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Group: pota Message: 57128 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57129 From: charles w Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57130 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57131 From: apecalypsenow Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57132 From: Kevin Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57133 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: OT (I guess) :Conquest Projection
Group: pota Message: 57134 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57135 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57136 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57137 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Conquest Projection
Group: pota Message: 57138 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57139 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57140 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57141 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57142 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57143 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57144 From: scott bosco Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57145 From: scott bosco Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57146 From: apecalypsenow Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57147 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57148 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57149 From: James Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57150 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57151 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57152 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Conquest Projection
Group: pota Message: 57153 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57154 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57155 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57156 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57157 From: apecalypsenow Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update - no BIG BUDGET
Group: pota Message: 57158 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57159 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57160 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57161 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Conquest Projection
Group: pota Message: 57162 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57163 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57164 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update - no BIG BUDGET
Group: pota Message: 57165 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: the Hughes brothers
Group: pota Message: 57166 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57167 From: rassmguy Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Love the homepage image, James.
Group: pota Message: 57168 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: the Hughes brothers - Frito and Jojo
Group: pota Message: 57169 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Anniversary Reminder
Group: pota Message: 57170 From: pazuzu3 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57171 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: New Apes and FOX!
Group: pota Message: 57172 From: scott bosco Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57173 From: William Burge Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: planet photos
Group: pota Message: 57174 From: James Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57175 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57176 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Conquest Projection
Group: pota Message: 57177 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57178 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57179 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 57180 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57181 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57182 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 57183 From: William Burge Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: happy 42nd anniversary planet of the apes
Group: pota Message: 57184 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57185 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57186 From: Mike R Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57187 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 57188 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Photos of Apes.
Group: pota Message: 57189 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 57190 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Photos of Apes.
Group: pota Message: 57191 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: happy 42nd anniversary planet of the apes [3 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 57192 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: OT: the restoration of "Metropolis"
Group: pota Message: 57193 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: OT: the restoration of "Metropolis"
Group: pota Message: 57194 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Photos of Apes.
Group: pota Message: 57195 From: William Burge Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: planet photo
Group: pota Message: 57196 From: rob reading Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Photos of Apes.
Group: pota Message: 57197 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Cameron popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57198 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Photos of Apes.
Group: pota Message: 57199 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 57200 From: scott bosco Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57201 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 57202 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 57203 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 57204 From: rassmguy Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 57205 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 57206 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Photos of Apes.
Group: pota Message: 57207 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57208 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57209 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: planet photos [4 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 57210 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Conquest Projection
Group: pota Message: 57211 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: the Hughes brothers - Frito and Jojo
Group: pota Message: 57212 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
Group: pota Message: 57213 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Check this out...
Group: pota Message: 57214 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Check it out . . .
Group: pota Message: 57215 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 57216 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Cameron popularity and other sci-fi (OT)
Group: pota Message: 57217 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57218 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Check this out...
Group: pota Message: 57219 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
Group: pota Message: 57220 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: the Hughes brothers - Frito and Jojo
Group: pota Message: 57221 From: James Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57222 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57223 From: William Burge Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: planet cast members
Group: pota Message: 57224 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: planet photo
Group: pota Message: 57225 From: Charles W. Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: DVD vs. Blu-Ray
Group: pota Message: 57226 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: planet photo
Group: pota Message: 57227 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: planet photo



Group: pota Message: 57128 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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According to Joe Russo's book Star Trek had nothing to do with POTA. The original film was approved by Zanuck based on the box office of Fantastic Voyage four weeks after that film opened. Star Trek was only on the air two weeks at that point, not long enough to make any impact. Plus in those days movies studios didn't approve films based on what was popular on TV.

Also, Star Trek was never a hit on network TV. It barely escaped cancellation in 1967 and was only renewed in the spring of 1968 because of letter writing campaign (which occurred long after POTA has opened). And Gunsmoke had nothing to with Star Trek's cancellation. Gunsmoke was a CBS series. Star Trek aired on NBC.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> False and False.
>
> Fantastic Voyage came out late Summer
> of '66. Star Trek, Fall of '66. They call it
> Development Hell for a reason. It could
> stay there forever. It may even be shot,
> edited, and shelved and never released!
> POTA didn't begin shooting until '67. So
> to say that the successes of these had no
> effect is just plain wrong. And Star Trek
> was a hit. Not as huge as it became, but
> it had a loyal following. It may have been
> picked up for the fourth season if it hadn't
> been for a Suit's wife who wanted her
> Gunsmoke back on the air. Sci Fi costs.
> Westerns are cheap. So even though the
> network was hit with an unprecedented letter
> campaign to not cancel Star Trek the writing
> was already on the wall.
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 57129 From: charles w Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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Is there any reason to keep the old Planet of the Apes DVD set if I buy the Blu-Ray? Any exclusives on the old set that were not migrated over?
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Group: pota Message: 57130 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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I keep my original box sets due to the fact that I don't have a blu-ray drive on my PC.
So if I ever want to capture DVD images on my PC, it'll have to be with my DVDs.
Al


From: charles w <briscofan@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 11:15:10 AM
Subject: [pota] Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray

 

Is there any reason to keep the old Planet of the Apes DVD set if I buy the Blu-Ray? Any exclusives on the old set that were not migrated over?


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Group: pota Message: 57131 From: apecalypsenow Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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Quite frankly, I just think STAR TREK is way too different from POTA for having influenced/affected it. I just think POTA could have virtually NO influences to begin with, apart all those seemingly-popular sci-fi books in the fifties. Nothing cinematic, even.

Since I had a surgery intervention in June (spinal herniation), and I spent my summer doing anything (LOL), I just purchased the STAR TREK ORIGINAL SERIES SEASON 1 and the DVD box-set of the first 5 movies. What can I say? Amazing, astonishing. I fully came to appreciate the real deal. But POTA is still millions of times ahead of it.


T.C.





--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> I always thought of you more as Harry Mudd to his Kirk;-)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> > Oh, I love to kid the Veetus. I'm Khan to his Kirk.
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 57132 From: Kevin Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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while I like Star Trek I find it strange that it is so often 'creditted'
as being the best and the most influential of SCI FI - I guess it is a
case of where you live - down here during the '60's and 70's Lost In
Space, Dr Who and a show called the Samurai were more influential on
kids than Star Trek.




>
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Group: pota Message: 57133 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: OT (I guess) :Conquest Projection
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Hey gang.

I did a little video test of Conquest running through my projector.

The video screen is about 6 feet wide from side to side. This is the projector that cost me $300 on ebay.

Now if you look closely at the screen during video close ups you can see lines on the screen. This is because the projector runs 800X600 resolution. Kinda of like Super VGA or TV resolution. Anything higher than this resolution would be HD. At least 720p HD. But from a distance the lines are hardly noticeable. Much like when you watch a boobtube TV. Lines are unnoticeable from a far.

 

Also the projector, I'm currently keeping in my bedroom because I have way too much furniture in my living room. Mostly wall units that will make it impossible for me to setup a decent home theater. My livingroom is quite small. But anyhow here it is....

 

www.potacollective.com/conquest_projection.mpg

 

Al

 

P.S. My LG Led Projector will soon be arriving by mail and that's the one I'll be mounting on the ceiling and aimed at the projector screen you'll see on the right side of this video. It's a long white rod near the ceiling you'll see as I pan around the room with the lights on. So once the LG projector is installed on the ceiling, it'll be aiming towards the right of this sceen (currently being used in this video) which by the way is a simple window shade. The LG is also 800X600 but much better quality because of the higher contrast and Led lighting. Once I have the LG completely setup, I'll make a better POTA projection test. Also forgive the quality of this video. Not the greatest camcorder on the planet. :o)

 

 


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Group: pota Message: 57134 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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Everything on the 35th Anniversary 2-disc DVD from 2004 is on the 2008 Blu-ray plus more.  The image is improved with truer color, less scratches and flaws and flicker, though I think the final shot is too bright.  I also think the Blu-ray DTS-Master HD soundtrack has better fidelity, but not the greater left/right stereo separation of the Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 audio of the DVD.
 
I'd still keep the standard DVD though because you never know where or when you might want to play the movie and you might not have a Blu-ray player.  Best thing is to put both discs in one case.
 
-- Rory



-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Feb 6, 2010 4:12 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray

 
I keep my original box sets due to the fact that I don't have a blu-ray drive on my PC.
So if I ever want to capture DVD images on my PC, it'll have to be with my DVDs.
Al


From: charles w <briscofan@yahoo. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 11:15:10 AM
Subject: [pota] Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray

 
Is there any reason to keep the old Planet of the Apes DVD set if I buy the Blu-Ray? Any exclusives on the old set that were not migrated over?


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Group: pota Message: 57135 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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"The Twilight Zone" and "Outer Limits" has had more influence than "Star Trek" on TV SF.  "Star Trek" is a kind of hybrid thing, not easily copied without being ripped off.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin <pellew@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Feb 6, 2010 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi

 
while I like Star Trek I find it strange that it is so often 'creditted'
as being the best and the most influential of SCI FI - I guess it is a
case of where you live - down here during the '60's and 70's Lost In
Space, Dr Who and a show called the Samurai were more influential on
kids than Star Trek.

>
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Group: pota Message: 57136 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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I don't understand why there needs to be a correlation between STAR TREK and POTA.  It's apples and oranges to me.  I love them both, but I see no need to mate the damn things!


-----Original Message-----
From: apecalypsenow <apecalypsenow@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Feb 6, 2010 5:27 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi

 
Quite frankly, I just think STAR TREK is way too different from POTA for having influenced/affected it. I just think POTA could have virtually NO influences to begin with, apart all those seemingly-popular sci-fi books in the fifties. Nothing cinematic, even.

Since I had a surgery intervention in June (spinal herniation), and I spent my summer doing anything (LOL), I just purchased the STAR TREK ORIGINAL SERIES SEASON 1 and the DVD box-set of the first 5 movies. What can I say? Amazing, astonishing. I fully came to appreciate the real deal. But POTA is still millions of times ahead of it.

T.C.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@ ...> wrote:
>
>
> I always thought of you more as Harry Mudd to his Kirk;-)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> > Oh, I love to kid the Veetus. I'm Khan to his Kirk.
> >
>

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Group: pota Message: 57137 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/6/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Conquest Projection
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Tried twice, couldn't get anything on that link.
 
So, Al, you get one projector and now you're getting another -- better one?  Did you waste your money on the $300 one?




-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Feb 6, 2010 9:16 pm
Subject: [pota] OT (I guess) :Conquest Projection

 
Hey gang.
I did a little video test of Conquest running through my projector.
The video screen is about 6 feet wide from side to side. This is the projector that cost me $300 on ebay.
Now if you look closely at the screen during video close ups you can see lines on the screen. This is because the projector runs 800X600 resolution. Kinda of like Super VGA or TV resolution. Anything higher than this resolution would be HD. At least 720p HD. But from a distance the lines are hardly noticeable. Much like when you watch a boobtube TV. Lines are unnoticeable from a far.
 
Also the projector, I'm currently keeping in my bedroom because I have way too much furniture in my living room. Mostly wall units that will make it impossible for me to setup a decent home theater. My livingroom is quite small. But anyhow here it is....
 
 
Al
 
P.S. My LG Led Projector will soon be arriving by mail and that's the one I'll be mounting on the ceiling and aimed at the projector screen you'll see on the right side of this video. It's a long white rod near the ceiling you'll see as I pan around the room with the lights on. So once the LG projector is installed on the ceiling, it'll be aiming towards the right of this sceen (currently being used in this video) which by the way is a simple window shade. The LG is also 800X600 but much better quality because of the higher contrast and Led lighting. Once I have the LG completely setup, I'll make a better POTA projection test. Also forgive the quality of this video. Not the greatest camcorder on the planet. :o)
 
 

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Group: pota Message: 57138 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: "Caesar" update
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 New York Magazine, which broke the news about the continuation of the "Caesar" project, reports that they are having trouble finding a director. They even talked to Kathryn Bigelow ("The Hurt Locker"), who might become the first woman to win the Best Director Oscar next month. But so far no takers. They are reportedly going down the food chain. Doesn't sound good. Bring back Scott Frank!
 
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Group: pota Message: 57139 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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My point exactly.  LA may be a major city,
but Hollywood is a small town, and the fans
aren't the only ones who gossip.  If the Suits
smell money, then they want a piece of the pie.
 
 
In a message dated 2/5/2010 8:42:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, johnmermigas@... writes:
Point being that all of the popular Sci-Fi that came out by the mid to late sixties were probably crossing each others paths and some influence or ideas might of been stolen or co-opted by one or the other. This happens all the time in music esp. at that time with all the competion with musical groups and who will come out with the "newest" sound.
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Group: pota Message: 57140 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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You're right!  I was thinking of this . . .
 
Gunsmoke was TV's No. 1 ranked show from 1957 to 1961 before slipping into a decline after expanding to an hour. In 1967, the show's 12th season, CBS planned to cancel the series, but widespread viewer reaction (including a mention in Congress and pressure from the wife of the head of programming at CBS) prevented its demise. The show continued on in a different time slot: early evening on Mondays instead of Saturday nights.
 
and this . . .
 

The threat of cancellation loomed during the show's second season.[8] The show's fanbase conducted an unprecedented letter-writing campaign, petitioning NBC to keep the show on the air.[9] NBC renewed the show, but moved it from primetime to the "Friday night death slot", and substantially reduced its budget.[10] Roddenberry reduced his direct involvement in Star Trek before the start of the season to protest the changed timeslot, and was replaced by Fred Freiberger.

The series was canceled in its third season, despite the protests of a renewed letter writing campaign. Marketing personnel of the network complained to management that the series' cancellation was premature. New techniques for profiling demographics of the viewing audience later showed that Star Trek had been highly profitable for advertisers. The revelation came too late to resume production of the series.

 
In a message dated 2/6/2010 9:34:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:
Also, Star Trek was never a hit on network TV. It barely escaped cancellation in 1967 and was only renewed in the spring of 1968 because of letter writing campaign (which occurred long after POTA has opened). And Gunsmoke had nothing to with Star Trek's cancellation. Gunsmoke was a CBS series. Star Trek aired on NBC.
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Group: pota Message: 57141 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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Another example today would be
Vampire stuff.  Everything is Vampire
this and Vampire that.  Now that they
have milked just about all they can,
they're moving on to werewolves!
 
In a message dated 2/5/2010 8:42:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, johnmermigas@... writes:
Point being that all of the popular Sci-Fi that came out by the mid to late sixties were probably crossing each others paths and some influence or ideas might of been stolen or co-opted by one or the other. This happens all the time in music esp. at that time with all the competion with musical groups and who will come out with the "newest" sound.
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20,000 Leagues Under The Sea
and Journey To The Center of The Earth
are apples and oranges too, but I can see
a connection there other than the same guy
wrote them both.  For that matter I see a
connection with The Time Machine, and
he didn't write that one.  But books aside
the Films are in a similar sci-fi style.
 
 
In a message dated 2/6/2010 11:15:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
I don't understand why there needs to be a correlation between STAR TREK and POTA.  It's apples and oranges to me.  I love them both, but I see no need to mate the damn things!
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Group: pota Message: 57143 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2010
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True.  Light Speed = Warp Speed.
Deflector Shields?  Star Wars stole
a lot.  At least they didn't have transporters.
POTA was WAY too unique to rip off, unless
you count Wookies.  And that Japanese abomination.
 
 
In a message dated 2/6/2010 11:11:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
"Star Trek" is a kind of hybrid thing, not easily copied without being ripped off.
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Group: pota Message: 57144 From: scott bosco Date: 2/7/2010
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The problem with stepping in sh*t is that you smell afterwards.
Scott B.

--- On Sun, 2/7/10, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
Subject: [pota] "Caesar" update
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 1:36 AM

 
 New York Magazine, which broke the news about the continuation of the "Caesar" project, reports that they are having trouble finding a director. They even talked to Kathryn Bigelow ("The Hurt Locker"), who might become the first woman to win the Best Director Oscar next month. But so far no takers. They are reportedly going down the food chain. Doesn't sound good. Bring back Scott Frank!
 

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Group: pota Message: 57145 From: scott bosco Date: 2/7/2010
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I agree.  If you go back further it was FORBIDDEN PLANET that had an influence on Roddenberry to to make STAR TREK - as the original OUTER LIMITS was stolen from by James Cameron in the case of TERMINATOR and AVATAR.
- Scott B.

--- On Sun, 2/7/10, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
Subject: [pota] Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 12:05 AM

 
"The Twilight Zone" and "Outer Limits" has had more influence than "Star Trek" on TV SF.  "Star Trek" is a kind of hybrid thing, not easily copied without being ripped off.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin <pellew@bigpond. com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, Feb 6, 2010 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi

 
while I like Star Trek I find it strange that it is so often 'creditted'
as being the best and the most influential of SCI FI - I guess it is a
case of where you live - down here during the '60's and 70's Lost In
Space, Dr Who and a show called the Samurai were more influential on
kids than Star Trek.

>

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Group: pota Message: 57146 From: apecalypsenow Date: 2/7/2010
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Please, no CGI Humanoid Ape. I want the real deal, make up and all.

T.C.



--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> The problem with stepping in sh*t is that you smell afterwards.
> Scott B.
>
> --- On Sun, 2/7/10, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
> Subject: [pota] "Caesar" update
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 1:36 AM
>
>
> Â
>
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>
> Â New York Magazine, which broke the news about the continuation of the "Caesar" project, reports that they are having trouble finding a director. They even talked to Kathryn Bigelow ("The Hurt Locker"), who might become the first woman to win the Best Director Oscar next month. But so far no takers. They are reportedly going down the food chain. Doesn't sound good. Bring back Scott Frank!
> Â
> Â http://nymag. com/daily/ entertainment/ 2010/02/planet_ of_the_apes_ kathryn_big..htmlbr> >
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Group: pota Message: 57147 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
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I told you this production will be on the level of the last couple AVP movies, or even worse, TDTESS remake!
 
WHY DOESN'T ANYONE LISTEN TO ME?!!!!
 
-- Rory



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2010 1:36 am
Subject: [pota] "Caesar" update

 
 New York Magazine, which broke the news about the continuation of the "Caesar" project, reports that they are having trouble finding a director. They even talked to Kathryn Bigelow ("The Hurt Locker"), who might become the first woman to win the Best Director Oscar next month. But so far no takers. They are reportedly going down the food chain. Doesn't sound good. Bring back Scott Frank!
 
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Group: pota Message: 57148 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/7/2010
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  Why is it an "influence" on Roddenberry but a theft by Cameron? Even Cameron says the only reason that lawsuit happened was because he didn't have the money at the time to fight it and his studio didn't want to bother backing him. He calls Harlan Ellison "a parasite who can kiss my ass".
 Maybe I'll watch those 2 "Outer Limits" in next few days and judge for myself.

Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi

 

I agree.  If you go back further it was FORBIDDEN PLANET that had an influence on Roddenberry to to make STAR TREK - as the original OUTER LIMITS was stolen from by James Cameron in the case of TERMINATOR and AVATAR.
- Scott B.

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Group: pota Message: 57149 From: James Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Blogs Alert for: "planet of the apes"

MIXFEED: DJ Fletch & Gorilla Zoe - Planet Of The Apes
By hB
DJ Fletch & Gorilla Zoe - Planet Of The Apes. Track List: 01. Intro 02. Where You From 03. Trap On Fire 04. Miro 05. Fuck U 06. Row Row Row 07. I Am Gorilla 08. Million Dollar Trap 09. On Fire 10. Look Like Money ...
MIXFEED - http://www.mixfeed.info/

Bad Guy Wins » Nobody Wants to Direct the New 'Planet of the Apes'
By BadGuy
It would seem that after watching the Planet of the Apes defeat and embarrass an established director like Tim Burton, people are apprehensive to step into the directors chair for the new film. Vulture is reporting that Kathryn Bigelow, ...
Bad Guy Wins - http://badguywins.com/

The BLAM! Blog: FAMILY
By Drew G.
I am the creator of Archaia's upcoming sci-fi comic series "Critical Millennium", lead author of the impending "Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes" illustrated novel, and writer/director of the "SPACE:1999" relaunch coming in fall ...
The BLAM! Blog - http://blamventures.blogspot.com/

 

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Group: pota Message: 57150 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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All of Planet seems to be brighter than the DVD version. On the other hand, Beneath seems to be a shade darker.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
> Everything on the 35th Anniversary 2-disc DVD from 2004 is on the 2008 Blu-ray plus more. The image is improved with truer color, less scratches and flaws and flicker, though I think the final shot is too bright.

>
> -- Rory
>

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Group: pota Message: 57151 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
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Everything is migrated over except the Mego commercial that was on Disc 2 of the 35th Anniversary DVD.

I'm curious, which old POTA DVD set do you have? The Evolution collection or The Legacy collection?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "charles w" <briscofan@...> wrote:
>
> Is there any reason to keep the old Planet of the Apes DVD set if I buy the Blu-Ray? Any exclusives on the old set that were not migrated over?
>

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Group: pota Message: 57152 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
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Right click on it and select "Save Target As":
 
After you've downloaded it, you should be able to get the file to play.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Tried twice, couldn't get anything on that link.
>
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Group: pota Message: 57153 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
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I have both discs in one case for each film. Part of the reason for that was that the disc holders for the Blu-Ray collection really sucked. The other reason is that I have kept the DVD versions. I have a five disc DVD player which allows me to play all five films in succession without having to change discs.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I'd still keep the standard DVD though because you never know where or when you might want to play the movie and you might not have a Blu-ray player. Best thing is to put both discs in one case.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 57154 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
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The problem is today most A-list directors are their own producers and not just hired hands. Thus, if they want to direct a POTA film, they'll want to do their own vision of POTA and not direct a script/concept that was developed by someone else.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> New York Magazine, which broke the news about the continuation of the "Caesar" project, reports that they are having trouble finding a director. They even talked to Kathryn Bigelow ("The Hurt Locker"), who might become the first woman to win the Best Director Oscar next month. But so far no takers. They are reportedly going down the food chain. Doesn't sound good. Bring back Scott Frank!
>
> http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/02/planet_of_the_apes_kathryn_big.htmlbr>>

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Group: pota Message: 57155 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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There is an interesting parallel to the POTA TV series. On of the chief complaints about that series was that the profiling demographics showed that the show did very poorly among viewers over 50. The POTA audience was mainly children, teenagers and young adults. At that time, that type of demographic profile was not wanted by advertisers.

However, over time things changed. Viewers over 50 became the group least wanted by advertisers while younger viewers became the most highly sought after. So the POTA series may well have lasted beyond 13 episodes had it been on several years later.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> New techniques for profiling demographics of the viewing audience later showed that Star
> Trek had been highly profitable for advertisers. The revelation came too late to resume          > production of the series.
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 57156 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/7/2010
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  With the economy the way it is, directors (and even movie stars) don't have the power they used to. And ultimately they're only as good as their box office. A franchise like POTA can recharge the box office batteries and give them the clout to make their projects. But Fox seems to be the most controlling studio and their franchises are not as popular as those of other studios.
 In a way, I think it would be easier to step in, because there's no where to go but up, like when they rebooted "Batman". They won't be compared to a great "last one", like Del Toro, who signed up to do "The Hobbit".
 I think Fox will have to make a decision. Either they back off and let the talent do it right, or they have another "Alien vs. Predator" or "Fantastic 4" on their hands that go nowhere.

From: jamesa1102
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:20 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Caesar" update

 

The problem is today most A-list directors are their own producers and not just hired hands. Thus, if they want to direct a POTA film, they'll want to do their own vision of POTA and not direct a script/concept that was developed by someone else.

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Group: pota Message: 57157 From: apecalypsenow Date: 2/7/2010
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I don't believe a big budgeted POTA movie is the way to go. Maybe a new TV series or an "indie" low budgeted author movie, featuring ingenuity and well crafted make up.

We need great and brilliant storytelling/screenplaying, not a big budgeted mess. Hollywood is no more what it used to be in 1968.
Give me a low budget and a skilled director, and that's the POTA movie we want. Social commentary, not explosions. Intriguing ideas, not A-list actors.


T.C.



--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> With the economy the way it is, directors (and even movie stars) don't have the power they used to. And ultimately they're only as good as their box office. A franchise like POTA can recharge the box office batteries and give them the clout to make their projects. But Fox seems to be the most controlling studio and their franchises are not as popular as those of other studios.
> In a way, I think it would be easier to step in, because there's no where to go but up, like when they rebooted "Batman". They won't be compared to a great "last one", like Del Toro, who signed up to do "The Hobbit".
> I think Fox will have to make a decision. Either they back off and let the talent do it right, or they have another "Alien vs. Predator" or "Fantastic 4" on their hands that go nowhere.
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 57158 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
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The economy in Hollywood is very good. 2009 was the biggest box office year of all time, over $10 billion in ticket sales.

The Batman reboot worked well not because the last film in the series was great but because it sucked. The same is true of the Star Trek reboot.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> With the economy the way it is, directors (and even movie stars) don't have the power they used to. And ultimately they're only as good as their box office. A franchise like POTA can recharge the box office batteries and give them the clout to make their projects. But Fox seems to be the most controlling studio and their franchises are not as popular as those of other studios.
> In a way, I think it would be easier to step in, because there's no where to go but up, like when they rebooted "Batman". They won't be compared to a great "last one", like Del Toro, who signed up to do "The Hobbit".
> I think Fox will have to make a decision. Either they back off and let the talent do it right, or they have another "Alien vs. Predator" or "Fantastic 4" on their hands that go nowhere.
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 57159 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/7/2010
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  That's what I said, the George Clooney Batman sucked so there was nowhere to go but up (hey, the director of "Up" can do "Caesar"!).
 Hollywood is doing well with the big FX pictures, but indies and the riskier films the "A" list wants to do are suffering. It's hard to get those greenlit (someone had to mortgage their house to get "Hurt Locker" made, while Hollywood pats itself on the back).
 The franchise flicks are a license to print money and can help one's bankability to do a "Hurt Locker".
 

From: jamesa1102
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 1:51 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Caesar" update

 

The economy in Hollywood is very good. 2009 was the biggest box office year of all time, over $10 billion in ticket sales.

The Batman reboot worked well not because the last film in the series was great but because it sucked. The same is true of the Star Trek reboot.


--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>
> With the economy the way it is,
directors (and even movie stars) don't have the power they used to. And ultimately they're only as good as their box office. A franchise like POTA can recharge the box office batteries and give them the clout to make their projects. But Fox seems to be the most controlling studio and their franchises are not as popular as those of other studios.
> In a way, I think it would
be easier to step in, because there's no where to go but up, like when they rebooted "Batman". They won't be compared to a great "last one", like Del Toro, who signed up to do "The Hobbit".
> I think Fox will have to make a
decision. Either they back off and let the talent do it right, or they have another "Alien vs. Predator" or "Fantastic 4" on their hands that go nowhere.
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 57160 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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Why is it an "influence" on Roddenberry but a theft by Cameron? Even Cameron says the only reason that lawsuit happened was because he didn't have the money at the time to fight it and his studio didn't want to bother backing him. He calls Harlan Ellison "a parasite who can kiss my ass".
 Maybe I'll watch those 2 "Outer Limits" in next few days and judge for myself.
I've seen them, and it's Cameron who's the parasite.  It's also obvious that he sold his soul to the devil a long time ago.  Go ask Linda Hamilton if you don't believe me, Veetus.



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Group: pota Message: 57161 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
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Right click on it and select "Save Target As":
 
After you've downloaded it, you should be able to get the file to play.



Yeah, that worked.
 
Well, all I can say is that this kind of thing would be a major investment for me, because I'd first want a projector that could display 1080p, then I'd want a good screen, one made of reflective materials.  I'd have to have a room dedicated to it, including the right kind of chairs and such, surround sound with good speakers and so on.  It would be a major undertaking.  For now, I'm happy with my plasma.
But, if you have to have a hobby, Al, this is a good one, but you've got a long way to go.
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Group: pota Message: 57162 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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So the POTA series may well have lasted beyond 13 episodes had it been on several years later.
I'm still trying to figure out what kept that awful "Logan's Run" TV show on as long as it did!
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Group: pota Message: 57163 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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All of Planet seems to be brighter than the DVD version. On the other hand, Beneath seems to be a shade darker.
I'm confused.  Are you saying PLANET is brighter on the standard DVD version?  I'd say the Blu-ray is brighter.  In fact, I have to turn down both brightness and contrast when I watch the PLANET Blu-ray, but Blu-ray (1080p) is generally brighter with everything.
 


 


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Group: pota Message: 57164 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
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I don't believe a big budgeted POTA movie is the way to go. Maybe a new TV series or an "indie" low budgeted author movie, featuring ingenuity and well crafted make up.

We need great and brilliant storytelling/ screenplaying, not a big budgeted mess. Hollywood is no more what it used to be in 1968.
Give me a low budget and a skilled director, and that's the POTA movie we want. Social commentary, not explosions. Intriguing ideas, not A-list actors.

T.C.

Hollywood is not the dream factory, but the factory of broken dreams.  (OK, I got that out of my system.)
 
Anyway, let's all try to keep perspective here and remember that the studio is Fox and Fox is what it's produced in the last decade.  The track record with APES is pretty bad.  Fox has run the ALIEN and PREDATOR franchises into the ground.  They're doing a bad job keeping X-MEN going.
 
Movies have pedigrees.  The original POTA had a very good one, the remake far less.  Today at Fox the studio seems populated by mongrels.  We'll most likely get a bastard child here.
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Group: pota Message: 57165 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
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OK, who saw THE BOOK OF ELI and thinks the Hughes brothers might be the right ones to tackle a new APES film?
 
I saw it and didn't think it anything special.  Most of it was OK, but the ending really sucked.
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Group: pota Message: 57166 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2010
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I have both discs in one case for each film. Part of the reason for that was that the disc holders for the Blu-Ray collection really sucked. The other reason is that I have kept the DVD versions. I have a five disc DVD player which allows me to play all five films in succession without having to change discs.
OK, now when was the last time you had a GO APE marathon, and when is the next time you're planning on doing it?
 
And just out of curiosity, has anyone here ever had a GO APE 2.0 marathon?  I mean has anyone ever watched all five movies, then watched all 14 TV episodes, then watched all 13 cartoon episodes -- IN ONE SITTING, only taking bathroom breaks?  I've never even tried such a thing.  I think I'd go nuts.


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Group: pota Message: 57167 From: rassmguy Date: 2/7/2010
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Group: pota Message: 57168 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/7/2010
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  The Hughes Bros. were on the roll call last time before Burton got the job. So was Robert Rodriguez, who is already rebooting their "Predator". Neither would be a top choice for me.
 Pierre Morel has a good first name for the job but is already working to reboot "Dune". The other two they mentioned, I dunno. "V For Vendetta" was OK, I guess.
 Kathryn Bigelow might be good ("Near Dark", "Strange Days") if she changes her mind. The guy who did "Let the Right One In" is an inspired choice. I hear that's good. So they aren't totally without imagination.
  It's hard to tell whether it's a sucky script or not, or if people are turning it down because of scheduling or other reasons. There's plenty of other directors out there that haven't been mentioned yet so we'll see how it goes. I'm actually surprised and pleased by some of the people they tried to get. Maybe they'll try for some other good ones.
 Let the right one in.

Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:49 PM
Subject: [pota] the Hughes brothers

 


OK, who saw THE BOOK OF ELI and thinks the Hughes brothers might be the right ones to tackle a new APES film?
 
I saw it and didn't think it anything special.  Most of it was OK, but the ending really sucked.

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Group: pota Message: 57169 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 2/7/2010
Subject: Anniversary Reminder
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Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1968.
 
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Group: pota Message: 57170 From: pazuzu3 Date: 2/7/2010
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No, that Mego commercial is on the blu ray of Apes as an Easter egg. Though I don't recall how I accessed it, I did once.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Everything is migrated over except the Mego commercial that was on Disc
> 2 of the 35th Anniversary DVD.
>
> I'm curious, which old POTA DVD set do you have? The Evolution
> collection or The Legacy collection?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "charles w" <briscofan@> wrote:
> >
> > Is there any reason to keep the old Planet of the Apes DVD set if I
> buy the Blu-Ray? Any exclusives on the old set that were not migrated
> over?
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 57171 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: New Apes and FOX!
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What is it with Fox. They were the studio to hate back in the Laserdisc days with their over pricing and poor quality. But to give them credit they were the first studio to sell movies on video back in 1977 with Magnetic Video. The reason they were forward thinking then was the personel at fox were probably alot of the oldtimers from the original Ape days, so their was some imagination and forward thinking going on. The 1980s came and the Apes were all but forgotten except for the playhouse video box set which introduced us to the Beneath debacle of poor or misplaced sound effects and that started some of the people on this web site and myself to start the complaining and meet the people at the video part of Fox ie: Bart P,Lewis L etc. What has been happining is that the glory days where writers and directors had more control in the way a movie got made with the exception of the money is gone. At Fox though it seems that the current game players and money men are stooges to managment. Fox I finnaly realized is run by the stupidist f$$$s that were ever placed on earth. Yeah James Cameron gives them his " every decade saving the studio" picture and Fox acts like their the biggest guys on the block. Im a forever optimist when it comes to Apes but I finnaly admit that Fox are incredible morons that wouldnt know a great idea if it fell on their lap, and when they do get it they are compelled to destroy it. Im ashamed to be apart of it with the talking on phones,writing letters, buying the Apes pictures many times over, and generally caring about my favorite films. If they cant see that a smart film, not an exploitive film(in the worst sense of the word)should be green lighted we must all forget it and dream about the old days when men not jackoff children ran the studio. Screw it up now Fox and you will be the biggest laughing stock Hollywood has ever seen. John M
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Group: pota Message: 57172 From: scott bosco Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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Roddenberry was probably inspired  by FORBIDDEN PLANET'S federation of exploratory spaceships, and standing in forced field tubs as a ship reduces from light speed and was inspired to create STAR TREK.
While Cameron took lingo, terms, and mechanical weapons from the novel STARSHIP TROOPERS and applied it to ALIENS and AVATAR.
Combined two original OUTER LIMITS episodes and created TERMINATOR.
Watched CLOSE ENCOUNTERS and made an underwater version, ABYSS, even re-creating the events as to how the alien objects are first seen - first a fly-by, but w/a sub instead of a plane.  There's even a small "sprite-like" one that flits about.  Ending with huge "Motherships"
I knew someone who worked on TITANIC and he told me how Cameron fought with the cinematographer; how he insisted on certain camera angles over those suggested by the director of photography.  Seems he was going home at night and studying camera angles from "A NIGHT TO REMEMBER" on the Criterion Laserdisc.
Avatar is nothing more than, yet another original episode of the OUTER LIMITS with FERNGULLY THE LAST RAIN FORREST and THE BATTLE FOR TERRA
He clever enough to side step the obvious by using technology/effects to throw people off the scent and being exposed to most.  Thing is the technology used for AVATAR is a simple advancement to what was first used on THE MUMMY about 10 years ago.  Without it being first used there he'd still not have his way.
- Scott B.

--- On Sun, 2/7/10, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
Subject: [pota] Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 7:10 PM

 

Why is it an "influence" on Roddenberry but a theft by Cameron? Even Cameron says the only reason that lawsuit happened was because he didn't have the money at the time to fight it and his studio didn't want to bother backing him. He calls Harlan Ellison "a parasite who can kiss my ass".
 Maybe I'll watch those 2 "Outer Limits" in next few days and judge for myself.
I've seen them, and it's Cameron who's the parasite.  It's also obvious that he sold his soul to the devil a long time ago.  Go ask Linda Hamilton if you don't believe me, Veetus.




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Group: pota Message: 57173 From: William Burge Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: planet photos
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dear group, found some new items on ebay first shot of ape masks and make up the second showing maurice evans in 1968 on the abc tv show on sunday nights the fbi-the third showing the cover of kim hunters cookbook printed in 1975. enjoy from william burge and the 4th photo of heston as george taylor for the aniversary of planet of the apes.

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FYI

 

Google Blogs Alert for: "planet of the apes"

DJ Fletch & Gorilla Zoe – Planet Of The Apes (2010 ...
By Malik
01. Intro 02. Where You From 03. Trap On Fire 04. Miro 05. Fuck U 06. Row Row Row 07. I Am Gorilla 08. Million Dollar Trap 09. On Fire 10. Look Like.
HiPHOPFORFREE.COM - http://www.hiphopforfree.com/

A 60's-70's Childhood: Planet Of The Apes
By Mangamax
Planet Of The Apes. Its odd - though i have fond memories of the concept, and the first two films are rightly regarded as classics, i only ever saw "Escape" at the cinema. No idea when or where i saw the others and my strongest memories ...
A 60's-70's Childhood - http://a60s-70schildhood.blogspot.com/

 

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Group: pota Message: 57175 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/8/2010
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Sorry I misunderstood.

But I still think that it is hard to get an A list director for a project where the A list director is just a hired hand. An A list director wants to do their own vision, not someone else's and certainly not the studio heads' vision.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> That's what I said, the George Clooney Batman sucked so there was nowhere to go but up (hey, the director of "Up" can do "Caesar"!).
> Hollywood is doing well with the big FX pictures, but indies and the riskier films the "A" list wants to do are suffering. It's hard to get those greenlit (someone had to mortgage their house to get "Hurt Locker" made, while Hollywood pats itself on the back).
> The franchise flicks are a license to print money and can help one's bankability to do a "Hurt Locker".
>
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 57176 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Conquest Projection
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I have lightyears to go but in the meantime I can at least enjoy the big screen while laying down on my bed.
And I'd have to admit, it's much more comfortable than sitting down. So for now it works out nicely.
 
Al
 


Yeah, that worked.
 
Well, all I can say is that this kind of thing would be a major investment for me, because I'd first want a projector that could display 1080p, then I'd want a good screen, one made of reflective materials.  I'd have to have a room dedicated to it, including the right kind of chairs and such, surround sound with good speakers and so on.  It would be a major undertaking.  For now, I'm happy with my plasma.
But, if you have to have a hobby, Al, this is a good one, but you've got a long way to go.

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Group: pota Message: 57177 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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No I'm saying that the Blu-Ray is brighter than the DVD. The DVD also has more muted colors than the Blu-Ray.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> All of Planet seems to be brighter than the DVD version. On the other hand, Beneath seems to be a shade darker.
>
> I'm confused. Are you saying PLANET is brighter on the standard DVD version? I'd say the Blu-ray is brighter. In fact, I have to turn down both brightness and contrast when I watch the PLANET Blu-ray, but Blu-ray (1080p) is generally brighter with everything.
>

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Group: pota Message: 57178 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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Yesterday to celebrate Planet's 42nd Anniversary.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> OK, now when was the last time you had a GO APE marathon, and when is the next time you're planning on doing it?
>

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Group: pota Message: 57179 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal
>
> Planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1968.
> Monday February 8, 2010
> All Day
> (This event repeats every year.)
>
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Group: pota Message: 57180 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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Cool! It was an Easter Egg on the 35th Anniversary DVD too.

Does anyone know how to access it on the Blu-Ray?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "pazuzu3" <mego73@...> wrote:
>
> No, that Mego commercial is on the blu ray of Apes as an Easter egg. Though I don't recall how I accessed it, I did once.
>

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Group: pota Message: 57181 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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In general any format that has a higher resolution will also have much better white balance more finely detailed color gradiations which in turn create a brighter picture. Just by default any higher resolution will perform better in every way, if mastered correctly. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> No I'm saying that the Blu-Ray is brighter than the DVD. The DVD also
> has more muted colors than the Blu-Ray.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> > All of Planet seems to be brighter than the DVD version. On the other
> hand, Beneath seems to be a shade darker.
> >
> > I'm confused. Are you saying PLANET is brighter on the standard DVD
> version? I'd say the Blu-ray is brighter. In fact, I have to turn down
> both brightness and contrast when I watch the PLANET Blu-ray, but
> Blu-ray (1080p) is generally brighter with everything.
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 57182 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
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Did you know that the Capital theater on B'way had one of the first high quality sound systems from the forties with about 10 speaker arrays, I forgot by who and the theater had a 5000 seat capacity. Man everything sucks now. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> > Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal
> >
> > Planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1968.
> > Monday February 8, 2010
> > All Day
> > (This event repeats every year.)
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 57183 From: William Burge Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: happy 42nd anniversary planet of the apes
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dear group, heres a photo of heston in new york city feb 68 at the showing of half a sixpence and the theatre that shows-- planet feb 8, 1968-- the four photos of the loews capitol theatre are dated 1960 but it gives you the ideal of what this great movie palace looked like . from william burge

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  Yeah, I agree with that. "A -list" directors want certain concessions, that's usually why they're on top, their movies stand out because the studio stooges have to play nice. It does look like studios are going for new directors and new stars (such as the new "Spiderman" and I just heard today Fox is going to reboot "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" from way back in 2005) to save money and headache. The franchises are the stars these days. So I think the "A"s will have to compromise more to stay in the game.

From: jamesa1102
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 7:33 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Caesar" update

 

Sorry I misunderstood.

But I still think that it is hard to get an A list director for a project where the A list director is just a hired hand. An A list director wants to do their own vision, not someone else's and certainly not the studio heads' vision.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>
> That's what I said, the
George Clooney Batman sucked so there was nowhere to go but up (hey, the director of "Up" can do "Caesar"!).
> Hollywood is doing well with the
big FX pictures, but indies and the riskier films the "A" list wants to do are suffering. It's hard to get those greenlit (someone had to mortgage their house to get "Hurt Locker" made, while Hollywood pats itself on the back).
>
The franchise flicks are a license to print money and can help one's bankability to do a "Hurt Locker".
>
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 57185 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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  I agree. I thought the "planet" blu-ray was the biggest disappointment because of the brightness. But they all look good.

From: jamesa1102
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 7:35 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray

 

No I'm saying that the Blu-Ray is brighter than the DVD. The DVD also has more muted colors than the Blu-Ray.


--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:

>
> All of Planet seems to be brighter than the DVD version.
On the other hand, Beneath seems to be a shade darker.
>
> I'm
confused. Are you saying PLANET is brighter on the standard DVD version? I'd say the Blu-ray is brighter. In fact, I have to turn down both brightness and contrast when I watch the PLANET Blu-ray, but Blu-ray (1080p) is generally brighter with everything.
>

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Group: pota Message: 57186 From: Mike R Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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I quite agree Scott, but don't forget the biggest thing Cameron "borrowed from" for Avatar, an old science fiction story called "Call Me Joe"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Me_Joe


>
> Avatar is nothing more than, yet another original episode of the OUTER LIMITS with FERNGULLY THE LAST RAIN FORREST and THE BATTLE FOR TERRA
>
> He clever enough to side step the obvious by using technology/effects to throw people off the scent and being exposed to most. Thing is the technology used for AVATAR is a simple advancement to what was first used on THE MUMMY about 10 years ago. Without it being first used there he'd still not have his way.
>
> - Scott B.


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Group: pota Message: 57187 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
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Their is a good web site for the capital theater that has alot of chatter its called www.cinematreasures.org/theater/522/ It shows that the last film showed their before the theater got demolished was 2001,before the critics demolished the film, haha how ironic Rory. I saw Planet their and The Odd couple and my recolections of it were amazing and im glad the pictures ive found proved what I saw. To repeat myself the late 50s to mid 70s were a great artisic time not seen since the 1920s and probably will never return. A Sad John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> Did you know that the Capital theater on B'way had one of the first high quality sound systems from the forties with about 10 speaker arrays, I forgot by who and the theater had a 5000 seat capacity. Man everything sucks now. John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal
> > >
> > > Planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1968.
> > > Monday February 8, 2010
> > > All Day
> > > (This event repeats every year.)
> > >
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 57188 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Photos of Apes.
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I went thru the websites photos and such, a great collection I must say, and I realized I have most of the original 8X10 black and whites with slugs(titles) that are shown here and elsewhere. I went into my collection and I have 130 Planet, 110 Beneath, 43 Escape, 33 Conquest,and 30 Battle, Black and Whites. About 240 color Lobby cards. Man where did I get the energy and money 40 years ago to do all this, and that aint including about 50 original posters... John M.
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Group: pota Message: 57189 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
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  "Happy Biiiiiiirthday, Miiiister Minister of Science and Chief Defender of the Faith,
    Happy Biiirthday to yoooooou!" 
                        - - - Marilyn Monroe, who knew Arthur Jacobs personally (not that way, get your mind out of the gutter!)
 

From: jamesa1102
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:01 AM
Subject: [pota] Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!

 


--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, pota@yahoogroups. com wrote:

>
> Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group
>
href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal">http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ cal
>
> Planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1968.
> Monday
February 8, 2010
> All Day
> (This event repeats every
year.)
>

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Group: pota Message: 57190 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Photos of Apes.
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I haven't even counted my 8x10b/w and color photos, the only thing that I know is that I have 4 photo albums of ape photos, not as vast as yours, but I'm getting there. I know exactly where you're coming from.  I think I have spent close to seven thousand dollars.

Kevin



-----Original Message-----
From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 3:53 pm
Subject: [pota] Photos of Apes.

 
I went thru the websites photos and such, a great collection I must say, and I realized I have most of the original 8X10 black and whites with slugs(titles) that are shown here and elsewhere. I went into my collection and I have 130 Planet, 110 Beneath, 43 Escape, 33 Conquest,and 30 Battle, Black and Whites. About 240 color Lobby cards. Man where did I get the energy and money 40 years ago to do all this, and that aint including about 50 original posters... John M.

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Group: pota Message: 57191 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: happy 42nd anniversary planet of the apes [3 Attachments]
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Hi, dear Ape friend around the Earth!
 
Congratulations for the PLANET OF THE APES 42th anniversary! In this moment, at home, I am watching PLANET OF THE APES on DVD!
 
Saulo Adami
From Brazil
 


--- Em seg, 8/2/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> escreveu:

De: William Burge <billburge48@...>
Assunto: [pota] happy 42nd anniversary planet of the apes [3 Attachments]
Para: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: billburge48@...
Data: Segunda-feira, 8 de Fevereiro de 2010, 17:47

 
dear group, heres a photo of heston in new york city feb 68 at the showing of half a sixpence and the theatre that shows-- planet feb 8, 1968-- the four photos of the loews capitol theatre are dated 1960 but it gives you the ideal of what this great movie palace looked like . from william burge



Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! + Buscados: Top 10 - Celebridades - Música - Esportes
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Group: pota Message: 57192 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: OT: the restoration of "Metropolis"
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 With all the bad vibes lately about a certain studio going in a seemingly wrong direction with a certain sci-fi movie we  kinda like, here's some good news from the world of classic film science-fiction. Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" is considered a cornerstone of the genre and has had a checkered history in it's distribution. Chop, chop here, chop, chop there, here a chop, there a chop; I don't think it's been shown in it's original version since 1927 in Germany. But recently tons of footage has been found, and I think there's enough to restore it to it's original length (210 minutes?).
 In any case, it is premiering and streaming online this Friday and Roger Ebert is mighty pleased. Here's the details:
 
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Group: pota Message: 57193 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: OT: the restoration of "Metropolis"
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Ahh Jeff always the optimist, your friend John M..

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> With all the bad vibes lately about a certain studio going in a seemingly wrong direction with a certain sci-fi movie we kinda like, here's some good news from the world of classic film science-fiction. Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" is considered a cornerstone of the genre and has had a checkered history in it's distribution. Chop, chop here, chop, chop there, here a chop, there a chop; I don't think it's been shown in it's original version since 1927 in Germany. But recently tons of footage has been found, and I think there's enough to restore it to it's original length (210 minutes?).
> In any case, it is premiering and streaming online this Friday and Roger Ebert is mighty pleased. Here's the details:
>
> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/43920
>
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Group: pota Message: 57194 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Photos of Apes.
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Yeah ,I have mine in photo albums also. I forgot that I have about 40 contact sheets..remarkable.. Sounds like a nice collection you have. I know now I wasnt the only nut...Take care..John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
>
> I haven't even counted my 8x10b/w and color photos, the only thing that I know is that I have 4 photo albums of ape photos, not as vast as yours, but I'm getting there. I know exactly where you're coming from. I think I have spent close to seven thousand dollars.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 3:53 pm
> Subject: [pota] Photos of Apes.
>
>
>
>
>
> I went thru the websites photos and such, a great collection I must say, and I realized I have most of the original 8X10 black and whites with slugs(titles) that are shown here and elsewhere. I went into my collection and I have 130 Planet, 110 Beneath, 43 Escape, 33 Conquest,and 30 Battle, Black and Whites. About 240 color Lobby cards. Man where did I get the energy and money 40 years ago to do all this, and that aint including about 50 original posters... John M.
>
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Group: pota Message: 57195 From: William Burge Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: planet photo
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dear group, to bad somebody doesnt have photos at the opening of planet of the apes 2-8-68 at the capitol new york city or any other theatre opening in the united states. that would be neat to see all the different maquees planet appeared. just wishful thinking. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 57196 From: rob reading Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Photos of Apes.
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.html The TV series has always been my main interest, starting with signed stuff, the make-up/behind the scenes stuff, which led to contact sheets and the transparencies. I have been lucky in the past with buying stuff, never paying the earth too often. The best part of it all is liberating it all and sharing with others what you are fortunate to have in your collections.

Rob R


To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: johnmermigas@...
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:40:37 +0000
Subject: [pota] Re: Photos of Apes.

 
Yeah ,I have mine in photo albums also. I forgot that I have about 40 contact sheets..remarkable. . Sounds like a nice collection you have. I know now I wasnt the only nut...Take care..John M.

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Group: pota Message: 57197 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Cameron popularity and other sci-fi
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 SILENCE HIM!
 You go too far!!
 I believe an indictment is in order.
 
 February 10th is "Terminator Day" when we learn the results of the clearance sale of the "Terminator" rights. I will view the "Outer Limits" episodes in question then and in due course render my decision.

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi

 

Roddenberry was probably inspired  by FORBIDDEN PLANET'S federation of exploratory spaceships, and standing in forced field tubs as a ship reduces from light speed and was inspired to create STAR TREK.
While Cameron took lingo, terms, and mechanical weapons from the novel STARSHIP TROOPERS and applied it to ALIENS and AVATAR.
Combined two original OUTER LIMITS episodes and created TERMINATOR.
Watched CLOSE ENCOUNTERS and made an underwater version, ABYSS, even re-creating the events as to how the alien objects are first seen - first a fly-by, but w/a sub instead of a plane.  There's even a small "sprite-like" one that flits about.  Ending with huge "Motherships"
I knew someone who worked on TITANIC and he told me how Cameron fought with the cinematographer; how he insisted on certain camera angles over those suggested by the director of photography.  Seems he was going home at night and studying camera angles from "A NIGHT TO REMEMBER" on the Criterion Laserdisc.
Avatar is nothing more than, yet another original episode of the OUTER LIMITS with FERNGULLY THE LAST RAIN FORREST and THE BATTLE FOR TERRA
He clever enough to side step the obvious by using technology/effects to throw people off the scent and being exposed to most.  Thing is the technology used for AVATAR is a simple advancement to what was first used on THE MUMMY about 10 years ago.  Without it being first used there he'd still not have his way.
- Scott B.

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Group: pota Message: 57198 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Photos of Apes.
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Yeah, I bought mine between 35-42 years ago when the average glossy was .50cents and a color lobby was a buck. The posters were all in the five dollar range now half of my posters sell for over $900 each. Inflation? The original Planet gets the big bucks...I was offered $1500 for the three sheet two years ago and he was selling it for $2500, I kept it. The original Planet and the Go Ape posters of all sizes is where you can make a killing. Suprisingly Battle seems to get some of the most dollars of the sequels, cant figure? Also color contact sheets from Planet(68) get about 20-50 bucks a piece. In general they all can get alot of money..John M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:
>
> The TV series has always been my main interest, starting with signed stuff, the make-up/behind the scenes stuff, which led to contact sheets and the transparencies. I have been lucky in the past with buying stuff, never paying the earth too often. The best part of it all is liberating it all and sharing with others what you are fortunate to have in your collections.
>
> Rob R
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> From: johnmermigas@...
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:40:37 +0000
> Subject: [pota] Re: Photos of Apes.
>
>
>
> Yeah ,I have mine in photo albums also. I forgot that I have about 40 contact sheets..remarkable.. Sounds like a nice collection you have. I know now I wasnt the only nut...Take care..John M.
>
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Group: pota Message: 57199 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
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I saw Planet their and The Odd couple and my recolections of it were amazing and im glad the pictures ive found proved what I saw.
THE ODD COUPLE played at Radio City Music Hall while 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY was at the Capital.  2001 was the last film to play there.  ODD COUPLE opened in June 1968 and played for like three months at Radio City, one of longest runs in the theatre's history (King Kong only played there for two weeks in '33!)
 
-- Rory



-----Original Message-----
From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 3:27 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!

 
Their is a good web site for the capital theater that has alot of chatter its called www.cinematreasures .org/theater/ 522/ It shows that the last film showed their before the theater got demolished was 2001,before the critics demolished the film, haha how ironic Rory. I saw Planet their and The Odd couple and my recolections of it were amazing and im glad the pictures ive found proved what I saw. To repeat myself the late 50s to mid 70s were a great artisic time not seen since the 1920s and probably will never return. A Sad John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@ ...> wrote:
>
> Did you know that the Capital theater on B'way had one of the first high quality sound systems from the forties with about 10 speaker arrays, I forgot by who and the theater had a 5000 seat capacity. Man everything sucks now. John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@ > wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, pota@yahoogroups. com wrote:
> > >
> > > Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group
> > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ cal
> > >
> > > Planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1968.
> > > Monday February 8, 2010
> > > All Day
> > > (This event repeats every year.)
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Group: pota Message: 57200 From: scott bosco Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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Excellent Mike - I didn't know about this short story.  Man, Cameron should be sued.
- Scott B.

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Mike R <mego73@...> wrote:

From: Mike R <mego73@...>
Subject: RE: [pota] Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 3:37 PM

 

I quite agree Scott, but don't forget the biggest thing Cameron "borrowed from" for Avatar, an old science fiction story called "Call Me Joe"

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Call_Me_Joe

>
> Avatar is nothing more than, yet another original episode of the OUTER LIMITS with FERNGULLY THE LAST RAIN FORREST and THE BATTLE FOR TERRA
>
> He clever enough to side step the obvious by using technology/effects to throw people off the scent and being exposed to most. Thing is the technology used for AVATAR is a simple advancement to what was first used on THE MUMMY about 10 years ago. Without it being first used there he'd still not have his way.
>
> - Scott B.


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Group: pota Message: 57201 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
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My mind is going, it had something to do with the moving of The Forum to Radio city at the time so the Odd Couple was played over their.I mixed it up. Hey I was only 8 years old..John M

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
>
> I saw Planet their and The Odd couple and my recolections of it were amazing and im glad the pictures ive found proved what I saw.
>
> THE ODD COUPLE played at Radio City Music Hall while 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY was at the Capital. 2001 was the last film to play there. ODD COUPLE opened in June 1968 and played for like three months at Radio City, one of longest runs in the theatre's history (King Kong only played there for two weeks in '33!)
>
> -- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 57202 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
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Rory, where did you or are you living on Long Island. I lived in Bayshore from1960-1991 then moved to Holtsville..John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> My mind is going, it had something to do with the moving of The Forum to Radio city at the time so the Odd Couple was played over their.I mixed it up. Hey I was only 8 years old..John M
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I saw Planet their and The Odd couple and my recolections of it were amazing and im glad the pictures ive found proved what I saw.
> >
> > THE ODD COUPLE played at Radio City Music Hall while 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY was at the Capital. 2001 was the last film to play there. ODD COUPLE opened in June 1968 and played for like three months at Radio City, one of longest runs in the theatre's history (King Kong only played there for two weeks in '33!)
> >
> > -- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 57203 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
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After Rory corrected me I did some digging and Planet of the Apes at the Capital Theater did more money during the same legth of time than the all time money grosser Gone with the Wind and adjusting for inflation. Man, Apes rule...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> My mind is going, it had something to do with the moving of The Forum to Radio city at the time so the Odd Couple was played over their.I mixed it up. Hey I was only 8 years old..John M
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I saw Planet their and The Odd couple and my recolections of it were amazing and im glad the pictures ive found proved what I saw.
> >
> > THE ODD COUPLE played at Radio City Music Hall while 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY was at the Capital. 2001 was the last film to play there. ODD COUPLE opened in June 1968 and played for like three months at Radio City, one of longest runs in the theatre's history (King Kong only played there for two weeks in '33!)
> >
> > -- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 57204 From: rassmguy Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
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I'm in Farmingdale!


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
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> Rory, where did you or are you living on Long Island. I lived in Bayshore from1960-1991 then moved to Holtsville..John M.
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Group: pota Message: 57205 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
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A friend of mine lives in Farmindale , I forgot exactly its under a railroad tressell down south of Main St. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
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> I'm in Farmingdale!
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@> wrote:
> >
> > Rory, where did you or are you living on Long Island. I lived in Bayshore from1960-1991 then moved to Holtsville..John M.
> >
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Group: pota Message: 57206 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/8/2010
Subject: Re: Photos of Apes.
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you too. Take care of yourself, me. I got go through another snowstorm.



-----Original Message-----
From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 5:40 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Photos of Apes.

 
Yeah ,I have mine in photo albums also. I forgot that I have about 40 contact sheets..remarkable. . Sounds like a nice collection you have. I know now I wasnt the only nut...Take care..John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
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>
> I haven't even counted my 8x10b/w and color photos, the only thing that I know is that I have 4 photo albums of ape photos, not as vast as yours, but I'm getting there. I know exactly where you're coming from. I think I have spent close to seven thousand dollars.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@ ...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 3:53 pm
> Subject: [pota] Photos of Apes.
>
>
>
>
>
> I went thru the websites photos and such, a great collection I must say, and I realized I have most of the original 8X10 black and whites with slugs(titles) that are shown here and elsewhere. I went into my collection and I have 130 Planet, 110 Beneath, 43 Escape, 33 Conquest,and 30 Battle, Black and Whites. About 240 color Lobby cards. Man where did I get the energy and money 40 years ago to do all this, and that aint including about 50 original posters... John M.
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Group: pota Message: 57207 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
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Agreed.  POTA should always be makeup.
I would have made an exception when Kim
was still alive.  I wouldn't minded if they put
her in stick on blue appliances and then used
computers to erase the edges or give it more  
flexibility, as long as it didn't look like they
had.  Just so she could have taken them
off between takes.  If she would have done it.
 
 
In a message dated 2/7/2010 9:40:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, apecalypsenow@... writes:
Please, no CGI Humanoid Ape. I want the real deal, make up and all.
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Group: pota Message: 57208 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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Wow! 
Thanks for making me feel old.
 
 
In a message dated 2/8/2010 11:04:53 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:
Yesterday to celebrate Planet's 42nd Anniversary.
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Group: pota Message: 57209 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: planet photos [4 Attachments]
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Only the back is a cook book.
The first half of the book is a
bio, and tells how and from who
she got the recipes. Also has
some good Apes pics & stories.
 
 
In a message dated 2/8/2010 7:30:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, billburge48@... writes:
kim hunters cookbook printed in 1975
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Group: pota Message: 57210 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Conquest Projection
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I'm going to take the plunge soon.
The only real problem being the
fireplace, and not wanting exposed
wires on the bricks.  That and the
room being wider than long, hence
the short throw projector.  I may
need to switch to a wireless surround
as well, but only if I can't work around it.
 
 
In a message dated 2/8/2010 11:01:00 A.M. Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:
I have lightyears to go but in the meantime I can at least enjoy the big screen while laying down on my bed.
And I'd have to admit, it's much more comfortable than sitting down. So for now it works out nicely.
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Group: pota Message: 57211 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: the Hughes brothers - Frito and Jojo
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I never saw it.  I heard it was like the third
Matrix movie.  A few action scenes to suck
you into a long preachy drawn out film, with
a moral.  I'll wait for it to be on TV when I'm
bored and nothing else worth watching is on.
 
 
In a message dated 2/7/2010 9:35:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
"V For Vendetta" was OK, I guess.
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Group: pota Message: 57212 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: "Caesar" update
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Yeah, because of all the nepotism in
Hollywood a lot of really good scripts
don't get made and a lot of crappy ones
do.  This will all change when they all
fall into the sea.  I can dream can't I?
 
In a message dated 2/7/2010 5:15:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
Hollywood is doing well with the big FX pictures, but indies and the riskier films the "A" list wants to do are suffering. It's hard to get those greenlit (someone had to mortgage their house to get "Hurt Locker" made, while Hollywood pats itself on the back).
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Group: pota Message: 57213 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Check this out...
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Look now they're talking about a
Rodriguez Reboot . . .
 
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Group: pota Message: 57214 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Check it out . . .
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Now they're talking about a
Rodriguez Reeboot . . .
 
 
 
 
 
T
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Group: pota Message: 57215 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
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  Speaking of which, according to www.thedigitalbits.com , the restored "Metropolis" will have it's U.S. premiere in New York in April, with DVD around the end of the year.

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:42 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!

 


I saw Planet their and The Odd couple and my recolections of it were amazing and im glad the pictures ive found proved what I saw.
THE ODD COUPLE played at Radio City Music Hall while 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY was at the Capital.  2001 was the last film to play there.  ODD COUPLE opened in June 1968 and played for like three months at Radio City, one of longest runs in the theatre's history (King Kong only played there for two weeks in '33!)
 
-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 57216 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Cameron popularity and other sci-fi (OT)
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  The Terminator rights went to the hedge fund that financed the sale to the previous owners. Another one for the money men. I guess I've got some "Outer Limits" episodes to watch.
 
 

From: Jeff K.
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Cameron popularity and other sci-fi

 

 SILENCE HIM!
 You go too far!!
 I believe an indictment is in order.
 
 February 10th is "Terminator Day" when we learn the results of the clearance sale of the "Terminator" rights. I will view the "Outer Limits" episodes in question then and in due course render my decision.
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Group: pota Message: 57217 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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I think the main problem with this one would be that
Jupiter has no surface.  Being a Gas Giant it wouldn't.
And even it's core would he covered in an ocean of
liquid metallic hydrogen, with such extremes of heat,
pressure and electro magnetize, I doubt even an
artificial body could survive.  Anyone remember
that probe built like a tank that the Russians sent
to Venus?  At least they got a couple of pictures.   
 
Call Me Joe (1957) is a science fiction story by Poul Anderson about an attempt to explore the surface of the planet Jupiter using remotely controlled artificial life-forms. It focuses on the feelings of the disabled man who operates the artificial body.
 
In a message dated 2/8/2010 3:22:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, mego73@... writes:
 


I quite agree Scott, but don't forget the biggest thing Cameron "borrowed from" for Avatar, an old science fiction story called "Call Me Joe"

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Call_Me_Joe

>
> Avatar is nothing more than, yet another original episode of the OUTER LIMITS with FERNGULLY THE LAST RAIN FORREST and THE BATTLE FOR TERRA
>
> He clever enough to side step the obvious by using technology/effects to throw people off the scent and being exposed to most. Thing is the technology used for AVATAR is a simple advancement to what was first used on THE MUMMY about 10 years ago. Without it being first used there he'd still not have his way.
>
> - Scott B.


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Group: pota Message: 57218 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Check this out...
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I believe Rodriguez said no as well.
 
Al


From: "LordTZer0@..." <LordTZer0@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 1:42:31 AM
Subject: [pota] Check this out...

 

 
Look now they're talking about a
Rodriguez Reboot . . .
 

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Group: pota Message: 57219 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Apes popularity and other sci-fi
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> Excellent Mike - I didn't know about this short story.� Man, Cameron
> should be sued.

Just because these things exist doesn't mean Cameron knew about them
or had read them/seen them/whatever.

Cameron is a target because of the movie's success. As he has been
for every one of his movies.

>> Thing is the technology used for AVATAR is a simple advancement
>> to what was first used on THE MUMMY about 10 years ago. Without
>> it being first used there he'd still not have his way.

Simple advancement? I think not. Have you even seen AVATAR?

And the work in THE MUMMY wouldn't have existed with Cameron's T2
advances in CGI....

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 57220 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: the Hughes brothers - Frito and Jojo
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I thought " From Hell" with Johnny Depp and a great supporting cast was a pretty good film by the Hughes brothers. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
> >
> I never saw it. I heard it was like the third
> Matrix movie. A few action scenes to suck
> you into a long preachy drawn out film, with
> a moral. I'll wait for it to be on TV when I'm
> bored and nothing else worth watching is on.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/7/2010 9:35:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> veetus@... writes:
>
> "V For Vendetta" was OK, I guess.
>
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Group: pota Message: 57221 From: James Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Blogs Alert for: "planet of the apes"

:: The Playlist ::: 'Planet of the Apes' Prequel Is Directorial ...
By Gabe Toro
Development continues on the Fox lot for another film in the "Planet of the Apes" series. The studio held fast on the desire to let the franchise cool after the 2001 relaunch won the series few new fans, so this latest attempt is a ...
:: The Playlist :: - http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/

PLANET OF THE APES GLITCHES
They can be technical goofs, continuity errors, or anything that makes you scratch your head and say, "Huh?" In this case, the glitches are from the television series Planet of the Apes, not the films of the same name....

Planet of the Apes Glitches by Whatsits Galore – http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/glitch/apesglitch.html/span>

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Group: pota Message: 57222 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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OK I spent a couple of hours last nite searching for this Easter Egg on the Planet Blu-Ray disc and couldn't find it. I even went to some websites that review discs and will tell you where the Easter Eggs are and they say there are no Easter Eggs on the POTA Blu-Ray: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1804/planetapes1968.html".

Has anyone else found this Easter Egg on the Blu-Ray and remember the path?


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Cool! It was an Easter Egg on the 35th Anniversary DVD too.
>
> Does anyone know how to access it on the Blu-Ray?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "pazuzu3" mego73@ wrote:
> >
> > No, that Mego commercial is on the blu ray of Apes as an Easter egg.
> Though I don't recall how I accessed it, I did once.
> >
>

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Group: pota Message: 57223 From: William Burge Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: planet cast members
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dear group, just thinking about planet of the apes cast members left are linda harrison-nova--wright king--dr galen--buck kartalian-juluis --dianne stanley-stewart--lou wagner-lucius and from production william creber set design . from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 57224 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: planet photo
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:

>
> dear group, to bad somebody doesnt have photos at the opening of planet of the apes 2-8-68 at the capitol new york city or any other theatre opening in the united states. that would be neat to see all the different maquees planet appeared. just wishful thinking. from william burge
>

P.S. It's a fake.

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Group: pota Message: 57225 From: Charles W. Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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Meant to ask if any features in the original DVD set (not the Ultimate collection- apehead) was any different from the blu-ray set.  I'd like to sell the original set now that the Blu-Ray is out.
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Group: pota Message: 57226 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: planet photo
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Very Good Job! The marquee writting of pota was in orange I think, ask Rory Im probably wrong. John M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@> wrote:
> >
> > dear group, to bad somebody doesnt have photos at the opening of
> planet of the apes 2-8-68 at the capitol new york city or any other
> theatre opening in the united states. that would be neat to see all the
> different maquees planet appeared. just wishful thinking. from william
> burge
> >
>
>
>
> P.S. It's a fake.
>
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Group: pota Message: 57227 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/9/2010
Subject: Re: planet photo
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OK Maybe this one is better.

P.S. Also a fake.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
>
> Very Good Job! The marquee writting of pota was in orange I think, ask Rory Im probably wrong. John M.

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