On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Blam <blamventurer@...> wrote:

Hey
It seems like forever to me and you both, Rory. Having been a fan that was frustrated waiting for a product to be released several times, I feel your pain. As the guy making the thing, I now understand where all the delays come form.

Aside from a few brutal personal crisis I have had to endure over the past two years, which interfered with my writing schedule - putting together a group of artists of the caliber of the ones working on this project was no small task - and in many cases, I have had to wait for them to find holes in their respective schedules in order to be a part of the project in the first place. Even now, not all of them have turned in their finished pieces yet - but the work in progress is fantastic!

On top of that, I have been (and still am) taking steps to make sure this book gets the widespread distribution it deserves, rather than it becoming a small footnote in the Apes saga hidden in the back of 1 in every 5 comic shops.

We are doing our best to make the release be this Holiday season (November), but may miss and have to shoot for Spring of 2011 (March)- but that's the latest we are looking at. I'm hoping the turn around on the second book will be much quicker, and have that one out within a year from Conspiracy's release.

The delays suck, there is no question of that. All I can do is work my hardest to make sure the book is worth the wait...
Drew

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> So, there was a conspiracy that created the planet of the apes? Well.... why not?
>
> When is this novel coming out? Seems like it's taking forever.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:40 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

Drew what happened to those fans who snoozed regarding the Cornelius card... Do they lose?

Jess.

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Blam <blamventurer@...> wrote:

Hey
It seems like forever to me and you both, Rory. Having been a fan that was frustrated waiting for a product to be released several times, I feel your pain. As the guy making the thing, I now understand where all the delays come form.

Aside from a few brutal personal crisis I have had to endure over the past two years, which interfered with my writing schedule - putting together a group of artists of the caliber of the ones working on this project was no small task - and in many cases, I have had to wait for them to find holes in their respective schedules in order to be a part of the project in the first place. Even now, not all of them have turned in their finished pieces yet - but the work in progress is fantastic!

On top of that, I have been (and still am) taking steps to make sure this book gets the widespread distribution it deserves, rather than it becoming a small footnote in the Apes saga hidden in the back of 1 in every 5 comic shops.

We are doing our best to make the release be this Holiday season (November), but may miss and have to shoot for Spring of 2011 (March)- but that's the latest we are looking at. I'm hoping the turn around on the second book will be much quicker, and have that one out within a year from Conspiracy's release.

The delays suck, there is no question of that. All I can do is work my hardest to make sure the book is worth the wait...
Drew

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> So, there was a conspiracy that created the planet of the apes? Well.... why not?
>
> When is this novel coming out? Seems like it's taking forever.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> 40 gun salute in Ape City!!! YESSSS!!!!
>
>
> Jess
>
> PS--the Cornelius cards are really fabulous, and I still wear my dogtag (the
> one that says Planet of the Apes) on occasion. :)
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Blam <blamventurer@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey All
> >
> > Hope you are all enjoying your Cornelius cards, please let me know if
> > someone is missing something. I am very sorry they took so long to get in,
> > but unfortunately overseas printers don't always have the fans/publishers
> > best interests at heart - in the end they were printed domestically in the
> > USA.
> >
> > Also, those who ordered the complete package in early 2010 and waited until
> > now to receive everything, I have thrown in a little special something - an
> > as of yet unannounced print that we will be making available for sale in the
> > next couple of weeks. What is the art for this print? Here is a hint:
> > Jessica will be happy.
> >
> > In regards to the title: this isn't the first time I have heard this query.
> > Editor Rich Handley and myself went back and forth in a debate about this a
> > while ago, and we came to the following conclusion: The book is about the
> > conspiracy that defined the Planet of the Apes, not just a conspiracy that
> > happens there.
> >
> > I hope that clears things up.
> >
> > Yours-
> > Drew
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com>, Haristas@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm a little confused about this thing, the upcoming novel that is. The
> > title on this card is "Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes." Shouldn't that
> > be "Conspiracy ON the Planet of the Apes"?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Drew,
>
> When the Burton movie was in production FOX did their best to put an embargo on anything to do with Classic 60's/70's APES. With RISE about to go into production has there been any whiff of potential problems for 'Conspiracy'.
>
> Dave B
>

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/313496/june-23-2010/yahweh-or-no-way---the-blues-brothers---glenn-beck

Submissions can be sent right to the group or uploaded to this folder in the Files section: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTA%20Day%20Flags/

Or just email them to me and I'll upload them.

> he calls it "a new origin story to the original timeline"; "a loose prequel"; "I'd say it's down the middle between a prequel to the 1968 film and a reboot".
> As I predicted!

Very cool! Thanks Al!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> What do you get when you cross Queen with POTA?
>
> See for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUk84bKUDI0
>
> Al
>

As part of it's summer film series, the Coney Island Museum will be showing the original Planet of the Apes on Saturday, July 10th at 8:30PM. It's almost like they scheduled it to coincide with POTA day! http://www.coneyisland.com/films..html"

If anyone from the NYC area is interested in attending, please contact me offline. Thanks.

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On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:05 AM, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:

[Attachment(s) from William Burge included below]

dear group, found some photos from hestons films that came out the same year planet was released the two films are counterpoint and will penny . enjoy from william burge ps the last photo is heston signing his first book called the actors life 1978.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "joey" <job1866@...> wrote:
>
> I noticed it seems some Medicom Planet of the Apes figures seem to look way better than others. What I mean is I saw a General Ursus Medicom figure that looked spectacular than another General Ursus Medicom figure that looked like crap, I think because of the paint job looking too dark. Am I going crazy or are some of the Medicom Apes figs different than others even though they are the same figure. Is there a screw up somewhere??
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "DAVID" <hellboygbo@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Joey,
>
> I have noticed differences in the figures as well and wide variations in the quality of some. I've also wondered why people seek out some of the carded Mediacom figures at $35-$40 a pop when the Hasbro Selects are actually better!?? I wanted a Caesar-so I went with it because that was all I could find at the time and was pleased- but My Mediacom Gorilla soldier isn't as detailed or as nice as the Hasbro and I paid more for the Mediacom figure- A LOT more-won't do it again. Strange but true. Course, we all wish we could have a couple of squads of Hot Toys or Sideshow-but...budgets! Happy Hunting (for figures...not humans! ;) )
>

Happy Anniversary Conquest!

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Sir. :o)
>
> Al
>

Here's the NY Times review of the film from 38 years ago:

'Conquest of Planet of Apes' Opens

By all rights, the series squeezed from that grand sci-fi thriller, "Planet of the Apes," should he shedding hair all over the place by now. Number Four, "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes," arrived yesterday. It's not bad, as apes and 20th Century-Fox go, at least hand in hand.

There's the plot, with a talking chimpanzee befriended by a circus owner and finally leading a swarm of enslaved hairy-clad pals in revolt in a futuristic world of icy-veined humans. The series' writer, Paul Dehn, nimbly continues the story from the predecessor, weaving in just enough crisp philosophizing on both sides to command attention.

Furthermore, J. Lee Thompson's direction furiously propels the action in a compact chromium-and-glass setting—and wait till you see that last battle royal. Don Murray, Hari Rhodes and Ricardo Montalban do well on the erring human side. But yesterday's audience at the New Embassy cheered the perservering apes and so did I. At 'em, boys!

Can an ape look foxy? Roddy McDowall, who steals the picture as their articulate leader, certainly does, with those piercing eyes blinking through a shaggy hide. Anyway, yesterday the apes conquered the planet. Now let's have a sequel called "Take It Back."

CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES, directed by J. Lee Thompson; screenplay by Paul Dehn; produced by Arthur P. Jacobs and presented by 20th Century-Fox. At the New Embassy Theater, Broadway and 46th Street, the Juliet 2 Theater, Third Avenue and 83d Street, and the Kips Bay Theater, Second Avenue and 31st street. Running time: 91 minutes. This film is rated PG.)
Caesar . . . . . Roddy McDowall
Breck . . . . . Don Murray
Lisa . . . . . Natalie Trundy
MacDonald . . . . . Harl Rhodes
Armando . . . . . Ricardo Montalban

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?_r=2&res=9B04E6DA1F3EE63BBC4850DFB0668389669EDE&pagewanted=print

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On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:

Have a good one Alex!!

Tim

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:25 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

RISE OF THE APES What it'll be?

I'm betting this is a loose prequel to the original 1968 film. This is how it would work: the original APES series isn't a "timeloop" as most fans believe. There was an "original timeline" that created the world that Charlton Heston crashed landed in and that contained the intelligent chimpanzees, Cornelius and Zira. The apes went back in time in the third sequel, but in doing so they altered the original timeline and changed the future (the "infinite number of lanes" view of time the series talks about). As such, there's an original timeline (some two thousand years) in the "Planet of the Apes" universe that's completely unexplored in the original 5-film series, leaving 20th Century Fox free to reboot the series and go anywhere with it -- as long as it eventually leads to the world first viewed in the 1968 film -- or something close to it. "Rise of the Apes" will also answer one of the most puzzling questions the original series NEVER touched upon -- just how did the apes evolve so quickly? That unanswered question is what makes the last three films in the original series now seem more than a little ridiculous. I only hope this new film has a truly intelligent script (which seems to be a very loose adaptation of Chapter 34 of Pierre Boulle's original novel), and I for one am looking forward to it.

If my bet is right and this is what the new film turns out to be, will it cause any here to go ape and zealously cling to your original APES series time loopiness, or will you except a new view of things?

-- Rory

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On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:49 PM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

So, if the movie turns out excellently, you'll have no problem if it kind of rewrites the original series? You would except this from Fox?

This brings up something else I was thinking about, but I have to go right now, so it'll have to wait.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Jun 29, 2010 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Trying to get a RISE out of you.

Depends on if the film is any good.

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> The Peter Jackson connection continues. Or more specifically, the
> "King Kong" connection. "Rise of the Apes" has the same digital FX
> company (Weta), the same cinematographer, and now the same performer
> who played Kong (and "Lord of the Rings' " Gollum) will play Caesar.
> Andy Serkis has been announced. It's perfect. The original Caesar
> worked in the circus and now Serkis will work on Caesar. Ouch!

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:43 PM, <PofTAfan@...> wrote:

Have a very happy apey birthday, Alex.

-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tue, Jun 29, 2010 11:42 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Happy Birthday Al and "Conquest"!

Apey Birthday, Alex!

Jess.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:

Have a good one Alex!!

Tim

--
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Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
www.brokensea.net
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://www.brokensea.com and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes at
http://www.brokensea.com and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://www.brokensea.com and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://brokensea.com/conan/

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I noticed that not only is Peter Jackson's Weta Digital FX company doing "Rise of the Apes" but Andrew Lesnie is the director of photography (cinematographer). He's photographed all of Jackson's films this decade, including the "Lord of the Rings" (he won an Oscar for the first one) and "King Kong". He's got a lot of experience working with Weta and merging live-action with CG. Weta does FX for other filmmakers (including many Fox sci-fi movies) but Lesnie isn't usually part of the bargain since he's been busy with Jackson. Though he did do the Will Smith "I Am Legend" and this weekend's "The Last Airbender". In the '90's he did the famed "Babe" pig movies. Probably after "Apes" he will move on to the anticipated "Hobbit" movies if it's true that Jackson is leaning toward directing them.
> It still remains to be seen if these CG apes are going to work but I can't knock who they've enlisted to do it. Director Rupert Wyatt is certainly being thrown in the deep end of the pool, going from "The Escapist" to this.
>
> Lesnie: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0504226/
>

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>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The cinematographer still does the same thing; evoke a mood, design a color scheme, etc. CG probably makes the job even more difficult. Like the actors he has to imagine what doesn't exist yet. CG is just another tool.
>
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:35 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Peter Jackson's d.p. doing "Apes"
>
>
>
> Well, it's nice to know that the concept of a 'cinematographer' still exists in CGI- world, although it's difficult to see what role that encompasses with computer graphics.The more I read about this movie, the more it sounds like Planet of the Humans, which is not what this particular chimp signed up for.John, Scrolls.
>