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Group: pota Message: 58835 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58836 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58837 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58838 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58839 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: POTA and BENEATH on screen in San Jose, CA Aug. 11-15
Group: pota Message: 58840 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58841 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Jar Jar Chimps
Group: pota Message: 58842 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58843 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58844 From: mcreek25@aol.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58845 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 58846 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58847 From: scott bosco Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58848 From: Chris Sutton Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58849 From: mcreek25@aol.com Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58850 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58851 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58852 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58853 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58854 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58855 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Hunter's site is down
Group: pota Message: 58856 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Will the Apes "Rise" next week?
Group: pota Message: 58857 From: Eric Payton Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58858 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 58859 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Re: Hunter's site is down
Group: pota Message: 58860 From: James Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 58861 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Re: Hunter's site is down
Group: pota Message: 58862 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
Group: pota Message: 58863 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Re: Hunter's site is down
Group: pota Message: 58864 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Re: Hunter's site is down
Group: pota Message: 58865 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 58866 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 58867 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 58868 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58869 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58870 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 58871 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: Hunter's site is down
Group: pota Message: 58872 From: Kevin Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58873 From: Dario Sciola Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 58874 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 58875 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58876 From: V Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: I've been hacked
Group: pota Message: 58877 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58878 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58879 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58880 From: mcreek25@aol.com Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 58881 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 58882 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58883 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58884 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58885 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58886 From: James Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 58887 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58888 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58889 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58890 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58891 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58892 From: V Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: (no subject)
Group: pota Message: 58893 From: James Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 58894 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58895 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58896 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58897 From: _NJR_ Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: Next BROKENSEA BPOTA Episode?
Group: pota Message: 58898 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: Re: Next BROKENSEA BPOTA Episode?
Group: pota Message: 58899 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: Finally someone got something right.
Group: pota Message: 58900 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: OT: Making a Fox franchise: "The A-Team"
Group: pota Message: 58901 From: _NJR_ Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: Next BROKENSEA BPOTA Episode?
Group: pota Message: 58902 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Funny POTA Knockoff Toy
Group: pota Message: 58903 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58904 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: Next BROKENSEA BPOTA Episode?
Group: pota Message: 58905 From: Kevin Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58906 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: Dr. Smith hatred
Group: pota Message: 58907 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Making a Fox franchise: "The A-Team"
Group: pota Message: 58908 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: Finally someone got something right.
Group: pota Message: 58909 From: John1155@aol.com Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: Dr. Smith hatred
Group: pota Message: 58910 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Making a Fox franchise: "The Ape -Team"
Group: pota Message: 58911 From: johnroche49 Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Making a Fox franchise: "The Ape -Team"
Group: pota Message: 58912 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: Dr. Smith hatred
Group: pota Message: 58913 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58914 From: Kevin Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58915 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Ape City Chronicles/POTA Day Flag Contest
Group: pota Message: 58916 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58917 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: Ape City Chronicles/POTA Day Flag Contest
Group: pota Message: 58918 From: William Burge Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: planet items
Group: pota Message: 58919 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Making a Fox franchise: "The Ape -Team"
Group: pota Message: 58920 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58921 From: Kevin Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
Group: pota Message: 58922 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
Group: pota Message: 58923 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: Ape City Chronicles/POTA Day Flag Contest
Group: pota Message: 58924 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Dr. Smith Thread (OT)
Group: pota Message: 58925 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Ted Post
Group: pota Message: 58926 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Jess & Claudia
Group: pota Message: 58927 From: James Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 58928 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Re: planet items
Group: pota Message: 58929 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: OT: not so hot summer for Fox
Group: pota Message: 58930 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Re: Ted Post
Group: pota Message: 58931 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Re: OT: not so hot summer for Fox
Group: pota Message: 58932 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Re: OT: not so hot summer for Fox
Group: pota Message: 58933 From: mcreek25@aol.com Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Re: OT: not so hot summer for Fox
Group: pota Message: 58934 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Re: Ted Post



Group: pota Message: 58835 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
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http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/58824


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Stanley, Mark" <mstanley@...> wrote:
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> "P.S. The colors on the flags were based on the species colors from the
> movies."
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> Where is the reference for this on the site? I can't find it. I'd like
> to check it out. Thanks.
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Group: pota Message: 58836 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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I you went to buy a diamond and it had a little flaw
that look like a Pink Panther then it would be worth
something.  That's the original with the 3 Monkeys joke.
But if the gem was cracked all to hell and discolored?
That's Burton's film.  It's not an homage, it a parody.
 
 
In a message dated 6/3/2010 9:00:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, skintricks@... writes:
don't get the sheer hatred that Burton's Planet gets. 
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Group: pota Message: 58837 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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That's the difference between a movie that's
just okay and a great film.  If you had to cut
5 minutes, where would you cut.  Personally
I'd cut the dessert trek stuff.  But as Scheffner
said when asked why it was so long?  "It sets
the tone for the whole film."  In Burton's?  I'd
be spoided for choice in what to cut.  Only 5
minutes?  How about 10?  or 15? Sheesh!
 
 
In a message dated 6/4/2010 6:01:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, billhollweg@... writes:
It just wasn't very good...There were good parts here and there. Some great actors, was VERY cool seeing Heston  and Nova, Cool citiescapes and some groovy make-up..
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Group: pota Message: 58838 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
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I like the middle one but maybe without the words! and it would be cool if the background color was the gorillas color instead of black....the glyphs could be black.

I know you didn't ask for changes! just first thoughts lookin at them.......

Tim


From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 9:14:45 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Poll results for pota

 

The winner of the runoff poll is the July 14th date. Unfortunately, there is not enough lead time this year to do anything big but we can still celebrate it in the group.

One of the suggestions was to create a POTA day flag. An initial prototype was made up as an example but since then three candidate flags have been created for everyone to choose from. They are:

Flag 1: Based on the US flag

 

Flag 2: Based on European style flags

 

Flag 3: Based on the Gorilla Army flags in Beneath:

A new poll will be set up so everyone can vote for their favorite flag.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, pota@yahoogroups. com wrote:
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>
> The following pota poll is now closed. Here are the
> final results:
>
>
> POLL QUESTION: Which of these two dates should be choosen as POTA day?
>
> CHOICES AND RESULTS
> - February 8th - The date Planet premiered in 1968 and the date that the whole POTA phenomenon and franchise began. , 11 votes, 45.83%
> - July 14th - The date on Taylor's ship's clock at the start of Planet and ties into the summer event nature of the films. , 13 votes, 54.17%
>
>
>
> For more information about this group, please visit
> http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota
>
> For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit
> http://help. yahoo.com/ l/us/yahoo/ groups/original/ members/forms/ general.html/span>
>


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Group: pota Message: 58839 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: POTA and BENEATH on screen in San Jose, CA Aug. 11-15
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Atta girl Jess! Please report back to us about attendance , print quality, etc.
You can be in makeup in spirit!

Tim


From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 12:09:34 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA and BENEATH on screen in San Jose, CA Aug. 11-15

 

I changed my mind!  I'm going to watch the Sunday afternoon event on the 15th of August.  Just not in costume, since the next time I go under the goo I want it to be something I made.
 
Jess.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:20 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:
If there were someone else to come with me in ape gear, yes, definitely I would make the waves...but right now it's just me and I get tired of the negativity in my household.
 
Jess.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:10 AM, <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:
 

For this, I guess you'll need to know the way to San Jose!





-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@yahoo. com>
Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 8:53 am
Subject: [pota] POTA and BENEATH on screen in San Jose, CA Aug. 11-15

 

Planet of the Apes - Double Feature

at The Retro Dome, San Jose, CA

August 11-15
Planet of the Apes Double Feature

Planet of The Apes
Wed Aug 11 – 7pm
Fri Aug 13 – 7pm
Sat Aug 14 – 7pm
Sun Aug 15 – 1pm
 
with
 
Beneath the Planet of the Apes
Wed Aug 11 – 9pm
Fri Aug 13 – 9pm
Sat Aug 14 – 9pm
Sun Aug 15 – 3pm




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Group: pota Message: 58840 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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LOL!  To paraphrase Dick Zanuck...
Tim Burton & Planet of the Apes?
I can just smell the stink of failure!
 
 
In a message dated 6/4/2010 9:33:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes:
I totally agree. I was never a Burton fan in the first place. I even hate his Batmen movies that many others like. His style just doesn't do anything for me. I enjoy dark humor, but when it is mixed with camp...I just can't stand it.
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Group: pota Message: 58841 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Jar Jar Chimps
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Don't even joke about it.
It was as bad or worse than
Ewoks.  It was like Lucas
rubbing out nose in his
S*** and saying "You
Love It!  You WILL
loving anything I do!"
 
 
In a message dated 6/4/2010 5:58:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnroche49@... writes:
Wouldn't it be great if our new CGI'd Apes movie could create a kids friendly, loveable sidekick like Menace's Jar Jar Binks?
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Group: pota Message: 58842 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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In a message dated 6/4/2010 6:38:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:
> It just wasn't very good...There were good parts here and there.

Few and far between....

The entire movie feels like it was shot on a soundstage.  The jungle
never for a second makes you believe it's outdoors.
Reshoot in a real outdoor location.

The stupid jokes (mostly from Limbo) completely ruin everything else.
Limbo's outta there!


The makeup for Helena Bonham Carter was ridiculous.
Lose the eyebrows and change the wig to something more Ziraesque
and less Micheal Jackson.


The ending made no sense whatsoever, in any kind of way.
I can't believe they sent out a card in the DVD to explain the ending.
I understood it.  It was a head scratchier though.  It's not an episode of
LOST.  It's supposed to be a Shocker.  Not a Cliffhanger.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 58843 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
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What's wrong with one of the flags from Beneath?
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 8:50 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Poll results for pota

 


The winner of the runoff poll is the July 14th date. Unfortunately, there is not enough lead time this year to do anything big but we can still celebrate it in the group.
One of the suggestions was to create a POTA day flag. An initial prototype was made up as an example but since then three candidate flags have been created for everyone to choose from. They are:
Wait.... sorry, James, but I don't care for any of yours (don't like the colors).  Why not a contest where group members submit their suggestions, or photoshop work and then we vote on the winner?  July 14th could be the day the winner is revealed.



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Group: pota Message: 58844 From: mcreek25@aol.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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It is a sort of oxymoron that Hollywood does to the fans of big name properties.
 
Let's make a movie of the TV show, Lost in Space.  Then all the people who loved Lost in Space will go see the movie.  A built in audience.
 
Then, let's make a movie that has only the vaguest relationship to the original.
 
So that built in audience shows up, and is usually disappointed.  With LIS, I wanted the same basic show, with modern special effects.  What we got was not even close to LIS and was not a very good movie either.
 
At least if the movie is good on it's own merits, it will win over a few original fans.  Usually the remakes are not very good and don't mesh well with the original, so it gives the fans of the original two reasons to hate it.
 
I think that's why POTA fans and LIS fans both dislike the new movies so much.
 
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com
sgtsays.blogspot.com
hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
 
In a message dated 6/4/2010 4:06:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pellew@... writes:
A similar thing happened to the Lost In Space movie which worked fine as
a Sci Fi movie but not as fans remembered Lost In Space - also it is
said that ALL (note NOT most) Lost in Space fans hated the Movie - I
guess it's a good indication of how much the originals meant to fan and
a bad indicator of how 'MOST' fans react.
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Group: pota Message: 58845 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Mark Wahlberg's Birthday
 
Date:   Saturday June 5, 2010
Time:   All Day
Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
 
Yahoo! Greetings:   Send a Yahoo! Greeting
Yahoo! Shopping:   Browse Yahoo! Shopping Gift Guide
 
Copyright © 2010  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved |
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Group: pota Message: 58846 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
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What's wrong with one of the flags from Beneath?
Nothing.  That's suggestion number one, or four if you count what James has already done -- which I guess we are.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barkley <skintricks@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jun 4, 2010 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Poll results for pota

 
What's wrong with one of the flags from Beneath?
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 58847 From: scott bosco Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
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Where do we post or send submissions.  Also, is there a limit to the amount of submissions from on person?
- Scott B.

--- On Fri, 6/4/10, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
Subject: [pota] Re: Poll results for pota
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 1:42 PM

 
That's a great idea. The current poll will be canceled (apologies to those who already voted) and anyone that wants to submit their work can do so. Let's say the deadline for submissions is June 30th and we'll start another poll with the winner revealed on July 14th.
To make it even more interesting, the winner will get a prize: the two "Alpha: and "Omega" posters from the upcoming Conspiracy novel (see below). Plus everyone that enters will get a POTA Blu Ray button.
13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "ALPHA" by artist Joe Jusko
13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "OMEGA" by artist Sanjulian

P.S. The colors on the flags were based on the species colors from the movies.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> Wait.... sorry, James, but I don't care for any of yours (don't like the colors). Why not a contest where group members submit their suggestions, or photoshop work and then we vote on the winner? July 14th could be the day the winner is revealed.
>

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Group: pota Message: 58848 From: Chris Sutton Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
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That is Cool, July is my birthday. What are the mini posters for?
 
Chris Sutton 

--- On Fri, 6/4/10, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
Subject: [pota] Re: Poll results for pota
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 12:42 PM

 
That's a great idea. The current poll will be canceled (apologies to those who already voted) and anyone that wants to submit their work can do so. Let's say the deadline for submissions is June 30th and we'll start another poll with the winner revealed on July 14th.
To make it even more interesting, the winner will get a prize: the two "Alpha: and "Omega" posters from the upcoming Conspiracy novel (see below). Plus everyone that enters will get a POTA Blu Ray button.
13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "ALPHA" by artist Joe Jusko
13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "OMEGA" by artist Sanjulian

P.S. The colors on the flags were based on the species colors from the movies.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Wait.... sorry, James, but I don't care for any of yours (don't like the colors). Why not a contest where group members submit their suggestions, or photoshop work and then we vote on the winner? July 14th could be the day the winner is revealed.
>

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Group: pota Message: 58849 From: mcreek25@aol.com Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
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Possible copyright problems?
 
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com
sgtsays.blogspot.com
hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
 
In a message dated 6/4/2010 9:19:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
What's wrong with one of the flags from Beneath?
Nothing.  That's suggestion number one, or four if you count what James has already done -- which I guess we are.
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You can send them right to the group or upload them to this folder in the Files section: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTA%20Day%20Flags/

Or you can just email them to me and I'll upload them.

And there is no limit of submissions.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> Where do we post or send submissions.  Also, is there a limit to the amount of submissions from on person?
> - Scott B.
>

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Group: pota Message: 58851 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/5/2010
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More like this?


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I like the middle one but maybe without the words! and it would be cool if the background color was the gorillas color instead of black....the glyphs could be black.
>
> I know you didn't ask for changes! just first thoughts lookin at them.......
>
> Tim
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 58852 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/5/2010
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If we worried about copyright problems about 90% of the stuff on the group wouldn't be here. :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
>
> Possible copyright problems?
>

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Group: pota Message: 58853 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Poll results for pota
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The mini-posters are from the new Conspiracy novel by Blam Ventures that is coming out later this year.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Sutton <apecityusa@...> wrote:
>
> That is Cool, July is my birthday. What are the mini posters for?
>  
> Chris Sutton 
>

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Group: pota Message: 58854 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/5/2010
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Yeah cool! although I'd even take out the words....but that's me...
I use the three Ape colors as a ID mark on all my paint equipment.......



From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, June 5, 2010 10:10:35 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Poll results for pota

 

More like this?


--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I like the middle one but maybe without the words! and it would be cool if the background color was the gorillas color instead of black....the glyphs could be black.
>
> I know you didn't ask for changes! just first thoughts lookin at them.......
>
> Tim
>
>


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Group: pota Message: 58855 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Hunter's site is down
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Just FYI, my Apes site (and all my others) is down until possibly sometime
Monday.

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 58856 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Will the Apes "Rise" next week?
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   The Licensing International Expo hits Las Vegas June 8 - 10 and the studios are unveiling logos and announcing merchandising deals for 2011 films. Perhaps Fox will make some "Rise of the Apes" related announcements? We'll see how big this film is to their 2011 slate. www.collider.com already has some logos for 2011 films.
 
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Group: pota Message: 58857 From: Eric Payton Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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I agree with Scheffner...the desert trek was a great build-up.



From: "LordTZer0@..." <LordTZer0@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 7:07:03 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] burton hatred

 

 
That's the difference between a movie that's
just okay and a great film.  If you had to cut
5 minutes, where would you cut.  Personally
I'd cut the dessert trek stuff.  But as Scheffner
said when asked why it was so long?  "It sets
the tone for the whole film."  In Burton's?  I'd
be spoided for choice in what to cut.  Only 5
minutes?  How about 10?  or 15? Sheesh!
 
 
In a message dated 6/4/2010 6:01:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, billhollweg@ gmail.com writes:
It just wasn't very good...There were good parts here and there. Some great actors, was VERY cool seeing Heston  and Nova, Cool citiescapes and some groovy make-up..

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Title:   Paul Giamatti's Birthday
 
Date:   Sunday June 6, 2010
Time:   All Day
Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
Notes:   Limbo in POTA 2001
 
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Group: pota Message: 58859 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 6/6/2010
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
<will await patiently amigo>
;-)

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

Just FYI, my Apes site (and all my others) is down until possibly sometime
Monday.

Hunter




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/
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Group: pota Message: 58860 From: James Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"

Three reasons why “Planet of the Apes” doesn't need a redo ...
By moniquej
Lately, news erupted over the casting of James Franco in the latest Planet of the Apes redux, with the plot being that talking apes were the result of a g...
Moniqueblog - http://moniqueblog.net/

Rise of the Apes Audition Info
By Bruce Simmons
Ever felt like you wanted to be one of the Planet of the Apes movie? Maybe you have a chance with the auditions that are going on these days for Rise of the Apes, the prequel to Planet of the Apes. Rise of the Apes takes place in of all ...
Stuff on Brusimm (SoB) - http://brusimm.com/?q=http://www.evilaliv3.org/

Zee Risek art blog: planet of the humans
By Easy Zee
A classic scene from one of the Planet Of The Apes sequels; who can ever forget the image of the astronauts coming back to Earth, only to reveal that it's the apes! Posted by Easy Zee at 6:44 AM. Labels: Planet Of The Apes ...
Zee Risek art blog - http://zeerisekart.blogspot.com/

FISH WRAP: Escape from the Planet of the Apes
By Andy
ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES (1971) Well, they came up with a pretty clever take-- even if the budget cuts were starting to show. While Ursus and Zauis were blowing up the Earth in their plan against the mutants Zira and Cornelius ...
FISH WRAP - http://andyfishwrap.blogspot.com/

VIDEO OF THE DAY Monkey controls robot - Pocket-lint
By Ian Hughes
Haven't these people seen Planet of the Apes?! They'll be teaching them to play Call of Duty next! We're doomed, I tell you, doomed
If you've seen a video online that you want to tell us about email us via the feedback form. ...
Pocket-lint - http://www.pocket-lint.com/

 

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Group: pota Message: 58861 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/6/2010
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Oh the humanities!

Or should that be apemanities? ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> <will await patiently amigo>
> ;-)
>

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Group: pota Message: 58862 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/6/2010
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Yeah but without the words it becomes a more generic POTA flag rather than be specific to POTA Day.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah cool! although I'd even take out the words....but that's me...
> I use the three Ape colors as a ID mark on all my paint equipment.......
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 58863 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Re: Hunter's site is down
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> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

> <will await patiently amigo>
> ;-)

8-) It's back online now. Thanks!

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 58864 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Re: Hunter's site is down
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shew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

> <will await patiently amigo>
> ;-)

8-) It's back online now. Thanks!

Hunter


--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/
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Group: pota Message: 58865 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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I wonder if anyone here (that's in CA) will audition?




-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 6, 2010 10:13 am
Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 
FYI
 
Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"
Three reasons why "Planet of the Apes" doesn't need a redo ...
By moniquej
Lately, news erupted over the casting of James Franco in the latest Planet of the Apes redux, with the plot being that talking apes were the result of a g...
Moniqueblog - http://moniqueblog. net/
Rise of the Apes Audition Info
By Bruce Simmons
Ever felt like you wanted to be one of the Planet of the Apes movie? Maybe you have a chance with the auditions that are going on these days for Rise of the Apes, the prequel to Planet of the Apes. Rise of the Apes takes place in of all ...
Stuff on Brusimm (SoB) - http://brusimm. com/?q=http: //www.evilaliv3. org/
Zee Risek art blog: planet of the humans
By Easy Zee
A classic scene from one of the Planet Of The Apes sequels; who can ever forget the image of the astronauts coming back to Earth, only to reveal that it's the apes! Posted by Easy Zee at 6:44 AM. Labels: Planet Of The Apes ...
Zee Risek art blog - http://zeerisekart. blogspot. com/
FISH WRAP: Escape from the Planet of the Apes
By Andy
ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES (1971) Well, they came up with a pretty clever take-- even if the budget cuts were starting to show. While Ursus and Zauis were blowing up the Earth in their plan against the mutants Zira and Cornelius ...
FISH WRAP - http://andyfishwrap .blogspot. com/
VIDEO OF THE DAY Monkey controls robot - Pocket-lint
By Ian Hughes
Haven't these people seen Planet of the Apes?! They'll be teaching them to play Call of Duty next! We're doomed, I tell you, doomed
If you've seen a video online that you want to tell us about email us via the feedback form. ...
Pocket-lint - http://www.pocket- lint.com/
 
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Group: pota Message: 58866 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/6/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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  Doesn't make any sense to cast in California if they're shooting in Vancouver. Except it's supposed to take place in San Francisco so maybe they want a California flavor. 
 

Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 4:59 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

I wonder if anyone here (that's in CA) will audition?





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Group: pota Message: 58867 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 6/6/2010
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Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Colleen Camp's Birthday
 
Date:   Monday June 7, 2010
Time:   All Day
Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
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Group: pota Message: 58868 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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The problem with LIS was in the original it was a bit like
Gilligan's Island.  They would have been off that rock a
dozen times over if Gilligan hadn't blown in nearly every
episode.  In LIS you would have thought Dr. Smith was a
mincing pedophile, except instead of going after Will, he
usually sold him to Alien Gypsies show after show. But
I once saw a website that claimed that the subtext for
Gilligan's Island was the Seven Deadly Sins.  The Howells
were Greed & Sloth, The Skipper was Gluttony, Ginger was
Vanity, Maryanne was Envy, The Professor was Pride, and
Gilligan was the Devil, keeping them all on the Island.  Sort
of a comi-tragic version of LOST!  Makes sense to me!
 
 
In a message dated 6/4/2010 10:14:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mcreek25@... writes:
Then, let's make a movie that has only the vaguest relationship to the original.
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Group: pota Message: 58869 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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That was one of the many things missing from the rebake.
You had to feel like you were stuck on an alien planet. No
build up there.  Bam! I'm in a storm.  Crashing.  In a swamp!
In a forest!  Ah!  Flying Monkeys!  And they can talk!  Nothing.
 
In a message dated 6/5/2010 7:43:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes:
I agree with Scheffner... the desert trek was a great build-up.
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Group: pota Message: 58870 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/7/2010
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Vancouver has been a substitute
LA for a while now.  Since they aren't
putting actors in makeup, I'm guessing 
that they aren't there for the cool weather.
Probably just to save a buck in a non union local. 
 
In a message dated 6/6/2010 8:20:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
  Doesn't make any sense to cast in California if they're shooting in Vancouver. Except it's supposed to take place in San Francisco so maybe they want a California flavor. 
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Group: pota Message: 58871 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: Hunter's site is down
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Human Manatees?
Now there's a Movie!
 
 
In a message dated 6/6/2010 9:24:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

Oh the humanities!

Or should that be apemanities? ;-)

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Group: pota Message: 58872 From: Kevin Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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Dr Smith wasnot and was never intended to be a mincing pedophile

KJ
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Group: pota Message: 58873 From: Dario Sciola Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Vancouver/BC productions are just as unionized as LA/California. The
reason productions came to Canada was because of the disparity in
currency value. But that is no longer the case as we've been flirting
with parity for some time and on a few occasions have even surpassed
the US dollar.

It still may be cheaper for some productions as other costs may be
lower, but it would not be for lack of unions.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: LordTZer0@...
Date: Monday, June 7, 2010 5:17 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

>
> Vancouver has been a substitute
> LA for a while now. Since they aren't
> putting actors in makeup, I'm guessing
> that they aren't there for the cool weather.
> Probably just to save a buck in a non union local.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/6/2010 8:20:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> veetus@... writes:
>
> Doesn't make any sense to cast in California if they're shooting
> in
> Vancouver. Except it's supposed to take place in San Francisco so
> maybe they want
> a California flavor.
>
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Group: pota Message: 58874 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Doesn't make any sense to cast in California if they're shooting in Vancouver. Except it's supposed to take place in San Francisco so maybe they want a California flavor. 
Maybe Fox just wants to keep CA actors happy, or perhaps people in Vancouver are too pale (the white ones, that is).  I don't know.  Everything's crazy these days.



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Group: pota Message: 58875 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
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Never got it....
 
Anyone....
 
Robert Mansell
 
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Group: pota Message: 58876 From: V Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: I've been hacked
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So sorry, I've never had this happen before. I'll find the problem or shut down the email or whatever I need to do.
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Group: pota Message: 58877 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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I must have missed that ????
 
Robert Mansell
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] burton hatred

 

Dr Smith wasnot and was never intended to be a mincing pedophile

KJ

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Group: pota Message: 58878 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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I can't stand Burton either, he has only made ONE film that I thought was good "Ed Wood"
 
In fact it's almost perfect, but that's just me.
 
Robert Mansell
 
From: jamesa1102
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:48 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: burton hatred

 

I would let it be if they took it off cable, destroyed all the DVDs and burned every copy & negative of the film. It is a terrible film that tarnishes the entire POTA franchise.

As far as Burton, I was never a fan of his and other than a handful of his films, mainly the early ones, I've found most of his work pointless and unwatchable crap.

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Group: pota Message: 58879 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/7/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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POTA 2001 is ok as a standalone, apart from the ending, which as we know makes NO SENSE....
 
Robert Mansell
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:21 AM
Subject: [pota] burton hatred

 

So. most of the POTA fans obviously hate POTA '01.  I look at it as an action film with apes.  Why are most of you sooo against letting it be?  There have been numerous other movies that have been remade and they just go on sitting quietly on the shelf.  But not POTA.  Why?  Sometimes the books are followed, sometimes not.  But POTA being "reimagined" ( with the ending being the only thing remotely resembling the book) is BLASPHEMY!  I don't understand.  Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland, King Kong, Frankenstein, Dracula, The Wolfman, Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead---just to name a few---don't get the sheer hatred that Burton's Planet gets. 
 
Jeff B

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Group: pota Message: 58880 From: mcreek25@aol.com Date: 6/7/2010
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LA has a lot of legal requirements to film in their city. If you are filming outdoors you have to have at least one police officer on duty, at about $40 per hour.  If you are driving around or blocking streets, the number of officers goes up.  If you have even a small firecracker, you have to have a fireman on duty too.  And so on with many other permits and fees and etc.  Not just the high union payscale, but union benefits and work rules are expensive in LA too.  Not to mention crime and traffic and other problems that are probably less in Canada.
 
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com
sgtsays.blogspot.com
hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
 
In a message dated 6/7/2010 11:45:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, darios@... writes:
Vancouver/BC productions are just as unionized as LA/California. The
reason productions came to Canada was because of the disparity in
currency value. But that is no longer the case as we've been flirting
with parity for some time and on a few occasions have even surpassed
the US dollar.

It still may be cheaper for some productions as other costs may be
lower, but it would not be for lack of unions.

Dario
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Group: pota Message: 58881 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/8/2010
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It might have something to do with the size of the sound stages in Vancouver and all that green screen they're going to need. In any event, I'm sure we'll know when we get to view the DVD extra featurette on the making of the thing -- in about a year and a half.



-----Original Message-----
From: mcreek25@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 
LA has a lot of legal requirements to film in their city. If you are filming outdoors you have to have at least one police officer on duty, at about $40 per hour.  If you are driving around or blocking streets, the number of officers goes up.  If you have even a small firecracker, you have to have a fireman on duty too.  And so on with many other permits and fees and etc.  Not just the high union payscale, but union benefits and work rules are expensive in LA too.  Not to mention crime and traffic and other problems that are probably less in Canada.
 
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister. blogspot. com
sgtsays.blogspot. com
hystericalrightwing .blogspot. com
 
In a message dated 6/7/2010 11:45:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, darios@... writes:
Vancouver/BC productions are just as unionized as LA/California. The
reason productions came to Canada was because of the disparity in
currency value. But that is no longer the case as we've been flirting
with parity for some time and on a few occasions have even surpassed
the US dollar.

It still may be cheaper for some productions as other costs may be
lower, but it would not be for lack of unions.

Dario
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Group: pota Message: 58882 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
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Am I the ONLY one that liked the ending?  The speculations were that Thade escaped in the sunken pod and went back to earth's past and changed everything.  MY interpretation was Leo went back to earth, but it doesn't mean he went back to HIS earth.  Think of Back to the Future 2.  Or, like they preached in Star Trek...1 small change can affect the future entirely.
 
Jeff B
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:21 AM
Subject: [pota] POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..

 

Never got it....
 
Anyone....
 
Robert Mansell
 

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Group: pota Message: 58883 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/8/2010
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  Burton said in the commentary that he left the ending wide open so there'd be all kinds of opportunities for the sequel (though he adds he doesn't think in terms of sequels). He said he talked to Tim Roth about the sequel so I assume it would have followed Thade. How ape-propriate that the ending was so devised for a sequel that it turned audiences off and resulted in no sequel.

Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..

 

Am I the ONLY one that liked the ending?  The speculations were that Thade escaped in the sunken pod and went back to earth's past and changed everything.  MY interpretation was Leo went back to earth, but it doesn't mean he went back to HIS earth.  Think of Back to the Future 2.  Or, like they preached in Star Trek...1 small change can affect the future entirely.
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Group: pota Message: 58884 From: Robert Mansell Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
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Ok
 
Leo went forward in the anomoly but that doesn't explain how Thade went backwards....
 
Robert Mansell
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:06 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..

 

Am I the ONLY one that liked the ending?  The speculations were that Thade escaped in the sunken pod and went back to earth's past and changed everything.  MY interpretation was Leo went back to earth, but it doesn't mean he went back to HIS earth.  Think of Back to the Future 2.  Or, like they preached in Star Trek...1 small change can affect the future entirely.
 
Jeff B
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Group: pota Message: 58885 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 6/8/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
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or possibly like the book which stated Ulysses went to another world and found the apes, and then came back to Earth- and Apes were there too?

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

Burton said in the commentary that he left the ending wide open so there'd be all kinds of opportunities for the sequel (though he adds he doesn't think in terms of sequels). He said he talked to Tim Roth about the sequel so I assume it would have followed Thade. How ape-propriate that the ending was so devised for a sequel that it turned audiences off and resulted in no sequel.




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/
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Burton said in the commentary that he left the ending wide open so there'd be all kinds of opportunities for the sequel (though he adds he doesn't think in terms of sequels). He said he talked to Tim Roth about the sequel so I assume it would have followed Thade. How ape-propriate that the ending was so devised for a sequel that it turned audiences off and resulted in no sequel.
Do you guys who were here back in 2001 remember how just a few weeks after its release I started saying there'd be no sequel, and how it got at least one that I recall mad?  But, I knew there'd be no sequel... simply because the movie was AND IS a bad film.  It was a critical flop.  HUGE!  This is a fact, not my opinion, to which I'll add this...
 
Fox had better not be doing a prequel to POTA2001.  THEY HAD BLOODY WELL BETTER NOT BE!  That movie is a turd that needs to be forgotten.  I hate when I ever have to be reminded of it -- LIKE NOW!
 
For all of you here that like or can tolorate the movie, fine... whatever.... but for me, a turd is a turd is a turd.
 
If the Pope or the President or Steven Hawkings came out tomorrow and said, "I've figured out the ending of POTA2001!!!," I'd say "Are you nuts?!!  Who cares?  The movie's a TURD!!!!!!"
 
-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 58888 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/8/2010
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  You have to assume those that leave earlier arrive later. Pericles left first but arrived after Marky Mark. We assume Thade left in the submerged pod way after Marky Mark left (he had to get out of the ship, find the pod, etc. (perhaps Burton's take on the questionability of Dr. Milo's exploits leading to "Escape"). Thade leaves waaaay after Marky Mark, I mean Mr. Wahlberg, and so he arrives waaaay before him on the Earth. Either that or it's an alternate timeline where the Thade who would've been in the ship stayed on Earth and took over. Something like that.

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..

 

Ok
 
Leo went forward in the anomoly but that doesn't explain how Thade went backwards... .
 
Robert Mansell
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:06 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..

 

Am I the ONLY one that liked the ending?  The speculations were that Thade escaped in the sunken pod and went back to earth's past and changed everything.  MY interpretation was Leo went back to earth, but it doesn't mean he went back to HIS earth.  Think of Back to the Future 2.  Or, like they preached in Star Trek...1 small change can affect the future entirely.
 
Jeff B

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Group: pota Message: 58889 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/8/2010
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  You contradicted yourself, sir... You said you always knew they'd never do another POTA2001 yet you're not sure if they're doing one now. If it's true they'll never do a sequel to POTA2001 you have nothing to worry about with "Rise of the Apes".
  Yeah, I believed they'd do a sequel because POTA is too good a franchise to let sit and Burton's did well from a financial standpoint. The idea that they don't do sequels to bad movies just isn't true. I think they've lost out on a cash cow the last 10 years by not doing one. They could've easily done a better sequel and  been on to the 4rth POTA film already (they certainly have continued with the "X-Men" movies even though the criticism of X3 was worse than POTA2001). So it was an educated guess that didn't pan out.
  But that's fine with me. POTA hid in a dark corner for a decade and now they can start fresh with a different breed. I hope a better one. I leave the 2000's with no regrets.
  Oh, one more thing. If anybody's listening, that is. But seen from out here, POTA seems different. Franchises bend, the POTA storyline seems boundless. It squashes a fan's ego. I feel lonely.
  Tell me something, though. Does Fox, that marvel of a studio, that glorious paradox that sent Boulle's book to the movies, still make war against integrity? Keep it's audience's children starving for quality?
 

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:51 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..

 


Burton said in the commentary that he left the ending wide open so there'd be all kinds of opportunities for the sequel (though he adds he doesn't think in terms of sequels). He said he talked to Tim Roth about the sequel so I assume it would have followed Thade. How ape-propriate that the ending was so devised for a sequel that it turned audiences off and resulted in no sequel.
Do you guys who were here back in 2001 remember how just a few weeks after its release I started saying there'd be no sequel, and how it got at least one that I recall mad?  But, I knew there'd be no sequel... simply because the movie was AND IS a bad film.  It was a critical flop.  HUGE!  This is a fact, not my opinion, to which I'll add this...
 
Fox had better not be doing a prequel to POTA2001.  THEY HAD BLOODY WELL BETTER NOT BE!  That movie is a turd that needs to be forgotten.  I hate when I ever have to be reminded of it -- LIKE NOW!
 
For all of you here that like or can tolorate the movie, fine... whatever.... but for me, a turd is a turd is a turd.
 
If the Pope or the President or Steven Hawkings came out tomorrow and said, "I've figured out the ending of POTA2001!!!, " I'd say "Are you nuts?!!  Who cares?  The movie's a TURD!!!!!!"
 
-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 58890 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 6/8/2010
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So, what you're saying is...you don't like the movie overall?  Or am I misreading?
 
Jeff B
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:51 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..

 


Burton said in the commentary that he left the ending wide open so there'd be all kinds of opportunities for the sequel (though he adds he doesn't think in terms of sequels). He said he talked to Tim Roth about the sequel so I assume it would have followed Thade. How ape-propriate that the ending was so devised for a sequel that it turned audiences off and resulted in no sequel.
Do you guys who were here back in 2001 remember how just a few weeks after its release I started saying there'd be no sequel, and how it got at least one that I recall mad?  But, I knew there'd be no sequel... simply because the movie was AND IS a bad film.  It was a critical flop.  HUGE!  This is a fact, not my opinion, to which I'll add this...
 
Fox had better not be doing a prequel to POTA2001.  THEY HAD BLOODY WELL BETTER NOT BE!  That movie is a turd that needs to be forgotten.  I hate when I ever have to be reminded of it -- LIKE NOW!
 
For all of you here that like or can tolorate the movie, fine... whatever.... but for me, a turd is a turd is a turd.
 
If the Pope or the President or Steven Hawkings came out tomorrow and said, "I've figured out the ending of POTA2001!!!, " I'd say "Are you nuts?!!  Who cares?  The movie's a TURD!!!!!!"
 
-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 58891 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 6/8/2010
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LOL! Liked the quotes! :o)
 
Al


From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 6:22:16 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..

 

  You contradicted yourself, sir... You said you always knew they'd never do another POTA2001 yet you're not sure if they're doing one now. If it's true they'll never do a sequel to POTA2001 you have nothing to worry about with "Rise of the Apes".
  Yeah, I believed they'd do a sequel because POTA is too good a franchise to let sit and Burton's did well from a financial standpoint. The idea that they don't do sequels to bad movies just isn't true. I think they've lost out on a cash cow the last 10 years by not doing one. They could've easily done a better sequel and  been on to the 4rth POTA film already (they certainly have continued with the "X-Men" movies even though the criticism of X3 was worse than POTA2001). So it was an educated guess that didn't pan out.
  But that's fine with me. POTA hid in a dark corner for a decade and now they can start fresh with a different breed. I hope a better one. I leave the 2000's with no regrets.
  Oh, one more thing. If anybody's listening, that is. But seen from out here, POTA seems different. Franchises bend, the POTA storyline seems boundless. It squashes a fan's ego. I feel lonely.
  Tell me something, though. Does Fox, that marvel of a studio, that glorious paradox that sent Boulle's book to the movies, still make war against integrity? Keep it's audience's children starving for quality?
 

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Group: pota Message: 58892 From: V Date: 6/9/2010
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Hi, all - I simply had to change my password, looks like. No new messages using my address were sent since early Monday afternoon. 
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Group: pota Message: 58893 From: James Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"

Secure Immaturity » Planet of the Apes Week: Planet of the Apes (1968)
By will
I could go on all day about the social commentary in the 1968 classic Planet of the Apes but I suppose, over time, it is a tired thing to do that. Planet of the Apes is one of those cultural phenomenons that is permanently ingrained in ...
Secure Immaturity - http://secureimmaturity.com/

Sleaze Diary: Apes a Go Go
By Doc Sleaze
However, with the growing popularity of monkey movies such as Planet of the Apes, and the success of Bonzo pictures on morning TV, meant that finance was available for this strange movie genre. For those fans of monkey movies, ...
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The Movie Snob: TUESDAY TOP 10: Film's Best Twist Endings...
By The Movie Snob
Sometimes twist endings produces groans (Planet of the Apes, 2001); sometimes they produce gasps. A lot of the time the twist seems so obvious the second time around, but that is a testament to the craft of the filmmaker, ...
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Planet of the Apes Movie Marathon on Syfy
This month Syfy is running a Planet of the Apes marathon with a movie per night, ranging from the 1968 original to 2001's remake.
www.earthsmightiest.com/fansites/planetoftheapes/news/?a...

Planet of the Apes | Plugged In Online Video Reviews
Tim Burton insists this is not a remake or a sequel, but a "re-imagining" of Boulle's novel. Prepare for toys, trading cards and lunch boxes all over again.
www.pluggedin.com/videos/2010/q2/~/link.aspx?_id...z...

 

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Group: pota Message: 58894 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/9/2010
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You contradicted yourself, sir... You said you always knew they'd never do another POTA2001 yet you're not sure if they're doing one now.
No... actually I'm pretty sure RISE OF THE APES will turn out to be a prequel to the original movie.  We'll see if I'm right -- again.
 
-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 58895 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/9/2010
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I think they've lost out on a cash cow the last 10 years by not doing one. They could've easily done a better sequel and  been on to the 4rth POTA film already
I think you're delusional, Veetus!  A fourth film based on that turd?!!!!  Fox would have by this time so driven a stake into the heart of POTA that it'd would be right up there with the other "great" film series of all time, like The Bowery Boys or Charlie Chan, or have you forgotten how those ended?  Fox would have by now done to APES what Universal did to Frankenstein.
 
Thank the Lawgiver someone at Fox knew better than to do a follow-up to one of the studio's worst films.
 
-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 58896 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/9/2010
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So, what you're saying is...you don't like the movie overall?  Or am I misreading?
 
Jeff B

I don't like the movie PERIOD!
 
Overall, I'd take one of those Dr. Zaius frontal lobotomies if I was sure it would wipe clear all memory of that celluloid turd.
 
-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 58897 From: _NJR_ Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: Next BROKENSEA BPOTA Episode?
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Greetings all! I see that those from BrokenSea Audio who produce the POTA Audios frequent here, so I was wondering if there's any set timetable for the next episode--#5--of BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES will be posted? And are any future episode release dates are forthcoming? (Not to mention the digital trading cards?)

Thanks in advance!
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Group: pota Message: 58898 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 6/9/2010
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Yes there will be, bear with me and thank you for asking.
;-)
With kids out for the summer and playing softball and other activities and my Day job at the ad-firm as well as side jobs from the house <I am a graphic artist> getting bizzy as well, have gotten way behind.
So bear with me-as soon as life slows down a bit. More BPOTA will be rolling out. All the lines are in for the next 5 episodes, just have to find the time to mix them.
Again, apologies for the delays, and thank you for asking.
~Bill Hollweg

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, _NJR_ <njr75003@...> wrote:

Greetings all! I see that those from BrokenSea Audio who produce the POTA Audios frequent here, so I was wondering if there's any set timetable for the next episode--#5--of BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES will be posted? And are any future episode release dates are forthcoming? (Not to mention the digital trading cards?)

Thanks in advance!




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/
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Group: pota Message: 58899 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: Finally someone got something right.
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I'm not a big fan of remakes, but this time someone got it right.  In the remake of Fright Night, Peter Vincent (played by Roddy McDowall in the original) will be played by David Tennant.  He is my first choice for ANY part played previously by Roddy.
 
Jeff B 
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Group: pota Message: 58900 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/10/2010
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 Fox's movie version of the TV show "The A-Team" is another 10 year odyssey that comes to an end this weekend. The devilish Nikki Finke wrote up an amusing article (amusing if "Apes" wasn't back in Fox's crosshairs) about it's development hell. FYI for those who are interested.
 
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Group: pota Message: 58901 From: _NJR_ Date: 6/10/2010
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Thanks for the quick response, Bill. Love the series, and think you and the cast are doing a GREAT job in reinterpreting the classic movie series! (Especially love Mark Kalita as Cornelius & the Lawgiver, but I think that's my love of his DOCTOR WHO as well spilling over. :) )

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> Yes there will be, bear with me and thank you for asking.
> ;-)
>
> With kids out for the summer and playing softball and other activities and
> my Day job at the ad-firm as well as side jobs from the house <I am a
> graphic artist> getting bizzy as well, have gotten way behind.
>
> So bear with me-as soon as life slows down a bit. More BPOTA will be rolling
> out. All the lines are in for the next 5 episodes, just have to find the
> time to mix them.
>
> Again, apologies for the delays, and thank you for asking.
>
> ~Bill Hollweg
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, _NJR_ <njr75003@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Greetings all! I see that those from BrokenSea Audio who produce the POTA
> > Audios frequent here, so I was wondering if there's any set timetable for
> > the next episode--#5--of BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES will be posted? And
> > are any future episode release dates are forthcoming? (Not to mention the
> > digital trading cards?)
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
> www.brokensea.net
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes at
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://www.brokensea.com and
> CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> http://brokensea.com/conan/
>
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Group: pota Message: 58902 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Funny POTA Knockoff Toy
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Group: pota Message: 58903 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/10/2010
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Then I guess he wasn't acting.
 
 
In a message dated 6/7/2010 7:36:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pellew@... writes:
Dr Smith wasnot and was never intended to be a mincing pedophile
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Group: pota Message: 58904 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 6/10/2010
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Thanks my friend- apprecite it!
As with everyone here I have a love of the movies and TV show <and cartoons and Power Records and comics for that matter> and I guess this is my way both making a dream of mine come true as well as giving back to the POTA yahoo and community at large <as everyone here has done for me- since I joined back in 2007-- from all the cool stuff here, to Siman Scrolls, to Terry Hoknes Groovy Simian Mag, to the honor of getting to do the Audio for the lost Escape scenes, but especially ALL good friends I have made and continue to make here>. I can't say enough about the POTA Yahoo, But I must say THANK YOU to the POTA YAhoo and all here, for keeping the dream alive for us all online!
And yes, I am STILL STUNNED everytime I get Mark Kalits's lines for Cornelius and the Lawgiver! And he IS Doctor Who over at BrokenSea!
;-)
Another person who blows me away with their VA lines is Glen Scheetz, his Lucius- BRILLIANT! And his Lucifer in my Battlestar Galactica audio drama Stole the SHOW!
Thanks again for the kind words!
~Bill


On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:24 PM, _NJR_ <njr75003@...> wrote:

Thanks for the quick response, Bill. Love the series, and think you and the cast are doing a GREAT job in reinterpreting the classic movie series! (Especially love Mark Kalita as Cornelius & the Lawgiver, but I think that's my love of his DOCTOR WHO as well spilling over. :) )



--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/
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Group: pota Message: 58905 From: Kevin Date: 6/10/2010
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Not funny dude.

Jonathan never knew that Dr Smith was percieved in this way - in fact
after a 'cameo' in THE SIMPSONs (his voice wasnt used but his likeness
was) he contacted Dick Tufeld (the voice of the Robot which was used)
and asked if fans thought that he was gay - he just did not see it -
Camp meant something different back then.

Jonathan was not a pedophile.

KJ

LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Then I guess he wasn't acting.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/7/2010 7:36:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> pellew@... writes:
>
> Dr Smith wasnot and was never intended to be a mincing pedophile
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 58906 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: Dr. Smith hatred
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Not funny dude.

Jonathan never knew that Dr Smith was perceived in this way - in fact
after a 'cameo' in THE SIMPSONs (his voice wasn't used but his likeness
was) he contacted Dick Tufeld (the voice of the Robot which was used)
and asked if fans thought that he was gay - he just did not see it -
Camp meant something different back then.

Jonathan was not a pedophile.

KJ


Ok, I'm going to add my two cents to this, not because I love "Lost in Space" (which I don't -- the show rather bores and annoys me now), but because it's another of those "Fox things" I grew up watching and like to think I know pretty well.
Dr. Smith was NOT a pedophile (of course not, just like Anthony Newley in DR. DOOLITTLE isn't one) -- but he sure was put in the position to be taken as one!  What he was was a small-minded, self-centered, self-destructive fey (which doesn't mean gay) twit!  No, if I were to amuse myself with wondering if Dr. Smith was gay, I'd look more toward his relationship with the robot than with any imagined encounters with Will Robinson.
 
Oh, the pain, the pain.
 
And by the way, Roddy McDowall was often VERY fey as Galen, but that doesn't mean Galen was gay -- McDowall, yes, the chimp, no.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 58907 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Making a Fox franchise: "The A-Team"
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Fox's movie version of the TV show "The A-Team" is another 10 year odyssey that comes to an end this weekend. The devilish Nikki Finke wrote up an amusing article (amusing if "Apes" wasn't back in Fox's crosshairs) about it's development hell. FYI for those who are interested.
 
Well, at least this Alex Young guy isn't involved with RISE OF THE APES -- or is he?!


 


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Group: pota Message: 58908 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/10/2010
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I'm not a big fan of remakes, but this time someone got it right.  In the remake of Fright Night, Peter Vincent (played by Roddy McDowall in the original) will be played by David Tennant.  He is my first choice for ANY part played previously by Roddy.
 
Jeff B 
He kind of annoyed me as Dr. Who.  He's more than a little hyper.  One would hope that the director of this new FRIGHT NIGHT (like we need a remake of this) can get him to underplay, underplay.
 
-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 58909 From: John1155@aol.com Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: Dr. Smith hatred
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I bame it all on Irwin Allen. He let the Dr Smith character go from one extreme to the other.
 
In a message dated 6/10/2010 10:40:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
Ok, I'm going to add my two cents to this, not because I love "Lost in Space" (which I don't -- the show rather bores and annoys me now), but because it's another of those "Fox things" I grew up watching and like to think I know pretty well.
Dr. Smith was NOT a pedophile (of course not, just like Anthony Newley in DR. DOOLITTLE isn't one) -- but he sure was put in the position to be taken as one!  What he was was a small-minded, self-centered, self-destructive fey (which doesn't mean gay) twit!  No, if I were to amuse myself with wondering if Dr. Smith was gay, I'd look more toward his relationship with the robot than with any imagined encounters with Will Robinson.
 
Oh, the pain, the pain.
 
And by the way, Roddy McDowall was often VERY fey as Galen, but that doesn't mean Galen was gay -- McDowall, yes, the chimp, no.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 58910 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Making a Fox franchise: "The Ape -Team"
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  No Alex Young.
  The interesting thing is that the producer is Peter Chernin who used to run Fox and eventually became #2 for the entire News Corp. Now he's started Chernin Entertainment and "Rise of the Apes" will be their very first movie, though they have a big TV show that will start before, "Terra Nova" starring Linda Harrison. OK, not starring Linda, it's dinosaurs and Spielberg.
  Since Chernin is a former Fox guy, one might assume it's more of the same, but maybe he'll want to make something better as a movie producer. He certainly has more clout at Fox than another producer might have.
  The producer on the Fox side is once again our old friend Ralph Winter.

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:05 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: OT: Making a Fox franchise: "The A-Team"

 


Fox's movie version of the TV show "The A-Team" is another 10 year odyssey that comes to an end this weekend. The devilish Nikki Finke wrote up an amusing article (amusing if "Apes" wasn't back in Fox's crosshairs) about it's development hell. FYI for those who are interested.
 
Well, at least this Alex Young guy isn't involved with RISE OF THE APES -- or is he?!


 


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Group: pota Message: 58911 From: johnroche49 Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Making a Fox franchise: "The Ape -Team"
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Is there ANY hint yet of an actor playing an Ape character? I worry for the franchise if we don't have a 'human' Ape lead, because the Apes are what makes it work.No CGI could replicate, or, more importantly,have the acting insight to instinctively give us, the look of mischievous glee Zira gives when Taylor finally speaks.We need human actors, full stop, not Gollum, not Jar Jar not Shrek.The only CGI character I've come close to suspending disbelief for was Scooby-Doo.It sounds like Rise of the Apes has a really serious premise and Apes deserves the best actors, being Apes, to do the job right.Rant over. John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> No Alex Young.
> The interesting thing is that the producer is Peter Chernin who used to run Fox and eventually became #2 for the entire News Corp. Now he's started Chernin Entertainment and "Rise of the Apes" will be their very first movie, though they have a big TV show that will start before, "Terra Nova" starring Linda Harrison. OK, not starring Linda, it's dinosaurs and Spielberg.
> Since Chernin is a former Fox guy, one might assume it's more of the same, but maybe he'll want to make something better as a movie producer. He certainly has more clout at Fox than another producer might have.
> The producer on the Fox side is once again our old friend Ralph Winter.
>
>
> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 6:05 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: OT: Making a Fox franchise: "The A-Team"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Fox's movie version of the TV show "The A-Team" is another 10 year odyssey that comes to an end this weekend. The devilish Nikki Finke wrote up an amusing article (amusing if "Apes" wasn't back in Fox's crosshairs) about it's development hell. FYI for those who are interested.
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/11-screenwriters-later-how-alex-young-lost-control-of-the-a-team/
>
> Well, at least this Alex Young guy isn't involved with RISE OF THE APES -- or is he?!
>
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Group: pota Message: 58912 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: Dr. Smith hatred
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LOL!!!  What else was he programming that robot to do
for him?  Maybe that's why his back was always out.
 
In a message dated 6/10/2010 9:40:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
Dr. Smith was NOT a pedophile (of course not, just like Anthony Newley in DR. DOOLITTLE isn't one) -- but he sure was put in the position to be taken as one!  What he was was a small-minded, self-centered, self-destructive fey (which doesn't mean gay) twit!  No, if I were to amuse myself with wondering if Dr. Smith was gay, I'd look more toward his relationship with the robot than with any imagined encounters with Will Robinson.
 
Oh, the pain, the pain.
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Group: pota Message: 58913 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: burton hatred
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Not true.  He was a guest on Opie & Anthony
and he absolutely knew the sort of character
he was playing.  But it was an act.  He wasn't
gay or British.  He was from The Bronx, New York.
The funny thing was he, like Linus in LOST was
supposed to be killed off after a few episodes.
But he made the show click.  So they were
kept on.  Good villains give shows dynamics.
 
 
In a message dated 6/10/2010 6:22:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pellew@... writes:
Jonathan was not a pedophile.
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Group: pota Message: 58914 From: Kevin Date: 6/11/2010
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he knew that he was playing a comedic villian NOT a pedophile - the
funny ting is that his portrayal of Dr Smith was not that far removed
from his character in the BILL DANA show but no pedophile accusations
were made there. Jonathan was not aware of the 'gay/pedophile' angle
till long after the show was over.

LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Not true. He was a guest on Opie & Anthony
> and he absolutely knew the sort of character
> he was playing. But it was an act. He wasn't
> gay or British. He was from The Bronx, New York.
> The funny thing was he, like Linus in LOST was
> supposed to be killed off after a few episodes.
> But he made the show click. So they were
> kept on. Good villains give shows dynamics.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/10/2010 6:22:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> pellew@... writes:
>
> Jonathan was not a pedophile.
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 58915 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Ape City Chronicles/POTA Day Flag Contest
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It's Friday again and that means this week's new installement of APE CITY CHRONICLES is now available.  

To access click on the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm.

Also, remember that July 14th is Planet of the Apes Day. To celebrate we are having a contest to design the POTA Day flag. The deadline for submissions is June 30th. The winner will be announced on POTA Day, July 14th.

The prize for winning is the "Alpha: and "Omega" posters from the upcoming Conspiracy novel (see below). Plus everyone that enters will get a POTA Blu Ray button.

13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "ALPHA" by artist Joe Jusko

13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "OMEGA" by artist Sanjulian


Submissions can be sent right to the group or uploaded to this folder in the Files section: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTA%20Day%20Flags/

Or just email them to me and I'll upload them.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

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Group: pota Message: 58916 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
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I guess it's possible that he didn't know
his character seemed a bit . . . gay.
However, he certainly knew that the
character was an unprincipled child
stealing sissy.  You'd have to be
blind not to see that.  He did it
in nearly every show.  I myself
took a while to figure out what
the deal was with Joe Besser's
Big Sissy character, or The
Cowardly Lion by Bert Lahr.
But even as a kid I knew
something was up, even
with Cornelius.
 
 
In a message dated 6/11/2010 7:52:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pellew@... writes:
Jonathan was not aware of the 'gay/pedophile' angle
till long after the show was over.
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Group: pota Message: 58917 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/11/2010
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  "Planet of the Apes Day is February 8th. Always has been, always will be. Yup".
                                                - - - stranger in the shadows with a low-brimmed hat

From: jamesa1102
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 5:51 AM
Subject: [pota] Ape City Chronicles/POTA Day Flag Contest

 

It's Friday again and that means this week's new installement of APE CITY CHRONICLES is now available.  

To access click on the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/files/ ACC.htm.

Also, remember that July 14th is Planet of the Apes Day. To celebrate we are having a contest to design the POTA Day flag. The deadline for submissions is June 30th. The winner will be announced on POTA Day, July 14th.

The prize for winning is the "Alpha: and "Omega" posters from the upcoming Conspiracy novel (see below). Plus everyone that enters will get a POTA Blu Ray button.

13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "ALPHA" by artist Joe Jusko

13"x19" Glossy cardstock print entitled "OMEGA" by artist Sanjulian


Submissions can be sent right to the group or uploaded to this folder in the Files section: http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/files/ POTA%20Day% 20Flags/

Or just email them to me and I'll upload them.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

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Group: pota Message: 58918 From: William Burge Date: 6/11/2010
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dear group, found some neat things on planet on ebay. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 58919 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: OT: Making a Fox franchise: "The Ape -Team"
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In a message dated 6/11/2010 4:36:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnroche49@... writes:
It sounds like Rise of the Apes has a really serious premise and Apes deserves the best actors, being Apes, to do the job right.Rant over. John, Scrolls
I'll submit the tail end of this Karate Kid review as my reply.
 
 

And here are five (What! Only FIVE?!!!) stinkers that should never have dared to compete with the genius of the original version:

  1. Psycho: Gus van Sant did a shot-by-shot homage to the original and one has to wonder why. Anne Heche vs. Janet Leigh? Vince Vaughn vs. Tony Perkins? Puh-leeze!
  2. Planet of the Apes: You know the look of horror that crosses Charlton Heston's face at the end of the original when he realizes he's traveled in time to Earth's future? No doubt that look was on the face of every movie-goer who had to endure Marky Mark Walhberg in the remake.
  3. Godzilla: It would be hard to be worse than the extremely campy original, but the 1998 remake manages to make one long for cheesy special effects and out of sync dubbed dialogue.
  4. The Longest Yard: At first the pairing of Adam Sandler and Chris Rock seems to be brilliant, but despite the pairing of two top comic there isn't a single funny or fun moment in this updated version of the 1974 movie which starred Burt Reynolds.
  5. Poseidon: While the 2006 remake of 1972's The Poseidon Adventure may have had the advantage of three decades of advances in film special effects, it lacked the heart and ability to generate audience empathy of the original.

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Group: pota Message: 58920 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
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Sure it does. That storm causes
time distortions.  The Ship crashed
a couple thousand years before Leo's
pod did.  Why couldn't Thade's pod
have left later and landed earlier?
 
In a message dated 6/8/2010 7:26:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, robert.mansell@... writes:
Ok
 
Leo went forward in the anomoly but that doesn't explain how Thade went backwards... .
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Group: pota Message: 58921 From: Kevin Date: 6/11/2010
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then I guess I was a little niave - never saw it as a kid and still
don't see it now though I can see a distinct difference in film between
childish adults and pedophiles.

LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I guess it's possible that he didn't know
> his character seemed a bit . . . gay.
> However, he certainly knew that the
> character was an unprincipled child
> stealing sissy. You'd have to be
> blind not to see that. He did it
> in nearly every show. I myself
> took a while to figure out what
> the deal was with Joe Besser's
> Big Sissy character, or The
> Cowardly Lion by Bert Lahr.
> But even as a kid I knew
> something was up, even
> with Cornelius.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/11/2010 7:52:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> pellew@... writes:
>
> Jonathan was not aware of the 'gay/pedophile' angle
> till long after the show was over.
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 58922 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: POTA 2001 - Explain the ending..
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HE didn't need a sunken pod.
Everything on the old ship seemed
to work fine.  Sheems like they had
more than 2 pods.  And that chimp
was a better pilot than Marky Mark.
 
In a message dated 6/8/2010 12:53:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, skintricks@... writes:
Am I the ONLY one that liked the ending?  The speculations were that Thade escaped in the sunken pod and went back to earth's past and changed everything. 
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Group: pota Message: 58923 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: Ape City Chronicles/POTA Day Flag Contest
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POTA Day is meant to celebrate the entire franchise not just the first film. February 8th will always be reserved to do that.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> "Planet of the Apes Day is February 8th. Always has been, always will be. Yup".
> - - - stranger in the shadows with a low-brimmed hat
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 58924 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Dr. Smith Thread (OT)
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OK This is the last post on this topic that will be approved. This has nothing to do with POTA and is a rather distasteful topic as well. If you two wish to continue your discussion on this, please take it offline. Thanks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kevin <pellew@...> wrote:
>
> then I guess I was a little niave - never saw it as a kid and still
> don't see it now though I can see a distinct difference in film between
> childish adults and pedophiles.
>
> LordTZer0@... wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I guess it's possible that he didn't know
> > his character seemed a bit . . . gay.
> > However, he certainly knew that the
> > character was an unprincipled child
> > stealing sissy. You'd have to be
> > blind not to see that. He did it
> > in nearly every show. I myself
> > took a while to figure out what
> > the deal was with Joe Besser's
> > Big Sissy character, or The
> > Cowardly Lion by Bert Lahr.
> > But even as a kid I knew
> > something was up, even
> > with Cornelius.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 6/11/2010 7:52:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > pellew@... writes:
> >
> > Jonathan was not aware of the 'gay/pedophile' angle
> > till long after the show was over.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Group: pota Message: 58925 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Ted Post
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I watched HANG 'EM HIGH, starring Clint Eastwood, last night. When
it started, I thought that it felt a whole lot like BENEATH THE PLANET
OF THE APES in the way it was shot. I was not too surprised to see a
few minutes later that it was directed by Ted Post (I'd never seen the
movie before and didn't know that Post directed it).

I thought it was interesting to see that Post's directorial style was
similar enough in both that I could tell it without knowing ahead of
time that he directed HANG 'EM HIGH.

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 58926 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Jess & Claudia
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Just FYI, Claudia Christian (of BABYLON 5 fame) posted the photo of
her with Jess and her boys on her (Claudia's) Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4425345&id=56489788580

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 58927 From: James Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert for: "planet of the apes"

The One that Started it All.. « Evil Meatball vs. Cat!
By meatball
It's not so much that Larami decided to make a Planet of the Apes flashlight. Because, like so many cheap rack toys, the company would stamp the name of whatever license they had acquired on whatever toys they happened to make. ...
Evil Meatball vs. Cat! - http://evilmeatballvscat.com/

AD NAUSEAM: Damn Dirty Apes
By Matt Wieringo
I had listened to an interview between him, Gabriel Hardman and John Siuntres that was ostensibly about AGENTS OF ATLAS but which degenerated into a great discussion of the 1960's-1970's PLANET OF THE APES film series. ...
AD NAUSEAM - http://mafus.blogspot.com/

Secure Immaturity » Planet of the Apes Week: Beneath the Planet of ...
By will
So, one has to assume, the biggest jump from quality to shit-in-a-box belongs to the opening salvo of apedom that is Planet of the Apes, in 1968, a frickin' classic, and it's direct sequel, 1970's Beneath the Planet of the Apes, ...
Secure Immaturity - http://secureimmaturity.com/

Have you seen him?: New Inking- Planet of the Apes
By Stevie Caballero
New Inking- Planet of the Apes. This new piece of art will be going in my upcoming group art show called "Creature Features" featuring artists; Jason 3 sheets, Mr. WIM, Christine Benjamin and SID Enck Jr. at DiMODA Hair Salon on July ...
Have you seen him? - http://steviecaballero.blogspot.com/

The Sci-Fi Lounge: Planet of the Apes
By Ray Virzi
In 1968, Planet of the Apes was such a film. Although it had the usual action, adventure, and even romance you'd expect from a blockbuster, it also contained a heavy dose of philosophy about the nature of man, God, and evolution, ...
The Sci-Fi Lounge - http://scifilounge.blogspot.com/

 

Planet of the Apes on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Planet of the Apes by Mark.Weaver. Reimagined as a 60s spy movie. To take full advantage of Flickr, you should use a JavaScript-enabled browser and ...
www.flickr.com/photos/markweaver/4686179587/

 

Secure Immaturity » Planet of the Apes Week: Conquest of the ...
By will
.I just got done watching Conquest of the Planet of the Apes and I feel ashamed of myself. But for all you apes out there. . .you shouldn't feel much better. Conquest of the Planet of the Apes is a great film, no doubt, but it kind of ...
Secure Immaturity - http://secureimmaturity.com/

 

Michael T. Bhatty's Blog: Movies: The ape masks
By Michael T. Bhatty
When I started "making movies" me and my friends were about 12 years old and - as most others of our age, completely thrilled by the TV shows and movies of our time, like Star Wars, Star Trek Classic, Planet of Apes etc. ...
Michael T. Bhatty's Blog - http://michael-bhatty.blogspot.com/

 

AD NAUSEAM: Damn Dirty Apes
By Matt Wieringo
I had listened to an interview between him, Gabriel Hardman and John Siuntres that was ostensibly about AGENTS OF ATLAS but which degenerated into a great discussion of the 1960's-1970's PLANET OF THE APES film series. ...
AD NAUSEAM - http://mafus.blogspot.com/

 

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Group: pota Message: 58928 From: jamesa1102 Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Re: planet items
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Thanks William!


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> dear group, found some neat things on planet on ebay. from william burge
>

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Group: pota Message: 58929 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: OT: not so hot summer for Fox
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 On the heels of last week's poor showing for "Marmaduke", Fox's "The A-Team" is having to settle for the B-list, with an expected $27 million for the weekend. The other '80's reboot of the week, "The Karate Kid", is expecting $ 52 + million. Fox's Tom Cruise movie "Knight and Day" (co-written by former "Caesar" director Scott Frank) is showing a lack of interest in prerelease polls and is expected not to do so well (and the title won't help). That might leave Fox's sci-fi "Predators" to save the summer for them next month. How all this effects "Rise of the Apes", shooting this summer, remains to be seen. More pressure? Maybe inspiring them to do something different, riskier? Sci-fi was Fox's bread and butter this year with "Avatar".
 So far the summer has been considered a disappointment at the box office, with audiences seeming to give it a big yawn. The movie that is expected to be a smash (and has been getting great reviews) is Pixar's "Toy Story 3".  As it turns out, Pixar's movie for next year, "Cars 2", goes head to head with "Rise of the Apes". I'm just saying.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 58930 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Re: Ted Post
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I watched HANG 'EM HIGH, starring Clint Eastwood, last night. When
it started, I thought that it felt a whole lot like BENEATH THE PLANET
OF THE APES in the way it was shot. I was not too surprised to see a
few minutes later that it was directed by Ted Post (I'd never seen the
movie before and didn't know that Post directed it).

I thought it was interesting to see that Post's directorial style was
similar enough in both that I could tell it without knowing ahead of
time that he directed HANG 'EM HIGH.

Hunter


Good god, I thought this post was going to say Ted Post had died!  Phew!
 
Anyway, I'm shocked, Hunter.  At your age not to know this!  Have you been living in a bubble!
 
Seriously, the POTA movies are what made me a film buff because I became interested in what the other credits of the cast and crew were, and then it just grew and grew from there.  Used to have to hunt for film reference books (I've got a collection), but now it's so easy just going to IMDB.
 
Just look up Ted Post at IMDB, Hunter, and check out his credits -- AND EDUCATED YOURSELF!!!  Have you no intellectual curiosity!
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Group: pota Message: 58931 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/12/2010
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I'm wondering if Hollywood even knows how to pull off a truly good Summer/Tent Pole movie anymore.  Everything seems so trite now -- or is it just me getting old?
 
By the way, Veetus.... Did you say Ralph Winter is producing RISE?  If so, my good vibe is turning bad.  I don't think Winter knows how to even produce a good bowel movement much less a movie.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
Sent: Sat, Jun 12, 2010 8:27 am
Subject: [pota] OT: not so hot summer for Fox

 
 On the heels of last week's poor showing for "Marmaduke", Fox's "The A-Team" is having to settle for the B-list, with an expected $27 million for the weekend. The other '80's reboot of the week, "The Karate Kid", is expecting $ 52 + million. Fox's Tom Cruise movie "Knight and Day" (co-written by former "Caesar" director Scott Frank) is showing a lack of interest in prerelease polls and is expected not to do so well (and the title won't help). That might leave Fox's sci-fi "Predators" to save the summer for them next month. How all this effects "Rise of the Apes", shooting this summer, remains to be seen. More pressure? Maybe inspiring them to do something different, riskier? Sci-fi was Fox's bread and butter this year with "Avatar".
 So far the summer has been considered a disappointment at the box office, with audiences seeming to give it a big yawn. The movie that is expected to be a smash (and has been getting great reviews) is Pixar's "Toy Story 3".  As it turns out, Pixar's movie for next year, "Cars 2", goes head to head with "Rise of the Apes". I'm just saying.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 58932 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Re: OT: not so hot summer for Fox
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In the words of Dr. Otto Hasslein, "Negative Negative Negative!" :o( 
Be little bit more positive, Jeff. Think happy thoughts. :o)
 
Al
 


From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 8:27:05 AM
Subject: [pota] OT: not so hot summer for Fox

 

 On the heels of last week's poor showing for "Marmaduke", Fox's "The A-Team" is having to settle for the B-list, with an expected $27 million for the weekend. The other '80's reboot of the week, "The Karate Kid", is expecting $ 52 + million. Fox's Tom Cruise movie "Knight and Day" (co-written by former "Caesar" director Scott Frank) is showing a lack of interest in prerelease polls and is expected not to do so well (and the title won't help). That might leave Fox's sci-fi "Predators" to save the summer for them next month. How all this effects "Rise of the Apes", shooting this summer, remains to be seen. More pressure? Maybe inspiring them to do something different, riskier? Sci-fi was Fox's bread and butter this year with "Avatar".
 So far the summer has been considered a disappointment at the box office, with audiences seeming to give it a big yawn. The movie that is expected to be a smash (and has been getting great reviews) is Pixar's "Toy Story 3".  As it turns out, Pixar's movie for next year, "Cars 2", goes head to head with "Rise of the Apes". I'm just saying.
 
 http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/karate-kid-reboot-kicking-a-team-butt/
 

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Group: pota Message: 58933 From: mcreek25@aol.com Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Re: OT: not so hot summer for Fox
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My wife and I saw POTA and Escape at the Egyptian theater this year and that is the only time we have been to the movies in 2010.  Pretty sad considering how much we love movies and going to the movies.  It has been a very disappointing year.
 
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com
sgtsays.blogspot.com
hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
 
In a message dated 6/12/2010 5:34:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
So far the summer has been considered a disappointment at the box office, with audiences seeming to give it a big yawn.
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Group: pota Message: 58934 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 6/12/2010
Subject: Re: Ted Post
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> Anyway, I'm shocked, Hunter. At your age not to know this! Have
> you been living in a bubble!

What can I say? I was raised in a house with my mom and two sisters.
I never saw any of the Clint Eastwood movies until I was in college,
and then I only saw a couple. I've been remedying that the past few
weeks, with lots of great movies: the Dirty Harry movies, PALE RIDER,
UNFORGIVEN, THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES, HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER, HANG 'EM
HIGH, and GRAN TORINO. More on the horizon....

> Just look up Ted Post at IMDB, Hunter, and check out his credits --
> AND EDUCATED YOURSELF!!! Have you no intellectual curiosity!

Plenty, but for some reason, it never has really extended to the Apes
directors. Not sure why....

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