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Group: pota Message: 51878 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: a few more pics
Group: pota Message: 51879 From: David Ritter Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: hey i was bored today so i knocked this ape sculpt off
Group: pota Message: 51880 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: hey i was bored today so i knocked this ape sculpt off
Group: pota Message: 51881 From: David Ritter Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: a few more pics
Group: pota Message: 51882 From: Rich Handley Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4395
Group: pota Message: 51883 From: Chris Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Ape Score at Oscars
Group: pota Message: 51884 From: Jeff Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: what
Group: pota Message: 51885 From: Mark Taylor Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Conquest - the Tom Scott mix
Group: pota Message: 51886 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: Ape Score at Oscars
Group: pota Message: 51887 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: [OT] Digest Number 4395
Group: pota Message: 51888 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: Conquest - the Tom Scott mix
Group: pota Message: 51889 From: Teddy Paw Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes-Themed Party and Movie Screening at Cinespace
Group: pota Message: 51890 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: Re: Ape Score at Oscars
Group: pota Message: 51891 From: Chris Lawless Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: four Apes alums in the 'In Memoriam' portion of the Academy Awards t
Group: pota Message: 51892 From: Shane Miller Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: Re: P.O.T.A V's STAR WARS
Group: pota Message: 51893 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: Re: My Sideshow Zira!!
Group: pota Message: 51894 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes-Themed Party and Movie Screening at Cinespace
Group: pota Message: 51895 From: rassmguy Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: Timeline of the Planet of the Apes--now available on Amazon.com
Group: pota Message: 51896 From: rassmguy Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: New POTA Humor Images Added
Group: pota Message: 51897 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 51898 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: My Sideshow Zira!!
Group: pota Message: 51899 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: Timeline of the Planet of the Apes--now available on Amazon.com
Group: pota Message: 51900 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: what
Group: pota Message: 51901 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Scrolls in SFX
Group: pota Message: 51902 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: Scrolls in SFX
Group: pota Message: 51903 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 51904 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: Bloopers
Group: pota Message: 51905 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: My Sideshow Zira!!
Group: pota Message: 51906 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: concerns about CAESAR
Group: pota Message: 51907 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: Ape Score at Oscars
Group: pota Message: 51908 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: Timeline of the Planet of the Apes--now available on Amazon.com
Group: pota Message: 51909 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 51910 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 51911 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Today........
Group: pota Message: 51912 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: a few more pics
Group: pota Message: 51913 From: Dave B Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 51914 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: 1/6 scale Virgil cast for sale
Group: pota Message: 51915 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!
Group: pota Message: 51916 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: Re: New POTA Humor Images Added
Group: pota Message: 51917 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: Re: Timeline of the Planet of the Apes--now available on Amazon.com
Group: pota Message: 51918 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: Re: My Sideshow Zira!!
Group: pota Message: 51919 From: scott bosco Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!
Group: pota Message: 51920 From: James Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 51921 From: James Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!
Group: pota Message: 51922 From: David Ritter Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: Re: a few more pics
Group: pota Message: 51923 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 51924 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/25/2009
Subject: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
Group: pota Message: 51925 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/26/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
Group: pota Message: 51926 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/26/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
Group: pota Message: 51927 From: James Date: 2/26/2009
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 51928 From: Dave B Date: 2/26/2009
Subject: Re: Caesar
Group: pota Message: 51929 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/26/2009
Subject: next step....talking!!!
Group: pota Message: 51930 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/26/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
Group: pota Message: 51931 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/26/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
Group: pota Message: 51932 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/26/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
Group: pota Message: 51933 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/26/2009
Subject: POTA is on everyone's mind!
Group: pota Message: 51934 From: David Ritter Date: 2/26/2009
Subject: question?
Group: pota Message: 51935 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
Group: pota Message: 51936 From: scott bosco Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
Group: pota Message: 51937 From: James Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: The Illustrated Monkey Planet
Group: pota Message: 51938 From: James Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 51939 From: James Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: Re: next step....talking!!!
Group: pota Message: 51940 From: James Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: Re: question?
Group: pota Message: 51941 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
Group: pota Message: 51942 From: David Ritter Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: Re: question?
Group: pota Message: 51943 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: New Music
Group: pota Message: 51944 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
Group: pota Message: 51945 From: Jeff Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: Re: New Music
Group: pota Message: 51946 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: Re: next step....talking!!!
Group: pota Message: 51947 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
Group: pota Message: 51948 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: Re: New Music
Group: pota Message: 51949 From: Jeff Date: 2/27/2009
Subject: crossover
Group: pota Message: 51950 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/28/2009
Subject: Re: New Music
Group: pota Message: 51951 From: James Date: 2/28/2009
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 51952 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/28/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 51953 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/28/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 51954 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/28/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 51955 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/28/2009
Subject: Re: New Music
Group: pota Message: 51956 From: Dave B Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Early Drafts
Group: pota Message: 51957 From: John B Kirtley Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Early Drafts
Group: pota Message: 51958 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Wondercon 2009
Group: pota Message: 51959 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: FW: Google Alert - planet of the apes
Group: pota Message: 51960 From: scott bosco Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Wondercon 2009
Group: pota Message: 51961 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Wondercon 2009
Group: pota Message: 51962 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Early Drafts
Group: pota Message: 51963 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Blu-ray PLANET audio
Group: pota Message: 51964 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Early Drafts
Group: pota Message: 51965 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Early Drafts
Group: pota Message: 51966 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Wondercon 2009
Group: pota Message: 51967 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Wondercon 2009
Group: pota Message: 51968 From: scott bosco Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Early Drafts
Group: pota Message: 51969 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Early Drafts
Group: pota Message: 51970 From: scott bosco Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Blu-ray PLANET audio
Group: pota Message: 51971 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Early Drafts
Group: pota Message: 51972 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Bloopers
Group: pota Message: 51973 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Bloopers
Group: pota Message: 51974 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: U-matic tape OT
Group: pota Message: 51975 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Conquest on Fox Movie Channel
Group: pota Message: 51976 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: Valentine
Group: pota Message: 51977 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
Subject: Re: David Watson - Beneath's Cornelius



Group: pota Message: 51878 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: a few more pics
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Those will look great when dyed!!
 
Jess.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:09 PM, David Ritter <mindwarp19662005@...> wrote:

hope these are better using a webcam  im also adding my unfinished verdon and burke photos im still waiting for the dye and ill add the belts and burkes vest i did yestarday


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Group: pota Message: 51879 From: David Ritter Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: hey i was bored today so i knocked this ape sculpt off
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i will bake it tomarrow at work then do the hair

From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] hey i was bored today so i knocked this ape sculpt off

You should add hair and show us how it looks.
 
It was yucky weather here, too, but I was able to finish my green jacket for Zira (1:1 scale).  yay!
 
Jess.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:35 PM, David Ritter <mindwarp19662005@ yahoo.com> wrote:

today i was stuck inside fowl weather and a tooth ache i was skimming through old marvel magazines (pota) and started sculptin this ape tell me what you think should i add a full ape hair or should i not so on. please dont be mean you will cripple me and i'll hide under a rock somewhare lol


From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:39:47 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: My Sideshow Zira!!

Kevin,
 
I'll get the mold and cast going for Zira...I still have to fix her beard area, since the rotocast is not as detailed as the hair I added.
 
I'll let you know once it's painted up and I'll post a photo.  If you're still interested, then you we can trade info off-group.
 
Jess. 

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 7:45 AM, <PofTAfan@aol. com> wrote:

Sounds reasonable.  I'll pay for that.


-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 2:01 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: My Sideshow Zira!!

Kevin,
 
$20 for the cast
$30 to paint it up...
and probably $6 to mail it to you tracked via USPS priority mail...or I could use first class and save $3. 
 
Jess.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:14 PM, <PofTAfan@aol. com> wrote:
It is so beautiful. How much would you ask for if I asked you to do one for me. If I may ask.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@optonline. net>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:54 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: My Sideshow Zira!!

Holy cow, that looks amazingly accurate--you've got amazing talent, Jess.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
>
> Check her out guys, and she's not done yet!! She's so beautiful to me!!
>
>
http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/? action=view&current=zira050. jpg
>
> http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/zira048. jpg
>
> Jess.
>






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Group: pota Message: 51880 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: hey i was bored today so i knocked this ape sculpt off
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Thanks.


-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 7:10 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] hey i was bored today so i knocked this ape sculpt off

You should add hair and show us how it looks.
 
It was yucky weather here, too, but I was able to finish my green jacket for Zira (1:1 scale).  yay!
 
Jess.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:35 PM, David Ritter <mindwarp19662005@ yahoo.com> wrote:
today i was stuck inside fowl weather and a tooth ache i was skimming through old marvel magazines (pota) and started sculptin this ape tell me what you think should i add a full ape hair or should i not so on. please dont be mean you will cripple me and i'll hide under a rock somewhare lol


From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:39:47 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: My Sideshow Zira!!

Kevin,
 
I'll get the mold and cast going for Zira...I still have to fix her beard area, since the rotocast is not as detailed as the hair I added.
 
I'll let you know once it's painted up and I'll post a photo.  If you're still interested, then you we can trade info off-group.
 
Jess. 

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 7:45 AM, <PofTAfan@aol. com> wrote:
Sounds reasonable.  I'll pay for that.


-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 2:01 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: My Sideshow Zira!!

Kevin,
 
$20 for the cast
$30 to paint it up...
and probably $6 to mail it to you tracked via USPS priority mail...or I could use first class and save $3. 
 
Jess.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:14 PM, <PofTAfan@aol. com> wrote:
It is so beautiful. How much would you ask for if I asked you to do one for me. If I may ask.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@optonline. net>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:54 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: My Sideshow Zira!!

Holy cow, that looks amazingly accurate--you've got amazing talent, Jess.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
>
> Check her out guys, and she's not done yet!! She's so beautiful to me!!
>
>
http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/? action=view&current=zira050. jpg
>
> http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/zira048. jpg
>
> Jess.
>





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Group: pota Message: 51881 From: David Ritter Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: a few more pics
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after seeing your work im humbled ... tyvvmuch


From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:40:37 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] a few more pics

Those will look great when dyed!!
 
Jess.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:09 PM, David Ritter <mindwarp19662005@ yahoo.com> wrote:

hope these are better using a webcam  im also adding my unfinished verdon and burke photos im still waiting for the dye and ill add the belts and burkes vest i did yestarday



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Group: pota Message: 51882 From: Rich Handley Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4395
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>Posted by: "Haristas@..." Haristas@... haristas
>I didn't know SF Universe was still around.

It was news to me as well when I heard from them. Apparently, they
changed format from print to blog.

>I have an old issue with a good article on APES I have to scan and
>get to Hunter one of these days.

Cool--I'll watch for that to get posted.

>Posted by: "Haristas@..." Haristas@... haristas
>Hey Rich,
>I see that you've also written about "Star Trek" in the past.

Yep. I've done a couple of articles for Star Trek Magazine, and I
was a columnist/reporter for Star Trek Communicator magazine from the
mid-90s until it ceased publication a few years back. The
Communicator editor, Larry Nemecek, is planning to launch a Star
Trek-based blog site with the Roddenberry estate, and I'll be writing
for that project as well. In addition, I was slated to write a Trek
comic for DC/Wildstorm when they had the license, but a last-minute
budget cut curtailed that opportunity (damnit!). I've since lost the
two story outlines I created due to a computer crash, much to my
frustration. One was a spotlight on Mot the barber, and the other
was about Spock's involvement with the Romulan underground. (Okay,
I'll put my bio away now.)

>I'm also a fan of Trek, though I wouldn't call myself a Trekkie or
>Trekker, but
>I seem to be the only one in the world that actually liked "Voyager."

Heh heh--yeah, that kind of sentiment can get you knifed in some
circles. As for me, I stopped watching it in season 4, when Seven of
Nine joined the show. After only a few episodes, I really disliked
what the Kes/Seven change said about the producers' belief regarding
what fans wanted from Star Trek. Since I was already very much not
enamored with the characters of Janeway, Chakotay, Paris, Kim,
B'elanna and Neelix, or the actors playing them, it wasn't difficult
to walk away. Kes, the Doctor and Tuvok were pretty much the only
characters that resonated with me, and even they weren't among Trek's
most interesting characters, so I figured I'd make a clean break when
I found myself looking at Seven's Patented Super Borg Boobs and
shaking my head.

It wasn't that I disliked Jeri Ryan, or her super boobs--I can
certainly appreciate both--it was just that even with someone who'd
been horribly mutilated into a monster, the producers STILL decided
to go for "drop-dead bombshell gorgeous" instead of daring to be
different and have an ugly or deformed female character in the
regular crew. And yet...

A few years ago, after selling off a large chunk of my collection and
having about a thousand dollars left after paying for a new bathroom
in my house, I decided to treat myself by picking up all 30 seasons
of Star Trek on DVD, something I never would have done otherwise, due
to the expense involved. With great reluctance, I rewatched
Voyager...and found, to my surprise, that I actually liked the
seasons with Seven MORE than the earlier ones, and she ended up
becoming my favorite character on the series. Jeri Ryan turned out
to be a much better actor than Mulgrew, Beltran and several others in
the cast, and Seven developed into more than just Borg Boobs. Who knew?

>I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the new film coming out?
>I'm looking forward to it, but I doubt there's going to be anything
>very different from what we've had in the past.

I have my fingers crossed for a great film--and I have a feeling it's
coming. I'm among the very few people in the world who thought
Insurrection was one of the best films in the series, and I think
Nemesis, despite some HUGE flaws and illogic problems (and a
completely wrong director choice) had potential.

But given the relative financial failure of those films, combined
with the negative rep Voyager has and the disappointing ratings and
early cancelation (not to mention truly horrid finale) that
Enterprise received, there's a LOT banking on this film. If it
tanks, that's pretty much the end of Trek for a while. But I'm
cautiously optimistic. I think Zachary Quinto is inspired casting,
and despite Chris Pine's eyebrows, he looks like he's going to work
out fine as well.

I'll admit I was a bit concerned with the "young hot people" casting
when I first saw who was in it, and I was particularly concerned
about Simon Pegg, who--despite being one of the best actors in the
cast--looks very little like Jimmy Doohan. I was also particularly
concerned about the time-travel/altered-universe motif (time travel
is probably the most overused plot in Star Trek), but the more I hear
about this story, and the more I see of it, the more excited about it
I've become. When the first full trailer was released, I found
myself grinning--especially with regard to Simon Pegg, who comes
across as very Scotty-like, much to my pleasant surprise. And McCoy,
I think, is going to be a hell of a lot of fun, too.

I'm not yet sold on poodle-curl Chekov...who, I notice, they've not
showcased at all in any of the trailers. And I think J.J. Abrams is
a great choice as director, but I find his "Star Trek should be more
like Star Wars" comments to be a bit redundant at times.

The fact that the film actually has Christopher Pike in it (something
I never imagined we'd see on screen), that Uhura's first name is
finally being officially set down on film as Nyota (until now, she's
been the only character without a canonized first name), that we're
meeting Kirk's parents for the first time, that Sarek and Amanda are
in it (and Ben Cross as Sarek--YES!), that Nimoy is in it, that
Doohn's son is in it, that Eric Bana is playing the villain...all of
this makes me think they're genuinely making an effort to make this a
good Star Trek movie in addition to it being a good movie--and both,
in my opinion, are important.

(Sorry you asked?)
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Group: pota Message: 51883 From: Chris Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Ape Score at Oscars
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When going to commercial after the romance montage on the Academy
Awards, the orchestra started playing the main title of Escape From The
Planet of the Apes..it sounded so good!
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Group: pota Message: 51884 From: Jeff Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: what
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Group: pota Message: 51885 From: Mark Taylor Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Conquest - the Tom Scott mix
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I finally sat down to watch the unrated version of Conquest (on the
blu-ray set) with the isolated score by Tom Scott. So much of Scott's
score went un-used that it is quite a revelation to see (or perhaps I
should say "hear") where music was supposed to play. I'm thankful that
Fox provided us with this isolated track, but I can't help but wish
that they had taken the next logical step and included a "rejected
mix" audio track. This "rejected mix" could have included all dialogue
plus as much of Scott's score as possible. It should be simple enough
to create such a thing. Perhaps a Tom Scott fan edit is needed.
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Group: pota Message: 51886 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: Ape Score at Oscars
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Yeah, that was very cool.
 
Al


From: Chris <ChristopherBligh@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:31:57 PM
Subject: [pota] Ape Score at Oscars

When going to commercial after the romance montage on the Academy
Awards, the orchestra started playing the main title of Escape From The
Planet of the Apes..it sounded so good!


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Group: pota Message: 51887 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: [OT] Digest Number 4395
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"With great reluctance, I rewatched Voyager...and found, to my
surprise, that I actually liked the
seasons with Seven MORE than the earlier ones, and she ended up
becoming my favorite character on the series."

Yeah, that's actually when the show started getting better, with much
better scripts. I think the first season was the worst.

I really never got into DS9 much, though I watched every episode, but
with all the modern Star Treks, the episodes I like best are the ones
with the most latex, which I guess is the legacy of so being into POTA
as a kid. I also very much like the DS9's with James Darren, again
going back to my liking of something else when I was a kid.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 51888 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/22/2009
Subject: Re: Conquest - the Tom Scott mix
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"I'm thankful that Fox provided us with this isolated track, but I
can't help but wish that they had taken the next logical step and
included a "rejected
mix" audio track. This "rejected mix" could have included all dialogue
plus as much of Scott's score as possible. It should be simple enough
to create such a thing. Perhaps a Tom Scott fan edit is needed."

I'll bet Alex could do that.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 51889 From: Teddy Paw Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes-Themed Party and Movie Screening at Cinespace
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "c_tuppie" <c_tuppie@...> wrote:
>
> Attention all Los Angeles are POTA fans:
>
> You are cordially invited to a Planet of the Apes-Themed party and
> movie screening in Hollywood, attended by General Ursus, Cornelius and
> Dr. Zaius from Makeup & Monsters / Apemania.com! Here are the details:
>
> Date: This Sunday, February 15th, 2009
> Location: Cinespace
> Address: 6356 Hollywood Blvd. (at Ivar) on the second floor
> Time: 4:00 PM
> RSVP with your name and # in your party to: partyoftheapes@...
>
> Movie screening will begin promptly at 4:30 PM. Cinespace is being
> transformed by an award-winning Hollywood production designer into a
> fabulous ape-scape! Pose for pictures with apes in full authentic
> makeup and costumes! Also, enter to win fabulous POTA raffle prizes
> from 20th Century Fox!
>
> Admission is free with RSVP! Otherwise, it's only $1 at the door!
>
Oh crap....Missed the event! Had to anyway, because of work....oh
well! Hopefully, there'll be another one locally soon....Maybe before
or during the cool part of summer.
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Group: pota Message: 51890 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/23/2009
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Also in the "In Memorium" segment, stars that passed were featured on several screens....quick glances at all during Ricardo Montalban's and James Whitmore's revealed no 'Ape' faces but the final image for Heston was Taylor.....


From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:54:11 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Ape Score at Oscars

Yeah, that was very cool.
Al


From: Chris <ChristopherBligh@ aol.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:31:57 PM
Subject: [pota] Ape Score at Oscars

When going to commercial after the romance montage on the Academy
Awards, the orchestra started playing the main title of Escape From The
Planet of the Apes..it sounded so good!



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Group: pota Message: 51891 From: Chris Lawless Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: four Apes alums in the 'In Memoriam' portion of the Academy Awards t
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Charlton Heston, Ricardo Montalban, Leonard Rosenman, and James Whitmore.

Time and tide.


Chris L.
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Group: pota Message: 51892 From: Shane Miller Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: Re: P.O.T.A V's STAR WARS
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Yes, I will have to do some digging, but I have just about all of it.  They were Luke, R2D2, C3PO, and I think it was Leia (or it could have been Chewy) I'm sure that someone out there can correct me on that.  Got em XMas morning but had to wait a few months for their arrival and man after that, it was an adventure getting the rest of them!

--- On Sun, 2/22/09, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
From: Chris Lawless <lawford42@...>
Subject: [pota] Re: P.O.T.A V's STAR WARS
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 6:06 PM

You mean that you still have the actual "Empty Box" and advertisements that came with it? I'd love to see a picture of everything- including the original four figures- if you're able to do that.
 
BTW, what were the original four figures?
 
Chris L.
 
 
 
"Shane Miller" <masonverger12@ yahoo.com> wrote:
 
>>Like many of you, I got that on Christmas morning.  I wish I had the box the figures arrived in, but I have everything else. <<
 
 
I wrote:
 
>>Ah, the old "Empty Box" promotion- absolutel y brilliant marketing. And for those of you wondering what I'm talking about:
 
"Back in 1977, Kenner celebrated the launch of the original Star Wars movie with a truly unique item: the "Empty Box" promotion. With the runaway success of Star Wars and no time to produce their now-famous figures in time for the holidays, Kenner offered Star Wars fans an alternative: an "Empty Box" that included no figures, but instead contained a mail-in certificate that fans could redeem for four 3.75" Star Wars action figures by mail-- the very first Star Wars figures ever made. "
 
from (http://www.rebelscum.com/SW05earlybird kit.asp) 


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Group: pota Message: 51893 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: Re: My Sideshow Zira!!
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I don't know about that, Rory.  The painted eyebrows and lipstick always throw me off and I can't see any resemblance...
Jess.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_1498.jpg



On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:23 PM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

"Dear Jessica,

He always looked kinder and more gentle in escape. He very rarely if
ever smiled in POTA 67.
Hope these are of help. I look forward to your Cornelius as I will
definitely want one (Rebel ape?)

John"

They definitely modeled the Mego Cornelius after the way he looked in
ESCAPE.

-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 51894 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/23/2009
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes-Themed Party and Movie Screening at Cinespace
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Scott, I've seen that numerous times.  It always makes me smile!!  Thanks for reminding me to see it again.  It's been awhile.

Jess.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 4:20 AM, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:

Jess,
I don't know if you've seen this, but I think you'll like it..
 
- Scott B


--- On Fri, 2/20/09, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes-Themed Party and Movie Screening at Cinespace
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 6:36 PM

Sounds very cool, Scott.  I'm going to have to try to make this one day.  I really hate the taste of fondant.  Butter icing is best...probably figure out a way to color that black...I do have a ball cake shell...two halves.  But for the cake I'm going to make I will probably find something smaller...which I am sure I can find somewhere in my cupboards... The only item that would have to be in fondant is the hieroglyph.  Everything else can be piped.  I'll make one for my b-day, I think, if I am not consumed in costume-making for Halloween. 

I deserve it!!

Jess.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:03 AM, scott bosco <digitalcinema@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Jess,
With your sculpting talent you could.  I once owned a store where I sold candy-making/ cake decorating materials and I know that although it look hard, it's easier that you may think.  The basic foundation of the cake is a sheet cake.  The mouth is probably half of a ball cake.  The rest is "fondant" with is a ply-able mixture of a powder and corn syrup which makes an edible-like clay.  You'd have no problem molding it into the shapes needed.  The black color is made first by adding brown food "paste" coloring to the fondant then once brown used "black" coloring to the brown.  If you add the black paste coloring only it will only reach an ugly shade of gray. 
It is also possible that they made it all in brown/chocolate then used an air brush with black coloring on the whole cake. 
Years ago when people would come to my house to watch a movie I would make a cake in theme to what we were viewing.  I made a Jurassic Park cake - a grassy rectangular cake with a jeep driving up to the Jurassic Park Gates (made of chocolate).  For a showing of episodes of SPACE:1999 I made a lunar landscape with Moonbase Alpha made from white chocolate. 
This Ursus cake is excellent but often they use so much fondant it is sickeningly sweet to eat.  It's easier to achieve visually what is needed with fondant, but I always stuck to icing instead and molding my own chocolate over the fondant - also because I'm allergic to corn and therefore the corn syrup in fondant.  Most everyone enjoys chocolate and icing so in the end the cake just tastes better.
- Scott B.


--- On Thu, 2/19/09, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes-Themed Party and Movie Screening at Cinespace
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 11:24 PM


That is the cutest cake.  I'm sure I could make one.  Just kidding...
 
Jess.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Jeff <skintricks@cox. net> wrote:
No, I didn't.  Oh well.  Here's the only picture I was able to get.
----- Original Message -----
From: James
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:00 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes-Themed Party and Movie Screening at Cinespace

Wow! You really did have a bad night. I guess you didn't get a copy of "The Ape" either.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff" <skintricks@. ..> wrote:
>
> I accidentally left mine on the table, and I didn't get a button.
>
> Jeff B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:27 AM
> Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes-Themed Party and Movie Screening at Cinespace
>
>
>
> Glen was there but I take it that you two didn't meet. Did you get one of the mini-posters?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." veetus@ wrote:
> >
> > Not a different perspective, I just tried to make the most of it.
> >
>





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Group: pota Message: 51898 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/24/2009
Subject: Re: My Sideshow Zira!!
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    That was a superb sculpt, Jess.  You're doing a fantastic job.  Thanks for sharing.
     
    Zach   
     
    -------Original Message-------
     
    Date: 2/21/2009 6:52:58 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] My Sideshow Zira!!
     

    jess beautiful sculpt ........... you can do my 20 female apes for my playsets.



    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
    To: POTA <pota@yahoogroups. com>; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:11:43 AM
    Subject: [pota] My Sideshow Zira!!


     
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    Group: pota Message: 51899 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/24/2009
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    I can't recommend this book highly enough.It is a must read for any
    self-respecting Apes Fan.Until I read this wonderful book, I don't
    think I had understood Apes at all.It's stunning.John, Scrolls.
    >
    > For those interested, or who had trouble using the Lulu ordering
    system...
    >
    > http://www.amazon.com/Timeline-Planet-Apes-Definitive-
    Chronology/dp/061525392X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235330213&sr=8-
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    Group: pota Message: 51900 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 2/24/2009
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    Wow that IS creepy!

    Bruce


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jeff <skintricks@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 2:42 am
    Subject: [pota] what








    Anyone else see this creepy thing yesterday? Great sculpting, but...



    http://cgi.ebay.com/Chester-the-Monkey-REBORN-BABY-GIRL-Planet-of-the-Apes_W0QQitemZ290298031416QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDolls?hash=item290298031416&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1318
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    Group: pota Message: 51901 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/24/2009
    Subject: Scrolls in SFX
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      Don't know if this was mentioned before but Scrolls is the featured fanzine in the UK mag SFX! (Not SciFiNow which I was looking for!) I forget which issue is it but I took a blurry pic with my phone in the store! This is probably old news to UKers!

      Tim

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      Group: pota Message: 51902 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/24/2009
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        Congrats to the lot of you. Oh, is that Brad Pitt?
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:31 AM
      Subject: [pota] Scrolls in SFX

      Don't know if this was mentioned before but Scrolls is the featured fanzine in the UK mag SFX! (Not SciFiNow which I was looking for!) I forget which issue is it but I took a blurry pic with my phone in the store! This is probably old news to UKers!

      Tim

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      Group: pota Message: 51903 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
      Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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      FYI

       

       

      Google Blogs Alert for: "planet of the apes"

      Notes From the Handbasket: In the Handbasket: Mario Acevedo
      By Laura Benedict
      PLANET OF THE APES (1968) My favorite post-apocalyptic movie, and yet another Charlton Heston flick. Though the more recent version with Mark Wahlberg (2001) has better special effects and the ending is more in keeping with the original ...
      Notes From the Handbasket - http://laurabenedict.blogspot.com/

      Big Nasty Brain: My Top 5 Favorite Science Fiction Movies (OF ALL ...
      By Adopted Son
      Admittedly, the sequels aren't as good as this first film (although I consider "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" to be the second half of the first film), but they do build on the mythology and raise the ultimate question of, ...
      Big Nasty Brain - http://bignastybrain.blogspot.com/

      Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto: Oscars Memoriam 2009
      By Neil W.
      Other movies of significance include: Planet of the Apes, Omega Man (based upon "I Am Legend" novel), A Man for All Seasons (He also directed this film). PAUL NEWMAN: Won 1 Academy Award for best Actor, won 1 honorary award, ...
      Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui... - http://orthoevangeluth.blogspot.com/

       

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      Group: pota Message: 51904 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
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      Most of those pics look like publicity photos taken on the set before the film was edited. I wonder of they were studio

      One odd thing about the Ursus/Zaius/Minister pic is that it is a reversed negative. You can tell because Ursus' gun & holster is on his left side.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
      >
      > A photo from that same scene seen here
      > (https://pota.goatley.com/magazines/fm80.pdf) shows Linda Harrison with a scarf
      > in her hair. Sixth page down.
      >
      > Actually, a couple of the photos from that article are strange. I don't
      > recall that particular scene of Brent choking Nova, and the one where
      > Ursus is staring right at the camera (when Zaius is receiving a blessing
      > from the Minister) is kind of strange considering the fact that at one
      > point the scene was (presumably) supposed to be in the film.
      >
      >
      > Chris L.
      >
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 51905 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
      Subject: Re: My Sideshow Zira!!
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      Amazing work Jessica. You really captured her likeness.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
      >
      > Here she is...she is finally done! This is my rehaired and repainted
      > Sideshow Zira. Enjoy!!
      >
      > http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_5779-1.jpg
      >
      > http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_5776.jpg
      >
      > http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_5787.jpg
      >
      > Jess.
      >
      > PS...I'm going to re-do the Sideshow Cornelius from both the first movie and
      > Escape...since he looks so very different in both. And, you can never have
      > too many apes. (At least I can never have too many).
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 51906 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
      Subject: Re: concerns about CAESAR
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      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
      >
      > I remember the debate between TOS and TNG, but I wasn't aware of fan of
      > TOS not accepting the movies. That's just plain stupid.
      >

      Well back in the '80s there were some hardcore fans who didn't like the new uniforms or changes to the Enterprise or even the music. They wanted Star Trek back exactly as it had been done in the '60s.


      >
      > >>I think the old vs. new BSG debate could go on for quite some time, but
      > since this is a POTA group I'll let this one rest before it goes on too
      > long. :-) However- just to clarify- I'm not saying that the new BSG
      > is a bad show, poorly written/acted/directed or anything like that. My
      > problem with it is simply that it's not Battlestar Galactica.

      Well then you're getting into the question as to exactly what BSG is. Is it the concept or the execution? There are many concepts from Sherlock Holmes to Tarzan to Buck Rogers to Batman that have had various executions over the years. Fans of one particular execution may not like another verision of the same concept. (I know there are fans of the '60 Batman TV series who hate the recent movies.) But just because the recent execution of BSG is different from the '70s version doesn't mean it is not still BSG. If BSG had been done in the '60s rather than in the '70s, after Star Wars, the execution might have looked entirely different.

      In the past there have been several dicussions here about what is POTA. (Is it just talking apes? If so then Lancalot Link is a version of POTA.) For most it is usually whatever version of POTA that first made them a fan. For some it is the movies, or even the first movie. For some it is the TV show or comics. I'm sure there are even some for which it is the novel who think the movie it not POTA.

      >
      > Another thing to remember is that if the original didn't have such a
      > diehard following and people writing to Universal requesting something
      > new year in and year out, you'd have to wonder if the new version would
      > have happened in the first place.

      The thing is Universal did not hire Ron Moore to revive BSG. He went to them because he was a fan of the original and had a vision to bring it back. Most likely any revival of the concept would have died after the Singer version was abandoned if it hadn't been for Moore.

      I think this was the main problem with Burton's POTA. For years FOX had been trying to revive the franchise. Tim Burton was just a hired gun, not someone who was a fan and really wanted to do it. That's what POTA needs. Someone who is a fan of the original and has a vision for its revival.

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      Group: pota Message: 51907 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
      Subject: Re: Ape Score at Oscars
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      I noticed that too. I had to run it back to make sure I wasn't imaging things.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <ChristopherBligh@...> wrote:
      >
      > When going to commercial after the romance montage on the Academy
      > Awards, the orchestra started playing the main title of Escape From The
      > Planet of the Apes..it sounded so good!
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 51908 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
      Subject: Re: Timeline of the Planet of the Apes--now available on Amazon.com
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      Congrats Rich! Now no one has an excuse for not ordering this great book.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
      >
      > For those interested, or who had trouble using the Lulu ordering system...
      >
      > http://www.amazon.com/Timeline-Planet-Apes-Definitive-Chronology/dp/061525392X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235330213&sr=8-3
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 51909 From: James Date: 2/24/2009
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      Thanks Dave. Very strange crossover. Of course I would put it past FOX. What's next? Aliens on the Planet of the Apes, Die Hard on the Planet of the Apes, X-Men vs. the Apes.


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
      >
      >
      > Hello,
      >
      > This email message is a notification to let you know that
      > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the pota
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      Group: pota Message: 51911 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/24/2009
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      HAPPY MARDI GRAS!!!

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      Group: pota Message: 51912 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/24/2009
      Subject: Re: a few more pics
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        David, those are great!  Thanks for sharing.
         
        Zach   
         
        -------Original Message-------
         
        Date: 02/22/09 18:36:45
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] a few more pics
         

        hope these are better using a webcam  im also adding my unfinished verdon and burke photos im still waiting for the dye and ill add the belts and burkes vest i did yestarday

         
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        Group: pota Message: 51913 From: Dave B Date: 2/25/2009
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        I actually think a Predator on the POTA is one of the few cross-overs
        that might be made to work.

        Maybe a Predator was responsible for the loss of some of Ursus'
        scouts? Maybe the explosion witnessed by Zira and Cornelius was the
        Predator's ship self-destructing?

        Dave



        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
        >
        >
        > Thanks Dave. Very strange crossover. Of course I would put it past FOX.
        > What's next? Aliens on the Planet of the Apes, Die Hard on the Planet of
        > the Apes, X-Men vs. the Apes.
        >
        >
        > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
        > >
        > >
        > > Hello,
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        > >
        > > smugster2000 smugster2000@
        > >
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 51914 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/25/2009
        Subject: 1/6 scale Virgil cast for sale
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        If anybody's interested in acquiring this, you may contact me off-group.
        Cast = $20
        Paint = $30
        shipping = $6 or $3 (depending on how you want him to get to you via USPS). Overseas folks, just $6 for first class air mail.
        If you want to wait and buy several heads to save on shipping costs, let me know. So far in 1:6 scale, I only have Carsia and Dr. Milo available. I am slowly trying to make molds and casts of the other sculpts I have. I think I have 18 so far but four of them I am still tweaking.
        Jessica.
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        Group: pota Message: 51915 From: jessica rotich Date: 2/25/2009
        Subject: Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!
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        Here is a photo of my outfit for Wondercon this Saturday:
        Jess.

        On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
        Wow!! My translucent Kryolan anti-shine powder came today. That was fast!! And...I can also use it to deaden the shine when I paint up my action figures. BONUS!!

        I will definitely bring a digital camera. I only have to sew the chest pocket behind the hieroglyph for a notepad, and MacGuyver a pen with some Apoxie...and I think that's it as far as tweaking my costume. The moment of truth comes on February 28. It's been a long 35 years of waiting to get my ape on.

        Jessica.


        On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Tim apefan <apefan23@...> wrote:

        well, we all certainly appreciate AND encourage you, Jessica! just make sure you take your CAMERA!!!

        Tim


        From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:35:21 AM

        Subject: Re: [pota] Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!

        I've sewn deep pockets in my brown underdress for keys, my ID, cash (and my plastic nemesis--I will try not to use that while at the con)...
        Unfortunately, I have to carry a purse for the extra stuff I need for touch-ups and for my liquid nutrition.
        So, in a nutshell, Jessica's gone to the Forbidden Zone. Family is dismayed at the level of effort I put into my obsessions, but whatever. I am here to have fun.
        Jessica.

        On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM, <LordTZer0@aol. com> wrote:

        It's been said makeup is a process
        not an effect. Remember, actors
        have touch ups between takes
        and after lunch. You probably
        have to re-glue your jaw at
        some point during the day.
        In a message dated 2/17/2009 4:01:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@ gmail.com writes:
        For the effort I will put into the makeup I may as well wear it all day.


        A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!





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        Group: pota Message: 51916 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/25/2009
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          Those were great!  Thanks!
           
          Zach   
           
          -------Original Message-------
           
          From: rassmguy
          Date: 2/23/2009 10:16:48 PM
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [pota] New POTA Humor Images Added
           
           
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          Group: pota Message: 51917 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/25/2009
          Subject: Re: Timeline of the Planet of the Apes--now available on Amazon.com
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            My sentiments exactly. 
             
            Zach   
             
            -------Original Message-------
             
            Date: 2/24/2009 5:46:44 AM
            To: pota@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [pota] Re: Timeline of the Planet of the Apes--now available on Amazon.com
             

            I can't recommend this book highly enough.It is a must read for any
            self-respecting Apes Fan.Until I read this wonderful book, I don't
            think I had understood Apes at all.It's stunning.John, Scrolls.

            >
            > For those interested, or who had trouble using the Lulu ordering
            system...
            >
            > http://www.amazon. com/Timeline- Planet-Apes- Definitive-
            Chronology/dp/ 061525392X/ ref=sr_1_ 3?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid= 1235330213& sr=8-
            3
            >

             
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            Group: pota Message: 51918 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/25/2009
            Subject: Re: My Sideshow Zira!!
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              You certainly did.  That's superb!
               
              Zach   
               
              -------Original Message-------
               
              From: James
              Date: 2/24/2009 12:00:59 PM
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [pota] Re: My Sideshow Zira!!
               

              Amazing work Jessica. You really captured her likeness.


              --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
              >
              > Here she is...she is finally done! This is my rehaired and repainted
              > Sideshow Zira. Enjoy!!
              >
              > http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/IMG_ 5779-1.jpg
              >
              > http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/IMG_ 5776.jpg
              >
              > http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/IMG_ 5787.jpg
              >
              > Jess.
              >
              > PS...I'm going to re-do the Sideshow Cornelius from both the first movie and
              > Escape...since he looks so very different in both. And, you can never have
              > too many apes. (At least I can never have too many).
              >

               
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              Group: pota Message: 51919 From: scott bosco Date: 2/25/2009
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              Everything looks great - I love those feet!
              - Scott B.

              --- On Wed, 2/25/09, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
              From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 3:47 AM

              Here is a photo of my outfit for Wondercon this Saturday:
               
               
               
              Jess.

              On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
              Wow!!  My translucent Kryolan anti-shine powder came today.  That was fast!!  And...I can also use it to deaden the shine when I paint up my action figures.  BONUS!!

              I will definitely bring a digital camera.  I only have to sew the chest pocket behind the hieroglyph for a notepad, and MacGuyver a pen with some Apoxie...and I think that's it as far as tweaking my costume.  The moment of truth comes on February 28.  It's been a long 35 years of waiting to get my ape on.

              Jessica.


              On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Tim apefan <apefan23@yahoo. com> wrote:
              well, we all certainly appreciate AND encourage you, Jessica! just make sure you take your CAMERA!!!     

              Tim


              From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
              To: pota@yahoogroups. com
              Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:35:21 AM

              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!

              I've sewn deep pockets in my brown underdress for keys, my ID, cash (and my plastic nemesis--I will try not to use that while at the con)...
               
              Unfortunately, I have to carry a purse for the extra stuff I need for touch-ups and for my liquid nutrition.
               
              So, in a nutshell, Jessica's gone to the Forbidden Zone.  Family is dismayed at the level of effort I put into my obsessions, but whatever.  I am here to have fun.
               
              Jessica.

              On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM, <LordTZer0@aol. com> wrote:
               
              It's been said makeup is a process
              not an effect.  Remember, actors
              have touch ups between takes
              and after lunch.  You probably
              have to re-glue your jaw at
              some point during the day.
               
               
              In a message dated 2/17/2009 4:01:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@ gmail.com writes:
              For the effort I will put into the makeup I may as well wear it all day. 


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              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
              >
              > I actually think a Predator on the POTA is one of the few cross-overs
              > that might be made to work.
              >
              Sure you say that now but when it leads to 'Home Alone on the Planet of the Apes' you'll be singing a different tune;-)
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              Group: pota Message: 51921 From: James Date: 2/25/2009
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              That looks great Jessica. Be sure and send us plenty of pics from WonderCon.


              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
              >
              > Here is a photo of my outfit for Wondercon this Saturday:
              >
              > http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/zira063.jpg
              >
              >
              > Jess.
              >
              > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM, jessica rotich jessicarotich@...wrote:
              >
              > > Wow!! My translucent Kryolan anti-shine powder came today. That was
              > > fast!! And...I can also use it to deaden the shine when I paint up my
              > > action figures. BONUS!!
              > >
              > > I will definitely bring a digital camera. I only have to sew the chest
              > > pocket behind the hieroglyph for a notepad, and MacGuyver a pen with some
              > > Apoxie...and I think that's it as far as tweaking my costume. The moment of
              > > truth comes on February 28. It's been a long 35 years of waiting to get my
              > > ape on.
              > >
              > > Jessica.
              > >
              > >
              > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Tim apefan apefan23@... wrote:
              > >
              > >> well, we all certainly appreciate AND encourage you, Jessica! just
              > >> make sure you take your CAMERA!!!
              > >>
              > >> Tim
              > >>
              > >> ------------------------------
              > >> *From:* jessica rotich jessicarotich@...
              > >> *To:* pota@yahoogroups.com
              > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:35:21 AM
              > >> *Subject:* Re: [pota] Re: It's crunch time for Wondercon!!
              > >>
              > >> I've sewn deep pockets in my brown underdress for keys, my ID, cash (and
              > >> my plastic nemesis--I will try not to use that while at the con)...
              > >>
              > >> Unfortunately, I have to carry a purse for the extra stuff I need for
              > >> touch-ups and for my liquid nutrition.
              > >>
              > >> So, in a nutshell, Jessica's gone to the Forbidden Zone. Family is
              > >> dismayed at the level of effort I put into my obsessions, but whatever. I
              > >> am here to have fun.
              > >>
              > >> Jessica.
              > >>
              > >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM, LordTZer0@aol. com LordTZer0@...>wrote:
              > >>
              > >>>
              > >>> It's been said makeup is a process
              > >>> not an effect. Remember, actors
              > >>> have touch ups between takes
              > >>> and after lunch. You probably
              > >>> have to re-glue your jaw at
              > >>> some point during the day.
              > >>>
              > >>>
              > >>> In a message dated 2/17/2009 4:01:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@
              > >>> gmail.com jessicarotich@... writes:
              > >>>
              > >>> For the effort I will put into the makeup I may as well wear it all day.
              > >>>
              > >>>
              > >>> ------------------------------
              > >>> *A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!<http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=febemailfooterNO62>
              > >>> *
              > >>>
              > >>>
              > >>
              > >>
              > >>
              > >
              > >
              >

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              Group: pota Message: 51922 From: David Ritter Date: 2/25/2009
              Subject: Re: a few more pics
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              ty


              From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...>
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:25:54 PM
              Subject: Re: [pota] a few more pics

              David, those are great!  Thanks for sharing.
               
              Zach   
               
              -------Original Message----- --
               
              Date: 02/22/09 18:36:45
              Subject: [pota] a few more pics
               

              hope these are better using a webcam  im also adding my unfinished verdon and burke photos im still waiting for the dye and ill add the belts and burkes vest i did yestarday

               



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              Group: pota Message: 51923 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/25/2009
              Subject: Re: New file uploaded to pota
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              I still think that Close Encouters of the Third Kind on the Planet of the Apes  would be
              a great idea.


              -----Original Message-----
              From: James <JamesA1102@...>
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:26 am
              Subject: [pota] Re: New file uploaded to pota


              --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@ ...> wrote:
              >
              > I actually think a Predator on the POTA is one of the few cross-overs
              > that might be made to work.
              >
              Sure you say that now but when it leads to 'Home Alone on the Planet of the Apes' you'll be singing a different tune;-)
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              Group: pota Message: 51924 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/25/2009
              Subject: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
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               After 20 years with News Corp. and 12 years as the # 2 man there behind Rupert Murdoch, Peter Chernin is stepping down. How that will effect Fox remains to be seen but so far Wall St. doesn't seem to like it. But it looks like Fox heads Jim Gianopulos and Tom Rothman will stick around and have increased power. It doesn't look like a # 2 man will be named right away. Rupe wants his kids to run it eventually.
                For those interested in the executive soap opera, this is a good article:
               
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              Group: pota Message: 51925 From: shanter2002 Date: 2/26/2009
              Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
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              A UK Scrolls reader has written to me saying he's read that--and I am
              NOT making this up nor saying it's true--that names linked to the new
              Apes movie include Russell Crowe, Julia Roberts and, as a chimp, Danny
              De Vito.I know, I know, it's almost certainly bullshit, but has anybody
              else heard this?I don't want this posting to be the start of
              the 'internet rumour links Croew to Apes'story! John, Scrolls.
              >
              > After 20 years with News Corp. and 12 years as the # 2 man there
              behind Rupert Murdoch, Peter Chernin is stepping down. How that will
              effect Fox remains to be seen but so far Wall St. doesn't seem to like
              it. But it looks like Fox heads Jim Gianopulos and Tom Rothman will
              stick around and have increased power. It doesn't look like a # 2 man
              will be named right away. Rupe wants his kids to run it eventually.
              > For those interested in the executive soap opera, this is a good
              article:
              > http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-02-
              24/splitsville-murdoch-style/
              >
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              Group: pota Message: 51926 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/26/2009
              Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
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                No, I've heard nothing about those rumors. As far as I know, right now they're trying to figure out the script. (Julia Roberts?).
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:34 AM
              Subject: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

              A UK Scrolls reader has written to me saying he's read that--and I am
              NOT making this up nor saying it's true--that names linked to the new
              Apes movie include Russell Crowe, Julia Roberts and, as a chimp, Danny
              De Vito.I know, I know, it's almost certainly bullshit, but has anybody
              else heard this?I don't want this posting to be the start of
              the 'internet rumour links Croew to Apes'story! John, Scrolls.
              >
              > After 20 years with News Corp. and 12 years as the # 2 man there
              behind Rupert Murdoch, Peter Chernin is stepping down. How that will
              effect Fox remains to be seen but so far Wall St. doesn't seem to like
              it. But it looks like Fox heads Jim Gianopulos and Tom Rothman will
              stick around and have increased power. It doesn't look like a # 2 man
              will be named right away. Rupe wants his kids to run it eventually.
              > For those interested in the executive soap opera, this is a good
              article:
              > http://www.thedaily beast.com/ blogs-and- stories/2009- 02-
              24/splitsville- murdoch-style/
              >

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              Group: pota Message: 51927 From: James Date: 2/26/2009
              Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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              FYI

               

               

              Google News Alert for: "planet of the apes"

              iFMagazine

              What iF Score Picks: 'DOCTOR WHO: SERIES 4' ONE OF THE TOP ...
              iFMagazine - USA
              Imagine RAMBO kicking ass on THE PLANET OF THE APES, and youl hear the full-throttle inspiration that the composer brought to this terrifically ...
              See all stories on this topic

              The Dean's Office: I hate every ape I see, from chimpan-A to ...
              By Dean Wormer
              I hate every ape I see, from chimpan-A to chimpanzee. No, you'll never make a monkey out of me! This is a bit of an enigma. On Facebook I recently found somebody named "Doc Zaius" who looks suspiciously like our own Doctor Zaius of ...
              The Dean's Office - http://deansoffice.blogspot.com/

               

              Star Wars Author Co-founds Book Publisher
              TheForce.net - USA
              "To celebrate the 40th anniversary of Planet of the Apes, Hasslein Books announces an extensive chronology by author Rich Handley. ...
              See all stories on this topic

               

              Throwawayblog: House Bans Pet Apes- "Planet of the Apes" Future ...
              By dmarks
              As those of us familiar with "Planet of the Apes" know, eventually a space-borne disease will kill off all of the dogs and cats on earth. This results in people replacing them with apes as pets. Eventually, these apes become slaves, ...
              Throwawayblog - http://inaholdingpattern.blogspot.com/

               

              The Shark Guys » Top 10 Pissed off Primate and Murderous Monkey Movies
              By thesharkguys
              3) Planet of the Apes: We do not accept Mark Wahlberg’s bastardization of this classic role and for us Charlton — “Get your stinkin’ paws off me, you damned dirty ape!” — Heston will be the one and only “Taylor” for us. ...
              The Shark Guys - http://www.thesharkguys.com/

               

              Truth v. The Machine » Archives » It’s a madhouse! A mad House!
              By Carnivore
              Because as that famous documentary Planet of the Apes has shown us, if chimps actually begin to associate with humans, it won’t be long until they take over and all humans will be hunted down like cattle and put on trial. ...
              Truth v. The Machine - http://www.truthvmachine.com/

               

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              Group: pota Message: 51928 From: Dave B Date: 2/26/2009
              Subject: Re: Caesar
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              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
              >
              > A UK Scrolls reader has written to me saying he's read that--

              Does this guy READ scrolls or SMOKE it!

              Dave
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              Group: pota Message: 51929 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/26/2009
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              Group: pota Message: 51930 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/26/2009
              Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
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              Danny De Vito? I heard it was Al Pacino.
               
              Damn it all the hell. :(
               
              Al 


              From: shanter2002 <john@...>
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:34:11 AM
              Subject: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

              A UK Scrolls reader has written to me saying he's read that--and I am
              NOT making this up nor saying it's true--that names linked to the new
              Apes movie include Russell Crowe, Julia Roberts and, as a chimp, Danny
              De Vito.I know, I know, it's almost certainly bullshit, but has anybody
              else heard this?I don't want this posting to be the start of
              the 'internet rumour links Croew to Apes'story! John, Scrolls.

              >
              > After 20 years with News Corp. and 12 years as the # 2 man there
              behind Rupert Murdoch, Peter Chernin is stepping down. How that will
              effect Fox remains to be seen but so far Wall St. doesn't seem to like
              it. But it looks like Fox heads Jim Gianopulos and Tom Rothman will
              stick around and have increased power. It doesn't look like a # 2 man
              will be named right away. Rupe wants his kids to run it eventually.
              > For those interested in the executive soap opera, this is a good
              article:
              > http://www.thedaily beast.com/ blogs-and- stories/2009- 02-
              24/splitsville- murdoch-style/
              >


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              Group: pota Message: 51931 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/26/2009
              Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
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              Oh God!  It's Paul "Limbo" Giamatti all over again.
              Only worse!
               
               
              In a message dated 2/26/2009 8:34:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, john@... writes:
              and, as a chimp, Danny
              De Vito


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              Group: pota Message: 51932 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/26/2009
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                That'd be fine with me if Paul Giamatti stars in "Caesar" as the human. He's a good actor.
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:53 PM
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

               
              Oh God!  It's Paul "Limbo" Giamatti all over again.
              Only worse!
               
               
              In a message dated 2/26/2009 8:34:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, john@johnroche6. wanadoo.co. uk writes:
              and, as a chimp, Danny
              De Vito


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              Group: pota Message: 51933 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/26/2009
              Subject: POTA is on everyone's mind!
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              Strange today I've heard POTA referred to twice! On NPR a movie critic mentioned it in his report about New Yorker Films demise and just now a character on "ER" was coming out of a vacuum tube and he said "it's like one of those things in Planet of the Apes...the original one." (talking about the ship beds)

              Not to mention many Google alerts mentioning it unfortunately in reference to the chimp killed last week and the New York Post cartoon....

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              Group: pota Message: 51934 From: David Ritter Date: 2/26/2009
              Subject: question?
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              ok its 10.55 pm my time............. if i were living in the timeline of conquest and i owned a chimp i would name him ri-naldowhat would you name your ape slave?

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              Group: pota Message: 51935 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/27/2009
              Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
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              Agree.
              Paul Giamatti is great.

               

              Al




              From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:28:29 PM
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

                That'd be fine with me if Paul Giamatti stars in "Caesar" as the human. He's a good actor.
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:53 PM
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

               
              Oh God!  It's Paul "Limbo" Giamatti all over again.
              Only worse!
               
               
              In a message dated 2/26/2009 8:34:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, john@johnroche6. wanadoo.co. uk writes:
              and, as a chimp, Danny
              De Vito


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              Group: pota Message: 51936 From: scott bosco Date: 2/27/2009
              Subject: Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
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              That's one peson who's face shouldn't be projected larger than  8x10.  There outta be a law.
              - Scott B.

              --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:
              From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 10:28 PM

                That'd be fine with me if Paul Giamatti stars in "Caesar" as the human. He's a good actor.
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:53 PM
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

               
              Oh God!  It's Paul "Limbo" Giamatti all over again.
              Only worse!
               
               
              In a message dated 2/26/2009 8:34:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, john@johnroche6. wanadoo.co. uk writes:
              and, as a chimp, Danny
              De Vito


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              Group: pota Message: 51937 From: James Date: 2/27/2009
              Subject: The Illustrated Monkey Planet
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              It's Friday again which only means this week's installment of THE ILLUSTRATED MONKEY PLANET is now available. Thanks again to Dave Ballard. Be sure to come back next week for the final installment and in two weeks for an exciting new weekly feature.

              To access click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MPC.htm

              Also, it seems that many of our newer members (and even some of the older ones) are unaware of the resources available on the Group Website, so it might be helpful to review.

              The Group Website is broken into 3 main areas: POTA ONE SHEETS, ART & INFO and VIDEO.

              POTA ONE SHEETS consists of high quality scans of the original One Sheet posters, Lobby Cards, Half Sheets and the Promotional Heralds. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/OneSheets.htm

              In the VIDEO section you can find everything from the recent FOX Legacy special to Roddy's appearance in Ape Make-up on the Carol Burnett Show in 1974 as well as Original Trailers, Roddy's Home Movies, POTA as Twilight Zone episode, the screen test with Edward G. Robinson,  POTA Spoofs from the Simpsons, Spaceballs and Jay & Silent Bob. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Videos.htm

              The ART & INFO section contains a Character Database, Maps (including recreations of the movie and TV series maps by Glen Scheetz & Dave Ballard), a Cover Gallary with Marvel covers restored by Dave, Costume Designs with original sketchs, an Interactive Timeline, Toys, vintage TV Ads for the movies and TV series, Trading Cards including the original 1968 Topps Set & the 1998 Archive set & the more recent Rittenhouse sets and an extensive Downloads page with DVD covers, PDFs of the first 2 Marvel issues, POTA Bookmarks by Dave, Program Booklets and more. http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Art&Info.htm

              All member can access the Group Website by clicking on the banner on the Yahoo home page or with this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm Anyone who has a problem accessing here can go to the mirror site: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/

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              His early television work included The Partridge Family, voice work on Wait Till Your Father Gets Home, Marcus Welby MD, Planet of the Apes, Shazam!, ...
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              Pajamas Media » Political Correctness Gone Ape
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              From yesterday's New York Times: The film director Tim Burton yesterday apologized for the closing scene in his 2001 film Planet of the Apes, which imagines a.
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              Group: pota Message: 51939 From: James Date: 2/27/2009
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              Cute Tim. Take a look at this: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index..htmlvideoId=219507&title=felonious-monkeys


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              Subject: Re: question?
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              John Rouche ;-)


              --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, David Ritter <mindwarp19662005@...> wrote:
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              > ok its 10.55 pm my time............. if i were living in the timeline of conquest and i owned a chimp i would name him ri-naldowhat would you name your ape slave?
              >

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              Group: pota Message: 51941 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/27/2009
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                Giamatti is also the biggest Ape fan of the POTA2001 cast and the only one who expressed regret about that film.
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: Alex Ruiz
              Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:21 PM
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

              Agree.
              Paul Giamatti is great.

               

              Al




              From: Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net>
              To: pota@yahoogroups. com
              Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:28:29 PM
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

                That'd be fine with me if Paul Giamatti stars in "Caesar" as the human. He's a good actor.
               
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:53 PM
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

               
              Oh God!  It's Paul "Limbo" Giamatti all over again.
              Only worse!
               
               
              In a message dated 2/26/2009 8:34:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, john@johnroche6. wanadoo.co. uk writes:
              and, as a chimp, Danny
              De Vito


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              Group: pota Message: 51942 From: David Ritter Date: 2/27/2009
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              lol im waiting for one in this group to say george bush lol


              From: James <JamesA1102@...>
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:11:05 AM
              Subject: [pota] Re: question?

              John Rouche ;-)


              --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, David Ritter <mindwarp19662005@ ...> wrote:
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              > ok its 10.55 pm my time........ ..... if i were living in the timeline of conquest and i owned a chimp i would name him ri-naldowhat would you name your ape slave?
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              Group: pota Message: 51943 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 2/27/2009
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                Greetings, everyone.  I found an album from 1975 at a flea market which features music from my two favorite franchises:  Apes & Trek.  Everyone, their brothers, and their second cousins were doing quickie albums of TV themes back in the seventies, but this is the first time I've seen one with music based on the Apes TV series (besides the original Schifrin score, of course).  I thought it was pretty interesting, so I thought I would share the covers with you all.  Enjoy!
                 
                Jeff (RedSpy)


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                Group: pota Message: 51944 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/27/2009
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                I'd like to see Paul Giamatti in a future apes film again.

                Human or Ape it makes no differenrce.

                 


                Al


                From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
                To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:10:32 AM
                Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

                  Giamatti is also the biggest Ape fan of the POTA2001 cast and the only one who expressed regret about that film.
                 
                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Alex Ruiz
                Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:21 PM
                Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

                Agree.
                Paul Giamatti is great.

                 

                Al




                From: Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net>
                To: pota@yahoogroups.. com
                Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:28:29 PM
                Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

                  That'd be fine with me if Paul Giamatti stars in "Caesar" as the human. He's a good actor.
                 
                ----- Original Message -----
                Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:53 PM
                Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

                 
                Oh God!  It's Paul "Limbo" Giamatti all over again.
                Only worse!
                 
                 
                In a message dated 2/26/2009 8:34:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, john@johnroche6. wanadoo.co. uk writes:
                and, as a chimp, Danny
                De Vito


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                Group: pota Message: 51945 From: Jeff Date: 2/27/2009
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                I still have mine from the original release.  But, I don't have a record player anymore.
                 
                Jeff B
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                Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:11 PM
                Subject: [pota] New Music

                Greetings, everyone.  I found an album from 1975 at a flea market which features music from my two favorite franchises:  Apes & Trek.  Everyone, their brothers, and their second cousins were doing quickie albums of TV themes back in the seventies, but this is the first time I've seen one with music based on the Apes TV series (besides the original Schifrin score, of course).  I thought it was pretty interesting, so I thought I would share the covers with you all.  Enjoy!
                 
                Jeff (RedSpy)


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                Group: pota Message: 51946 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/27/2009
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                that's pretty funnny! and actually interesting that it passed,,,,wonder if they used the words..."or apes" in the legislation tho! silly humans....


                From: James <JamesA1102@...>
                To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:09:26 AM
                Subject: [pota] Re: next step....talking!!!

                Cute Tim. Take a look at this: http://www.thedaily show.com/ video/index. .htmlvideoId= 219507&title=felonious- monkeys


                --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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                > http://cosmos. bcst.yahoo. com/up/player/ popup/?rn= 3906861&cl=12226918&ch=4226726&src=news
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                Group: pota Message: 51947 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/27/2009
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                In fact, he told me personally that he was disappointed and blamed it mostly on the script!


                From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
                To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:10:32 AM
                Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

                Giamatti is also the biggest Ape fan of the POTA2001 cast and the only one who expressed regret about that film.
                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Alex Ruiz
                Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:21 PM
                Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

                Agree.
                Paul Giamatti is great.

                Al




                From: Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net>
                To: pota@yahoogroups. com
                Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:28:29 PM
                Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

                That'd be fine with me if Paul Giamatti stars in "Caesar" as the human. He's a good actor.
                ----- Original Message -----
                Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:53 PM
                Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Peter Chernin leaving Fox

                Oh God! It's Paul "Limbo" Giamatti all over again.
                Only worse!
                In a message dated 2/26/2009 8:34:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, john@johnroche6. wanadoo.co. uk writes:
                and, as a chimp, Danny
                De Vito


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                Group: pota Message: 51948 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 2/27/2009
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                I know what you mean, Jeff.  I ripped mine to a CD so I can listen to it any time with no hassles.  Now I can put the LP in a safe storage place so it won't get damaged or scratched.
                 
                Jeff (RedSpy)
                 
                In a message dated 2/27/2009 7:37:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, skintricks@... writes:

                I still have mine from the original release.  But, I don't have a record player anymore.
                 
                Jeff B
                ----- Original Message -----
                Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:11 PM
                Subject: [pota] New Music

                Greetings, everyone.  I found an album from 1975 at a flea market which features music from my two favorite franchises:  Apes & Trek.  Everyone, their brothers, and their second cousins were doing quickie albums of TV themes back in the seventies, but this is the first time I've seen one with music based on the Apes TV series (besides the original Schifrin score, of course).  I thought it was pretty interesting, so I thought I would share the covers with you all.  Enjoy!
                 
                Jeff (RedSpy)


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                Group: pota Message: 51949 From: Jeff Date: 2/27/2009
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                  I don't remember who or when the discussion was about POTA crossovers, but this is a natural (time travel)
                   
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                  Group: pota Message: 51950 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/28/2009
                  Subject: Re: New Music
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                  Seem like the only reason anyone buys
                  record players  anymore is to convert their
                  records into MP3s.
                   
                   
                  In a message dated 2/27/2009 6:37:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, skintricks@... writes:
                  But, I don't have a record player anymore.


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                  Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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                  FYI

                   

                  Google News Alert for: "planet of the apes"

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                  Top 10 Simpsons moments
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                  CHUCK'S USED CARDS: Collecting Oscar Winners on Modern Cards
                  By Chuck's Used Cards
                  For many autograph collectors, there is a challenging (and expensive) array of Oscar Winners on various autograph cards. some are less flattering such as Charlton Heston in the remake of Planet of The Apes. ....
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                  when is evil cool?: 5 movies i rented when i was a kid because the ...
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                  BATTLE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES. The box pretty much speaks for itself. I mean look at that thing. It's practically screaming "Hey kid! You better just rent me and get it over with!" An ape man is about to press slam a soldier into the ...
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                  Hello,

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                  Group: pota Message: 51955 From: zasco1957 Date: 2/28/2009
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                    I can't blame you.  I've put a couple of the Power Records adaptations onto a CD so that the originals won't get scratched.
                     
                    Zach  
                     
                    -------Original Message-------
                     
                    Date: 2/27/2009 7:46:02 PM
                    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: Re: [pota] New Music
                     

                    I know what you mean, Jeff.  I ripped mine to a CD so I can listen to it any time with no hassles.  Now I can put the LP in a safe storage place so it won't get damaged or scratched.
                     
                    Jeff (RedSpy)
                     
                    In a message dated 2/27/2009 7:37:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, skintricks@cox. net writes:

                    I still have mine from the original release.  But, I don't have a record player anymore.
                     
                    Jeff B
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:11 PM
                    Subject: [pota] New Music

                    Greetings, everyone.  I found an album from 1975 at a flea market which features music from my two favorite franchises:  Apes & Trek.  Everyone, their brothers, and their second cousins were doing quickie albums of TV themes back in the seventies, but this is the first time I've seen one with music based on the Apes TV series (besides the original Schifrin score, of course).  I thought it was pretty interesting, so I thought I would share the covers with you all.  Enjoy!
                     
                    Jeff (RedSpy)


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                    Group: pota Message: 51956 From: Dave B Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Early Drafts
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                    I found it interesting that in one of Dehn's early treatments for
                    'Beneath' the date on Brent's chronometer is 3975.

                    Okay, it's not 3978 but it's much easier to swallow.

                    Speaking of which... in that same treatment Brent's ship lands INTACT
                    allowing him the possibility to escape at the climax (which he doesn't
                    take).

                    Again, that would have made the whole Milo/ship thing make more sense.

                    Maybe Dehn was paying more attention than we give him credit for?

                    Dave
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                    Group: pota Message: 51957 From: John B Kirtley Date: 3/1/2009
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                    Read an interview with Dehn recently and he did intend Ceaser to communicate telepathically
                    with the apes in Conquest which explains a lot in the film
                    John
                     

                    From: Dave B
                    Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 9:35 AM
                    Subject: [pota] Early Drafts

                    I found it interesting that in one of Dehn's early treatments for
                    'Beneath' the date on Brent's chronometer is 3975.

                    Okay, it's not 3978 but it's much easier to swallow.

                    Speaking of which... in that same treatment Brent's ship lands INTACT
                    allowing him the possibility to escape at the climax (which he doesn't
                    take).

                    Again, that would have made the whole Milo/ship thing make more sense.

                    Maybe Dehn was paying more attention than we give him credit for?

                    Dave

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                    Group: pota Message: 51958 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Wondercon 2009
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                    I didn't take that very many photos, but a lot of photos were taken of me. It took 3 hours to glue everything down, two hours to remove almost everything. Went to bed exhausted at 1:30 AM. Have a cold now, and a b-day party later for my son. I'm sooo tired. I was a bit rushed puttingon the makeup/hair because I slept through my alarm. I got an honorable mention at the costume contest, though!
                    I met Don Pedro Colley. He was such a nice person. I gave him a big hug and didn't want to let go. He was as soft as a big fluffy pillow.
                    Jess.
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                    Group: pota Message: 51959 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: FW: Google Alert - planet of the apes
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                    Google News Alert for: planet of the apes

                    Dothan Eagle

                    We’re not monkeying around
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                    The Bronze Age Of Blogs: Terror On The Planet Of The Apes
                    By pete doree
                    Along with adapting the movies into comic form, Planet Of The Apes also ran some great original serial's, courtesy of the fevered mind of Doug Moench. Copyright not being as stringent back then as it is these days, Moench was pretty ...
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                    Saturday Morning: 1975 - VIDEOS - TV Squad
                    By Richard Keller
                    DePatie-Freleng's Return to the Planet of the Apes was an animated sequel to the Planet of the Apes series that featured another set of lost astronauts trying to get off of the future Earth run by damn, dirty apes. ...
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                    Group: pota Message: 51960 From: scott bosco Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Wondercon 2009
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                    Jess,
                    You look so cute.  I can see you "in there" just peeking out.  Great job!
                    What a great pic of you hugging Don Pedro Colley!  He really looks like you hugging the stuffin out of him.  Great memory.
                    Hope to see more pics.
                    Thanks for sharing.
                    - Scott B.

                    --- On Sun, 3/1/09, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
                    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
                    Subject: [pota] Wondercon 2009
                    To: "POTA" <pota@yahoogroups.com>, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 2:14 PM

                    I didn't take that very many photos, but a lot of photos were taken of me.  It took 3 hours to glue everything down, two hours to remove almost everything.  Went to bed exhausted at 1:30 AM.  Have a cold now, and a b-day party later for my son.  I'm sooo tired.  I was a bit rushed puttingon the makeup/hair because I slept through my alarm.  I got an honorable mention at the costume contest, though! 
                     
                    I met Don Pedro Colley.  He was such a nice person.  I gave him a big hug and didn't want to let go.  He was as soft as a big fluffy pillow. 
                     
                     
                    Jess.

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                    Group: pota Message: 51961 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/1/2009
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                    Wow! That was great, Jessica. What did Don Pedro have to say to you?
                    That one photo of you hugging him is funny.

                    Anyone at Wondercon know that Fox is planning a new APES movie, and
                    what did they think?

                    -- Rory

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
                    To: POTA <pota@yahoogroups.com>; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 2:14 pm
                    Subject: [pota] Wondercon 2009



                    I didn't take that very many photos, but a lot of photos were taken of
                    me. It took 3 hours to glue everything down, two hours to remove
                    almost everything. Went to bed exhausted at 1:30 AM. Have a cold now,
                    and a b-day party later for my son. I'm sooo tired. I was a bit
                    rushed puttingon the makeup/hair because I slept through my alarm. I
                    got an honorable mention at the costume contest, though!


                    I met Don Pedro Colley. He was such a nice person. I gave him a big
                    hug and didn't want to let go. He was as soft as a big fluffy pillow.

                    http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_5844.jpg
                    http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_5834.jpg
                    http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_5835.jpg

                    Jess.
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                    Group: pota Message: 51962 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Early Drafts
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                    "Maybe Dehn was paying more attention than we give him credit for?

                    Dave"

                    Actually, I'm convinced that the main reason BENEATH is such a mess is
                    that Mort Abrahams monkeying around with it too much.

                    You want to blame anyone for BENEATH, blame Mort. Is it only
                    coincidence that he was gone from Apjac after that?

                    -- Rory
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                    Group: pota Message: 51963 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Blu-ray PLANET audio
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                    I need to do some revising of my impressions of the audio on the
                    Blu-ray DVD for PLANET. Up until a few days ago I'd been listening to
                    it in surround, but from a processor that was made before the
                    introduction of DTS HD. So, even though the processor could decode
                    DTS, I wasn't sure it was doing what it should, especially since I was
                    hearing a soundtrack for PLANET that was basically mono. This wasn't
                    the case with the sequel Blu-rays.

                    But I recently bought a new Panasonic plasma TV and it must have the
                    circuitry to properly decode DTS HD from Blu-ray, because hooked up
                    through the HDMI cable from the Blu-ray disc player, I'm hearing great
                    stereo sound from PLANET -- and this is just from the speakers on the
                    plasma.

                    I realize now that I'm going to have to get a new A/V receiver that has
                    the DTS and Dolby Digital True HD logos on it to listen to these discs
                    properly, however they sound so great just through my plasma I'm not in
                    any rush to spend more money.

                    Alex, I'm wondering now if your audio equipment is made to properly
                    decode DTS and DD True HD Master Audio? Because you also thought the
                    stereo surround on PLANET wasn't as good as that for the sequel Blu-ray
                    discs. What the story is with the sequel discs I don't know.

                    -- Rory
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                    Group: pota Message: 51964 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Early Drafts
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                    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I found it interesting that in one of Dehn's early treatments for
                    > 'Beneath' the date on Brent's chronometer is 3975.
                    >
                    > Okay, it's not 3978 but it's much easier to swallow.

                    Which brings up the question why was it changed to 3955 in the later versions of the script. Someone had to change it for a reason.


                    >
                    > Speaking of which... in that same treatment Brent's ship lands INTACT
                    > allowing him the possibility to escape at the climax (which he doesn't
                    > take).

                    >
                    > Again, that would have made the whole Milo/ship thing make more sense.
                    >

                    I have always felt that Taylor's ship had the capability of being relaunched. When it sinks he says "OK We're here to stay" which infers that if the ship had not sunk they would have the option of leaving.



                    >
                    > Maybe Dehn was paying more attention than we give him credit for?
                    >
                    > Dave
                    >

                    I've always felt that Dehn has not gotten enough credit or respect from fans. Sure there are discrepencies but there are in all series. But back then they didn't have people assigned to check continuity like they do today. And even with those people there are still big discrepencies in franchised like Star Wars and Star Trek. And remember Dehn was writing each film as if it would be the last in an age before home video. I don't think he envisioned fans being able to run the films back over and over again checking over every detail.

                    I also think Dehn suffers in comparison to Serling & Wilson. The screenplay for Planet is a masterpiece. But it took them years of revisions to get to that while Dehn had to churn out his screenplays fairly quickly for each sequel.

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                    Group: pota Message: 51965 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
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                    Please tell us more. What exactly did Dehn say and where did you read this interview?


                    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John B Kirtley" <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Read an interview with Dehn recently and he did intend Ceaser to communicate telepathically
                    > with the apes in Conquest which explains a lot in the film
                    > John
                    >
                    >
                    >

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                    Group: pota Message: 51966 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Wondercon 2009
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                    Wow Jessica! You look great! Luv the pic of you and Don Pedro.

                    When you get a chance please fill us in some more. Thanks.


                    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I didn't take that very many photos, but a lot of photos were taken of me.
                    > It took 3 hours to glue everything down, two hours to remove almost
                    > everything. Went to bed exhausted at 1:30 AM. Have a cold now, and a b-day
                    > party later for my son. I'm sooo tired. I was a bit rushed puttingon the
                    > makeup/hair because I slept through my alarm. I got an honorable mention at
                    > the costume contest, though!
                    >
                    > I met Don Pedro Colley. He was such a nice person. I gave him a big hug
                    > and didn't want to let go. He was as soft as a big fluffy pillow.
                    >
                    > http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_5844.jpg
                    > http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_5834.jpg
                    > http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_5835.jpg
                    >
                    > Jess.
                    >

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                    Group: pota Message: 51967 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Wondercon 2009
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                    good to see apes and mutants getting along!
                    excellent pics Jess!


                    From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
                    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 5:00:25 PM
                    Subject: [pota] Re: Wondercon 2009

                    Wow! That was great, Jessica. What did Don Pedro have to say to you?
                    That one photo of you hugging him is funny.

                    Anyone at Wondercon know that Fox is planning a new APES movie, and
                    what did they think?

                    -- Rory

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
                    To: POTA <pota@yahoogroups. com>; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                    Sent: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 2:14 pm
                    Subject: [pota] Wondercon 2009

                    I didn't take that very many photos, but a lot of photos were taken of
                    me.  It took 3 hours to glue everything down, two hours to remove
                    almost everything.  Went to bed exhausted at 1:30 AM.  Have a cold now,
                    and a b-day party later for my son.  I'm sooo tired.  I was a bit
                    rushed puttingon the makeup/hair because I slept through my alarm.  I
                    got an honorable mention at the costume contest, though! 

                     
                    I met Don Pedro Colley.  He was such a nice person.  I gave him a big
                    hug and didn't want to let go.  He was as soft as a big fluffy pillow. 
                     
                    http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/IMG_ 5844.jpg
                    http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/IMG_ 5834.jpg
                    http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/IMG_ 5835.jpg
                     
                    Jess.


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                    Group: pota Message: 51968 From: scott bosco Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Early Drafts
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                    I don't know since I never read any of the previous drafts but - if Dehn wrote the previous draft of BENEATH which had a half human/ape child...
                    ...then perhaps he was working up to something with Caesar having some telepathic powers.  Seems nature (?) was somehow working a meeting of the two species.  Humans were looking more ape-like and apes with mutant telepathic abilities.  This would have created both a unity and higher reason for both living together - becoming one race.  One that could destroy each other with thought forcing both to live together.
                    It would have been very ironic that both species would evolve into one initiated by mutation via the bombs that destroyed the world.
                    After all, it's pure sci-fi.
                    - Scott B.

                    --- On Sun, 3/1/09, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                    From: James <JamesA1102@...>
                    Subject: [pota] Re: Early Drafts
                    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 6:00 PM


                    --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@ ...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I found it interesting that in one of Dehn's early treatments for
                    > 'Beneath' the date on Brent's chronometer is 3975.
                    >
                    > Okay, it's not 3978 but it's much easier to swallow.
                    Which brings up the question why was it changed to 3955 in the later versions of the script. Someone had to change it for a reason.

                    >
                    > Speaking of which... in that same treatment Brent's ship lands INTACT
                    > allowing him the possibility to escape at the climax (which he doesn't
                    > take).
                    >
                    > Again, that would have made the whole Milo/ship thing make more sense.
                    >
                    I have always felt that Taylor's ship had the capability of being relaunched. When it sinks he says "OK We're here to stay" which infers that if the ship had not sunk they would have the option of leaving.


                    >
                    > Maybe Dehn was paying more attention than we give him credit for?
                    >
                    > Dave
                    >
                    I've always felt that Dehn has not gotten enough credit or respect from fans. Sure there are discrepencies but there are in all series. But back then they didn't have people assigned to check continuity like they do today. And even with those people there are still big discrepencies in franchised like Star Wars and Star Trek. And remember Dehn was writing each film as if it would be the last in an age before home video. I don't think he envisioned fans being able to run the films back over and over again checking over every detail.
                    I also think Dehn suffers in comparison to Serling & Wilson. The screenplay for Planet is a masterpiece. But it took them years of revisions to get to that while Dehn had to churn out his screenplays fairly quickly for each sequel.

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                    Group: pota Message: 51969 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Early Drafts
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                    The script for 'Planet of the Apes Revisted' (Dehn's first draft which is on Hunter's site: https://pota.goatley.com/scripts/pota_revisited_first_01.pdf) is far superior to the final shooting script. From every account that I've read about the filming of Beneath, Mort Abrahams was the problem. I think it was Ted Post who said that Mort had some of the worst most hackneyed ideas he had ever heard.


                    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
                    >
                    >
                    > Actually, I'm convinced that the main reason BENEATH is such a mess is
                    > that Mort Abrahams monkeying around with it too much.
                    >
                    > You want to blame anyone for BENEATH, blame Mort. Is it only
                    > coincidence that he was gone from Apjac after that?
                    >
                    > -- Rory
                    >

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                    Group: pota Message: 51970 From: scott bosco Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Blu-ray PLANET audio
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                    Rory,
                    The sound for PLANET sucks.  It's botched, plain and simple.  I have a new decoder, and Integra and it sound terrible.  FOX screwed up and used the wrong mix on the English soundtrack.  Just listen to the French in 5.1.  The mix is completely different, and better.  There is more steering amongst the front 3 channels, and even surround.  There is no surround to speak of in the English mix.  It's terrible.  The French mix is more akin to sound the way it was mix in the 60's.  The original 4-track mix of PLANET was long lost by FOX.  The new 5.1 is re-worked mono.  No company would actually go back to the original stems of separate dialog, music and sound effects and make such a boring 5.1 mix.  FOX must have simply put it through a "box" that spread out the soundtrack - which is why it is terrible.  This has become a common practice among the studios as with UNIVERSAL with XANADU, FLASH GORDON and even PARAMOUNT with STAR TREK II AND III.  There's a nasty frame of mind that is about causing original Dolby Surround (2.0) mixes are good enough so they are pumping the sound into a fake spreader that confirms it to 5.1, but in a fake way.
                    What you are hearing is better than 5.1 because it's negated to only 2 channels.  Just listen to the French and you'll hear a bigger difference.  I don't know why FOX just didn't overlay the music and effect track from the French mix to the English one - unless someone just screwed up.  ...which wouldn't surprise me.
                    - Scott

                    --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:
                    From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
                    Subject: [pota] Blu-ray PLANET audio
                    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 5:35 PM

                    I need to do some revising of my impressions of the audio on the
                    Blu-ray DVD for PLANET. Up until a few days ago I'd been listening to
                    it in surround, but from a processor that was made before the
                    introduction of DTS HD. So, even though the processor could decode
                    DTS, I wasn't sure it was doing what it should, especially since I was
                    hearing a soundtrack for PLANET that was basically mono. This wasn't
                    the case with the sequel Blu-rays.

                    But I recently bought a new Panasonic plasma TV and it must have the
                    circuitry to properly decode DTS HD from Blu-ray, because hooked up
                    through the HDMI cable from the Blu-ray disc player, I'm hearing great
                    stereo sound from PLANET -- and this is just from the speakers on the
                    plasma.

                    I realize now that I'm going to have to get a new A/V receiver that has
                    the DTS and Dolby Digital True HD logos on it to listen to these discs
                    properly, however they sound so great just through my plasma I'm not in
                    any rush to spend more money.

                    Alex, I'm wondering now if your audio equipment is made to properly
                    decode DTS and DD True HD Master Audio? Because you also thought the
                    stereo surround on PLANET wasn't as good as that for the sequel Blu-ray
                    discs. What the story is with the sequel discs I don't know.

                    -- Rory


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                    Group: pota Message: 51971 From: James Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Early Drafts
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                    Treatments and early versions of some of the scripts are on Hunter's site: https://pota.goatley.com/scripts.html". Very interesting to read how the some of the ideas for the films started out.

                    I believe the half ape/half human child was for the Beneath's original ending which took place about 100 years after the events of the rest of the films. And since all the mutants were killed I don't think the child was supposed to have telepathic powers, so I would tend to think the whole Caeser thing is unrelated.

                    One interesting thing about the first draft of Beneath's script is that there a little more background to Brent's character such as his full name being John Christopher Brent. And that he was orphaned as a child to be raised by his maternal Grandmother.

                    It also says that he grew-up in New York City.  That gives more resonance to his statement in the subway station, "This use to be my home. I lived here, worked here". So he is not making some general statement about Earth, he is literally talking about New York.

                    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I don't know since I never read any of the previous drafts but - if Dehn wrote the previous draft of BENEATH which had a half human/ape child...
                    > ...then perhaps he was working up to something with Caesar having some telepathic powers.  Seems nature (?) was somehow working a meeting of the two species.  Humans were looking more ape-like and apes with mutant telepathic abilities.  This would have created both a unity and higher reason for both living together - becoming one race.  One that could destroy each other with thought forcing both to live together.
                    > It would have been very ironic that both species would evolve into one initiated by mutation via the bombs that destroyed the world.
                    > After all, it's pure sci-fi.
                    > - Scott B.
                    >

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                    Group: pota Message: 51972 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Bloopers
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                    You mean his open mouth when he says "Now fight like Apes!!"?
                     
                    Chris L.
                     
                     
                     
                    "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
                     
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                    A somewhat unfortunate choice of image to use in such a prominent
                    position! <<
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                    Group: pota Message: 51973 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Bloopers
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                    What's the blooper with 'capes3a'?
                     
                    Chris L.
                     
                     
                     
                    "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                     
                    >>All these pics have been uploaded to the group's Photos
                    section:
                    http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/spnew
                    <http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/spnew>

                    Thanks to Tim and Jeff for sharing. <<
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                    Group: pota Message: 51974 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: U-matic tape OT
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                    That was probably just a cue from the script, however whoever set up the archive section could have decided on Reel-to Reel because they don't take up as much space as a U-matic tape.
                     
                    And isn't the cassette in Conquest a microcassette that has video images? Seems to me that would have been seen as futuristic as that technology wasn't available back in 1972. Of course, REVOLUTION retconned the whole thing and worked the internet and cells phones into the story. That always bothered me, because neither were widely available back in 1991.
                     
                     
                    Chris L.
                     
                     
                     
                    "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
                     
                    >>One thing that always bothered me about Battle is that they used
                    reel to
                    reel tapes instead of U-matic. Even in Conquest they are using cassette
                    tapes. Seems like a backward step in technology. <<<.html

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                    Group: pota Message: 51975 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Conquest on Fox Movie Channel
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                    One thing I neglected to mention when I was writing my lengthy posts about the Thanksgiving weekend marathon (and the CONQUEST director's cut in particular) was that I loved how Breck didn't cower at the end when he was staring up at the gorillas with their rifles upraised. His facial expression said "Go ahead. Do it.". Almost challenging them in a way to go through with it.
                     
                    A true antagonist, right until the end.
                     
                     
                    Chris L.
                     
                     
                     
                    "Lynne Miller" <cosmicraye1998@...> wrote: 
                     
                    >>Just thought I jot a note after seeing CONQUEST today. I feel like
                    a
                    POTA newbie...I have never seen the uncut version or the ending that
                    didn't have the..'But now..' added onto it, or the
                    killing..ahem ..smearing of Break! Awesome!! <<<.html

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                    Group: pota Message: 51976 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: Valentine
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                    Link please...
                     
                    Chris L.
                     
                     
                     
                    "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
                     
                    >>Found this at the Hallmark store.....
                    When you open it it plays Goldsmith music.....

                    the quote is inside but the pic of Icarus is from the back! <<<.html

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                    Group: pota Message: 51977 From: Chris Lawless Date: 3/1/2009
                    Subject: Re: David Watson - Beneath's Cornelius
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                    Actually the whole thing is run at a loss, but since it's owned by the Unification Church it can be written off. More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostalgia_channel
                     
                    Chris L.
                     
                     
                     
                    "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
                     
                    >>That's funny 'cuz my son asked me if the play more than 3 different
                    commercials on that station. <<
                     
                     
                    I wrote:
                     
                    >>OK James, that's TWO people who watch that station now. :-) Have
                    you ordered the Point 'n Paint or the Grabit yet?

                    BTW, which Irwin Allen show did the BENEATH tunnel show up in again? <<


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                    >>For
                    those who may be interested in seeing David Watson without Ape
                    make-up, he'll be on tonight's episode of 'The Time Tunnel' (playing
                    Rudyard Kipling) on the American Life Network at 9PM EST. <<<.html

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