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We talk about you behind your back, Hunter. There's a difference.


From: Hunter Goatley
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 4:53 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] RIP John Barry (OT)



You guys talk about him, and then he dies:

5-Oscar winner, composer John Barry, dies at 77

Please don't talk about me....


--
Hunter

> We talk about you behind your back, Hunter. There's a difference.

Cool. I'm still here, so apparently behind my back is OK.

Hunter

I talked about you in front of your back.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
> Cool. I'm still here, so apparently behind my back is OK.

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*** I'm in prehistoric computer days... ***



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robert.mansell@... writes:

> You can burn to disc, it can be uploaded to torrent in the DVD format,
> 4.3 gigs.
>
> Robert Mansell
>
>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <A HREF="mailto:mlccougar@...">mlccougar@...</A>
>> To: <A HREF="mailto:pota@yahoogroups.com">pota@yahoogroups.com</A>
>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [pota] Rarities 3 update
>>
>>
>> *** Same here... I prefer to have an actual hard copy, I don't see how
>> watching anything online can be that enjoyable... ***
>>
>>
>

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We got the tv series in late 1974, a few weeks after the US.The movies weren't shown until, I think, late 1977, which may account for the possible TV Series bias of UK fans.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Mansell" <robert.mansell@...> wrote:
>
> Time was different back then, not sure when the series aired in the UK but asw I was born in '72 I can remember it quite vividly and if it was aired a lot later then it would account for the models becoming available later.
>
> We didn't get series straight away back in the seventies, could have been up to a year later I would imagine.
>
> Robert Mansell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johnroche49
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:13 AM
> Subject: [pota] UK Ape-lag
>
>
>
> I had a look at the excellent mego museum site and noticed that as far as the Mego Apes releases were concerned, the UK lagged behind the US again! The US had its two Mego waves in 1974 and 1975, with the original four movie characters followed by the tv seies, but over here, the two releases by Palitoy were in 1975 and 1976.So, as late as 1976, the UK was having the Marvel comic, the animated series, the hardback annuals AND new Mego releases.No wonder we felt as though the franchise was 'current'.And shortly after wee got colour tvs and cars, too.John, Scrolls.
>

I'll also be digging out my Dances with Wolves cd.The man was an unquestionable genius.I forgive him for beating Jerry's Apes.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> You guys talk about him, and then he dies:
>
> 5-Oscar winner, composer John Barry, dies at 77
>
>
>
>
> Oh, that is sad news. Although I've resented his THE LION IN WINTER score for beating out Goldsmith's PLANET OF THE APES score at the 1969
> Academy Awards, that wasn't Barry's fault, and most of the scores he's done, including many of the original James Bond movies and other '60s classics, I very much like and have many on CD.
>
> Most of my score CDs I listen to in the car to and from work. I know who I'll be listening to today.
>
> -- Rory
>

I freely admit I'm a big comics fan (in both senses of 'big').Comics gave me some moral ideas early in my life that I have rarely adhered to but at least I know about them (it's a bit like being Catholic---we sin as much as everybody else but we're taught to feel worse about it!).Still, Stan Lee's drugs issues of Spider-Man left an indelible mark on me---I got through University without touching drugs.The Iron Man saga 'Demon in a Bottle' helped steer me away from the family tradition of alcoholism.I think the idea of comics is different from the reality of modern comics.Some of the most gripping literature out there is in comics form---Maus,Watchmen,V for Vendetta,Walking Dead, From Hell and lots of others.Cinema is mining this rich seam.The Apes mag was excellent, blessed with the great Doug Moench on scripts and some stunning art.By common consensus, Ploog's art on #6 and #8 is amongst the very best art ever published in a black and white mag.Some of Alcala's art on Conquest is ground breaking--have a look at the two pages where Caesar cries over the death of Armando and then goes to see Aldo---in those panels you see the transition from despair to rebellion in far more touching terms than the movie conveys.Some people love comics, some hate them, some don't care.I feel lucky ,as an Apes fan, that Apes has been so well served by the medium.
There are those who say America's three great cultural landmarks are the Western, Jazz and Comics.John,Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Them's fighting words.I love the Marvel Apes universe
>
> Either you're into comics or you're not. You see, I never read comics as a kid. I was lazy and felt read was too much work, even in a comic book, and I'd rather watch TV or go to a movie. Reading was something you had to do in school. I really didn't start reading much until I was around twelve and by then I'd rather read a good novel than a comic, so when those APES Marvel comics came out, I was more interested in what the articles had to say.
>
> -- Rory
>

If you're prehistoric, I'm in the primordial ooze waiting to evolve.I'm with Galen 'What's a computer?' as far as technology is concerned.What's the point---Apes will leave us medieval in a thousand years anyway! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> *** I'm in prehistoric computer days... ***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/31/2011 2:58:45 PM Central Standard Time,
> robert.mansell@... writes:
>
>
> > You can burn to disc, it can be uploaded to torrent in the DVD format,
> > 4.3 gigs.
> >
> > Robert Mansell
> >
> >
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <A HREF="mailto:mlccougar@...">mlccougar@...</A>
> >> To: <A HREF="mailto:pota@yahoogroups.com">pota@yahoogroups.com</A>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:41 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [pota] Rarities 3 update
> >>
> >>
> >> *** Same here... I prefer to have an actual hard copy, I don't see how
> >> watching anything online can be that enjoyable... ***
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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I liked the articles and the film adaptations. Most of their original comics didn't really do anything for me.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> I've never taken the stuff Marvel did seriously and never took their timeline seriously. I really was only into it for the articles.
>
> Anyway, comics tend to be action orientated and therefore don't bother with brilliant dialogue or real food-for-thought stories, so I tend not to take them seriously.
>
>

But was that before or after they published the timeline?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> I forget which issue this was, but at one point in Terror, the Lawgiver in that story was referred to as being Ape City's second Lawgiver. So I guess the question is this: When did the first Lawgiver live? :)
>

I liked the first couple of chapters but once they started with the giant brains in jars, it lost me.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> *** Nothing about TERROR really does... I know it has its fans, but I never
> got the appeal... ***
>
>

Don't worry our next target is Mel Brooks for winning the best screenplay Oscar in 1968.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> You guys talk about him, and then he dies:
>
> 5-Oscar winner, composer John Barry, dies at 77
> <http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110131/ap_on_en_mu/eu_obit_john_barry>
>
> Please don't talk about me....
>
> --
> Hunter
>

Didn't the movies run in movie theaters? Did they do any Go Ape marathons?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> We got the tv series in late 1974, a few weeks after the US.The movies weren't shown until, I think, late 1977, which may account for the possible TV Series bias of UK fans.John, Scrolls.
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: lawford42@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:57 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Space 1999 and pecking orders

 

Yet both blew big time chunks, dumped all over the source material, and clearly had no respect for it.

 

BTW, what new Space: 1999 release?

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: johnroche49

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:24 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: UK Ape-lag

 

We got the tv series in late 1974, a few weeks after the US.The movies weren't shown until, I think, late 1977, which may account for the possible TV Series bias of UK fans.John, Scrolls.

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I'm what you would call a 'born again' comic reader. I started buying
comics just around the time the Marvel POTA magazines came out, and
remember reading that first issue cover to cover several times over. But
my comic buying stopped after a year or two after moving to a
neigborhood where comics were not as accessible. I then became a
voracious reader of novels, mostly science fiction, and became something
of a comics snob as I felt that the written word in novels and short
stories far surpassed anything in comics. Over the years some of my
comic buying friends told me that I should be reading them, but I could
never be persuaded to try them again. It was only through a set of
coincidental circumstances that got me to revisit comics about ten years
ago. I was astonished to see how comics had grown up over the years and
how much they had matured and how intricate weaved words and images
could make for a unique storytelling experience. I've since read many of
the now classic comics (Watchmen, Maus, Dark KNight, etc) and continue
to enjoy them and good comics in general. Sure there are and always have
been some pretty bad ones, but that is the case with novels as well.
Sometimes you just have to endure some of the bad to get to the good
stuff. In a way, reading the not so great material makes you that much
more appreciative of the good.

I would suggest that people who've never read any comics at least give
it a try. But ask around first so that you aren't reading garbage that
would have you dismiss all comics in one fell swoop. Like Taylor, you
may be surprised at what you find.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: johnroche49 <johnroche49@...>
Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011 5:38 am
Subject: [pota] Re: New POTA Comic Announced

> I freely admit I'm a big comics fan (in both senses of
> 'big').Comics gave me some moral ideas early in my life that I have
> rarely adhered to but at least I know about them (it's a bit like
> being Catholic---we sin as much as everybody else but we're taught
> to feel worse about it!).Still, Stan Lee's drugs issues of Spider-
> Man left an indelible mark on me---I got through University without
> touching drugs.The Iron Man saga 'Demon in a Bottle' helped steer
> me away from the family tradition of alcoholism.I think the idea of
> comics is different from the reality of modern comics.Some of the
> most gripping literature out there is in comics form---
> Maus,Watchmen,V for Vendetta,Walking Dead, From Hell and lots of
> others.Cinema is mining this rich seam.The Apes mag was excellent,
> blessed with the great Doug Moench on scripts and some stunning
> art.By common consensus, Ploog's art on #6 and #8 is amongst the
> very best art ever published in a black and white mag.Some of
> Alcala's art on Conquest is ground breaking--have a look at the two
> pages where Caesar cries over the death of Armando and then goes to
> see Aldo---in those panels you see the transition from despair to
> rebellion in far more touching terms than the movie conveys.Some
> people love comics, some hate them, some don't care.I feel lucky
> ,as an Apes fan, that Apes has been so well served by the medium.
> There are those who say America's three great cultural landmarks
> are the Western, Jazz and Comics.John,Scrolls.
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: jamesa1102

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:55 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: UK Ape-lag

 

Didn't the movies run in movie theaters? Did they do any Go Ape marathons?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> We got the tv series in late 1974, a few weeks after the US.The movies weren't shown until, I think, late 1977, which may account for the possible TV Series bias of UK fans.John, Scrolls.
>

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The tv series aired in the UK between October 1974 and Jan 1975.Then I recall it was shown again, on Saturday mornings, in 1976. After that, it was shown as part of Channel 4 (FOUR CHANNELS!!!) opening presentations in 1981, at about 4pm.I recall leaving a three hour Welsh exam after two hours, with the lie that I had a dental appointment, to get home in time for it.Then Channel 4 repeated it again in the 90s, as did the SciFi Channel.Then dvds arrived and stole all the excitement! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Mansell" <robert.mansell@...> wrote:
>
> No worries, was 2 then, but definately saw the series a lot in the UK late seventies/early eighties then nothing till about 92ish.
>
> Robert Mansell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johnroche49
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:24 AM
> Subject: [pota] Re: UK Ape-lag
>
>
>
> We got the tv series in late 1974, a few weeks after the US.The movies weren't shown until, I think, late 1977, which may account for the possible TV Series bias of UK fans.John, Scrolls.
>

The first movie was certainly re-released in the UK during the original tv series run---I recall the agony of not seeing it myself when other kids were talking about Landon's scar.Funny how THAT was what they recalled, in particular.I, personally, don't know if there were any 'Go Ape' UK marathons---maybe somebody else recalls? The first movie was shown on tv in, I'm pretty sure, 1977, with the other four following over the next year or so at fairly regular intervals.It may even be that steady drip feed of Apes movies that sheltered me a bit from total Star Wars devotion---I loved Star Wars but, mentally, I was bonded to Apes forever and never quite got swept away in the Lucas storm.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Didn't the movies run in movie theaters? Did they do any Go Ape
> marathons?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > We got the tv series in late 1974, a few weeks after the US.The movies
> weren't shown until, I think, late 1977, which may account for the
> possible TV Series bias of UK fans.John, Scrolls.
> >
>

Wise words.There are some dreadful comics, but there are,equally, some dreadful movies, tv shows and songs. Comics can do some things that don't work as well in other media and the opposite is also true, which is why some movie adaptations are so clunky.Personally, I think the quality of the good comics today is higher than it's ever been, and the crap ones are the crappiest ever! Dario is spot on in suggesting asking around.There's a whole world of quality graphic entertainment out there.For Apes, I would highly recommend Moench and Alcala's Conquest adaptation---simply superb.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
> I'm what you would call a 'born again' comic reader. I started buying
> comics just around the time the Marvel POTA magazines came out, and
> remember reading that first issue cover to cover several times over. But
> my comic buying stopped after a year or two after moving to a
> neigborhood where comics were not as accessible. I then became a
> voracious reader of novels, mostly science fiction, and became something
> of a comics snob as I felt that the written word in novels and short
> stories far surpassed anything in comics. Over the years some of my
> comic buying friends told me that I should be reading them, but I could
> never be persuaded to try them again. It was only through a set of
> coincidental circumstances that got me to revisit comics about ten years
> ago. I was astonished to see how comics had grown up over the years and
> how much they had matured and how intricate weaved words and images
> could make for a unique storytelling experience. I've since read many of
> the now classic comics (Watchmen, Maus, Dark KNight, etc) and continue
> to enjoy them and good comics in general. Sure there are and always have
> been some pretty bad ones, but that is the case with novels as well.
> Sometimes you just have to endure some of the bad to get to the good
> stuff. In a way, reading the not so great material makes you that much
> more appreciative of the good.
>
> I would suggest that people who've never read any comics at least give
> it a try. But ask around first so that you aren't reading garbage that
> would have you dismiss all comics in one fell swoop. Like Taylor, you
> may be surprised at what you find.
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johnroche49 <johnroche49@...>
> Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011 5:38 am
> Subject: [pota] Re: New POTA Comic Announced
>
> > I freely admit I'm a big comics fan (in both senses of
> > 'big').Comics gave me some moral ideas early in my life that I have
> > rarely adhered to but at least I know about them (it's a bit like
> > being Catholic---we sin as much as everybody else but we're taught
> > to feel worse about it!).Still, Stan Lee's drugs issues of Spider-
> > Man left an indelible mark on me---I got through University without
> > touching drugs.The Iron Man saga 'Demon in a Bottle' helped steer
> > me away from the family tradition of alcoholism.I think the idea of
> > comics is different from the reality of modern comics.Some of the
> > most gripping literature out there is in comics form---
> > Maus,Watchmen,V for Vendetta,Walking Dead, From Hell and lots of
> > others.Cinema is mining this rich seam.The Apes mag was excellent,
> > blessed with the great Doug Moench on scripts and some stunning
> > art.By common consensus, Ploog's art on #6 and #8 is amongst the
> > very best art ever published in a black and white mag.Some of
> > Alcala's art on Conquest is ground breaking--have a look at the two
> > pages where Caesar cries over the death of Armando and then goes to
> > see Aldo---in those panels you see the transition from despair to
> > rebellion in far more touching terms than the movie conveys.Some
> > people love comics, some hate them, some don't care.I feel lucky
> > ,as an Apes fan, that Apes has been so well served by the medium.
> > There are those who say America's three great cultural landmarks
> > are the Western, Jazz and Comics.John,Scrolls.
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

>
>
> Didn't the movies run in movie theaters? Did they do any Go Ape
> marathons?

All the movies ran at the cinemas (I saw Beneath, Escape and Battle on their original UK release).

I think 'Planet' was re-released while the TV show was still in its original run and the sequels were re-released after but I don't recall any marathons, only ever 'double bills' which were usually Beneath paired with Conquest and Escape with Battle (because of the ratings certificates, you see).

The movies weren't shown on UK TV until after the original broadcast of the TV series had been and gone.

Dave

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----- Original Message -----

From: lawford42@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:31 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Rarities 3 update

 

Doesn't matter what you were thinking. Hunter created the disc and said he doesn't want it up on a torrent site. End of story. If you can't honor that request, don't ask for a copy. Also, regardless if a torrent site keeps records or not, the simple fact is they have MUCH greater exposure than a DVD that gets distributed among members of a Yahoo group.

 

And my head hurts just reading your "simple" explanation of a private torrent stream- why overthink the whole process? The distribution approach previous projects have used is just fine.

 

 

Chris L.

 

 

 

"Robert Mansell" <robert.mansell@...> wrote:

 

>>Just makes it easier to distribute was what I was thinking and demonoid keeps no records..... <<

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:

>
> All the movies ran at the cinemas (I saw Beneath, Escape and Battle on their original UK release).
>
> I think 'Planet' was re-released while the TV show was still in its original run and the sequels were re-released after but I don't recall any marathons, only ever 'double bills' which were usually Beneath paired with Conquest and Escape with Battle (because of the ratings certificates, you see).
>
>

Yes, this is how I remember it in the UK. I watched the original in the cinema while the TV series was on, taken by a friend's mother along with that friend. After that, I got to watch Escape in the cinema, and it was actually the first film that I was allowed to go on my own to watch, so it has a special place in my heart. Awww...

>
> The movies weren't shown on UK TV until after the original broadcast of the TV series had been and gone.

Yes, that's also how I remember it.


Graham F

Were the films popular in their original release or did POTA fandom not take off until the TV show?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
>
> All the movies ran at the cinemas (I saw Beneath, Escape and Battle on their original UK release).
>
> I think 'Planet' was re-released while the TV show was still in its original run and the sequels were re-released after but I don't recall any marathons, only ever 'double bills' which were usually Beneath paired with Conquest and Escape with Battle (because of the ratings certificates, you see).
>
> The movies weren't shown on UK TV until after the original broadcast of the TV series had been and gone.
>
> Dave
>

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Another thing I recall from October 1974 was a television advert for Marvel's two new hot weeklies, Planet of the Apes and Dracula Lives. Comics used to be advertised a lot on telly those days---15 second slots, normally advertising a new comic with a crappy free gift (replica war medal, model plane, tranfers etc).I remember, actually, that may very first exposure to Apes was probably that telly ad for Apes.I recall the glorious Larkin cover for #1 (the UK used US #2 for itsa first cover, possibly the best cover of the 29 issue run, using US #1 ,possibly the worst cover of the 29 issue run, as the free gift colour poster).The cover of UK #1 just exploded off the screen and had a real 'look'.Happy, happy days.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gort65" <gort65@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >
> > All the movies ran at the cinemas (I saw Beneath, Escape and Battle on their original UK release).
> >
> > I think 'Planet' was re-released while the TV show was still in its original run and the sequels were re-released after but I don't recall any marathons, only ever 'double bills' which were usually Beneath paired with Conquest and Escape with Battle (because of the ratings certificates, you see).
> >
> >
>
> Yes, this is how I remember it in the UK. I watched the original in the cinema while the TV series was on, taken by a friend's mother along with that friend. After that, I got to watch Escape in the cinema, and it was actually the first film that I was allowed to go on my own to watch, so it has a special place in my heart. Awww...
>
> >
> > The movies weren't shown on UK TV until after the original broadcast of the TV series had been and gone.
>
> Yes, that's also how I remember it.
>
>
> Graham F
>

They used to advertise comics on television in the UK? Seems
unimaginable now. I've never seen any TV ads for any comics here. It
would be cool if some of these ads still existed, like we've still got
the old MEGO ads.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: johnroche49 <johnroche49@...>
Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011 4:55 am
Subject: [pota] Re: UK Ape-lag

> Another thing I recall from October 1974 was a television advert
> for Marvel's two new hot weeklies, Planet of the Apes and Dracula
> Lives. Comics used to be advertised a lot on telly those days---15
> second slots, normally advertising a new comic with a crappy free
> gift (replica war medal, model plane, tranfers etc).I remember,
> actually, that may very first exposure to Apes was probably that
> telly ad for Apes.I recall the glorious Larkin cover for #1 (the UK
> used US #2 for itsa first cover, possibly the best cover of the 29
> issue run, using US #1 ,possibly the worst cover of the 29 issue
> run, as the free gift colour poster).The cover of UK #1 just
> exploded off the screen and had a real 'look'.Happy, happy
> days.John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gort65" <gort65@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > All the movies ran at the cinemas (I saw Beneath, Escape and
> Battle on their original UK release).
> > >
> > > I think 'Planet' was re-released while the TV show was still in
> its original run and the sequels were re-released after but I don't
> recall any marathons, only ever 'double bills' which were usually
> Beneath paired with Conquest and Escape with Battle (because of the
> ratings certificates, you see).
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Yes, this is how I remember it in the UK. I watched the original
> in the cinema while the TV series was on, taken by a friend's
> mother along with that friend. After that, I got to watch Escape in
> the cinema, and it was actually the first film that I was allowed
> to go on my own to watch, so it has a special place in my heart.
> Awww...>
> > >
> > > The movies weren't shown on UK TV until after the original
> broadcast of the TV series had been and gone.
> >
> > Yes, that's also how I remember it.
> >
> >
> > Graham F
> >
>
>
>

Last year I got into the recent redo of "Battlestar Galactica". It's apocalyptic sensibility reminded me of certain sci-fi I've liked in the past, so I did a search for POTA in the "Battlestar Wiki" and found that POTA was a definite influence on the show. It's main creator, Ron Moore, called POTA "one of the greatest film franchises of all time" in the podcast for the "Eye of Jupiter" episode (which includes a visual reference to "Beneath"). And episodes like "The Hub", "Revelations" and "Sometimes A Great Notion" feature references (the character Starbuck is told, "You may not like what you find" when she seeks knowledge of her destiny, and she's also referred to as the "harbinger of death"). The show also has similar names like the Sacred Scrolls and Galen. It's definitely got some themes and attitude POTA fans might cotton to. Even Eric Greene wrote about it in the book "So Say We All".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8gzMfGng6U
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
I never got into the original "Battlestar Galactica". Even as a kid it was too wooden and bland for me. But Lew "Mandemus" Ayres did feature in the first episode.

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I love the cover of POTA issue #1!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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>  US #1 ,possibly the worst cover of the 29 issue run,

I do, as well! I'll never forget the surprise of finding that cover in the magazine rack of my local drugstore in the summer of 1974!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> I love the cover of POTA issue #1!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > US #1 ,possibly the worst cover of the 29 issue run,
>

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i have a question for the u.k. ape fans, have any of you visited the MOVIEUM museum by the london eye and if so was it worth it? i have seen many bad and good reviews cant get a feel if worth visiting?  goapebilly

 

In a message dated 2/3/2011 10:48:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mmuse@... writes:

 

I do, as well! I'll never forget the surprise of finding that cover in the magazine rack of my local drugstore in the summer of 1974!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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>
> I love the cover of POTA issue #1!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > US #1 ,possibly the worst cover of the 29 issue run,
>

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I remember it very well. It was the first week of August and a friend showed me his copy. I had to beg my mother for the dollar and then walk 12 blocks to the news stand. I was lucky enough to get their last copy.

One good thing, because I didn't find out about issue #1 until early August; I only had to wait a few weeks for issue #2.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mmuse@... wrote:
>
> I do, as well! I'll never forget the surprise of finding that cover in the magazine rack of my local drugstore in the summer of 1974!
>

You're right, James. I think I bought issue #1 in late June, and the wait for issue #2 was almost intolerable to my 12 year-old mind!

Mike

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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>
> I remember it very well. It was the first week of August and a friend
> showed me his copy. I had to beg my mother for the dollar and then walk
> 12 blocks to the news stand. I was lucky enough to get their last copy.
>
> One good thing, because I didn't find out about issue #1 until early
> August; I only had to wait a few weeks for issue #2.
>

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<< Battlestar Galactica redux is the greatest TV series you'll ever see. >>



Agreed, it has set the bar very high.







From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 6:01 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA and "Battlestar Galactica"





Battlestar Galactica redux is the greatest TV series you'll ever see.
At least it is to me.



Al

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:

>
> Battlestar Galactica redux is the greatest TV series you'll ever see.
> At least it is to me.
>

I loved the first two seasons, but it lost its way during season three. Don't talk to me about season four and the finale, because it just proved to me that Ron Moore was just winging it in the vain hope of coming to some sort of conclusion. Good start, some great episodes (loved Pegasus), but went out with a whimper. Still, when it was good, it was good and fresh.


Graham F

Anyone who wishes to continue discussing Battlestar Galactica can do so here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ron_Moores_Galactica, this group is for discussing POTA. Thank you.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gort65" <gort65@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz pota1968@ wrote:
> >
> > Battlestar Galactica redux is the greatest TV series you'll ever see.
> > At least it is to me.
> >
>
> I loved the first two seasons, but it lost its way during season three. Don't talk to me about season four and the finale, because it just proved to me that Ron Moore was just winging it in the vain hope of coming to some sort of conclusion. Good start, some great episodes (loved Pegasus), but went out with a whimper. Still, when it was good, it was good and fresh.
>
>
> Graham F
>

While the cover to #1 has it's problems, the two frowning chimps (Zira
and Milo?) being especially mediocre, I must say that I loved it since
the day I bought that issue. The intense colors with the vibrant
sunshine mesmerized me as a kid. They used the same effects on some of
the later covers, but I saw it first on that first issue. I also thought
that the two prominent gorillas were very well done.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011 10:02 am
Subject: [pota] Re: UK Ape-lag

>
> I love the cover of POTA issue #1!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
> >
> > US #1 ,possibly the worst cover of the 29 issue run,
>
>

they did down here in Australia too - Newton Comics was handling the
Marvel reissues and the Planet of The Apes - they did a great add both
on TV and in print which went something like - Tired of watching and
listening to repeats - why not read these" and then had the list of
Comics that they were issuing.

KJ

Personally, I think the cover of Apes #1 looks slapped together.In fact, I think it was based on several well known stills and it has the feel of a collage.I once tried to piece the cover together with what I guess was the reference stills and it is possible, but not for a techno tit like me. I love the cover, but issue #2 is a real painting, with composition and power.And it might just have been the first Apes image I ever saw! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> While the cover to #1 has it's problems, the two frowning chimps (Zira
> and Milo?) being especially mediocre, I must say that I loved it since
> the day I bought that issue. The intense colors with the vibrant
> sunshine mesmerized me as a kid. They used the same effects on some of
> the later covers, but I saw it first on that first issue. I also thought
> that the two prominent gorillas were very well done.
>
> Dario
>

I read/heard somewhere that Newton used to do newspaper adverts for its Apes mag---any way of finding those, I wonder? If you're in Oz, I hope you're safe and dry. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kevin <pellew@...> wrote:
>
> they did down here in Australia too - Newton Comics was handling the
> Marvel reissues and the Planet of The Apes - they did a great add both
> on TV and in print which went something like - Tired of watching and
> listening to repeats - why not read these" and then had the list of
> Comics that they were issuing.
>
> KJ
>

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Newton was also planning to run an original POTA comic in their reprints of the Marvel series, but that never came to pass. The story would have been plotted and dialogued by Philip Bentley, with pencils by Colin Paraskevas and inks by Greg Gates.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kevin <pellew@...> wrote:
> they did down here in Australia too - Newton Comics was handling the
> Marvel reissues and the Planet of The Apes - they did a great add both
> on TV and in print which went something like - Tired of watching and
> listening to repeats - why not read these" and then had the list of
> Comics that they were issuing.
>
> KJ
>

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I remember the newspaper ads but do not have any - I have my Apes comics
in a box so I will hunt them up as I remember they ran the same ads at
the back of the comics. Yes I am in Australia and I am safe BUT I am in
New South Wales which is currently going through a heat wave! You gotta
love Australia!

KJ

> I read/heard somewhere that Newton used to do newspaper adverts for its Apes mag---any way of finding those, I wonder? If you're in Oz, I hope you're safe and dry. John, Scrolls.
>

Glad you're safe.In Wales it's raining sideways, so I can't find the words to express my joy that you're having a heatwave.Not clean words, anyway.It would be great to see those ads--the Newton comics are a bit of an untapped Apes resource.I wonder is there, anywhere, an archive of tv ads we could tap into? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kevin <pellew@...> wrote:
>
> I remember the newspaper ads but do not have any - I have my Apes comics
> in a box so I will hunt them up as I remember they ran the same ads at
> the back of the comics. Yes I am in Australia and I am safe BUT I am in
> New South Wales which is currently going through a heat wave! You gotta
> love Australia!
>
> KJ
>

Wouldn't it be cool if, in some way, the new movie could give a nod to the red, green and tan colours from Conquest? My pet theory as to why the gorillas were the only ones to drop their slave colours is that they, probably more than the other two, suffered brutally and were, therefore, inclined to totally break with the past, seeing speech, technolgy and learning as weapons of the masters.Have there EVER been cooler looking movies than Apes---style that serves the plot, not just style for style's sake.John, Scrolls.

I heard on the radio yesterday an 'interesting' 'fact'.Apparently, in the US, more people have attended Star Trek conventions that have attended to give blood.And there was me thinking translating comics and Shakespeare into Klingon was a bit scarey.If all the Apes fans in the world gave blood,could we supply a vampire drinks party for two? John, Scrolls.

The heat wave is the worst we have had in years as is the tropical
storms and floods in Queensland - I had searched for the ads on the nett
but haven't found any. Give me a week or so to hunt up my apes!

KJ

On 5/02/2011 9:10 PM, johnroche49 wrote:
> Glad you're safe.In Wales it's raining sideways, so I can't find the words to express my joy that you're having a heatwave.Not clean words, anyway.It would be great to see those ads--the Newton comics are a bit of an untapped Apes resource.I wonder is there, anywhere, an archive of tv ads we could tap into? John, Scrolls.
>

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Sounds like you need a Welsh Heatwave.

That the rush of warmth from you body as

the whiskey hit your stomach.   ^.~

 

BBI Laredo

Strike Team Comanche

 

 

In a message dated 2/5/2011 6:12:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, johnroche49@... writes:

In Wales it's raining sideways, so I can't find the words to express my joy that you're having a heatwave.

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I wouldn't complain too much.

It's all snow & ice here in Texas.

 

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Strike Team Comanche

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*** Isn't the chimp in the new film supposed to have green eyes as one of
their little "nods" to the originals? ***



In a message dated 2/5/2011 6:13:39 AM Central Standard Time,
johnroche49@... writes:

> Wouldn't it be cool if, in some way, the new movie could give a nod to
> the red, green and tan colours from Conquest?

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That's what the script said but who knows what's been changed? The script is supposedly great but the one I read was mediocre. A lot can change in making a film. I think a green eyed ape would be too distracting. I had enough trouble with the multi-colored eyes of Burton's apes.



From: mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 12:05 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] New Movie Colours



*** Isn't the chimp in the new film supposed to have green eyes as one of
their little "nods" to the originals? ***

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:05 PM, <mlccougar@...> wrote:

*** Isn't the chimp in the new film supposed to have green eyes as one of
their little "nods" to the originals? ***

In a message dated 2/5/2011 6:13:39 AM Central Standard Time,

johnroche49@... writes:

> Wouldn't it be cool if, in some way, the new movie could give a nod to
> the red, green and tan colours from Conquest?

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>
> That's what the script said but who knows what's been changed? The script is supposedly great but the one I read was mediocre. A lot can change in making a film. I think a green eyed ape would be too distracting. I had enough trouble with the multi-colored eyes of Burton's apes.
>
>

Didn't Zira have blue eyes?


Graham F

Touche. : (


From: gort65
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 6:13 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: New Movie Colours

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> That's what the script said but who knows what's been changed? The script is supposedly great but the one I read was mediocre. A lot can change in making a film. I think a green eyed ape would be too distracting. I had enough trouble with the multi-colored eyes of Burton's apes.
>
>

Didn't Zira have blue eyes?

Graham F

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Love the ad. Thanks William!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
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> dear group, i found some great photos on planet plus a planet ad from april 68. enjoy from william burge
>

They can be more ambiguous then calling it the greatest script they ever read (Tom Felton). John Lithgow was doing back flips for it on Twitter. He doesn't have to do that (he got rich on a sitcom). I think their reaction is genuine. Lithgow says they were receiving new pages on the set so it sounds like it was definitely worked on since the January draft that made the rounds. It's ultimately the director's vision so maybe he did bring something unique to it. We'll find out this year if they're right or not.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 9:14 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: New Movie Colours






The script is supposedly great but the one I read was mediocre.
Who says it's great? We've had statements like this from the members of the cast -- BUT WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO SAY?
They're working actors who want to keep working, so of course, the script is great, the director is great, all the other actors are great. It's really just so much B.S.

Hopefully this movie will be better than average in an industry that's mostly been pumping out crap for the last few years, with 20th Century Fox having one of the worst years in its history last year. Fox isn't really that creatively healthy a studio right now.

As I've said before, just keep your fingers crossed. I just wish it was still set for a June release, as June isn't that far away. Now we have to wait until November. OK, whatever, but if this film gets pushed back again, until like February 2012, then look out -- that'll mean things aren't good.

-- Rory

Well, since you brought him up...the guy's nuts! He did a "Three's Company" exhibit at Sundance, now he's in talks to develop a play based on "Three's Company", he's going to do "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" on Broadway with Nicole Kidman, he's slated to direct two features this year (not the Sal Mineo thing), OZ, etc. etc. etc. He's becoming like Marvin the Martian in those cartoons, he keeps turning up. He's becoming a cliché. Hopefully he'll take some time to promote "Apes" (maybe he'll mention it on "General Hospital").
"127 Hrs." comes out on DVD the Tuesday after the Oscars. Seen it. ; )




From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 10:05 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] (OT) SNL makes fun of Franco




Did anyone else see SNL last night making fun of James Franco. (No, there was no mention of POTA) This guy is all over the place these days. I've just read at Aintitcool that he may play the Wizard in Sam Raimi's new OZ movie. I'm beginning to worry that by the time RISE comes out, people will be sick of Franco.

Oh, BTW.... I think 127 HOURS will be out on Blu-ray and DVD in a month!

-- Rory

Here's the Franco clip (along with the "Wayne's World" clip; they knew Heston personally - - aka "Wayne's World 2").

http://collider.com/saturday-night-live-dana-carvey-highlights/74848/#more-74848


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 10:05 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] (OT) SNL makes fun of Franco




Did anyone else see SNL last night making fun of James Franco. (No, there was no mention of POTA) This guy is all over the place these days. I've just read at Aintitcool that he may play the Wizard in Sam Raimi's new OZ movie. I'm beginning to worry that by the time RISE comes out, people will be sick of Franco.

Oh, BTW.... I think 127 HOURS will be out on Blu-ray and DVD in a month!

-- Rory

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>>I understand how people don't want to torrent it and have talked

with Hunter about it.

However I would imagine that there's people who are PC Computer savvy and to them it';s a very simple process.

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>>There's a guy doing a space 1999 project called Space 2099 which is

basically updating the eps to make them more snappier.

http://www.space209 9.com/ <<

>>BTW, what new Space: 1999 release? <<

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

>
>
> I thought this was kind of interesting:
>
> http://news.discovery.com/space/dont-panic-betelgeuse-wont-explode-in-2012.html"
>
> Really don't understand what everyone's so worried about -- it won't destroy the earth, though that's what a certain person named Patrick once said,
> but it would be ironic if it did, especially this year with a new POTA movie coming out, but since it's 640 light-years away, we'd all be long dead before anyone on earth knew about it -- in fact, it could already have happened.
>
> -- Rory
>

Hmm... if it's already gone up, Phyllis and Jinn will be certain it was a practical joke for sure.


Graham F

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Hazel.  They felt since she was the only

featured female ape it would be alright.

I think it was more of a concession to

keep Kim.  The last thing they wanted

was to make her wear contact too.

 

 

In a message dated 2/5/2011 8:16:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, gort65@... writes:

Didn't Zira have blue eyes?

Graham F

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:

>
>
> Hazel. They felt since she was the only
> featured female ape it would be alright.
> I think it was more of a concession to
> keep Kim. The last thing they wanted
> was to make her wear contact too.
>

You know, that's what I felt was the case when looking at pictures of Zira after being informed a while ago on various sites that Zira had blue eyes. Despite that, I felt that maybe I was just wrong and that they were blue; I mean, there are plenty of people in the world who know more than I do (more then I'm comfortable with). ;) Maybe I should believe my own eyes more than Internet sites. Now I'm worried about my apparent sheeplike disposition. ;)

So, how is it that a few sites claim she has blue eyes when they look hazel? For example, from The Sacred Scrolls Wiki site: "Ape actors were usually required to wear brown contact lenses if their eyes were not suitably dark, but Zira remained blue-eyed, as make-up designer John Chambers explained, "We all thought it would add a 'human' touch".[3]" (http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Zira_%28APJ%29)


Graham F

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"Michael Eury, the editor of Back Issue magazine for TwoMorrows Publishing, is preparing something special for Planet of the Apes fans in July 2011: an issue partially devoted to the Apes franchise. Eury says the POTA coverage will be based on the Planet of the Apes chapter of his book, Comics Gone Ape! (TwoMorrows Publishing, April 2007), and incorporates many quotes from comics legend Doug Moench regarding his work on Marvel Comics' popular POTA magazine of the 1970s."

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Footage from the upcoming TV show "Terra Nova" was shown tonight during the Super Bowl so let's talk Chernin! Peter Chernin used to run Fox, then he was # 2 at the whole News Corp. under Rupert Murdoch. Now he runs Chernin Entertainment and this here "Terra Nova" is their first production. Their first movie is something called "Rise of the Apes". ; ) So what say we take a look at "Terra Nova" :

http://www.slashfilm.com/terra-nova-super-bowl-commercial/

Scary, huh? And now here's Peter Chernin talking to the "Wall Street Journal" about it, in which he says, "The quality and complexity of the storytelling is what attracted us to this series and that's exactly what we look for in other projects we are developing". By inference he's referring to "Rise of the Apes". ; ) But why should we believe him? He's a suit and suits lie! >: ( But he's also Mr. Fox and knows how to work it. He's made his dough and now he wants to work on his legacy, meaning quality flicks that will be remembered. ; )

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/01/21/terra-nova-is-it-tvs-waterworld-or-avatar/

Yes, Peter Chernin. That's not a hard name to remember if "Rise of the Apes" sucks. >: (

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1858656/

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I'm not sure where this blue eyed Zira

thing started.  It says in her own book

her eyes are hazel.  Maybe in some of

the photos they seem blue.  But then I

read some of the most ridiculous things

about POTA and I have no idea where

they get them from.  I've read all sorts

of weird locations from all over the

world, and yet we all know where

it was shot.  Don't believe what

you read and only half of what

you see, as the saying goes.

 

In a message dated 2/6/2011 6:42:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, gort65@... writes:

You know, that's what I felt was the case when looking at pictures of Zira after being informed a while ago on various sites that Zira had blue eyes.

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Didn't Maurice Evans have blue eyes?

I can't imagine being smothered in

all that makeup and costume and

have to wear those old contacts

too, where even your eyes

can't breath.  Torture!

 

 

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I've sometimes imagined what other actors from the era might have been good to play Zira.  Natalie Wood had brown eyes and was small, but they couldn't have afforded her salary.  Nancy Kwan would also have been good, though her voice would have been a problem.

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I totally agree---sometimes the script can just be a jumping off point and provided it's fairly solid to start with it can act as a good foundation.A prime example would be the Crosby and Hope 'Road To..' films---when a writer visited the set one day, Hope told him to shout out 'Bingo!' if he heard a line he'd written.I really, really hope that Rise is a good movie with wide appeal.There's so much scope for sequels if they get it right and if they balls it up this time, it's hard to see where we go from there.No pressure guys! As for colours, what I was thinking was something subtle like, maybe, cage door signs reflecting species with colour tags.Anything TOO cheesy is re-treading Burton's wonky path! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> They can be more ambiguous then calling it the greatest script they ever read (Tom Felton). John Lithgow was doing back flips for it on Twitter. He doesn't have to do that (he got rich on a sitcom). I think their reaction is genuine. Lithgow says they were receiving new pages on the set so it sounds like it was definitely worked on since the January draft that made the rounds. It's ultimately the director's vision so maybe he did bring something unique to it. We'll find out this year if they're right or not.
>
>

I think it's a good omen that the GREEN Bay Packers triumphed in the year when the GREEN species Caesar will be triumphing at the box office.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Footage from the upcoming TV show "Terra Nova" was shown tonight during the Super Bowl so let's talk Chernin! Peter Chernin used to run Fox, then he was # 2 at the whole News Corp. under Rupert Murdoch. Now he runs Chernin Entertainment and this here "Terra Nova" is their first production. Their first movie is something called "Rise of the Apes". ; ) So what say we take a look at "Terra Nova" :
>
> http://www.slashfilm.com/terra-nova-super-bowl-commercial/
>
> Scary, huh? And now here's Peter Chernin talking to the "Wall Street Journal" about it, in which he says, "The quality and complexity of the storytelling is what attracted us to this series and that's exactly what we look for in other projects we are developing". By inference he's referring to "Rise of the Apes". ; ) But why should we believe him? He's a suit and suits lie! >: ( But he's also Mr. Fox and knows how to work it. He's made his dough and now he wants to work on his legacy, meaning quality flicks that will be remembered. ; )
>
> http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/01/21/terra-nova-is-it-tvs-waterworld-or-avatar/
>
> Yes, Peter Chernin. That's not a hard name to remember if "Rise of the Apes" sucks. >: (
>
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1858656/
>

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In tonight's episode ("Keep Out!"), they come across a thermos (minus the
cap), and then later find the lunch box on the same property. And in an
episode from a few weeks back ("Trading Up") you see the reissued
Cornelius model from a few years back in the first house they go to-
where they also happen to pick up a Mobile Bat Lab (Mego) with the
original box for **$20** (grrrrrrr!!!!!). It also had a few figures and
some costumes in it as well. I saw that same item up for auction on eBay
this past summer, but it got way out of my price range.

To quote Rick from Pawn Stars: "Why can't I find sh!t like that?".

History repeats the episodes often, so a quick look on TVGuide.com should
help you find the next showtime, plus you can see recent episodes on
History on Demand as well.


Chris L.

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And the second chapter of Future History Chronicles in Marvel's mag (#15)is a direct homage to Verne's Captain Nemo. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> On Feb. 8 1828, French sci-fi founding member Jules Verne was born.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jules_Verne
>
> Exactly 140 years later on Feb. 8 1968, the original POTA movie, based on French sci-fi, opened. I can dig it.
>

Rich's book is the gift that keeps on giving.I now know that the gorilla who escorts Galen and Burke's wagon when they steal the medical book from Zaius is called Chester! If you haven't yet gotten hold of this Holy Tome, do yourself a favour---get it now.It's an absolute treasure trove of Apey goodness! John, Scrolls.