rory

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>Posted by: "Tim "apefan"" apefan23@... apefan23
>I ordered mine too!! a Christmas gift ....to me!

>>In addition to the "Evolution of the POTA" and "Impact of the

>>What's this about them showing the uncut Conquest? <<

>>Also the 29th is Saturday. Escape is on as a Triple Feature.

>>Man...Apemania is everywhere! Cornelius on the toilet wasn't needed

>>At least FOX is true to form they even use this footage over, and

Also worth noting is the fact that Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes clocks in at 150 minutes, which means that we have almost 40 minutes of Tom Rothman (Chairman of Fox Filmed Entertainment) commentary at the beginning/end of the film.

Chris L.

Well, that's wrong. It's only about ten to fifteen minutes before PLANET, then a few minutes after the movie is over. Remember, I get the channel and have watched nearly everything Rothman has done like this.

-- Rory

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The lengths given by TV Guide are for the time period each film or program is scheduled and includes promos & fillers (such as all the Apemania stuff) that airs between each. They are not actual film running times.

FMC has been doing Friday and Saturday night triple plays for some time now. It ensures that all time zones get the same movie in primetime when viewing is highest. Planet is an obvious choice for Friday night. Why Escape was choosen for Saturday night is a mystery. It could be the luck of the draw or maybe the programmers as FMC felt it was the strongest entry in the series after Planet.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> "LordTZer0@..." LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
> >>What's this about them showing the uncut Conquest? <<
>
> That's what the guy at FMC told me via e-mail, plus it's listed at
> http://www.foxmoviechannel.com/event/. BATTLE is also listed as being the
> extended cut. As for CONQUEST, we'll find out in a little over 24 hours
> as the first scheduled airing is Thursday night at 2:30 AM (technically
> Friday morning). Remains to be seen, but TVGuide.com has the running time
> at 105 minutes as opposed to the usual 88 so that's *something*. But the
> regular version of PLANET (the non Fox Legacy version), BENEATH and
> ESCAPE are clocking in at 120 minutes, and BATTLE at 105. As I mentioned
> in my other message, Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes clocks in at 150
> minutes.
>
> As for the TV Movies, the first three clock in at 120 minutes, and the
> last two at 105. Not sure what- if anything- to make of that.
>
>
> >>Also the 29th is Saturday. Escape is on as a Triple Feature. <<
>
> That's an odd choice, as it's the weakest of the five. Why burn up six
> hours like that, unless they're figuring that the 8PM-2AM time slot on a
> Saturday will have the fewest viewers. Coincidentally, they're doing the
> same thing Friday night with Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes- three times
> in a row, starting at 8PM. Which means that I'll probably miss the 4AM
> showing of BENEATH...
>
>
> Chris L.
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That's an odd choice, as it's the weakest of the five. Why burn up six hours like that, unless they're figuring that the 8PM-2AM time slot on a Saturday will have the fewest viewers. Coincidentally, they're doing the same thing Friday night with Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes- three times in a row, starting at 8PM. Which means that I'll probably miss the 4AM showing of BENEATH...

Chris L.

The Fox Movie Channel pretty much burns up all their movies. They don't have the number of titles that Turner Classic Movies have, so they have plenty of repeat viewings. I never worry about missing anything on the Fox Movie Channel. They repeat everything over and over and I'll bet they'll be showing the APES for months!

Anyway, on Friday and Saturday nights they have what they call their "Triple Plays," they show the same movie three times in a row. They do this EVERY Friday and Saturday night. Again, it's because they don't really have enough movies to show and don't license other titles from other studios. The Fox Movie Channel is basically a promotional vehicle for Fox product (20th Century Fox movies, DVDs, TV Shows, and the Fox Network and FX cable channel). Fox is now probably THE most commercial of all the studios, thanks to a certain Aussie dude. Fox isn't quite the Rat (i. e. Disney), but they're on their way.

-- Rory

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The Fox Legacy commentary is only scheduled for 15 minutes prior to Planet. However, there might be more after the film. More likely the extra time will be taken up by filler and promos. This morning they already ran the original trailer for Planet as well as the the POTA Featurette with David Chow being made-up as an Chimp.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Also worth noting is the fact that Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes clocks
> in at 150 minutes, which means that we have almost 40 minutes of Tom
> Rothman (Chairman of Fox Filmed Entertainment) commentary at the
> beginning/end of the film.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>

The schedule for the marathon evolved over time from when FMC first announced it. The "Impact" and "A Look Behind" specials were both late additions which caused changes in the overall schedule. The "Impact" special airs tonight and Sunday night at 7:30PM EST. The "A Look Behind" special only airs only one time tomorrow night as noted.

The group's Calendar section (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal) has the most accurate and updated schedule for the marathon.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> TVGuide.com has this listed for Friday 11/28 as opposed to Saturday
> 11/29. Strangely, the FMC doesn't list it for either Friday OR Saturday,
> and their schedule on the 'Channel of the Apes' pages doesn't match up to
> TVGuide.com. Neither "Impact of the POTA" or "A Look Behind the POTA" is
> listed at all.
>
> AFAICT, both "Impact of the POTA" and "A Look Behind the POTA" air only
> once- Thursday 11/27 @ 7:30 PM and Friday 11/28 @ 7:30 PM, respectively.
> "Evolution of the POTA" airs multiple times on Thursday, Friday, Saturday
> and Sunday.
>
> Out of curiosity, I wonder if "A Look Behind the POTA" is the 1972
> special?
>
> Also worth noting is the fact that Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes clocks
> in at 150 minutes, which means that we have almost 40 minutes of Tom
> Rothman (Chairman of Fox Filmed Entertainment) commentary at the
> beginning/end of the film.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "James" JamesA1102@... wrote:
>
> >>In addition to the "Evolution of the POTA" and "Impact of the POTA"
> specials, a third called "A Look Behind the POTA" will air on Saturday
> (11/29) at 7:30PM. It only airs the one time so be sure to fire up your
> DVRs. <<
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>>The Fox Legacy commentary is only scheduled for 15 minutes prior

>>I've just been watching a little bit of that four-star classic "The

Didn't someone here just write that it was originally aired by CBS after their first airing of BENEATH? Interesting how BATTLE isn't even alluded to in that documentary. You'd figure you have a built in audience and that would have been the right time to announce the fifth film.

Chris L.

BENEATH was first shown on CBS after BATTLE had come out. "A Look Behind the POTA" was indeed shown after that broadcast and didn't contain anything on BATTLE probably because BATTLE was still circulating theatrically or they didn't have access to footage, I don't know! Anyway, the summer of '73 BATTLE comes out and the unofficial "Go Ape!" marathons start. In September, CBS has the broadcast premiere of PLANET and the ratings are huge. They quickly follow with showings of BENEATH in October, then ESCAPE in November. On Christmas Eve 1973 my brother and I went to a double feature of CONQUEST and BATTLE at a local theatre. Boy, that was sure a season of the Apes.

-- Rory

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I am as well. Call me a completeist. ..

Chris L.

Well, the first and second ones looked good, but the others had lousy transfers, but whatever turns you on!

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:57 PM

Subject: [pota] Rothman -- the sequel

I forgot to mention that Tom Rothman appeared, he said, on the very same sound stage at Fox where the original APES test film was made with Eddy G. and Chucky back in 1966, BUT behind him were mannequins of ape characters from the bloody remake!  And, of course he had to say how much money the remake grossed without a word of how almost universally despised the thing is.  I wish him and the studio luck with another APES movie, but I've just been reading the comment board on Rothman over at IMDB and, man, is this guy hated.  He's blamed for ruining just about every franchise Fox has going -- and I must say I agree!  But, oh well, that's show business.

-- Rory 

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> I forgot to mention that Tom Rothman appeared, he said, on the very
> same sound stage at Fox where the original APES test film was made
> with Eddy G. and Chucky back in 1966, BUT behind him were mannequins
> of ape characters from the bloody remake! And, of course he had to
> say how much money the remake grossed without a word of how almost
> universally despised the thing is. I wish him and the studio luck
> with another APES movie, but I've just been reading the comment board
> on Rothman over at IMDB and, man, is this guy hated. He's blamed for
> ruining just about every franchise Fox has going -- and I must say I
> agree! But, oh well, that's show business.
>
> -- Rory
>
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