>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > No but it is available from Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/25rtjpk
> > <http://tinyurl.com/25rtjpk>
> >
> >
>
> Thanks for letting me know where to find this book.
>

Well it anyone is interested in seeing the art that did run, it is available in the Marvel Archive: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Marvel/MarvelP1.htm

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Woodrow <patrick.woodrow@...> wrote:
>
> It would be really interesting to see the art from that discarded first print run, John. I wonder if anyone in this group has any contact with RT. The boxer shorts the astronauts are wearing from the bathing scene on look suspiciously like an alteration as well, since the "artfully" placed arms, foliage and shadows suggest that the characters weren't originally drawn wearing anything at all.
>   
> Brown Watson did well to secure Bolton's talents for the 1975 annual. The hunt scene with the Chuck likeness is a great double spread. Interestingly, Dez Skinn's blog describes the TV series comic strips from the same annual as American reprints; although they certainly resemble the Gold Key style, Skinn's comments are the only reference I've come across that any US company had plans to publish strips from the TV show.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Pawfan" <teddypawpad@...> wrote:
>
>
> Also, how is Timeline of the Planet of the Apes....A recommendation?
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I think if the new film begets a franchise a blu-ray of the show (maybe even the cartoon) is a possibility. But I don't know if some of the makeup could survive it. They could advertise it as starring Roddy McDowall and "that Cialis guy".
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Pawfan" <teddypawpad@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Pawfan" <teddypawpad@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > No but it is available from Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/25rtjpk
> > > <http://tinyurl.com/25rtjpk>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for letting me know where to find this book.
> >
>
> Also, how is Timeline of the Planet of the Apes....A recommendation?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Well it anyone is interested in seeing the art that did run, it is
> available in the Marvel Archive:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Marvel/MarvelP1.ht\
> m
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Marvel/MarvelP1.h\
> tm>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Woodrow <patrick.woodrow@>
> wrote:
> >
> > It would be really interesting to see the art from thatÂ
> discarded first print run, John. I wonder if anyone in this groupÂ
> has any contact with RT. The boxer shorts the astronauts are wearingÂ
> from the bathing scene on look suspiciously like an alteration
> as well, since the "artfully" placed arms, foliage and shadows suggest
> that the characters weren't originally drawn wearing anything at
> all.
> > Â Â
> > Brown Watson did well to secure Bolton's talents for the 1975 annual.
> The hunt scene with the Chuck likeness is a great double spread.
> Interestingly, Dez Skinn's blog describes the TV series comic strips
> from the same annual as American reprints; although they certainly
> resemble the Gold Key style, Skinn's comments are the only reference
> I've come across that any US company had plans to publish strips
> from the TV show.
> >
>

Congrats Tim! Where did you win it?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Finally got an original Animation Cel from RETURN! I was holding out for one
> with some apes on it but I thought this was cool of Bill and Jeff....Can't
> believe I won it!
>
> Tim
>

Very cool William! I love the Mego poster.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> dear group, i found a couple of different ape items enjoy from william burge
>

It all depends on sales. FOX has released the TV series twice on DVD. If the sales of those two releases justify a Blu-Ray release, then they'll do it.

The sales of the POTA film Blu-Rays will probably impact as well. How well did the BRs for films do versus DVD releases in 2001 and 2006?

These are all factors that will determine if it is cost effective to release the TV show on Blu-Ray.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I think the TV Series deserves a proper release.The dvd set was pretty much vanilla and when you think they interviewed Booth for the box set but didn't use him, it makes me frustrated that the TV Series doesn't get the treatment it deserves.Not sure Cialis guy would want to be involved---we'd better call that a soft booking, in the hopes of firming up later.John,Scrolls.
>

>
> The Timeline book is a mighty chronicle, whilst the Lexicon is a mighty reference.Both are absolute necessities on any Ape fan's shelf, in my humble opinion.These books are so weighty, so good, it's a bit like Shakespeare----it's shatteringly humbling to appreciate that they are the work of one man. John, Scrolls.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> ebay.....got it for 62 bucks....they usually go for much more than that...
> the last ones i saw on there were of the screeching moster bird and I'd rather
> have a plank in my eye than have that on my wall..! would love to get one of
> zira and Cornelius or a background shot of Ape City......
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> It all depends on sales. FOX has released the TV series twice on DVD. If
> the sales of those two releases justify a Blu-Ray release, then they'll
> do it.
>
> The sales of the POTA film Blu-Rays will probably impact as well. How
> well did the BRs for films do versus DVD releases in 2001 and 2006?
>
> These are all factors that will determine if it is cost effective to
> release the TV show on Blu-Ray.
>

Good news! This episode is now available to view online: http://www.syfy.com/rewind/hollywoodtreasure/1263321/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> On Dec. 1st the Sy Fy channel series "Hollywood Treasures" had an episode that included a trip to Ed Gogin's house to check out his POTA collection. He started by wanting one costume of every ape. He had a small but sweet collection of costumes. They looked at his gorilla costume, which included ammo belt, club and boots. The host said it's rare to see ape costumes complete and original and speculated such a costume could bring $20,000 - $30,000 now, whereas they used to go for $1,000. They also looked at his orangutan costume, which had the glyphs and orang boots. He also had some pullover masks (presumably from the movies). The host estimated his clubs could go for $ 5,000 each, an ape rifle for $5,000 - $10,000 because "they just don't exist (anymore)". Gogin's collection was estimated at $ 100,000.
> In his yard he had the Lawgiver statue that was owned by Arthur Jacobs and then his widow Natalie until the late '90's. He bought it from her. A copy was made for Jacobs' pal Sammy Davis Jr. but this was the only full-sized Lawgiver used on screen. The point of the show is to find stuff and auction it (for the famous "Profiles in History" auctions). The host said getting the Lawgiver and putting it on the cover of the auction catalog was a holy grail. He estimated the Lawgiver at $100,000 - $200,000. Gogin had outbid Fox 12 years ago, who wanted to put it in their archive. Gogin had a uncomfortable look on his face as he heard how much this stuff could go for, I guess because his wife is pressuring him to sell, but he opted not to. So that's where the Lawgiver stayed (Orange County, CA.).
> The host said, "Items from POTA are highly collected. Everything from that movie sells for really good prices". Of course, he added the new movie is making the items even more "hot".
>
> http://www.syfy.com/hollywoodtreasure/episodes.php?seasonid=1&episodeid=110&pageid=1
>

I remember seeing them in either November or December of '74. The show was still on but it had been canceled by then.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Does anybody recall WHEN they first saw the tv series novels---did they actually appear before the series was cancelled? John, Scrolls.
>

> Does anybody recall WHEN they first saw the tv series novels---did they
> actually appear before the series was cancelled?

> Plus ...I don't trust that host guy....he's a little slimy to
> me......he;s in it
> just for the money.....

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> My copy of "Man the Fugitive" says it was first published in 1974, so maybe
> at the tail end of the series' run?... The next two were published in ' 75
> and I think the fourth in ' 76... ***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/11/2011 8:26:28 AM Central Standard Time,
> johnroche49@... writes:
>
>
> > Does anybody recall WHEN they first saw the tv series novels---did they
> > actually appear before the series was cancelled?
>
> </HTML>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe this guy will say things like, "I want a "Rise of the Apes" trailer, pronto" or "Why are we having graphic arts students doing our jobs for us? I want a "Rise of the Apes" poster, pronto".
> Or maybe even, "Why are we calling it "Rise of the Apes"? It's POTA, isn't it? I want a new title, pronto".
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/exclusive-fox-hires-oren-aviv-as-chief-film-marketing-officer/
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Woodrow <patrick.woodrow@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> If I recall correctly, apart from a few splashes of colour around their hips in some panels, the astronauts also went commando in the US "Adventures" colour reprints from which the later UK reprints were sourced. I don't know whether the shorts were added in the original run for censorship reasons or continuity; after all, Zira's line about "strange clothes" in the second issue doesn't make much sense unless Taylor was wearing something at the point of capture. But enough about naked astronauts...
> Â
> Here's Earl Norem's rough for the cover of #28 of the US mag. For anyone who's interested, I nabbed it from www.comicartfans.com which also has a number of scans of original interior art pages.
> Â
>
>

> I've got a Battle page that shows Aldo wearing an Urko helmet--which is
> how it appears in the UK reprint

> The last one is hard to find. It was barely published because the show
> was cancelled.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> *** By chance do you know what issue number this is in? ***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/12/2011 8:14:15 AM Central Standard Time,
> johnroche49@... writes:
>
>
> > I've got a Battle page that shows Aldo wearing an Urko helmet--which is
> > how it appears in the UK reprint
>
> </HTML>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> *** The show was cancelled when the second and third books were published,
> so why aren't they hard to find? ;) ***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/12/2011 10:35:28 AM Central Standard Time,
> veetus@... writes:
>
>
> > The last one is hard to find. It was barely published because the show
> > was cancelled.
> >
>
> </HTML>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
> This Friday, Jamie Harris plays Popeye in "The Green Hornet" (huh? what?). But soon he plays Roy in "Rise of the Apes". He talks about the latter in this interview here. Sounds like the apes are pretty violent. But he says, "the script is an amazing story. It's told very differently. It's a very humane feel to it".
>
> http://movies.about.com/od/riseoftheapes/a/Rise-Apes-Jamie-Harris-Interview.htm
>
>
> His character is named Roy? Why didn't they just add another R to that, like between the O and Y?
>
> No wait a minute, this character gets attacked by 300 apes?!!! Better they called him Krueger.
>

Is this what you're talking about?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff K." <veetus@...>
Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:09 am
Subject: Re: [pota] tv show paperbacks

> Sometimes they published books like that in hardcover for book
> clubs.
>
>
> From: Terry Hoknes
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 2:19 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] tv show paperbacks
>
>
>
> #4 Lord of the apes is technically not the rarest of the paperbacks\
> though truly it is very hard to find
>
> man the fugitive #1 was also printed in a hard cover book version
> i have only ever owned 1 of those
> and it never turns up
> not sure why they made a hardcover edition
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Is this what you're talking about?
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > The original US page will be in #27 (I'm pretty sure, but it just
> might be #28).It's a distance shot of Aldo and cronies on horseback on a
> hill/cliff, watching the action. The UK reprint, with helmet, will be
> somewhere after #231 of Mighty World of Marvel, after it merged with
> Apes---probably 233 or 234---I haven't got them to hand just now
> (translation, my pit is a mess).John.
> >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> But book club editions are printed in large runs. Those are the books
> that are usually the easiest to find. So I doubt that this hardcover
> that Terry mentions is a book club edition.
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff K." <veetus@...>
> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:09 am
> Subject: Re: [pota] tv show paperbacks
>
> > Sometimes they published books like that in hardcover for book
> > clubs.
> >
> >
> > From: Terry Hoknes
> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 2:19 AM
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] tv show paperbacks
> >
> >
> >
> > #4 Lord of the apes is technically not the rarest of the paperbacks\
> > though truly it is very hard to find
> >
> > man the fugitive #1 was also printed in a hard cover book version
> > i have only ever owned 1 of those
> > and it never turns up
> > not sure why they made a hardcover edition
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

In terms of TV airings, CBS ran the Planet, Beneath and Escape in the fall of 1973. The 'Go Ape' festival was in June of 1974 with the first issue of Marvel's magazine coming out at the same time. The TV series was in the fall of 1974 with Conquest airing on TV in November. Unfortunately the TV series was canceled soon after that. Battle aired on TV on January 17th of '75 but it was shoved into a 90 minute time slot force many cuts in the film.

While '73 through '74 was a great time to be a POTA fan the decline really started in 1975. While the Marvel magazine did publish until the end of 1976, it became thinner and thinner over time going from 84 pages to only 50.

The franchise was really dead by the beginning of 1977 and with the release of Star Wars in May of that year it was forgotten by FOX and most fans.

But that was then, it is now 2011 and we have a new film to look forward to this summer that will hopefully revive the franchise for a new generation.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I have no idea where I read/dreamt this fact, but did I read somewhere that Lord of the Apes was a small, 10,000 print run? It must have been a low distribution because it is still EXTREMELY rare and there must be a reason for its' scarcity--ie, it was scarce to begin with.
> The difference between the US and UK experience of Apes in the 70s is interesting.You guys got to see the first two movies in 1973 (?), the tv series ended in 1974 and the Marvel mag will have last hit the shelves in Nov 1976 (cover dates are always about two months AFTER the release date).In the UK, the TV Series ran into Jan 1975 and had a summer Saturday morning repeat in the summer of 1976.The Marvel comic ran, in merged form, until June 1977, with the third Brown Watson annual appearing in about August 1977 and, to keep the momentum going, the Apes movie started to appear on tv shortly after.So, in a very real sense, Apes seemed current in the UK until the late 70s,until the 'wilderness years' of the 80s encased us in their icy grip. John, Scrolls.
>

Just want to comment of this Sal Mineo story. It says that he found his role in Escape humiliating. That is so sad because I think that despite his small amount of screen time, Dr. Milo has become one of the most beloved characters from the original series. To me that is a testament to Mineo and his performance.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

> Too short: the life of Sal Mineo
> Bay Area Reporter
> Gay former child star Roddy McDowell, who had made the transition to adult
> character parts, got him a role in Return to the Planet of the Apes (71),
> ...
>
> http://www.ebar.com/arts/art_article.php?sec=books&article=603

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> They didn't interview Booth, they weren't willing to reschedule it.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> In terms of TV airings, CBS ran the Planet, Beneath and Escape in the
> fall of 1973. The 'Go Ape' festival was in June of 1974 with the first
> issue of Marvel's magazine coming out at the same time. The TV series
> was in the fall of 1974 with Conquest airing on TV in November.
> Unfortunately the TV series was canceled soon after that. Battle aired
> on TV on January 17th of '75 but it was shoved into a 90 minute time
> slot force many cuts in the film.
>
> While '73 through '74 was a great time to be a POTA fan the decline
> really started in 1975. While the Marvel magazine did publish until the
> end of 1976, it became thinner and thinner over time going from 84 pages
> to only 50.
>
> The franchise was really dead by the beginning of 1977 and with the
> release of Star Wars in May of that year it was forgotten by FOX and
> most fans.
>
> But that was then, it is now 2011 and we have a new film to look forward
> to this summer that will hopefully revive the franchise for a new
> generation.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Just want to comment of this Sal Mineo story. It says that he found his
> role in Escape humiliating. That is so sad because I think that despite
> his small amount of screen time, Dr. Milo has become one of the most
> beloved characters from the original series. To me that is a testament
> to Mineo and his performance.
>

It's been done: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Simpsons.htm ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> No, not an exclusive, just a thought.With Spider-Man's Into the Dark show/fiasco/disaster/slow burning mega success, and the planned Batman live show, how cool would it be to have an Apes musical--the imagery and cultural status would give it a real chance and it would look brilliant.No, come to think of it, I don't believe it either.....John, Scrolls.
>

Thanks Rory! Looking forward to hear what this book has to say about it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> I've ordered that biography of Mineo from Amazon. When I get it I'll report on exactly what it says, though I can well guess the tone already, and if it ever gets made into a movie, we APES fans aren't going to like it.
>
> -- Rory
>

Question since I'm not sure that I'm reading this right. Did the TV series air on television before any of the film did?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> The franchise sort of lingered on in the UK until 1979--the five movies gradually got shown here and, indeed, Battle was a big Christmas film for, I think, 1978 (I recall the eager anticipation of waiting for the TV Times, our version of the tv guide, only for there to be a strike that caused a black and white, very trimmed down version to be issued--this was towards the end of a Labour Government at war, ironically,with the unions!). I remember too the eager anticipation of buying the TV Times for the first showing of Planet, with a cool cover showing a big Chuck face and a pic of Cornelius in the corner.As I left the shop, barely able to hold this sacred book, I dropped the blasted thing in a puddle, face down.It dried okay, but it was a heart stopping moment for a ten year old! John, Scrolls.
>

I only got the first and it was novelizations of several episodes.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Sutton <apecityusa@...> wrote:
>
> I was able to grab a few of those tv paperbacks, but ironically I have never read them. Are stories of the three that never made it on air?
>  
> Chris
>

----- Original Message -----
From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
Date: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:57 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes the Musical

>
> It's been done:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Simpsons.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Simpsons.ht\
> m> ;-)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
> >
> > No, not an exclusive, just a thought.With Spider-Man's Into the Dark
> show/fiasco/disaster/slow burning mega success, and the planned Batman
> live show, how cool would it be to have an Apes musical--the
> imagery and
> cultural status would give it a real chance and it would look
> brilliant.No, come to think of it, I don't believe it either.....John,
> Scrolls.
> >
>
>
>

> Are stories of the three that never made it on air?

> Tyler Labine plays Franklin, a primatologist who befriends Caesar in
> "Rise of the Apes". Whatsa matter, he love apes or something? Yes he does.
> Labine says it's a very touching story and people were actually crying
> on set from Andy Serkis' performance as Caesar. Hmm, perhaps it will be a
> heart-warming holiday classic. If it ever gets here. Thanksgiving indeed! >
> : (
>
> http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/rise-of-the-apes-will-make-y
> ou-cry/
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Question since I'm not sure that I'm reading this right. Did the TV
> series air on television before any of the film did?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I think it's well known that POTA is LOVED in the U.K. (and Japan). I wonder if that had anything to do with Disney's decision not to put "Cars 2" up against "Apes" in the U.K. next summer? : )
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Sit down and relax! There's plenty of time. Fox has announced that the new "Apes" is moving from June to November.
> Doesn't sound like problems with the film, just the usual scheduling bullpuckey.
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/foxy-moves-rise-of-the-apes-takes-thanksgiving-slot-mr-poppers-penguins-set-for-start-of-summer/
>