On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:50 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Pretty lame. The sketch wasn't funny and the make-up was bad.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> Here's the sketch from last night.....
>
> http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/timecrowave/1228153/
>

Well you don't see power cables or light switches or electric engines in most films set in contemporary times either. But you usually see torches or candles in films depicting a more rustic culture. There are candles all over the place in Battle but you don't see any light bulbs in Escape.

And while most of the action takes place during the day the scenes in Zaius' office and Taylor's jail break are at night.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
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> Or power cables, or light switches or light bulbs or light sockets or
> electric engines visible either.
>
> Most all the action took place in the daytime and the buildings all had
> windows, often high up to let in light or air.
>

Yeah but there are things that do a lot more damage in space than water.

And the ship may not have lost power but rather the ship shut down all power as a safety protocol to prevent any damage.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
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> There is no liquid water in space.
>
> The ship lost all power just before they exited, water and electricity just
> don't do well together.
>
> They could have gone to other planets in the star system, a short hop like
> to the moon or Mars in whatever system they thought they were in.
>
> They could have flown around the planet they landed on. Even landing on
> Earth, the middle of Australia or Antarctica are not the prime real estate.
>

But Taylor's ship was also constructed to land on alien planets so the sheilding had to account for different types of environments not just the harsh conditions in space.

And Taylor knew that the power would shut down so it is possible that he knew that the safety protocol would activate automatically. Plus there were none of the sparks that are usually seen with short circuits, the power just went off.

I'm not saying that's the way it definitely was, just that it is a possibility.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
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> Yes, but not the same kind of damage. Shielding against radio bursts,
> electric overloads, radiation are very different from water shielding.
>
> It was my impression they lost power as a result of being in the water,
> and they had to hurry and open the hatch. If they shut down to prevent power
> damage I would have thought they would have an over ride system for
> emergencies.
>

But that is assuming that the Ape culture developed everything at the same rate as our culture did. And they did have power water hoses, machine guns & photography so it is also possible that they had a crude form of electricity.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
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> Telephones and light bulbs were invented about the same time in the 1880s
> and telegraph much earlier, and none of those are specific in POTA. I
> would think they would be shown if they used electricity to any great degree.
>

But your car is not designed to travel in space, land on other planets with different, perhaps unknown, environments either.

And the ship was designed to splashdown upon it's return to Earth in an ocean of salt water.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
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> They also mention they were not supposed to do a water landing. If my car
> drives off a bridge into a lake, I know the power is going to cut off
> soon, and I don't think there will be much in the way of sparks.
>

High pressure water hoses are NOT ancient.

Brass cartridges may have been around 20 years before electric lights but that is really not a long time.

And electric cars while being around since the 1830s never became the a widely used form of transportation. The automobile didn't become widely used until the early 20th century.

In the 1900s horse and buggy was still the main transport in New York City despite in being wired for electricity years earlier.

Either way just because our civilization developed certain things at the same time, or in a certain order, it does not mean that the Apes civilization would develop them in the same order.

I'm not saying it definitely was that way, just that it is a possibility.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
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> High pressure water hoses is pretty ancient.
>
> Brass cartridges pre-date the phone and electric light by at least 20
> years.
>
> Semi-automatic carbines and sub machine guns came about around the same
> time as electric lights for the carbines and about 40 years later in terms of
> sub machine guns.
>
> Their cannon seemed pretty primitive. All their transport was by horse,
> the electric car is a very old form of transportation.
>

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The only capsule that was not recovered was Gus Grissom's Mercury flight, Liberty Bell 7. That capsule was eventually discovered & salvaged in 1999 and was found to be in good condition.

Since Taylor's ship spashed down in Escape it looks like it was designed to do so.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
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> Was it designed to return to Earth?
>
> Was it designed to spashdown on it's return?
>
> If it did spashdown on Earth, most of the instruments would be pointless
> at that time, some capsules were not even recovered.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> James Franco to star in 'Rise of the Apes'
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/05/\
> james-franco-to-star-in-rise-of-the-apes.htmlct=ga&cad=:s1:f2:v0:i0:lt:\
> e0:p0:t1274399215:&cd=FxB244qfUBM&usg=AFQjCNGNGiGKYfACuFECk9my5yM3MDqWLg\
> >
> Hollywood Reporter (blog)
> James Franco has his damn dirty paws on the lead role in "Rise of
> the Apes," Fox's prequel to its "Planet of the Apes"
> franchise. ...
>

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On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:04 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
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> Is this like a low budget version of James Franciscus?
>
>
> Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
> bunkermeister.blogspot.com
> sgtsays.blogspot.com
> hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
>
>
> In a message dated 5/20/2010 7:30:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> tick1845@... writes:
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> James Franco has his damn dirty paws on the lead role
>

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:

as bad as some people think this was....at least they went for accuracy! geting Apemania to do the suit and mask....
and the background even looks like it was taken from Zuma beach....!

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From: "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...>

To: POTA <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 11:30:51 PM
Subject: [pota] SNL

Here's some screen caps from SNL......James, wanna put them in the archives just because ....?

Tim

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronnie2467" <ronnie2467@...> wrote:
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> How is the new film in line with the original movies?
>
> Ronnie
>

Not really sure. FOX has stated that it is a prequel to Planet of the Apes but they haven't said whether it is a prequel to the original or to the 2001 remake.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronnie2467" <ronnie2467@...> wrote:
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> How is the new film in line with the original movies?
>
> Ronnie
>

OK that wins the bad pun of the day award. :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
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> My Dyslexic Joke
>
> Salesman to Scotsman . . .
>
> "Are you buy a car today?"
>
> "Nay, I'm Leasin."
>
>

Has FOX ever specifically stated it is a prequel to the original?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
> I don't think so. I think this is a reboot, but it's also a prequel -- a prequel to the original film, NOT the sequels -- and I think a lot of you are going to be upset about it.
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> It's a prequel in the sense that it's before the apes take over. Though I guess this would actually be the original of this set of films and a true prequel would be before the before.
>
> No one thinks of "Escape", "Conquest" and "Battle" as prequels. They are considered sequels.
>
>
> From: rassmguy
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 6:30 PM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: how is new prequel to deal with original movies and characters?
>
>
>
> It's actually a reboot, not a prequel. Some sites are calling it that, but it's set in the modern day, not in 1991, and the story is very different. The original movies and characters are a separate universe.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronnie2467" <ronnie2467@> wrote:
> >
> > How is the new film in line with the original movies?
> >
> > Ronnie
> >
>