--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> It's been announced that Ridley Scott's "Alien" prequel will no longer be an "Alien" picture but has morphed into an original film called "Prometheus". With "Predators" a wash, I guess that leaves POTA as Fox's only name sci-fi franchise (until "Avatar" returns in 5 years or so). Ridley Scott's return to sci-fi is a big deal for POTA's genre but it's an unknown quantity. When it was an "Alien" film it was supposed to come out at Christmas, now it's scheduled for March 2012; seems like a markdown in expectations. I'm not knocking originality, but from a corporate point of view I guess they better start treating POTA right.
> Anyway, it'll be interesting to see Great Scott return to sci-fi after 30 years.
>
> http://collider.com/alien-prequel-prometheus-noomi-rapace/70307/
>

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

Happy Birthday, Terry! You've gone grey. Other than that, you look pretty chipper for a man who's >CENSORED!< years old.

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

I wonder if they are having problems with the CGI. Could be why there hasn't been a teaser trailer yet.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Sit down and relax! There's plenty of time. Fox has announced that the new "Apes" is moving from June to November.
> Doesn't sound like problems with the film, just the usual scheduling bullpuckey.
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/foxy-moves-rise-of-the-apes-takes-thanksgiving-slot-mr-poppers-penguins-set-for-start-of-summer/
>

Thanks Cougar! It's a shame they didn't do all the episodes.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> Book # 1 contained "The Cure" and "The Good Seeds"
> Book # 2 contained "The Surgeon" and "The Deception"
> Book # 3 contained "The Legacy" and "The Horserace"
> Book # contained "The Tyrant" and "The Gladiators"
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal
>
> Terry Hoknes' Birthday
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> (This event repeats every year.)
>
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I don't think you can blame FOX. They never called the film a prequel. Bloggers started doing that, so they are responsible for the confusion.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> *** From the article you sent: "Tyler Labine plays a character named
> Franklin in <A
> HREF="http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/james-franco-talks-rise-of-the-apes/">Rise of the Apes</A>, the prequel to both the five
> part classic Planet of the Apes series and the memorably confusing 2001
> reboot."
>
> So now they're saying it's a prequel to both versions? Are they trying to
> please everyone by saying that, or are they just stupid? It can't be a
> prequel to both, they're not even the same thing... ***
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/14/2011 10:28:47 PM Central Standard Time,
> veetus@... writes:
>
>
> > Tyler Labine plays Franklin, a primatologist who befriends Caesar in
> > "Rise of the Apes". Whatsa matter, he love apes or something? Yes he does.
> > Labine says it's a very touching story and people were actually crying
> > on set from Andy Serkis' performance as Caesar. Hmm, perhaps it will be a
> > heart-warming holiday classic. If it ever gets here. Thanksgiving indeed! >
> > : (
> >
> > http://www.screenjunkies.com/movies/movie-news/rise-of-the-apes-will-make-y
> > ou-cry/
> >
>
>
> </HTML>
>

Exactly!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> They're just being stupid. It's "Batman Begins" with apes.
>

That's really nice of you Chris. I hope someone gives them a good home.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@... wrote:
>
> I have an extra copy of both the BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES and
> BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES Power Records sets, so whoever is
> interested and contacts me first can have them for the cost of shipping.
> Both are need of some restorative work, and BATTLE is in particularly
> rough shape as the outermost four panel sheet is missing. That can be
> corrected easily enough as they're all available for download online,
> plus- like I mentioned- they're free.
>
> Contact me at the above e-mail address if interested.
>
>
> Chris L.
>

Wow! In the US the TV series disappeared for years after it was canceled until the TV movies were released in 1980. They were only aired once on broadcast TV and, I believe, didn't show up again until the mid to late '80s when they were shown on cable. I myself didn't see the TV show after 1980 until the early '90s when it was shown on the SciFi channel.

By contrast the films were shown fairly regularly on TV. Planet was repeated on CBS twice and each of the sequels, except Conquest, once through 1976. After that they were shown by local stations. Here in New York the infamous '4:30 Movie' on Channel 7 aired them at least once a year into the '80s. In the 90s the movies were on cable mostly. I remember TBS doing a christmas day marathon sometime in the early '90s.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> In the uk, the TV Series aired three years before the first showing of the movies.I can remember being intensely jealous of scholl friends who got to go to the cinema to see Planet in 1974, when there was a re-release on the back of the TV Series' popularity.I,innocently, thought that the cinema version was a film version of the TV Series.John, Scrolls.
>
>

It's odd that there isn't even a teaser poster out yet. A mock-up one sheet was added to the group website months ago as a place holder: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Rise.htm it was assumed that a teaser would be released by now to replace that.

However, FOX may be taking their time, but we won't. If anyone else has a great design for a Rise one sheet, please send it and it will be added to the Rise page on the group website.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> That may explain the slow publicity.I picked up Empire yesterday for the 2011 preview, but, flicking through it, couldn't see Apes and so put it back and saved my fiver.At least it's better than having it pulled forward by the same amount of time, as happened with Burton's Apes.John, Scrolls.
>

If anyone wants to see the UK or the Adventures versions, they are available on Hunter's site: https://pota.goatley.com/marvel_uk.html" and https://pota.goatley.com/comics/adventures/.

The original U.S. B&W versions are available on the Marvel Archive here: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Woodrow <patrick.woodrow@...> wrote:
>
> As UK members will probably know, the art for the first chapter of Marvel's "Beneath" story was highly modified before it made it to #35-6 of the UK comic. Unlike the art for later chapters of this adaptation, these pages were originally rendered by Alfredo Alcala almost entirely in grey ink wash with very little black linework. In the US, this tonal artwork was reproduced directly (POTA #7), but, for the UK run, the pages were traced in black ink by someone considerably less able than Alcala. A degree of censorship also made its way into the UK editions: Taylor no longer cries "Damn you all to hell!", but "Blast you all to hell!" Nova's costume, which now seems unflatteringly baggy, shows considerably less cleavage and thigh, and her face is also redrawn in the Marvel house style. However, since Alcala rendered later chapters predominantly with black linework, the corresponding UK editions could be more easily printed with a minimum of
> retouching. As a result, Nova's more risque attire appears without alteration in later UK issues.
>  
> Interestingly, when the first "Beneath" chapter was reprinted for the colour "Adventures" series, it was once again redrawn as B&W linework, and different alterations were made in the process. Taylor now cries, "Noooooo!! You fools! You bloody fools!!", and Nova undergoes yet another wardrobe change, this time for continuity reasons rather than for the younger readership. She now sports the "bikini" style outfit established in Tuska's "Planet" art as opposed to Alcala's "one piece". Taylor's loincloth is likewise altered to match the over the shoulder leopardskin Tuska drew.
>  
> If you don't own or want to dig out these issues, the easiest way to compare the various incarnations is to find them online and tab between them. The group archive has the original US edition and Hunter's site has the UK and "Adventures" versions.
>

Sucks to have to redo that countdown clock dosen't it?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> Oh well.
>
> Al
>
>

Very good! I just realized that by moving the film to Thanksgiving it will be 3 years since Tom Rothman first made the announcement about the new film on Fox Legacy.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> Already done! ;o)
>
> http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com/caesar.htmlbr>>
> Al
>

I'll just be happy if it doesn't suck like their last reboot attempt.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> 
> Maybe this movie will turn out to be something really special, and with a November release, perhaps it'll get Academy Award nominations. Imagine a "Planet of the Apes" movie nominated for Best Picture -- something that should have happened 42 years ago!
>

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----- Original Message -----
From: Dario Sciola <darios@...>
Date: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Planet of the Apes the Musical

>
> There really was an opera featuring humanoid apes that was done in
> someEuropean country (Germany, Czech?) years ago. I don't think it
> reallyused the "Planet of the Apes" name, but there were some pictures
> floating on the internet and clearly there was a resemblance to
> Apes.
> Very elaborate costumes.
>
> Dario
>

> Ridley Scott is a stylish hack, and the original ALIEN is terribly
> overrated. Don't get me started on BLADERUNNER, which I don't
> consider much better than LOGAN'S RUN.

Thanks Dario!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
> Found some pics I had.
>
> Seems that it was a German production of Rigoletto.
>
> Dario
>

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>>I've been meaning to look in on how to do that.

>>

>>I got my hands on issues 1-22, the Annual and Urchak's Folly and

>>That's really nice of you Chris. I hope someone gives them a good

>>I have an extra copy of both the BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES and

> I was in direct contact with Fox (specifically about BENEATH) when they
> were preparing the Blu ray releases since the missing sound EFX had always
> been a pet peeve of mine.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> If Ridley Scott's Robin Hood is anything to go by,'Prometheus' will not be a new 'Alien',Personally, I think Scott has forgotten how to make a good movie and he is not the greatest at melding the CGI bits with the live action, which comes across as flat and deadpan.Just a personal opinion, but I feel if you take Alien and BladeRunner away, his later body of work is bland and very corporate.Aplogies to Scott fans everywhere.John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ridley Scott is a stylish hack, and the original ALIEN is terribly overrated. Don't get me started on BLADERUNNER, which I don't consider much better than LOGAN'S RUN.
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > Ridley Scott is a stylish hack, and the original ALIEN is terribly
> > overrated. Don't get me started on BLADERUNNER, which I don't
> > consider much better than LOGAN'S RUN.
>
> How dare you put down LOGAN'S RUN like that! I can't help it---I love
> that movie....
>
> Hunter
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@... wrote:
>
> eBay? Trade them back to MHC for the insulting price they'll offer you
> after overcharging you in the first place?
>
> You definitely don't buy the rest of the Adventure stuff though. If you
> hated Urchak's Folly, I can't even imagine how you'd react to Ape City.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Supreme Dalek" <serenity1960@...> wrote:
>
> >>I got my hands on issues 1-22, the Annual and Urchak's Folly and I'll
> be honest - these are crap. The Monthly had some of the worst writing and
> art I've ever seen. What are supposed to be apes look like mutants and
> other than the first few issues, the story denigrates quickly into crap.
> The names are also mental - Frito and Jojo? The Spirit of Governor Breck?
> How I didn't barf right on some of these issues is beyond me. The art in
> the monthly, as well as being dreadful, in the case of Ollo and his
> Gorillas, was simply a rip off the Gorillas from Jack Kirby's far
> superior Kamanadi series. The entire Simon and Grunt sub plot was decent
> - until Simon was dragged along by a Gorilla, supposedly to become and
> Aldonite. (I also thought the Taylorite idea silly, but the art in Urchak
> was the best of the series). This garbage made Terror and Revolution
> (which could have been great without some of the lamer ideas) look like
> Hugo award winning ideas.
>
> Now I'm left with a lone idea - what do I do with these? :) <<
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Cougar! It's a shame they didn't do all the episodes.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@ wrote:
> >
> > Book # 1 contained "The Cure" and "The Good Seeds"
> > Book # 2 contained "The Surgeon" and "The Deception"
> > Book # 3 contained "The Legacy" and "The Horserace"
> > Book # contained "The Tyrant" and "The Gladiators"
> >
>

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:37 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:

I,too, have a soft spot for Logan's Run.As far as I know, the tv series still hasn't been released on dvd, which is weird.I had the joy of meeting Heather Menzies at a Cult TV event a few years ago and she signed my Logan's Run annual.And, more importantly, I can confirm that if you make her giggle, they still jiggle. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > Ridley Scott is a stylish hack, and the original ALIEN is terribly
> > overrated. Don't get me started on BLADERUNNER, which I don't
> > consider much better than LOGAN'S RUN.
>
> How dare you put down LOGAN'S RUN like that! I can't help it---I love
> that movie....
>
> Hunter
>

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I,too, have a soft spot for Logan's Run.As far as I know, the tv series still hasn't been released on dvd, which is weird.I had the joy of meeting Heather Menzies at a Cult TV event a few years ago and she signed my Logan's Run annual.And, more importantly, I can confirm that if you make her giggle, they still jiggle. John, Scrolls.
>

----- Original Message -----

From: gp3085

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:10 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" the last Fox sci-fi franchise left standing

 

The episodes are all available on iTunes and via Amazon's VOD service here in the U.S.. But it looks like Warner Archive will release them on DVD later this year.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Logans-Run-The-Complete-Series/14913

Greg

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I,too, have a soft spot for Logan's Run.As far as I know, the tv series still hasn't been released on dvd, which is weird.I had the joy of meeting Heather Menzies at a Cult TV event a few years ago and she signed my Logan's Run annual.And, more importantly, I can confirm that if you make her giggle, they still jiggle. John, Scrolls.
>

> I, too, have a soft spot for Logan's Run. As far as I know, the TV series
> still hasn't been released on dvd, which is weird

>>*** You actually were in contact with someone there? It's hard to

>>What's wrong with the Blu ray of BENEATH? Aside from one sound