And 35MM is high definition, even more high definition than Blu-Ray.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> From the statement, "We are proud to present this screening of a glorious, pristine 35mm film print of the 1968 sci-fi classic starring Charlton Heston" it sounds like they are showing a 35mm print.
>
> But did you read: Presented in the original high definition 35mm!? And:? In response to current blu-ray screenings of Science Fiction films in Seattle...
> ?
> Sounds like it might be projected Blu-ray.? If not, what's "high definition 35mm"??? 35mm is 35mm.
>

>
> That's bizarre that Fox and Scott Frank didn't see eye to eye. He's their star writer. These other writers sound like hacks. But if Peter Chernin can get Oliver Stone back (currently doing "Wall Street 2" for Fox), I'm in.
>
>
>
> From: Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:15 PM
> To: POTA
> Subject: [pota] New Planet of the Apes Film Still in the Works
>
>
>
>
> http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62628
>

We don't totally discourage off topic posts. That's why your original post was put through. But when one post grows into a long thread where individual members are addressing other individual members instead of the whole group, not even bothering to put OT in the subject line, and other members start sending us private emails to complain; then we need to step in and do something about it.

As stated in the Group's Guidelines: "Please keep Off Topic posts brief and remember to put (OT) in the subject line" and "All posts and replies should be addressed to the group as a whole not to any specific individual". These are very simple and if everyone adheres to them there's no problem. We rather have 10 quality posts about POTA than 100 post about other subjects. Thanks.   

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> What that means is that Michael Whitty wouldn't have mind if it were a bit off topic.
> And what I mean by a "bit" is that a video projector would not only be beneficial to those who love movies in general but also to those who love Planet of the Apes movies. But whatever. Got the projector and it totally rocks. So I'm a happy camper. :o)
>
> Cheers.
> Al
>
>
>  
>

>
>
> We don't totally discourage off topic posts. That's why your original
> post was put through. But when one post grows into a long thread where
> individual members are addressing other individual members instead of
> the whole group, not even bothering to put OT in the subject line, and
> other members start sending us private emails to complain; then we need
> to step in and do something about it.
>
> As stated in the Group's Guidelines: "Please keep Off Topic posts brief
> and remember to put (OT) in the subject line" and "All posts and replies
> should be addressed to the group as a whole not to any specific
> individual". These are very simple and if everyone adheres to them
> there's no problem. We rather have 10 quality posts about POTA than 100
> post about other subjects. Thanks.
>
>

>

----- Original Message -----

From: jamesa1102

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 7:09 AM

Subject: [pota] Off Topic Posts

 

We don't totally discourage off topic posts. That's why your original post was put through. But when one post grows into a long thread where individual members are addressing other individual members instead of the whole group, not even bothering to put OT in the subject line, and other members start sending us private emails to complain; then we need to step in and do something about it.

As stated in the Group's Guidelines: "Please keep Off Topic posts brief and remember to put (OT) in the subject line" and "All posts and replies should be addressed to the group as a whole not to any specific individual". These are very simple and if everyone adheres to them there's no problem. We rather have 10 quality posts about POTA than 100 post about other subjects. Thanks.   

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:50 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Off Topic Posts

 

and other members start sending us private emails to complain

 

Who's "us"?  How many moderators are there in this group?  And why do people send "private messages" to complain?  Why can't everything be out in the open?  This kind of thing creeps me out.  Yahoo groups kind of creep me out.  People can be very creepy in the ways they don't like openness and frank talk, but prefer instead to operate in a kind of shadowy social intercourse.  Just one of the many things that happen that reminds me of how "Planet of the Apes" holds up a mirror to what people really are.

 

-- Rory

Awwwwww! Poor baby, do you want someone to kiss it and make it all better?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I stubbed my toe the other day. : (
>

There are a total of four moderators not including the group owner, Dave Pasco.

I personally get a lot of comments offline, most to my personal email and a few using the pota-owner@yahoogroups.com email. 90% to 95% of these are positive. They are typically comments, questions or compliments about the Group's features such as the Group website, Ape City Chronicles, etc. When I ask someone why they emailed me directly rather than posting to the message board, the response is usually, 'I didn't want to look stupid' or 'No one else is discussing this' or 'I rather just be a lurker'.  Personally I can't blame a new member for being a bit nervous about posting here. We are a very opinionated group and sometimes blow off a new person if they bring up something that has been previously been discussed.

For the complaints I've received the answer is usually that they didn't want to start a flame war with other members and were just following the group guidelines which state that all complaints should be directed at privately to the moderators rather than publically in the group.

As I said before, Off Topic posts are not totally discouraged, just please remember to add OT to the subject line and keep it brief. Thanks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>  
> Who's "us"?  How many moderators are there in this group?  And why do people send "private messages" to complain?  Why can't everything be out in the open?  This kind of thing creeps me out.  Yahoo groups kind of creep me out.  People can be very creepy in the ways they don't like openness and frank talk, but prefer instead to operate in a kind of shadowy social intercourse.  Just one of the many things that happen that reminds me of how "Planet of the Apes" holds up a mirror to what people really are.
>  
> -- Rory
>

>>Isn't that Billy Club? <<

>>Oops! Sorry, Chris! I missed that. I've corrected them. 8-) 

>>Thanks for sending those Chris! I never got around to them....and

>
> I agree in theory but the line;" other members e-mail to complain" well what are we in junior high. I cant stand the babys who complain at every little thing esp. in private like children. Thats very off putting and you will be on the verge of loosing members, especially the more mature ones,"never trust anyone under thirty". John M
>
>
>
>
> Wow!? Like you're my hero, John.? I'd also like to add that people who post something, then complain privately to the moderator(s) that they're not getting any attention or praise are also like little children.
> ?
> What I do and post is because I like it, not because I might get praised for it.
> ?
> -- Rory
>

>
> Taylor = George Clooney

Thanks William. I really like the Behind the Scenes pic of Heston and Linda Harrison at the oasis.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> dear group, found some photo goodies on ebay . from william burge
>

I think you make some very good points here. What's the point of doing a POTA film if the Apes don't talk? Or at least have one Ape who can talk.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I'm just speculating, but from Scott Frank's comments on the project, it sounded like he was playing down the "Apes" connection. He said he was not remaking "Conquest", he said there weren't going to be ape battles, he said there weren't even going to be talking apes. From a studio standpoint it probably doesn't make sense to reboot the marketable POTA and then not make it POTA. Perhaps they want to connect it more to the established series.

> I think the "Caesar" thing could work. I like the idea of following ape evolution chronologically, with centuries passing between installments (and increasing budgets if audiences dig the movies). Some fans expressed concerns that Frank's take wasn't "Apes" enough and maybe that's what Fox is trying to remedy.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> ?
> OK, so who today would make a good Taylor?
> ?
> -- Rory?
>

I didn't before but just went back and checked. Very cool!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42 <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
>
> BTW, did anyone else notice on page 22 of the BENEATH program you can see
> the crucified gorilla soldiers in the far background while the army is in
> the foreground?
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>

Dave doesn't take an active role in the group any more but when he did he posted under the name caesar_the_chimp.

And I too wish more members would post. But everyone is different and some are a bit more shy about it than others.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Does Dave Pasco post?  And if not, why?  Maybe I'm just getting old and perhaps going the way of Heston, but I can't recall this Dave Pasco.
>  
> I don't know what everyone is so afraid of.  Looking stupid?  You're human!  What do you expect?  Looking stupid doesn't mean you are stupid.  Albert Einstein probably looked stupid -- plenty of times!
>  
> I just wish more people would post.  It has been getting rather boring here of late.  I say just post.
>  
> -- Rory
>
>

To be fair, the Group Guidelines instruct people to bring all complaints directly to the moderators rather than air their grievances publically. I can't criticize anyone for merely doing what we asked them to do. So if you guys want to blame anyone, blame me.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Wow!? Like you're my hero, John.? I'd also like to add that people who post something, then complain privately to the moderator(s) that they're not getting any attention or praise are also like little children.
> ?
> What I do and post is because I like it, not because I might get praised for it.
> ?
> -- Rory
>

Ten years ago Hollywood was in remake mode. And it wasn't really remake mode, it was 'reimagining' mode. Talking a title, basic concept and maybe a character or two and then creating a whole new story.

Now the big deal is reboots. They are even going to reboot Spiderman and that franchise is less than 10 years old. But the thing with most reboots is that you usually have iconic characters (e.g. James Bond, Batman, Star Trek) and are just starting fresh with a new cast.

You would think that FOX would learn from the lessons of their two biggest franchises, Star Wars and Die Hard. They didn't remake or reboot them, in both cases they continued existing series with a new sequel (or prequel) but updated things enough to bring in a new audience.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Taylor = George Clooney
>
> But I don't see them doing a sequel to a 40 year old movie. They'll want to start from scratch, maybe with computer generated apes as Scott Frank suggested. I could see them doing a trilogy (which are popular) starting with the apes taking over in "Caesar", then a middle section, then maybe the finale called "Planet of the Apes" with a Zaius, a Cornelius. Maybe not even astronauts involved, since the space program isn't as far along as it seemed in 1968. I'm willing to go with the flow as long as it does justice to the ideas that POTA represented.
>
>
>

Wow! With the personal way you guys are taking this is it any wonder that some people are a bit hesitant about posting. And sometimes being a man (or really an adult) is know when not to say something.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
>
> >
> Thats because your a man, and you expect to be treated as such, and not be told to quite down at the risk of offending someone. If you dont offend someone then the point your making ain't worth printing anyway. But speaking your mind, telling the truth and being rational at the risk of pissing someone off are all signs of the femininzation of males in society. John M.
>

Crowe is 45. Roughly the same age as Heston when Planet was made.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> I would vote for Russell Crowe as Taylor - but he too is getting to old.  But at least he can act.
> - Scott B.
>

Thanks to our friends at Simain Scrolls, we pleased to offer an exclusive preview of the next issue. The preview is an interview with Drew Gaska of Blam! about their illustrated novel 'Conspirancy of the Planet of the Apes' to be published later this year.

The preview is in the Files section and can be downloaded here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/SS_PREV.pdf 

>
> That's because your a man, and you expect to be treated as such, and not be told to quite down at the risk of offending someone. If you dont offend someone then the point your making ain't worth printing anyway. But speaking your mind, telling the truth and being rational at the risk of pissing someone off are all signs of the femininzation of males in society. John M.
>
>
>
>
> Say what?? I think you need to review that last line there, John.? I think feminization has the opposite effect, unless you're Rosie O'Donnell.
> ?
> -- Rory
>

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> I picked George Clooney because he's so sexy. And his voice makes
> me melt like butter. Can you imagine him saying, "You're...Brent.
> Brent! How in the hell did you get here !"

> "The Wolfman". Makeup by Rick Baker. Music by Danny Elfman. You're
> going to trust those guys after what they did to POTA?

----- Original Message -----

From: Hunter Goatley

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:43 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: "Caesar" and Scott Frank

 

> I picked George Clooney because he's so sexy. And his voice makes
> me melt like butter. Can you imagine him saying, "You're...Brent.
> Brent! How in the hell did you get here !"

Yikes! I can't stand Clooney, mostly because of the way he talks....

> "The Wolfman". Makeup by Rick Baker. Music by Danny Elfman. You're
> going to trust those guys after what they did to POTA?

That thought had crossed my mind, too, but PotA2K1's problems were
much greater than the makeup and music....

Hunter

> There is nothing wrong with the make ups or the music, in my opinion. Rick's make up was/is GORGEOUS!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> -- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Barkley" <skintricks@> wrote:
> > There is nothing wrong with the make ups or the music, in my opinion. Rick's make up was/is GORGEOUS!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Taylor = George Clooney
>
> But I don't see them doing a sequel to a 40 year old movie. They'll want to start from scratch, maybe with computer generated apes as Scott Frank suggested. I could see them doing a trilogy (which are popular) starting with the apes taking over in "Caesar", then a middle section, then maybe the finale called "Planet of the Apes" with a Zaius, a Cornelius. Maybe not even astronauts involved, since the space program isn't as far along as it seemed in 1968. I'm willing to go with the flow as long as it does justice to the ideas that POTA represented.
>
>
>

To be fair, it is true that "Yes, Giorgio" is a terrible movie but every director has at least one bad film in their career.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Yeah, and Franklin Schaffner did "Yes, Giorgio". But both Schaffner and Stone won, ahem, Oscars for war movies. I wouldn't have anyone babysit a dead snake. I'd eat it.
>
>
>
> OK, there you go, folks -- Veetus just disrespected Frank Schaffner.? What kind of POTA fan is that?

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> And in his autobiography, Charlton Heston, that liberal weenie, called Stone "one of our best filmmakers".
> Quite disrespecting the heroes of our POTA stars, Mr. Haristas.
>
> As for Stone's drug use, that's well documented. But reportedly he's mellowed with age. But if Stone can't do it maybe it can serve as Andy Dick's directorial debut.
>
>

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

At John Chambers' memorial, Rick Baker called POTA2001 "a bad movie". He seemed kind of quiet and embarrassed as people talked about the original and how it inspired them, etc. John died so close to when POTA2001 came out (that and the original being inducted into the National Archive for posterity soon after it's release were ironic).

In "Cinefex" Baker also derided the remake of "Mighty Joe Young" he worked on. He calls a spade a spade. I think "Cat in the Hat" was the final straw and Baker took a long time off. But he loves the Universal Monsters so he had to do "Wolfman".

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff K.

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:09 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Baker and POTA 2001

 

  At John Chambers' memorial, Rick Baker called POTA2001 "a bad movie". He seemed kind of quiet and embarrassed as people talked about the original and how it inspired them, etc. John died so close to when POTA2001 came out (that and the original being inducted into the National Archive for posterity soon after it's release were ironic).

 In "Cinefex" Baker also derided the remake of "Mighty Joe Young" he worked on. He calls a spade a spade. I think "Cat in the Hat" was the final straw and Baker took a long time off. But he loves the Universal Monsters so he had to do "Wolfman".