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Group: pota Message: 57729 From: smugster2000 Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: Beneath the sets of the POTA, Part 2
Group: pota Message: 57730 From: rassmguy Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 57731 From: James Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57732 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: drive in theatre photo
Group: pota Message: 57733 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes This Weekend
Group: pota Message: 57734 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: Beneath the sets of the POTA, Part 2
Group: pota Message: 57735 From: William Burge Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: planet and beneath photos
Group: pota Message: 57736 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 57737 From: William Burge Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: planet photos
Group: pota Message: 57738 From: William Burge Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Fw: planet and beneath photos
Group: pota Message: 57740 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 57741 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 57742 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 57743 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 57744 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 57745 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 57746 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Latest Simpsons
Group: pota Message: 57747 From: Rich Handley Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
Group: pota Message: 57748 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Child-sized gorilla
Group: pota Message: 57749 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: New poll for pota
Group: pota Message: 57750 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Favortie Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 57751 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Re: Latest Simpsons
Group: pota Message: 57752 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Re: POTA Addresses
Group: pota Message: 57753 From: James Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57754 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Re: Child-sized gorilla
Group: pota Message: 57755 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
Group: pota Message: 57756 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
Group: pota Message: 57757 From: scott bosco Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
Group: pota Message: 57758 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
Group: pota Message: 57759 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/24/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57760 From: scott bosco Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
Group: pota Message: 57761 From: scott bosco Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57762 From: James Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57763 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57764 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
Group: pota Message: 57765 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
Group: pota Message: 57766 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
Group: pota Message: 57767 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
Group: pota Message: 57768 From: William Burge Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: planet photos
Group: pota Message: 57769 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 57770 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57771 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
Group: pota Message: 57772 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57773 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 3/25/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57774 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57775 From: scott bosco Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57776 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Ape City Chronicles
Group: pota Message: 57777 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Marvel POTA Poll
Group: pota Message: 57778 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57779 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57780 From: vjcferrante Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
Group: pota Message: 57781 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57782 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Re: Marvel POTA Poll
Group: pota Message: 57783 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
Group: pota Message: 57784 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57785 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
Group: pota Message: 57786 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
Group: pota Message: 57787 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/26/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
Group: pota Message: 57788 From: James Date: 3/27/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57789 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/27/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57790 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/27/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57791 From: Muppet John Date: 3/27/2010
Subject: The Forbidden Zine
Group: pota Message: 57792 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/27/2010
Subject: Forbidden Zine #1
Group: pota Message: 57795 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/27/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
Group: pota Message: 57796 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/27/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
Group: pota Message: 57797 From: scott bosco Date: 3/28/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57798 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/28/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57799 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/28/2010
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes, 3/28/2010, 6:30 am
Group: pota Message: 57800 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/28/2010
Subject: Another Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57801 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/28/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
Group: pota Message: 57802 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/28/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
Group: pota Message: 57803 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/28/2010
Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes, 3/28/2010, 6:30 am
Group: pota Message: 57804 From: lawford42 Date: 3/28/2010
Subject: Re: Heritage Gallery Auction.....LISA costume
Group: pota Message: 57805 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/28/2010
Subject: Re: Heritage Gallery Auction.....LISA costume
Group: pota Message: 57806 From: rassmguy Date: 3/28/2010
Subject: R.I.P. Mike Valerio
Group: pota Message: 57807 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 3/28/2010
Subject: R.I.P. Mike Valerio
Group: pota Message: 57808 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57809 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
Group: pota Message: 57810 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
Group: pota Message: 57811 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: Child-sized gorilla
Group: pota Message: 57812 From: smugster2000 Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Stoned
Group: pota Message: 57813 From: vjcferrante Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
Group: pota Message: 57814 From: James Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57815 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
Group: pota Message: 57816 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: Child-sized gorilla
Group: pota Message: 57817 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57818 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
Group: pota Message: 57819 From: vjcferrante Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
Group: pota Message: 57820 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57821 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: Stoned
Group: pota Message: 57822 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 3/29/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57823 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/30/2010
Subject: Re: Child-sized gorilla
Group: pota Message: 57824 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/30/2010
Subject: Re: Stoned
Group: pota Message: 57825 From: scott bosco Date: 3/30/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57826 From: James Date: 3/30/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57827 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/30/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57828 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/30/2010
Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
Group: pota Message: 57829 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/30/2010
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 57831 From: James Date: 3/31/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 57832 From: William Burge Date: 3/31/2010
Subject: planet photos



Group: pota Message: 57729 From: smugster2000 Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: Beneath the sets of the POTA, Part 2
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Check out these images of the Stockholm Subway in the files section...

Life imitates art!

<http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Stockholm%20Subway/>


Dave B
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Group: pota Message: 57730 From: rassmguy Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes
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24hoursoftv.blogspot.com is hosting a 48-hour marathon, during which they'll be watching (and blogging about) all six Apes films, the TV series and the cartoons, in chronological order, using Timeline of the Planet of the Apes as a guide. They just e-mailed me about it today, and I thought I'd pass the info along, in case anyone wants to take part:

http://24hoursoftv.blogspot.com/2010/03/entirety-of-planet-of-apes-press.html"
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Group: pota Message: 57731 From: James Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"

Lost City
By Uncle Mike
I flipped past Tim Burton's crummy 2001 remake of Planet of the Apes (which lately has been playing endlessly on HBO for some reason I can't fathom) but on my second swing round the dial I stopped and watched. ..
Lost City - http://www.thelostcity.org/

Saturday Morning Superstars!: Return to the Planet of the Apes!
By Jon K
Return to the Planet of the Apes! The Mighty Heroes: The Shocker and The Dusters! Return to the Planet of the Apes! Marvel Super-Heroes: Captain America in "The Comin... Return to the Planet of the Apes! ...
Saturday Morning Superstars! - http://saturdaymorningsuperstars.blogspot.com/

 

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Group: pota Message: 57732 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: drive in theatre photo
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I think she was more concerned with my 10 year old sister seeing them.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> What did she say about seeing men's bare hineys with the little kid that you was?!
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Group: pota Message: 57733 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes This Weekend
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Just one question, from the schedule posted on your site you are starting with the third film Escape. Why aren't you starting with the original, Planet?


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "kickboyface" <kickboyface@...> wrote:
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> Hi there,
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> A friend and I have done marathon TV watching in the past and this weekend will be turning our attention to something I'm sure you all hold near and dear, "Planet of the Apes -- The Ultimate DVD Collection." We're going to be watching it in its entirety (including all commentaries) starting at 18:00 (Pacific) this Friday (3/26) and ending about 48 hours later.
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> You're welcome to gawk, or even join in as an author, details can be found on www.24HoursOfTV.com
>
> Thanks,
> b1
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Group: pota Message: 57734 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: Re: Beneath the sets of the POTA, Part 2
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Either way it is still a mistake since the building didn't exist during the time period the film took place. But it was a lucky mistake for Beneath.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> I think more like around 1900.
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Group: pota Message: 57735 From: William Burge Date: 3/23/2010
Subject: planet and beneath photos
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    dear group, found some great photos of planet and beneath on ebay- the planet poster is italian neet artwork . enjoy from william burge

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    Group: pota Message: 57736 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/23/2010
    Subject: Re: The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes
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    I highly disagree with "Special K" that the movies decline the further one goes down the franchise chain. "Conquest" is a great movie that most POTA fans love. Roddy McDowell gives his best ape-acting performance as the tormented Caesar. I personally believe it's second best next to the our beloved "Planet" (I'm still a big fan of "Beneath" as well...General Ursus and nasty-looking bomb-worshiping mutants=awesome).
     
    Rich...love the Timeline book, but you're the first Apes fan I've ever heard/read who claims "Escape" is his/her favorite of the franchise. Personally, it's my least favorite to watch (even though I love 'em all)  b/c there is just not enough going on. Yes, I'm in the minority now...I even enjoy "Battle" more than "Escape."


    From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 8:10:18 AM
    Subject: [pota] The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes

     

    24hoursoftv. blogspot. com is hosting a 48-hour marathon, during which they'll be watching (and blogging about) all six Apes films, the TV series and the cartoons, in chronological order, using Timeline of the Planet of the Apes as a guide. They just e-mailed me about it today, and I thought I'd pass the info along, in case anyone wants to take part:

    http://24hoursoftv. blogspot. com/2010/ 03/entirety- of-planet- of-apes-press..html"


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    Group: pota Message: 57737 From: William Burge Date: 3/23/2010
    Subject: planet photos
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    dear group, found some more items on ebay . from william burge

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    Group: pota Message: 57738 From: William Burge Date: 3/23/2010
    Subject: Fw: planet and beneath photos
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    --- On Tue, 3/23/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:

    From: William Burge <billburge48@...>
    Subject: planet and beneath photos
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: billburge48@...
    Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 12:49 PM

    dear group, found some great photos of planet and beneath on ebay- the planet poster is italian neet artwork . enjoy from william burge


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    Group: pota Message: 57740 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/23/2010
    Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
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      "Escape" is my favorite of the sequels. I can't say it's better than "Planet" but I don't think the other sequels can hold a candle to it in terms of writing and acting. I believe it was Arthur Jacob's favorite of the sequels too. Now, somebody please hold a candle to me; I like that.

    Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:09 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes

     

    I highly disagree with "Special K" that the movies decline the further one goes down the franchise chain. "Conquest" is a great movie that most POTA fans love. Roddy McDowell gives his best ape-acting performance as the tormented Caesar. I personally believe it's second best next to the our beloved "Planet" (I'm still a big fan of "Beneath" as well...General Ursus and nasty-looking bomb-worshiping mutants=awesome) .
     
    Rich...love the Timeline book, but you're the first Apes fan I've ever heard/read who claims "Escape" is his/her favorite of the franchise. Personally, it's my least favorite to watch (even though I love 'em all)  b/c there is just not enough going on. Yes, I'm in the minority now...I even enjoy "Battle" more than "Escape."
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    Group: pota Message: 57741 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 3/23/2010
    Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
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    I totally agree that Escape is the best of the sequels.



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 4:23 pm
    Subject: Re: [pota] The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes

     
      "Escape" is my favorite of the sequels. I can't say it's better than "Planet" but I don't think the other sequels can hold a candle to it in terms of writing and acting. I believe it was Arthur Jacob's favorite of the sequels too. Now, somebody please hold a candle to me; I like that.

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    Group: pota Message: 57742 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/23/2010
    Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
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    CONQUEST THE BEST. JOHN.M.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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    > "Escape" is my favorite of the sequels. I can't say it's better than "Planet" but I don't think the other sequels can hold a candle to it in terms of writing and acting. I believe it was Arthur Jacob's favorite of the sequels too. Now, somebody please hold a candle to me; I like that.
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    Group: pota Message: 57743 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 3/23/2010
    Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
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    You all know Escape is Jessica's favorite
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:05 PM
    Subject: [pota] Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes

     

    CONQUEST THE BEST. JOHN.M.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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    > "Escape" is my favorite of the sequels. I can't say it's better than "Planet" but I don't think the other sequels can hold a candle to it in terms of writing and acting. I believe it was Arthur Jacob's favorite of the sequels too. Now, somebody please hold a candle to me; I like that.
    >
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 57744 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/23/2010
    Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
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    That I can't argue with, Jeff! When I need inspiration, I fire up the DVD and settle down to watch it.
    Jess.

    On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Jeff Barkley <skintricks@...> wrote:

    You all know Escape is Jessica's favorite
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    Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:05 PM
    Subject: [pota] Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes

    CONQUEST THE BEST. JOHN.M.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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    > "Escape" is my favorite of the sequels. I can't say it's better than "Planet" but I don't think the other sequels can hold a candle to it in terms of writing and acting. I believe it was Arthur Jacob's favorite of the sequels too. Now, somebody please hold a candle to me; I like that.
    >
    >


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    Group: pota Message: 57745 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/23/2010
    Subject: Re: The Hilarity of the Planet of the Apes
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    Kim's too.
     
    In a message dated 3/23/2010 8:04:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, skintricks@... writes:
    You all know Escape is Jessica's favorite
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    Group: pota Message: 57746 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/24/2010
    Subject: Latest Simpsons
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    If you want to see the VERY brief POTA bit on last weekends Simpsons, here's a link:
     
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    Group: pota Message: 57747 From: Rich Handley Date: 3/24/2010
    Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
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    >3b. Re: The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes
    >Posted by: "Eric Payton" ursuszaiuscaesar@... ursuszaiuscaesar
    >Rich...love the Timeline book, but you're the
    >first Apes fan I've ever heard/read who claimsÂ
    >"Escape" is his/her favorite of the franchise.

    Wow, really? That's surprising, as it's the
    sequel I hear people cite as their favorite the most.
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    Group: pota Message: 57748 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/24/2010
    Subject: Child-sized gorilla
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    Dylan's outfit is not together yet, but at least I've finished hairing up the pullover hood. Waiting for rubber mask grease to be delivered (can't find my original set, darn it!) and still have LOADS to do. *sigh* How did I ever get to this predicament...I am SOOOOOOO under the gun....
    Waiting for the clear latex to dry up around the hairline so that I can add more rubber latex and eventually smooth out the sewn portion of the hair weft. I love how the hair lays nicely around the neck. I used three packages of fake wefts of hair to fluff up the hair. Too bad my boys are not hard core ape fans...they won't let me grease up their eyes and hands...I guess more rubber mask grease for me! Oh well. I should just be glad they are willing to go to Wondercon in ape costumes. :)
    Jess.
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    Group: pota Message: 57749 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/24/2010
    Subject: New poll for pota
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    Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
    pota group:

    What is your favorite POTA Sequel?

    o Beneath
    o Escape
    o Conquest
    o Battle


    To vote, please visit the following web page:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/surveys?id=2957985

    Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
    not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
    web site listed above.

    Thanks!
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    Group: pota Message: 57750 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/24/2010
    Subject: Favortie Sequel?
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    Since this have become a bit of a hot topic, a new poll has been created: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/surveys?id=2957985

    Vote early and often;-)

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
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    > >3b. Re: The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes
    > >Posted by: "Eric Payton" ursuszaiuscaesar@... ursuszaiuscaesar
    > >Rich...love the Timeline book, but you're the
    > >first Apes fan I've ever heard/read who claimsÂ
    > >"Escape" is his/her favorite of the franchise.
    >
    > Wow, really? That's surprising, as it's the
    > sequel I hear people cite as their favorite the most.
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 57751 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/24/2010
    Subject: Re: Latest Simpsons
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    Thanks for the link Rory!


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
    >
    >
    > If you want to see the VERY brief POTA bit on last weekends Simpsons, here's a link:
    >
    > http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/22/at-the-movies-with-the-simpsons/
    >

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    Maz,

    There are some group members that have been in contact with actors and others involved in the original POTA films and TV series. However, these people are private citizens so it would be totally inappropriate for their personal information to be published on a public forum such as this one. Those members who have been in contact with them would be betraying a trust to do so. I hope you understand.


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Matthew" <xxcellardoorxx@...> wrote:
    >
    > Just wondering if anyone has an address for any POTA actors that are still around and kickin. Anything from the movies to the tv show is fair game. Im specifically interested in finding Wright King's (Dr Galen) contact information (address). Id love to get in touch with him and whoever else I can. Thanks to all in advance!
    >
    > -Maz
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 57753 From: James Date: 3/24/2010
    Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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    FYI

     

    Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"

    Fantasmo Cult Cinema Explosion: Movie Review: Conquest of the ...
    By Jim Blanton
    Recently I picked up the fantastic Blu-ray set of the Planet of the Apes saga, and have been working my way through the films having not seen them in several years (with the exception of the original). While I generally love the whole ...
    Fantasmo Cult Cinema Explosion - http://fantasmocinema.blogspot.com/

    The Book Tower
    By Stephen Lang
    Pierre Boulle's Monkey Planet is the 1963 novel that was later famously filmed as Planet of the Apes. I was lucky to get hold of the 1966 Penguin paperback, the artwork quite chilling and predating the later editions that suffered a ...
    The Book Tower - http://www.stephenlang.co.uk/

    A Dear Little Friend, indeed.: Don't sleep on this... Vol 1
    By DLF
    But given his image, I was surprised he would be in a film like Planet of the Apes. But his ridiculous red blooded American image improves the film and makes that much more of a contrast for the state of things on the ape planet. ...
    A Dear Little Friend, indeed. - http://adearlittlefriend.blogspot.com/

    Oinotna7's dvd collection: Planet Of The Apes - Ultimate Edition ...
    By António Neves
    Planet Of The Apes - Ultimate Edition - R2 UK. Publicada por António Neves em 23:44. 0 comentários: Enviar um comentário · Mensagem antiga Página inicial. Subscrever: Enviar comentários (Atom). Acerca de mim. A minha fotografia ...
    Oinotna7's dvd collection - http://oinotna7.blogspot.com/

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    Group: pota Message: 57754 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/24/2010
    Subject: Re: Child-sized gorilla
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    Wow! That looks great Jess. Can't wait to see the finished product.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > Dylan's outfit is not together yet, but at least I've finished hairing up
    > the pullover hood. Waiting for rubber mask grease to be delivered (can't
    > find my original set, darn it!) and still have LOADS to do. *sigh* How did
    > I ever get to this predicament...I am SOOOOOOO under the gun....
    >
    > http://img441.imageshack.us/i/dsc03010.jpg/
    >
    > Waiting for the clear latex to dry up around the hairline so that I can add
    > more rubber latex and eventually smooth out the sewn portion of the hair
    > weft. I love how the hair lays nicely around the neck. I used three
    > packages of fake wefts of hair to fluff up the hair. Too bad my boys are
    > not hard core ape fans...they won't let me grease up their eyes and
    > hands...I guess more rubber mask grease for me! Oh well. I should just be
    > glad they are willing to go to Wondercon in ape costumes. :)
    >
    >
    >
    > Jess.
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 57755 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/24/2010
    Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
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    Yeah, I'm eating crow now with all of the posts on here, I guess I spoke too soon. I should have left it to people that I know personally.
     
    Everyone I know personally prefers either Conquest or Beneath.
     
    The main problem I have with Escape...no gorillas. I also don't like the modern American setting. I need more of an "escape" (pun intended) with my sci-fi and fantasy, even if it's dystopian. So give me crude stone buildings or a future America run by a fascists.
     
    What I like about Escape...I think it's the best Cornelius and Zira ever looked prosthetic-wise and hair-wise. Now I know I'm going to get negative responses. This has been discussed before and I've been slammed by those who still believe that they looked best in Planet.


    From: Rich Handley <handleyr@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:12:21 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Digest Number 4845

     


    >3b. Re: The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes
    >Posted by: "Eric Payton" ursuszaiuscaesar@ yahoo.com ursuszaiuscaesar
    >Rich...love the Timeline book, but you're the
    >first Apes fan I've ever heard/read who claimsÂ
    >"Escape" is his/her favorite of the franchise.

    Wow, really? That's surprising, as it's the
    sequel I hear people cite as their favorite the most.


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    Group: pota Message: 57756 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/24/2010
    Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
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      I can see where people don't like the "modern day" "Escape" as much as the more science-fictiony settings. They probably won't be as happy with this new "Caesar" either being set in modern day. One of the things I liked about "Escape" is that the setting was different and, maybe more than any of the others, we were the villains, which is a strong statement. Even "Conquest" let us off the hook a little.

    Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:47 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Digest Number 4845

     

    Yeah, I'm eating crow now with all of the posts on here, I guess I spoke too soon. I should have left it to people that I know personally.
     
    Everyone I know personally prefers either Conquest or Beneath.
     
    The main problem I have with Escape...no gorillas. I also don't like the modern American setting. I need more of an "escape" (pun intended) with my sci-fi and fantasy, even if it's dystopian. So give me crude stone buildings or a future America run by a fascists.
     
    What I like about Escape...I think it's the best Cornelius and Zira ever looked prosthetic-wise and hair-wise. Now I know I'm going to get negative responses. This has been discussed before and I've been slammed by those who still believe that they looked best in Planet.

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    Group: pota Message: 57757 From: scott bosco Date: 3/24/2010
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    I completely agree with the "look" of the two main characters in ESCAPE.  To me it's like the make-up evolved (no pun) and finalized in concept.
    - Scott B.
     
    --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:

    From: Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...>
    Subject: Re: [pota] Digest Number 4845
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 1:47 PM

     
    Yeah, I'm eating crow now with all of the posts on here, I guess I spoke too soon. I should have left it to people that I know personally.
     
    Everyone I know personally prefers either Conquest or Beneath.
     
    The main problem I have with Escape...no gorillas. I also don't like the modern American setting. I need more of an "escape" (pun intended) with my sci-fi and fantasy, even if it's dystopian. So give me crude stone buildings or a future America run by a fascists.
     
    What I like about Escape...I think it's the best Cornelius and Zira ever looked prosthetic-wise and hair-wise. Now I know I'm going to get negative responses. This has been discussed before and I've been slammed by those who still believe that they looked best in Planet.

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    Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
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    Everyone I know personally prefers either Conquest or Beneath.
     
    The main problem I have with Escape...no gorillas.
    The main problem, as I see it from the point of view that POTA is an adult thing that has something serious to say, is that to a lot of POTA fans, POTA is at its best when it's "gorillas on horseback chasing humans and firing guns."  Now I love all of PLANET, but for me the most interesting stuff is what's said, NOT the action sequences, and what's really wrong with BENEATH was it doesn't have much interesting to say -- as compared to PLANET.  ESCAPE is my favorite sequel because it's the most literate.  CONQUEST would have been better if it only had a bit more intelligent dialogue.  BATTLE tries to have something to say, but it gets silly, same with the TV show.  In fact, I think one of the big problems with the TV show is "too many gorillas on horseback chasing humans and firing guns!"



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    Group: pota Message: 57759 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/24/2010
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    Never seen this edition before.  Can't say I like it.  Terrible title, by the way.
     
    MonkeyPlanet.jpg

     




    -----Original Message-----
    From: James <JamesA1102@...>
    To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 9:29 am
    Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     
    FYI
     
    Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"
    Fantasmo Cult Cinema Explosion: Movie Review: Conquest of the ...
    By Jim Blanton
    Recently I picked up the fantastic Blu-ray set of the Planet of the Apes saga, and have been working my way through the films having not seen them in several years (with the exception of the original). While I generally love the whole ...
    Fantasmo Cult Cinema Explosion - http://fantasmocine ma.blogspot. com/
    The Book Tower
    By Stephen Lang
    Pierre Boulle's Monkey Planet is the 1963 novel that was later famously filmed as Planet of the Apes. I was lucky to get hold of the 1966 Penguin paperback, the artwork quite chilling and predating the later editions that suffered a ...
    The Book Tower - http://www.stephenl ang.co.uk/
    A Dear Little Friend, indeed.: Don't sleep on this... Vol 1
    By DLF
    But given his image, I was surprised he would be in a film like Planet of the Apes. But his ridiculous red blooded American image improves the film and makes that much more of a contrast for the state of things on the ape planet. ...
    A Dear Little Friend, indeed. - http://adearlittlef riend.blogspot. com/
    Oinotna7's dvd collection: Planet Of The Apes - Ultimate Edition ...
    By António Neves
    Planet Of The Apes - Ultimate Edition - R2 UK. Publicada por António Neves em 23:44. 0 comentários: Enviar um comentário · Mensagem antiga Página inicial. Subscrever: Enviar comentários (Atom). Acerca de mim. A minha fotografia ...
    Oinotna7's dvd collection - http://oinotna7. blogspot. com/
     
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    Group: pota Message: 57760 From: scott bosco Date: 3/25/2010
    Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
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    Yep, agree.
    PLANET was the perfect blend of what it had to say, both visually and literally.  BENEATH was more visual, ESCAPE was more literal, CONQUEST offered less in meaning visually and only offered well written during the last 6 mins.  BATTLE, had equal amounts both visual and literal, but in subdued and minimal amounts - which is odd since the couple who wrote it, especially the wife makes sure to always make it known how educated they were.
    In terms of the TV Series, I believe it had more to say than most people admit.  It was not only a product of its time but of TV.  Under limited constraint I feel it did more than BATTLE in literally telling more and broaching the same material PLANET did.  By that time the POTA genre had become entrenched into an odd "children's" form of entertainment that the studio felt embarrassed to admit it was for adults too.  It had becomes distant and disconnected from its origin as less accepted as adult sci-fi.  For this reason I think the animated cartoon series for all its faults is more daring in some of its material and visual representation - especially for a Saturday morning TV series meant only for kids.  It is a misanthrope touching on heavy subjects like war, religion, mutations, brutality, race relations, and genocide.  Subtracting the more child-cartoon-friendly "monsterbird", Ice Ape, and "Ape-phrases" it holds a more compelling and more literal feel than even some of the film sequels.  It certainly offers a wider and broader vistas to visit due to its layered frame work of apes, astronauts, humanoids, and mutant story-lines.  It is the way I think the genre needs to be re-visited, but in live action and with some changes.  It would be the perfect new TV series but with today's digital realm which can bring, visually, a stunning new re-birth.  It holds the proper layered structure that is needed to keep a series going, and growing - evolving.  Using traditional make-up but visual creating a world more detailed, and vast than ever before.  The Eco-loving mutants of the animated series is a wonderful contrast to the bomb venerating ones of BENEATH make a wonderful contrast of those left after the holocaust.  Having two polar opposite communities existing within the same storyline would open and add another layer with the possibilities of conflict between the two for future story options. 
    With all this talk over a film reboot which is misplaced in simply changing and moving further away was what is already there I think there is enough stated that just needs to be fleshed out.  There is a very common (and I mean common) train of thought in Hollywood today that tried and true film/comics/series of the past need to be completely re-tooled to be done right.  This we can do it better now is mostly hewed from ego without talent.  Its not like they are re-making silent films into sound, or B&W films into color.  These people think the originals need to be improved - in the end most of these remakes fail. 
    - Scott B. 

    --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

    From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
    Subject: [pota] Re: Digest Number 4845
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 12:04 AM

     

    Everyone I know personally prefers either Conquest or Beneath.
     
    The main problem I have with Escape...no gorillas.
    The main problem, as I see it from the point of view that POTA is an adult thing that has something serious to say, is that to a lot of POTA fans, POTA is at its best when it's "gorillas on horseback chasing humans and firing guns."  Now I love all of PLANET, but for me the most interesting stuff is what's said, NOT the action sequences, and what's really wrong with BENEATH was it doesn't have much interesting to say -- as compared to PLANET.  ESCAPE is my favorite sequel because it's the most literate.  CONQUEST would have been better if it only had a bit more intelligent dialogue.  BATTLE tries to have something to say, but it gets silly, same with the TV show.  In fact, I think one of the big problems with the TV show is "too many gorillas on horseback chasing humans and firing guns!"




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    Group: pota Message: 57761 From: scott bosco Date: 3/25/2010
    Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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    Yuck.
    - Scott  B.
     
    --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

    From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
    Subject: [pota] Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 12:13 AM

    Never seen this edition before.  Can't say I like it.  Terrible title, by the way.
     
    MonkeyPlanet.jpg

     




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    Group: pota Message: 57762 From: James Date: 3/25/2010
    Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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    FYI

     

    Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"

    Saturday Morning Superstars!: Return to the Planet of the Apes!
    By Jon K
    Return to the Planet of the Apes! The Mighty Heroes: The Shocker and The Dusters! Return to the Planet of the Apes! Marvel Super-Heroes: Captain America in "The Comin... Return to the Planet of the Apes! ...
    Saturday Morning Superstars! - http://saturdaymorningsuperstars.blogspot.com/

    Further on How to Be a Remote Father
    Chicago Reader (blog)
    I went on to tell the guy how I'd had my mind ecstatically blown wide open at the age of four by seeing Planet of the Apes (uh, not the Tim Burton one) in a ...
    See all stories on this topic

    10 Good Time Travel Movies
    By Shane
    Planet of the Apes (1968) – Charlton Heston is George Taylor, an astronaut who crash lands on a strange planet ruled by merciless apes. His crew quickly killed, Taylor finds himself a captive along with many of the planet's primitive ...
    Only Good Movies Blog - http://www.onlygoodmovies.com/blog/

     

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    Group: pota Message: 57763 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/25/2010
    Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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    Really? It has been featured on the group website for years: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/NovelCovers.htm


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
    >
    >
    > Never seen this edition before. Can't say I like it. Terrible title, by the way.
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 57764 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/25/2010
    Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
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    No need to eat crow or any other bird, unless they are roasted with a nice marsala sauce. :-)

    If I remember correctly Marvel did a poll of readers and Conquest was ranked as the favorite sequel of fans. When I get a chance I'll try to dig it up.


    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:
    >
    > Yeah, I'm eating crow now with all of the posts on here, I guess I spoke too soon. I should have left it to people that I know personally.
    >
    > Everyone I know personally prefers either Conquest or Beneath.
    >
    > The main problem I have with Escape...no gorillas. I also don't like the modern American setting. I need more of an "escape" (pun intended) with my sci-fi and fantasy, even if it's dystopian. So give me crude stone buildings or a future America run by a fascists.
    >
    > What I like about Escape...I think it's the best Cornelius and Zira ever looked prosthetic-wise and hair-wise. Now I know I'm going to get negative responses. This has been discussed before and I've been slammed by those who still believe that they looked best in Planet.
    >
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 57765 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/25/2010
    Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
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    Ahem...I FULLY understand that POTA is an "adult thing." It's sci-fi for social scientists (as has been discussed before) and I am indeed a social scientist. Yes, I get Planet of the Apes and I'm very attentive to what is being said. As far as the gorillas are concerned maybe it is you who needs to come to grips with what they fully represent. The gorillas are the most intimidating, terrifying force the movies have to offer; more so than the SS-like police of Conquest or Mr. Soap-Opera (Dr. Hasslein) of Escape. Outright fear is what they represent and that says a lot. Without them, what would Planet of the Apes be? They amplify Zaius' ability to be the antagonist because they represent the consequences of what could happen if you oppose him. What would all of the orangutans be without them? They're power-base would be severly weakened or even non-existant.  I would even put them up agianst any other force-of-intimidation from any other movies including Stormtroopers or Nazgul. The gorillas could at least hit something and they sure as heck would have caught Lady Arwen (movie only).
     
    Yes, when I was a kid who first watched Planet of the Apes with my dad when it came to television, I thought to myself "gorillas on horseback chasing humans and firing guns!! Cool!!" But, as I grew up, I came to understand that it was/is something more. I love what Planet of the Apes has to say, but everyone needs to remember that those action sequences and the brutality depicted are saying something as well. That goes for all of the movies.
     
    May you have nightmares about gorillas with guns led by General Ursus!!
     

     


    From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 12:04:27 AM
    Subject: [pota] Re: Digest Number 4845

     


    Everyone I know personally prefers either Conquest or Beneath.
     
    The main problem I have with Escape...no gorillas.
    The main problem, as I see it from the point of view that POTA is an adult thing that has something serious to say, is that to a lot of POTA fans, POTA is at its best when it's "gorillas on horseback chasing humans and firing guns."  Now I love all of PLANET, but for me the most interesting stuff is what's said, NOT the action sequences, and what's really wrong with BENEATH was it doesn't have much interesting to say -- as compared to PLANET.  ESCAPE is my favorite sequel because it's the most literate.  CONQUEST would have been better if it only had a bit more intelligent dialogue.  BATTLE tries to have something to say, but it gets silly, same with the TV show.  In fact, I think one of the big problems with the TV show is "too many gorillas on horseback chasing humans and firing guns!"




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    Group: pota Message: 57766 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/25/2010
    Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
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    Yes, I believe Planet was the best and I agree with you about Battle.
     
    Beneath was allegory for the Vietnam War which had worn thin by that time (but I still like the movie).
     
    I respectfully disagree with you about Conquest. I felt that it was Roddy's best acting performance. I love how he goes from being completely naive to the leader of a violent rebellion. He depicted this transformation in excellent fashion. It shows what can happen to anyone who is pushed too far. It's also allegory for the Watts riots and race relations in general. I believe that it says more than you think it does. Yes, the dialogue could have been better...some of Breck's lines were over-the-top. But MacDonald, Armando, and especially Caesar were good/great characters who were well acted.
     

     


    From: scott bosco <digitalcinema@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 7:42:24 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Digest Number 4845

     

    Yep, agree.
    PLANET was the perfect blend of what it had to say, both visually and literally.  BENEATH was more visual, ESCAPE was more literal, CONQUEST offered less in meaning visually and only offered well written during the last 6 mins.  BATTLE, had equal amounts both visual and literal, but in subdued and minimal amounts - which is odd since the couple who wrote it, especially the wife makes sure to always make it known how educated they were.
    In terms of the TV Series, I believe it had more to say than most people admit.  It was not only a product of its time but of TV.  Under limited constraint I feel it did more than BATTLE in literally telling more and broaching the same material PLANET did.  By that time the POTA genre had become entrenched into an odd "children's" form of entertainment that the studio felt embarrassed to admit it was for adults too.  It had becomes distant and disconnected from its origin as less accepted as adult sci-fi.  For this reason I think the animated cartoon series for all its faults is more daring in some of its material and visual representation - especially for a Saturday morning TV series meant only for kids.  It is a misanthrope touching on heavy subjects like war, religion, mutations, brutality, race relations, and genocide.  Subtracting the more child-cartoon- friendly "monsterbird" , Ice Ape, and "Ape-phrases" it holds a more compelling and more literal feel than even some of the film sequels.  It certainly offers a wider and broader vistas to visit due to its layered frame work of apes, astronauts, humanoids, and mutant story-lines.  It is the way I think the genre needs to be re-visited, but in live action and with some changes.  It would be the perfect new TV series but with today's digital realm which can bring, visually, a stunning new re-birth.  It holds the proper layered structure that is needed to keep a series going, and growing - evolving.  Using traditional make-up but visual creating a world more detailed, and vast than ever before.  The Eco-loving mutants of the animated series is a wonderful contrast to the bomb venerating ones of BENEATH make a wonderful contrast of those left after the holocaust.  Having two polar opposite communities existing within the same storyline would open and add another layer with the possibilities of conflict between the two for future story options. 
    With all this talk over a film reboot which is misplaced in simply changing and moving further away was what is already there I think there is enough stated that just needs to be fleshed out.  There is a very common (and I mean common) train of thought in Hollywood today that tried and true film/comics/ series of the past need to be completely re-tooled to be done right.  This we can do it better now is mostly hewed from ego without talent.  Its not like they are re-making silent films into sound, or B&W films into color.  These people think the originals need to be improved - in the end most of these remakes fail. 
    - Scott B. 

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    Group: pota Message: 57767 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/25/2010
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    Thanks


    From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:29:02 AM
    Subject: [pota] Re: Digest Number 4845

     

    No need to eat crow or any other bird, unless they are roasted with a nice marsala sauce. :-)

    If I remember correctly Marvel did a poll of readers and Conquest was ranked as the favorite sequel of fans. When I get a chance I'll try to dig it up.

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    Group: pota Message: 57768 From: William Burge Date: 3/25/2010
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    dear group, found some cool planet photos on ebay. enjoy from william burge

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    Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
     
    Title:   Mort Abrahams born on this day in 1916
     
    Date:   Friday March 26, 2010
    Time:   All Day
    Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
    Notes:   Associate Producer: Planet & Beneath.
     
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    Group: pota Message: 57770 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 3/25/2010
    Subject: A Thought About "Conquest"
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      Greetings, everyone.  After seeing all the debate about "Ceasar" being made, I thought of another possible storyline.  Remember in "Conquest" when Caesar is chosen as a "superior male" and sent to the breeding complex?  I wonder if the offspring from that union would be intelligent and have the power of speech.  Just something I'm surprised has never been explored.
       
      Jeff (RedSpy)
       
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      Group: pota Message: 57771 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/25/2010
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 4845
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      It teaches symbiosis.  Apes grow corn.
      Humans steal corn.  Apes hunt Humans.
      But then an Outside Influence is introduced.
      Astronaut speaks to Chimp. Chimp questions
      status quo. Orang status feels threatened.
      Orang is forced to reveal secret.  Chimps
      must be threatened for cover up.  Gorillas
      get greedy.  Attack Humans to expand
      feeding ground.  Discover Mutants.  Kills
      Mutants.  Kills Astronaut.  Astronaut kills
      everyone and destroys The World.  The End.
       
       
      In a message dated 3/25/2010 4:06:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes:
      May you have nightmares about gorillas with guns led by General Ursus!!
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      I still say that's Lisa in that picture.

      Kevin (PofTAfan@...)



      -----Original Message-----
      From: RedSpy13@...
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 11:14 pm
      Subject: [pota] A Thought About "Conquest"

      Greetings, everyone.  After seeing all the debate about "Ceasar" being made, I thought of another possible storyline.  Remember in "Conquest" when Caesar is chosen as a "superior male" and sent to the breeding complex?  I wonder if the offspring from that union would be intelligent and have the power of speech.  Just something I'm surprised has never been explored.
       
      Jeff (RedSpy)
       
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      Group: pota Message: 57773 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 3/25/2010
      Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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        Well, if it wasn't Lisa, I still think the storyline would be interesting to explore.  It might make a nice stand-alone comic book, or even a graphic novel.  Just a thought.
         
        Jeff (RedSpy)
         
        In a message dated 3/26/2010 00:31:54 Eastern Daylight Time, PofTAfan@... writes:


        I still say that's Lisa in that picture.

        Kevin (PofTAfan@...)



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        Group: pota Message: 57774 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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        Lisa (Natalie Trundy), of course!
         
        Saulo Adami
        From Brazil


        --- Em sex, 26/3/10, RedSpy13@... <RedSpy13@...> escreveu:

        De: RedSpy13@... <RedSpy13@...>
        Assunto: [pota] A Thought About "Conquest"
        Para: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Data: Sexta-feira, 26 de Março de 2010, 0:14

        Greetings, everyone.  After seeing all the debate about "Ceasar" being made, I thought of another possible storyline.  Remember in "Conquest" when Caesar is chosen as a "superior male" and sent to the breeding complex?  I wonder if the offspring from that union would be intelligent and have the power of speech.  Just something I'm surprised has never been explored.
         
        Jeff (RedSpy)
         

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        Group: pota Message: 57775 From: scott bosco Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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        I was stated in ESCAPE that Z&C's child could mate with a "dumb" ape and have have one like itself.
        - Scott B.

        --- On Fri, 3/26/10, RedSpy13@... <RedSpy13@...> wrote:

        From: RedSpy13@... <RedSpy13@...>
        Subject: Re: [pota] A Thought About "Conquest"
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 12:37 AM

         
        Well, if it wasn't Lisa, I still think the storyline would be interesting to explore.  It might make a nice stand-alone comic book, or even a graphic novel.  Just a thought.
         
        Jeff (RedSpy)
         
        In a message dated 3/26/2010 00:31:54 Eastern Daylight Time, PofTAfan@aol. com writes:


        I still say that's Lisa in that picture.

        Kevin (PofTAfan@aol. com)




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        Group: pota Message: 57776 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Ape City Chronicles
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        Another week and another new installement of APE CITY CHRONICLES is now available.  

        To access click on the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm.

        Have a great weekend everyone!

        Visit all the Group's special features including:

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        Group: pota Message: 57777 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Marvel POTA Poll
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        Well as promised, here are the results of the poll Marvel took in the '70s:


        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:
        >
        > Thanks
        >
        >
        >
        >

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        Group: pota Message: 57778 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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        Guess you haven't been reading 'Ape City Chronicles'.


        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, RedSpy13@... wrote:
        >
        > Greetings, everyone. After seeing all the debate about "Ceasar" being
        > made, I thought of another possible storyline. Remember in "Conquest" when
        > Caesar is chosen as a "superior male" and sent to the breeding complex? I
        > wonder if the offspring from that union would be intelligent and have the
        > power of speech. Just something I'm surprised has never been explored.
        >
        > Jeff (RedSpy)
        >

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        Group: pota Message: 57779 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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        According to the script, it is not Lisa.

        https://pota.goatley.com/scripts/pota_conquest_finalshooting.pdf

        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
        >
        >
        > I still say that's Lisa in that picture.
        >
        > Kevin (PofTAfan@...)
        >
        >

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        Group: pota Message: 57780 From: vjcferrante Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
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        Hi everybody,

        I'm new to the POTA Yahoo group and was encouraged by a welcome message from the moderator to post a message and introduce myself.

        I've been happily marooned on the Planet of the Apes since being transported through time via (the NY area ABC affiliate) channel 7's 4:30 Movie marathons of the 70's. In reading the introduction to Rich Handley's Timeline Of The Planet Of The Apes, I was glad to learn of someone else who had become hooked in the same way. It's a brilliantly executed labor of love that weaves together all the various media created for the franchise into a fascinating chronological tapestry. I highly recommend it to anyone that hasn't read it yet.

        It was because of Bill Hollweg's expanded audio dramatization of the Simian Saga that I was introduced to the POTA Yahoo group, and had the flames of my Ape devotion fanned even higher than I thought possible, as I've been an avid fan for most of my life. Many thanks to Mr. Hollweg and the Broken Sea Audio folks for giving me something to experience over and over that I enjoy more each time. I look forward to the continued expanded dramatization of the series.

        Recently, I searched out some great Facebook pages devoted to the Apes, which I also recommend to anyone that hasn't explored that area of The Forbidden Zone of man's world yet.

        It's an honor to be a member of this group and I look forward to meeting all of you.

        Be well and all the best.
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        Group: pota Message: 57781 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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        I haven't read it either.  What's it say?
         
        Anyway, from what we see in BATTLE seems like somebody's talking sperm got around pretty good!



        -----Original Message-----
        From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:57 am
        Subject: [pota] Re: A Thought About "Conquest"

         
        Guess you haven't been reading 'Ape City Chronicles'.

        --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, RedSpy13@... wrote:
        >
        > Greetings, everyone. After seeing all the debate about "Ceasar" being
        > made, I thought of another possible storyline. Remember in "Conquest" when
        > Caesar is chosen as a "superior male" and sent to the breeding complex? I
        > wonder if the offspring from that union would be intelligent and have the
        > power of speech. Just something I'm surprised has never been explored.
        >
        > Jeff (RedSpy)
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 57782 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Re: Marvel POTA Poll
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        I think I remember answering that poll, which would account for PLANET being #1.
         
        Don't recall what I thought of CONQUEST being #2, but it probably didn't surprise me.  I can understand why ESCAPE wouldn't be that popular with the fan boy crowd, but critically I think it's the best sequel, it's certainly more inventive than all the others.



        -----Original Message-----
        From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 10:56 am
        Subject: [pota] Marvel POTA Poll

         
        Well as promised, here are the results of the poll Marvel took in the '70s:

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        Group: pota Message: 57783 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
        .html

        Welcome aboard! Hope you like the group. Please feel free to explore all its resouces and join in discussions.

        So are you still a New Yorker?


        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "vjcferrante" <vferrante@...> wrote:
        >
        > Hi everybody,
        >
        > I'm new to the POTA Yahoo group and was encouraged by a welcome message from the moderator to post a message and introduce myself.
        >
        > I've been happily marooned on the Planet of the Apes since being transported through time via (the NY area ABC affiliate) channel 7's 4:30 Movie marathons of the 70's. In reading the introduction to Rich Handley's Timeline Of The Planet Of The Apes, I was glad to learn of someone else who had become hooked in the same way. It's a brilliantly executed labor of love that weaves together all the various media created for the franchise into a fascinating chronological tapestry. I highly recommend it to anyone that hasn't read it yet.
        >
        > It was because of Bill Hollweg's expanded audio dramatization of the Simian Saga that I was introduced to the POTA Yahoo group, and had the flames of my Ape devotion fanned even higher than I thought possible, as I've been an avid fan for most of my life. Many thanks to Mr. Hollweg and the Broken Sea Audio folks for giving me something to experience over and over that I enjoy more each time. I look forward to the continued expanded dramatization of the series.
        >
        > Recently, I searched out some great Facebook pages devoted to the Apes, which I also recommend to anyone that hasn't explored that area of The Forbidden Zone of man's world yet.
        >
        > It's an honor to be a member of this group and I look forward to meeting all of you.
        >
        > Be well and all the best.
        >

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        Group: pota Message: 57784 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
        .html

        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

        >
        >
        > I haven't read it either. What's it say?
        >

        Well you'll just have to read it to find out: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm

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        Group: pota Message: 57785 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
        .html
        welcome, fellow simian.
        jess.

        On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:33 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

        Welcome aboard! Hope you like the group. Please feel free to explore all its resouces and join in discussions.

        So are you still a New Yorker?


        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "vjcferrante" <vferrante@...> wrote:
        >
        > Hi everybody,
        >
        > I'm new to the POTA Yahoo group and was encouraged by a welcome message from the moderator to post a message and introduce myself.
        >
        > I've been happily marooned on the Planet of the Apes since being transported through time via (the NY area ABC affiliate) channel 7's 4:30 Movie marathons of the 70's. In reading the introduction to Rich Handley's Timeline Of The Planet Of The Apes, I was glad to learn of someone else who had become hooked in the same way. It's a brilliantly executed labor of love that weaves together all the various media created for the franchise into a fascinating chronological tapestry. I highly recommend it to anyone that hasn't read it yet.
        >
        > It was because of Bill Hollweg's expanded audio dramatization of the Simian Saga that I was introduced to the POTA Yahoo group, and had the flames of my Ape devotion fanned even higher than I thought possible, as I've been an avid fan for most of my life. Many thanks to Mr. Hollweg and the Broken Sea Audio folks for giving me something to experience over and over that I enjoy more each time. I look forward to the continued expanded dramatization of the series.
        >
        > Recently, I searched out some great Facebook pages devoted to the Apes, which I also recommend to anyone that hasn't explored that area of The Forbidden Zone of man's world yet.
        >
        > It's an honor to be a member of this group and I look forward to meeting all of you.
        >
        > Be well and all the best.
        >


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        Group: pota Message: 57786 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
        .html
        .html
          It's interesting to keep tabs on what Fox is doing with their franchises and wonder how that will effect the POTA reboot. Word is Fox has two terrific (terrific in Foxese) "X-Men" scripts and want a movie for 2011. I guess that would mean no "Caesar" until 2012. 2011 would make an even 10 years since Burton's effort but if "Caesar" came out then it would probably take a backseat to Fox's favorite franchise.
          Jamie Moss, who wrote the "X-Men: First Class" script Fox flipped for, was/is also a "Caesar" writer.
         
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        Group: pota Message: 57787 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/26/2010
        Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
        .html
        I like X-Men like the next guy, but im sick of x-men this x-men that, is this all Fox has. If I were Fox I would be embarassed. C'mon already!..John M.
        --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
        >
        > It's interesting to keep tabs on what Fox is doing with their franchises and wonder how that will effect the POTA reboot. Word is Fox has two terrific (terrific in Foxese) "X-Men" scripts and want a movie for 2011. I guess that would mean no "Caesar" until 2012. 2011 would make an even 10 years since Burton's effort but if "Caesar" came out then it would probably take a backseat to Fox's favorite franchise.
        > Jamie Moss, who wrote the "X-Men: First Class" script Fox flipped for, was/is also a "Caesar" writer.
        >
        > http://www.deadline.com/2010/03/singer-to-producex-men-first-class/
        >
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        Group: pota Message: 57788 From: James Date: 3/27/2010
        Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
        .html
        .html

        FYI

         

        Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"

        The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes: Definitions Used in ...
        By b1-66er
        EPOTA -- The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes, a special 24HoTV event starting at 18:00 Pacific Time Friday, March 26, 2010 and running approximately 48 hours. The goal of EPOTA is to watch the UPA DVD boxset in one sitting; ...
        The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes - http://24hoursoftv.blogspot.com/

        The Fredösphere
        I'm very pleased to introduce Chris Lawless, a true expert on the Planet of the Apes films. Chris saw my old posts on POTA, which focused on the church ...

        Planet of the Apes, 1968 - Top 10 Time Travel Movies - TIME
        "Somewhere in the universe there must be something better than man." Imagine a world where apes run the show and humans are uncivilized creatures stuffed in ...

        Planet of the Apes custom mego soldier ape Zako TV show | Custom ...
        By Customizer
        Custom carded mego soldier ape. Limited edition of 25. Comes with accessories and carded as shown. Backdrop not included. Click here to see the auction
        Custom Action Figures - http://www.customactionfigures.net/

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        Group: pota Message: 57789 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/27/2010
        Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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        .html
        I never thought it was Lisa anyway. It resembles her but is not quite her if you look closely enough.
         
        I guess all apes look alike to most humans. You anti-simanites should be ashamed of yourselves. 


        From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 10:01:16 AM
        Subject: [pota] Re: A Thought About "Conquest"

         

        According to the script, it is not Lisa.

        https://pota. goatley.com/ scripts/pota_ conquest_ finalshooting. pdf

        --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
        >
        >
        > I still say that's Lisa in that picture.
        >
        > Kevin (PofTAfan@.. .)
        >
        >


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        Group: pota Message: 57790 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/27/2010
        Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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        .html
         
        It wasn't in the book,but
        it's not really important
        to the story either way.
        I suppose if it were it
        makes a nice twist in
        the love interest plot
        line.  But not pivotal.
         
         
        In a message dated 3/27/2010 1:52:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes:
        I never thought it was Lisa anyway
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        Group: pota Message: 57791 From: Muppet John Date: 3/27/2010
        Subject: The Forbidden Zine
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        Has anyone checked out "The Forbidden Zine?" The quality printing & full color pages were a lot more impressive than I was imagining. Some great articles & content from Ty, the folks at BLAM!, Jessica, Graham & his painting style, all with full color pictures & if your a fan of the comics Michael & Neil produce you can't beat seeing them printed in full color. I haven't been this surprised by a fanzine since "Apesfan" years ago. I really think everyone will be impressed with what they get for their money.
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        Group: pota Message: 57792 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/27/2010
        Subject: Forbidden Zine #1
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          Just wanted to let everyone know that the first issue of the Forbidden Zine, the brand new colour POTA Fanzine is now available. Apologies for the slightly later than advised release due to last minute teething problems.
           
          Issue#1 is shipping now and copies are going fast. To secure your copy all you need to do is PayPal US$20 to:mswhitty@...  Free postage to anywhere in the world included in the price!
           
           
          This first issue showcases the art of Neil T. Foster with the comics 'Planet of the Apes GENESIS Part 1: Conception' and 'Planet of the Apes BEGINS'.
           
          Ty Templeton has provided various stages of the covers planned for the REVOLUTION on the Planet of the Apes comic series, presented in a centrefold page.
           
          We take a look at some never before seen artwork by E M Gist being prepared for Blam! Ventures' CONSPIRACY of the Planet of the Apes book.
           
          Artist Graham Hill provides an article explaining his unique technique for painting Planet of the Apes characters.
           
          Jessica Rotich gives instruction on making a 1:1 Planet of the Apes Costume.
           
          Neil Moxham tells us about the Planet of the Apes Wiki site.
           
          All this and more!
           
          Cheers,
          Neil
           
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          Group: pota Message: 57795 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/27/2010
          Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
          .html

          I like X-Men like the next guy, but im sick of x-men this x-men that, is this all Fox has. If I were Fox I would be embarassed. C'mon already!..John M.

          If the studios had any shame they wouldn't be eating their own children with all those remakes and reboots.


          -----Original Message-----
          From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 9:37 pm
          Subject: [pota] Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?

           

          I like X-Men like the next guy, but im sick of x-men this x-men that, is this all Fox has. If I were Fox I would be embarassed. C'mon already!..John M.
          --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
          >
          > It's interesting to keep tabs on what Fox is doing with their franchises and wonder how that will effect the POTA reboot. Word is Fox has two terrific (terrific in Foxese) "X-Men" scripts and want a movie for 2011. I guess that would mean no "Caesar" until 2012. 2011 would make an even 10 years since Burton's effort but if "Caesar" came out then it would probably take a backseat to Fox's favorite franchise.
          > Jamie Moss, who wrote the "X-Men: First Class" script Fox flipped for, was/is also a "Caesar" writer.
          >
          > http://www.deadline .com/2010/ 03/singer- to-producex- men-first- class/
          >

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          Group: pota Message: 57796 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/27/2010
          Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
          .html
          Haven't heard of this Jamie Moss, but I'll bet by this stage he's more a script "tweaker" on CAESAR.
           
          If I know Fox, they're probably trying to figure out how to do CAESAR as cheaply as possible, but I still think it'll be a $75M budget at least.



          -----Original Message-----
          From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
          Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 7:28 pm
          Subject: [pota] OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?

           
            It's interesting to keep tabs on what Fox is doing with their franchises and wonder how that will effect the POTA reboot. Word is Fox has two terrific (terrific in Foxese) "X-Men" scripts and want a movie for 2011. I guess that would mean no "Caesar" until 2012. 2011 would make an even 10 years since Burton's effort but if "Caesar" came out then it would probably take a backseat to Fox's favorite franchise.
            Jamie Moss, who wrote the "X-Men: First Class" script Fox flipped for, was/is also a "Caesar" writer.
           
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          Group: pota Message: 57797 From: scott bosco Date: 3/28/2010
          Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
          .html
          Well, if the ape seen isn't Lisa then an opportunity for within BATTLE could have been with the child that grew from that insemination - the bastard son conceived could have been a viable contender for the right of power after Caesar's death with a conniving and embittered mother who together could have used Aldo to murder little Cornelius.  A kind of mirror upon the whole Ishmael story that brought on the Arab race.  Only this POTA version could have told how this off spring eventually was done in by his own plotting by the Orangutans using the Gorillas to gain control and power leading up to the government scene in PLANET.
          - Scott B.

          --- On Fri, 3/26/10, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

          From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
          Subject: [pota] Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:01 AM

           
          According to the script, it is not Lisa.
          --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
          >
          >
          > I still say that's Lisa in that picture.
          >
          > Kevin (PofTAfan@.. .)
          >
          >

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          Group: pota Message: 57798 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/28/2010
          Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
          .html

          Well I guess you haven't been reading Ape City Chronicles either. :-)


          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
          >
          > Well, if the ape seen isn't Lisa then an opportunity for within BATTLE could have been with the child that grew from that insemination - the bastard son conceived could have been a viable contender for the right of power after Caesar's death with a conniving and embittered mother who together could have used Aldo to murder little Cornelius.  A kind of mirror upon the whole Ishmael story that brought on the Arab race.  Only this POTA version could have told how this off spring eventually was done in by his own plotting by the Orangutans using the Gorillas to gain control and power leading up to the government scene in PLANET.
          > - Scott B.
          >

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          Group: pota Message: 57799 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/28/2010
          Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes, 3/28/2010, 6:30 am
          .html

          When I woke up this morning I caught the end of Battle on AMC's HD channel. I can't believe they didn't show the film in widescreen. They just took the old 4:3 cropped version and stretched it out to fill a 16:9 screen. I'm use to this kind of crap on TBS but am very disappointed in AMC for doing this.


          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 57800 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/28/2010
          Subject: Another Thought About "Conquest"
          .html

          Looking at the film from a narrative basis only, Conquest is the one sequel that most stands on its own. All the other sequels seem more reliant on the audience knowing what had happened in the previous films. In Conquest there is just a little bit of exposition to explain who Caesar is but from there the rest of the story stands on its own.

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          Group: pota Message: 57801 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/28/2010
          Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
          .html
          .html
            After Scott Frank was shown the door, Jamie Moss was announced as the main writer who would reshape "Caesar" more to Fox's liking. The original writers before Scott Frank, Jaffe and Silver ("The Hand That Rocks the Cradle") were going to "polish the dialogue". When the new director Rupert Wyatt was announced the only writers mentioned were Jaffe and Silver.
           Jamie Moss had also been working on "X-Men: First Class", based on Bryan Singer's ideas. My "theory" is that Fox put Moss on "Caesar" to keep him employed while they waited for Singer to be available. Based on that new item, that Fox doesn't want to wait for Singer, I think they put Moss back on "First Class" to get it ready for filming, and are just going to let Jaffe and Silver bring "Caesar" to completion. That sounds good to me that the original writers are getting to finish what they started instead of bringing in the infamous "too many cooks".
            The word is that Fox is hot to make movies with all their "Avatar" cash, so "Caesar" might happen quickly. A rolling "Caesar" gathers no Moss.

          Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:28 PM
          Subject: [pota] Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?

           

          Haven't heard of this Jamie Moss, but I'll bet by this stage he's more a script "tweaker" on CAESAR.
           
          If I know Fox, they're probably trying to figure out how to do CAESAR as cheaply as possible, but I still think it'll be a $75M budget at least.



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          Group: pota Message: 57802 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/28/2010
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          I think we're looking at Summer 2012 for CAESAR.



          -----Original Message-----
          From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Sun, Mar 28, 2010 12:45 pm
          Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?

           
            After Scott Frank was shown the door, Jamie Moss was announced as the main writer who would reshape "Caesar" more to Fox's liking. The original writers before Scott Frank, Jaffe and Silver ("The Hand That Rocks the Cradle") were going to "polish the dialogue". When the new director Rupert Wyatt was announced the only writers mentioned were Jaffe and Silver.
           Jamie Moss had also been working on "X-Men: First Class", based on Bryan Singer's ideas. My "theory" is that Fox put Moss on "Caesar" to keep him employed while they waited for Singer to be available. Based on that new item, that Fox doesn't want to wait for Singer, I think they put Moss back on "First Class" to get it ready for filming, and are just going to let Jaffe and Silver bring "Caesar" to completion. That sounds good to me that the original writers are getting to finish what they started instead of bringing in the infamous "too many cooks".
            The word is that Fox is hot to make movies with all their "Avatar" cash, so "Caesar" might happen quickly. A rolling "Caesar" gathers no Moss.

          Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:28 PM
          Subject: [pota] Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?

           
          Haven't heard of this Jamie Moss, but I'll bet by this stage he's more a script "tweaker" on CAESAR.
           
          If I know Fox, they're probably trying to figure out how to do CAESAR as cheaply as possible, but I still think it'll be a $75M budget at least.



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          Group: pota Message: 57803 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/28/2010
          Subject: Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes, 3/28/2010, 6:30 am
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          I don't even get AMC in HD, but what you describe doesn't surprise me.  AMC is very hit or miss.



          -----Original Message-----
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          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Sun, Mar 28, 2010 10:56 am
          Subject: [pota] Re: Battle for the Planet of the Apes, 3/28/2010, 6:30 am

           
          When I woke up this morning I caught the end of Battle on AMC's HD channel. I can't believe they didn't show the film in widescreen. They just took the old 4:3 cropped version and stretched it out to fill a 16:9 screen. I'm use to this kind of crap on TBS but am very disappointed in AMC for doing this.

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          Group: pota Message: 57804 From: lawford42 Date: 3/28/2010
          Subject: Re: Heritage Gallery Auction.....LISA costume
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          Did you notice the prices on the Marvel mags at the bottom of the list? Obviously they're owned by people who have no appreciation for POTA and are trying to sell them to a collector because they think a collector will blindly pay whatever the asking price is. As they say on Pawn Stars, just because it's old, that doesn't mean it's worth tons of money.
           
           
          Chris L.
           
           
           
          "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
           
          >>Who's got some extra bucks??? Jess???

          Natalie's Lisa Battle costume and a generic male chimp for sale!!
          Plus a few other pieces....

          http://www.ha. com/common/ search_items. php?txtSearch= planet+of+ the+apes& ic=homepage_ search&hdnSearch =true&optGlobalS earch=1 <<<.html

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          Group: pota Message: 57805 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/28/2010
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          I wonder if that really is Natalie's Battle costume. It doesn't have the chimp inner sleeves and also the brown yarn bits look kind of funky and home made.
          Jess.

          On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:06 PM, lawford42 <lawford42@...> wrote:

          Did you notice the prices on the Marvel mags at the bottom of the list? Obviously they're owned by people who have no appreciation for POTA and are trying to sell them to a collector because they think a collector will blindly pay whatever the asking price is. As they say on Pawn Stars, just because it's old, that doesn't mean it's worth tons of money.
          Chris L.
          "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
          >>Who's got some extra bucks??? Jess???

          Natalie's Lisa Battle costume and a generic male chimp for sale!!
          Plus a few other pieces....

          http://www.ha.com/common/search_items.php?txtSearch=planet+of+the+apes&ic=homepage_search&hdnSearch=true&optGlobalSearch=1 <<


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          Group: pota Message: 57806 From: rassmguy Date: 3/28/2010
          Subject: R.I.P. Mike Valerio
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          Mike Valerio, author of Malibu's one-shot, Planet of the Apes: Sins of the Father, has passed away:

          http://comics.gearlive.com/comix411/article/q308-r.i.p.-mike-valerio/

          This is a sad day for Apes fandom. Valerio was a nice guy who was very gracious in providing me materials for my books, and very pleasant to talk to. I still consider Sins of the Father one of the best POTA spinoff tales ever written, and I wish we'd been able to see more from him. R.I.P., Mike.
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          Group: pota Message: 57807 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 3/28/2010
          Subject: R.I.P. Mike Valerio
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          Wow this is terrible news
          Mike was such a friendly guy
          I interviewed him 2 years ago
          and luckily we talked in depth about his interest in POTA and the creation and characters etc of Sins Of The Father
           
          The entire interview plus rare sketches and plot scripts are all found in
          Ape Chronicles 44
          info at
           
          I’m so glad I was able to interview him and get the details from him
          It just shows that we never know how much life is left and you shouldn't take anything for granted
          Sins Of The Father has always been my favorite POTA comic script !
           
           

          From: rassmguy
          Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:36 PM
          Subject: [pota] R.I.P. Mike Valerio

           

          Mike Valerio, author of Malibu's one-shot, Planet of the Apes: Sins of the Father, has passed away:

          http://comics. gearlive. com/comix411/ article/q308- r.i.p.-mike- valerio/

          This is a sad day for Apes fandom. Valerio was a nice guy who was very gracious in providing me materials for my books, and very pleasant to talk to. I still consider Sins of the Father one of the best POTA spinoff tales ever written, and I wish we'd been able to see more from him. R.I.P., Mike.

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          Group: pota Message: 57808 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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          See that's the kind of POTA movie they should have made.
           
           
          In a message dated 3/28/2010 7:59:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, digitalcinema@... writes:
          Well, if the ape seen isn't Lisa then an opportunity for within BATTLE could have been with the child that grew from that insemination - the bastard son conceived could have been a viable contender for the right of power after Caesar's death with a conniving and embittered mother who together could have used Aldo to murder little Cornelius. 
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          Group: pota Message: 57809 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
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          As far as too many cooks, Wilson overhauled Serling's script,
          and that didn't turn out too bad.  On the other hand they brought
          in a couple of hacks to do the same thing last time, and that didn't
          work out so well.  As for it getting made quickly, they dragged their
          feet for a decade last time, then rushed it out.  Again, didn't turn out well.
           
          In a message dated 3/28/2010 12:24:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
          That sounds good to me that the original writers are getting to finish what they started instead of bringing in the infamous "too many cooks".
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          Group: pota Message: 57810 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: OT: "Caesar" taking a back seat to "X-Men"?
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          After that Burton fiasco, I'm prepared to be severely disappointed.
          Jess.

          On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:23 PM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

          As far as too many cooks, Wilson overhauled Serling's script,
          and that didn't turn out too bad. On the other hand they brought
          in a couple of hacks to do the same thing last time, and that didn't
          work out so well. As for it getting made quickly, they dragged their
          feet for a decade last time, then rushed it out. Again, didn't turn out well.
          In a message dated 3/28/2010 12:24:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
          That sounds good to me that the original writers are getting to finish what they started instead of bringing in the infamous "too many cooks".


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          Group: pota Message: 57811 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: Child-sized gorilla
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          Tadah!!! Almost there! Just have to do boot covers and cuffs, and finalize the makeup. Sooooooo exciting!
          Jess.


          On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:06 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
          Dylan's outfit is not together yet, but at least I've finished hairing up the pullover hood. Waiting for rubber mask grease to be delivered (can't find my original set, darn it!) and still have LOADS to do. *sigh* How did I ever get to this predicament...I am SOOOOOOO under the gun....
          Waiting for the clear latex to dry up around the hairline so that I can add more rubber latex and eventually smooth out the sewn portion of the hair weft. I love how the hair lays nicely around the neck. I used three packages of fake wefts of hair to fluff up the hair. Too bad my boys are not hard core ape fans...they won't let me grease up their eyes and hands...I guess more rubber mask grease for me! Oh well. I should just be glad they are willing to go to Wondercon in ape costumes. :)
          Jess.

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          Group: pota Message: 57812 From: smugster2000 Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Stoned
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          Regarding the time Oliver Stone spent trying to revive the APES, I'd heard a comment likening it to 'The Flintstones' but I'd never heard the Baseball idea before... God bless all Fox execs!!! :0)


          "Terry Hayes, the writer of The Road Warrior, did a draft, and Phillip Noyce was briefly attached to direct. Stan Winston was hired to do the ape suits, which were described as 'animatronic.' The studio and the filmmakers drifted apart over time, though, as Fox wanted more prehistoric comedy; Don Murphy, who was on the film as a producer, told writer David Hughes that a Fox exec was fixated on the idea of the prehistoric monkeys playing baseball but missing an important element, like a pitcher, that Arnold could supply."


          (From an article on CHUD)
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          Group: pota Message: 57813 From: vjcferrante Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
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          Thanks, Jess and James, for the welcome.

          I moved to Connecticut in 2003 when I got married, James, but I still visit the forbidden city a few times a year on comic book-related expeditions for a title that I publish. Planet of the Apes is one of my main influences, so I still feel like I'm on the best set in the world when I'm in NYC. I would really dig visiting the stretch of beach from the end of Planet in what I believe is now state park land. I acted out the final scene from the first film on a deserted beach on Cape Cod for my own amusement some years ago, and any nearby residents who could hear me screaming, "You maniacs! You blew it up!" I did it five times. It was fun.

          Talk to you later. Be well.

          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
          >
          > welcome, fellow simian.
          >
          > jess.
          >
          > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:33 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
          >
          > >
          > >
          > > *Welcome aboard! Hope you like the group. Please feel free to explore all
          > > its resouces and join in discussions. *
          > >
          > > *So are you still a New Yorker?*
          > >
          > >
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          Group: pota Message: 57814 From: James Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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          FYI

           

          Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"

          The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes: quote of the moment
          By b1-66er
          "So this is a battle... for the entire planet, according to the title... and yet it involves a schoolbus, a motorcycle and a couple of cabs... against about three dozen apes. That's the battle for the Planet of the Apes." ...
          The Entirety of the Planet of the Apes - http://24hoursoftv.blogspot.com/

          Planet of the Apes (1968) Review | DoBlu.com
          By Matt Paprocki
          It is a parable, a brilliant one at that, about the way man lives and fights. More importantly, it tells its own story about a new culture, one terrified of its past...
          DoBlu.com Blu-Ray Reviews - http://www.doblu.com/

          http://nt1.ggpht.com/news/tbn/jTXbTuwDM94J

          Comix 411

          RIP Mike Valerio
          Comix 411
          Mike had dozens of pop culture obsessions and one of them was Planet of the Apes continuity, specifically what the planet was like before any astronaut ...
          See all stories on this topic

          Planet of the Apes on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
          By nobody@... (artpunk)
          Camera: Bronica SQ-A Film: Konica Professional 400 (220)
          Uploads from artpunk - http://www.flickr.com/photos/punkclown/

           

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          Group: pota Message: 57815 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
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          Tell us more about the comic you publish and how it is influenced by POTA.


          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "vjcferrante" <vferrante@...> wrote:
          >
          > Thanks, Jess and James, for the welcome.
          >
          > I moved to Connecticut in 2003 when I got married, James, but I still visit the forbidden city a few times a year on comic book-related expeditions for a title that I publish. Planet of the Apes is one of my main influences, so I still feel like I'm on the best set in the world when I'm in NYC. I would really dig visiting the stretch of beach from the end of Planet in what I believe is now state park land. I acted out the final scene from the first film on a deserted beach on Cape Cod for my own amusement some years ago, and any nearby residents who could hear me screaming, "You maniacs! You blew it up!" I did it five times. It was fun.
          >
          > Talk to you later. Be well.
          >

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          Group: pota Message: 57816 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: Child-sized gorilla
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          That looks fantastic Jess! Dylan's going to be the hit of WonderCon.

          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
          >
          > Tadah!!! Almost there! Just have to do boot covers and cuffs, and finalize
          > the makeup. Sooooooo exciting!
          >
          > *http://img188.imageshack.us/i/dsc03033y.jpg/*<http://img188.imageshack.us/i/dsc03033y.jpg/>
          >
          >
          > Jess.
          >
          >

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          Group: pota Message: 57817 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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          Just sounds like a plot for "As the Planet of the Apes Turns," or "The Edge of the Forbidden Zone," or "All My Hairy Ape Children," or "The Young and the Restless Gorillas".....



          -----Original Message-----
          From: LordTZer0@...
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 1:17 am
          Subject: Re: [pota] Re: A Thought About "Conquest"

           
           
          See that's the kind of POTA movie they should have made.
           
           
          In a message dated 3/28/2010 7:59:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, digitalcinema@ yahoo.com writes:
          Well, if the ape seen isn't Lisa then an opportunity for within BATTLE could have been with the child that grew from that insemination - the bastard son conceived could have been a viable contender for the right of power after Caesar's death with a conniving and embittered mother who together could have used Aldo to murder little Cornelius. 
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          Group: pota Message: 57818 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
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          Tell him where he can check out recent shots of Point Dume in the locatios section, James.



          -----Original Message-----
          From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 11:19 am
          Subject: [pota] Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse

           
          Tell us more about the comic you publish and how it is influenced by POTA.

          --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "vjcferrante" <vferrante@.. .> wrote:
          >
          > Thanks, Jess and James, for the welcome.
          >
          > I moved to Connecticut in 2003 when I got married, James, but I still visit the forbidden city a few times a year on comic book-related expeditions for a title that I publish. Planet of the Apes is one of my main influences, so I still feel like I'm on the best set in the world when I'm in NYC. I would really dig visiting the stretch of beach from the end of Planet in what I believe is now state park land. I acted out the final scene from the first film on a deserted beach on Cape Cod for my own amusement some years ago, and any nearby residents who could hear me screaming, "You maniacs! You blew it up!" I did it five times. It was fun.
          >
          > Talk to you later. Be well.
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 57819 From: vjcferrante Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: A Simian Oasis Within the Madhouse
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          Hi James,

          Sure. Thanks for the interest. The comic book is called Witch Hunter. It's not about hunting witches. The hero was burned at the stake as a boy in 1692 for being a witch and resurrected 300 years later to fight the powers that be who lurk in the shadows when he grew to adulthood in modern day. This nefarious group of old races, like Dark Elves, Goblins, etc., led by an evil man with a great deal of magical power, is called The Scarlet Circle. They get the finger of blame pointed at everyone but themselves for the world's ills while they steal all the magic for themselves for some, as yet, undisclosed endgame. They are the actual ones who stage witch hunts, metaphorical and literal, and Witch Hunter hunts the hunters while trying to wake the world up to its shortcomings and its potential. People like Witch Hunter because he has a trademark smirk, literally, and he doesn't take himself too seriously while doing his best to infuriate The Scarlet Circle in his attempts to thwart their plans.

          Planet of the Apes theme of humanity's inhumanity to itself as it rushes headlong to doomsday impacted me greatly early on, as well as the question of whether we can avert disaster if we know it's coming. I wanted to take a different turn from the dark, brooding hero who takes himself too seriously or the too lighthearted hero who just makes jokes to anger and trip up his foes. As a result, Witch Hunter reasons as he reaches adulthood that if getting burned at the stake was the worst thing that could happen to him, nothing else could be all that bad, so he resolves to do his best to inspire others to take stock of themselves and what humanity can become through his example, and hopefully make them realize their potential along the way. While he'll do his best to turn the tide in its favor, humanity will have to save itself. My other major influences are Dark Shadows, the novels A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller, Jr., Strands of Starlight by Gael Baudino, the works of Zenna Henderson, The Dark is Rising Cycle by Susan Cooper, and the comic books Kamandi and Tomb of Dracula. Ultimately, I hope to just tell a good adventure story that entertains people and touches them in one way or another. We steer our own fate but there are always many who try to alter our course, and often it gets pretty bad before it gets better, which is where it will really get fun.

          I've laid the basics out in the first few issues released and on the MySpace, Facebook, and company (www.monarchcomicslair.com) sites, and been honored at the initial response from fans, some industry folks, and the press, especially at the NY Comic Con where we exhibit every year. Thanks again for asking and I hope my response wasn't too long. I love Witch Hunter. He's my oldest friend and it's a labor of love that continues to attract new people to help me chart his course. Planet of the Apes and the other influences have given me so much, and I hope that I can give other people the enjoyment I've experienced.




          --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
          >
          >
          > Tell us more about the comic you publish and how it is influenced by
          > POTA.
          >
          >
          > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "vjcferrante" <vferrante@> wrote:
          > >
          > > Thanks, Jess and James, for the welcome.
          > >
          > > I moved to Connecticut in 2003 when I got married, James, but I still
          > visit the forbidden city a few times a year on comic book-related
          > expeditions for a title that I publish. Planet of the Apes is one of my
          > main influences, so I still feel like I'm on the best set in the world
          > when I'm in NYC. I would really dig visiting the stretch of beach from
          > the end of Planet in what I believe is now state park land. I acted out
          > the final scene from the first film on a deserted beach on Cape Cod for
          > my own amusement some years ago, and any nearby residents who could hear
          > me screaming, "You maniacs! You blew it up!" I did it five times. It was
          > fun.
          > >
          > > Talk to you later. Be well.
          > >
          >
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          Group: pota Message: 57820 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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          Awesome!! I like the first and last titles best!!


          From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 12:47:03 PM
          Subject: [pota] Re: A Thought About "Conquest"

           

          Just sounds like a plot for "As the Planet of the Apes Turns," or "The Edge of the Forbidden Zone," or "All My Hairy Ape Children," or "The Young and the Restless Gorillas"... ..



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          Group: pota Message: 57821 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: Stoned
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            Stone's POTA was going to be produced by Don Murphy and Jane Hamsher, who produced his "Natural Born Killers" (Murphy was the one who was a big "Apes" fan and convinced Stone to do it). Hamsher told that story and others in her book "Killer Instinct". It wasn't Fox that wanted the "Flintstones" touch as much as the executive assigned to the movie. That was in 1994 when that live-action "Flintstones" movie was a hit. You know studio executives, they get paid the big bucks to copy whatever is at the top of the box office list. With "Alice in Wonderland" a big hit, they'll probably say of "Caesar", "this should be like a Tim Burton movie!".

          Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:25 AM
          Subject: [pota] Stoned

           

          Regarding the time Oliver Stone spent trying to revive the APES, I'd heard a comment likening it to 'The Flintstones' but I'd never heard the Baseball idea before... God bless all Fox execs!!! :0)

          "Terry Hayes, the writer of The Road Warrior, did a draft, and Phillip Noyce was briefly attached to direct. Stan Winston was hired to do the ape suits, which were described as 'animatronic. ' The studio and the filmmakers drifted apart over time, though, as Fox wanted more prehistoric comedy; Don Murphy, who was on the film as a producer, told writer David Hughes that a Fox exec was fixated on the idea of the prehistoric monkeys playing baseball but missing an important element, like a pitcher, that Arnold could supply."

          (From an article on CHUD)

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          Group: pota Message: 57822 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 3/29/2010
          Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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          or Zaius of our Lives...General Ursus Hospital
          ----- Original Message -----
          Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 9:47 AM
          Subject: [pota] Re: A Thought About "Conquest"

           

          Just sounds like a plot for "As the Planet of the Apes Turns," or "The Edge of the Forbidden Zone," or "All My Hairy Ape Children," or "The Young and the Restless Gorillas"... ..



          -----Original Message-----
          From: LordTZer0@AOL. com
          To: pota@yahoogroups. com
          Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 1:17 am
          Subject: Re: [pota] Re: A Thought About "Conquest"

           
           
          See that's the kind of POTA movie they should have made.
           
           
          In a message dated 3/28/2010 7:59:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, digitalcinema@ yahoo.com writes:
          Well, if the ape seen isn't Lisa then an opportunity for within BATTLE could have been with the child that grew from that insemination - the bastard son conceived could have been a viable contender for the right of power after Caesar's death with a conniving and embittered mother who together could have used Aldo to murder little Cornelius. 

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          Group: pota Message: 57823 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/30/2010
          Subject: Re: Child-sized gorilla
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          Very Cool!
           
          In a message dated 3/29/2010 3:00:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:
           

          Tadah!!!  Almost there!  Just have to do boot covers and cuffs, and finalize the makeup.  Sooooooo exciting!
           
           
           
          Jess.


           
          On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:06 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
          Dylan's outfit is not together yet, but at least I've finished hairing up the pullover hood.  Waiting for rubber mask grease to be delivered (can't find my original set, darn it!) and still have LOADS to do.  *sigh*  How did I ever get to this predicament. ..I am SOOOOOOO under the gun....
           
           
          Waiting for the clear latex to dry up around the hairline so that I can add more rubber latex and eventually smooth out the sewn portion of the hair weft.  I love how the hair lays nicely around the neck.  I used three packages of fake wefts of hair to fluff up the hair.  Too bad my boys are not hard core ape fans...they won't let me grease up their eyes and hands...I guess more rubber mask grease for me!  Oh well.  I should just be glad they are willing to go to Wondercon in ape costumes.  :) 
           
           
           
          Jess.

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          Group: pota Message: 57824 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/30/2010
          Subject: Re: Stoned
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          Sam Hamm's screenplay was actually pretty good.
          That's the one they should have made, but . . .
           
          "Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda, Raj."
          ~~~Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory~~~~
           
           
          In a message dated 3/29/2010 8:24:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smugster2000@... writes:
          Terry Hayes, the writer of The Road Warrior, did a draft
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          Group: pota Message: 57825 From: scott bosco Date: 3/30/2010
          Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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          It can be, but at least it based on an actual part of human history.  Like much of the APE lore, a mirror of human events - negitive events, which showcase the more we're different the more we're actually alike.
          - Scott B.

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          From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
          Subject: [pota] Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 12:47 PM

           
          Just sounds like a plot for "As the Planet of the Apes Turns," or "The Edge of the Forbidden Zone," or "All My Hairy Ape Children," or "The Young and the Restless Gorillas"... ..



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          Group: pota Message: 57826 From: James Date: 3/30/2010
          Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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          FYI

           

          Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"

          The Awards Psychic: Top 50 Sci-Fi/Fantasy/Comic Book Movies of All ...
          By Andrew
          Planet of the Apes (1968) – Before there were sequels and horrible remakes (sorry Tim), this Charlton Heston classic, introduced us to the futuristic world where apes were in charge, and humans were subordinate. ...
          The Awards Psychic - http://theawardspsychic.blogspot.com/

          Planet of the Apes Pepsi Commercial
          This bizarre Japanese TV commercial was done to tie in to Tim Burton's 2001 remake of Planet of the Apes.
          Earth's Mightiest Fansites - http://www.earthsmightiest.com/

           

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          Group: pota Message: 57827 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/30/2010
          Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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          More awesomeness!! Now these are soap opera's I'd watch in a heartbeat!!


          From: Jeff Barkley <skintricks@...>
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 8:30:29 PM
          Subject: Re: [pota] Re: A Thought About "Conquest"

           

          

          or Zaius of our Lives...General Ursus Hospital
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          Group: pota Message: 57828 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/30/2010
          Subject: Re: A Thought About "Conquest"
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          Good point Scott (though I still love those soap titles). Others claiming thrones has led to considerable drama throughout human history.


          From: scott bosco <digitalcinema@...>
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 7:30:44 AM
          Subject: Re: [pota] Re: A Thought About "Conquest"

           

          It can be, but at least it based on an actual part of human history.  Like much of the APE lore, a mirror of human events - negitive events, which showcase the more we're different the more we're actually alike.
          - Scott B.

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          Group: pota Message: 57829 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/30/2010
          Subject: Birthday Reminder
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          Group: pota Message: 57831 From: James Date: 3/31/2010
          Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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          FYI

           

          Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"

          Tuesday Toy Commercial: MEGO Planet Of The Apes « United Monkee
          By TJDietsch
          I do, however, love the Planet Of The Apes movies, however and was super jazzed last year (or was it two years back now?) when Diamond Select Toys and EMCE teamed up to re-release the POTA MEGOs. Unfortunately, I only got the first two ...
          United Monkee - http://unitedmonkee.com/

          Planet of the Apes « 212 Films, 7 Months
          By 212 Films, 7 Months
          Planet of the Apes. 7.45pm – I don't mind watching this movie but I really just want to watch one of these movies on my list and not have to worry about notes. However, I will try my best but I don't promise anything. Sorry. ...
          212 Films, 7 Months - http://212films7months.wordpress.com/

           

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          Group: pota Message: 57832 From: William Burge Date: 3/31/2010
          Subject: planet photos
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          dear group, found some planet items on ebay the actors life is hestons first book in 1978 20 years of film journals a great read. from william burge

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