I'm a bit partial to July 14th myself. It is a signifigant date from the film and is in line with the summer event that Rory discussed.

So right now the dates we've discussed are:

• February 8th
• April 3rd
• July 4th
• July 14th
• November 25th

Let me know if I missed any date. In a few days I'll create a poll and everyone can vote on it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> That's a tough call. Everyday is a Planet of the Apes day for me.
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I hate it when PLANET is called a "camp classic."

 

Anyway, a nice looking theatre.  Don't think there's anyone here likely to go, so we won't know the print quality.

 

 

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Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 12:26 pm
Subject: [pota] POTA on screen tomorrow MAY 8 in Massachusetts

 

On Saturday, May 8 at 8 p.m., the Mahaiwe will screen Planet of the Apes (1968), one of the 1960s' most beloved camp classics, starring Charlton Heston, Kim Hunter, and Roddy McDowall. Bewildered astronaut George Taylor (Heston) crash-lands on a strange planet ruled by intelligent apes who use primitive humans for experimentation and sport. Taylor quickly finds himself among the hunted as he struggles to escape the apes' power - and uncover their darkest secret. $6 General Admission.

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On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:

Happy birthday, Hunter!

Al

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I hope they do look like the original,or it will most likely suck like the last attempt.
CGI looks horrible so I hope they do not go that route.
I will continue to hope until I see what they do.
Again if the studio has any brains they will be faithful to the original Apes look,and the only one that will ever matter.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> It's not going to look like the originals. You get a hold of that and hang on to it or you might as well be dead!
>
>
> From: Trin
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 8:48 PM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: "Caesar" gets the green light (reportedly)
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>
>
> Exactly, if they do not look like the originals, It is not THE pLANET OF THE ApEs.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@ wrote:
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> > To my mind, the original make up, clothing, art and architecture were the
> > Planet of the Apes. To me, the story was almost secondary. The visual art
> > is astonishing and I love it.
> >
> > Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
> > bunkermeister.blogspot.com
> > sgtsays.blogspot.com
> > hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 5/5/2010 7:48:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > ursuszaiuscaesar@ writes:
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> > Please let there be some loyalty to the original designs.
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I don't care if it is the end of the franchise if they make a new movie that I am not going to like.

 

The most recent version by Tim Burton was not enough of the franchise for me to get excited.  I saw it in the theater, but despite the fact that I have over a thousand VHS and DVDs, I have not purchased it.  It was not good enough for me to buy, and I don't see any particular advantages that have fallen to the rest of us as a result of that movie either.  I suspect that if it I see a really good buy on it, I might get it, but not because I feel that it is part of the POTA franchise, but rather because it is a marginal science fiction movie and a fair portion of my DVD collection is science fiction.

 

The recent King Kong and Star Trek were excellent movies and I both saw them in the theater and purchased the DVDs.  If I had confidence that the new movie would be like that, I would be more excited.  I don't have that confidence.  Several things bother me.  The CGI part bothers me.  The practical make up and Ape City were very interesting and exciting.  The setting of contemporary San Francisco strikes me as a cheap way to make a movie.  Film in San Francisco and edit in some Apes.  It seems a bit of a cheat to me.

 

A POTA movie that does not have any of the original characters does not seem like much of a POTA movie.  It's one of the reasons even some of the original movies were not that satisfying.  I hope the new movie will be good.  I just don't think it will be good.

 

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com
sgtsays.blogspot.com
hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com

 

In a message dated 5/7/2010 10:20:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hoknescards@... writes:

its interesting that I have not heard a single person happy to hear that a new POTA movie is being made!!

All the posts on line from generic bloggers is also negative!

 

If they do not make a new movie done in the current modern style than a new movie will NEVER be made

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I worked with the director Rupert Wyatt a couple of years ago. Nice guy, but CGI Apes? No thanks. Really -- no. Ugh.

M

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
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> its interesting that I have not heard a single person happy to hear that a new POTA movie is being made!!
> All the posts on line from generic bloggers is also negative!
>
> If they do not make a new movie done in the current modern style than a new movie will NEVER be made
> and that is the end of the franchise!
>

Terry,   your opinion is my opinion, too. Stop with POTA "experiences"! I am a PLANET OF THE APES fan, so I want one INTELIGENT MOTION PICTURE, not a joke like the "new vision" (poor screenplay, ridiculous make-up, stupid characters...) like I saw in Burton's allegoric movie!   Have a nice weekend, Ape friends!   Saulo Adami Adami of the Apes - From Brazil --- Em sex, 7/5/10, Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...> escreveu: De: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...> Assunto: Re: [pota] Re: "Caesar" gets the green light (reportedly) Para: pota@yahoogroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 7 de Maio de 2010, 22:45   its interesting that I have not heard a single person happy to hear that a new POTA movie is being made!! All the posts on line from generic bloggers is also negative!   If they do not make a new movie done in the current modern style than a new movie will NEVER be made and that is the end of the franchise!

 

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I'm happy a new POTA movie is being made. As far as the bloggers, they tend to be negative about everything. It's like their job.

I understand that many fans have their concerns about the new film. After the 2001 Tim "Hack Director" Burton fiasco, I can't blame anyone for being worried that they are screwing it up again. They have to get it right this time or there will be no new POTA movies for another 20 years.

I'm not bothered by the CGI apes, like the final film itself. I'll wait until I see the final product before passing judgement.

One minor concern I have is that the film is set in San Francisco. It makes me think that the screenwriters read Marvel's timeline and mistakenly believe that it was the setting for Conquest.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
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> its interesting that I have not heard a single person happy to hear that a new POTA movie is being made!!
> All the posts on line from generic bloggers is also negative!
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> If they do not make a new movie done in the current modern style than a new movie will NEVER be made
> and that is the end of the franchise!
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Franchise is going to die all that will be left is what's been made alread - so be it.  I've enjoyed in, loved it and enjoy it till I die.  I'd rather that than terrible, boring, stupid and poorly concieved crap produced by no talent hacks. CGI may be good enough for overly tall smurfs but not for the APES.  - Scott B. --- On Fri, 5/7/10, Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...> wrote: From: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: "Caesar" gets the green light (reportedly) To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, May 7, 2010, 9:45 PM   its interesting that I have not heard a single person happy to hear that a new POTA movie is being made!! All the posts on line from generic bloggers is also negative!   If they do not make a new movie done in the current modern style than a new movie will NEVER be made and that is the end of the franchise!

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I took the pix but they're very blurry...I will download them anyway this weekend.

 

Bruce

 

In a message dated 4/28/2010 5:39:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mcreek25@... writes:

 

Thanks, that will be great.

 

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister. blogspot. com
sgtsays.blogspot. com
hystericalrightwing .blogspot. com

 

In a message dated 4/28/2010 8:25:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stenosaurus@ aol.com writes:

OK give me a day or 2 I will shoot it & send it here.

 

Bruce

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Yep, than you James (hack) Camooron) and FOX. It seems the old saying is true - Becareful what you wish for. - Scott --- On Fri, 5/7/10, LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> wrote: From: LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> Subject: Re: [pota] "Rise of the Apes" - - 6/24/11 (and CG apes) To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, May 7, 2010, 8:17 AM   Avatar style photo-realistic apes?   You Maniacs!  You Blew It!  Damn You All To Hell!       In a message dated 5/6/2010 7:57:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:   It's official.

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>>I hate it when PLANET is called a "camp classic." <<

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its interesting that I have not heard a single person happy to hear that a new POTA movie is being made!!

All the posts on line from generic bloggers is also negative!

 

If they do not make a new movie done in the current modern style than a new movie will NEVER be made

and that is the end of the franchise!

I actually have a good vibe about this.  I don't think style matters much, it all depends on how good the script is as to whether it's a franchise killer.  Sounds like Fox has plans for further ones.  Anyway, it's hard to imagine it could be any worse than that Burton debacle -- if that didn't kill the franchise for Fox, it'll take some sort of deadly bacillus to stop those bastards.

 

-- Rory

One minor concern I have is that the film is set in San Francisco. It makes me think that the screenwriters read Marvel's timeline and mistakenly believe that it was the setting for Conquest.

Doesn't bother me.  A prequel to PLANET can be anything, since I'm not "Loopy," and what I'd really be for is a reboot of the entire original sequels thing, so I could pretend BENEATH never happened!

-- Rory

The recent King Kong and Star Trek were excellent movies and I both saw them in the theater and purchased the DVDs.

I thought the new STAR TREK was OK, but not great.

 

Jackson's KING KONG was, for me, a complete waste of time.  I don't think Jackson understood at all what made the original work.

 

-- Rory

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I worked with the director Rupert Wyatt a couple of years ago. Nice guy, but CGI Apes? No thanks. Really -- no. Ugh.

M

I finally saw THE ESCAPIST a few weeks ago on satellite.  I thought it was well-directed, but the structure of the film made it hard to follow, so I didn't think much of it in the end.

 

-- Rory

Considering how the same studio faired with the crappy CGI Lawgiver on the Blu-rays - I'd say this is going to be another schmuck-up.

- Scott B.

Oh, come on!  You're too cynical.  That CGI Lawgiver on the Blu-rays is something cheap.  The CGI apes in the new movie will be done on the level of that creepy thing in the LORD OF THE RING movies.  Can't recall the name of it -- the thing that kept saying "My precious."

Anyway, if the CGI isn't as good as that, Fox might as well be dead.

 

-- Rory

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If the movie were good and contained elements of the original POTA movies, it would improve my life to a small degree, in that I would have another movie that I would love.

 

If the movie is bad, then I would be sad because of a lost opportunity.

 

I can still complain about present day real issues as well, even if I spend five minutes a day talking about Apes.

 

See my blog, Hysterical Right Wing if you think I should be complaining about real world issues, you will find that going on there, every day.

 

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com
sgtsays.blogspot.com
hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com

 

In a message dated 5/8/2010 4:51:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pota1968@... writes:

I really don't see why they should be so unhappy.

I mean after all, either way it isn't going to change their lives one way or the other.

 

I believe people should express their unhappyness with real life issues and leave fantasy where it belongs. In Movies. :o)

 

Al

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Yes, have a great one, Hunter!   Zach            -------Original Message-------   From: Alex Ruiz Date: 05/07/10 13:16:56 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY HUNTER!     Happy birthday, Hunter!   Al From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@aol. com> To: pota@yahoogroups. com Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 8:20:53 AM Subject: [pota] Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY HUNTER!

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I haven't seen a Video Watchdog in ages.  I wondered if it was still published.  I'll bet they'll be pretty hard on the specs of the discs, but they're usually quite detailed and fair.

-----Original Message-----
From: William Burge <billburge48@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: billburge48@...
Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 12:25 am
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dear group, heres a cover from a magazine issue 156  its at barnes and noble books- good apes article. from william burge

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I was on the website www.cinematreasures.org/theater/522/

And found the following comment posted:

I saw 2001 at the Capitol. I remember purchasing the reserved-seat
tickets in advance. I remember being confused and disappointed in the
film, my friend despised it. (I took him years later to see Star Trek:
The Motion Picture and he despised that also.)I still have the program
they sold that night and had it signed by its stars, Keir Dullea and
Gary Lockwood, at a Chiller Theater several years ago. After we left
the theater and were walking to the subway at 42nd St., we saw many
police officers on duty and people exiting limos. It turned out that
the TONY awards were being given that night. I also saw Planet of the
Apes at the Capitol. I remember that the theater was so jammed, people
were sitting in the aisles. It is still one of my all-time favorites.
Other films I saw at the Capital were The Dirty Dozen and In the Heat
of the Night. It was another lavish and beautiful Loews theater.
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I don't mind sequels and spin offs.  5 POTA ape movies, TV show, cartoon and books and comics, sure, works for me.

 

What bothers me is the concept of the sequel with nearly no relationship to the original.  I think of a sequel as a part in a series, same concepts, ideas and characters, but new stories for them.  Fill in the blank spaces, clear up the mysteries, give us some now characters and stories.

 

Lost in Space was a fun campy TV show and they gave us a movie that was awful with only the most tenuous relationship to the original.

 

The Tim Burton Planet of the Apes.  Nothing like I think of when I hear POTA.

 

Use the name to draw us in then disappoint us with something totally different.

 

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com
sgtsays.blogspot.com
hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com

 

In a message dated 5/9/2010 8:51:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

Why do they keep remaking movies over and sequelize to death? Don't they have any original ideas anymore?" The answer is: Yes, there's plenty of original ideas, but the opening weekend is king and the safe bet is the presold. That used to mean movie stars but more it's become the franchise concept.

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Agree Completly. Thats the way I remember it..John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> I was on the website www.cinematreasures.org/theater/522/
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> And found the following comment posted:
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> I saw 2001 at the Capitol. I remember purchasing the reserved-seat
> tickets in advance. I remember being confused and disappointed in the
> film, my friend despised it. (I took him years later to see Star Trek:
> The Motion Picture and he despised that also.)I still have the program
> they sold that night and had it signed by its stars, Keir Dullea and
> Gary Lockwood, at a Chiller Theater several years ago. After we left
> the theater and were walking to the subway at 42nd St., we saw many
> police officers on duty and people exiting limos. It turned out that
> the TONY awards were being given that night. I also saw Planet of the
> Apes at the Capitol. I remember that the theater was so jammed, people
> were sitting in the aisles. It is still one of my all-time favorites.
> Other films I saw at the Capital were The Dirty Dozen and In the Heat
> of the Night. It was another lavish and beautiful Loews theater.
> posted by GaryC. on Jan 2, 2010 at 3:15pm
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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
pota group:

What day should be choosen as "Planet of the Apes" Day?

o February 8th - The date Planet premiered
o February 20th - Pierre Boulle's Birthday
o March 7th - Arthur P. Jacobs' Birthday
o April 3rd - The date Planet went into wide release
o May 17th - The date Boulle's novel was published in 1963
o June 24th - The date 'Rise of the Apes' will premiere
o June 29th - The date Conquest premiered & Alex's birthday
o July 4th - Holiday in US
o July 14th - Date on Taylor's ship's clock at the start of Planet
o November 25th - Date Taylor's ship crashed in 3978


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/surveys?id=2969940

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

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----- Original Message -----

From: pota@yahoogroups.com

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:57 AM

Subject: [pota] New poll for pota

 

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
pota group:

What day should be choosen as "Planet of the Apes" Day?

o February 8th - The date Planet premiered
o February 20th - Pierre Boulle's Birthday
o March 7th - Arthur P. Jacobs' Birthday
o April 3rd - The date Planet went into wide release
o May 17th - The date Boulle's novel was published in 1963
o June 24th - The date 'Rise of the Apes' will premiere
o June 29th - The date Conquest premiered & Alex's birthday
o July 4th - Holiday in US
o July 14th - Date on Taylor's ship's clock at the start of Planet
o November 25th - Date Taylor's ship crashed in 3978

To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ surveys?id= 2969940

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
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I like this date the best.

 

It directly relates to the first movie.

 

Since the first movie started it all, it would seem the best movie to choose from.

 

It does not conflict with other US holidays, Independence Day or Thanksgiving Day.

 

Picking the same date as an existing holiday simply means zero media coverage and conflicts with others who are celebrating the other holiday.

 

It is a summer date in the Northern Hemisphere, where the events in the movie take place.

The movie takes place in good weather, on bright sunny days.  It makes sense to celebrate in the same type of weather.  A November date means deep snow for many of us.

 

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com
sgtsays.blogspot.com
hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com

 

In a message dated 5/11/2010 4:58:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

July 14th - Date on Taylor's ship's clock at the start of Planet

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The cover of this issue is featured on the group's home page (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/) and here's the Table of Contents:

                   

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, V <valwp@...> wrote:
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> Hello, all, long time no speak!
> I've gotten the new issue of Simian Scrolls in for US/Canadian customers. However, I don't have many, so first come first serve this time around. They're $8.00 including shipping. You can write me at valwp@... to get my address and send payment - I can take money orders, checks or as a last resort cash, carefully concealed. I think it's best to only send one issue per customer considering the limited number of magazines, so that more people will have a chance to order a copy.
>  
> I'll be mailing out once a week, most likely Mondays, so if your money comes to me on Tuesday you'll have a few days to wait.
> Kass
>

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Date:		Wednesday May 12, 2010
Time:		All Day
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Location:		Born this day in 1914.
Notes:		Is the only actor to appear in all five films in the 'Planet of the Apes' series. He played an ape in all of them except for Escape in which he played a human, General Faulkner. It was also the only one of the films in which he was credited.
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>
>
>
> Of course you know I'm taking crap.
> I will be counting down Caesar. ;o)
>
> I'll be opening the site next month in June.
>
> Al
>

Cool! How close is this movie to happening? Is there any info on it anywhere online? The reason people are negative about it is because they have Burton's movie fresh in their minds. If they make a good apes movie hopefully it will act as a mouthwash. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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A big Happy Birthday to James Bacon, who (as noted below) is the only person to appear in all 5 of the original POTA films and is 96 years old today.

Bacon had a regular column in the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner from 1966 until 1983. When the POTA films were being shot he would spend a few days on the set shooting his scenes and then write a column about the experience. Unfortunately, since the Herald-Examiner went out of business in 1989, its archives, including Bacon's columns, are not available.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal
>
> James Bacon's Birthday
> Wednesday May 12, 2010
> All Day
> (This event repeats every year.)
> Location: Born this day in 1914.
>
> Notes:
> Is the only actor to appear in all five films in the 'Planet of the Apes' series. He played an ape in all of them except for Escape in which he played a human, General Faulkner. It was also the only one of the films in which he was credited.
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The new movie is being shot this summer and will come out next June. If you want to read more about it look through the group's message archive (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/messages) for the (almost) daily Google alert posts.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "paisleykid1" <mstanley@...> wrote:
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>
> Cool! How close is this movie to happening? Is there any info on it anywhere online? The reason people are negative about it is because they have Burton's movie fresh in their minds. If they make a good apes movie hopefully it will act as a mouthwash. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Sound slike a PLAN!!!!!!

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:

"media coverage"

There will be if we dress up like gorilla soldiers and rampage through towns and cities the world over.

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From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:14:33 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: New poll for pota

Picking the same date as an existing holiday simply means zero media coverage and conflicts with others who are celebrating the other holiday.

What in the hell are we talking about here?!!!!

Does anyone believe there would be "media coverage" of a "Planet of the Apes Day"?

This is getting pretty silly.

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I suppose it depends on the definition of media.

 

Even a Yahoo group counts as media.

 

My blogs get over two thousand hits a weeks, so someone is reading them.

 

I know there are many POTA specific websites and blogs I would think they too would reach thousands of people.

 

With a new movie coming out, we may get a bump of interest out of that.

 

I don't expect it to be on the CBS Evening News or David Letterman, but you have to start somewhere.

 

Even Mothers Day and Talk Like a Pirate Day started off small.

 

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com
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In a message dated 5/12/2010 7:21:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

What in the hell are we talking about here?!!!!

 

Does anyone believe there would be "media coverage" of a "Planet of the Apes Day"?

 

This is getting pretty silly.

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On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:17 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

A big Happy Birthday to James Bacon, who (as noted below) is the only person to appear in all 5 of the original POTA films and is 96 years old today.

Bacon had a regular column in the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner from 1966 until 1983. When the POTA films were being shot he would spend a few days on the set shooting his scenes and then write a column about the experience. Unfortunately, since the Herald-Examiner went out of business in 1989, its archives, including Bacon's columns, are not available.

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What is the deal with the scarecrows?

 

How large are they?  They look about ten feet tall to me.

 

Is the fur just black and orange?  Is is supposed to be gorilla and orangutan fur?

 

Are they bundles of sticks with fur on them?

 

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Could be chimp fur too.

Perhaps the fur of apostates.

 

 

In a message dated 5/12/2010 8:10:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mcreek25@... writes:

Is is supposed to be gorilla and orangutan fur?

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Thanks for the kind words ,John.As agreed, you are now no longer marked for target practice and have been bumped up to experimental brain surgery.Congrats! John, Scrolls.

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> Always look forward to it.
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I heard something on the news today that got me thinking

about the Inland Sea where they crashed.  We tend to think

in terms of saltwater when it comes to seas.  But when you

look at the so called Inland Seas of the Middle East and not

all are.  Sure, something like the Dead Sea is even saltier

than the oceans, like The Great Salt Lake.  Others like the

Sea Of Galilee are just large freshwater lakes.  And still

others like the Red Sea and the Black Sea are at least

brackish because of inlets to a sea or open ocean, the

amount of salinity depending their altitude in relation

to sea level and sources of other waterways.  The

real question is, if the water had tested drinkable,

would they have rehydrated and refilled their

canteens from it? my guess is if they can

test soil and they new they had to walk

out of the desert they would have.

 

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A line cut from the film say the scarecrows were put up by the Hunt Club. The fur could be the fur of other animals that they hunted.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
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> What is the deal with the scarecrows?
>
> How large are they? They look about ten feet tall to me.
>
> Is the fur just black and orange? Is is supposed to be gorilla and
> orangutan fur?
>
> Are they bundles of sticks with fur on them?
>
> Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
> bunkermeister.blogspot.com
> sgtsays.blogspot.com
> hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
>

And no one knows the effects of experimental brain surgery better than John! ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Thanks for the kind words ,John.As agreed, you are now no longer marked for target practice and have been bumped up to experimental brain surgery.Congrats! John, Scrolls.
>

Another line in the script but cut from the final final, Dodge tests the water and says that it is close to 25% salinity.

The script is available on Hunter's site: https://pota.goatley.com/scripts/pota_finalshoot1.pdf

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
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>
> I heard something on the news today that got me thinking
> about the Inland Sea where they crashed. We tend to think
> in terms of saltwater when it comes to seas. But when you
> look at the so called Inland Seas of the Middle East and not
> all are. Sure, something like the Dead Sea is even saltier
> than the oceans, like The Great Salt Lake. Others like the
> Sea Of Galilee are just large freshwater lakes. And still
> others like the Red Sea and the Black Sea are at least
> brackish because of inlets to a sea or open ocean, the
> amount of salinity depending their altitude in relation
> to sea level and sources of other waterways. The
> real question is, if the water had tested drinkable,
> would they have rehydrated and refilled their
> canteens from it? my guess is if they can
> test soil and they new they had to walk
> out of the desert they would have.
>

I've been reading today how studios are 'risk averse' in the current financial climate, which is why they want a built in franchise fanbase and are dusting down old properties.So, we get an Apes re-boot.I'm excited about it, but a little scared too.If we're looking at a rebellion or 'rise' of the Apes, that will need violence on Conquest levels to be realistic.But would Conquest get a general certificate today--which the studio will definitely want? There's nothing worse than a family friendly 'violent' movie.I'd be very worried about a compromised script falling between two stools.Otherwise, I'm thrilled about new Apes! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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>
> The new movie is being shot this summer and will come out next June. If
> you want to read more about it look through the group's message archive
> (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/messages
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/messages> ) for the (almost)
> daily Google alert posts.
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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:

I guess ape does kill ape then? Zaius did threaten to hang Cornelius and Zira.

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Subject: Re: [pota] Scarecrows

Could be chimp fur too. Perhaps the fur of apostates. In a message dated 5/12/2010 8:10:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mcreek25@aol. com writes: Is is supposed to be gorilla and orangutan fur?

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Another line in the script but cut from the final final, Dodge tests the water and says that it is close to 25% salinity.

And it's what was Chesapeake Bay!   No way it was Long Island Sound.  No, no, no, no.... no.

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:

I guess ape does kill ape then? Zaius did threaten to hang Cornelius and Zira.

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Could be chimp fur too. Perhaps the fur of apostates. In a message dated 5/12/2010 8:10:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mcreek25@aol. com writes: Is is supposed to be gorilla and orangutan fur?

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I guess ape does kill ape then? Zaius did threaten to hang Cornelius and Zira.

There's nothing in PLANET to imply that apes do not kill other apes -- maybe not murder their brothers to possess their brother's things like Man done did do -- but the "Ape Shall Never Kill Ape" thing is another one of those wonder Paul Dehn contrivances that belongs exclusively to the world of the sequels, not the world of the original.

In Beneath when the lawgiver is frying Zaius says "bid your soldiers to shoot our poor people" and Ursus replies " I cant order them to do what our Lawgiver has forbidden.."Ape Shall not Kill Ape". If I remember right. The "Hang for high treason" could just be an expression, like " I'll kill you if you do that" and so on. I believe that the Ape shall not kill Ape was even implied in POTA, the gorillas could of simply been ordered to shoot everyone and be done with it. Its anyones guess...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
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> Anyone remember if "Ape shall not kill Ape" appeared in POTA or B-POTA?
> I know it was in BAtlle, but can't recall if it was in any of the others.
>

Your very "hard" on the Apes sequels arent you. Even for the fact that they were made changed cinema history and just for that they should be honnered. Without the sequels and the "Go Ape" festivals Planet of the Apes would of just been another great movie. A jem from the past but not a phenomenom and not something we would be talking about nearly as much as we do. Just my opinion..John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> I guess ape does kill ape then? Zaius did threaten to hang Cornelius and Zira.
>
>
> There's nothing in PLANET to imply that apes do not kill other apes -- maybe not murder their brothers to possess their brother's things like Man done did do -- but the "Ape Shall Never Kill Ape" thing is another one of those wonder Paul Dehn contrivances that belongs exclusively to the world of the sequels, not the world of the original.
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And the gelding?

 

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
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In a message dated 5/13/2010 2:25:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, johnroche49@... writes:

Thanks for the kind words ,John.As agreed, you are now no longer marked for target practice and have been bumped up to experimental brain surgery.Congrats! John, Scrolls.

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I would think if the water was drinkable, they could stay in the raft and circumnavigate the lake looking for good places to stay.  Also there could be fish in there too.

 

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In a message dated 5/13/2010 2:28:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

The real question is, if the water had tested drinkable, would they have rehydrated and refilled their canteens from it?

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I would have suspected animals they hunted provided the fur, but it was made to look like Ape fur to create fear in the humans.

 

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
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In a message dated 5/13/2010 5:16:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

The fur could be the fur of other animals that they hunted.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
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> And the gelding?
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> Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
> bunkermeister.blogspot.com
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> In a message dated 5/13/2010 2:25:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> johnroche49@... writes:
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> Thanks for the kind words ,John.As agreed, you are now no longer marked
> for target practice and have been bumped up to experimental brain
> surgery.Congrats! John, Scrolls.
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