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From: Jeff

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:50 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

It's always bugged me.  It looks somewhat like her, but Natalie's eyes are a little more "slanted"

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim "apefan"

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

HArd to say...she's mighty cute, though!!!

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From: "LordTZer0@AOL. com" <LordTZer0@AOL. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:36:08 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

 

Not really.  It has been posed that it was Lisa.

Wether it is or not I recall someone saying

Natalie Trundy played the part, though it does

look like a different makeup to me, it may be.

 

 

In a message dated 2/7/2009 3:45:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@aol. com writes:

Interesting. They posted a pic of the female chimp in the breeding center as Lisa.

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From: RedSpy13@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:14 PM

Subject: [pota] RE: Female Apes

Is this a photo that was hanging in Roddy's dressing room?

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

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From: Dave B

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:05 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Stan Winston

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@ ...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone remember Tarzan legand of Greystoke , all i remember is
> when this came out they looked so real ( who was responsible ? ).

That was Rick Baker again.

Jeff wrote...

I don't know when that art was done but Stone's was the only
> version set in the past.

The dinos may tie in with a comment I remember hearing about Fox
wanting 'The Terminator' but getting 'The Flintstones' .

Dave

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From: RedSpy13@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:22 AM

Subject: [pota] RE: Stan Winston

Greetings.  Here is a photo of Rick Baker's work for "The Thing With Two Heads".  He was definitely ahead of the curve in apes makeup.

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

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From: Tim "apefan"

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:45 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Stan Winston

I believe Baker even played one of the gorillas.... or was tat Gorillas in the Mist?

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From: Dave B <smugster2000@ yahoo.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:05:30 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Stan Winston

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@ ...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone remember Tarzan legand of Greystoke , all i remember is
> when this came out they looked so real ( who was responsible ? ).

That was Rick Baker again.

Jeff wrote...

I don't know when that art was done but Stone's was the only
> version set in the past.

The dinos may tie in with a comment I remember hearing about Fox
wanting 'The Terminator' but getting 'The Flintstones' .

Dave

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That is sooo awesome!  I have never seen that before.  Thank you for posting.

Jessica.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:30 PM, <RedSpy13@...> wrote:

Greetings, everyone.  Attached is the photo from BATTLE of General Aldo (Claude Akins) drinking from a Mickey Mouse mug.  Enjoy!

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

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You have 3 kids and still have the time and energy to do all this! Now I am really impressed Jessica!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
>
> Person in second photo is the other ape fan of the household, Ashton, the
> youngest of my three boys.

Well there are no POTA conventions in the US either. Sometimes there might be a table or panel at a much larger SF or comic convention but they are usually very small. One of the biggest POTA exhibits in recent years was at the NEC Memorabilia Show in the UK about a year ago.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@...> wrote:
>
> I have said i agree that its universal, what i was trying to say is
> how pissed i get that we have no conventions or anything here in the
> U.K.
> Other than that i love our community speaking to people who enjoy my
> first real love affair with the movies from the U.K , U.S and
> Australia .
> And another thing how the bloody hell did Alfie Moon get his hands on
> the jail wagon from the film ????????
> Mark

I guess I have a lot of nervous energy.  I also slog away at the saltmines almost full time (35 hours per week), so I could afford my hobby and daycare.  As soon as Ashton hits first grade and is in school most of the day, I'm headed off to go to school fulltime so I can upgrade my degree from trained monkey to registered nurse.  It may take 3 years or so but I've got to do it. 

Jessica.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

You have 3 kids and still have the time and energy to do all this! Now I am really impressed Jessica!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
>

> Person in second photo is the other ape fan of the household, Ashton, the
> youngest of my three boys.

Thanks. I'll fix the reminder.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Title: Jerry Goldsmith was born on this day in 1939
>
> Date: Tuesday February 10, 2009
>
> Actually he was born in 1929.
>
> Anyway, if any of you have Sirius, today they are doing Goldsmith
> scores to Science Fiction films. Sure to be APES represented.
>
> Last night they played Goldsmith's score to the Twilight Zone episode
> "The Invaders."
>
> -- Rory
>

According to the script the chimp in the breeding center is identified as "Female Chimpanzee" so she was probably not Lisa.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Not really. It has been posed that it was Lisa.
> Wether it is or not I recall someone saying
> Natalie Trundy played the part, though it does
> look like a different makeup to me, it may be.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/7/2009 3:45:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
>
> Interesting. They posted a pic of the female chimp in the breeding center as
> Lisa.
>
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I think the problem with the saltmine is that much of what's down there is not cataloged. Fox doesn't want to spend the money to have people go down there and slog through everything to catalog it all.

Much of what FOX has released on DVD as original director's cuts or restored versions of films were most likely found by chance rather than by design. I wouldn't be surprized if the same is true of the alternate cut of Conquest.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> I've often wondered what the point of even having
> a vault is, if no one ever bothers to use the stuff.
> What are they waiting for? the 100th Anniversary?
> Maybe the 50th, but I won't get my hopes up.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/8/2009 7:31:37 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
>
> "Behind" DVD but no bloopers. I'm sure FOX must have them down in the salt
> mine. They just have to send someone down there to find the stuff.
>
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All these pics have been uploaded to the group's Photos section: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/spnew

Thanks to Tim and Jeff for sharing.

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U-matic tape was the first version of cassette video tape. The cassettes were about twice as big as standard VHS tapes. It was never produced for home use and was mainly used by university and libraries.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> What is a "U-matic" tape??
>
>
>
> > From: "LordTZer0@..." LordTZer0@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:08:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: P.O.T.A V's STAR WARS
>
>
>
> I saved some of those from school projects.
> Though I can't imagine why really. What am
> I going to play them on? Nice paper weight.
>
>
> In a message dated 2/8/2009 5:32:37 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> lawford42@juno. com writes:
> It's too bad that there aren't any old U-matic tapes of that broadcast.
>
> > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
>

Rick Baker did the make-up for that film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087365/fullcredits

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@...> wrote:
>
> There was also someone who made great steps in the special effects
> department in the way gorilla's looked .
> Does anyone remember Tarzan legand of Greystoke , all i remember is
> when this came out they looked so real ( who was responsible ? ).
> Mark

You have to wonder what a new film would have be like if FOX had gone with Roddy and Peter Jackson's proposal.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> One of Stone's POTA producers wrote the book "Killer Instinct" and said in it that there was a Fox producer who kept trying to get his ideas into it, wanting the human to teach the apes how to play baseball "like the "Flintstones"". The Flintstones movie was a big hit around that time (1994) so maybe that played into it.
> I got to ask Stone about it in 1996 and he was never really into the POTA project. He was just the name to wrap it around. It was something his "Natural Born Killers" producers wanted to do, and then after that movie came out he canned them even though that was his only hit in a while. So Fox moved on.
>
> "Greystoke" and "Gorillas in the Mist" are considered Baker's best apes. Stan Winston called "Gorillas in the Mist" the best movie apes ever.
>

Saltmine!!! Do you work for FOX? ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I also slog away at the saltmines
>

Wrong terminology.  I work at the SLAVEmines! 

Jessica.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:11 PM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Saltmine!!! Do you work for FOX? ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>

> I also slog away at the saltmines
>

?????????

Please.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "apecalypsenow" <apecalypsenow@...> wrote:
>
> I would like to see some screenshots of 1) air holes in the
> sequels/series 2) "flawed" ape mouths in the TV series.
>
> I'm going paranoid here.
>

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My condolences go out to his family.  He was another great actor in the APES saga.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/6/2009 5:56:05 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] James Whitmore RIP   James Whitmore. May he rest in peace.   http://www.latimes. com/news/ obituaries/ la-me-james- whitmore7- 2009feb07, 0,1015401. story   Al

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----- Original Message -----

From: James

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:08 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Stan Winston

You have to wonder what a new film would have be like if FOX had gone with Roddy and Peter Jackson's proposal.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> One of Stone's POTA producers wrote the book "Killer Instinct" and said in it that there was a Fox producer who kept trying to get his ideas into it, wanting the human to teach the apes how to play baseball "like the "Flintstones" ". The Flintstones movie was a big hit around that time (1994) so maybe that played into it.
> I got to ask Stone about it in 1996 and he was never really into the POTA project. He was just the name to wrap it around. It was something his "Natural Born Killers" producers wanted to do, and then after that movie came out he canned them even though that was his only hit in a while. So Fox moved on.
>
> "Greystoke" and "Gorillas in the Mist" are considered Baker's best apes. Stan Winston called "Gorillas in the Mist" the best movie apes ever.
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Tim "apefan"

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:45 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Stan Winston

I believe Baker even played one of the gorillas.... or was tat Gorillas in the Mist?

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From: Dave B <smugster2000@ yahoo.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:05:30 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Stan Winston

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@ ...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone remember Tarzan legand of Greystoke , all i remember is
> when this came out they looked so real ( who was responsible ? ).

That was Rick Baker again.

Jeff wrote...

I don't know when that art was done but Stone's was the only
> version set in the past.

The dinos may tie in with a comment I remember hearing about Fox
wanting 'The Terminator' but getting 'The Flintstones' .

Dave

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff K.

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:32 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] RE: Stan Winston

   I think Baker's first ape was in "Schlock!", a "King Kong" parody directed by John Landis. The gorilla gets shot down by none other than John Chambers. This was 1971, right in the "Ape" era.

 

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From: RedSpy13@aol. com

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:22 AM

Subject: [pota] RE: Stan Winston

Greetings.  Here is a photo of Rick Baker's work for "The Thing With Two Heads".  He was definitely ahead of the curve in apes makeup.

 

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I wonder if there's anyone here that lives in LA who can record it?

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:48 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] RE: Stan Winston

Schlock was played bt John Landis.  Rick is in the movie without make up.  He's the guy on crutches in the gym.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff K.

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:32 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] RE: Stan Winston

   I think Baker's first ape was in "Schlock!", a "King Kong" parody directed by John Landis. The gorilla gets shot down by none other than John Chambers. This was 1971, right in the "Ape" era.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: RedSpy13@aol. com

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:22 AM

Subject: [pota] RE: Stan Winston

Greetings.  Here is a photo of Rick Baker's work for "The Thing With Two Heads".  He was definitely ahead of the curve in apes makeup.

 

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The only problem is beards are too short.

It does however cut down on the time and

expense of using or making proper ones.

It's something you have to do unless you're

going to spend the money to have them made

or take the time to make them yourself.  And

unless you plan on being a professional wig

maker it really isn't worth it for either the

hair, the tools, or the time.  You've done

well though.  Can't fault the effort.

 

 

In a message dated 2/10/2009 10:36:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Well what do you think of the upside down human hair beard that I augmented with a LOT of fake hair?  I first combed out the hair product that the beard came with.  I then ironed out the coarseness of the hair, made it as smooth as possible.  I put a large curl on it with a hot curler....and then proceeded to augment the lace with fake dark brown hair two strands at a time, until you could not see the beard anymore.  The human hair beard is just there for "volume & body".  It took bloody forever, but you can't tell that it's a beard.  That's the part that goes on Zira's forehead...an upside down human hair lace beard augmented with fake hair.  Can you tell that it's a beard?

 

Jessica.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM, <LordTZer0@aol. com> wrote:

 

That's the problem with using beards.

The hair is too coarse.  I've tried just

about everything.  Nothing is going to

even come close to professional hair

goods.  But if you come up with an

alternative please post it.  I wish I

could.  I've mixed in wigs and even

my own hair.  It takes a pro.  And

if you read the article on Hunter's

site, John Chambers asks, "Who

made these wigs?"  When the wig

maker answers he replies, "These

are the best wigs I've ever seen!"

 

 

In a message dated 2/8/2009 3:28:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@ gmail.com writes:

It was actually a human hair lace beard, but there was no way it could have been combed and blended into the main wig without the augmentation of the additional hair. 

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It's a 3/4 inch, like a giant VHS casette, used for broadcast TV.

 

 

In a message dated 2/11/2009 12:02:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

What is a "U-matic" tape??

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The hair's a bit different too.

 

 

In a message dated 2/11/2009 12:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, skintricks@... writes:

It's always bugged me.  It looks somewhat like her, but Natalie's eyes are a little more "slanted"

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Mainly used for ENG, or Electronic New Gathering

actually.  That and broadcasting local commercials.

They'd throw them into an insert machine and queue

it up so when the feed allows for a local spot it's

played automatically.  Of course now it's all on a

hard drive, but you can probably google all this.

  

 

 

In a message dated 2/11/2009 2:59:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

U-matic tape was the first version of cassette video tape. The cassettes were about twice as big as standard VHS tapes. It was never produced for home use and was mainly used by university and libraries

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On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:45 PM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

 

The only problem is beards are too short.

It does however cut down on the time and

expense of using or making proper ones.

It's something you have to do unless you're

going to spend the money to have them made

or take the time to make them yourself.  And

unless you plan on being a professional wig

maker it really isn't worth it for either the

hair, the tools, or the time.  You've done

well though.  Can't fault the effort.

 

 

In a message dated 2/10/2009 10:36:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Well what do you think of the upside down human hair beard that I augmented with a LOT of fake hair?  I first combed out the hair product that the beard came with.  I then ironed out the coarseness of the hair, made it as smooth as possible.  I put a large curl on it with a hot curler....and then proceeded to augment the lace with fake dark brown hair two strands at a time, until you could not see the beard anymore.  The human hair beard is just there for "volume & body".  It took bloody forever, but you can't tell that it's a beard.  That's the part that goes on Zira's forehead...an upside down human hair lace beard augmented with fake hair.  Can you tell that it's a beard?

 

Jessica.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

 

That's the problem with using beards.

The hair is too coarse.  I've tried just

about everything.  Nothing is going to

even come close to professional hair

goods.  But if you come up with an

alternative please post it.  I wish I

could.  I've mixed in wigs and even

my own hair.  It takes a pro.  And

if you read the article on Hunter's

site, John Chambers asks, "Who

made these wigs?"  When the wig

maker answers he replies, "These

are the best wigs I've ever seen!"

 

 

In a message dated 2/8/2009 3:28:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

It was actually a human hair lace beard, but there was no way it could have been combed and blended into the main wig without the augmentation of the additional hair. 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Tim "apefan"

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:00 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

DId she say she was playing "Lisa" at the time or a different chimp?

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From: Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:59:11 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

  Natalie told me it was her. She was also the parrot in "Dr. Dolittle".

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:50 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

It's always bugged me.  It looks somewhat like her, but Natalie's eyes are a little more "slanted"

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim "apefan"

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

HArd to say...she's mighty cute, though!!!

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From: "LordTZer0@AOL. com" <LordTZer0@AOL. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:36:08 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

 

Not really.  It has been posed that it was Lisa.

Wether it is or not I recall someone saying

Natalie Trundy played the part, though it does

look like a different makeup to me, it may be.

 

 

In a message dated 2/7/2009 3:45:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@aol. com writes:

Interesting. They posted a pic of the female chimp in the breeding center as Lisa.

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But what hair she does have is almost feathered.

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/12/2009 1:47:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Well, Zira doesn't need long facial hair.  I guess I am lucky that way.  :)

 

Jessica.

 

 

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:45 PM, <LordTZer0@aol. com> wrote:

 

The only problem is beards are too short.

It does however cut down on the time and

expense of using or making proper ones.

It's something you have to do unless you're

going to spend the money to have them made

or take the time to make them yourself.  And

unless you plan on being a professional wig

maker it really isn't worth it for either the

hair, the tools, or the time.  You've done

well though.  Can't fault the effort.

 

 

In a message dated 2/10/2009 10:36:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@ gmail.com writes:

Well what do you think of the upside down human hair beard that I augmented with a LOT of fake hair?  I first combed out the hair product that the beard came with.  I then ironed out the coarseness of the hair, made it as smooth as possible.  I put a large curl on it with a hot curler....and then proceeded to augment the lace with fake dark brown hair two strands at a time, until you could not see the beard anymore.  The human hair beard is just there for "volume & body".  It took bloody forever, but you can't tell that it's a beard.  That's the part that goes on Zira's forehead...an upside down human hair lace beard augmented with fake hair.  Can you tell that it's a beard?

 

Jessica.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM, <LordTZer0@aol. com> wrote:

 

That's the problem with using beards.

The hair is too coarse.  I've tried just

about everything.  Nothing is going to

even come close to professional hair

goods.  But if you come up with an

alternative please post it.  I wish I

could.  I've mixed in wigs and even

my own hair.  It takes a pro.  And

if you read the article on Hunter's

site, John Chambers asks, "Who

made these wigs?"  When the wig

maker answers he replies, "These

are the best wigs I've ever seen!"

 

 

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It was actually a human hair lace beard, but there was no way it could have been combed and blended into the main wig without the augmentation of the additional hair. 

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From: Tim "apefan"

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:18 AM

Subject: [pota] Lisa (was: female apes)

I guess it will remain as a mystery..... ..

been thinking of Lisa while reading Rich's timeline....

One.....and this is a very small dispute Rich! ......You had put Lisa's age at 32 in Conquest based on Natalie's age (being born in 1959, film set in 91) but I think she would have been much younger....after all 40 something Roddy was playing teenager Caesar.....just a quibble!

and I have always believed that  Lisa never got credit for being the first to say "No" because no one heard her! It has been implied that her plea is what changed Caesar's mind on the burning steps to  come up with his (dubbed) speech....but it looks to me like he wouldn't have heard her.......

just some thoughts

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From: Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:37:30 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

  I think she said it was Lisa but she may not have got what they were going for. They probably just told her to play the scene and be seductive and she assumes it Lisa. But I'd say it isn't Lisa because it's different makeup and she acts unLisa-like. I guess it's up to the viewer. If it's Lisa that works too.

  She also said she let them cut her salary so they could pay Ricardo M. more. And she can't stand watching the electrocution scene, she has to leave the room.

   I looked at Joe's book "Revisited" to see if there's something about whether it's Lisa or not (doesn't say) and it says they wanted Kim Hunter to play Lisa but she turned them down. I think that's good, I think it would have been too much if it was Kim again.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim "apefan"

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:00 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

DId she say she was playing "Lisa" at the time or a different chimp?

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From: Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:59:11 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

  Natalie told me it was her. She was also the parrot in "Dr. Dolittle".

 

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From: Jeff

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:50 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

It's always bugged me.  It looks somewhat like her, but Natalie's eyes are a little more "slanted"

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From: Tim "apefan"

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

HArd to say...she's mighty cute, though!!!

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To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:36:08 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: female apes

 

Not really.  It has been posed that it was Lisa.

Wether it is or not I recall someone saying

Natalie Trundy played the part, though it does

look like a different makeup to me, it may be.

 

 

In a message dated 2/7/2009 3:45:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@aol. com writes:

Interesting. They posted a pic of the female chimp in the breeding center as Lisa.

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I actually gave the beard for Zira's sideburns a haircut and it now has a feathered look.  It was quick and easy and the results are amazing.  Going with a fake hair lace beard for her sideburns was a better choice than real human hair because it is much softer in texture.  Still wavy, yes, but not as wiry as real human hair lace.

I have a three-day weekend coming up.  HURRAY!  I think I can really finish everything of Zira's costume/outfit/makeup this weekend and do some minor details next weekend.  I can't wait to get my ape on.  It's been a LONG time coming.  I'll try to take lots of photos.

John I can't wait to see your upgraded costume.

Jess.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:59 AM, John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:

Dear Jess,

 

You do that. It took me three years to get my MA and work at the same time but in the end it's worth it.

 

I have also been experimenting with real hair as the photo's I sent you had very black hair pieces and wig. I have now gone dark brown as I want it to look more like Caesar.

Will send you picks soon

 

I cant wait to see you i your full "get up" as we say in the theatre.

 

JBK

From: jessica rotich

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:21 PM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!

I guess I have a lot of nervous energy.  I also slog away at the saltmines almost full time (35 hours per week), so I could afford my hobby and daycare.  As soon as Ashton hits first grade and is in school most of the day, I'm headed off to go to school fulltime so I can upgrade my degree from trained monkey to registered nurse.  It may take 3 years or so but I've got to do it. 

Jessica.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

You have 3 kids and still have the time and energy to do all this! Now I am really impressed Jessica!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
>

> Person in second photo is the other ape fan of the household, Ashton, the
> youngest of my three boys.

Just thought I jot a note after seeing CONQUEST today. I feel like a
POTA newbie...I have never seen the uncut version or the ending that
didn't have the..'But now..' added onto it, or the
killing..ahem ..smearing of Break! Awesome!!

>Posted by: "Tim "apefan"" apefan23@... apefan23
>been thinking of Lisa while reading Rich's timeline....

That's either flattering...or disturbing...depending on how you look at it. :)

>One.....and this is a very small dispute Rich! ......You had put
>Lisa's age at 32 in Conquest based on Natalie's age (being born in
>1959, film set in 91) but I think she would have been much
>younger....after all 40 something Roddy was playing teenager
>Caesar.....just a quibble!

Oh............crap, I didn't even take that into account.

Crap. Well, I guess that's one to correct in a future edition.

>and I have always believed that Lisa never got credit for being the
>first to say "No" because no one heard her! It has been implied that
>her plea is what changed Caesar's mind on the burning steps to come
>up with his (dubbed) speech....but it looks to me like he wouldn't
>have heard her.......

I like that theory--its simplicity makes it easy to accept.

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Hi, folks,

Does anyone know what the deal is with the Friends & Fugitives Yahoo
group? My membership to that group has been pending forever, without
acceptance or rejection, and my e-mails to the group administrator
have gone unanswered.

Rich

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There is a great scene in the movie Broadcast News where a producer is running a U-matic tape to the control room.

One thing that always bothered me about Battle is that they used reel to reel tapes instead of U-matic. Even in Conquest they are using cassette tapes. Seems like a backward step in technology.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Mainly used for ENG, or Electronic New Gathering
> actually. That and broadcasting local commercials.
> They'd throw them into an insert machine and queue
> it up so when the feed allows for a local spot it's
> played automatically. Of course now it's all on a
> hard drive, but you can probably google all this.
>

Whenever I see that scene I thing of the lasar table scene in Goldfinger, except this time they were expecting him to talk.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> And she can't stand watching the electrocution scene, she has to leave the room.

I got the impression that Caesar heard her which is why he changes. Maybe no one else did though or maybe she just wasn't the first Ape to say "No" to a human.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
>
> and I have always believed that Lisa never got credit for being the first to say "No" because no one heard her! It has been implied that her plea is what changed Caesar's mind on the burning steps to come up with his (dubbed) speech....but it looks to me like he wouldn't have heard her.......
>
> just some thoughts

Don't worry no POTA fan saw the Director's Cut of Conquest until last November so in a sense we are all newbies. LOL

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Lynne Miller" <cosmicraye1998@...> wrote:
>
> Just thought I jot a note after seeing CONQUEST today. I feel like a
> POTA newbie...I have never seen the uncut version or the ending that
> didn't have the..'But now..' added onto it, or the
> killing..ahem ..smearing of Break! Awesome!!
>

I don't know, Rich.  My membership is in limbo as well...

Jessica.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:38 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@...> wrote:

Hi, folks,

Does anyone know what the deal is with the Friends & Fugitives Yahoo
group? My membership to that group has been pending forever, without
acceptance or rejection, and my e-mails to the group administrator
have gone unanswered.

Rich

Okay, then it's not just a case of the moderators not liking
me--unless they don't like you either. :)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know, Rich. My membership is in limbo as well...
>
> Jessica.
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:38 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi, folks,
> >
> > Does anyone know what the deal is with the Friends & Fugitives Yahoo
> > group? My membership to that group has been pending forever, without
> > acceptance or rejection, and my e-mails to the group administrator
> > have gone unanswered.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
>

Hmm...never thought of it from that perspective....

:(

Jessica. 

YAY!  Happy Friday to me!!!

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 1:09 PM, rassmguy <handleyr@...> wrote:

Okay, then it's not just a case of the moderators not liking
me--unless they don't like you either. :)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know, Rich. My membership is in limbo as well...
>
> Jessica.
>

> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:38 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi, folks,
> >
> > Does anyone know what the deal is with the Friends & Fugitives Yahoo
> > group? My membership to that group has been pending forever, without
> > acceptance or rejection, and my e-mails to the group administrator
> > have gone unanswered.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
>

There is only one moderator of the F&F group. Unfortunately she went missing a while back and abandoned the group.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Okay, then it's not just a case of the moderators not liking
> me--unless they don't like you either. :)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich jessicarotich@ wrote:
> >
> > I don't know, Rich. My membership is in limbo as well...
> >
> > Jessica.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:38 AM, rassmguy handleyr@ wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, folks,
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what the deal is with the Friends & Fugitives Yahoo
> > > group? My membership to that group has been pending forever, without
> > > acceptance or rejection, and my e-mails to the group administrator
> > > have gone unanswered.
> > >
> > > Rich
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:38 AM

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Hi, folks,

Does anyone know what the deal is with the Friends & Fugitives Yahoo
group? My membership to that group has been pending forever, without
acceptance or rejection, and my e-mails to the group administrator
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----- Original Message -----

From: Tim "apefan"

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:09 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Lisa (was: female apes)

That's what I was thinking that no humans heard her....but even the way they edited the cut version of Conquest.... .they just cut to Caesar's eyes as he's looking out....he doesn't acknowledge that he heard her....bad editing..... or am I remembering it wrong?

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From: James <JamesA1102@aol. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 12:36:48 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Lisa (was: female apes)

I got the impression that Caesar heard her which is why he changes. Maybe no one else did though or maybe she just wasn't the first Ape to say "No" to a human.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@... > wrote:
>
>
> and I have always believed that Lisa never got credit for being the first to say "No" because no one heard her! It has been implied that her plea is what changed Caesar's mind on the burning steps to come up with his (dubbed) speech....but it looks to me like he wouldn't have heard her.......
>
> just some thoughts

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Simply beautiful! - Scott --- On Sat, 2/14/09, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote: From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> Subject: [pota] Zira Escape Outfit, 1:6 scale To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "POTA" <pota@yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 1:31 AM This is the second outfit in the world like this, but I do not own it.  It is enroute to its new owner in Kentucky.  Someday I will make one for myself...   http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/zira023. jpg   http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/? action=view&current=zira014. jpg     Jessica.

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Seems as if someone is selling reproductions of POTA posters, including
the rare PLANET door panels. I don't know how good the quality is, but
I may have to order the Dr. Zaius one to find out.

http://www.moviegoods.com/movie_product_static.asp?cmio=&sku=436846&dept%5Fid=2809&master%5Fmovie%5Fid=2809

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I found that hilarious.  Thanks for sharing.   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: Jeff K. Date: 2/11/2009 10:16:43 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] RE: Female Apes      Somehow I doubt it. : )  Too many bumps.   ----- Original Message ----- From: RedSpy13@aol. com To: pota@yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:14 PM Subject: [pota] RE: Female Apes Is this a photo that was hanging in Roddy's dressing room?   Jeff (RedSpy) A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

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Just wondering if any group member from LA will be attending this today.

Group moderator Glen Scheetz will be there, so be sure to say hi to Glen if you're going.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "c_tuppie" <c_tuppie@...> wrote:
>
> Attention all Los Angeles are POTA fans:
>
> You are cordially invited to a Planet of the Apes-Themed party and
> movie screening in Hollywood, attended by General Ursus, Cornelius and
> Dr. Zaius from Makeup & Monsters / Apemania.com! Here are the details:
>
> Date: This Sunday, February 15th, 2009
> Location: Cinespace
> Address: 6356 Hollywood Blvd. (at Ivar) on the second floor
> Time: 4:00 PM
> RSVP with your name and # in your party to: partyoftheapes@...
>
> Movie screening will begin promptly at 4:30 PM. Cinespace is being
> transformed by an award-winning Hollywood production designer into a
> fabulous ape-scape! Pose for pictures with apes in full authentic
> makeup and costumes! Also, enter to win fabulous POTA raffle prizes
> from 20th Century Fox!
>
> Admission is free with RSVP! Otherwise, it's only $1 at the door!
>

That is amazing Jessica.

Another group member was trying to recreate Zira's carpet bag a while back. Have you ever considered trying to tackle that?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> This is the second outfit in the world like this, but I do not own it. It
> is enroute to its new owner in Kentucky. Someday I will make one for
> myself...
>
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira023.jpg
>
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?action=view&current=zira014.jpg
>
>
> Jessica.
>

"Just wondering if any group member from LA will be attending this
today.
Group moderator Glen Scheetz will be there, so be sure to say hi to
Glen if you're going."

I just wonder if anyone going to it will tell the guy from Apemania
that plays "Zaius" to drop the wisecracks. Just when did Zaius turn
into such an A-hole?

-- Rory

I have to agree 100% with Jeff on this. Caesar's change of heart is entirely dependent on him hearing Lisa say "no".

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Well, the whole editing of that ending is pretty stiff. There was only so much they had to work with to totally change the intent of the ending. But there's no question he changes his mind because of her. Otherwise, there's no point in her saying "No" and no reason he changes his mind (that they can "afford to be humane"). As it is, many people feel it's an abrupt change (like the apes and humans suddenly being buds in POTA2001).
>

Welcome to the group. Please tells us more about yourself. When did you first become a POTA fan? Which is your favorite film?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Ritter <mindwarp19662005@...> wrote:
>
> im new to the group hello all and goodmorning from baltimore that was a great zira
>
>
>

Saw a reproduction of the Taylor one at a store in Rockefeller Center last year. The quality wasn't that bad.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Seems as if someone is selling reproductions of POTA posters, including
> the rare PLANET door panels. I don't know how good the quality is, but
> I may have to order the Dr. Zaius one to find out.
>
> http://www.moviegoods.com/movie_product_static.asp?cmio=&sku=436846&dept%5Fid=2809&master%5Fmovie%5Fid=2809
>
> -- Rory
>

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Thanks for sharing Tim!

BTW What Goldsnith music does it play?

The pics have been uploaded here: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Valentines/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Found this at the Hallmark store.....
> When you open it it plays Goldsmith music.....
>
> the quote is inside but the pic of Icarus is from the back!
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Just when did Zaius turn into such an A-hole?
>
> -- Rory
>

Well he is from New Jersey! ;-)

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:21 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes-Themed Party and Movie Screening at Cinespace

Just wondering if any group member from LA will be attending this today.

Group moderator Glen Scheetz will be there, so be sure to say hi to Glen if you're going.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "c_tuppie" <c_tuppie@...> wrote:
>
> Attention all Los Angeles are POTA fans:
>
> You are cordially invited to a Planet of the Apes-Themed party and
> movie screening in Hollywood, attended by General Ursus, Cornelius and
> Dr. Zaius from Makeup & Monsters / Apemania.com! Here are the details:
>
> Date: This Sunday, February 15th, 2009
> Location: Cinespace
> Address: 6356 Hollywood Blvd. (at Ivar) on the second floor
> Time: 4:00 PM
> RSVP with your name and # in your party to: partyoftheapes@ ...
>
> Movie screening will begin promptly at 4:30 PM. Cinespace is being
> transformed by an award-winning Hollywood production designer into a
> fabulous ape-scape! Pose for pictures with apes in full authentic
> makeup and costumes! Also, enter to win fabulous POTA raffle prizes
> from 20th Century Fox!
>
> Admission is free with RSVP! Otherwise, it's only $1 at the door!
>

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On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 7:26 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

That is amazing Jessica.

Another group member was trying to recreate Zira's carpet bag a while back. Have you ever considered trying to tackle that?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> This is the second outfit in the world like this, but I do not own it. It
> is enroute to its new owner in Kentucky. Someday I will make one for
> myself...
>
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira023.jpg
>
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?action=view&current=zira014.jpg
>
>
> Jessica.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

>
> Just when did Zaius turn into such an A-hole?
>
> -- Rory
>

Well he is from New Jersey! ;-)


Who's from New Jersey, the guy who plays Zaius or Zaius himself?

Because if you're going to start that "Ape City is in New Jersey"
business again, James......

-- Rory

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On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:37 AM, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

Jessica, you have done a superb job.  Keep up the excellent work!   Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: jessica rotich Date: 2/10/2009 10:36:25 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!   Well what do you think of the upside down human hair beard that I augmented with a LOT of fake hair?  I first combed out the hair product that the beard came with.  I then ironed out the coarseness of the hair, made it as smooth as possible.  I put a large curl on it with a hot curler....and then proceeded to augment the lace with fake dark brown hair two strands at a time, until you could not see the beard anymore.  The human hair beard is just there for "volume & body".  It took bloody forever, but you can't tell that it's a beard.  That's the part that goes on Zira's forehead...an upside down human hair lace beard augmented with fake hair.  Can you tell that it's a beard?   Jessica. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:   That's the problem with using beards. The hair is too coarse.  I've tried just about everything.  Nothing is going to even come close to professional hair goods.  But if you come up with an alternative please post it.  I wish I could.  I've mixed in wigs and even my own hair.  It takes a pro.  And if you read the article on Hunter's site, John Chambers asks, "Who made these wigs?"  When the wig maker answers he replies, "These are the best wigs I've ever seen!"     In a message dated 2/8/2009 3:28:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes: It was actually a human hair lace beard, but there was no way it could have been combed and blended into the main wig without the augmentation of the additional hair.  A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

 

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I called my local Hallmark store to find out if they had it in stock and they told me it was actually released last year and that any store that had them it's left over stock. - Scott   --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote: From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Valentine To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 2:33 PM It says "Main Title: but it doesn't sound like it to me.....sounds more like crossing the desert although it does have the "ape horn" at the end..... I'll listen to the soundtrack today and figure out where it's from....It's only 17 seconds From: James <JamesA1102@aol. com> To: pota@yahoogroups. com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:44:27 AM Subject: [pota] Re: Valentine Thanks for sharing Tim! BTW What Goldsnith music does it play? The pics have been uploaded here: http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/files/ Valentines/ --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@... > wrote: > > > > Found this at the Hallmark store..... > When you open it it plays Goldsmith music..... > > the quote is inside but the pic of Icarus is from the back! >

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>>For those who may be interested in seeing David Watson without

Ape
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Someone just dug too deep with the proverbial shovel to find meaning where there just isn't any. <<

>>second that scott ,shovel isnt big enough

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"Here's the Zira appliance from Apemania. I added some color to it
with rubber mask grease with a small paint brush and eventually ended
up using my fingers for the paint application, but Apemania had the
main color on it already, so they did the hard work.


http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira034.jpg

Jessica"

That color is pretty good, Jessica, but I'd still add to it once you
apply the pieces to your face. I'm talking real stage makeup (I assume
you have a kit?). If you look at Hunter as Zira in PLANET, you'll
notice her eyes are are heavily shaded. Also, the teeth will need to
be darkened and yellowed.

A lot of work.

-- Rory

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