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The old Movie Star News store was great if you had all day to spend looking through boxes of miscellaneous photos. I confess I did that more than once. He had lots of original TV & movie photos for sale. You just had to have patience.

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 2/12/2010 11:18:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

The only thing I ever remember ordering from Movie Star News was stills.

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See: Psycho starring Anne Heche for the perfect example of how NOT to remake a movie word for word....

 

Bruce.

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/13/2010 4:53:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Why not use the same script and do a

shot for shot remake?  What would be

the point?  You'd have the same movie!

 

In a message dated 2/12/2010 12:56:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@yahoo. com writes:

what if they "reproduced" Roddy's Cornelius and Kim's Zira with CGI...? if they hired actors to do the motion capture who had studied their movements and hired voice actors that sounded very similar....? and used the original costume and makeup designs..... all like the original but all computerized. ...!

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On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:33 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@...> wrote:

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
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That, of course, should have said "I think that's a good explanation. I didn't mean to just say it's an explanation. :)

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I might remember that place. Leaving the city to get to the 59th st bridge we passed a place around their because I was at Colony Records on 49th and 8th or was it 9th and stopped in a movie place that was well lit with I think a cashier up a level if memmory serves, cant be sure alot of places in california (when I visited) look like that but I might have been their and got some black and whites...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I remember back in the early 80's there was a movie memorabilia shop I think on 8th ave and maybe 44th? anybody remember that store?
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________

That's where I went and got my first Lobby Card Set for BENEATH.  It was right after my mom and I went to the Toy Fair as an invite under MEGO for their POTA line.  Great memory. - Scott B. --- On Sun, 2/14/10, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote: From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!! To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 1:44 PM   The old Movie Star News store was great if you had all day to spend looking through boxes of miscellaneous photos. I confess I did that more than once. He had lots of original TV & movie photos for sale. You just had to have patience.   Bruce   In a message dated 2/12/2010 11:18:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Haristas@aol. com writes: The only thing I ever remember ordering from Movie Star News was stills.

My interpretation was the same thing that Scott said: it was a final act
of anger and disgust, "giving" the baby to Hasslein. Look at her body
language as she's doing it, and then Stevie's reaction. And although it
made no sense in the adaptation, "Animals have no graveyard Stevie" is
still a pretty chilling line.

I really can't imagine anyone pondering the fact that an autopsy would
reveal it wasn't really her baby. And again, if you're OK with talking
apes, time travel, and the fact that Milo was able to salvage Taylor's
ship, you really shouldn't be getting hung up on details like autopsy,
DNA, etc.


Chris L.

I think that Zira knew that they would NOT be coming back alive - the
Government WANTED her baby ALIVE - she took the other new born chimp as
a ruse to make the Government think that it was HERS - by throwing it
over the edge she was denying the Government the opportunity to study
her child even though it was NOT her child

KJ

>

> where did you get the one for you Rarieties disc?

I don't remember. Mike R., maybe? Someone sent me all the Apes Mego
commercials (they're all on the Rarities disc).

Hunter

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I've always wondered who that

first photo's supposed to be.

Maybe standins.

 

 

In a message dated 2/14/2010 3:16:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, billburge48@... writes:

[Attachment(s) from William Burge included below]

dear group, found some more planet photos. enjoy from william burge

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Yeah, that and bad writing.

Anyone have the book handy?

That might have a clue.

 

In a message dated 2/14/2010 9:10:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, billhollweg@... writes:

"You wanted my baby, here have it now."

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Perhaps in realizing her

husband was dead and

she was dying it was a

final act of not caring.

 

In a message dated 2/14/2010 6:37:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:

My interpretation was the same thing that Scott said: it was a final act
of anger and disgust, "giving" the baby to Hasslein.

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How many infants survive 3 slugs from a .38?

Seriously.  I'm pretty sure she wasn't thinking

that a 20 foot fall to the water was going to help.

 

 

In a message dated 2/13/2010 11:58:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, darios@... writes:

in her last dying moments she did what
little she could to try to save it's life, despite the imaginable odds
against any hope of it surviving being dumped like that.

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The Real Reason?

Bad Writing!

I always felt it was

kind of like, "Oh, you

want my baby so bad?

Well then, here!"  Sort

the evolved ape's version

of flinging poop! 

 

In a message dated 2/13/2010 3:56:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, johnmermigas@... writes:

After all these years my adult children and my wife and even myself always ask "what was the real reason Zira dumped the imposter ape baby in the sea?"

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It was called Stephen Sally's  and I think he's still there-but the store is never open anymore.You have to make an appointment.

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 2/14/2010 3:08:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

I remember back in the early 80's there was a movie memorabilia shop I think on 8th ave and maybe 44th? anybody remember that store?

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The 8x10 or 11x14 lobby cards? All I ever bought in MSN were B/W photos. I got the 8x10 of the astronauts in the liferaft from APES in there.

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 2/14/2010 7:37:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, digitalcinema@... writes:

 

That's where I went and got my first Lobby Card Set for BENEATH.  It was right after my mom and I went to the Toy Fair as an invite under MEGO for their POTA line.  Great memory. - Scott B. --- On Sun, 2/14/10, stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com> wrote: From: stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!! To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 1:44 PM   The old Movie Star News store was great if you had all day to spend looking through boxes of miscellaneous photos. I confess I did that more than once. He had lots of original TV & movie photos for sale. You just had to have patience.   Bruce   In a message dated 2/12/2010 11:18:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Haristas@aol. com writes: The only thing I ever remember ordering from Movie Star News was stills.

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Yeah I went their in the early 90s and picked up some black and whites of Planet that I didnt have. It was in the middle of around 44th st and I had to call to make appoitment. It was a dark little place very small like a deli. I got what I needed though. When I asked for them the guy thought I worked for a publication because he didnt sell much to the public..John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> It was called Stephen Sally's and I think he's still there-but the store
> is never open anymore.You have to make an appointment.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2010 3:08:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
> I remember back in the early 80's there was a movie memorabilia shop I
> think on 8th ave and maybe 44th? anybody remember that store?
>

There's a couple of places in Hollywood that sold 8by10 of the apes series. I forgot the names of the places, but I know that there  were located on Hollywood Blvd.

-----Original Message-----
From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 10:38 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!

 

Yeah I went their in the early 90s and picked up some black and whites of Planet that I didnt have. It was in the middle of around 44th st and I had to call to make appoitment. It was a dark little place very small like a deli. I got what I needed though. When I asked for them the guy thought I worked for a publication because he didnt sell much to the public..John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
> It was called Stephen Sally's and I think he's still there-but the store
> is never open anymore.You have to make an appointment.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2010 3:08:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
> I remember back in the early 80's there was a movie memorabilia shop I
> think on 8th ave and maybe 44th? anybody remember that store?
>

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The only good part in that whole movie was the 5 minute spacecraft recovery.

 

In a message dated 2/14/2010 7:37:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:

 

My interpretation was the same thing that Scott said: it was a final act
of anger and disgust, "giving" the baby to Hasslein. Look at her body
language as she's doing it, and then Stevie's reaction. And although it
made no sense in the adaptation, "Animals have no graveyard Stevie" is
still a pretty chilling line.

I really can't imagine anyone pondering the fact that an autopsy would
reveal it wasn't really her baby. And again, if you're OK with talking
apes, time travel, and the fact that Milo was able to salvage Taylor's
ship, you really shouldn't be getting hung up on details like autopsy,
DNA, etc.

Chris L.
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

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Thats a classic story.. Thanks for sharing..   NYC DAVE... --- On Sun, 2/14/10, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote: From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> Subject: [pota] Winter Olympics Memories To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 1:38 PM   The Winter Olympics started this weekend and it really brought back some memories for me. The biggest memory is from 1980 and the USA hockey team. The "Miracle" team as they came to be called was already on their way to at least a bronze medal when they went up against the Soviet team. This was a long standing grudge match because the US team hadn't beaten the Soviet team in the past several Olympics. The game was scheduled on a Friday afternoon at 4:30. I remember sitting with my father who turned the TV on to ABC only to find out the network heads had decided to not show the game live but on tape delay later that night in prime time. Instead the local 4:30 movie came on. The movie that day was Escape from the Planet of the Apes. So I sat there enjoying Escape while my father just cursed and gripped under his breath for 90 minutes.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:22 AM, <John1155@...> wrote:

The only good part in that whole movie was the 5 minute spacecraft recovery.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:10 AM, David Giwner <bikergator25@...> wrote:

Thats a classic story.. Thanks for sharing.. NYC DAVE... --- On Sun, 2/14/10, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote: From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> Subject: [pota] Winter Olympics Memories To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 1:38 PM The Winter Olympics started this weekend and it really brought back some memories for me. The biggest memory is from 1980 and the USA hockey team. The "Miracle" team as they came to be called was already on their way to at least a bronze medal when they went up against the Soviet team. This was a long standing grudge match because the US team hadn't beaten the Soviet team in the past several Olympics. The game was scheduled on a Friday afternoon at 4:30. I remember sitting with my father who turned the TV on to ABC only to find out the network heads had decided to not show the game live but on tape delay later that night in prime time. Instead the local 4:30 movie came on. The movie that day was Escape from the Planet of the Apes. So I sat there enjoying Escape while my father just cursed and gripped under his breath for 90 minutes.

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You really think that my brother? John M..

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, John1155@... wrote:
>
> The only good part in that whole movie was the 5 minute spacecraft
> recovery.
>
>

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If the 11x14 or 8x10 lobbys were without the borders their should be a 9th card with the title and some poster art(done mostly with 11x14s). When they come with the border or slug or title and copyright on the bottom their authentic. Thats for lobbys , for black and whites if you buy them without the slug and border with the title and copyright information they are reproductions. Movie star news did alot of them. Even though their sharp they are reproductions and not worth anything on the market persee. Black and white glossys should have a border and title and for newspapers and television have a description of the photo on the bottom, or if the black and white has a border all around with a black oval in a corner with a number scratched in they are authentic also not repros. I learned the hard way believe me. John M..

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> It was the 11x14 set w/out the bottom border title.
> - Scott B.
>
> --- On Mon, 2/15/10, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 10:14 AM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
> The 8x10 or 11x14 lobby cards? All I ever bought in MSN were B/W photos. I got the 8x10 of the astronauts in the liferaft from APES in there.
> Â
> Bruce
> Â
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: PofTAfan@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:07 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!

 

There's a couple of places in Hollywood that sold 8by10 of the apes series. I forgot the names of the places, but I know that there  were located on Hollywood Blvd.

-----Original Message-----
From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@ yahoo.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 10:38 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!

 

Yeah I went their in the early 90s and picked up some black and whites of Planet that I didnt have. It was in the middle of around 44th st and I had to call to make appoitment. It was a dark little place very small like a deli. I got what I needed though. When I asked for them the guy thought I worked for a publication because he didnt sell much to the public..John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
> It was called Stephen Sally's and I think he's still there-but the store
> is never open anymore.You have to make an appointment.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2010 3:08:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
> I remember back in the early 80's there was a movie memorabilia shop I
> think on 8th ave and maybe 44th? anybody remember that store?
>

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You really think that my brother? John M..

A lot of APES fans feel this way about ESCAPE, even though most serious critics will tell you it's the best of the sequels.  But ESCAPE doesn't have that vital element that seems so essential to many APES fans, that being,,,, GORILLAS WITH RIFLES CHASING HUMANS.

 

-- Rory

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No,LOL.I just like the spaceship

 

In a message dated 2/15/2010 6:31:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, johnmermigas@... writes:

 

You really think that my brother? John M..

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, John1155@... wrote:
>
> The only good part in that whole movie was the 5 minute spacecraft
> recovery.
>
>

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DID CAESAR CHANGE THE FUTURE?  article by Patrick Michael Tilton

Holy Mothership!!!!  How I do NOT want to read this!

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 5:39 pm
Subject: [pota] PLANET OF THE APES - new magazines out this month

 

PLANET OF THE APES - new magazines out this month

 

This is an exciting month for POTA fans

as 3 new POTA related magazine/fanzines are now available

These are the first new POTA products of this new decade. 

 

APE CHRONICLES 47 and 48 are now available for order

as well as FORBIDDEN ZINE #1

 

We appreciate the involvement from those in the ape community and need to support to keep these projects happening.

 

To order any issues of Ape Chronicles you can send payment through paypal to evelynstocki@ hotmail.com

 

Ape Chronicles 47 and 48 are $9.99 each (which also includes shipping for Canada and USA)

If overseas please add $5.00 per order for airmail shipping costs

 

To order copies of the amazing full color Forbidden Zine #1 you can send payment through paypal to: 

mswhitty@dodo. com.au

 

Forbidden Zine #1 is $20.00 which includes airmail worldwide.  You don't want to miss this one!

 

Forbidden Zone completely in color - the first POTA magazine ever made 100% in color

Ape Chronicles 47 and 48 are both a huge 90 pages each with special color covers and high quality paper stock - they look like books!

 

More info on these new products and cover images at the fan club website at

www.PlanetOfTheApes FanClub.com

 

 

#47 ARTICLES INCLUDE:   90 pages / full color cover

New cover artwork by Neil T. Foster

THE SECRET SCROLLS - new original 3 page comic strip by Michael Whitty and Neil T. Foster

PARTY OF THE APES by Jeff Krueger - Apemania photos from California party

RICARDO MONTALBAN - Life story, biography and filmography

RICH HANDLEY - INTERVIEW (author of TImeline of the POTA)

ASTRO APES - 1974 POTA Toys

HOW WOULD YOU RE-WRITE PLANET OF THE APES?  Opinion Column

TIMELINE APELINE ALPHA by Tiziano Caliendo

ERIC GREENE - INTERVIEW

APORNAS PLANET - Foreign POTA magazines from the 1970s

GREAT MYSTERIES OF HUMAN EVOLUTION

PONDERING EVOLUTION

DOES "PLANET OF THE APES" PROMOTE  ATHIESM?

ROB MORGANBESSER - INTERVIEW

"FINIS" - PLANET OF THE APES TV SHOW - ORIGINAL FAN FICTION

JACK WARD - INTERVIEW

BROKENSEA AUDIO "POTA" ADAPTATION - CHAPTER 3 SCRIPT

ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES - BIRTHDATES & CALENDAR

#48 ARTICLES INCLUDE:   90 pages / full color cover

New cover artwork by Maz Adams

NEW COMIC STRIP - "PLANET OF THE APES - THE TRUTH" Chapters 1-4 by Robin Medford & Terry Hoknes

CHARLTON HESTON - Life story, biography and filmography

DID CAESAR CHANGE THE FUTURE?  article by Patrick Michael Tilton

BILL BLAKE - INTERVIEW

GLEN SCHEETZ - INTERVIEW AND PHOTOS

TIM PARATI - INTERVIEW

PATRICK MICHAEL TILTON - INTERVIEW

MAZ ADAMS - INTERVIEW & ARTWORK

EL PLANETA DE LOS MONOS - In depth article and photo gallery of Foreign 1970s POTA Magazines

BROKENSEA AUDIO "POTA" ADAPTATION - CHAPTER 4 SCRIPT

CONQUEST FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES - BIRTHDATES & CALENDAR

Larry Edmunds Bookstore  and Hollywood Book and Poster are the places my friend Greg and I used to go to buy One Sheets and 8 x 10s in Hollywood.  We'd have to wait for Comic Con to get stuff from Jerry Ohlinger. 

 

Jeff B

Let's not forget Eddie Brandt's Saturday Matinee.  That's where I got my first PLANET pressbook, which at the time was a fantastic find (mid-seventies).

 

There was an episode of "The Wonder Years" where they go to a drive-in to see PLANET.  In the concession stand area are posters to APES films, these were got for the show at Eddie Brandt's.

 

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barkley <skintricks@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!

 



Larry Edmunds Bookstore  and Hollywood Book and Poster are the places my friend Greg and I used to go to buy One Sheets and 8 x 10s in Hollywood.  We'd have to wait for Comic Con to get stuff from Jerry Ohlinger. 

 

Jeff B

----- Original Message -----

From: PofTAfan@aol. com

To: pota@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:07 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!

 

There's a couple of places in Hollywood that sold 8by10 of the apes series. I forgot the names of the places, but I know that there  were located on Hollywood Blvd.

-----Original Message-----
From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@ yahoo.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 10:38 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!

 

Yeah I went their in the early 90s and picked up some black and whites of Planet that I didnt have. It was in the middle of around 44th st and I had to call to make appoitment. It was a dark little place very small like a deli. I got what I needed though. When I asked for them the guy thought I worked for a publication because he didnt sell much to the public..John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, stenosaurus@ ... wrote:
>
> It was called Stephen Sally's and I think he's still there-but the store
> is never open anymore.You have to make an appointment.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2010 3:08:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
> I remember back in the early 80's there was a movie memorabilia shop I
> think on 8th ave and maybe 44th? anybody remember that store?
>

I was'nt crying, LOL, just curious since like Rory said Escape is everybodys darling. From Mermigas to Maiani...Take Care..

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, John1155@... wrote:
>
> No,LOL.I just like the spaceship
>
>
> In a message dated 2/15/2010 6:31:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> johnmermigas@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> You really think that my brother? John M..
>
> --- In _pota@..._ (mailto:pota@yahoogroups.com) , John1155@
> wrote:
> >
> > The only good part in that whole movie was the 5 minute spacecraft
> > recovery.
> >
> >
>

I videotaped that episode on Beta, got it somewhere..John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > There was an episode of "The Wonder Years" where they go to a drive-in to see PLANET. In the concession stand area are posters to APES films, these were got for the show at Eddie Brandt's.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>

Back in 1971 I went to Escape for the first time without my parents at the Brentwood theater. My friends were on line so I cut. As usual the line were around the corner. All the Apes films and the 73-74 festivals I atteneded at at no time was it not packed for atleast the first few weeks.. When I went to school to study film, I learned that it was common practice to keep figures close to the vest because simply, the Taxman! Years later with the Jaws and Star wars mass opinings and when films got very very expensive studios bragged what they made back moniterialy basically not to look foolish and to keep people coming and that continues to this day. I said this on another post a while back but a proffesor who had friends at some studios including Fox had told me in confidence that alot of films and this pertainded to "all the Apes films" made a hell of alot more than published figures. Fox said that the Apes im total made about 90-100 million when in reality it was closer to a billion in '74 dollars.. Thats why ill always be a cynic..Love Taylor...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, John1155@... wrote:
>
> No,LOL.I just like the spaceship
>
>
> In a message dated 2/15/2010 6:31:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> johnmermigas@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> You really think that my brother? John M..
>
> --- In _pota@..._ (mailto:pota@yahoogroups.com) , John1155@
> wrote:
> >
> > The only good part in that whole movie was the 5 minute spacecraft
> > recovery.
> >
> >
>

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Was Movie Star News in Union Square? I remember buying the lobby cards for Beneath at a place in Union Square in the late '70s.

Does anyone remember a place on 8th Avenue in the upper 50s? I bought a bunch of B&W stills from Planet there. They were $1 a piece.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> The old Movie Star News store was great if you had all day to spend looking
> through boxes of miscellaneous photos. I confess I did that more than
> once. He had lots of original TV & movie photos for sale. You just had to have
> patience.
>
> Bruce
>

Then you might like this:
http://www.potamediaarchive.com/EPTR.htm

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, John1155@... wrote:
>
> No,LOL.I just like the spaceship
>
>

It was on 14st then moved to 18th st. in the 80s. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Was Movie Star News in Union Square? I remember buying the lobby cards
> for Beneath at a place in Union Square in the late '70s.
>
> Does anyone remember a place on 8th Avenue in the upper 50s? I bought a
> bunch of B&W stills from Planet there. They were $1 a piece.
>
>

Their most likely original but when you have the complete set of 8 11x14s it came with a ninth poster lobby that identified the set as Beneath..,Escape.., the other three ape movies all had titles and or borders...John M. P.S. They rairly made copies of lobbys only bandw glossys...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> But those 8x10/11x14 lobbies without the white strip w/credits on the bottom are also originals, right? I have one or two BENEATH like that I bought in the 70's and they don't appear to be dupes.
>
> Bruce
>
>
>

And now, though they have a great selection and I do recommend the place, they sell mostly dupe photos. GOOD photos but dupes nonetheless. The days of good and inexpensive original APES photos for sale is over.

 

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 16, 2010 11:57 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!!

 

It was on 14st then moved to 18th st. in the 80s. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@ ...> wrote:
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>
> Was Movie Star News in Union Square? I remember buying the lobby cards
> for Beneath at a place in Union Square in the late '70s.
>
> Does anyone remember a place on 8th Avenue in the upper 50s? I bought a
> bunch of B&W stills from Planet there. They were $1 a piece.
>
>

The lady who ran the place Mrs. Claw, I forgot her first name said she had a ton of Planet bandw photos with titles but she would only make copies since they became scarce. That was in 1980, she passed away I think and her bruiser sons took over. The guys over at Ohlingers(Batcave) used to call her "The Claw". I remember Jerry Ohlinger always with a cigar and a donut I think and the place smelled like a locker but he had great stuff at one time. Out in Bayshore was a smaller version of his store, and I think they owned or was involved with a small theater called the Encore on Main st. I saw Planet their ,bad print, and The Kids are alright with a missing reel. Auy vey.. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
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>
> And now, though they have a great selection and I do recommend the place, they sell mostly dupe photos. GOOD photos but dupes nonetheless. The days of good and inexpensive original APES photos for sale is over.
>
> Bruce
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I was in one of my wife works the night shift moods when i wrote that.I do enjoy watching all the Planet movies but i like the first movie the most.I really didn't care for the remake of planet of the apes.The apes makeup was pretty cool tho.Have a good one,John

 

In a message dated 2/16/2010 7:04:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, johnmermigas@... writes:

 

I was'nt crying, LOL, just curious since like Rory said Escape is everybodys darling. From Mermigas to Maiani...Take Care..

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, John1155@... wrote:
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> No,LOL.I just like the spaceship
>
>
> In a message dated 2/15/2010 6:31:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> johnmermigas@ ... writes:
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>
> You really think that my brother? John M..
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> --- In _pota@..._ (mailto:pota@yahoogroups. com) , John1155@
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> > The only good part in that whole movie was the 5 minute spacecraft
> > recovery.
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I may have some of these.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:

the sound man at the theatre where I work told me that studios sell sound effects collections....some from distinctive movies like Braveheart and Amadeus......

I looked up the 20th Century Fox collection and if you click on the sample sound bar...right around the middle is the unmistakable sound of the taylor's ship right before it crashes into the water.....

it would be interesting to see if there are any other Ape noises on it.....but I ain't payin 600 bucks to find out!!!

You can open a PDF file to see the track list......but it 's all generic.....but I bet at least some of them like "Frightened Crowd" or "Flame Thrower" or "soldiers crossing bridge"....were used in APES....

http://www.sound-ideas.com/20th.html"

Tim

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All the sound effects in the APES movies are from the Fox Library.  Most are probably on those discs, but, yeah, $600 to find out and own them?  Unless you're going to use them in something -- doesn't make much sense, but I'm glad to see they've been preserved.  Just another example of how -- if Fox wanted to spend the money -- they could do complete re-mixing of these films for excellent 5.1 surround.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2010 1:28 pm
Subject: [pota] Fox sounds

 

the sound man at the theatre where I work  told me that studios sell sound effects collections. ...some from distinctive movies like Braveheart and Amadeus..... .

I looked up the 20th Century Fox collection and if you click on the sample sound bar...right around the middle is the unmistakable sound of the taylor's ship right before it crashes into the water.....

it would be interesting to see if there are any other Ape noises on it.....but I ain't payin 600 bucks to find out!!!

You can open a PDF file to see the track list......but it 's all generic..... but I bet at least some of them like "Frightened Crowd" or "Flame Thrower" or "soldiers crossing bridge"....were used in APES....

http://www.sound- ideas.co m/ 20th.html"

Tim

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EXACTLY.....John M..

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> All the sound effects in the APES movies are from the Fox Library. Most are probably on those discs, but, yeah, $600 to find out and own them? Unless you're going to use them in something -- doesn't make much sense, but I'm glad to see they've been preserved. Just another example of how -- if Fox wanted to spend the money -- they could do complete re-mixing of these films for excellent 5.1 surround.
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many but not all are available on then CD boxed set of "THE FANTASY
WORLDS of IRWIN ALLEN"

KJ

Haristas@... wrote:

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> All the sound effects in the APES movies are from the Fox Library.
> Most are probably on those discs, but, yeah, $600 to find out and own
> them? Unless you're going to use them in something -- doesn't make
> much sense, but I'm glad to see they've been preserved. Just another
> example of how -- if Fox wanted to spend the money -- they could do
> complete re-mixing of these films for excellent 5.1 surround.
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On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:20 PM, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:

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dear group, found a photo showing roddy mcdowell as galen from the cbs tv series 1974 from ebay . enjoy from william burge

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Rob R
 

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TGIF!!! This week's installement of APE CITY CHRONICLES is now available.

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--- On Fri, 2/19/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote: From: William Burge <billburge48@...> Subject: planet photos To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: billburge48@... Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 1:14 PM dear group, heres some more ape photos from william burge

Enjoy!

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2010/02/18/comic-book-legends-revealed-248/

Rich

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Her husband Irving Claw was the one who managed pinup queen Bettie Page's career I think. Now Movie Star News is ALL reprint photos.

 

Jerry Ohlinger's  Store in Bayshore was run by the guy who ran The Batcave in NYC. I don't think it lasted too long. If you saw a 16MM print of PLANET there it was probably the print I bought and sold back to them.

 

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 2/16/2010 3:17:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, johnmermigas@... writes:

The lady who ran the place Mrs. Claw, I forgot her first name said she had a ton of Planet bandw photos with titles but she would only make copies since they became scarce. That was in 1980, she passed away I think and her bruiser sons took over. The guys over at Ohlingers(Batcave) used to call her "The Claw". I remember Jerry Ohlinger always with a cigar and a donut I think and the place smelled like a locker but he had great stuff at one time. Out in Bayshore was a smaller version of his store, and I think they owned or was involved with a small theater called the Encore on Main st. I saw Planet their ,bad print, and The Kids are alright with a missing reel. Auy vey.. John M.

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The British lobby cards (8x10) were printed on very thin paper. I have one from CONQUEST I bought on eBay.

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 2/16/2010 3:51:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, digitalcinema@... writes:

 

Mine are on heay weight paper much like cards outside the U.S., buy they are the same as the American Screen set. - Scott --- On Tue, 2/16/10, stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com> wrote: From: stenosaurus@ aol.com <stenosaurus@ aol.com> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Happy 42nd Anniversary Planet of the Apes!!! To: pota@yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 12:09 PM   But those 8x10/11x14 lobbies without the white strip w/credits on the bottom are also originals, right? I have one or two BENEATH like that I bought in the 70's and they don't appear to be dupes.   Bruce

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First, in regard to your personal and inaccurate attack on me (which would have caused this post to have been deleted had it been an attack on anyone else), I have always been an advocate on respecting the canon of the film series. And a very vocal advocate.

Second, I think you misunderstand my point about revisionism, I was not referring to Taylor but to the other astronauts, such as Burke & Virdon, being assigned military ranks by fans. My point about Taylor was that it was a continuity error and thus inaccurate to say that Heston played Colonel Taylor on a DVD wrap for Planet.

As far as your other points, placing Ape City near NYC has nothing to do with Beneath. In Planet, Taylor finds the Statue after only a short ride. Cornelius' map resembles the NYC area. To say that a character is holding the map sideways and ignoring that the Forbidden Zone is repeatedly referred to as 'our eastern desert' is revisionism, not the other way around.

Also, both the time loop and the two timelines theory can both be considered 'revisionism' since neither was part of the plot of Planet. So to say that one is because you disagree with it and the other is not is just not fair.

Now if you want to have a respectful discussion about these issues, great I look forward to it. But if you want continue to indulge in personal attacks, any further posts will be deleted.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> So now I find out you're against revisionism in the POTA series, James? Has the world turn upside down? Haven't I been railing against this very same thing for years when it comes to PLANET vs. the rest of the series, but always found you to be one of the biggest purveyors of it? It's never bothered me to refer to Taylor as "Colonel" before, but it sure bugs the hell out of me to say Ape City has to be somewhere unrealistically close to New York City so as to make sense out of the sloppiness of BENEATH's topographical nonsense, BUT THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BOTHER YOU or that you insist we wouldn't have PLANET if there wasn't ESCAPE first! That PLANET requires accepting a time loop revisionism that doesn't even allow a classic motion picture its own dignity.
>
> Madness! Madness!
>
>

I would also like to add that I think that whether or not Taylor was written & portrayed as a military officer in Planet goes to the core of the character and thus far more affects the nature of the story the filmmakers were telling in Planet than the location of Ape City. Whether it is close to NYC or Boston or Washington or Chicago or Dallas does not intrinsically change the story in any way.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> First, in regard to your personal and inaccurate attack on me (which
> would have caused this post to have been deleted had it been an attack on anyone else), I
> have always been an advocate on respecting the canon of the film series.
> And a very vocal advocate.
>
> Second, I think you misunderstand my point about revisionism, I was not
> referring to Taylor but to the other astronauts, such as Burke & Virdon,
> being assigned military ranks by fans. My point about Taylor was that it
> was a continuity error and thus inaccurate to say that Heston played
> Colonel Taylor on a DVD wrap for Planet.
>
> As far as your other points, placing Ape City near NYC has nothing to do
> with Beneath. In Planet, Taylor finds the Statue after only a short
> ride. Cornelius' map resembles the NYC area. To say that a character is
> holding the map sideways and ignoring that the Forbidden Zone is
> repeatedly referred to as 'our eastern desert' is revisionism, not the
> other way around.
>
> Also, both the time loop and the two timelines theory can both be
> considered 'revisionism' since neither was part of the plot of Planet.
> So to say that one is because you disagree with it and the other is not
> is just not fair.
>
> Now if you want to have a respectful discussion about these issues,
> great I look forward to it. But if you want continue to indulge in
> personal attacks, any further posts will be deleted.
>

In Planet, Taylor finds the Statue after only a short ride. Cornelius' map resembles the NYC area. To say that a character is holding the map sideways and ignoring that the Forbidden Zone is repeatedly referred to as 'our eastern desert' is revisionism, not the other way around.

Dr. Zaius says in PLANET, referring to Taylor's statement, that "a ship from outer space sank in an inland sea of our eastern desert," therefore the "inland sea," which Cornelius later calls "dead lake" (so let's not get into an argument over what constitutes a lake or a sea but simply acknowledge it as the body of water we see at the beginning of PLANET), is also part of this eastern desert.

 

Ok, fine... then the ocean that the fugitive party reaches at the end of PLANET is even further east.  In Cornelius' office, Taylor clearly points to this inland sea as where his spaceship sunk, and which is separated from the ocean seen on the bottom of the map by another body of land.  Therefore what you see on Cornelius' map, where Cornelius points to where Ape Town -- which it should be called, "Ape City" being another BENEATH revision -- is in relationship to everything else is WEST of the eastern desert!  (Also, in BENEATH, Cornelius says that the last place they saw Taylor was "riding north" along the section of land between the lake and the sea.) 

 

Are you still going to argue with this, James?  I mean, come on?  This clearly tells you how to orientate Cornelius' map, and this clearly shows you HE'S HOLDING IT SIDEWAYS!  Where is the "revisionism"?  I know the map looks like the New York City area, but it's simply not.  It can't be!  I know this means it doesn't jibe with what's in BENEATH, but too bad.  They made mistakes in BENEATH.

 

At the end of PLANET, Taylor rides north along what was the eastern coast of the US to find the Statue of Liberty, therefore the cave is south of that.  How far south the cave is, or how long Taylor rides north is debatable.  I don't tie myself to a quick session of shots as meaning the length of the ride is therefore also short.  I contend that it MUST be longer than shown because -- going back to Cornelius' map -- Taylor points to where his spaceship sank and to where he was captured.  Ok, he and his fellow astronauts trekked between those two spots for "many days and nights," therefore the distance must be long, and since Cornelius doesn't know anything of the Statue of Liberty, but does know where his cave is, and must be somewhere on his map, then the Statue is someplace NOT on his map, which means you'd have to travel some distance from the cave to where the Statue is.

 

I know you think the "inland sea" is what was Long Island Sound, but that's northeast of the Statue of Liberty, so it can't be that and the map can't show the New York City area.  If Taylor travels north after he leaves the cave, then the desert between the ocean and the inland sea, the inland sea itself, the desert beyond that, the green belts beyond that, and Ape Town (and whatever else made up the ape civilization) is all WEST of the Atlantic Ocean, deep inland in what was the eastern part of the US, and very much southwest of the New York City area.

 

If you don't acknowledge this as being so, James, then I "respectfully" contend you simply can't see the obvious. 

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Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:06 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Colonel (????) Taylor

 

In Planet, Taylor finds the Statue after only a short ride. Cornelius' map resembles the NYC area. To say that a character is holding the map sideways and ignoring that the Forbidden Zone is repeatedly referred to as 'our eastern desert' is revisionism, not the other way around.

Dr. Zaius says in PLANET, referring to Taylor's statement, that "a ship from outer space sank in an inland sea of our eastern desert," therefore the "inland sea," which Cornelius later calls "dead lake" (so let's not get into an argument over what constitutes a lake or a sea but simply acknowledge it as the body of water we see at the beginning of PLANET), is also part of this eastern desert.

 

Ok, fine... then the ocean that the fugitive party reaches at the end of PLANET is even further east.  In Cornelius' office, Taylor clearly points to this inland sea as where his spaceship sunk, and which is separated from the ocean seen on the bottom of the map by another body of land.  Therefore what you see on Cornelius' map, where Cornelius points to where Ape Town -- which it should be called, "Ape City" being another BENEATH revision -- is in relationship to everything else is WEST of the eastern desert!  (Also, in BENEATH, Cornelius says that the last place they saw Taylor was "riding north" along the section of land between the lake and the sea.) 

 

Are you still going to argue with this, James?  I mean, come on?  This clearly tells you how to orientate Cornelius' map, and this clearly shows you HE'S HOLDING IT SIDEWAYS!  Where is the "revisionism" ?  I know the map looks like the New York City area, but it's simply not.  It can't be!  I know this means it doesn't jibe with what's in BENEATH, but too bad.  They made mistakes in BENEATH.

 

At the end of PLANET, Taylor rides north along what was the eastern coast of the US to find the Statue of Liberty, therefore the cave is south of that.  How far south the cave is, or how long Taylor rides north is debatable.  I don't tie myself to a quick session of shots as meaning the length of the ride is therefore also short.  I contend that it MUST be longer than shown because -- going back to Cornelius' map -- Taylor points to where his spaceship sank and to where he was captured.  Ok, he and his fellow astronauts trekked between those two spots for "many days and nights," therefore the distance must be long, and since Cornelius doesn't know anything of the Statue of Liberty, but does know where his cave is, and must be somewhere on his map, then the Statue is someplace NOT on his map, which means you'd have to travel some distance from the cave to where the Statue is.

 

I know you think the "inland sea" is what was Long Island Sound, but that's northeast of the Statue of Liberty, so it can't be that and the map can't show the New York City area.  If Taylor travels north after he leaves the cave, then the desert between the ocean and the inland sea, the inland sea itself, the desert beyond that, the green belts beyond that, and Ape Town (and whatever else made up the ape civilization) is all WEST of the Atlantic Ocean, deep inland in what was the eastern part of the US, and very much southwest of the New York City area.

 

If you don't acknowledge this as being so, James, then I "respectfully" contend you simply can't see the obvious. 

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I would also like to add that I think that whether or not Taylor was written & portrayed as a military officer in Planet goes to the core of the character and thus far more affects the nature of the story the filmmakers were telling in Planet than the location of Ape City. Whether it is close to NYC or Boston or Washington or Chicago or Dallas does not intrinsically change the story in any way.

James, James, James....  I don't understand what your problem is in this area.  Have you gone south?!!!

 

Many of the early astronauts were US Air Force pilots with military rank.  I don't believe they lost that ranking when they went into NASA.  PLANET, being made when it was made, could easily lead one to assume that Taylor then, too, had been an Air Force pilot before becoming an astronaut, and clearly Paul Dehn made that assumption.

 

What's wrong with that?  I don't get the problem here?

Just a few quick points:

* Burke's rank of major was given in the script to "The Interrogation."

* Virdon's Burke was given in Rod Serling's TV pilot script.

* Obi-Wan Kenobi was called "General Kenobi" in the very first Star Wars film, and has since been called that quite frequently by the clones. :)