I Agree.

*** That's kind of what I think of this film myself... ***



In a message dated 2/18/2011 4:53:36 AM Central Standard Time,
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> I'm out of this "Project X" remake.

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Enjoy...

http://www.hassleinbooks.com/patricio-carbajal-planet-of-the-apes-lexicon-artwork.html"

Thankyou, Ballard.Yet again you ruin my public reputation.I was viewing your link in a p[ublic place, scrolled down, only to display the nudes below.I am now, officially, the library pervert.I hope you're proud.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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> <http://causticcovercritic.blogspot.com/2010/10/ape-with-cigar-in-your-face.html">
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> Dave B
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Got to say, I also prefer the first version---can't fathom why they'd go with second version.First one leaps out.Maybe they don't want the Chimp obscured, but the first one is a great cover.As I understand it, the two covers are not straight alternates, but cover B (this one?) will be a deasler incentive bonus, depending on numbers of cover A ordered.In other words, it may be difficult to find.If anybody wants to tell BOOM!, Scrolls will selflessly offer to use the original cover B as a cover.We're big like that! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:
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> I like the first one the best.
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Don't lose the faith Alex.We waited a quarter of a century for a new Apes movie.And then it was crap.This new one will be brilliant and will revive the greatest series ever.Guaranteed.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> Alex, you sound like you're off your meds or something. RISE is a PROJECT X remake?!!!! That's the kind of thing I'd expect to read in the comments section at Aintitcool.com. You're no seeker -- you're negative! Take a happy pill and think things over.
>
> Anyway....
>
> I wouldn't get too excited about this OZ thing. This time they plan on having the flying monkeys come out of Franco's butt.
>

Wouldn't it be cool if Patricio could do a BOOM! cover, too? The guy has that (rare) ability to give Ape faces real 'life'.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
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> Enjoy...
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> http://www.hassleinbooks.com/patricio-carbajal-planet-of-the-apes-lexicon-artwork.html"
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William,

Again thank you so much for finding thes articles and sharing them with group. I remember the 1973 marathons very well. The first one was done the day before Battle opened. Unfortunately, I couldn't go to that and was very upset at the time. Luckily, the first one did so well, they did it another marathon about 2 weeks later which I was able to attend.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
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> dear group, i found a trade ad for battle from box office magazine july2,1973- battle ape article from aug 13,1973 --then another article from oct 1,1973 on the ape marathon being shown . enjoy from william burge plus an ad from fantastic voyage that got fox to go ahead to produce planet.
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I hope this doesn't give FOX any ideas for Rise. ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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> <http://causticcovercritic.blogspot.com/2010/10/ape-with-cigar-in-your-face.htmlgt;
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> Dave B
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Very cool! Thanks Rich!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
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> Enjoy...
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> http://www.hassleinbooks.com/patricio-carbajal-planet-of-the-apes-lexicon-artwork.htmlbr>>

But what about all those over times you were caught viewing nudes in the library? LOL

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Thankyou, Ballard.Yet again you ruin my public reputation.I was viewing your link in a p[ublic place, scrolled down, only to display the nudes below.I am now, officially, the library pervert.I hope you're proud.John, Scrolls.
>

Finally airing a POTA film when it is not the middle of the night!

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Here my thought about why they didn't use the first one, the image of a male Chimp carrying a Human woman may conjure up too many sexual undertones that the creators didn't want. The other ones are less threatening in that regard.

And you thought you were the library pervert ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Got to say, I also prefer the first version---can't fathom why they'd go with second version.First one leaps out.Maybe they don't want the Chimp obscured, but the first one is a great cover.As I understand it, the two covers are not straight alternates, but cover B (this one?) will be a deasler incentive bonus, depending on numbers of cover A ordered.In other words, it may be difficult to find.If anybody wants to tell BOOM!, Scrolls will selflessly offer to use the original cover B as a cover.We're big like that! John, Scrolls.
>

Here's an idea for those of you who like to make music videos (cos' I can't). I was just listening to Peter Gabriel's Shock the Monkey and had flashbacks to Ceaser being tortured on the electrocution table in Conquest. Someone should make a music video compilation with this song !!........just a thought ;)

Ian

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A CGI video clip.

Destiny of the Planet of the Apes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjdzzNwKviA

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

> I'm disappointed too that it's not coming out in June.

Still, I'd much rather they keep delaying it for as long as they need to in order to get the best movie they can make.

Dave

I've spoken to Security at your local Library and managed to resolve this unfortunate little misunderstanding. They tell me you are now welcome to return and continue to use the public computers... but in future can you refrain from doing so whilst naked.

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Thankyou, Ballard.Yet again you ruin my public reputation.I was viewing your link in a p[ublic place, scrolled down, only to display the nudes below.I am now, officially, the library pervert.I hope you're proud.John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@> wrote:
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> > <http://causticcovercritic.blogspot.com/2010/10/ape-with-cigar-in-your-face.html">
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> > Dave B
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Whilst!?!?! WHILST!!!! What is this the freakin' king's speech? What have I told you about speaking that snobby british english! Only proper american engish is to be spoken here, ain't nothing else allowed! :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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> I've spoken to Security at your local Library and managed to resolve this unfortunate little misunderstanding. They tell me you are now welcome to return and continue to use the public computers... but in future can you refrain from doing so whilst naked.
>
> Dave
>

Alex , sorry for your given up I understand its a hard job, Web host or whatever its called, but Ill miss your sites cause they were the best.
People here with this bad attitude (Im guilty also, thats why I havent posted for a few months) and November gripping are bringing me down again, unless its about comics and stuff that doesnt interest original fans like me all that much and personally I feel all this periferal ape product is childish and I dont want to insult anyone but most of the old fans since the sixties in my case liked the science and music and history of the Apes. The merchandising (Toys, silly comics, etc.) sometimes brings down the apes films and are just barnacles attacched to a good product. My opinion and I dont mean any ill will. Apes were never about comics and toys as such, just good movie making and thats how come all the periferial stuff (comics, toys) started, the films were great and thought provoking even at their cheapest. The word is great on this new apes film and it is sincere as compared to the 2001 film where no one said the script was great and blah, blah, and its a film I feel that can combine the two versions, Burtons and the originals. I think the space program in this film is suppose to be robust and during this time the U.S. send out a mothership with experimenting apes and so on in outer space for whatever reason (Burtons Film) and at the same time the experiments and this new "Birth of the Planet of the Apes" are going on here and create the Apes we know and love. Their are now two(2) planets with talking Apes and it can be very fascinating.
We heard that it was supposed to be a new set of films tied to the originals but a cast member and some techs leaked out that it ties in both Apes mythology and I feel that can work as I said.
I was very excited about this new film and ironically its an Apes web site thats bringing me down. C'mon and lets get primmed up for it ends so fast and if we dont care for it what about the average smoe?...Take care, John M.

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Martin Scorsese's 3D extravaganza "Hugo Cabaret" has been announced for release during Thanksgiving 2011, where it will face merciless competition from "Rise of the Apes" and (*yawn*) the new Muppet movie. In a statement released today, Caesar said to Scorsese: "You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me? You talkin' TO ME?".
Caesar reportedly got into a bar fight with Muppet star Kermit the Frog last weekend where he was heard to say, "Kermit, you'll discover that it's not easy earning green when you go up against me! I'll be having frog legs for Thanksgiving!"
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I looked at the schedule and it turns out the same week as "Rise" there's a movie coming out called "Project X". : )


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 8:33 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: OT: James Franco the new Wizard of Oz




Alex, you sound like you're off your meds or something. RISE is a PROJECT X remake?!!!! That's the kind of thing I'd expect to read in the comments section at Aintitcool.com. You're no seeker -- you're negative! Take a happy pill and think things over.

Anyway....

I wouldn't get too excited about this OZ thing. This time they plan on having the flying monkeys come out of Franco's butt.

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I forgot my 3d specs--does this image actually appear 3d if you put the glasses on with a computer screen? Please bear in mind that my reputation is shot anyway at the library, so suddenly putting on funny glasses may get me arrested.John., Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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> I've spoken to Security at your local Library and managed to resolve this unfortunate little misunderstanding. They tell me you are now welcome to return and continue to use the public computers... but in future can you refrain from doing so whilst naked.
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> Dave
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If the Simpsons does "Rise of the Apes: the musical", we're ready.

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/awards-campaign-2009/posts/oscar-watch-james-franco-sings-chers-you-havent-seen-the-last-of-me

I asked the poster if they could subtitle it since there's no sound.
They said they liked the idea, but they were working on their other
film, and would have to work on that as time permits.

T

Anyone have any more info on this ?

 

Robert Mansell

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Mansell <robert.mansell@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 22, 2011 3:15 am
Subject: [pota] Salvation for the Planet of the Apes

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQp0iWk6lvI&feature=related

 

Anyone have any more info on this ?

 

Robert Mansell

Im Hatter76, Im am the one making this movie.

I do have original projects I want to do, but no budget and some health problems have stood in the way.

Im aware that it looks like a Videogame, But I don't exactly have money to put into this project, and Im not a a professional.

However this is a serious project and not simply for fun, there is a story, which I will not reveal, recreating certain scenes has to do with the story.

this is intended to be a 6th chapter to the original films.

I'm really encouraged by this 'Franco everywhere' phenomenon (apologies to all Catalans out there).James Franco is getting so popular that he seems able to 'open' the new Apes movie on his lonesome, even without the juggernaut of publicity that will surely come for the movie.He could be the magic ingredient to really shoot Apes back to the top---an Armando for a new generation? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> If the Simpsons does "Rise of the Apes: the musical", we're ready.
>
> http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/awards-campaign-2009/posts/oscar-watch-james-franco-sings-chers-you-havent-seen-the-last-of-me
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Welcome. Please tell us more about this project. How far is it along? When does it take place?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronhatter" <ronhatter@...> wrote:
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> Im Hatter76, Im am the one making this movie.
>
> I do have original projects I want to do, but no budget and some health problems have stood in the way.
>
> Im aware that it looks like a Videogame, But I don't exactly have money to put into this project, and Im not a a professional.
>
> However this is a serious project and not simply for fun, there is a story, which I will not reveal, recreating certain scenes has to do with the story.
>
> this is intended to be a 6th chapter to the original films.
>

I believe that was a student film done back in the '70s featuring Bill Blake and Paula Christ.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Mansell" <robert.mansell@...> wrote:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQp0iWk6lvI&feature=related
>
> Anyone have any more info on this ?
>
> Robert Mansell
>

The Script is still in progress, but it is progressing quickly, CG Models are still being created and refined.

The Story takes place in 3 different time periods, but the core Story takes place about 20 years After "Battle"

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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>
> Welcome. Please tell us more about this project. How far is it along?
> When does it take place?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ronhatter" <ronhatter@> wrote:
> >
> > Im Hatter76, Im am the one making this movie.
> >
> > I do have original projects I want to do, but no budget and some
> health problems have stood in the way.
> >
> > Im aware that it looks like a Videogame, But I don't exactly have
> money to put into this project, and Im not a a professional.
> >
> > However this is a serious project and not simply for fun, there is a
> story, which I will not reveal, recreating certain scenes has to do with
> the story.
> >
> > this is intended to be a 6th chapter to the original films.
> >
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> It'll be interesting to hear what others here have to say.

I like Landis, and I enjoyed these, but you're right about the
misinformation. Still, they were entertaining enough....

Hunter

This is reportedly the first released image from "Rise of the Apes" (just Franco doing his thing). Why this image? Why now? Dunno, but maybe there's more to come soon. It wouldn't hurt to prime the pump and get some interest going. This film is still suffering from who cares?/Burton reflex.

http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=36158

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Too bad. There's a lonely "Rise of the Apes" image looking for a home on a "Rise of the Apes" website but Al's put up a "No Vacancy" sign.
So sad. : (


From: Alex Ruiz
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:37 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] 1st official "Rise" image




You forgot to mention "Spoiler Alert", Sir.
Now I know the whole freakin movie! Damn! >:o(

Just kidding. Thanks. :o)

Al

Rise seems to be suffering from media strangulation.SCI FI Now mag last year had an article on Rise, but the 'campaign' in the meantime has been bitterly disappointing.Part of the fun of a new movie is the frenzy of expectation I get whipped up into by the media.Of course there's the crashing feeling of self loathing after the disappointing climax of actually seeing the film, especially Burton's effort.In many ways, the build up is the best bit.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
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> You forgot to mention "Spoiler Alert", Sir.
> Now I know the whole freakin movie! Damn! >:o(
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> Just kidding. Thanks. :o)
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> Al
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In the UK this year we have our ten yearly census.For the past two times, under 'Religion', I have put down 'Jedi', as have about 400 thousand other sad geeks.This time, because it might be the last census they do,apparently, I'd like to do an Apes-themed religion.I had thought of 'Apostle of the Lawgiver' or 'Worshipper of the Sacred Scrolls', but neither really scream 'APES'.Any suggestions for a title for the Ape Faith? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:

>
> In the UK this year we have our ten yearly census.For the past two times, under 'Religion', I have put down 'Jedi', as have about 400 thousand other sad geeks.This time, because it might be the last census they do,apparently, I'd like to do an Apes-themed religion.I had thought of 'Apostle of the Lawgiver' or 'Worshipper of the Sacred Scrolls', but neither really scream 'APES'.Any suggestions for a title for the Ape Faith? John, Scrolls.
>

Oh no, another ten years of my life has passed! How about "The Keepers of the Divine Bomb"? Then again, it might attract the interests of MI5, with all the bomb talk. ;)


Graham F

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It was interesting but he really got a lot of facts wrong. He must think it was Edward G. Robinson's zombie that appeared in Soylent Green.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
>
> > It'll be interesting to hear what others here have to say.
>
> I like Landis, and I enjoyed these, but you're right about the
> misinformation. Still, they were entertaining enough....
>
> Hunter
>

Wow! I'm a bit shocked they ask religion. They don't ask that here.

Anyway my suggestions are Simiantology or Caesaranity.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> In the UK this year we have our ten yearly census.For the past two times, under 'Religion', I have put down 'Jedi', as have about 400 thousand other sad geeks.This time, because it might be the last census they do,apparently, I'd like to do an Apes-themed religion.I had thought of 'Apostle of the Lawgiver' or 'Worshipper of the Sacred Scrolls', but neither really scream 'APES'.Any suggestions for a title for the Ape Faith? John, Scrolls.
>

BTW Congrats John for posting the 62000th message on the group. 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I'm really encouraged by this 'Franco everywhere' phenomenon (apologies to all Catalans out there).James Franco is getting so popular that he seems able to 'open' the new Apes movie on his lonesome, even without the juggernaut of publicity that will surely come for the movie.He could be the magic ingredient to really shoot Apes back to the top---an Armando for a new generation? John, Scrolls.
>

November is 8 months away and I definitly do not feel that Fox is doing anything wrong or that publicity is slow or anemic. In my opinion they are waiting for the CGI apes to be completed and then the push will be on. I feel that push will not start till the late summer as is the case for Fall-Late Fall movie releases. This panic is definitly Burton-itis and he really did alot of damage to the Apes mythos. If we dont write more positive posts, and remember that everyone involved is incredidibly excited and positive about script/effects and I dont feel its just part of their job(I dont remember anybody praising the Burton film before release except of their love of working with him),
Its only February, everybody relax. Remember the original 1968 Apes came out in the no mans land of February 8th. No holidays no nothing and look what happened. A November thanksgiving release will go on till New Years with even the slighlist "legs". The greatest movies come out without summer help(atleast in the past) and to me this is nothing to be concerned about.
It will take till the summer until we see anything as close to a teaser trailer or photos and legit articles in major rags and TV.
Remember they are redoing Planet (1968) and I hope evntually all the original films at that resoration house in California, their are these comics(which dosnt fascinate me) a new Apes film with what seems to be good if not great writing so lets not act like a bunch of downers, its depressing. If this film fails it wont be because its a bad film it will be because the public just dosnt know what they want as Apes go..Fox is in a tough spot and for the first time im proud, for lack of a better word, of them......John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> BTW Congrats John for posting the 62000th message on the group.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm really encouraged by this 'Franco everywhere' phenomenon
> (apologies to all Catalans out there).James Franco is getting so popular
> that he seems able to 'open' the new Apes movie on his lonesome, even
> without the juggernaut of publicity that will surely come for the
> movie.He could be the magic ingredient to really shoot Apes back to the
> top---an Armando for a new generation? John, Scrolls.
> >
>

"Simiantology"? Sounds like one step above some of the language in
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> Anyway my suggestions are Simiantology or Caesaranity.

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By AMAZING coincidence, 62000 is my lucky number!John,Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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>
> BTW Congrats John for posting the 62000th message on the group.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm really encouraged by this 'Franco everywhere' phenomenon
> (apologies to all Catalans out there).James Franco is getting so popular
> that he seems able to 'open' the new Apes movie on his lonesome, even
> without the juggernaut of publicity that will surely come for the
> movie.He could be the magic ingredient to really shoot Apes back to the
> top---an Armando for a new generation? John, Scrolls.
> >
>

You're saying I have to wait until the fall for Rise.Now my head hurts.Seriously, though, maybe I AM being a tad impatient, so I'll calm down.I'm strangely really excited about this one, because it doesn't have to ignore/mess with continuity, like Burton did.I was reading an interview in Docytor Who Magazine where Matt Smith the (excellent!!)new Doctor had Tim Burton as his fantasy director for an episode.Be very careful what you wish for, Doctor....John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Rise seems to be suffering from media strangulation.SCI FI Now mag last year had an article on Rise, but the 'campaign' in the meantime has been bitterly disappointing.Part of the fun of a new movie is the frenzy of expectation I get whipped up into by the media.Of course there's the crashing feeling of self loathing after the disappointing climax of actually seeing the film, especially Burton's effort.In many ways, the build up is the best bit.John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
>
> These are early days. I don't believe we should be hearing too much about this movie just yet. Some aspect of it could get bad word of month and that the studio wouldn't want to spend months fighting it. Better to keep it quite until the publicity machine is ready to start up -- and that will come.
>
> My sense is that there's high expectations and great curiosity about this thing, and that Fox is going to make a great deal noise about it -- just don't expect much until the fall.
>
> -- Rory
>

Well, I prefer Simiantology to Caesaranity, which sounds more like a difficult birth.And yes, anything with 'Bomb'in is out as, even though it's confidential, just because you're paranoid doen't mean they're not watching you.The religion question over here is voluntary and years back the Jedi campaign got going to get enough numbers to be officially classed as a religion.Last time out, there was a BIG row in Wales, because , under 'Race', you could put English, Irish, Indian eytc, but NOT Welsh.My wife blew a gasket, being Welsh, and we acquired stickers to stick on, with the Welsh option added.This, we were then told, was criminal defacement of an official census , and a crime.Thousands did it anyway.I had no excuse, as I stuck on the sticker that added in 'Welsh' and then ticked 'Irish'anyway.I know Zira would have done something similar! Simiantology it is! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
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> "Simiantology"? Sounds like one step above some of the language in
> RETURN...
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/25/2011 9:13:45 AM Central Standard Time,
> JamesA1102@... writes:
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Why, I don't know, but I've been re-watching the Apes animated series lately.When you take it for what it is, and expunge some of the silly stuff, it's actually quite a deep story for a cartoon.I almost get the feeling that the silly bits were an afterthought, to appease the kids.If re-edited, it could be a really interesting 90 minute movie.It also occurred to me that one reason they might have given the Apes technolgy was to avoid having to animate horses! Still, it's definitely worth a re-look,I feel.John, Scrolls.

Snag with that is that unless you know the saga, you're not necessarily going to associate 'Lawgiver' with Apes, and I want to strike a blow for Apedom.Simiantology is still in the box seat! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Gelson Nicolini Monteiro <gelsonnicolini@...> wrote:
>
> I like : "Apostle of the Lawgiver" and "The keepers of the divine Bomb"
> My suggenstion is "Apostle of the Lawgiver".
> or
> Keepers of the Sacred Scrolls???
>

"Rise of the Apes" is 9 months away. Back to school for you!
Maybe that "Rise" photo was released as a nod to Franco being nominated for a Fox film on Sunday, but I have a feeling they are going to release more photos soon. I think the first trailer will hit with "X-Men" in early June.
As for the title of this post, reportedly Franco isn't going to sing at the Oscars now. They decided he didn't have the chops. But he tried. Their "Grease" bit was either cancelled or will be shown on film. Anyway, it'll be fun to see our "Rise" star host the Oscars.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2011/02/james-franco-anne-hathaway-recreate-grease-for-oscars/1


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:06 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: OT: James Franco sings



November is 8 months away and I definitly do not feel that Fox is doing anything wrong or that publicity is slow or anemic. In my opinion they are waiting for the CGI apes to be completed and then the push will be on. I feel that push will not start till the late summer as is the case for Fall-Late Fall movie releases. This panic is definitly Burton-itis and he really did alot of damage to the Apes mythos. If we dont write more positive posts, and remember that everyone involved is incredidibly excited and positive about script/effects and I dont feel its just part of their job(I dont remember anybody praising the Burton film before release except of their love of working with him),
Its only February, everybody relax. Remember the original 1968 Apes came out in the no mans land of February 8th. No holidays no nothing and look what happened. A November thanksgiving release will go on till New Years with even the slighlist "legs". The greatest movies come out without summer help(atleast in the past) and to me this is nothing to be concerned about.
It will take till the summer until we see anything as close to a teaser trailer or photos and legit articles in major rags and TV.
Remember they are redoing Planet (1968) and I hope evntually all the original films at that resoration house in California, their are these comics(which dosnt fascinate me) a new Apes film with what seems to be good if not great writing so lets not act like a bunch of downers, its depressing. If this film fails it wont be because its a bad film it will be because the public just dosnt know what they want as Apes go..Fox is in a tough spot and for the first time im proud, for lack of a better word, of them......John M.

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Just want to note that, yes, they ran Conquest and Battle in reverse order this morning.

Idiots!

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I believe that is exactly the reason.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Why, I don't know, but I've been re-watching the Apes animated series lately.When you take it for what it is, and expunge some of the silly stuff, it's actually quite a deep story for a cartoon.I almost get the feeling that the silly bits were an afterthought, to appease the kids.If re-edited, it could be a really interesting 90 minute movie.It also occurred to me that one reason they might have given the Apes technolgy was to avoid having to animate horses! Still, it's definitely worth a re-look,I feel.John, Scrolls.
>

What difference would it make? They only animated the mouths anyway. They probably used the vehicles and stuff because kids would think it's cool.


From: jamesa1102
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 7:37 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Animated Series




I believe that is exactly the reason.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Why, I don't know, but I've been re-watching the Apes animated series lately.When you take it for what it is, and expunge some of the silly stuff, it's actually quite a deep story for a cartoon.I almost get the feeling that the silly bits were an afterthought, to appease the kids.If re-edited, it could be a really interesting 90 minute movie.It also occurred to me that one reason they might have given the Apes technolgy was to avoid having to animate horses! Still, it's definitely worth a re-look,I feel.John, Scrolls.
>

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Joblo seems fine. Even Spielberg reads it (he said so in an interview). If it's good enough for Spielberg it's good enough for me (except Indy Jones 4).


From: chimel23@...
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:59 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: First official "Rise" image




So this Joblo.com site is safe now? My Web of Trust raised a warning when I clicked, but the reports of Trojans are like two years old. No one else has had a problem, correct?

Mel

Charlie Sheen was going to star in Adam Rifkin's POTA film around 1992. That version was halted when Sheen's former boss, Oliver Stone, expressed interest in doing a POTA film. Instead, Sheen and Rifkin worked together on the 1994 Fox comedy "The Chase", which includes a clip from POTA.

http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Adam_Rifkin

James Franco won Best Actor from the Independent Spirit Awards tonight for "127 Hrs". Will he win the Oscar tomorrow? Colin F-F-F-Firth is considered a lock for "The King's Speech" but it ain't over until Oprah sings.
You can catch Franco's Oscar-nominated performance in "127 Hrs." on DVD next Tuesday. I just picked it up from my fine DVD rental establishment. Gonna watch it. ; )

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Landis says at that point J. Lee Thompson "just didn't care". Well, he sure sounds like he cared in "Behind the POTA" but his hands were tied by the budget. Too bad they couldn't have told Fox, "We made you a lot of money with these so give us a fair shake or we quit". Arthur owned half of POTA so I'm not sure Fox could've made it without him.
Landis also said Arthur wasn't on the set of "Battle" but there's pictures of him in "POTA Revisited".
So, it's fun to hear Landis talk about "Battle" because he was in it but it wasn't very illuminating.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:16 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"




Well, this provided two good links. Landis said about what I imagined he'd have to say about BATTLE, but I'm disappointed he didn't do the movies in order. I hope they get someone else to do ESCAPE and CONQUEST, as Landis is really so predictable and shallow.

The other link to the young geeks discussing PLANET was nice, but again they don't say anything that deep, but it's nice to know how well liked the original is. It's truly one of the best SF films ever made, and I hope it gets a lot in new attention this November.

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So did anyone catch the Oscars when they showed Andy Serkis on one side of the screen moving his mouth and the CGI Gorilla Ape on the other side of the screen ? Could that really be the first look at how Caesar will look?
If so imo it is horrible.It was what I feared they would go for, a real Ape look instead of the amazing look of the original Planet of the Apes.
Some fans may not care and think it is good to make them look like real Apes.
Many such as myself will hate it.The original Apes look is The Planet of the Apes imo.
We can see a realistic Gorilla or Chimp in many films.The POTA look is what separated them from King Kong, Mighty Joe and the rest of every Ape film in the world.
I have to vent because Planet of the Apes 70's films are my favorite films ever.The look is so important to me.Always wished they would bring it back or really close.The 2000 film look was passable,but I was not crazy about the film at all.
I guess the amazing Apes look of the 70's films will never be seen in a newer film again unless I become a big time director quickly.Ain't gonna happen, sorry.
Anyway it could have just been a test ,and not the final look for the film.Some may even like it., if so better for you than me.
Later Apes fans.

Being a kid at the time, I found the vehicles totally repulsive and didn't bother to watch the series.I wanted my horsies.Being older and, far, far more mature, I still want my horsies.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> What difference would it make? They only animated the mouths anyway. They probably used the vehicles and stuff because kids would think it's cool.
>
>

I see The King's Speech won four Oscars?I, personally, think this whole thing is a less than subtle manipulation of the world's media to make the British royal family appear cool in the year of the royal wedding.Isn't it just an amazing coincidence that a film about the future king's gibbering idiot of a great grandfather wins an Oscar a few weeks before that future king is going to get hitched to the latest royal brood mare? Stinks--and Hollywood bought it! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> James Franco won Best Actor from the Independent Spirit Awards tonight for "127 Hrs". Will he win the Oscar tomorrow? Colin F-F-F-Firth is considered a lock for "The King's Speech" but it ain't over until Oprah sings.
> You can catch Franco's Oscar-nominated performance in "127 Hrs." on DVD next Tuesday. I just picked it up from my fine DVD rental establishment. Gonna watch it. ; )
>

It's so ironic that clips from this year's Oscars on Yahoo are preceeded by a Chrysler commerical that states, "What ever happened to style?", "Where's the glamour gone?"

From Melissa Leo's trailer park acceptence speech to Franco's Pinapple Express adittude.

This year's Oscars may have been for "the young and hip", buy why must it be presented to the like of "Jersey Shore?"

If I were FOX I'd be thinking about pushing back "Rise of the Apes" even further - at least until its star(?) evolved a bit more to being a human-being rather that trying to act like one.

I never like him to begin with, finding his lack of delivery annoying. Now that he's proved how little he can even present himself he's only proven my lack of respect.

As with Tim Burton there were better directors that could have been chosen... with better actors why the hell did they pick this talentless low life.

To compare those who were attached to the classic APE films to what will follow says it all.
- Scott B

In the good old days "men" and "Women"(25-60) were running the show weather acting writing or directing. We are in this lame youth market that has no precident. Not even back in the Beatle days when everyone wanted to be young and looked ridiculous doing it has this young obsesion been seen.
The actors in films in the second golden age of film (Late 60s-1980) were adults that did some living and writers that went through WWII and the Blacklist, civil rights and so much more and so their product was much more intelligent and preceient.
Why do we cater to this ultra young market (15-30), ticket sales cannot be the only answer and if it is big budget sci-fi and action will forever be infantile.
It takes a fighter to get a smart and action oriented film with real dialouge with irony, sybolism, and issues to think about. If that age is over then a new Apes film coming anywhere close to the original Planet or Escape or Conquest is over and I for one cant see with all the money Fox has in its couffers cant make an intelligent film even if it just barely makes even.
Im still positive with the "NEW" film and hope it happens the right way and does not embarress the legacy of the originals. The word on it is still very positive and the people involved are still top notch-to a point- and I hope it shows on the screen.
Anyway I hope we get to purchase a new restored POTA68 from that company and maybe they will do the rest of the series. I guess the new film will have to do great business before thats done. What a silly business, where are all the mavericks....John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "digitalcinema" <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> It's so ironic that clips from this year's Oscars on Yahoo are preceeded by a Chrysler commerical that states, "What ever happened to style?", "Where's the glamour gone?"
>
> From Melissa Leo's trailer park acceptence speech to Franco's Pinapple Express adittude.
>
> This year's Oscars may have been for "the young and hip", buy why must it be presented to the like of "Jersey Shore?"
>
> If I were FOX I'd be thinking about pushing back "Rise of the Apes" even further - at least until its star(?) evolved a bit more to being a human-being rather that trying to act like one.
>
> I never like him to begin with, finding his lack of delivery annoying. Now that he's proved how little he can even present himself he's only proven my lack of respect.
>
> As with Tim Burton there were better directors that could have been chosen... with better actors why the hell did they pick this talentless low life.
>
> To compare those who were attached to the classic APE films to what will follow says it all.
> - Scott B
>

Not to be stupid, but these are films yes?  Not DVD presentations right? --- On Sun, 2/27/11, lawford42@... <lawford42@...> wrote: From: lawford42@... <lawford42@...> Subject: [pota] Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 3:49 PM   Anyone here planning on going?   They're also showing 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Andromeda Strain, and The Day the Earth Stood Still. Looks like I'm making a few trips in April...   I also just e-mailed them making a case for showing BENEATH as well. Nothing to lose by trying.     Chris L.       "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:   >>http://bethelwoodsc enter.org/ bwevents/ eventdetail. aspx?id=170 <<

I agree about the look of the original Apes films and such but if the scientist in the new movie is just making his breakthroughs his Apes cant look to evolved until the sequels I would assume. If they look silly and it doesnt work then their will be no sequels. Cought between arock and a hard place I guess. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Trin" <theskulpter@...> wrote:
>
> So did anyone catch the Oscars when they showed Andy Serkis on one side of the screen moving his mouth and the CGI Gorilla Ape on the other side of the screen ? Could that really be the first look at how Caesar will look?
> If so imo it is horrible.It was what I feared they would go for, a real Ape look instead of the amazing look of the original Planet of the Apes.
> Some fans may not care and think it is good to make them look like real Apes.
> Many such as myself will hate it.The original Apes look is The Planet of the Apes imo.
> We can see a realistic Gorilla or Chimp in many films.The POTA look is what separated them from King Kong, Mighty Joe and the rest of every Ape film in the world.
> I have to vent because Planet of the Apes 70's films are my favorite films ever.The look is so important to me.Always wished they would bring it back or really close.The 2000 film look was passable,but I was not crazy about the film at all.
> I guess the amazing Apes look of the 70's films will never be seen in a newer film again unless I become a big time director quickly.Ain't gonna happen, sorry.
> Anyway it could have just been a test ,and not the final look for the film.Some may even like it., if so better for you than me.
> Later Apes fans.
>

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So did anyone catch the Oscars when they showed Andy Serkis on one side of the screen moving his mouth and the CGI Gorilla Ape on the other side of the screen ? Could that really be the first look at how Caesar will look?
If so imo it is horrible.It was what I feared they would go for, a real Ape look instead of the amazing look of the original Planet of the Apes.
Some fans may not care and think it is good to make them look like real Apes.
Many such as myself will hate it.The original Apes look is The Planet of the Apes imo.
We can see a realistic Gorilla or Chimp in many films.The POTA look is what separated them from King Kong, Mighty Joe and the rest of every Ape film in the world.
I have to vent because Planet of the Apes 70's films are my favorite films ever.The look is so important to me.Always wished they would bring it back or really close.The 2000 film look was passable,but I was not crazy about the film at all.
I guess the amazing Apes look of the 70's films will never be seen in a newer film again unless I become a big time director quickly.Ain't gonna happen, sorry.
Anyway it could have just been a test ,and not the final look for the film.Some may even like it., if so better for you than me.
Later Apes fans.

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LOL! I mean AOL!
http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/oscars-intro-franco-hathaway-dream-tour/

And Franco's granny called Wahlberg "Marky Mark". Battle of the POTA remake icons.

> So did anyone catch the Oscars when they showed Andy Serkis on one
> side of the screen moving his mouth and the CGI Gorilla Ape on the
> other side of the screen ? Could that really be the first look at how
> Caesar will look?

I'm pretty sure that was a clip from Serkis's work on KING KONG.

I was happy to see THE KING'S SPEECH do so well. It deserved to.

And I was happy to see Rick Baker win again for Best Makeup, despite
the fact that the transformation clip they showed was mostly CGI (done
over Rick's protests, according to what I read when the movie came
out). Like Burton's Apes, THE WOLFMAN was a crappy movie, but Rick's
makeups were great.

And yes, I had the same thoughts about Franco. I never saw him as
leading man material, and last night doesn't inspire much confidence
that he'll be good in RISE. Of course, I have my doubts that RISE
will be any good anyway....

Hunter

Yeah, that was definitely "King Kong". For starters, Serkis doesn't play a gorilla in "Rise".

Colleen Atwood also won an Oscar last night (her 3rd?). She did the costumes for POTA2001.

And when they showed the clips from the Governor's Ball they played the "Henry V" music by Patrick "Rise of the Apes" Doyle.


From: Hunter Goatley
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:15 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?

> So did anyone catch the Oscars when they showed Andy Serkis on one
> side of the screen moving his mouth and the CGI Gorilla Ape on the
> other side of the screen ? Could that really be the first look at how
> Caesar will look?

I'm pretty sure that was a clip from Serkis's work on KING KONG.

I was happy to see THE KING'S SPEECH do so well. It deserved to.

And I was happy to see Rick Baker win again for Best Makeup, despite
the fact that the transformation clip they showed was mostly CGI (done
over Rick's protests, according to what I read when the movie came
out). Like Burton's Apes, THE WOLFMAN was a crappy movie, but Rick's
makeups were great.

And yes, I had the same thoughts about Franco. I never saw him as
leading man material, and last night doesn't inspire much confidence
that he'll be good in RISE. Of course, I have my doubts that RISE
will be any good anyway....

Hunter

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In the good old days "men" and "Women"(25-60) were running the show weather acting writing or directing. We are in this lame youth market that has no precident. Not even back in the Beatle days when everyone wanted to be young and looked ridiculous doing it has this young obsesion been seen.
The actors in films in the second golden age of film (Late 60s-1980) were adults that did some living and writers that went through WWII and the Blacklist, civil rights and so much more and so their product was much more intelligent and preceient.
Why do we cater to this ultra young market (15-30), ticket sales cannot be the only answer and if it is big budget sci-fi and action will forever be infantile.
It takes a fighter to get a smart and action oriented film with real dialouge with irony, sybolism, and issues to think about. If that age is over then a new Apes film coming anywhere close to the original Planet or Escape or Conquest is over and I for one cant see with all the money Fox has in its couffers cant make an intelligent film even if it just barely makes even.
Im still positive with the "NEW" film and hope it happens the right way and does not embarress the legacy of the originals. The word on it is still very positive and the people involved are still top notch-to a point- and I hope it shows on the screen.
Anyway I hope we get to purchase a new restored POTA68 from that company and maybe they will do the rest of the series. I guess the new film will have to do great business before thats done. What a silly business, where are all the mavericks....John M.

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