its obvious to me that its the set up for the scene when the two gorillas drop heston into the horse and caraige. most photos are taken after or before the ,motion picture camera stops. the still photographer waits till cut! then snaps away. thats why most pictures arent exactly the same from the film. he would be in the way and his noise would be picked up by the sound man. some photos are direct copies of the 35mm print but thats rare.sometimes a director will allow a few shots during rehersal but actors dont like that,so its rarely done.i have all 44 of those topps cards and almost all of them are not exactly in the film...i hope this is some kind of an answer... john m

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dcspres" <dcspres@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> New to the group and am enjoying sifting through all the messages.
>
> I have a question about a scene from the original movie. I have nearly the entire collection of the original POTA cards from way back when. I was lucky enough to fill in a few missing ones at a Chiller Theater convention a few years back. My question is about Card #12 (link to photo: https://pota.goatley.com/movie_cards/original/pota-movie-card-12.jpg). As near as I can tell, this scene never made it into the final movie. Judging by the people sitting in the backround - it doesn't look like the director had yelled "action" yet. Does anyone recall seeing this scene on video - perhaps as a deleted scene or promo? This question has been nagging at me for years, and I figured that you folks would be the ones to ask.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Rich
> dcspres@...
>

Welcome Rich,

Yes, many here can answer almost any question you might have. This is
the home of POTA nerds, some already into retirement. Anyway....

In regards to the photo on the Topps PLANET card #12: Many of the
cards feature rehearsal shots, not stills of actually frames of the
film or stills taken during takes that ended up in the final cut. In
the case of #12, that's a rehearsal shot. You can see the actors on
the ground, playing dead humans, sitting up. This scene in the movie
is part of a somewhat elaborate tracking shot just after the conclusion
of the hunt. It starts with a boy being carried out of the cornfield
by a gorilla and ends with the wounded Taylor being placed in a wagon.
Several gorillas walk into and out of the shot as well as a couple
horses, a wagon, and actors playing "dead" humans either hung up or
laid out. I'm sure it took some time to set up and shoot. In the film
you see the woman who's being carried by the gorilla in card #12 -- and
looking not too comfortable in that still -- brought into frame and
laid among the dead humans. The man being carried in the photo on the
card looks to have already been put down in the final shot as it
appears in the finished film.

-- Rory

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 9:51 pm
Subject: [pota] First Post ... And A Question








Hello,



New to the group and am enjoying sifting through all the messages.



I have a question about a scene from the original movie. I have nearly
the entire collection of the original POTA cards from way back when. I
was lucky enough to fill in a few missing ones at a Chiller Theater
convention a few years back. My question is about Card #12 (link to
photo:
https://pota.goatley.com/movie_cards/original/pota-movie-card-12.jpg).
As near as I can tell, this scene never made it into the final movie.
Judging by the people sitting in the background - it doesn't look like
the director had yelled "action" yet. Does anyone recall seeing this
scene on video - perhaps as a deleted scene or promo? This question
has been nagging at me for years, and I figured that you folks would be
the ones to ask.



Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!



Rich

dcspres@...

retirement isnt all its cracked up to be rory...john m

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Welcome Rich,
>
> Yes, many here can answer almost any question you might have. This is
> the home of POTA nerds, some already into retirement. Anyway....
>
> In regards to the photo on the Topps PLANET card #12: Many of the
> cards feature rehearsal shots, not stills of actually frames of the
> film or stills taken during takes that ended up in the final cut. In
> the case of #12, that's a rehearsal shot. You can see the actors on
> the ground, playing dead humans, sitting up. This scene in the movie
> is part of a somewhat elaborate tracking shot just after the conclusion
> of the hunt. It starts with a boy being carried out of the cornfield
> by a gorilla and ends with the wounded Taylor being placed in a wagon.
> Several gorillas walk into and out of the shot as well as a couple
> horses, a wagon, and actors playing "dead" humans either hung up or
> laid out. I'm sure it took some time to set up and shoot. In the film
> you see the woman who's being carried by the gorilla in card #12 -- and
> looking not too comfortable in that still -- brought into frame and
> laid among the dead humans. The man being carried in the photo on the
> card looks to have already been put down in the final shot as it
> appears in the finished film.
>
> -- Rory
>

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I've been buying and selling for many years and the price...always...goes...up...except for the Burton APES stuff. You can't GIVE that stuff away.

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 10/30/2009 10:03:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

With the economy right now, I'd hang on to everything and hope that
five to ten years from now it's better, but with the original POTA fans
becoming old farts, I have to wonder if younger people will have the
same passion? With the prices for the film's posters, etc. continue to
rise such as the Universal Horror stuff has?

-- Rory

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I should have added that just because the price (or should I say VALUE)  goes up does not mean people are buying them! That goes for the majority of collectibles (that weren't made in the millions).

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 10/30/2009 11:48:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stenosaurus@... writes:

I've been buying and selling for many years and the price...always. ..goes... up...except for the Burton APES stuff. You can't GIVE that stuff away.

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 10/30/2009 10:03:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Haristas@aol. com writes:

With the economy right now, I'd hang on to everything and hope that
five to ten years from now it's better, but with the original POTA fans
becoming old farts, I have to wonder if younger people will have the
same passion? With the prices for the film's posters, etc. continue to
rise such as the Universal Horror stuff has?

-- Rory

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On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:51 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

Thanks Jessica for the detailed info! Is it alright if I pass it on?

-- Rory

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From: JohnM conquest-idor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:08 PM

Subject: [pota] two things

 

any of the keen film guys here ever notice that the conquest the plays on fox has the isolated score cue used for the music that accompanies caesar when after the electrocution he clanks the guard on the head.its not whats on the bluray or dvd or vhs/beta but the isolated cue that plays. also that hollywood museum in hollywood turned into a dive many years ago.i was almost mugged their back in the late70s and again on my honeymoon in 82.the better museum was the one out near i think disneyland[someone from cal. would know]. they both had ape displays.also i know we call the spaceship icuras but that was just madeup from a fan, right....john m

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From: Tim "apefan"

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:34 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: collecting [tims room]

 

tell me about it......the Burton stuff is worthless!!!

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From: "stenosaurus@ aol.com" <stenosaurus@ aol.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 11:18:33 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: collecting [tims room]

 

I've been buying and selling for many years and the price...always. ..goes... up...except for the Burton APES stuff. You can't GIVE that stuff away.

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 10/30/2009 10:03:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Haristas@aol. com writes:

With the economy right now, I'd hang on to everything and hope that
five to ten years from now it's better, but with the original POTA fans
becoming old farts, I have to wonder if younger people will have the
same passion? With the prices for the film's posters, etc. continue to
rise such as the Universal Horror stuff has?

-- Rory

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I doubt it is the Icarus ship - it probably is from the 2001
movie - since the copy calls it a "space shuttle".

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Could someone in LA please rush over to the Hollywood Museum and check this out????
>
> ..."A "Planet of the Apes" display, featuring costumes from both old and
> new Apes movies, as well as the crew’s crashed space shuttle...."
>
> http://www.thehollywoodmuseum.com/about/
>
> click on "ground floor"
>
> 1660 N. Highland Ave. near the SE corner of Hollywood Blvd. in the old Max Factor Building!
>

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ive gone to that museum when i have visited l.a. they dont let you take pix,i have taken some but quickly. if there is anyone near please stop in and let us know what story is     goapebilly

 

In a message dated 10/31/2009 8:07:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, drmego@... writes:

 

I doubt it is the Icarus ship - it probably is from the 2001
movie - since the copy calls it a "space shuttle".

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@.. .> wrote:
>
> Could someone in LA please rush over to the Hollywood Museum and check this out????
>
> ..."A "Planet of the Apes" display, featuring costumes from both old and
> new Apes movies, as well as the crew’s crashed space shuttle...."
>
> http://www.theholly woodmuseum. com/about/
>
> click on "ground floor"
>
> 1660 N. Highland Ave. near the SE corner of Hollywood Blvd. in the old Max Factor Building!
>

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I'm not so sure--no Space Shuttle crashes in the 2001 version. We see a space station and a one-seat pod crash in that film, neither of which really resemble a Space Shuttle. It's the 1968 film that looks more Space Shuttle-esque.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "megodoctor" <drmego@...> wrote:
>
> I doubt it is the Icarus ship - it probably is from the 2001
> movie - since the copy calls it a "space shuttle".
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > Could someone in LA please rush over to the Hollywood Museum and check this out????
> >
> > ..."A "Planet of the Apes" display, featuring costumes from both old and
> > new Apes movies, as well as the crew’s crashed space shuttle...."
> >
> > http://www.thehollywoodmuseum.com/about/
> >
> > click on "ground floor"
> >
> > 1660 N. Highland Ave. near the SE corner of Hollywood Blvd. in the old Max Factor Building!
> >
>

You are probably right. But it doesn't hurt to check just in case.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I don't believe there's NATO films to the last three sequels. By that
> time they kind of sold themselves. If there were NATO films, we'd have
> known.
>
> -- Rory
>

If someone has this issue and can do a scan of the article for the group it would be greatly appreciated.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John B Kirtley" <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
>
> This months SciFi Now mag has a great four page article about the TV series. A Retro-reassessment
> that is very interesting and has some great pictures.
>
> John
>
>

I would tend to agree with Paul here. I believe the 4 foot model of Taylor's ship is still at Planet Hollywood. It is probably something from the 2001 film.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "megodoctor" <drmego@...> wrote:
>
> I doubt it is the Icarus ship - it probably is from the 2001
> movie - since the copy calls it a "space shuttle".
>

Do you really think the clerk who wrote the copy gets the difference? At least on a semantical level?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not so sure--no Space Shuttle crashes in the 2001 version. We see a space station and a one-seat pod crash in that film, neither of which really resemble a Space Shuttle. It's the 1968 film that looks more Space Shuttle-esque.
>
>

Hey Rich,

Welcome to the group. Please tells us more about yourself. Where are you from? How long have you been a POTA fan? What was your first exposure to POTA? Wha't's your favorite film?

As far as your question, I don't think I've ever seen a deleted scene or promo that included that shot. But there were a lot of stills used in the card set that were not in the film.

If you're interested in Trading Cards bu sure to check out the scans in the group website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/TradingCards.htm 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dcspres" <dcspres@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> New to the group and am enjoying sifting through all the messages.
>
> I have a question about a scene from the original movie. I have nearly the entire collection of the original POTA cards from way back when. I was lucky enough to fill in a few missing ones at a Chiller Theater convention a few years back. My question is about Card #12 (link to photo: https://pota.goatley.com/movie_cards/original/pota-movie-card-12.jpg). As near as I can tell, this scene never made it into the final movie. Judging by the people sitting in the backround - it doesn't look like the director had yelled "action" yet. Does anyone recall seeing this scene on video - perhaps as a deleted scene or promo? This question has been nagging at me for years, and I figured that you folks would be the ones to ask.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Rich
> dcspres@...
>

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Joanne

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I think the more important point here, Rich, is that you have a damn good first name. Welcome!

--Rich Handley

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Rich,
>
> Welcome to the group. Please tells us more about yourself. Where are you
> from? How long have you been a POTA fan? What was your first exposure to
> POTA? Wha't's your favorite film?
>
> As far as your question, I don't think I've ever seen a deleted scene or
> promo that included that shot. But there were a lot of stills used in
> the card set that were not in the film.
>
> If you're interested in Trading Cards bu sure to check out the scans in
> the group website:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/TradingCards.htm
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/TradingCards.htm>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dcspres" <dcspres@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > New to the group and am enjoying sifting through all the messages.
> >
> > I have a question about a scene from the original movie. I have nearly
> the entire collection of the original POTA cards from way back when. I
> was lucky enough to fill in a few missing ones at a Chiller Theater
> convention a few years back. My question is about Card #12 (link to
> photo:
> https://pota.goatley.com/movie_cards/original/pota-movie-card-12.jpg). As
> near as I can tell, this scene never made it into the final movie.
> Judging by the people sitting in the backround - it doesn't look like
> the director had yelled "action" yet. Does anyone recall seeing this
> scene on video - perhaps as a deleted scene or promo? This question has
> been nagging at me for years, and I figured that you folks would be the
> ones to ask.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
> >
> > Rich
> > dcspres@
> >
>

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That is true, of course.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Do you really think the clerk who wrote the copy gets the difference? At
> least on a semantical level?
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not so sure--no Space Shuttle crashes in the 2001 version. We see
> a space station and a one-seat pod crash in that film, neither of which
> really resemble a Space Shuttle. It's the 1968 film that looks more
> Space Shuttle-esque.
> >
> >
>

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There's a store in NYC called Forbidden Planet...most of the 2001 APES collectibles I bought were from their "clearance sale" bin for a dollar or two!

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 10/31/2009 12:44:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

tell me about it......the Burton stuff is worthless!!!

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In a message dated 10/31/2009 12:47:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:

 

Indeed it is. Planet Hollywood (Orlando) at Downtown Disney.

I see every time I go there. Took pictures of it once and can't for the life of me find them. I'll be back up there in January.

I'll be sure to take some more pictures then.

 

Al

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From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@aol. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 8:55:51 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Icarus found??????? ????????? ????

 

I would tend to agree with Paul here. I believe the 4 foot model of Taylor's ship is still at Planet Hollywood. It is probably something from the 2001 film.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "megodoctor" <drmego@...> wrote:
>
> I doubt it is the Icarus ship - it probably is from the 2001
> movie - since the copy calls it a "space shuttle".
>

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i think items to known actors as mark wahlberg wont decrease in value,especially autographed.

but you got to remember original planet of the apes costumes and pieces in the 80s early 90s were being sold at thrift stores and flea markets in LA for next to nothing ,ive been told by people who lived there that they personally had chimp and orang costume jackets etc and sold them for $25 -$40 .now you have to spend thousands to get beat up pieces

 

In a message dated 10/31/2009 11:38:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, josievan@... writes:

 

I spent a fortune on a shirt worn by Mark Wahlberg in the movie.  Unfortunately, I am sure it has decreased in value.   I happened to like the movie though. Joanne   --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net> wrote: From: Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: collecting [tims room] To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 1:55 AM     I like the Burton stuff. For me the best part of that movie was the costume and ape designs. It might be worthless but it also cost next to nothing to buy. Cheap thrills.

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i really doubt its real,who knows,but until someone says they know or sold it to them and it was a original

 

In a message dated 10/31/2009 9:08:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:

Yeap, that's it. Hanging from the ceiling of Planet Hollywood in Orlando.

Only so many pictures one can take from that angle so that's pretty much as good as it gets.

 

Al

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From: Alex Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:55 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Icarus found????????????????????

Yeap, that's it. Hanging from the ceiling of Planet Hollywood in Orlando.

Only so many pictures one can take from that angle so that's pretty much as good as it gets.

 

Al

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I have to wonder if it's actually the model used in the film. I
thought Bill Creber still had it.

Have you ever noticed in the film that the model seems to have no glass
in its windows? You can see through one window and out the other as
it's being pulled down.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: goapebilly@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 31, 2009 10:35 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Icarus found????????????????????











i really doubt its real,who knows,but until someone says they know or
sold
it to them and it was a original


In a message dated 10/31/2009 9:08:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
pota1968@... writes:






Yeap, that's it. Hanging from the ceiling of Planet Hollywood in
Orlando.
Only so many pictures one can take from that angle so that's pretty
much
as good as it gets.



Al

Those pictures of yours, Jeff, have reminded me of what a good idea it
would be to make a model of Ape City.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 31, 2009 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Icarus found????????????????????











What about the two from the Motion Picture
Academy display (1996), toward the bottom? Is the one in the case the
same one
at Planet Hollywood?

https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/upcloseandpersonal.html"

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From:
Alex Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:55
PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Icarus
found????????????????????



Yeap, that's it. Hanging from the ceiling of Planet Hollywood in
Orlando.
Only so many pictures one can take from that angle so that's pretty
much
as good as it gets.



Al

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J. Lee?

Or Hunter?

LOL ; )

 

In a message dated 10/28/2009 1:06:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I don't know about Thompson. The poop is he was an alcoholic and ran
his career into the ground. By the seventies he was pretty much just a
hack. He certainly has one of the most uneven careers.

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I was watching POTA with the Closed Captions

and noticed that even Fox takes some liberties

with the Captions.  Just one example.  "Looks

down his nose at Chimpanzees."  was changed

to "Dislikes Chimpanzees." presumably to fit

under the screen better for Screen Left Screen

Right Captioning rather than Line By Character

Name Captioning.  Anyone catch any more?

 

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I have to agree.  Film get enough of a blue green

tinge to it when it's transferred for digital editing

without any heavy handed desaturation.  The

shift to the sunnier color spectrum for the

By The Sea number in Sweeney Todd

was a breath of fresh air in a dank

and dusty cellar.  Burton must

have eye trouble if he recalls

Hammer Films that way. I

saw a doco that said you

could tell what diseases

of the eye all of the old

impressionists had

by their paintings.

 

 

 

In a message dated 10/30/2009 1:10:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, digitalcinema@... writes:

Instead we get an idiots transmission of a controlled palette.

Thank God, the POTA films were made then and not now. 

-  Scott B.

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Screw that!  I want to see McDowall's Bathroom!

They did the same thing with the CBGB's bathroom.

It's not in Las Vegas of all places.  The weirdest one

I ever heard of was doing a public restroom with the

bricks from the garage where the St. Valentine's Day

Massacre too place.  I don't think I could pee there.

That's saying a lot . . . considering where I have.

  

 

In a message dated 10/30/2009 4:49:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

..."A "Planet of the Apes" display, featuring costumes from both old and new Apes movies, as well as the crew's crashed space shuttle...."

http://www.theholly woodmuseum. com/about/

click on "ground floor"

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I often find myself thinking, "What's the most

advanced piece of Ape Technology?"  I usually

think, the machine gun, or the camera, etc . . .

But tonight I figured it out!  It's the clear plastic

medical tubing for the transfusion!  Clear Plastic?

On the Planet Of The Apes?  That's Advanced!

Well beyond all those other inventions.

 

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I did the same thing for the "Lost in Space" movie collectibles as well. Saved a lot of $$ that way.

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 10/31/2009 3:55:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

you were smart! I bought it all before the movie came out!

---

From: "stenosaurus@ aol.com" <stenosaurus@ aol.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 11:15:58 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: collecting [tims room]

 

There's a store in NYC called Forbidden Planet...most of the 2001 APES collectibles I bought were from their "clearance sale" bin for a dollar or two!

 

Bruce

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alex Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:51 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Icarus found????????????????????

 

I don't think so. The one at Planet Hollywood seems a bit larger than that one.

The one at Planet Hollywood is roughly 25 to 30 inches long if I recall correctly. 

 

Al

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alex Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:51 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Icarus found????????????????????

 

I don't think so. The one at Planet Hollywood seems a bit larger than that one.

The one at Planet Hollywood is roughly 25 to 30 inches long if I recall correctly. 

 

Al

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years ago they said that the full sized ship was in franklin schaffners backyard as a flower box. its true. john m

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> By the color of the craft's nose, I'd say the one at Planet Hollywood could be the real deal.
> It's a dark dirty gold color. Just like the one in the movie... "Going... going... gone." scene.
>
> Al
>
>
>

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"years ago they said that the full sized ship was in franklin
schaffners backyard as a flower box. its true. john m"

This is November 1st, not April 1st.

Anyway, Schaffner's been dead for twenty years now. Who knows who
lives in his house?

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Nov 1, 2009 9:51 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Icarus found????????????????????

years ago they said that the full sized ship was in franklin schaffners
backyard as a flower box. its true. john m

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i cant believe it is real ,hanging unprotected from the ceiling. anything planet hollywood has that is original is in a case protected.you have to remember its a restaurant and heaven knows all the grease and such floating around in the air it would ruin anything real and not protected in time .

 

In a message dated 11/1/2009 5:06:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

 

It's so far up there! I think it should be in a glass case on the floor wo you can see it upclose!!!

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From: William Burge <billburge48@ yahoo.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Cc: billburge48@ yahoo.com
Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 4:29:05 PM
Subject: [pota] planet spaceship [7 Attachments]

 

dear group, found some pictures from planet hollywood in orlando,fla  of the icarus spaceship from planet 68  . if you look you will see it in the upper left corner and the middle . from william burge

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>>Just anonymously send a DVD of the stuff to Fox with a letter

telling
them that if they don't start showing it on their movie channel, you're
going to try and make $$$$$ selling it on eBay! Also, be sure to make
a little drawing of an ape giving them the finger on the bottom of the
page.

Just remember not to put your return address on the envelope. <<
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>>I don't believe there's NATO films to the last three sequels. By

that
time they kind of sold themselves. If there were NATO films, we'd have known. <<

>>Hey you never know. And who knows what's lost down in that salt

mine! <<

>> I was planning on asking him that actually. You'd figure though

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I was watching BATTLE yesterday, and noticed for the first time that the
mutant HQ looks suspiciously similar to the Ape Management set from
CONQUEST. In fact, there's that one scene in CONQUEST (when you see Ape
Management for the first time and the guard is bringing Caesar through
it) where the camera pans up from the control panel in front of that one
long window overlooking the large training area. I'll have to dig out my
DVDs and double check, but it almost seems like Thompson repeated that
camera technique in BATTLE to show what had happened to the very same
place that was once the epicenter of the human's control over the ape
population.

Anyone else notice this?


Chris L.

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fox sucks, they run a ape marathon and they run the worst copies they could possibly find,they really do suck it big time ,sell the apes to a studio that will do the right thing

 

In a message dated 11/1/2009 6:50:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:

 

I think I have my 'B' plan now...    :-)

 

 

Chris L.

 

 

 

"Haristas@aol. com" <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:

 

>>Just anonymously send a DVD of the stuff to Fox with a letter telling
them that if they don't start showing it on their movie channel, you're
going to try and make $$$$$ selling it on eBay! Also, be sure to make
a little drawing of an ape giving them the finger on the bottom of the
page.

Just remember not to put your return address on the envelope. <<

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> i cant believe it is real ,hanging unprotected from the ceiling. anything
> planet hollywood has that is original is in a case protected.you have to
> remember its a restaurant and heaven knows all the grease and such floating
> around in the air it would ruin anything real and not protected in time .

Exactly. But I've seen plenty of stuff that was real that was not
protected. When TITANIC first came out, the Planet Hollywood in San
Diego had bunches of props from that hanging unprotected on the
ceilings and walls.

I've seen the ship in Orlando and have no idea if it's real or not.
But whether it is or not did nothing to diminish the fun of seeing it
there (next to the giant Alien queen).

Hunter

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sorry to sound dumb but what is NATO?

KJ

> ligation!
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ive been there a bunch of times ,most stuff hanging isnt anything i believe real or can be damaged

 

In a message dated 11/1/2009 8:54:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:

 

The "Liberty 1" isn't the only air craft hanging from that ceiling.
There's a whole slew of movie air crafts up there. Next time I go to Planet Hollywood in January I'll take pictures of the entire ceiling.

 

Al

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From: "goapebilly@ aol.com" <goapebilly@aol. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 5:13:48 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] planet spaceship

 

i cant believe it is real ,hanging unprotected from the ceiling. anything planet hollywood has that is original is in a case protected.you have to remember its a restaurant and heaven knows all the grease and such floating around in the air it would ruin anything real and not protected in time .

 

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yes i have, and would believe cooking grease and such are more damaging to items  ,plus the  items  hanging in smithsonian.are generally made of steel etc.

  but i highly doubt ship on ceiling is real

 

In a message dated 11/1/2009 8:57:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:

 

If you've ever been to the Smithsonian in Washington D.C. you'll notice that real authentic aircrafts hanging from the ceiling isn't a new idea.

In fact it's the safest place to keep them. Again the "Libery 1" isn't the only aircraft hanging from the ceiling at Planet Hollywood.

 

Al  

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From: "goapebilly@ aol.com" <goapebilly@aol. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 5:13:48 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] planet spaceship

 

i cant believe it is real ,hanging unprotected from the ceiling. anything planet hollywood has that is original is in a case protected.you have to remember its a restaurant and heaven knows all the grease and such floating around in the air it would ruin anything real and not protected in time .

 

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national association of theatre owners....i think john m

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kevin <pellew@...> wrote:
>
> sorry to sound dumb but what is NATO?
>
> KJ
>
>
> > ligation!
> > <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2142/c?cp=owSbshrqsS6D-pq8GSFb1AAAJ1AYxRFJSc00cT5lNS4Xrbm-AAQAAAAFAAAAAOKlND8AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABIYGAAAAAA=>
> >
>

"I was watching BATTLE yesterday, and noticed for the first time that
the
mutant HQ looks suspiciously similar to the Ape Management set from
CONQUEST. In fact, there's that one scene in CONQUEST (when you see Ape
Management for the first time and the guard is bringing Caesar through
it) where the camera pans up from the control panel in front of that one
long window overlooking the large training area. I'll have to dig out my
DVDs and double check, but it almost seems like Thompson repeated that
camera technique in BATTLE to show what had happened to the very same
place that was once the epicenter of the human's control over the ape
population.

Anyone else notice this?

Chris L."

OK guys, seriously... is it April 1st? Am I Rip Van Winkle and just
slept through the last six months, or is this the Twilight Zone?

YES!!! I noticed this.... the date of that noticing would be sometime
in July...

1973!

-- Rory

"fox sucks, they run a ape marathon and they run the worst
copies they could possibly find,they really do suck it big time ,sell
the apes
to a studio that will do the right thing"

I was thinking the same thing today... Why would they show these
horrible late seventies transfers of these awful fake TV movie things?

But then this is the same Fox Movie Channel that shows an absolutely
horrible print of THE SAND PEBBLES and I mean UNWATCHABLE! So, why
should APES be any different?

The FMC is a very strange channel. TCM they ain't, but at least every
so often they show something rare. At least they do that.

-- Rory

Wrong NATO--actually, in this case, it stands for the National Association of Theatre Owners.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
>
> Northern Atlantic Treaty Organization that what NATO stands for.
>
>
>
>
>

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thanks guys - I knew the

Northern Atlantic Treaty Organization

not the other one

KJ

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they
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Ed Hannigan, legendary comics artist, has multiple sclerosis.Marvel and the Hero Initiative are putting out a tribute magazine, 'Ed Hannigan:Covered', featuring tributes from guys like Mark Millar and Jim Valentino, as well as a a collection of Ed's covers.Ed did 'Evolution's Nightmare' with Doug Moench in Apes #5, so he's Apes family and, at only $5.99,I heartily implore you to order/buy one to help out a true great.John, Scrolls.

SciFiNow #34 in the UK this month has a really good four page colour overview of the Apes tv series, giving a balanced and informed account, as opposed to the hackneyed crap usually churned out about the series.John,Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42 <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Which marathon were you watching? I caught parts (or the entirety) of all
> the different features FMC ran, and the only one that was questionable
> was BACK TO THE PLANET OF THE APES. The picture wasn't as clear as the
> other four telemovies (which all looked very good) and the sound was in
> mono whereas the other four were stereo.
>
> I know that Fox has messed up with this franchise more often than not,
> but let's not go **looking** for problems either...
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>

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Yeah the transfers on some of the TV movies were really bad. So was the transfer of Battle. The colors were off.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> "fox sucks, they run a ape marathon and they run the worst
> copies they could possibly find,they really do suck it big time ,sell
> the apes
> to a studio that will do the right thing"
>
> I was thinking the same thing today... Why would they show these
> horrible late seventies transfers of these awful fake TV movie things?
>
> But then this is the same Fox Movie Channel that shows an absolutely
> horrible print of THE SAND PEBBLES and I mean UNWATCHABLE! So, why
> should APES be any different?
>
> The FMC is a very strange channel. TCM they ain't, but at least every
> so often they show something rare. At least they do that.
>
> -- Rory
>  
>

Yeah I noticed that too. I also noticed that the actor who plays Caesar is the same actor who played Cornelius. LOL

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42 <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> I was watching BATTLE yesterday, and noticed for the first time that the
> mutant HQ looks suspiciously similar to the Ape Management set from
> CONQUEST. In fact, there's that one scene in CONQUEST (when you see Ape
> Management for the first time and the guard is bringing Caesar through
> it) where the camera pans up from the control panel in front of that one
> long window overlooking the large training area. I'll have to dig out my
> DVDs and double check, but it almost seems like Thompson repeated that
> camera technique in BATTLE to show what had happened to the very same
> place that was once the epicenter of the human's control over the ape
> population.
>
> Anyone else notice this?
>
>
> Chris L.

Damn! I thought it stood for No Apes Talking Overhere!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Wrong NATO--actually, in this case, it stands for the National Association of Theatre Owners.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Northern Atlantic Treaty Organization that what NATO stands for.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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The big news here for me is that this is the first case of POTA '68
kicking that Burton piece of crap out the door! I hope "alot" of Brits
show up, and take pictures, and post on web!

-- Rory

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

http://www.cinemaretro.com/index.php

The big news here for me is that this is the first case of POTA '68
kicking that Burton piece of crap out the door! I hope "alot" of Brits
show up, and take pictures, and post on web!

-- Rory

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I don't recall the flags on the canards the Icarus,

does anyone know?  II was looking at the TV shows

ship and though similar, it seemed quite a bit smaller

somehow. 

 

After watching the bumps I and looking at the pics I

now know what it is that bug me about Apemania's

Zira.  There's no hump pad on her shoulders under

her dress, and her neck is too long.  That and a

lack of make up on her skin makes it stick out

like a sore thumb.  Were some of the bumps

new.  I didn't recall seeing McDowall holding

a mic and commenting on Conquest in makeup.

Or the Boulle retrospective.  Were they added

for the Blu-Ray release or something? 

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That must be some backyard!

Take that Sammy Davis Jr.!

 

 

In a message dated 11/1/2009 3:05:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Anyway, Schaffner's been dead for twenty years now. Who knows who
lives in his house?

-- Rory

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The Mad Max Interceptor

at Planet Hollywood in

Australia is hanging from

the ceiling, but it's a

reproduction, not original.

 

 

In a message dated 11/1/2009 7:53:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, goathunter@... writes:

Planet Hollywood in San
Diego had bunches of props from that hanging unprotected on the
ceilings and walls.

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Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is Ape Crazy #6?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> I desperately need a scan of page 16 (which is the 2nd last comic strip page)
> appreciate if anyone can help
> ape crazy #6
>

Ape Crazy was a POTA fan magazine in the early '90s, by Mark And Tim Wasylyszyn:
http://fanlore.org/wiki/Ape_Crazy

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is Ape Crazy #6?
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@> wrote:
> >
> > I desperately need a scan of page 16 (which is the 2nd last comic
> strip page)
> > appreciate if anyone can help
> > ape crazy #6
> >
>