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| Group: pota |
Message: 58635 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58636 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58637 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58638 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: planet items |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58639 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58640 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58641 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58642 |
From: mcreek25@aol.com |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58643 |
From: rassmguy |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58644 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: [pota] 1971 uk poster |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58645 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: planet items |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58646 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: two beneath posters |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58647 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58648 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: jacobs first producer film |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58649 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: [pota] jacobs first produce film |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58650 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: [pota] jacobs first produce film |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58651 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Fw: [pota] 1971 uk poster [1 Attachment] |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58652 |
From: James |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58653 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58654 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58655 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58656 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: View PDFs on my site |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58657 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58658 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58659 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58660 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58661 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Fw: planet items |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58662 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58663 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58664 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58665 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58666 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: planet goodies |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58667 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: planet goodies |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58668 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58669 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58670 |
From: mcreek25@aol.com |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58671 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58672 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Fw: [pota] 1971 uk poster |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58673 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Fw: planet goodies |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58674 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: zaius artwork |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58675 |
From: DAVID |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58676 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58677 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58678 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58679 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: What Fox said about POTA2011 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58680 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: What Fox said about POTA2011 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58681 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: zaius artwork |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58682 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58683 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58684 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58685 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58686 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: jacobs first producer film |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58687 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58688 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58689 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58690 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58691 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58692 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58693 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58694 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58695 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58696 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58697 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58698 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: What Fox said about POTA2011 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58699 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58700 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58701 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58702 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58703 |
From: mcreek25@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58704 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58705 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: planet photo |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58706 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58707 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: [pota] planet photo |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58708 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: wantagh theatre 1961 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58709 |
From: Kevin |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58710 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Scarecrows |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58711 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Scarecrows |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58712 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Scarecrows |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58713 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: planet items |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58714 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: planet items |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58715 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58716 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Wantagh theatre 1961 [1 Attachment] |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58717 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58718 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58719 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: loews capitol last film |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58720 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: loews capitol last film |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58721 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: loews capitol 1962 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58722 |
From: brianspro@hotmail.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58723 |
From: V |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Simian Scrolls sold out (US) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58724 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: "Rise of the Apes" needs some lousy human (CENSORED!)s |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58725 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Rise will be big budget? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58726 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Rise will be big budget? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58727 |
From: Jeff Barkley |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58728 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58729 |
From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: planet photo |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58730 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: planet german posters |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58731 |
From: mcreek25@aol.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58732 |
From: ronnie2467 |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58733 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58734 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58635 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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I would say it's more of a re-imagination and less of a sequel, only the names have stayed the same.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters?
Yes, this could lead to a redo of characters and
situations from the original films. But just as Jack Nicholson's Joker is
different from Heath Ledger's Joker, it would be it's own thing. I don't think
it's meant to correspond to Heston's Taylor. Considering how the space program
is today, I don't think bringing in astronauts is even a good idea. And we don't
know how much the script has changed since that leaked version.
Except for the Taylor thing, everything else in
that article is just surface stuff; borrowed names. There's nothing that
suggests to me it will tie in to the original movies.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58636 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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I don't think it's a prequel to either. It's a prequel to the general idea of POTA. It's not POTA because the apes haven't taken over yet.
I don't agree. I think it's POTA because -- it seems at this point -- that they're taking chapter 34 of Boulle's book and doing a movie based on it, and referencing the '68 movie to "tie it in" as a prequel to that. And, by the conclusion of the movie, the apes will have "taken over."
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58637 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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Slightly above mediocre is what we got last time.
I would call BENEATH slightly above mediocre. No, the 2001 debacle was simply bloody awful.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58638 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: planet items |
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--- On Sat, 5/22/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
From: William Burge <billburge48@...> Subject: planet items To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: billburge48@... Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 5:47 PM
dear group, found some more planet items. from william burge |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58639 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.html.html And everyone also knew that the Titanic would sink in the end but that didn't seem to hurt the boxoffice numbers.
Rise of the Apes will do just fine. ;o)
Al
From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 7:37:52 PM Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters?
I don't think it's a prequel to either. It's a prequel to the general idea of POTA. It's not POTA because the apes haven't taken over yet. I don't agree. I think it's POTA because -- it seems at this point -- that they're taking chapter 34 of Boulle's book and doing a movie based on it, and referencing the '68 movie to "tie it in" as a prequel to that. And, by the conclusion of the movie, the apes will have "taken over."
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58640 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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The remake of "King Kong" had a CG ape. What's the
difference?
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the
Apes'
I would love for this movie to be great. I really like the remakes of
Star Trek and King Kong, and I love the originals. I am not anti-Fox, I
think Fox has done some very good work; X-Files for example.
I thought the Tim Burton POTA was okay as a sci fi movie, and terrible as
POTA. If they had called it Monkey Planet, I would have said, that was an
okay movie and sort of like POTA, but not as good. Since they called it
POTA, I tend to think of it as terrible.
The premise of the new movie is only lukewarm to me. I don't like the
CGI aspect unless it is for the mass of Apes, but not for main characters.
I don't think the technology is good enough to carry a film. I don't like
that it is set in contemporary times, I think that is just because it is cheaper
than building an Ape City, CGI or practical.
Given all that, I don't think it can be great.
I hope it will be good.
I fear it will be terrible. <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58641 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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If this is leading directly into the 1968 movie
that's fine with me. But that's not what I think it is. It will be it's own
thing with some affectionate nods.
Where did you hear James Cameron was planning a
sequel to "Planet"? From what I heard he was doing his own thing too, a remake
of the first two?
As for the sequels, most people, not just "some
fans", consider it all one story, not separate from the original. I think if
they did, let's say, a trilogy of films leading from "modern day" to the 1968
film I'd be all for that, including evolution into the Chambers makeup (using CG
if they want). But I don't think that's where they're going.
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 3:38 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies
and characters?
Yes, this could lead to a redo of characters and
situations from the original films. But just as Jack Nicholson's Joker is
different from Heath Ledger's Joker, it would be it's own thing. I don't think
it's meant to correspond to Heston's Taylor. Considering how the space program
is today, I don't think bringing in astronauts is even a good idea. And we
don't know how much the script has changed since that leaked version.
Except for the Taylor thing, everything else in
that article is just surface stuff; borrowed names. There's nothing that
suggests to me it will tie in to the original
movies.
There's no mention of the sequels, so I don't get your "original movies"
comment, except, as I've said before, some of you fans see POTA as one thing and
just can't separate the original from its sequels.
If what this article mentions is true, then this is simply a prequel to the
original 1968 movie. What's so hard to understand about this? As a
prequel it doesn't have to "tie in" any more than a mere mention of an Icarus
flight, or the setting up of a situation that could, after two thousand years
time, lead to the world Taylor discovers in the original. There doesn't
have to be any further literal "tie ins" for it to be a prequel. And
basically, whether you like it or not, if Fox says it's a prequel -- IT'S A
PREQUEL.
Look at the recent reboot of STAR TREK. That movie was in an
alternate timeline than one that would lead to the original series, yet it was
still a prequel.
Let me ask a direct question to some here (and you know who you
are)....
Is there a problem with Fox making a prequel to the original movie?
I ask because I don't get what the problem is. Somebody tell me what
the problem is. I think Fox is on the right track artistically,
and is doing almost exactly what the great J.C. wanted to do a decade ago --
ignore the original sequels and start fresh right after Taylor discovers the
Statue of Liberty, not that that's what Fox is doing now, but at least they're
trying to address what is a great flaw in the original series. Anyone here
know what I'm referring to?
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58642 |
From: mcreek25@aol.com |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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I think that having several human sized CG apes interacting with humans
just won't look convincing.
The enormity of King Kong causes him to appear unreal just because of his
size, so the CG part is not as distracting.
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek bunkermeister.blogspot.com sgtsays.blogspot.com hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
In a message dated 5/22/2010 6:44:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:
The remake of "King Kong" had a CG ape. What's the
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From: rassmguy |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
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.htmlYes, but CHUD isn't always accurate with their details. In any case, what appears to be happening here is that the film will uses names from the original film as homages--not as direct tie-ins. It doesn't seem likely they're talking about Heston's Taylor, any more than Caesar will be MacDowall's Caesar. Chances are, they'll be different characters.
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From: William Burge |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
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--- On Sat, 5/22/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
From: William Burge <billburge48@...> Subject: [pota] 1971 uk poster To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: billburge48@... Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 2:59 PM
dear group, found a picture on a uk poster site that shows a 1971 poster of planet and escape together . from william burge --neat artwork |
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Date: 5/22/2010 |
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--- On Sat, 5/22/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
From: William Burge <billburge48@...> Subject: planet items To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: billburge48@... Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 5:47 PM
dear group, found some more planet items. from william burge |
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Message: 58646 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/22/2010 |
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dear droup, found two different beneath posters one italian the second one german . i like the artwork not the same as the us poster. from william burge |
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Message: 58647 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.htmlIt's all part of a phase in Hollywood, especially at FOX. The word/concept "Prequel" is the "it" word. FOX is releasing a PREDATOR soon. ALIEN is very much in the works. Reboot was the "it" world now it's "Prequel". There's not a problem with this, it is often very safe ground to tread, not to mention easy to do since it relies on very little imagination since has an ending and basic concept to start.
The only real and repetitive negative things is what has made re-makes mostly bad of recent is that the new writers in their pompous way to be original have overly written these films to explain everything where as most of the originals made glossed over what was the cause to start the story. This created a mystery that was eluded to in terms of being answered but never really spelled out. This allowed the original films to move along with the narrative and not get bogged down with explanation. The remakes actually had holes in them due to the poor origin concepts. The original POTA had many more questions rather than explanations yet it worked and moved due to the characters. Each film in turn worked as a stand alone piece in the same manner. The issue as to how it began was never the actual story, but a back piece to the adventure.
With FOX deciding to explain the origin would be safer to begin anew rather than tie in with what already been done since that would need a very deep study of what's been stated - which I doubt they would do since so many years have passed and their track record hasn't been one of using kit gloves.
This is a prequel of a remake/reboot.
- Scott B. --- On Sat, 5/22/10, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:
From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...> Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 6:38 PM
Yes, this could lead to a redo of characters and situations from the original films. But just as Jack Nicholson's Joker is different from Heath Ledger's Joker, it would be it's own thing. I don't think it's meant to correspond to Heston's Taylor. Considering how the space program is today, I don't think bringing in astronauts is even a good idea. And we don't know how much the script has changed since that leaked version.
Except for the Taylor thing, everything else in that article is just surface stuff; borrowed names. There's nothing that suggests to me it will tie in to the original movies.
There's no mention of the sequels, so I don't get your "original movies" comment, except, as I've said before, some of you fans see POTA as one thing and just can't separate the original from its sequels.
If what this article mentions is true, then this is simply a prequel to the original 1968 movie. What's so hard to understand about this? As a prequel it doesn't have to "tie in" any more than a mere mention of an Icarus flight, or the setting up of a situation that could, after two thousand years time, lead to the world Taylor discovers in the original. There doesn't have to be any further literal "tie ins" for it to be a prequel. And basically, whether you like it or not, if Fox says it's a prequel -- IT'S A PREQUEL.
Look at the recent reboot of STAR TREK. That movie was in an alternate timeline than one that would lead to the original series, yet it was still a prequel.
Let me ask a direct question to some here (and you know who you are)....
Is there a problem with Fox making a prequel to the original movie?
I ask because I don't get what the problem is. Somebody tell me what the problem is. I think Fox is on the right track artistically, and is doing almost exactly what the great J.C. wanted to do a decade ago -- ignore the original sequels and start fresh right after Taylor discovers the Statue of Liberty, not that that's what Fox is doing now, but at least they're trying to address what is a great flaw in the original series. Anyone here know what I'm referring to?
-- Rory
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Message: 58648 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
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.htmldear group, i found a rare postcard on flickr showing the marquee from the criterion theatre in new york dated 1964 the first production that arthur p jacobs did caled what a way to go starring shirley mcclaine-- great night time photo. enjoy from william burge |
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From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
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From: William Burge <billburge48@...> Subject: [pota] jacobs first producer film To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: billburge48@... Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:11 AM
dear group, i found a rare postcard on flickr showing the marquee from the criterion theatre in new york dated 1964 the first production that arthur p jacobs did caled what a way to go starring shirley mcclaine-- great night time photo. enjoy from william burge |
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From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
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--- On Sun, 5/23/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
From: William Burge <billburge48@...> Subject: Fw: [pota] jacobs first produce film To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: billburge48@... Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:18 AM
--- On Sun, 5/23/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
From: William Burge <billburge48@...> Subject: [pota] jacobs first producer film To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: billburge48@... Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:11 AM
dear group, i found a rare postcard on flickr showing the marquee from the criterion theatre in new york dated 1964 the first production that arthur p jacobs did caled what a way to go starring shirley mcclaine-- great night time photo. enjoy from william burge |
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Message: 58651 |
From: stenosaurus@aol.com |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Fw: [pota] 1971 uk poster [1 Attachment] |
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This is the poster someone mentioned a while ago that I had never seen or
heard of...pretty cool.
Bruce
In a message dated 5/23/2010 12:22:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
billburge48@... writes:
--- On Sat, 5/22/10, William Burge
<billburge48@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From:
William Burge <billburge48@ yahoo.com> Subject: Fw:
[pota] 1971 uk poster To: pota@yahoogroups. com Cc:
billburge48@ yahoo.com Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 3:08
PM
--- On Sat, 5/22/10, William Burge
<billburge48@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From:
William Burge <billburge48@ yahoo.com> Subject:
[pota] 1971 uk poster To: pota@yahoogroups. com Cc:
billburge48@ yahoo.com Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010,
2:59 PM
dear group, found a picture on a uk
poster site that shows a 1971 poster of planet and
escape together . from william burge --neat
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Message: 58652 |
From: James |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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Message: 58653 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.htmlThese days reboot and prequel seem to be synonymous in Hollywood.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote: > > It's actually a reboot, not a prequel. Some sites are calling it that, but it's set in the modern day, not in 1991, and the story is very different. The original movies and characters are a separate universe. > >
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Message: 58654 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.htmlBecause FOX is trying to have both ways. The remake still made a lot of money and there is an audience out there that has no memory of the original, just the remake. This way by not being specific they get both audiences and let the fans decide: it's a prequel of the original/it's a prequel of the remake, it's a candy/it's a gum, less filling/tastes great.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > > Why would Fox want to do a prequel to that 2001 disaster?
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Message: 58655 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
.htmlI'm hopeful too. I really want to see them get it right this time.
But as the song goes 'hope for the best, expect the worst'.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > New POTA poll: All things considered (assuming you have a grasp on all things), are you generally hopeful about Fox's new APES project, or do you expect little better than the debacle of 2001? > > I'm expecting better. > > -- Rory >
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Message: 58656 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: View PDFs on my site |
.htmlThanks Hunter. It's great that more people will have access to the treasures on your site.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote: > > This probably won't mean anything to long-time visitors to my Apes > site, but thanks to Google Docs, I've just added "View PDF" links to > most items on my site that are available in PDF format. This allows > visitors to view the PDFs without having to download the PDF files > and/or without having to have a PDF viewer installed. > > https://pota.goatley.com/ > > Hunter >
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Message: 58657 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.htmlYes I would because it is not "official" and you nor I know if it is close to the truth or not.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > Of course, James will say that none of this is "official," but I'll bet it's pretty close to the truth,
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Message: 58658 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.htmlAgreed. It is just another version of POTA, just like their are multiple versions of Batman and Superman and other franchises.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: > > I don't think it's a prequel to either. It's a prequel to the general idea of POTA. It's not POTA because the apes haven't taken over yet. > I think it will be like "Batman Begins". That was a prequel because it showed how he became Batman, but it wasn't related to any of the movies that came before. It's erasing the chalkboard and starting over, but prequel sounds better than reboot. > >
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Message: 58659 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.htmlNo.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > Is there a problem with Fox making a prequel to the original movie? >
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Message: 58660 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
.htmlThe month's not over yet. Keep trying. 
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote: > > Only of the day? > I'm disappointed! > > > >
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Message: 58661 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Fw: planet items |
.htmlThanks again William!
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote: > > > > > dear group, found some more planet items. from william burge >
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Message: 58662 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.htmlThanks a lot Al! I just ordered Titanic from Net Flix. Now you've ruined the end for me.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote: > > And everyone also knew that the Titanic would sink in the end but that didn't seem to hurt the boxoffice numbers. > Rise of the Apes will do just fine. ;o) > > Al >
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Message: 58663 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.htmlWell said Scott!
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote: > > It's all part of a phase in Hollywood, especially at FOX. The word/concept "Prequel" is the "it" word. FOX is releasing a PREDATOR soon. ALIEN is very much in the works. Reboot was the "it" world now it's "Prequel". There's not a problem with this, it is often very safe ground to tread, not to mention easy to do since it relies on very little imagination since has an ending and basic concept to start.Â
> The only real and repetitive negative things is what has made re-makes mostly bad of recent is that the new writers in their pompous way to be original have overly written these films to explain everything where as most of the originals made glossed over what was the cause to start the story. This created a mystery that was eluded to in terms of being answered but never really spelled out. This allowed the original films to move along with the narrative and not get bogged down with explanation. The remakes actually had holes in them due to the poor origin concepts. The original POTA had many more questions rather than explanations yet it worked and moved due to the characters. Each film in turn worked as a stand alone piece in the same manner. The issue as to how it began was never the actual story, but a back piece to the adventure.
> With FOX deciding to explain the origin would be safer to begin anew rather than tie in with what already been done since that would need a very deep study of what's been stated - which I doubt they would do since so many years have passed and their track record hasn't been one of using kit gloves. > This is a prequel of a remake/reboot. > - Scott B. >
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Message: 58664 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.html.html I don't believe it has anything to do with Burton's 2001 remake.
When Aaron Sims was Interviewed at the Clash of the Titans premiere, while he said very little about Rise of the Apes, he did make it clear that it wasn't related to Burton's remake.
Here's Aaron's video interview from MTV in case anyone missed it.
Al
From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 12:07:25 PM Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters?
Because FOX is trying to have both ways. The remake still made a lot of money and there is an audience out there that has no memory of the original, just the remake. This way by not being specific they get both audiences and let the fans decide: it's a prequel of the original/it' s a prequel of the remake, it's a candy/it's a gum, less filling/tastes great.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > > Why would Fox want to do a prequel to that 2001 disaster?
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Message: 58665 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.html.html LOL!
Al
From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 12:19:11 PM Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters?
Thanks a lot Al! I just ordered Titanic from Net Flix. Now you've ruined the end for me.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote: > > And everyone also knew that the Titanic would sink in the end but that didn't seem to hurt the boxoffice numbers. > Rise of the Apes will do just fine. ;o) > > Al >
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Message: 58666 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: planet goodies |
.htmldear group, did some more digging and found some more on planet =found the first ape photo showing makeups in 68 and photo in 1975 the actors paula christ and don burke as zira and cornelius in public appearences in toy stores selling ape mego toys. enjoy from william burge |
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Message: 58667 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: planet goodies |
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--- On Sun, 5/23/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
From: William Burge <billburge48@...> Subject: planet goodies To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: billburge48@... Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 1:16 PM
dear group, did some more digging and found some more on planet =found the first ape photo showing makeups in 68 and photo in 1975 the actors paula christ and don burke as zira and cornelius in public appearences in toy stores selling ape mego toys. enjoy from william burge |
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Message: 58668 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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The Burton flick made a decent amount of money
(not as much as they hoped) based on the concept and probably Burton's
intriguing visuals in the ads. But it's obvious the audience didn't like it and
it didn't get the repeat business that would have put it up there with the big
boys. And the important merchandise and tie-ins didn't sell. So the 2001 version
isn't even an issue. It's done. That's why it took them 10 years to start over.
If Fox thought there was even a glimmer of hope they would of done a
sequel/prequel to POTA2001 long ago.
It's not part of POTA2001, it's not part of
POTA68, it's POTA2011.
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:07 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies
and characters?
Because FOX is trying to
have both ways. The remake still made a lot of money and there is an audience
out there that has no memory of the original, just the remake. This way by not
being specific they get both audiences and let the fans decide: it's
a prequel of the original/it' s a prequel of the remake, it's a
candy/it's a gum, less filling/tastes great.
--- In
pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
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Why would Fox want to do a prequel to that 2001 disaster?
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Message: 58669 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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"Superman" is a perfect example. They tried to
tie "Superman Returns" into the original Christopher Reeve movie (and ignored
the sequels as Haristas wants). It was neither fish nor fowl and audiences
didn't like it. It's too awkward a situation. Better to start over.
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies
and characters?
Agreed. It is just another version of POTA, just
like their are multiple versions of Batman and Superman and other franchises.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K."
<veetus@...> wrote:
> > I don't think it's a prequel to
either. It's a prequel to the general idea of POTA. It's not POTA because the
apes haven't taken over yet. > I think it will be like "Batman Begins".
That was a prequel because it showed how he became Batman, but it wasn't related
to any of the movies that came before. It's erasing the chalkboard and starting
over, but prequel sounds better than reboot. > >
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Message: 58670 |
From: mcreek25@aol.com |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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With the poor knowledge of history of most Americans I wonder how many
people who saw Titanic for the first time knew it was a real ship and really
sank?
Also, how do you know the box office was not hurt by people knowing the
ending? ;)
Actually, the story was about two people the ship was the backdrop to that
story, we want to see if those people will survive, that's why they don't tell a
historical story of two people who really existed and went on the ship.
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek bunkermeister.blogspot.com sgtsays.blogspot.com hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
In a message dated 5/23/2010 9:24:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
JamesA1102@... writes:
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everyone also knew that the Titanic would sink in the end but that didn't seem
to hurt the boxoffice numbers. > Rise of the Apes will do just
fine. ;o)
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Message: 58671 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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"Titanic" didn't do so hot it's opening weekend.
There was no rush to see it. It just grew because of the word of mouth, the
spectacle and the DiCaprio factor. That suggests the "downer" ending made people
think twice.
"Titanic" made $28 million it's opening weekend as
opposed to POTA2001's $ 68 million. But people liked "Titanic" and they didn't
like POTA so we know where it ended up.
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:19 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies
and characters?
Thanks a lot Al! I just ordered Titanic from Net
Flix. Now you've ruined the end for me.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com,
Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
> > And everyone also knew
that the Titanic would sink in the end but that didn't seem to hurt the
boxoffice numbers. > Rise of the Apes will do just fine. ;o) >
> Al >
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Message: 58672 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Fw: [pota] 1971 uk poster |
.html.html William .was that on a site to seell it? or just to show it? Thanks for sharing! Tim
In a message dated 5/23/2010 12:22:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
billburge48@ yahoo.com writes:
dear group, found a picture on a uk
poster site that shows a 1971 poster of planet and
escape together . from william burge --neat
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Message: 58673 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Fw: planet goodies |
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Hi William, just
curious as to where you found the Zaius drawing?
It's just that it
was drawn by me and is part of the comic Going Home (see attached panel)
As far as I can
recall the comic was only ever available on the PotaDG group and this certainly
looks like it was originally taken from there as you can see part of the
watermark I put on the pages. I'm not upset about it or anything just
curious as to where it came from and what it has been used
for!
Neil T. Foster
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Message: 58674 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: zaius artwork |
.htmldear neil, the zaius artwork was posted on the wikia page under planet of the apes . from william burge |
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Message: 58675 |
From: DAVID |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
.htmlVery, Very Excited that we are having a new Apes Project. After all it's been NINE long years. Kids need to see what we're all so excited over. We could be in a LOT of worse hands and I think we're in good ones-WETA is an excellent choice for the effects-their work is always 100%, Driven by their heart and creativity and always spectacular. And for those people griping about James Franco-he's a very good actor and hey...NOT Marky Mark. The production designer is top notch. Bottom line-even if some people hate it-it puts Apes back out in the collective minds and will cause a lot of people and youngsters to seek out the Older Apes films to view and relive to see what it's all about. It's a world that can't die because it's myth now. We all know that. Hollywood just hasn't got that yet-maybe they will this time.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm hopeful too. I really want to see them get it right this time.
>
> But as the song goes 'hope for the best, expect the worst'.
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Message: 58676 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
.html.html I couldn't agree more.
There's going to be plenty of original apes stuff released over the next year. I have no doubt.
Plus movie marathons and how knows what else. I only hope that with in this coming year "The Fox Movie Channel" finally goes HD.
And if done right, I honestly wouldn't doubt that "Rise of the Apes" may just turn out better than "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes."
Oh Oh! Now I've done it! Here comes the replies on that one!
HEAD FOR COVER!!!! :o)
Al
From: DAVID <hellboygbo@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 6:28:59 PM Subject: [pota] Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes'
Very, Very Excited that we are having a new Apes Project. After all it's been NINE long years. Kids need to see what we're all so excited over. We could be in a LOT of worse hands and I think we're in good ones-WETA is an excellent choice for the effects-their work is always 100%, Driven by their heart and creativity and always spectacular. And for those people griping about James Franco-he's a very good actor and hey...NOT Marky Mark. The production designer is top notch. Bottom line-even if some people hate it-it puts Apes back out in the collective minds and will cause a lot of people and youngsters to seek out the Older Apes films to view and relive to see what it's all about. It's a world that can't die because it's myth now. We all know that. Hollywood just hasn't got that yet-maybe they will this time.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com
, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
> > > I'm hopeful too. I really want to see them get it right this time. > > But as the song goes 'hope for the best, expect the worst'. > >
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Message: 58677 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
| Group: pota |
Message: 58678 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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What's interesting? That they got it all
wrong?
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:11 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies
and characters?
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Message: 58679 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: What Fox said about POTA2011 |
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This "Rise of the Apes" keeps getting called a
prequel on the internet and that seems to confuse things. The only thing Fox has
officially said about the project came in the press release that announced the
release date. To wit:
"'Rise of the Apes' (tentative title) is an origin
story in the truest sense of the term. Set in present day San Francisco, the
film is a reality-based cautionary tale, a science fiction/science fact blend,
where man's own experiments with genetic engineering lead to the development of
intelligence in apes and the onset of a war for supremacy".
That's all Fox has said about it. Interesting how
it says "the onset of a war". Maybe they won't take over in this
one.
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:11 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies
and characters?
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Message: 58680 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: What Fox said about POTA2011 |
.html.html I'm sure once the official "Rise of the Apes" web site is released, they'll have complete details on what "Rise of the Apes" is all about.
So until then you can pretty much take all that is said on the internet with a grain of salt.
I know I do.
Al
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 9:02:13 PM Subject: [pota] What Fox said about POTA2011
This "Rise of the Apes" keeps getting called a prequel on the internet and that seems to confuse things. The only thing Fox has officially said about the project came in the press release that announced the release date. To wit:
"'Rise of the Apes' (tentative title) is an origin story in the truest sense of the term. Set in present day San Francisco, the film is a reality-based cautionary tale, a science fiction/science fact blend, where man's own experiments with genetic engineering lead to the development of intelligence in apes and the onset of a war for supremacy".
That's all Fox has said about it. Interesting how it says "the onset of a war". Maybe they won't take over in this one.
http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/fox-firms-up-ape-prequel/
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:11 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters?
Now this is interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_of_the_Apes
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Message: 58681 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 5/23/2010 |
| Subject: Re: zaius artwork |
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Okay thanks
William, now it makes sense.
Neil T. Foster
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge
<billburge48@...> wrote:
> > dear neil, the zaius artwork was
posted on the wikia page under planet of the apes . from william
burge
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Message: 58682 |
From: scott bosco |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
.htmlEven now FOX is probably planning on repackaging the Blu-rays ... or, hopefully, putting together better editions with more materials. (Maybe they'll remaster better sound mixes)
- Scott B. --- On Sun, 5/23/10, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 7:22 PM
I couldn't agree more.
There's going to be plenty of original apes stuff released over the next year. I have no doubt.
Plus movie marathons and how knows what else. I only hope that with in this coming year "The Fox Movie Channel" finally goes HD.
And if done right, I honestly wouldn't doubt that "Rise of the Apes" may just turn out better than "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes."
Oh Oh! Now I've done it! Here comes the replies on that one!
HEAD FOR COVER!!!! :o)
Al
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Message: 58683 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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Not a fan of Kong.
I had to check my
watch when they ran
from dinosaurs for 5
minutes and didn't get
stepped on. And I doubt
the best tool for Giant spider
removal is a Tommy Gun. Not
unless you don't mind shooting the
person it's attacking as well while you're
at it. A little cutting could have gone a long
way to help that movie a lot. But Peter Jackson
was James Cameron that year, so no one was
going to tell him to save a scene for the Director's Cut.
In a message dated 5/22/2010 8:44:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:
The
remake of "King Kong" had a CG ape. What's the
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58684 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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Hey, Al and I were the only ones trying to
"Look On The Bright Side" of the last movie.
I saw it like 14 times. Not because I thought
it was so great. I figured they only way they
were ever going to make another was if it did
well at the boxoffice, so I was trying to shore
up the numbers by going as often as I could.
In a message dated 5/22/2010 6:17:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
pota1968@... writes:
Negativity only turns me off. And when I hear it, I just walk away.
Al <.html
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Message: 58685 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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I would say only slightly worse than Battle.
In a message dated 5/22/2010 7:20:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
No, the
2001 debacle was simply bloody
awful. <.html
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Message: 58686 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: jacobs first producer film |
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LOL! Love that movie!
Incidentally, Robert Mitchum's
first starring role was in a movie
called When Stranger's Marry,
with none other than Kim Hunter.
"Melrose! Forgive Me!"
~~~ Robert Mitchum in What A Way To Go~~~~
In a message dated 5/23/2010 10:13:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
billburge48@... writes:
dear group, i found a rare postcard on flickr showing the
marquee from the criterion theatre in new york dated 1964 the first
production that arthur p jacobs did caled what a way to go starring
shirley mcclaine-- great night time photo. enjoy from william burge | <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58687 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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Or take "Second Best".
looks like that's what Fox
did when Spiderman's Star
came back with note for the
movie. They didn't seem to
think much of his changes.
Someone said maybe he
could still get a part in it
as a Spider Monkey.
In a message dated 5/23/2010 11:13:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
JamesA1102@... writes:
But as the song goes 'hope for the best,
expect the worst'.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58688 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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LOL!!! Someone put out a Spoiler T-Shirt.
It ruins just about every surprise ending ever!
In a message dated 5/23/2010 11:24:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
JamesA1102@... writes:
Thanks a lot Al! I just ordered Titanic
from Net Flix. Now you've ruined the end for me.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58689 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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I was hoping for most stinging pun of all time!
In a message dated 5/23/2010 11:24:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
JamesA1102@... writes:
The month's not over yet. Keep trying.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58690 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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It only did well because it was an Ape movie.
Though the only thing that beat it that summer
was a Jurassic Park movie. It had good numbers
for a film that was so badly received.
In a message dated 5/23/2010 1:44:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:
But
it's obvious the audience didn't like it and it didn't get the repeat business
that would have put it up there with the big
boys. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58691 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
.html.html I completely agree with that.
I was just happy to see anything on POTA at the time. But the true test of a great movie is when you can see it multiple times long after it's release on DVD. And quite honestly everytime I see Burton's POTA now it pretty much makes me sick to my stomach. But hey, at least we gave it a fare shot. :o)
Al
From: "LordTZer0@..." <LordTZer0@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 7:14:11 AM Subject: Re: [pota] Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes'
Hey, Al and I were the only ones trying to
"Look On The Bright Side" of the last movie.
I saw it like 14 times. Not because I thought
it was so great. I figured they only way they
were ever going to make another was if it did
well at the boxoffice, so I was trying to shore
up the numbers by going as often as I could.
In a message dated 5/22/2010 6:17:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pota1968@yahoo. com writes:
Negativity only turns me off. And when I hear it, I just walk away.
Al
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58692 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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So, what? We're shooting for slightly
worse than Escape? Somewhere in
the Beneath range, depending on taste?
That's still mediocre in my book. If you
If you can't make it better than the original
don't bother. Filmaker's 101. Oh wait, it's
one of the sequels. Aim Low Hollywood!
You should see the Fan Trailer for the new
Remo Williams. Someone has high hopes!
They haven't even cast this thing yet, but I
already like the Fan Picks better than the
crew they chose to direct the damned thing!
In a message dated 5/23/2010 6:56:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
pota1968@... writes:
And if
done right, I honestly wouldn't doubt that "Rise of the Apes" may just turn
out better than "Conquest of the Planet of the
Apes." <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58693 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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I'd just like to see someone with more gravitas
in the role. Hell, if they wanted someone from
Spiderman why not Willem Dafoe? Gots Chops!
In a message dated 5/23/2010 5:34:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
hellboygbo@... writes:
Very, Very Excited that we are having a new Apes Project. After all it's
been NINE long years. Kids need to see what we're all so excited over. We
could be in a LOT of worse hands and I think we're in good ones-WETA is an
excellent choice for the effects-their work is always 100%, Driven by their
heart and creativity and always spectacular. And for those people griping
about James Franco-he's a very good actor and hey...NOT Marky Mark. The
production designer is top notch. Bottom line-even if some people hate it-it
puts Apes back out in the collective minds and will cause a lot of people and
youngsters to seek out the Older Apes films to view and relive to see what
it's all about. It's a world that can't die because it's myth now. We all know
that. Hollywood just hasn't got that yet-maybe they will this time.
---
In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102"
<JamesA1102@...> wrote: > > > I'm hopeful too. I
really want to see them get it right this time. > > But as the
song goes 'hope for the best, expect the worst'. > >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58694 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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Doubt this knows what it's taking about.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58695 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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I completely agree with that.
I was just happy to see anything on POTA at the time. But the true test of a great movie is when you can see it multiple times long after it's release on DVD. And quite honestly everytime I see Burton's POTA now it pretty much makes me sick to my stomach. But hey, at least we gave it a fare shot. :o)
Al
I was sick to my stomach the first time I saw it! I was very surprised it made the money it did. After my first viewing, I thought it was going to be a huge financial bomb! I mean, it truly is an awful movie. Tim Burton took the money and ran. He doesn't even talk about it now, except for how it got him his wife.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58696 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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It's not part of POTA2001, it's not part of POTA68, it's POTA2011.
I'm predicting that it will turn out to be a prequel to the '68 original.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58697 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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And if done right, I honestly wouldn't doubt that "Rise of the Apes" may just turn out better than "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes."
Oh Oh! Now I've done it! Here comes the replies on that one!
HEAD FOR COVER!!!! :o)
Al
Oh, I agree that it could very well be better than CONQUEST. CONQUEST is good, but far from great. Still, nothing can replace these original films. They are things of their time and that can't be taken away from them.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58698 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: What Fox said about POTA2011 |
.htmlVery good point Jeff. It is bloggers and others on the net that have called it a prequel, not FOX.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: > > This "Rise of the Apes" keeps getting called a prequel on the internet and that seems to confuse things. The only thing Fox has officially said about the project came in the press release that announced the release date. To wit: > > "'Rise of the Apes' (tentative title) is an origin story in the truest sense of the term. Set in present day San Francisco, the film is a reality-based cautionary tale, a science fiction/science fact blend, where man's own experiments with genetic engineering lead to the development of intelligence in apes and the onset of a war for supremacy". > > That's all Fox has said about it. Interesting how it says "the onset of a war". Maybe they won't take over in this one. > > http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/fox-firms-up-ape-prequel/ >
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58699 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.htmlExactly, which proves the point I was making earlier. FOX is not specifying which film it is a prequel to because they want to have it both ways and let those who are fans of the original think it is a prequel to that while fans of the remake think it is a sequel to that film.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: > > What's interesting? That they got it all wrong? > >
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Message: 58700 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
.htmlNot even close!
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote: > > > I was hoping for most stinging pun of all time! >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58701 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.htmlYeah but you also predicted that McCain was going to win the election;-)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > I'm predicting that it will turn out to be a prequel to the '68 original. > > -- Rory >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58702 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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Even now FOX is probably planning on repackaging the Blu-rays ... or, hopefully, putting together better editions with more materials. (Maybe they'll remaster better sound mixes)
- Scott B.
Yeah, I was going to bring this up. Perhaps now would be a good time to start another campaign to get better stuff on Blu-ray, such as a true 5.1 remix of PLANET's audio, but I have doubts Fox would do it. Well, they might do it on the original, but I don't think they'd spend anything more on the sequels. For me, of course, an improved Blu-ray of just PLANET would be fine. I can live with the sequels just as they are.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58703 |
From: mcreek25@aol.com |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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Having fired the Tommy Gun, I can say it is an excellent weapon and I fully
recommend it for giant spider removal. My wife likes it so well she wants
to buy one! Not available in my state at this time.
Yes, the running from dinosaurs scene was a bit long. I think they
wanted to do everything they did in the original plus 50% so everything was
larger. Kong did not fight a T-Rex he fought Three T-Rex.
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek bunkermeister.blogspot.com sgtsays.blogspot.com hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
In a message dated 5/24/2010 4:37:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:
And I doubt
the best tool for Giant spider
removal is a Tommy Gun. Not
unless you don't mind shooting the
person it's attacking as well while you're
at it.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58704 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
.htmlThe Burton fiasco was such a waste of time and resources. What a damned shame. It had so many possibilities...but golly that was pure sh*t. It's just so vile that I also get sick when I think too much about it...so it's one of those memories I would rather not remember. I saw it once and that was once too many times. I try to be positive about everything but that one just vaporized my positive energy and has made me embittered.
Damn you Burton!! Goddamn you to hell.
Jess.
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:47 AM, <mcreek25@...> wrote:
Having fired the Tommy Gun, I can say it is an excellent weapon and I fully recommend it for giant spider removal. My wife likes it so well she wants to buy one! Not available in my state at this time.
Yes, the running from dinosaurs scene was a bit long. I think they wanted to do everything they did in the original plus 50% so everything was larger. Kong did not fight a T-Rex he fought Three T-Rex.
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
In a message dated 5/24/2010 4:37:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
And I doubt
the best tool for Giant spider
removal is a Tommy Gun. Not
unless you don't mind shooting the
person it's attacking as well while you're
at it.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58705 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: planet photo |
.htmldear group, found a photo on wikia on planet. from william burge |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58706 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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Sorry Jessica, even if this movie is good there
won't be much for you to be made up as. A CG ape? Even if you
could get made up, they'd think you were something that fell out of a
tree.
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the
Apes'
The Burton fiasco was such a waste of time and resources. What a
damned shame. It had so many possibilities. ..but golly that was pure
sh*t. It's just so vile that I also get sick when I think too much about
it...so it's one of those memories I would rather not remember. I saw it
once and that was once too many times. I try to be positive about
everything but that one just vaporized my positive energy and has made me
embittered.
Damn you Burton!! Goddamn you to hell.
Jess.
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:47 AM, <mcreek25@aol. com> wrote:
Having fired the Tommy Gun, I can say it is an excellent weapon and I
fully recommend it for giant spider removal. My wife likes it so well
she wants to buy one! Not available in my state at this time.
Yes, the running from dinosaurs scene was a bit long. I think they
wanted to do everything they did in the original plus 50% so everything was
larger. Kong did not fight a T-Rex he fought Three T-Rex.
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
In a message dated 5/24/2010 4:37:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@AOL. com writes:
And I doubt
the best tool for Giant spider
removal is a Tommy Gun. Not
unless you don't mind shooting the
person it's attacking as well while you're
at it.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58707 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: [pota] planet photo |
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--- On Mon, 5/24/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
From: William Burge <billburge48@...> Subject: [pota] planet photo To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: billburge48@... Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 3:14 PM
dear group, found a photo on wikia on planet. from william burge |
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Message: 58708 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: wantagh theatre 1961 |
.htmldear rory, i found a photo of the wantagh theatre in long island new york dated 1961. according to cinema treasures site you said that was the first time you saw planet of the apes in april 1968. from william burge |
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Message: 58709 |
From: Kevin |
Date: 5/24/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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- I liked Monkey Planet (book) which was very different from the WHOLE
POTA franchise which I also liked which was very different Burtons Apes
which again I liked - each is very different from the other and should
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58710 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Scarecrows |
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I appreciate a spirited debate.
In a message dated 5/15/2010 8:49:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
johnmermigas@... writes:
Its
true James, as fifty year old men this does read pretty infantile.
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Message: 58711 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Scarecrows |
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I occasionally listen to Coast To Coast...
you know, ghost stories, Aliens, UFOs,
and, of course assorted conspiracies.
Anyway this guy who was the author
de jour said the Buildabetterburger
Group, who really run the country ; )
like Mike Meyers dad says in that
movie, took treasure from the Nazi's
loot loanded it to news & media
outlets, and politicians, etc . . .
and used the leverage to call the
shot. You know... Suppress new
technology. Sound familiar? And
that the whole TARP bail out thing
was because they called in the note
and no one could spend like drunken
sailors anymore. Someone tell congress!
In a message dated 5/16/2010 1:01:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes:
I agree. I think it would have made a little more
sense. The apes taking that long to evolve into what they became (years of
genetic manipulation and sexual selection) and to develop a kind of
sub-culture of their own sounds more reasonable.
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Message: 58712 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Scarecrows |
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Fifty is the new teens,
so . . . act your age!
In a message dated 5/15/2010 11:50:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
Whatever
it is in the end, this new movie won't have the impact on me at
fifty years old (I'll be fifty-two when it's
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58713 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Fw: planet items |
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--- On Tue, 5/25/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
From: William Burge <billburge48@...> Subject: planet items To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: billburge48@... Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 7:55 AM
dear group, found some planet photos on ebay. from willim burge |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58714 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: planet items |
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dear group, found some planet photos on ebay. from willim burge |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58715 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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I think that's probably what will happen if they
go back to blu-ray. A special edition of just the original like they did on
standard DVD after the collection came out (2004ish). Might be worth it if they
dig up the pregnant Nova scene and other stuff. I wouldn't mind having some of
the old extras in HD, like "Behind", the Edward G. makeup test, the
outtakes.
They are putting out a 2 disc blu-ray of
"Predator" to go with the new movie.
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:24 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the
Apes'
Yeah, I was going to bring this up. Perhaps now would be a good time
to start another campaign to get better stuff on Blu-ray, such as a true 5.1
remix of PLANET's audio, but I have doubts Fox would do it. Well, they
might do it on the original, but I don't think they'd spend anything more on the
sequels. For me, of course, an improved Blu-ray of just PLANET would be
fine. I can live with the sequels just as they are.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58716 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Wantagh theatre 1961 [1 Attachment] |
.htmlYeah, that was the theatre. Saw ESCAPE there for the first time too. The place got demolished nearly twenty years ago, but it's nice a photo of it has survived. Thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: William Burge <billburge48@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: billburge48@...
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 11:37 pm
Subject: [pota] wantagh theatre 1961 [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from William Burge included below]
dear rory, i found a photo of the wantagh theatre in long island new york dated 1961. according to cinema treasures site you said that was the first time you saw planet of the apes in april 1968. from william burge |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58717 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
.htmlExcept that Fox, with the exception of the 35th Anniversary DVD, sees PLANET as part of the "Apes Saga," so a new Blu-ray special edition of just the original seems unlikely to me. But, it's worth a try. All the extras you mention should be remastered in HD, and Fox really owes it to the legacy of the film, the landmark status of it and Goldsmith's score, that the sound be remixed in true 5.1, and their current Blu-ray picture could still undergo more digital cleanup -- like the fantastic work done with the Bond films.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes'
I think that's probably what will happen if they go back to blu-ray. A special edition of just the original like they did on standard DVD after the collection came out (2004ish). Might be worth it if they dig up the pregnant Nova scene and other stuff. I wouldn't mind having some of the old extras in HD, like "Behind", the Edward G. makeup test, the outtakes.
They are putting out a 2 disc blu-ray of "Predator" to go with the new movie.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58718 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
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Yeah but you also predicted that McCain was going to win the election;-)
I did not! That guy was never going to win.
-----Original Message-----
From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 2:04 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters?
Yeah but you also predicted that McCain was going to win the election;-)
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> I'm predicting that it will turn out to be a prequel to the '68 original.
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> -- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58719 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: loews capitol last film |
.htmldear group, here is a nightime photo of 2001 a space odyssey --the last film shown at the loews capitol the same theatre planet opened in feb 8, 1968 . found this photo on the cinerama website. from william burge |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58720 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: loews capitol last film |
.htmldear group, i found a night time showing photo of the loews capitol---2001 the 1968 marquee.from william burge the photo was on the 70 mm newsletter |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58721 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: loews capitol 1962 |
.htmldear group, found a photo dated 1962 inside the loews capitol-- i think it looked like this when planet played there 6 years later . from william burge found the photo on the cinerama website. |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58722 |
From: brianspro@hotmail.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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.html While the Planet of the Apes 2001 lacked the drama, character development, deeper story and classical acting of the original 1968 version, it was no less a good film if judged by it's own merits.
I liked the movie and thought it better than some of the sequels. The makeup, costumes and special effects were superior to the original too. Though I think the made a mistake with the female chimp makeup by trying to make them more human. I liked the ending too as it was similar to the novel.
I do wish they kept the same basic story or followed the novel, had a deeper story rather than making it an action film and kept the basic makeup design the same as the original, but the films were made at different times. My kids and most younger people think the originals are boring. So the studio opted for a summer blockbuster action film instead. Rise of the Apes no doubt will be the same. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58723 |
From: V |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Simian Scrolls sold out (US) |
.htmlHi guys, just wanted you to know I've sold the last issue of the new Simian Scrolls. I have a couple more still to send out, those of you still waiting to receive your copy, but what I have has all been sold.
Thanks!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58724 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: "Rise of the Apes" needs some lousy human (CENSORED!)s |
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"Rise of the Apes" has put out a call for actors
and extras who would like to play some humans of the "lambs to the slaughter"
variety (apes need not apply). Shooting will take place in Vancouver
July 5th - Sept. 30th.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58725 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Rise will be big budget? |
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That's right bay tay chickapea.
LOL!!! I liked him in Taken,
Darkman, Rob Roy. Any
time he's on a rampage.
In a message dated 5/15/2010 11:49:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
Wasn't
Liam Neeson the guy who tried to get Jody Foster to talk English in some Fox
movie? Neeson is good in some
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58726 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: Rise will be big budget? |
.htmlYou know, that's a very good point you have there, John! How come Caesar didn't have a hint of Armando's accent?
Jess.
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:05 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:
If Liam Neeson is teaching Caesar to talk, Caesar will have a broad Ulster accent with the vaguest hint of Hollywood twang.Hmmmm.Makes me wonder why the original Caesar didn't have an Hispanic accent, having learned from Armando.John, Scrolls.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58727 |
From: Jeff Barkley |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
.htmlMy thoughts exactly
Jeff B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin" <pellew@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes'
> Sorry guys but I don't understand the problems with the whole APES thing
> - I liked Monkey Planet (book) which was very different from the WHOLE
> POTA franchise which I also liked which was very different Burtons Apes
> which again I liked - each is very different from the other and should
> be judged that way.
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> KJ
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58728 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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Personally, I would want something
with less muzzle climb, like a Finnish
Jati. The bolt travels back upward at an
angle to compensate. Or the venerable
H & K MP5SD since it's internal suppressor
adsorbs much of the recoil. Either would work.
In a message dated 5/24/2010 1:49:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
mcreek25@... writes:
Having
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58729 |
From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: planet photo |
.htmlAmazing!!!! How do you get this stuff?????
2010/5/24 William Burge <billburge48@...>
dear group, found a photo on wikia on planet. from william burge |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58730 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: planet german posters |
.htmldear group, found two german planet posters on imdb.com from william burge
great artwork |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58731 |
From: mcreek25@aol.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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MP5 is an excellent choice. Still few weapons have the knockdown of
the .45 ACP or the romance of the Thompson.
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek bunkermeister.blogspot.com sgtsays.blogspot.com hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
In a message dated 5/25/2010 6:39:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:
Finnish
Jati. The bolt travels back upward at an
angle to compensate. Or the venerable
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58732 |
From: ronnie2467 |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters? |
.htmlIf that's the case,then the movie would tell of tayler and crew leaving earth.Soon after,if you remember,brent leaves earth to find tayler.when thay left earth it was not run by apes.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> It's not part of POTA2001, it's not part of POTA68, it's POTA2011.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58733 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes' |
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"Alice in Wonderland" is closing in on $ 1
billion worldwide so I guess Burton can do what he wants. If we complain too
much about his POTA he could even have us killed. : o
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:29 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: James Franco to star in 'Rise of the
Apes'
I was sick to my stomach the first time I saw it! I was very
surprised it made the money it did. After my first viewing, I thought it
was going to be a huge financial bomb! I mean, it truly is an awful
movie. Tim Burton took the money and ran. He doesn't even talk about
it now, except for how it got him his wife.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 58734 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 5/25/2010 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
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