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Group: pota Message: 62167 From: William Burge Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: planet items
Group: pota Message: 62168 From: zasco1957 Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive
Group: pota Message: 62169 From: William Burge Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: on the set planet photos 1967
Group: pota Message: 62170 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
Group: pota Message: 62171 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62172 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Prequels Mania
Group: pota Message: 62173 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: on the set planet photos 1967 [2 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 62174 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Spiderman Vs Apes
Group: pota Message: 62175 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62176 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: on the set planet photos 1967 [2 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 62177 From: James Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 62178 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: on the set planet photos 1967
Group: pota Message: 62179 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive
Group: pota Message: 62180 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62181 From: William Burge Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: planet photos 1967
Group: pota Message: 62182 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
Group: pota Message: 62183 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: A Rare picture of my own
Group: pota Message: 62184 From: rassmguy Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62185 From: paisleykid1 Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
Group: pota Message: 62186 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
Group: pota Message: 62187 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
Group: pota Message: 62188 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
Group: pota Message: 62189 From: Kevin Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62190 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: 3 pictures for you
Group: pota Message: 62191 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62192 From: Pawfan Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62193 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Rise of the composer
Group: pota Message: 62194 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: 3 pictures for you [3 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 62195 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Spiderman Vs Apes
Group: pota Message: 62196 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: 3 pictures for you [3 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 62197 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: A Rare picture of my own
Group: pota Message: 62198 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62199 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: A Rare picture of my own
Group: pota Message: 62200 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: A Rare picture of my own
Group: pota Message: 62201 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: A Rare picture of my own
Group: pota Message: 62202 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Caesar sale at Amazon
Group: pota Message: 62203 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
Group: pota Message: 62204 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
Group: pota Message: 62205 From: zasco1957 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive
Group: pota Message: 62206 From: rassmguy Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62207 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62208 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62209 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62210 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive
Group: pota Message: 62211 From: William Burge Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: heston photos
Group: pota Message: 62212 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62213 From: gort65 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62214 From: William Burge Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: planet photos
Group: pota Message: 62215 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62216 From: gort65 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62217 From: zasco1957 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive
Group: pota Message: 62218 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62219 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62220 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
Group: pota Message: 62221 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62222 From: Kevin Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62223 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62224 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62225 From: gort65 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62226 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62227 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62228 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
Group: pota Message: 62229 From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
Group: pota Message: 62230 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: (OT) Kidults
Group: pota Message: 62231 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 62232 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: Re: Beneath the Planet of the Apes, 2/19/2011, 2:30 pm
Group: pota Message: 62233 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
Group: pota Message: 62234 From: johnroche49 Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: Re: Rise of the composer
Group: pota Message: 62235 From: William Burge Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: happy birthday arthur p jacobs
Group: pota Message: 62236 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: Re: Rise of the composer
Group: pota Message: 62237 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: Re: happy birthday arthur p jacobs [1 Attachment]
Group: pota Message: 62238 From: William Burge Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: heston 1967
Group: pota Message: 62239 From: William Burge Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: ape artwork
Group: pota Message: 62240 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 62241 From: johnroche49 Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Rise of the composer
Group: pota Message: 62242 From: dave Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Deviants
Group: pota Message: 62243 From: Dario Sciola Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Deviants
Group: pota Message: 62244 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
Group: pota Message: 62245 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Deviants
Group: pota Message: 62246 From: Jim Alexander Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
Group: pota Message: 62247 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
Group: pota Message: 62248 From: William Burge Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: heston photos
Group: pota Message: 62249 From: William Burge Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: roddy mcdowall
Group: pota Message: 62250 From: William Burge Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: kim hunter
Group: pota Message: 62251 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
Group: pota Message: 62252 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Rise of the composer
Group: pota Message: 62253 From: scottgeorge40 Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
Group: pota Message: 62254 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
Group: pota Message: 62255 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
Group: pota Message: 62256 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
Group: pota Message: 62257 From: johnroche49 Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: Rise of the composer
Group: pota Message: 62258 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: kim hunter [4 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 62259 From: James Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 62260 From: scottgeorge40 Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
Group: pota Message: 62261 From: scottgeorge40 Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
Group: pota Message: 62262 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
Group: pota Message: 62263 From: Jim Alexander Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Question for the experts RE: APES DVD 'Extras'
Group: pota Message: 62264 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: Question for the experts RE: APES DVD 'Extras'
Group: pota Message: 62265 From: sparkytb2005 Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Point Dume directions
Group: pota Message: 62267 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: Question for the experts RE: APES DVD 'Extras'



Group: pota Message: 62167 From: William Burge Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: planet items
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dear group, i found some great planet photos to look at. enjoy from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 62168 From: zasco1957 Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive
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This Mendez Dynasty is awesome! I can't wait to see the next installments.
Thanks for posting!

Zach




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From: jamesa1102
Date: 3/4/2011 6:11:18 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive


Happy Friday! I'm pleased to announce the first installment of: THE MENDEZ
DYNASTY, biographies of the Keepers of the Divine Bomb. Thanks to Dave
Ballard and Peter Karsten for their advice and guidance.
To view the biography of MENDEZ the first, click on the banner on the Yahoo
Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm .
Also, Brent meets MENDEZ XXVI in 'The Horror Inquisition', Part 4 of Marvel
s comic adaptation of "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" in the MARVEL ARCHIVE
.
To access the ARCHIVE click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this
link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm .
Have a great weekend everyone!
Visit all the Group's special features including:
The Internal Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers &
Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by
Virgil.
The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle
s original novel.
POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot.
The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members.
The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.
The Photos Section - POTA pics contributed by members.
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Group: pota Message: 62169 From: William Burge Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: on the set planet photos 1967
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dear group, here is two photos during the filming of planet-june 1967. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 62170 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
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Back in the day a lot of people thought of POTA as "kids' stuff" (some still do). That's why the budgets for the sequels were so low.
That's not true, and now it's time for a little "proper study of APES.
 
While the concept of PLANET was, and still is, seen as "kids' stuff" to many, Fox had tried to counter that with the way PLANET was originally promoted as "An Unusual and Important Motion Picture," which is probably pretentious but what the hell, and 40 plus years later the "motion picture" is just as popular as it has ever been.  But the budgets for the sequels were low primarily because the studio was in dire financial straights during the years those sequels were made.  Fox nearly went belly up the same way it had back after the CLEOPATRA debacle, and unfortunately the sequels had to suffer, and even with that, the limited budgets really didn't sting until they got to BATTLE, by which time the filmmakers had pretty much exhausted their creativity -- given the budget constraints.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 62171 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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See, to me, it seems more than a little ridiculous to say that comic books are for kids and not to be taken seriously when we're on a discussion group devoted to films and TV shows about talking apes. It's kind of like a person with greasy hair insulting a person with bad acne for being unattractive.


So then you're saying you see POTA as comic book level stuff?
 
Gee, I wonder if that's what Pierre Boulle thought when he was writing his book, or Michael Wilson and Rod Serling thought when they were working on the scripts, and Arthur Jacobs must have sold Richard Zanuck on it by telling him, "It's just as good as a comic book!"


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Group: pota Message: 62172 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Prequels Mania
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*** So we're in for possibly two or three times the boredom we already have
from the original BLADERUNNER? ;) ***


Yeah, BLADERUNNER is another one of those movies the popularity of which escapes me.  I was that impressed with it when it was new, and watching it in HD on satellite a couple weeks ago, I gave up after fifteen minutes out of sheer boredom.
 
This news makes about as much sense to me as a remake of LOGAN'S RUN or a sequel to TRON.
 
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 62173 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: on the set planet photos 1967 [2 Attachments]
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These are GREAT!!!!! Thank you!!!

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 8:44 AM, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
[Attachment(s) from William Burge included below]

dear group, here is two photos during the filming of planet-june 1967. from william burge




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Group: pota Message: 62174 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Spiderman Vs Apes
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If the new film does better than our wildest dreams and revives the franchise (vile word) can a broadway show be far behind?

And I don't mean a show with stupid death-defying stunts, a crappy score by U2 or a Simpsons musical parody.

I'm talking about gorillas on horseback galloping down the aisles, Icarus crashing into a humumgous water tank and Taylor screaming "Damn you all to hell" to a life-sized Statue of Liberty as the lights go down.

Not a staged comicbook, but a kick-ass operatic rendition of the first film with a stage full of damned dirty apes.

And get Charlie Sheen to play Taylor. I hear he's available. "Me against apes? Duh, winning! I've got Ursus blood and Zaius DNA, dude."

This is happening people, don't doubt it for a second. You heard it here first.





I've heard many things here, but that certainly was a first, and now you've got me wondering "Can a POTA 3-D amusement park ride be far behind?"
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Group: pota Message: 62175 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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Well, them's fightin' words young man.I'm proud to say I rejoice in the fact that I'm a total Spider-Man geek and have been for four decades now.In fact, last year, I had a letter printed in Amazing Spidey, complaining about him being portrayed getting drunk and having casual sex(so, so childish, that).
Oh, misunderstood again.... well, I am talking to humans.  What can you expect?
 
I have nothing against Spiderman, nor do I want to see comic books wiped from the face of the earth, but Spiderman is what it is, and comic books are what they are, and POTA is what it is, which I guess happens to be many things to many people.
 
But for me, it's apples and oranges, and I don't like to mix the two.  I'm just not thrilled by APES as a comic book thingie.
 
And as for Peter Parker being one of the "great, great literary creations of the 20th Century"..... well so is Humbert Humbert, and let's here it for casual sex!  Is there any better kind?
 
-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 62176 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: on the set planet photos 1967 [2 Attachments]
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I opened one of those files, William, and got a virus.  What's up?




-----Original Message-----
From: William Burge <billburge48@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: billburge48 <billburge48@...>
Sent: Sat, Mar 5, 2011 9:44 am
Subject: [pota] on the set planet photos 1967 [2 Attachments]

 
[Attachment(s) from William Burge included below]
dear group, here is two photos during the filming of planet-june 1967. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 62177 From: James Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Free films, special screenings March 4-10
Kansas City Star
PLANET OF THE APES ” Astronauts land on a planet where monkeys are the most-evolved creatures and humans are brainless animals.6 pm Monday, KCK Main Library. “ON THE BEACH” In the wake of World War III, civilization exists only in Australia. ...
See all stories on this topic »

It's Action Figure Friday!
USA Today
From Heather S. in Queens, New York: "I actually bought Mark Wahlberg's Planet of the Apes action figure and met him at FAO Schwartz to have it signed. I've heard that he can be a jerk, but I've met him a couple times and he's been extremely nice. ...
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USA Today

 

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Group: pota Message: 62178 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: on the set planet photos 1967
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Thanks again William. Really great pics.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
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> dear group, here is two photos during the filming of planet-june 1967. from william burge
>

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Group: pota Message: 62179 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive
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Thanks Zach. And thanks to everyone else. Hope you all like the rest of the installements over the next several months.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> This Mendez Dynasty is awesome! I can't wait to see the next installments.
> Thanks for posting!
>
> Zach
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 62180 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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Yes, they are to be taken seriously---by kids. I understand they are popular with many adults also but I feel its a medium that just caters to a young or young minded set. Some dark comics or Watchmen type comics are more sophisticated but in generaal comics were and are tarheted to people under 18, just my opinion, and we all have one...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> See, to me, it seems more than a little ridiculous to say that comic books are for kids and not to be taken seriously when we're on a discussion group devoted to films and TV shows about talking apes. It's kind of like a person with greasy hair insulting a person with bad acne for being unattractive.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@> wrote:
> >
> > Absolutly. Comic heroes cater to a nebbish factor in society. Some can be good but to me no matter how good it will always be a kids medium. John M.
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 62181 From: William Burge Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: planet photos 1967
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dear group, here are two more planet photos . from william burge one from escape

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Group: pota Message: 62182 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
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What a load of hugger-mugger. Yeah, Fox was in dire straits financially but they also relegated "Apes" to the children's ghetto, so they didn't feel it was worth investment. And sequels were looked down on. There's many variables. Now it's an upside-down civilization where kids and sequels rule but back then Fox felt it would be diminishing returns and it became self-fulfilling.
Now excuse me while I self-fulfill myself.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:13 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover






Back in the day a lot of people thought of POTA as "kids' stuff" (some still do). That's why the budgets for the sequels were so low.
That's not true, and now it's time for a little "proper study of APES.

While the concept of PLANET was, and still is, seen as "kids' stuff" to many, Fox had tried to counter that with the way PLANET was originally promoted as "An Unusual and Important Motion Picture," which is probably pretentious but what the hell, and 40 plus years later the "motion picture" is just as popular as it has ever been. But the budgets for the sequels were low primarily because the studio was in dire financial straights during the years those sequels were made. Fox nearly went belly up the same way it had back after the CLEOPATRA debacle, and unfortunately the sequels had to suffer, and even with that, the limited budgets really didn't sting until they got to BATTLE, by which time the filmmakers had pretty much exhausted their creativity -- given the budget constraints.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 62183 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: A Rare picture of my own
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Bruce
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Group: pota Message: 62184 From: rassmguy Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>So then you're saying you see POTA as comic book level stuff?

What I'm saying is that literature is literature, regardless of medium. Some of it is brilliant, some of it is just average and some of it is unadulterated crap. That's true for books, it's true for movies and it's true for comics. I consider Boulle's POTA novel a fun read--but I consider Alan Moore's Watchmen to be far better written. I consider Rod Serling's Twilight Zone scripts to be gold--but I consider Moore's V for Vendetta much more compelling and sophisticated than many of them. I consider Shakespeare to be among the best writers of all time--but I consider Jamie Delano's Hellblazer run to be more consistently thought-provoking. And I consider Gone With the Wind to be one of the greatest movies ever made--but I consider Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns to be far more powerful. I am more concerned with the quality of writing and the story being told than I am with the medium in which that story is being presented. Boulle wrote some great books--but in my opinion, Moore, Delano and Miller are all better writers, and I'd be more likely to re-read Watchmen for a sixth time than I would Boulle's Monkey Planet. Dismissing all of comicdom as kids' stuff--while it's certainly your right, and I don't mean to come off as arguing with you--means you're closing yourself off to a lot of brilliant literature.

>Gee, I wonder if that's what Pierre Boulle
>thought when he was writing his book, or
>Michael Wilson and Rod Serling thought when
>they were working on the scripts, and Arthur
>Jacobs must have sold Richard Zanuck on it
>by telling him, "It's just as good as a
>comic book!"

I don't really have an answer to that since it's a distortion of what I was saying.
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Group: pota Message: 62185 From: paisleykid1 Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
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Hello?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "paisleykid1" <mstanley@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry if this has been covered already, but is there any indication when these BOOM issues are due out? I don't want to miss them. Thanks in advance!
>
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Group: pota Message: 62186 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
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Sorry. The first issue comes out on April 27th.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "paisleykid1" <mstanley@...> wrote:
>
> Hello?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "paisleykid1" mstanley@ wrote:
> >
> > Sorry if this has been covered already, but is there any indication when these BOOM issues are due out? I don't want to miss them. Thanks in advance!
> >
>

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Group: pota Message: 62187 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
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*** This was answered a couple times since you asked: They'll be out APRIL
27! ***




In a message dated 3/5/2011 2:46:56 PM Central Standard Time,
mstanley@... writes:


> Hello?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "paisleykid1" <mstanley@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry if this has been covered already, but is there any indication when
> these BOOM issues are due out? I don't want to miss them. Thanks in
> advance!
>

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Group: pota Message: 62188 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover
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What's "Boom!"? Is that Charlie Sheen's autobiography?


From: mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:50 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Boom! Issue #2 Cover



*** This was answered a couple times since you asked: They'll be out APRIL
27! ***

In a message dated 3/5/2011 2:46:56 PM Central Standard Time,
mstanley@... writes:

> Hello?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "paisleykid1" <mstanley@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry if this has been covered already, but is there any indication when
> these BOOM issues are due out? I don't want to miss them. Thanks in
> advance!
>

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Group: pota Message: 62189 From: Kevin Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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sorry to disagree here but the modern comic IS definitely NOT geared
towards children - no parent would hand Watchmen, Kickass or the current
Batman to a child - Japanese manga is a good example of how NOT for
children comics can be but these are often dismissed simple because they
are a drawn medium. As for the 'nebbish' label I find it funny that
people who will happily dress up and paint their faces and act like
idiots in support of some sports team can point their fingers at people
like us and say 'nerd'. I know that everyone has opinions but to
dismiss the medium as childish is well childish in itself.

KJ
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Group: pota Message: 62190 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: 3 pictures for you
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Behold the Great General Urko!!
He lives!!!
Jess.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:08 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
OMG!!! Urko LIVES!!!!
40-gun salute in Ape City!!!! Whoooo! He is what I was expecting him to be. It was quite stressful trying to pry the molds apart...as tough as giving birth almost. I'm so happy! Bring on the grape juice plus.

Jess.


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Group: pota Message: 62191 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/5/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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I think those people who dressup and point fingers are just as infantile. Sport fanatics are just below comic collectors...in general.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kevin <pellew@...> wrote:
>
> sorry to disagree here but the modern comic IS definitely NOT geared
> towards children - no parent would hand Watchmen, Kickass or the current
> Batman to a child - Japanese manga is a good example of how NOT for
> children comics can be but these are often dismissed simple because they
> are a drawn medium. As for the 'nebbish' label I find it funny that
> people who will happily dress up and paint their faces and act like
> idiots in support of some sports team can point their fingers at people
> like us and say 'nerd'. I know that everyone has opinions but to
> dismiss the medium as childish is well childish in itself.
>
> KJ
>
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Group: pota Message: 62192 From: Pawfan Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> *** I would guess it's because SPIDERMAN is still a somewhat "hot"
> franchise... They probably have a built in audience now and the website is there to
> not only promote the forthcoming film but to keep the interest sparked all
> around... APES has been pretty "dormant" for the last ten years, but if ROTA
> is a hit and generates a renewed following for APES, then FOX might do a
> website? And if nothing else, the films "star" is getting enough (over)exposure
> so that might help in the end... If people aren't sick of Franco by
> November that is...***
>
>
I'm trying to picture FOX building websites and interest around
their products. The day Fox does what George Lucas did with
Star Wars, and what Disney and Universal has done with there
products, Apes would've taken over for real by then!
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Group: pota Message: 62193 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Rise of the composer
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Patrick Doyle is the composer of "Rise of the Apes". If anyone's interested in the music aspect, filmtracks has a profile and various reviews of Doyle works can be clicked on. They're the experts, you're not, and they think he's rather swell:

http://www.filmtracks.com/composers/doyle..html"

Doyle has a long association with director Kenneth Branagh, from his first score "Henry V" to his most recent, this summer's "Thor" (Branagh's "As You Like It" featured Doyle as an actor and also starred "Rise" actor David Oyelowo). Doyle's only sci-fi score to date is for Branagh's "Frankenstein":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oaQzvcFcyU

Makes for grand listening while looking at these snaps:

http://www.earthsmightiest.com/fansites/planetoftheapes/pictures/?g=142

http://collider.com/rise-of-the-apes-movie-image/77693/
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Group: pota Message: 62194 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: 3 pictures for you [3 Attachments]
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THAT is AWESOME!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:01 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
[Attachment(s) from jessica rotich included below]

Behold the Great General Urko!!
He lives!!!
Jess.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:08 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
OMG!!! Urko LIVES!!!!
40-gun salute in Ape City!!!! Whoooo! He is what I was expecting him to be. It was quite stressful trying to pry the molds apart...as tough as giving birth almost. I'm so happy! Bring on the grape juice plus.

Jess.





--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at
and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

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Group: pota Message: 62195 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Spiderman Vs Apes
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It's like his father movie APEocalypse Now.
You either lover some one, or you hate them.
Or you love to hate them, or you hate loving them?
Or something like that. OMG!  I must have taken
too much Charlie Sheen!  Get me to an O.R.!
O R get me to a toilet so I can throw up.
I think I might be Winning too much! Anyone
 
 
In a message dated 3/5/2011 9:38:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
And get Charlie Sheen to play Taylor. I hear he's available. "Me against apes? Duh, winning! I've got Ursus blood and Zaius DNA, dude."
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Group: pota Message: 62196 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: 3 pictures for you [3 Attachments]
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WoW Jess!
Well done!
You are THE POTA Artist of the Year!
If Brian doesn't hire you then he's Mad!
MAD I TELL YOU!  That is WAY Cool!
 
T
 
In a message dated 3/5/2011 6:04:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:
Behold the Great General Urko!!
 
He lives!!!
 
Jess.
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Group: pota Message: 62197 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: A Rare picture of my own
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Has anyone read a script draft that covers whatever that scene was about?  And I wonder if that prop Dodge is playing with was something real or imagined?



-----Original Message-----
From: stenosaurus <stenosaurus@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 5, 2011 2:51 pm
Subject: [pota] A Rare picture of my own

 
 
Bruce
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Group: pota Message: 62198 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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sorry to disagree here but the modern comic IS definitely NOT geared
towards children

Well, I don't know about you guys, but the images I can imagine in my mind when I read a good book are far better than any illustration I might see in a comic book version of the same story.
 
I say, comic books are for the imagination challenged.  And, dare I say, this is also true of movies.
 
-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 62199 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: A Rare picture of my own
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It could be this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/450595563/pic/594559202/view?picmode=medium&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=81&dir=asc

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Has anyone read a script draft that covers whatever that scene was about? And I wonder if that prop Dodge is playing with was something real or imagined?
>
>
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 62200 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: A Rare picture of my own
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LOL!
 
Bruce
 
In a message dated 3/6/2011 8:58:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:
 

It could be this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/450595563/pic/594559202/view?picmode=medium&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=81&dir=asc

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Has anyone read a script draft that covers whatever that scene was about? And I wonder if that prop Dodge is playing with was something real or imagined?
>
>
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 62201 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: A Rare picture of my own
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You can't hear me, James, but I'm making a fart noise.



-----Original Message-----
From: stenosaurus <stenosaurus@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 6, 2011 9:27 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: A Rare picture of my own

 
LOL!
 
Bruce
 
In a message dated 3/6/2011 8:58:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:
 
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Has anyone read a script draft that covers whatever that scene was about? And I wonder if that prop Dodge is playing with was something real or imagined?
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 62202 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Caesar sale at Amazon
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I guess Amazon will have a special "lightning sale" on the Caesar head this afternoon. Caesar's hot. Did you know he's the star of a new movie coming out this year? You buy this, you're head and shoulders above the crowd. Duh, WINNING!
Actually, regular DVD is sooo first decade of the 21st Century. And it contains the crappy version of the cartoons. And it's the old school version of Caesar. But still, you can't beat the price (I think). Duh, SAVING!

http://www.aintiotcool.com/node/48759
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Group: pota Message: 62203 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
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I screwed up the link. Duh, SLEEPY!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48759


From: Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:02 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Caesar sale at Amazon


I guess Amazon will have a special "lightning sale" on the Caesar head this afternoon. Caesar's hot. Did you know he's the star of a new movie coming out this year? You buy this, you're head and shoulders above the crowd. Duh, WINNING!
Actually, regular DVD is sooo first decade of the 21st Century. And it contains the crappy version of the cartoons. And it's the old school version of Caesar. But still, you can't beat the price (I think). Duh, SAVING!

http://www.aintiotcool.com/node/48759
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Group: pota Message: 62204 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
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Here's a direct link to Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E6ESG2?tag=plaoftheapeme-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B000E6ESG2&adid=18GWT3263Q48YS8F6APE but I guess the sale doesn't begin until 5PM.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I screwed up the link. Duh, SLEEPY!
>
> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48759
>
>
> From: Jeff K.
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:02 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Caesar sale at Amazon
>
>
> I guess Amazon will have a special "lightning sale" on the Caesar head this afternoon. Caesar's hot. Did you know he's the star of a new movie coming out this year? You buy this, you're head and shoulders above the crowd. Duh, WINNING!
> Actually, regular DVD is sooo first decade of the 21st Century. And it contains the crappy version of the cartoons. And it's the old school version of Caesar. But still, you can't beat the price (I think). Duh, SAVING!
>
> http://www.aintiotcool.com/node/48759
>

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Group: pota Message: 62205 From: zasco1957 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive
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You're welcome. The nest one will be out in, April?

Zach




-------Original Message-------

From: jamesa1102
Date: 03/05/11 10:13:51
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive


Thanks Zach. And thanks to everyone else. Hope you all like the rest of the
installements over the next several months.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> This Mendez Dynasty is awesome! I can't wait to see the next installments.
> Thanks for posting!
>
> Zach
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 62206 From: rassmguy Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> I say, comic books are for the imagination challenged.
> And, dare I say, this is also true of movies.

Rory, I respect your opinion, man, but wow... that just smacks of elitism and condescension.
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Group: pota Message: 62207 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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John....you are wrong. Though the comics have continuity issues, they have grown with their audience. It's not the little ones who relly like comics anymore....it's adults. To cater to this demographic, even Marvel and DC now write more towards adults than kids. They now have special kid comics for the little ones. I'm not saying that they are great sci-fi by any means....but I do have friends who still collect the mainstream comics and some of them are impressive. Even G.I. Joe has taken an adult turn. Personally, I can't wait for the POTA comic.



From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 11:39:24 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?

 

Yes, they are to be taken seriously---by kids. I understand they are popular with many adults also but I feel its a medium that just caters to a young or young minded set. Some dark comics or Watchmen type comics are more sophisticated but in generaal comics were and are tarheted to people under 18, just my opinion, and we all have one...John M.

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Group: pota Message: 62208 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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I don't agree with your opinion, comics are for people to show their imagination, and if it wasn't for movies
Apes wouldn't be seen by million of fans.

I totally disagree with tour opinion

Kevin



-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 6, 2011 2:22 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?

 
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> I say, comic books are for the imagination challenged.
> And, dare I say, this is also true of movies.

Rory, I respect your opinion, man, but wow... that just smacks of elitism and condescension.

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Group: pota Message: 62209 From: Eric Payton Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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Hey Rory....then what are you doing on a site that mainly concerns 5 movies? Are you imagination challenged? Haha!!

BTW, to have an imagination of your own then you need a base off which to spring in the first place. No man or woman is a creative island.



From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 1:44:22 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> I say, comic books are for the imagination challenged.
> And, dare I say, this is also true of movies.

Rory, I respect your opinion, man, but wow... that just smacks of elitism and condescension.


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Group: pota Message: 62210 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive
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The next installment of The Mendez Dynasty will be on Friday. The next update to the Marvel Archive will be in April.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> You're welcome. The nest one will be out in, April?
>
> Zach
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 62211 From: William Burge Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: heston photos
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dear group, here is two photos from another fox film that heston was in with rex harrison as pope juluis the second. and when the film opened in 1965 richard zanuck and linda harrison went to the fox premiere of the agony and the ecstacy and met charlton heston. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 62212 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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I'm going to ask everyone to take a deep breath and cool off before posting to this thread again. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter how wrong you think they may be there is no reason to get personal. Remember, debate the issue, not the person. Thanks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Rory....then what are you doing on a site that mainly concerns 5 movies? Are
> you imagination challenged? Haha!!
>
> BTW, to have an imagination of your own then you need a base off which to spring
> in the first place. No man or woman is a creative island.
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: rassmguy handleyr@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 1:44:22 PM
> Subject: [pota] Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> > I say, comic books are for the imagination challenged.
> > And, dare I say, this is also true of movies.
>
> Rory, I respect your opinion, man, but wow... that just smacks of elitism and
> condescension.

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Group: pota Message: 62213 From: gort65 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Rory....then what are you doing on a site that mainly concerns 5 movies? Are
> you imagination challenged? Haha!!

Maybe like me, he prefers the book to any of the films, series, comics, etc that have come since. That's not to say that there's nothing to enjoy or love about the films and other stuff that have come out since the book (heck, I enjoy the Burton film, too, but best not go there), but that they're not a patch on the original novel. Still, apples and oranges springs to mind with this type of argument; it's not black-and-white, where you can't enjoy the film if you prefer the book. However, I do think that Haristas has gone a little too far for my liking on this subject, even if I do generally agree that illustrations in a comic story are usually there because the author didn't have the imagination to explain in words and impart into the imagination what's shown in pictures. There are some great comics out there, but they're usually few and far between (the usual suspects tend to get thrown about: Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Maus, etc).

>
> BTW, to have an imagination of your own then you need a base off which to spring
> in the first place. No man or woman is a creative island.

Hence why comics appeal to the young... and then we move on to more challenging and imaginative things. Sorry. ;)

But, I will admit that not all comics are the same. There are great comics out there, there are poor ones, too, much like other mediums of the imagination. Still, to me, a picture in a comic has forced itself into your imagination in the simplest way, doing the work for the reader, while a work of literature, like a novel, has to use words in order to convey to the imagination the scenes, characters, etc, allowing the reader to construct out of the building blocks given by the author. I find that comics tend to limit rather than challenge your imagination, but there are exceptions to this that I'll readily accept.


Graham F
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Group: pota Message: 62214 From: William Burge Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: planet photos
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dear group, here are some more planet photos. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 62215 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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Since we're all literary snobs now, here's Charlton Heston performing Shakespeare (both with music by Patrick "Rise of the Apes" Doyle). You asked for it!

"Henry V":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSP-uTzBpRk

"Hamlet":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6As8EJwTsQ



From: gort65
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 12:53 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?





--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Rory....then what are you doing on a site that mainly concerns 5 movies? Are
> you imagination challenged? Haha!!

Maybe like me, he prefers the book to any of the films, series, comics, etc that have come since. That's not to say that there's nothing to enjoy or love about the films and other stuff that have come out since the book (heck, I enjoy the Burton film, too, but best not go there), but that they're not a patch on the original novel. Still, apples and oranges springs to mind with this type of argument; it's not black-and-white, where you can't enjoy the film if you prefer the book. However, I do think that Haristas has gone a little too far for my liking on this subject, even if I do generally agree that illustrations in a comic story are usually there because the author didn't have the imagination to explain in words and impart into the imagination what's shown in pictures. There are some great comics out there, but they're usually few and far between (the usual suspects tend to get thrown about: Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Maus, etc).

>
> BTW, to have an imagination of your own then you need a base off which to spring
> in the first place. No man or woman is a creative island.

Hence why comics appeal to the young... and then we move on to more challenging and imaginative things. Sorry. ;)

But, I will admit that not all comics are the same. There are great comics out there, there are poor ones, too, much like other mediums of the imagination. Still, to me, a picture in a comic has forced itself into your imagination in the simplest way, doing the work for the reader, while a work of literature, like a novel, has to use words in order to convey to the imagination the scenes, characters, etc, allowing the reader to construct out of the building blocks given by the author. I find that comics tend to limit rather than challenge your imagination, but there are exceptions to this that I'll readily accept.

Graham F
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Group: pota Message: 62216 From: gort65 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Since we're all literary snobs now, here's Charlton Heston performing Shakespeare (both with music by Patrick "Rise of the Apes" Doyle). You asked for it!
>
> "Henry V":
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSP-uTzBpRk
>
> "Hamlet":
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6As8EJwTsQ

Yes, and? Did I say anything against the acting of Heston in my comment? Did I say that the film wasn't good (I love the film, it's just that I prefer the book). Maybe I've misunderstood your point, and if I have I'm sorry, but I don't understand why showing Heston playing in Shakespeare plays is counter to anything that I've said.


Graham F
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Group: pota Message: 62217 From: zasco1957 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive
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That's great! Thanks again!

Zach


-------Original Message-------

From: jamesa1102
Date: 3/6/2011 2:15:57 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive


The next installment of The Mendez Dynasty will be on Friday. The next
update to the Marvel Archive will be in April.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
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> You're welcome. The nest one will be out in, April?
>
> Zach
>
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Group: pota Message: 62218 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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Shakespeare didn't write no comic books. The "imagination" soars on the wings of Shakey's words, something comic book writers (or readers) could never understand, no?
Heston and Doyle are on topic to what this group is about, that's all.


From: gort65
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 3:10 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?


Yes, and? Did I say anything against the acting of Heston in my comment? Did I say that the film wasn't good (I love the film, it's just that I prefer the book). Maybe I've misunderstood your point, and if I have I'm sorry, but I don't understand why showing Heston playing in Shakespeare plays is counter to anything that I've said.

Graham F
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Group: pota Message: 62219 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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Your right James, but see how all those comic guys are ganging up on Rory and me to a smaller extent just like, umm...just like Children....HAHA, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm going to ask everyone to take a deep breath and cool off before
> posting to this thread again. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, no
> matter how wrong you think they may be there is no reason to get
> personal. Remember, debate the issue, not the person. Thanks.
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 62220 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
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I'm seeing a price of $154.99.
 
That's way too high.  I guess I'm still going to just say NO! to head.




-----Original Message-----
From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 6, 2011 11:06 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar sale at Amazon

 
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> I screwed up the link. Duh, SLEEPY!
>
> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48759
>
>
> From: Jeff K.
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:02 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Caesar sale at Amazon
>
>
> I guess Amazon will have a special "lightning sale" on the Caesar head this afternoon. Caesar's hot. Did you know he's the star of a new movie coming out this year? You buy this, you're head and shoulders above the crowd. Duh, WINNING!
> Actually, regular DVD is sooo first decade of the 21st Century. And it contains the crappy version of the cartoons. And it's the old school version of Caesar. But still, you can't beat the price (I think). Duh, SAVING!
>
> http://www.aintiotcool.com/node/48759
>
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Group: pota Message: 62221 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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Rory, I respect your opinion, man, but wow... that just smacks of elitism and condescension.



I guess that's what I'm being.  I truly believe that we're living in an era of cultural decline, and the elevation by some of comic books to an equal status with some of the best literature from the past is just one small example of that.  Another would be the almost brain dead way Hollywood has been turning to comic books to base movies on, which is simply pandering to an adolescent audience that sadly is the only one left that goes to the movies repeatedly these days.
 
Now, I have never read WATCHMEN, but if it's so great, why does it have to have pictures?  Why isn't just in novel form?  I know that if I were writing it, and I thought it was really good as literature, I'd scrap the graphic novel stuff and -- as elitist as this sounds -- get serious about it and put it out as a novel.
 
By the way, didn't WATCHMEN get made into a movie and didn't it bomb?
 
-- Rory 
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Group: pota Message: 62222 From: Kevin Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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dude no one is ganging up on anyone - you are trying unsuccessfully to
ram your opinion down our throats and when we disagree you call us
children - you have some problem with comics fine we get it and I for
one accept that you have issues about them but really calling us
children simply because we disagree with you is just wrong.

KJ
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Group: pota Message: 62223 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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John....you are wrong. Though the comics have continuity issues, they have grown with their audience. It's not the little ones who relly like comics anymore....it's adults.

Boy, that statement opens up a whole can of worms for me -- that's really outside the scope of this Yahoo group.
 
-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 62224 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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I'm going to ask everyone to take a deep breath and cool off before posting to this thread again. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter how wrong you think they may be there is no reason to get personal. Remember, debate the issue, not the person. Thanks.
And I'm not looking for a fight, nor do I get mad when someone says, "So what are you doing here?  Ha! Ha!"  You have a point.  And if you want to call me an elitist, condescending prick bastard and a degenerate (Roman Polanski is my favorite living director after all) -- it doesn't bother me!
 
I'm here simply because of my lasting juvenile fixation on one movie, my favorite movie, the original PLANET OF THE APES.
 
Now, if you love comic books and graphic novels, good for you.  I have no argument with that.  It's your thing.  Whatever.
 
But's it's not my thing.  They really don't interest me at all, and if you're going to try and convince me that I'm missing something and that I should put down the novel I'm currently reading and pick up a comic book instead, then you're going to get an argument from me, and I'm sure you're not going to like some of the things I say, but really, what does it matter?
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 62225 From: gort65 Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Shakespeare didn't write no comic books. The "imagination" soars on the wings of Shakey's words, something comic book writers (or readers) could never understand, no?

Verily, if that's what you want. Personally, I don't see it as black-and-white as that, but there you go.

> Heston and Doyle are on topic to what this group is about, that's all.
>

I see. Maybe I need that in comic form. ;)


Graham F
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Group: pota Message: 62226 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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Since I posted "Apes" composer Patrick Doyle's credits I'll just add he's done a lot of highfallutin' classics; Shakespeare, "Great Expectations", Jane Austin's "Sense and Sensibility". And he's not above doing a "comic book movie": "Thor". Or science-fiction, which was looked down on in it's day too. Ask Arthur Jacobs. Well, if you could.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 4:38 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?



Your right James, but see how all those comic guys are ganging up on Rory and me to a smaller extent just like, umm...just like Children....HAHA, John M.
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Group: pota Message: 62227 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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dude no one is ganging up on anyone - you are trying unsuccessfully to
ram your opinion down our throats and when we disagree you call us
children - you have some problem with comics fine we get it and I for
one accept that you have issues about them but really calling us
children simply because we disagree with you is just wrong.

KJ


I'm not calling anyone children here, but I am saying that adults wanting to read comic books is juvenile.  That's my honest opinion.  I still have many juvenile tastes in things.  I'll chew bubble gum if I have it, I recently rented the Blu-ray of TOY STORY 3, and I find Charlie Sheen really funny and can't wait to hear what comes out of his mouth next, BUT, I know I'm being juvenile -- that's how I keep my mature self grounded.
 
-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 62228 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
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I think you missed the sale. I tracked back to the talkback in the article and they said it sold out in 9 minutes. So I guess they only had a certain amount for sale. Did anyone see what the "lightning" price was?


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:18 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar sale at Amazon




I'm seeing a price of $154.99.

That's way too high. I guess I'm still going to just say NO! to head.
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Group: pota Message: 62229 From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Re: Oscars show Caesar in Rise ?
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At this point everyone has had their say on this matter.

No more posts on this topic will be approved.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>>
>
> I'm not calling anyone children here, but I am saying that adults wanting to read comic books is juvenile. That's my honest opinion. I still have many juvenile tastes in things. I'll chew bubble gum if I have it, I recently rented the Blu-ray of TOY STORY 3, and I find Charlie Sheen really funny and can't wait to hear what comes out of his mouth next, BUT, I know I'm being juvenile -- that's how I keep my mature self grounded.
>
> -- Rory
>

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Group: pota Message: 62230 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: (OT) Kidults
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Here's an interesting article kind of on the subject we've been arguing here:
 
That's what we are here, Kidults.
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Group: pota Message: 62231 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/6/2011
Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Group: pota Message: 62232 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: Re: Beneath the Planet of the Apes, 2/19/2011, 2:30 pm
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TV Guide has been using these exact wordings since the films first came to television in the 70's. The only thing that's changed about the BENEATH description was a line that was removed to the effect of "William Creber's special effects include a subterranean New York City".
 
The one for CONQUEST was something like "Fourth entry in the series, where a simian messiah sets the stage for bloodshed".
 
 
Chris L.
 
 
>>Beneath the Planet of the Apes

First sequel to the 1968 hit about a simian society ruling the world, while mutated humans live underground. James Franciscus, Kim Hunter, Charlton Heston. Dr. Zaius: Maurice Evans. Nova: Linda Harrison. Mendez: Paul Richards. Fat Man: Victor Buono. Ursus: James Gregory. Directed by Ted Post. <<
 
 
>>Battle for the Planet of the Apes
The fifth and last chapter of the series finds the simians fighting a band of radiation-scarred mutants. Roddy McDowall, Natalie Trundy, Claude Akins. Kolp: Severn Darden. Mandemus: Lew Ayres. Virgil: Paul Williams. Lawgiver: John Huston. <<
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Group: pota Message: 62233 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
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I say no, too. He looks way too creepy.
Jess.
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

I think you missed the sale. I tracked back to the talkback in the article and they said it sold out in 9 minutes. So I guess they only had a certain amount for sale. Did anyone see what the "lightning" price was?

From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:18 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar sale at Amazon

I'm seeing a price of $154.99.

That's way too high. I guess I'm still going to just say NO! to head.


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Group: pota Message: 62234 From: johnroche49 Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: Re: Rise of the composer
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I'm really hoping for a good score for Rise---Danny Elfman's Apes had hints of good stuff that got drowned out in the booming noise we ended up with.Does anybody still play that score at home? I don't.I'd love something tuneful and operatic---something classy.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Patrick Doyle is the composer of "Rise of the Apes". If anyone's interested in the music aspect, filmtracks has a profile and various reviews of Doyle works can be clicked on. They're the experts, you're not, and they think he's rather swell:
>
> http://www.filmtracks.com/composers/doyle..html"
>
> Doyle has a long association with director Kenneth Branagh, from his first score "Henry V" to his most recent, this summer's "Thor" (Branagh's "As You Like It" featured Doyle as an actor and also starred "Rise" actor David Oyelowo). Doyle's only sci-fi score to date is for Branagh's "Frankenstein":
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oaQzvcFcyU
>
> Makes for grand listening while looking at these snaps:
>
> http://www.earthsmightiest.com/fansites/planetoftheapes/pictures/?g=142
>
> http://collider.com/rise-of-the-apes-movie-image/77693/
>
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Group: pota Message: 62235 From: William Burge Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: happy birthday arthur p jacobs
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dear group, this is my birthday tribute to arthur p jacobs- the man that started planet of the apes. what a genius a brilliant film producer. this photo date is 1969. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 62236 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: Re: Rise of the composer
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I'm really hoping for a good score for Rise---Danny Elfman's Apes had hints of good stuff that got drowned out in the booming noise we ended up with.Does anybody still play that score at home? I don't.I'd love something tuneful and operatic---something classy.John, Scrolls.


Apart from the main title cue, the rest of the score is blah.  I don't even know where my CD of it is.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 62237 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: Re: happy birthday arthur p jacobs [1 Attachment]
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It's too bad there's no recorded interview with him.  I don't know what he even sounded like.




-----Original Message-----
From: William Burge <billburge48@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: billburge48 <billburge48@...>
Sent: Mon, Mar 7, 2011 8:07 am
Subject: [pota] happy birthday arthur p jacobs [1 Attachment]

 
[Attachment(s) from William Burge included below]
dear group, this is my birthday tribute to arthur p jacobs- the man that started planet of the apes. what a genius a brilliant film producer. this photo date is 1969. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 62238 From: William Burge Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: heston 1967
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dear group, i found a programe that heston did for the hallmark hall of fame 1967 production of elizabeth the queen shown on jan 67 nbc it co  star judith anderson as the queen -earlier with heston on the ten commandments. a photo of the power records 1974 on cd in 1999. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 62239 From: William Burge Date: 3/7/2011
Subject: ape artwork
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dear group, found a neat drawing on roddy mcdowell from conquest. from william burge

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Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Group: pota Message: 62241 From: johnroche49 Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Rise of the composer
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You could run his Apes and Spider-Man scores and not notice the join.I'm sure there's other scores of Elfman you could add into that mix.I'm not asking for the soaring heights of a Goldsmith, but it would be wondeful to have a score with an Apes 'identity' with a bit of emotion in it.Here's hoping.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm really hoping for a good score for Rise---Danny Elfman's Apes had hints of good stuff that got drowned out in the booming noise we ended up with.Does anybody still play that score at home? I don't.I'd love something tuneful and operatic---something classy.John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
>
> Apart from the main title cue, the rest of the score is blah. I don't even know where my CD of it is.
>
> -- Rory
>
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Group: pota Message: 62242 From: dave Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Deviants
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There's some beautiful new art on Deviantart.com... Check this out!

<http://browse.deviantart.com/?order=14&q=PLANET%20APES#/d3avp02>

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 62243 From: Dario Sciola Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Deviants
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The one called "Trophies" by Jason Edmiston is particularly awesome.
He's got a nice portfolio and done some covers for mags like Famous
Monsters (the new run). I was hoping he had more POTA seeing as he did
such a great job on that one, but the closest thing he's got is some
gorilla's and a few Kong pieces.

Thanks for pointing these out.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: dave <smugster2000@...>
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011 7:51 am
Subject: [pota] Deviants

> There's some beautiful new art on Deviantart.com... Check this out!
>
> <http://browse.deviantart.com/?order=14&q=PLANET%20APES#/d3avp02>
>
> Dave
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 62244 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
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Group: pota Message: 62245 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Deviants
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The one called "Trophies" by Jason Edmiston is particularly awesome.

The rifles should be black, though.


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Group: pota Message: 62246 From: Jim Alexander Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
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>... Not as cheap as the sale on Sunday but $75 is not a bad price for the ape head.

===========

Did anyone ever mention what Sunday's sale price was?  I remember reading that it sold out in nine minutes.

Thanks--

Jim Alexander

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Group: pota Message: 62247 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
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Let me know when it drops to like $5.
 
Remember, the 2001 movie is included with this.  Fox has to pay me to order that again.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 62248 From: William Burge Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: heston photos
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dear group, here is some different heston photos during his film career. enjoy from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 62249 From: William Burge Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: roddy mcdowall
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dear group, i did some diging and found out the only film roddy came out with another called 5 card stud 1968 paramount pictures wit dead martin and robert mitchum . roddy name in the film was nick evers. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 62250 From: William Burge Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: kim hunter
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dear group, heres a few kim hunter photos in the 60s and a roddy mcdowall ape photo . in 1968 kim hunter star in the swimmer with burt lancaster . from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 62251 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
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They'll probably include POTA2001 as a second disc on that ultimate POTA1968 blu-ray. ; )


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:12 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar sale at Amazon






Not as cheap as the sale on Sunday but $75 is not a bad price for the ape head. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E6ESG2?tag=plaoftheapeme-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B000E6ESG2&adid=18GWT3263Q48YS8F6APE

Let me know when it drops to like $5.

Remember, the 2001 movie is included with this. Fox has to pay me to order that again.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 62252 From: Jeff K. Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Rise of the composer
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I like Elfman's POTA music. I listen to it from time to time. I like almost all the "elements" of that movie but the script. And that's a big "but".
HA! I said big but!


From: johnroche49
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:22 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Rise of the composer



You could run his Apes and Spider-Man scores and not notice the join.I'm sure there's other scores of Elfman you could add into that mix.I'm not asking for the soaring heights of a Goldsmith, but it would be wondeful to have a score with an Apes 'identity' with a bit of emotion in it.Here's hoping.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 62253 From: scottgeorge40 Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
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Right!

Count me in!!


Oh, um, hi...

Looong time lurker, first post. I never feel like I have the depth of knowledge usually on display here to contribute meaningfully -- I know: this is the internets, contributions don't have to be meaningful! :p

But I'm excited about seeing PotA on a big screen, so it seemed like a good time to announce my presence.

Anyone else going?

Scott



--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@... wrote:
>
> "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
>
> >>Where is Bethel, NY? <<
>
> http://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/visit/directions.aspx
>
>
>
> "Shane Miller" masonverger12@...> wrote:
>
> >>Not to be stupid, but these are films yes? Not DVD presentations
> right? <<
>
> I'll double check to be sure, but from the e-mail they sent me it sounds
> like they're showing the actual films. My suggestion for BENEATH was
> (politely) turned down for "budgetary and scheduling reasons", but since
> I've got somebody's ear there now I'll pitch the idea of them running all
> five films one day or over the course of a weekend.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
> who wrote:
>
> >>Anyone here planning on going?
>
> They're also showing 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Andromeda Strain, and The
> Day the Earth Stood Still. Looks like I'm making a few trips in April...
>
> I also just e-mailed them making a case for showing BENEATH as well.
> Nothing to lose by trying. <<
>
>
> in response to:
>
> "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> >>http://bethelwoodscenter.org/bwevents/eventdetail.aspx?id=170 <<
>
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Group: pota Message: 62254 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar sale at Amazon
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Total deal breaker! Fox has to sneak that crap of a movie where they can.
Jess.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:12 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

Let me know when it drops to like $5.
Remember, the 2001 movie is included with this. Fox has to pay me to order that again.
-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 62255 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/8/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
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I'm too far. But welcome, Scott~!
Jess.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:41 PM, scottgeorge40 <segeorge98@...> wrote:

Right!

Count me in!!

Oh, um, hi...

Looong time lurker, first post. I never feel like I have the depth of knowledge usually on display here to contribute meaningfully -- I know: this is the internets, contributions don't have to be meaningful! :p

But I'm excited about seeing PotA on a big screen, so it seemed like a good time to announce my presence.

Anyone else going?

Scott

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Group: pota Message: 62256 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
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Hey Scott..
Be sure and report back about the experience....film quality etc....
EnjoY!!
Tim



From: scottgeorge40 <segeorge98@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 7:41:50 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23

 

Right!

Count me in!!

Oh, um, hi...

Looong time lurker, first post. I never feel like I have the depth of knowledge usually on display here to contribute meaningfully -- I know: this is the internets, contributions don't have to be meaningful! :p

But I'm excited about seeing PotA on a big screen, so it seemed like a good time to announce my presence.

Anyone else going?

Scott

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Group: pota Message: 62257 From: johnroche49 Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: Rise of the composer
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The music was, possibly, the least objectionable element of Burton's Apes.Elfman's music seems to do the job whilst the movie is actually playing, but then sort of melts away in the mind.I can imagine people still listening to Jerry's Apes in twenty years, but it's hard to imagine anybody in twenty years even remembering Danny's Apes.I'm hoping for something great this time around.And if Jeff is going to use potty mouth, so am I from now on.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I like Elfman's POTA music. I listen to it from time to time. I like almost all the "elements" of that movie but the script. And that's a big "but".
> HA! I said big but!
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 3:22 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Rise of the composer
>
>
>
> You could run his Apes and Spider-Man scores and not notice the join.I'm sure there's other scores of Elfman you could add into that mix.I'm not asking for the soaring heights of a Goldsmith, but it would be wondeful to have a score with an Apes 'identity' with a bit of emotion in it.Here's hoping.John, Scrolls.
>
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Group: pota Message: 62258 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: kim hunter [4 Attachments]
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Hi, William!
 
This chimpanzee are not KIM HUNTER, but RODDY McDOWALL.
 
Best wishes,
 
Saulo Adami
From Brazil


--- Em ter, 8/3/11, William Burge <billburge48@...> escreveu:

De: William Burge <billburge48@...>
Assunto: [pota] kim hunter [4 Attachments]
Para: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: billburge48@...
Data: Terça-feira, 8 de Março de 2011, 17:45

 
dear group, heres a few kim hunter photos in the 60s and a roddy mcdowall ape photo . in 1968 kim hunter star in the swimmer with burt lancaster . from william burge


 
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Group: pota Message: 62259 From: James Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Top 5 Blu-ray Picks of the Week: 'Excalibur,' Miyazaki's 'Nausicaä'
Moviefone (blog)
Recently, yours truly has been going ape-crazy. How do you follow-up a movie that featured the end of the world? Easy, just time travel back a couple of thousand years. 'Escape From the Planet of the Apes' reunited Roddy McDowell and Kim Hunter as ...
See all stories on this topic »

Armageddon Now Our Favorite PostApocalyptic Movies - Photos ...
Armageddon Now Our Favorite PostApocalyptic Movies - Planet of the Apes photos. View more movie photo essays and pictures at Fandango.com.
www.fandango.com/.../armageddonnowourfavoritepostapocal...

 

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Group: pota Message: 62260 From: scottgeorge40 Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
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Thanks, Jess.

Scott

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> I'm too far. But welcome, Scott~!
>
> Jess.
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:41 PM, scottgeorge40 <segeorge98@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Right!
> >
> > Count me in!!
> >
> > Oh, um, hi...
> >
> > Looong time lurker, first post. I never feel like I have the depth of
> > knowledge usually on display here to contribute meaningfully -- I know: this
> > is the internets, contributions don't have to be meaningful! :p
> >
> > But I'm excited about seeing PotA on a big screen, so it seemed like a good
> > time to announce my presence.
> >
> > Anyone else going?
> >
> > Scott
> >
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Group: pota Message: 62261 From: scottgeorge40 Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
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Will do.

Scott

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> Hey Scott..
> Be sure and report back about the experience....film quality etc....
> EnjoY!!
> Tim
>
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Group: pota Message: 62262 From: jamesa1102 Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: POTA on screen in Bethel, NY April 23
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Scott,

How can you say you don't have the depth of knowledge when you were the grand prize winner of our TV series anniversary contest a few years back. ;-)


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "scottgeorge40" <segeorge98@...> wrote:
>
> Right!
>
> Count me in!!
>
>
> Oh, um, hi...
>
> Looong time lurker, first post. I never feel like I have the depth of knowledge usually on display here to contribute meaningfully -- I know: this is the internets, contributions don't have to be meaningful! :p
>
> But I'm excited about seeing PotA on a big screen, so it seemed like a good time to announce my presence.
>
> Anyone else going?
>
> Scott
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 62263 From: Jim Alexander Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Question for the experts RE: APES DVD 'Extras'
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Dear group--

 

I recently purchased the Deluxe Blu-ray collection of all five PLANET OF THE APES movies (the one that comes with the lovely hardback book). 

 

So, I am wondering whether I need to keep my 25th Anniversary Widescreen Edition of PLANET OF THE APES (the one in the silver-and-black slipcase).  Are ALL the 'Extras' on the 25th Anniversary set repeated on the Blu-ray edition, or did they skip a couple?

 

I am a completist, and don't wish to let go of the 25th Anniversary Edition if it contains even a single feature that isn't available on the Blu-ray set.

 

Would anyone be kind enough to advise me on the above?

Many thanks--

 

Jim Alexander

 

 

 

 

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Group: pota Message: 62264 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: Question for the experts RE: APES DVD 'Extras'
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How you doing, first its the -35th anniversay edition- and out side of being a collector theirs no need. Some here say that one of the soundtracks is better than any offered after this . To me their isnt any better sound to the 35th edition than any after--they are all wrong. If you must get rid of it go ahead. Also the box set is blu-ray and has all the extras, I think, I hope someone else chimes in about the extras. I see no reason not to keep it, you got it and resale is nothing special so be a completist and keep it anyway. Take care John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Jim Alexander <probecontrol@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear group--
>
>
>
> I recently purchased the Deluxe Blu-ray collection of all five PLANET OF THE APES movies (the one that comes with the lovely hardback book).Â
>
>
>
> So, I am wondering whether I need to keep my 25th Anniversary Widescreen Edition of PLANET OF THE APES (the one in the silver-and-black slipcase). Are ALL the 'Extras'  on the 25th Anniversary set repeated on the Blu-ray edition, or did they skip a couple?
>
>
>
> I am a completist , and don't wish to let go of the 25th Anniversary Edition if it contains even a single feature that isn't available on the Blu-ray set.
>
>
>
> Would anyone be kind enough to advise me on the above?
>
> Many thanks--
>
>
>
> Jim Alexander
>
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Group: pota Message: 62265 From: sparkytb2005 Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Point Dume directions
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Does anyone please have specific directions via car from Hollywood to THAT beach at Point Dume in Malibu? Assume it's a drive then a walk. I'm here editing my first movie in LA and I NEED to make the pilgrimage.

I know the way but does anyone have the clever route?

Appreciated,

Mark T-B.

P.S. I'll send pics....
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Group: pota Message: 62267 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 3/9/2011
Subject: Re: Question for the experts RE: APES DVD 'Extras'
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Off the top of my head I couldn't tell you. Although the silver edition does come with it's own unique DVD menus.
Always good to keep it as a keep sake on POTA DVD history collection.
 
Al


From: Jim Alexander <probecontrol@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 12:43:50 PM
Subject: [pota] Question for the experts RE: APES DVD 'Extras'

 

Dear group--

 

I recently purchased the Deluxe Blu-ray collection of all five PLANET OF THE APES movies (the one that comes with the lovely hardback book). 

 

So, I am wondering whether I need to keep my 25th Anniversary Widescreen Edition of PLANET OF THE APES (the one in the silver-and-black slipcase).  Are ALL the 'Extras' on the 25th Anniversary set repeated on the Blu-ray edition, or did they skip a couple?

 

I am a completist, and don't wish to let go of the 25th Anniversary Edition if it contains even a single feature that isn't available on the Blu-ray set.

 

Would anyone be kind enough to advise me on the above?

Many thanks--

 

Jim Alexander

 

 

 

 


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