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That's all very nice and informative but we were talking about the POTA soundtracks not various others.
Do you have the sales figures on the Apes soundtracks, especially the limited edition ones?

Neil T. Foster

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Steven W Hill" <shill66@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Neil...
>
> The film music fan community is huge (POTA fandom is small in comparison).
> Naturally, everyone has their own favorite scores and composers, but
> Goldsmith is one of the upper echelon of composers. I doubt any POTA fan
> would disagree with that! But these next few facts may surprise you, and
> will probably be disbelieved entirely by someone else on this list.
>
> The Intrada label, who released the POTA television soundtrack, have in the
> past year released other Jerry Goldsmith scores, three of which I will share
> as examples.
>
> On 22 September 2008, they released Jerry Goldsmith's THE BOYS FROM BRAZIL.
> It was a 2-CD set priced at $29.99, and limited to 5,000 copies (not the
> usual 3,000). The title sold out completely in exactly 10 months, all 5,000
> copies. That's somewhat impressive, considering it was an expensive 2-CD
> set, but notably, the first 3,000 copies sold in about 24 hours.
>
> On 14 April 2009, they released Jerry Goldsmith's ONE LITTLE INDIAN. ("What
> movie's that?" I hear most of you say. Which is part of my point...) One
> disc, $19.99, limited to 3,000 copies. In three days, there were 300 copies
> remaining. The title sold out completely in 9 days.
>
> And the best for last.
> On 9 April 2008, they released Jerry Goldsmith's BABY: SECRET OF THE LOST
> LEGEND. One disc, $19.99, limited to 3,000 copies. This one was completely
> sold out in under 24 hours. And you'd better believe this movie is nowhere
> near as popular as PLANET OF THE APES, or probably even ESCAPE FROM THE
> PLANET OF THE APES!
>
> I hope these examples might open your eyes to the unpredictable and often
> surprising market of limited edition film score CDs. And Intrada's not the
> only label that release these... Varese Sarabande, of course, is another,
> and there's Film Score Monthly (FSM), Kritzerland, and La-La Land, too.
> Importantly, these labels are direct marketers, their CDs were only rarely
> sold in stores or other online retailers outside the soundtrack specialty
> retailers.
>
> It's impossible to predict how fast ESCAPE will sell out. Some Varese
> Sarabande club titles have easily sold out even before their shipping dates,
> while others are still available now, long after their release. They might
> announce that ESCAPE is sold out tomorrow, or next week, or next month, or
> not until 2012. Who knows. Sales will most likely be negatively affected by
> the ESCAPE suite that appeared on Varese's POTA soundtrack, as well as
> ESCAPE bootlegs that have been available, and of course the isolated score
> on the Blu-ray disc, so I'm going to guess it won't sell out that quickly,
> but then again I've just demonstrated how unpredictable the market can be!
>
> -S
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
> Foster
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:20 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [pota] Escape Soundtrack finally released!
>
> How long did it take for the past releases to sell out (and have they all)?
> At 3000 copies each and with all those Goldsmith / soundtrack etc. fans out
> there you would think they would have been snapped up almost immediately
> wouldn't they?
>
> Neil T. Foster
>

Yes, for many years that was the only way that I had the extended cut of "Battle" because I stayed up until 3:00 AM to tape it!  Then when I got the movie on VHS, I discarded the tape and wondered for years if I had imagined the whole bomb sequence, now with the miracle of DVDs I know that I did not! --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote: From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> Subject: Re: [pota] planet soundtrack To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 8:13 PM     That was the golden age of the soundtrack, before there was home video. Like taping movies off TV with a cassette recorder. I could see listening to soundtracks back then when that was all there was. They even used to have dialogue from the movies on them.   ----- Original Message ----- From: William Burge To: pota@yahoogroups. com Cc: billburge48@ yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: [pota] planet soundtrack   dear group,  i remember running down to the local globe shopping city in the summer of 1968 . this was after seeing the movie planet at the loews sharpstown drive in theatre . my way of thinking was to buy the soundtrack lp the ad in the local paper said it cost four dollars and 44 cents . my favorite part of the soundtrack was called the search . at the time i was 12 years old . what a time to be a kid . great summer memories in houston texas. from william burge

I've been collecting and LISTENING to film soundtracks since 13 My first was my brother's LP of PLANET OF THE APES. I like it so much he gave it to me - I still have it, original issue from 67' My brother also had the soundtracks on LP to 633 SQUADRON, ZULU, DARK OF THE SUN, and THE BLUE MAX
My first actual LP soundtracks were gifts, 2001 and DR. ZHIVAGO

If I had to give a percentage I'd say soundtracks are 90% of what I listen to. Followed by Classical, New Age, and a small selection of "regular" pop/rock/country/western
The reason for this is that orchestral, to me, is has more ground over songs with lyrics. Hearing the same words sung over and over is boring while orchestral pieces have more complex layering that can been enjoyed concentrating on those different aspects.
I prefer the CD of a soundtrack over isolated score on DVDs/Blu-ray for quick choice listen options - who wants to wait for the next piece with spans of silence until the next cue is heard.
The reason why there are so many limited produced Soundtracks release has more to do with legal issues and percentages in terms of royalties rather than the questionable popularity of a given film. I spoke to a producer of some of these releases and he told when under a certain amount is in produced the rights and royalties come under the radar making it possible.
If soundtracks weren't a viable retail product there wouldn't be whole sections in stores. I think it has more to do with a certain class of people who are attracted to this medium - which would explain why Soundtrack section are smaller in a place like Best Buy over a place like Barnes & Noble.
But yes, Virgina, there are people who actually "listen" to Soundtracks.
- Scott B.

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...> wrote:


From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
Subject: RE: [pota] RE: Escape Soundtrack finally released!
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 5:05 PM


Yeah I know you have Rory – how many others do the same is my question (and my confirmed suspicion is "not many").

I am not belittling you for this, or anyone, just asking a question.

The responses have been overall that MOST people would rarely listen to the soundtrack and – particularly now they have the Blu-Ray – they would much rather watch the movie.

The other relevant, interesting thing that's developed is that "a lot" (sic) of people also do POTA related creative stuff listening to the CDs.

Then of course there's one guy trying to make it all personal but I'm not even sure he's a real person so…you know….whatever!

-M

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I still have my tape recorded editions of the APE film on CBS, not to mention the original TV Series airings. - Scott B.   --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote: From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> Subject: Re: [pota] planet soundtrack To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 8:13 PM     That was the golden age of the soundtrack, before there was home video. Like taping movies off TV with a cassette recorder. I could see listening to soundtracks back then when that was all there was. They even used to have dialogue from the movies on them.   ----- Original Message ----- From: William Burge To: pota@yahoogroups. com Cc: billburge48@ yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: [pota] planet soundtrack   dear group,  i remember running down to the local globe shopping city in the summer of 1968 . this was after seeing the movie planet at the loews sharpstown drive in theatre . my way of thinking was to buy the soundtrack lp the ad in the local paper said it cost four dollars and 44 cents . my favorite part of the soundtrack was called the search . at the time i was 12 years old . what a time to be a kid . great summer memories in houston texas. from william burge

Bravo John! - Scott B. --- On Thu, 10/1/09, shanter2002 <john@...> wrote: From: shanter2002 <john@...> Subject: [pota] Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released! To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 5:47 AM   I listen to the Apes scores a lot---whether in the car on long journeys or in the background as mood music in work.The Apes scores have a life all their own and the series, including the tv series, incidentally, was just blessed with the very, very best composers in the industry.There are bits in the scores that really repay being listened to in isolation and if you compare Apes 1968 to Apes 2001 you have, in a microcosm, an example of why society is declining.John, Scrolls. > > "Gotta ask â€" how many POTA fans are THAT dedicated they put on the > soundtrack CD? > > I’ll but it, but buggered if I’d bother PLAYING it!" > > Are you talking about the original Jerry Goldsmith score to PLANET? > > I've been listening to that score since I was eight years old. I've > listened to it hundreds of times and can listen to it almost anytime. > I don't play it as often as I used to, but every few months I put it > on. Next best thing to watching the movie. > > -- Rory > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@.. .> > To: pota@yahoogroups. com; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 5:40 pm > Subject: RE: [pota] Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released! > > Gotta ask â€" how many POTA fans are THAT > dedicated they put on the soundtrack CD? > > > I’ll but it, but buggered if I’d bother > PLAYING it! > > > Well, maybe ONCE… > > > What images go through peoples’ heads when > they DO plat the soundtrack? > > > Michael >

Almost a year later and FOX is still milking the same prepared stuff - oh, golly, just like their DVD/Blu-ray releases.  Does this mean for the next 10 years they'll be offering the same Apemania stuff as well? Hopefull the Apemania people contracted that their children will get money from future airings knowing how FOX has learned to milk the APES. Jumbo shrimp and FOX ORIGINAL PROGRAMING two terms that don't make sense. - Scott B. --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote: From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> Subject: [pota] Channel of the Apes To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 8:09 AM   Channel of the Apes is up at:   http://www.foxmovie channel.com/ programming.. php?catid= 52   Al

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I used to do that as well...

Mark.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> That was the golden age of the soundtrack, before there was home video. Like taping movies off TV with a cassette recorder. I could see listening to soundtracks back then when that was all there was. They even used to have dialogue from the movies on them.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: William Burge
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: billburge48@...
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:37 PM
> Subject: [pota] planet soundtrack
>
>
> dear group, i remember running down to the local globe shopping city in the summer of 1968 . this was after seeing the movie planet at the loews sharpstown drive in theatre . my way of thinking was to buy the soundtrack lp the ad in the local paper said it cost four dollars and 44 cents . my favorite part of the soundtrack was called the search . at the time i was 12 years old . what a time to be a kid . great summer memories in houston texas. from william burge
>

I used to use my 8mm movie camera and film them ...and then listen to my power records...sighs...the days...

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:09 AM, sparkytb2005 <sparkytb@...> wrote:

I used to do that as well...

Mark.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> That was the golden age of the soundtrack, before there was home video. Like taping movies off TV with a cassette recorder. I could see listening to soundtracks back then when that was all there was. They even used to have dialogue from the movies on them.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: William Burge
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com

> Cc: billburge48@...
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:37 PM
> Subject: [pota] planet soundtrack
>
>
> dear group, i remember running down to the local globe shopping city in the summer of 1968 . this was after seeing the movie planet at the loews sharpstown drive in theatre . my way of thinking was to buy the soundtrack lp the ad in the local paper said it cost four dollars and 44 cents . my favorite part of the soundtrack was called the search . at the time i was 12 years old . what a time to be a kid . great summer memories in houston texas. from william burge
>

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/

I think this all comes down to a matter of personal taste. For the most part I don't care for Country or Rap music, but both have millions of fans who do. Just because I don't enjoy Country or Rap are the millions of fans who do enjoy those types of music wrong? No, of course not. They just have different taste than me.

I like Rock, Jazz, Classical and, yes, soundtracks. Just as I wouldn't tell a Country or Rap fans that they are wrong for liking Country or Rap; I wouldn't want anyone telling me that I was wrong for liking what I like, including soundtracks.

Personally, I think the release of Escape's soundtrack is a good thing for both POTA & Jerry Goldsmith fans. Plus Varese is a successful company that seems to know what it is doing. So instead of bickering about this, we should be celebrating it instead.  

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> I listen to the Apes scores a lot---whether in the car on long journeys or in the background as mood music in work.The Apes scores have a life all their own and the series, including the tv series, incidentally, was just blessed with the very, very best composers in the industry.There are bits in the scores that really repay being listened to in isolation and if you compare Apes 1968 to Apes 2001 you have, in a microcosm, an example of why society is declining.John, Scrolls.

You are correct. My bad!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Hill <shill66@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] RE: Escape Soundtrack finally released!

> The score was nominated for an Academy Award but didn't win. Jerry
> Goldsmith's only Oscar win was for The Omen.
> -S
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dario Sciola <darios@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:30:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] RE: Escape Soundtrack finally released!
>
> When POTA first hit theaters a large part of the success was
> because
> nobody had seen anything like it in terms of costume and makeup.
> It
> was ground breaking realism as much as it was a good story. And
> the
> third component of that success was the sound score. People forget
> that it too was like nothing that had come before it (well as a
> movie
> score anyway). Some people don't appreciate that it won the
> academy
> award for score that year and what an achievement that was.
>
> As a kid, the emphasis for me was the 'look' of the movie. But as
> I
> got older, I quickly learned to appreciate the score just as much.
>
> Dario
>
>
>

Have not decided yet. I was going to put that off until after getting
the TV, but these days some of the higher end TV have dispensed with
the tuner and sound capabilites entirely (think of it as a uber-TV
monitor) and are made for those who will have secondary video receiver
(be it cable or satellite) and also have home theater sound setup. So
if I end up selecting one one those, I have to have a sound setup
ready right away.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: PofTAfan@...
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:22 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Blue-Ray set-up for $60,000.... US :)

>
> What type of soundsystem are you looking at Bose, JVC?? I got a
> Samsung 42in, a Sony
> HD Blu-ray and a Sony 5 disc system and a Bose sound system
>
>
>
> Maybe one day, when I get me a house instead of a townhouse i'm
> staying in right now,
> I like to put my POTA stuff out to display.
>
>
>
>

I play Apes scores every few months or so. I almost exclusively listen
to all my music as background when working at home or on the job. I'm
not the type of person who pulls up a chair and drink and then just
sits and listens to music. I do have a few other filmscores but not
many. The one score music I play quite often is the music of Ennio
Morricone.

I don't even listen to music in the car anymore. I got fed up of the
choice of local radio and am now a dedicated podcast listener for
daily commutes and long trips as well. (Almost exclusive "Comic Geek
Speak" podcast with the occasional CBC "Quirks and Quarks").

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:13 pm
Subject: RE: Escape Soundtrack finally released!

> So Dario you often play the score/s?
>
> -M
>

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On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

I play Apes scores every few months or so. I almost exclusively listen
to all my music as background when working at home or on the job. I'm
not the type of person who pulls up a chair and drink and then just
sits and listens to music. I do have a few other filmscores but not
many. The one score music I play quite often is the music of Ennio
Morricone.

I don't even listen to music in the car anymore. I got fed up of the
choice of local radio and am now a dedicated podcast listener for
daily commutes and long trips as well. (Almost exclusive "Comic Geek
Speak" podcast with the occasional CBC "Quirks and Quarks").

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:13 pm
Subject: RE: Escape Soundtrack finally released!

> So Dario you often play the score/s?
>

> -M
>

--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/

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If you purchased on a card

you should have return &

refund rights.  Of course it

won't cover shipping, but . . .

at least you could get a shot

at a better specimen of gorilla.

 

In a message dated 9/29/2009 5:05:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Read it and weep.

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You should be doing full-sized.

Maybe you can show Apemania

how to finally get Zira done right. 

 

 

In a message dated 9/28/2009 4:25:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

 

Look how fabulous my Cornelius sculpt is on a Sideshow body!  He's still unpainted but I know that he will be fantastic once I put some paint on him.  And...I will probably re-do the outfit sometime down the road...just that I've been a bit busy.  I'll let you guys know when I have successfully made a cast of him for anyone interested.. .but that is sometime down the road...just not now because I've got loads of other things to accomplish.

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Jess.

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They purposely leave holes in

furniture undrilled and conveniently

loose a screw or two you need to

assemble their crappy products to

screw us and inconvenience us.

I say screw them.  I didn't build

their country!  Just try and find

a drinking straw not made in

China.  It's probably laced with

Strontium 90 or whatever else

they think they can get away with. 

 

 

In a message dated 9/29/2009 11:27:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

Jessica, please rethink this and help support the poor little Chinese
children working their fingers to the bone so we can have our plastic
ape crap.

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You're a Kiss fan too?

***SIGH*** I'm in love.

 

T

 

 

In a message dated 9/29/2009 11:59:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

 

Rory, I am so livid with Hot Toys right now.   I just wrote another e-mail to them to express my disgust.

If they do not replace this vest, that means they have no honor.  This means war!!

http://img8. imageshack. us/i/dsc01837kz. jpg/

Jessica.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:22 AM, <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:

 

Can't that be easily fixed with one of those vinyl repair kits and a
hot iron?

You can't expect little Chinese children working for a dollar a day to
get each and every one of those things right, can you?

Jessica, please rethink this and help support the poor little Chinese
children working their fingers to the bone so we can have our plastic
ape crap.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com; POTA <pota@yahoogroups. com>
Cc: Hot Toys Ltd - Customer Service <info@hottoys. com.hk>

Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 3:14 am
Subject: [pota] Hot Toys is very disappointing!

 

Read it and weep.  They will not wrong a right that occurred.  What
type of quality control do they have?  I purchased this to support a
new ape product.  I believed in Hot Toys.  Now, I am just bitterly
disappointed.  Fellow apes, be wary of buying Hot Toys products, when
they cannot honor the standards that you expect.  I will no longer
support any future ape line from Hot Toys.

 

http://sideshowcoll ectors.com/ forums/showpost. php?p=2003242&amp;postcount= 15634
 
Jessica.

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T, I love Apemania's Zira. I think she looks great.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

You should be doing full-sized.

Maybe you can show Apemania

how to finally get Zira done right.

In a message dated 9/28/2009 4:25:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Look how fabulous my Cornelius sculpt is on a Sideshow body! He's still unpainted but I know that he will be fantastic once I put some paint on him. And...I will probably re-do the outfit sometime down the road...just that I've been a bit busy. I'll let you guys know when I have successfully made a cast of him for anyone interested...but that is sometime down the road...just not now because I've got loads of other things to accomplish.

http://img199.imageshack.us/i/dsc00179wt.jpg/
http://img198.imageshack.us/i/dsc00181hw.jpg/

Jess.

Wahooo!! I LOVE apes marathons!! Even though I've seen the apes movies, there's something just so magical when it's on a tv program and not running from my DVD or VCR.

Jess.

They're called action figures, sir, not "dollies".
I only play with them when I undress Zira. She's a very naughty girl and she needs to be punished! If you don't punish her she'll never learn her lesson.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released!



James,



I think people are missing the point. I'm not bickering, I'm discussing (and I've generated about 60 responses for the group - including drawing out 5 or 6 posts from people who usually sit back and let others do all the "discussing").



It's not just the soundtracks, it a whole variety of things.



I also buy the POTA dollies but I don't play with them.



Jess does, Hunter does (well, he opens the box and poses them anyway) but I don't - I just buy them and store them until I have a place for them. I don't say I'm better than them, I just say I don't play with the dollies.



I buy the coloring books and pencils, but I don't join the dots and use the pencils to color them in.



I'll buy the ESCAPE soundtrack but it will get the original obligatory listening to, then it will be far too difficult for me to choose it over the Beatles or the Sex Pistols (or a soundtrack of Pink Floyd the Wall or The Who's Tommy!). Obviously there are those who will play POTA soundtracks over and over again and good for them.



Anyone claiming I am telling people they are wrong if they choose to listen to the soundtracks is putting words in my mouth - I have not said or suggested this.



Nevertheless, I am astounded at the number of people (other than Rory who we all know is a die hard Goldsmith fan) who have said they do listen to POTA soundtracks regularly. More than I originally thought for sure.



I 100% agree the release of ESCAPE is to be celebrated - it also means all the movies are now officially represented on CD.



Michael

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The appliances do.

But they never got the

full sized mannequin

quite right.  The small

buts however look great! 

 

 

In a message dated 10/1/2009 3:38:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

T, I love Apemania's Zira.  I think she looks great.

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On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

The appliances do.

But they never got the

full sized mannequin

quite right. The small

buts however look great!

In a message dated 10/1/2009 3:38:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

T, I love Apemania's Zira. I think she looks great.

Jeff, that's just disrespectful.However, if you get the Daena Hasbro figure from from Burton's Apes, her dress actually peels down and reveals her boobies.My repeated demands to Hasbro for stick on nipple decals , with a choice of brown or pink, have, amazingly, been ignored.What is wrong with these people? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> They're called action figures, sir, not "dollies".
> I only play with them when I undress Zira. She's a very naughty girl and she needs to be punished! If you don't punish her she'll never learn her lesson.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released!
>
>
>
> James,
>
>
>
> I think people are missing the point. I'm not bickering, I'm discussing (and I've generated about 60 responses for the group - including drawing out 5 or 6 posts from people who usually sit back and let others do all the "discussing").
>
>
>
> It's not just the soundtracks, it a whole variety of things.
>
>
>
> I also buy the POTA dollies but I don't play with them.
>
>
>
> Jess does, Hunter does (well, he opens the box and poses them anyway) but I don't - I just buy them and store them until I have a place for them. I don't say I'm better than them, I just say I don't play with the dollies.
>
>
>
> I buy the coloring books and pencils, but I don't join the dots and use the pencils to color them in.
>
>
>
> I'll buy the ESCAPE soundtrack but it will get the original obligatory listening to, then it will be far too difficult for me to choose it over the Beatles or the Sex Pistols (or a soundtrack of Pink Floyd the Wall or The Who's Tommy!). Obviously there are those who will play POTA soundtracks over and over again and good for them.
>
>
>
> Anyone claiming I am telling people they are wrong if they choose to listen to the soundtracks is putting words in my mouth - I have not said or suggested this.
>
>
>
> Nevertheless, I am astounded at the number of people (other than Rory who we all know is a die hard Goldsmith fan) who have said they do listen to POTA soundtracks regularly. More than I originally thought for sure.
>
>
>
> I 100% agree the release of ESCAPE is to be celebrated - it also means all the movies are now officially represented on CD.
>
>
>
> Michael
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <mswhitty@...> wrote:

>>> I was speaking with Ty Templeton recently and he's told me there's something very exciting that people can look forward to in the next issue of SS. I'm so excited about it I have decided if it's the only thing in the magazine it's going to be worth at least twice the cover price.

EVERY new issue of Simian Scrolls has something very exciting that people can look forward to - and EVERY issue is worth at least twice the cover price!

> Can you tell us anything?

I could... but then I'd have to kill you.

Dave

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I disagree. Every issue is worth 3 times the cover price!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "smugster2000" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
>
> EVERY new issue of Simian Scrolls has something very exciting that people can look forward to - and EVERY issue is worth at least twice the cover price!
>
>
> Dave
>

Cute John, but let's all try to keep things a little more PG-13 around here. Thanks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Jeff, that's just disrespectful.However, if you get the Daena Hasbro figure from from Burton's Apes, her dress actually peels down and reveals her boobies.My repeated demands to Hasbro for stick on nipple decals , with a choice of brown or pink, have, amazingly, been ignored.What is wrong with these people? John, Scrolls.
>

MY FAVE MAG! Btw- did I miss a post about when the next issue comes out-DYING for MORE!

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

I disagree. Every issue is worth 3 times the cover price!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "smugster2000" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
>
> EVERY new issue of Simian Scrolls has something very exciting that people can look forward to - and EVERY issue is worth at least twice the cover price!
>
>
> Dave
>

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From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 3:00 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released!

 

Jeff,

Is punishing Zira anything like spanking your monkey?

Michael

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From: Pota@yahoogroups. com [Pota@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Friday, 2 October 2009 10:15 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released!

 

  They're called action figures, sir, not "dollies".

  I only play with them when I undress Zira. She's a very naughty girl and she needs to be punished! If you don't punish her she'll never learn her lesson.

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Anyone who ever says that "Man evolved from apes!" doesn't know what
they're talking about.

Man and the modern great apes share a common ancestor that goes back
millions of years. How many millions? No one knows for sure (and we
many never know because fossil remains may be rare or not exist), and
we may never know for sure exactly the path of our evolution, hence the
"theories." But it remains a scientific FACT, not something that is a
belief, that ape and man are closely related -- and what's so bad about
that?

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:18 pm
Subject: [pota] OT: Humans did not evolve from apes












Read it and weep, Zauis! The latest
celebrity on the fossil circuit is "Ardi" (Ardipithecus ramidus), who
is at
least a million years older than the famous "Lucy" (named after the
song "Lucy
in the Sky With Diamonds" - - there's your Beatles reference, Neil).
Lucy was
the oldest known fossil and suggested that humans and apes shared a
chimp
ancestor.
But Lucy, you've got some 'splainin' to
do...The much older Ardi shows many similarities to modern humans,
suggesting
that instead of us branching off from apes, they branched off from us.
We didn't
evolve from them, they evolved from us.
Yesss! I knew20it! We're # 1!! (He high five's
the nearest human). I'd like to buy Ardi a drink but it could be
messy.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=aSnZ83.h2RE0

I'll bet Cornelius feels vindicated;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
>
> Read it and weep, Zauis! The latest celebrity on the fossil circuit is "Ardi" (Ardipithecus ramidus), who is at least a million years older than the famous "Lucy" (named after the song "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds" - - there's your Beatles reference, Neil). Lucy was the oldest known fossil and suggested that humans and apes shared a chimp ancestor.
> But Lucy, you've got some 'splainin' to do...The much older Ardi shows many similarities to modern humans, suggesting that instead of us branching off from apes, they branched off from us. We didn't evolve from them, they evolved from us.
> Yesss! I knew it! We're # 1!! (He high five's the nearest human). I'd like to buy Ardi a drink but it could be messy.
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=aSnZ83.h2RE0
>

No, it's not a fact, it's a theory. Natural selection is a fact, mutation and adaption are facts, but since we can't go back in time to see anything long-term, it should be treated as a THEORY. People should give respect to the fact that the scientific evidence can be interpreted multiple ways.

Here's another view of the Ardi fossil

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2009/10/03/news-to-note-10032009

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Anyone who ever says that "Man evolved from apes!" doesn't know what
> they're talking about.
>
> Man and the modern great apes share a common ancestor that goes back
> millions of years. How many millions? No one knows for sure (and we
> many never know because fossil remains may be rare or not exist), and
> we may never know for sure exactly the path of our evolution, hence the
> "theories." But it remains a scientific FACT, not something that is a
> belief, that ape and man are closely related -- and what's so bad about
> that?
>
> -- Rory
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:18 pm
> Subject: [pota] OT: Humans did not evolve from apes
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Â
> Â Read it and weep, Zauis! The latest
> celebrity on the fossil circuit is "Ardi" (Ardipithecus ramidus), who
> is at
> least a million years older than the famous "Lucy" (named after the
> song "Lucy
> in the Sky With Diamonds" - - there's your Beatles reference, Neil).
> Lucy was
> the oldest known fossil and suggested that humans and apes shared a
> chimp
> ancestor.
> Â But Lucy, you've got some 'splainin' to
> do...The much older Ardi shows many similarities to modern humans,
> suggesting
> that instead of us branching off from apes, they branched off from us.
> We didn't
> evolve from them, they evolved from us.
> Â Yesss! I knew20it! We're # 1!! (He high five's
> the nearest human). I'd like to buy Ardi a drink but it could be
> messy.
> Â http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=aSnZ83.h2RE0
>
> Â
>

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"No, it's not a fact, it's a theory. Natural selection is a fact,
mutation and adaption are facts, but since we can't go back in time to
see anything long-term, it should be treated as a THEORY. People should
give respect to the fact that the scientific evidence can be
interpreted multiple ways."

Oh boy, here we go!

Evolution is not a theory, it is a scientific fact. It's basic
biology. There are only theories as to HOW things evolved, but it's a
fact that all life on this planet evolved form simple forms of life to
more complex. Man is the most complex ape that has evolved on this
planet -- so far -- and yes, we are apes. You can't ague with the DNA,
and we're so close genetically to the chimpanzee that we're practically
a type of chimpanzee, or the chimpanzee is a type of human.

It all depends on how you want to look at it. Now, anyone here got
something against chimpanzees?

-- Rory



In biology, evolution is change in the genetic material of a population
of organisms from one generation to the next. Though changes produced
in any one generation are normally small, differences accumulate with
each generation and can, over time, cause substantial changes in the
population, a process that can result in the emergence of new species.
The similarities among species suggest that all known species are
descended from a common ancestor (or ancestral gene pool) through20this
process of gradual divergence.



-----Original Message-----
From: knightangel314 <sgt_buck_frobisher@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 3, 2009 6:08 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: OT: Humans did not evolve from apes








No, it's not a fact, it's a theory. Natural selection is a fact,
mutation and adaption are facts, but since we can't go back in time to
see anything long-term, it should be treated as a THEORY. People should
give respect to the fact that the scientific evidence can be
interpreted multiple ways.



Here's another view of the Ardi fossil



http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2009/10/03/news-to-note-10032009

The following pota poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: From the live action TV series, which do you think is the best human guest star? You can vote more than once, so put your thinking caps on.

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Farrow/Royal Dano, 1 votes, 8.33%
- Tolar/William Smith, 2 votes, 16.67%
- Dalton/Marc Singer, 2 votes, 16.67%
- Miller/John Milford, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Arn/Zina Bethune, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Kraik/Jackie Earle Haley, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Soma/Kathleen Bracken, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Romar/Jim Storm, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Gahto/John McLaim, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Arn/Jamie Smith Jackson, 1 votes, 8.33%
- Travin/Micheal Strong, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Gregor/Meegan King, 1 votes, 8.33%
- Martin/Morgan Woodward, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Janor/Michael Conrad, 1 votes, 8.33%
- Mikal/James Daughton, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Amy/Sondra Locke, 1 votes, 8.33%
- Brun/John Ireland, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Miro/Ben Andrews, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Talia/Jennifer Ashley, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Leuric/Frank Aletter, 3 votes, 25.00%



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The following pota poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: From the live action TV series, which do you think is the best simian guest star? You can vote more than once, so put your thinking caps on.

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Yalu/Normann Burton, 1 votes, 9.09%
- Veska/Woodrow Parfrey, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Daku/Joseph Ruskin, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Zoran/David Sheiner, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Carsia/Joanna Barnes, 1 votes, 9.09%
- Aboro/Percy Rodrigues, 3 votes, 27.27%
- Fauna/Jane Actman, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Sestus/John Milford, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Perdix/Baynes Barron, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Ann/Ann Seymour, 1 votes, 9.09%
- Barlow/John Hoyt, 3 votes, 27.27%
- Zako/Norman Alden, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Anto/Geoffry Deuel, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Polar/Lonny Chapman, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Remus/Bobby Porter, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Zantes, Kira/Jacqueline Scott, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Hurton/Roscoe Lee Brown, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Bandor/Jay Robibson, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Leander, Konag/Martin Brooks, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Wanda/Beverley Garland, 2 votes, 18.18%



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Hi apesters,

Just like to say thanks to those who voted on my latest 2 polls.

But I am really disapointed that there was such a low turn out of voting.

Anyway thanks to those that took the time to vote.

Peter.

I've been collecting soundtracks since around '75. The first I ever bought myself was Rozsa's 'Golden Voyage of Sinbad'. At first I bought them as mementos of the movies themselves but these days it's only the music that counts. Some of the crappiest movies ever made might feature some of the most evocative and memorable music.

Goldsmith's POTA has always been a tough one for me. If I judge the score for the reason it was originally intended - to accompany and punctuate images unfolding on the screen - it is easily one of the greatest scores ever written.

To judge it as a pure listening experience - divorced from the images - there are many moments to enjoy but it is not a disc I would choose to play over dinner.

I have all the APES scores and they are the only exceptions to my rule - they're souvenirs of the movies themselves. Beneath is interesting from a technical point of view but as music it does nothing for me. Escape is fun and probably the most accessible on it's own. Conquest and Battle are IMHO, damp squibs.

There are many scores I would choose to listen listen to over 'chart' music, by Goldsmith, Barry and Morricone et al, but sadly, the Apes aren't among them.

That said, I'm about to place my order for the 'Escape' soundtrack now.

Dave

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:29 PM, peter_karsten63 <peter_karsten63@...> wrote:

Hi apesters,

Just like to say thanks to those who voted on my latest 2 polls.

But I am really disapointed that there was such a low turn out of voting.

Anyway thanks to those that took the time to vote.

Peter.

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I found an interesting factoid by accident.

I had met William Windom once before,

he performed his Thurbur One-Man-Show

at my high school.  I mentioned meeting

him back then.  And he told me that the

guy who played Friar Tuck in Robin Hood,

Eugene Palette, had gone to school there.

I was looking the other day for some sort

of evidence of that and discovered that

Roddy McDowall had also gone to school

there, and like myself, was persona non

grata. Though unlike Roddy, I was not

expelled, after a couple of years I was

asked not to return.  Even back then I

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Did anyone see The Big Bang Theory

Season Opener?  LOL!!!

 

 

In a message dated 10/3/2009 11:52:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

Evolution is not a theory, it is a scientific fact.

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"That said, I'm about to place my order for the 'Escape' soundtrack
now."

OK, so who's ordered it, or wants to order it -- but not right now --,
or doesn't give a monkey turd about it?

And, James, if you think we've been arguing about it, go to Film Score
Monthly's website and read the blogs there!

-- Rory (who's ordered it)

-----Original Message-----
From: smugster2000 <smugster2000@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2009 3:34 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released!








I've been collecting soundtracks since around '75. The first I ever
bought myself was Rozsa's 'Golden Voyage of Sinbad'. At first I bought
them as mementos of the movies themselves but these days it's only the
music that counts. Some of the crappiest movies ever made might feature
some of the most evocative and memorable music.



Goldsmith's POTA has always been a tough one for me. If I judge the
score for the reason it was originally intended - to accompany and
punctuate images unfolding on the screen - it is easily one of the
greatest scores ever written.



To judge it as a pure listening experience - divorced from the images -
there are many moments to enjoy but it is not a disc I would choose to
play over dinner.



I have all the APES scores and they are the only exceptions to my rule
- they're souvenirs of t
he movies themselves. Beneath is interesting
from a technical point of view but as music it does nothing for me.
Escape is fun and probably the most accessible on it's own. Conquest
and Battle are IMHO, damp squibs.



There are many scores I would choose to listen listen to over 'chart'
music, by Goldsmith, Barry and Morricone et al, but sadly, the Apes
aren't among them.



That said, I'm about to place my order for the 'Escape' soundtrack now.



Dave

"Did anyone see The Big Bang Theory Season Opener? LOL!!!"

Yes, I did, and I really like that show. I've even been renting the
DVDs from Netflix to see episodes I missed. There's a first season
episode where some of the boys go to a POTA marathon at a local theatre
-- though when they get there everyone is wearing chimp masks -- I've
never heard of that happening in POTAdom, and I guess they didn't want
to pay to license Goldsmith's music from PLANET because when the film
is playing (which they don't show), the music is from something else.

By the way, if you can, watch NOVA this week -- and I mean the PBS
program, not Linda Harrison.

-- Rory


-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2009 4:57 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Humans did not evolve from apes












Did anyone see The Big Bang Theory
Season Opener? LOL!!!



In a message dated 10/3/2009 11:52:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
Evolution is not a theory, it is a scientific fact.

I was born fifty years ago -- in the late, great year of 1959 -- and
something else debuted during this week fifty years ago -- THE TWILIGHT
ZONE!

Just thought I'd mention that.

-- Rory

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Really?? Do you have a link?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> And, James, if you think we've been arguing about it, go to Film Score
> Monthly's website and read the blogs there!
>
> -- Rory (who's ordered it)
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> " There's a first season episode where some of the boys go to a POTA marathon at a local theatre 

There was a post about that episode the night it aired: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/45791. You probably missed it because you were out of town that night. Remember the date and what you were doing?

-- though when they get there everyone is wearing chimp masks -- I've never heard of that happening in POTAdom,

Then you've never gone to a screening with Helen;-)

Happy 50th Birthday to you and The Twilight Zone!!!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I was born fifty years ago -- in the late, great year of 1959 -- and
> something else debuted during this week fifty years ago -- THE TWILIGHT
> ZONE!
>
> Just thought I'd mention that.
>
> -- Rory
>

Ordered it. - Scott B. --- On Sun, 10/4/09, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote: From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...> Subject: [pota] Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released! To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 12:54 PM   "That said, I'm about to place my order for the 'Escape' soundtrack now." OK, so who's ordered it, or wants to order it -- but not right now --, or doesn't give a monkey turd about it? And, James, if you think we've been arguing about it, go to Film Score Monthly's website and read the blogs there! -- Rory (who's ordered it) -----Original Message----- From: smugster2000 <smugster2000@ yahoo.com> To: pota@yahoogroups. com Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2009 3:34 am Subject: [pota] Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released!   I've been collecting soundtracks since around '75. The first I ever bought myself was Rozsa's 'Golden Voyage of Sinbad'. At first I bought them as mementos of the movies themselves but these days it's only the music that counts. Some of the crappiest movies ever made might feature some of the most evocative and memorable music. Goldsmith's POTA has always been a tough one for me. If I judge the score for the reason it was originally intended - to accompany and punctuate images unfolding on the screen - it is easily one of the greatest scores ever written. To judge it as a pure listening experience - divorced from the images - there are many moments to enjoy but it is not a disc I would choose to play over dinner. I have all the APES scores and they are the only exceptions to my rule - they're souvenirs of t he movies themselves. Beneath is interesting from a technical point of view but as music it does nothing for me. Escape is fun and probably the most accessible on it's own. Conquest and Battle are IMHO, damp squibs.. There are many scores I would choose to listen listen to over 'chart' music, by Goldsmith, Barry and Morricone et al, but sadly, the Apes aren't among them. That said, I'm about to place my order for the 'Escape' soundtrack now. Dave

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Looks like it got deleted. It got pretty heated and R-rated. Was
funny though. Basically someone was bitching that the CD doesn't have
any bonus tracks (for which he took a great deal of flack), then
another person started listing some possible ones that included
recordings of Jerry Goldsmith bodily functions. Anyway.... history.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2009 3:44 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released!









Really?? Do you have a link?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> And, James, if you think we've been arguing about it, go to Film
Score
> Monthly's website and read the blogs there!
>
> -- Rory (who's ordered it)
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:11 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released!

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 12:11 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Escape Soundtrack finally released!

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Here's a question that will bake your noodle.

If the Templars intended the U.S. to be the new

Zion as the Kensington Rune Stone suggests,

could the Earth also have been similar sort of

"New World" for interstellar or even inter-

dimensional travelers who's "wormhole" may

have collapsed trapping them for eons?

 

 

In a message dated 10/4/2009 6:59:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pota1968@... writes:

Then someone will ask us, "Did you enjoy the video game, Earth?" ;o)

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No.  In the season opener Sheldon went

back to Texas after being betrayed by his

friends.  But he returned with them after

his mother his everyone was entitled to

their opinion as far as the theory of evolution.

Sheldon said it wasn't a theory, it was fact.

To which she said, "That's your opinion."  

So it was more related to this discovery

that an hominid older than Lucy was more

human than ape.  I also heard an interesting

discussion on the radio that Neanderthals

were more ape than man.  And that we had

basically just appeared on Earth with no

direct connections to them at all.  And we

come full circle to the Divine Intervention /

Traveling Alien Intervention Theories.  Bam! 

 

In a message dated 10/4/2009 7:27:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

what happened on Big Bang Theory this week....? POTA related?

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> No. In the season opener Sheldon went
> back to Texas after being betrayed by his
> friends. But he returned with them after
> his mother his everyone was entitled to
> their opinion as far as the theory of evolution.
> Sheldon said it wasn't a theory, it was fact.
> To which she said, "That's your opinion."
> So it was more related to this discovery
> that an hominid older than Lucy was more
> human than ape. I also heard an interesting
> discussion on the radio that Neanderthals
> were more ape than man. And that we had
> basically just appeared on Earth with no
> direct connections to them at all. And we
> come full circle to the Divine Intervention /
> Traveling Alien Intervention Theories. Bam!
>
>
> In a message dated 10/4/2009 7:27:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
> what happened on Big Bang Theory this week....? POTA related?
>

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Rubber replica General Ursus helmet now available at Apemania. Go on...you know you want to get your ape on!!

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Jess.

i always thought that conquest was the best. being only 12 when it was released and playing piano, oboe,and sax the theme esp, i loved. those instruments are used alot,along with brass. to me it perfectly fits in its time and ours and it was the most progressive and atonal but in a jazz chromatic way and i dont care for jazz. it employs the best elements from some of goldsmiths cues it keeps it part of the musical family of apes themes and it is to me the only one that does not sound dated. it was so cool to me at the time and i guess its just part of my dna now. its funny that musicians and audio engineers and such have always thought this theme the best while apes fans have problems with it. i mean just the start of the film with its intro and the 1991 sprawled across a big 40ft screen when i originaly saw it about 15 times in 72,and the red gorilla it always gave me the creeps in a cool way. say what you want its great. john m

Hi Jess,

No need to apologize,and thanks for your email.

Peter.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Peter, I am sorry I didn't participate in your vote because I skimmed the
> question, and I thought you were asking about the human guest stars, and I'm
> really bad with names--plus I am not that familiar with the TV series...so I
> immediately thought three strikes!! I'm out!! But now that I am really
> reading the question with my full attention, it was a real good poll!!
>
> Jess.
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:29 PM, peter_karsten63 <
> peter_karsten63@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi apesters,
> >
> > Just like to say thanks to those who voted on my latest 2 polls.
> >
> > But I am really disapointed that there was such a low turn out of voting.
> >
> > Anyway thanks to those that took the time to vote.
> >
> > Peter.
> >
> >
> >
>

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There's just a lot of Bad Science floating

around out there.  This guy was saying that

they were trying to hide the fact that the DNA

results was really already in, and they found that

Neanderthals were more closely related to apes

than we are to them. Anyone care to research

this topic?  Right now I've got bigger fish to fry.

 

In a message dated 10/5/2009 8:57:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes:

People just need to get over themselves!!

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That was the missing piece of the puzzle.

And since it was the guy who took over for

Art Bell, George Nori, yes they may have

been idiots.  The Neanderthal genome

was supposed to have been cracked

over a year ago.  Them of course there's 

a conspiracy to hide the fact that we

are in no way related to Neanderthals. 

Seems like every time someone needs to

sell their book there's a conspiracy involved,

whether it's left, right, or alien.   ; )  Maybe

the Vatican is involved.  The Minister of  

Science is also Chief Defender of the Faith!

 

In a message dated 10/5/2009 8:57:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes:

That radio show must have consisted of idiots. DNA says it all.

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Got any good cheats?

 

 

In a message dated 10/5/2009 12:42:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pota1968@... writes:

"Earth" is currently at the top of the charts with 6.8 billion players online and climbing.

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I agree with you on many of those points..  I love the way the main title opens with discordant sound with a single gorilla appearing.  Then leading to a beat that grows in both structure as more apes are revealed.  The theme first seems playful then more structured and serious till it falls apart completely with the approaching the camera and eclipsing it. A perfect opening with symbolizing the entire film's arch all accomplished within the main credits. - Scott B. --- On Mon, 10/5/09, johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...> wrote: From: johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...> Subject: [pota] conquest score is great To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 4:40 PM   i always thought that conquest was the best. being only 12 when it was released and playing piano, oboe,and sax the theme esp, i loved. those instruments are used alot,along with brass. to me it perfectly fits in its time and ours and it was the most progressive and atonal but in a jazz chromatic way and i dont care for jazz. it employs the best elements from some of goldsmiths cues it keeps it part of the musical family of apes themes and it is to me the only one that does not sound dated. it was so cool to me at the time and i guess its just part of my dna now. its funny that musicians and audio engineers and such have always thought this theme the best while apes fans have problems with it. i mean just the start of the film with its intro and the 1991 sprawled across a big 40ft screen when i originaly saw it about 15 times in 72,and the red gorilla it always gave me the creeps in a cool way. say what you want its great. john m

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:

>
> I agree with you on many of those points. I love the way the main title opens with discordant sound with a single gorilla appearing. Then leading to a beat that grows in both structure as more apes are revealed. The theme first seems playful then more structured and serious till it falls apart completely with the approaching the camera and eclipsing it.
> A perfect opening with symbolizing the entire film's arch all accomplished within the main credits.
> - Scott B.
>
> --- On Mon, 10/5/09, johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: johnmermigas <johnmermigas@...>
> Subject: [pota] conquest score is great
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 4:40 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> i always thought that conquest was the best. being only 12 when it was released and playing piano, oboe,and sax the theme esp, i loved. those instruments are used alot,along with brass. to me it perfectly fits in its time and ours and it was the most progressive and atonal but in a jazz chromatic way and i dont care for jazz. it employs the best elements from some of goldsmiths cues it keeps it part of the musical family of apes themes and it is to me the only one that does not sound dated. it was so cool to me at the time and i guess its just part of my dna now. its funny that musicians and audio engineers and such have always thought this theme the best while apes fans have problems with it. i mean just the start of the film with its intro and the 1991 sprawled across a big 40ft screen when i originaly saw it about 15 times in 72,and the red gorilla it always gave me the creeps in a cool way. say what you want its great. john m
>

thanks scott, i remember you somehow back in the 70s or the laserdisc days because of you florida address or whatever and i think when we were all trying to find the stereo elements to planet i came across you. it might of been in laserreview or pond scum , or i forgot the name of the yellow paper rag that was sold here in new york at laserland[laserdisc review,mayby] . anyway you put what i was trying to get across much more fluently. this web site is good its getting me in touch with alot of old aquantinces,such as joe russo when i replied to his add in famous monsters to be his penpal[how lame]ha.ha. in 1973-74. also of note was bruce surtees work. a perfect match for conquest, his style was always very documenterian and his use of exsisting light was great and part of the reason why transfers of conquest were always alittle grainy on purpose.most of the complaints on conquest come from people that probably did not see it in the theaters when released and dont realize that the blu-ray esp is almost exactly the way it was.i saw it when released at the embasy at 46th street and it was so vibrant even though j.lee was going for a desaturated look. it sounded so great.that is a point of contention with this film and planet especially. at every new transfer planet seems to sound worse each time. i still believe fox is just lazy and will always feel that way.i was told by bart pierce that the original sountracks were at rca and they never used them. i asked why back in 1992 when hbo was playing the apes films they looked and sounded wonderfull he said they do their own mastering and i said you should hire them to do the laser transfers. after a while it became an acromonious relationship at we parted ways. im going on to much...take care john m

never mind the florida reference, i think i got mixed up with someone else,but everything else i wrote is fine john m

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Sounds like they're having second thoughts about the "Caesar" angle.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty
To: Pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:32 AM
Subject: [Pota] M.I.A.



M.I.A. indeed!



I recently spoke to a fellow at Fox (whom I was referred to by Scott Frank's office), asking if he could tell me anything and he said:



"Just that this project is in WAY too early development to say ANYTHING!"



Read between the lines. Looks like it's all too hard again..



Michael




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From: Pota@yahoogroups.com [Pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 3:10 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Pota] OT: Yo! Adrien cast in "Predators"





The first of Fox's revamped sci-fi classics (which will presumably include a new POTA) is at the starting gate. "Predators" has signed Adrien Brody to go where Ah-nuld didn't fear to tread.

What? No muscle man like Ah-nuld (or Marky Mark)? Could this be clearing the way for Woody Allen to face off against Dr. Zauis?

"Predators" is due to hit theaters next summer. The new POTA is still M.I.A.