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>>Right!

Count me in!!

Oh, um, hi...

Looong time lurker, first post. I never feel like I have the depth of knowledge usually on display here to contribute meaningfully -- I know: this is the internets, contributions don't have to be meaningful! :p

But I'm excited about seeing PotA on a big screen, so it seemed like a good time to announce my presence.

Anyone else going? <<

>>Where is Bethel, NY? <<

>>Not to be stupid, but these are films yes?  Not DVD

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Awww, you remembered?

That was different; I watched an episode and answered some questions about a clip. If you asked those same questions now, I'd have no idea. :-)

Scott

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Scott,
>
> How can you say you don't have the depth of knowledge when you were the
> grand prize winner of our TV series anniversary contest a few years
> back. ;-)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "scottgeorge40" <segeorge98@> wrote:
> >
> > Right!
> >
> > Count me in!!
> >
> >
> > Oh, um, hi...
> >
> > Looong time lurker, first post. I never feel like I have the depth of
> knowledge usually on display here to contribute meaningfully -- I know:
> this is the internets, contributions don't have to be meaningful! :p
> >
> > But I'm excited about seeing PotA on a big screen, so it seemed like a
> good time to announce my presence.
> >
> > Anyone else going?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
>

DVD, huh? That is a little disappointing. I hope it's worth the trip.

Scott

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@... wrote:
>
> From an employee at the venue:
>
> "Films are screened in our Hi Def theater on Blu-Ray when available,
> otherwise on DVD."
>
>
> So that's pretty much killed my enthusiasm. Since the Ziegfeld in 2008,
> I've seen PLANET on the big screen four times and BENEATH once- as a 35mm
> print. Think I'll pass on this as well as 2001 and THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN,
> though for some reason seeing THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN as a DVD projection
> doesn't bother me as much as the other two would.
>
> Coincidentally, they didn't seem opposed to the idea of a GO APE!
> festival over the course of one or two days, but unless there was
> something of a commitment from group members as far actually attending is
> concerned (and I don't mean 5 or 10 people either) I'm not going to take
> that idea any further with them. Especially if DVD projection is the only
> option.
>
> Shane, I'm glad you asked that question. I would've been pissed making
> that trip and finding out it wasn't a 35mm print.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "scottgeorge40" <segeorge98@...> wrote:
>
> >>Right!
>
> Count me in!!
>
> Oh, um, hi...
>
> Looong time lurker, first post. I never feel like I have the depth of
> knowledge usually on display here to contribute meaningfully -- I know:
> this is the internets, contributions don't have to be meaningful! :p
>
> But I'm excited about seeing PotA on a big screen, so it seemed like a
> good time to announce my presence.
>
> Anyone else going? <<
>
>
> "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
>
> >>Where is Bethel, NY? <<
>
> http://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/visit/directions.aspx
>
>
>
> "Shane Miller" <masonverger12@...> wrote:
>
> >>Not to be stupid, but these are films yes? Not DVD presentations
> right? <<
>
> I'll double check to be sure, but from the e-mail they sent me it sounds
> like they're showing the actual films. My suggestion for BENEATH was
> (politely) turned down for "budgetary and scheduling reasons", but since
> I've got somebody's ear there now I'll pitch the idea of them running all
> five films one day or over the course of a weekend.
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
> who wrote:
>
> >>Anyone here planning on going?
>
> They're also showing 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Andromeda Strain, and The
> Day the Earth Stood Still. Looks like I'm making a few trips in April...
>
> I also just e-mailed them making a case for showing BENEATH as well.
> Nothing to lose by trying. <<
>
>
> in response to:
>
> "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> >>http://bethelwoodscenter.org/bwevents/eventdetail.aspx?id=170 <<
>

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Hi Jim,

To answer your question, on disc one there is nothing that is not included in the Blu-ray collection.

However, on disc two there are several features that are not included anywhere in the Blu-ray collection, such as the film reviews, collections, the Mego commercial and the DVD-ROM program.

So you can get rid of disc one but keep disc two.

Hope that answers your question.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Jim Alexander <probecontrol@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear group--
>
>
>
> I recently purchased the Deluxe Blu-ray collection of all five PLANET OF THE APES movies (the one that comes with the lovely hardback book). 
>
>
>
> So, I am wondering whether I need to keep my 25th Anniversary Widescreen Edition of PLANET OF THE APES (the one in the silver-and-black slipcase).  Are ALL the 'Extras'  on the 25th Anniversary set repeated on the Blu-ray edition, or did they skip a couple?
>
>
>
> I am a completist , and don't wish to let go of the 25th Anniversary Edition if it contains even a single feature that isn't available on the Blu-ray set.
>
>
>
> Would anyone be kind enough to advise me on the above?
>
> Many thanks--
>
>
>
> Jim Alexander
>

Hey Mark,

Here's some basic directions: https://pota.ediaarchive.com/PointDume.htm.

Hope that helps.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone please have specific directions via car from Hollywood to THAT beach at Point Dume in Malibu? Assume it's a drive then a walk. I'm here editing my first movie in LA and I NEED to make the pilgrimage.
>
> I know the way but does anyone have the clever route?
>
> Appreciated,
>
> Mark T-B.
>
> P.S. I'll send pics....
>

It is still nice to see the film with an audience.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "scottgeorge40" <segeorge98@...> wrote:
>
> DVD, huh? That is a little disappointing. I hope it's worth the trip.
>
> Scott
>

Of course I remembered. I try to remember all the good members.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "scottgeorge40" <segeorge98@...> wrote:
>
> Awww, you remembered?
>
> That was different; I watched an episode and answered some questions about a clip. If you asked those same questions now, I'd have no idea. :-)
>
> Scott
>

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Chris Hight <snickertown@...> wrote:

A sculptor by the name of Alex Lopez is going to be sculpting Pete Burke's head in 1:6 scale. He just needs to sell 8 heads for it to be worth his time. Anyone interested should contact him via facebook. His facebook name is: Alejandro Lopez Ramirez

.html His work looks good, any mention of price? Still looking forward to Virdon and Burke from Jess. Both my outfits were created by Jess and I think her head sculpts are amazing.

Rob R

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: snickertown@...
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:48:03 -0800
Subject: [pota] Pete Burke 1:6 Sculpt

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:42 PM, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

His work looks good, any mention of price? Still looking forward to Virdon and Burke from Jess. Both my outfits were created by Jess and I think her head sculpts are amazing.

Rob R

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Rob R

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: jessicarotich@...
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:24:31 -0800
Subject: Re: [pota] Pete Burke 1:6 Sculpt

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:00 PM, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

OK, based on the reply from Jess, count me in too, Ada was good but out of scale, Jess, 1/6th and ferfectly formed (in my opinion), so Go for it Alex. Who is up for a Virdon sculpt?

Rob R

Have you mentioned this on the Mego Museum? There's a few 12" customizers
on there... Maybe they'd be interested in getting in on this?



In a message dated 3/10/2011 4:24:23 PM Central Standard Time,
jessicarotich@... writes:

> Count me in.
>
> That's two sold. We need 6 more apes involved. I have complete faith in
> Alex. Samples of his work can be found here on the Sideshow Forums:
> <A
> HREF="http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65006&highlight=heads">http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65006&
> highlight=heads</A>
>
> Jess.
>
>

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:35 PM, <mlccougar@...> wrote:

Have you mentioned this on the Mego Museum? There's a few 12" customizers
on there... Maybe they'd be interested in getting in on this?

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:39 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

Excellent call, Michael. I will see if anybody there would be interested. Actually, it would be sweet if I can surprise Alex and find 12 buyers. 10 buyers is really nothing compared to the minimum of 20 or 30 parties that some of the other artists are asking for.

Jess.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:35 PM, <mlccougar@...> wrote:

Have you mentioned this on the Mego Museum? There's a few 12" customizers
on there... Maybe they'd be interested in getting in on this?

In a message dated 3/10/2011 4:24:23 PM Central Standard Time,

jessicarotich@... writes:

> Count me in.
>
> That's two sold. We need 6 more apes involved. I have complete faith in
> Alex. Samples of his work can be found here on the Sideshow Forums:

> <A
> HREF="http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65006&highlight=heads">http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65006&
> highlight=heads</A>
>
> Jess.
>
>

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Alex said the price is $35 + $5 shipping.   If anyone is interested I'll send you pix of Ada's Burke. I tried my best but the figure came out pin-headed because she sculpted it too small. It wasn't the first time she burned me.   --- On Fri, 3/11/11, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote: From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Pete Burke 1:6 Sculpt To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: mlccougar@... Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 12:39 AM   Excellent call, Michael.  I will see if anybody there would be interested.  Actually, it would be sweet if I can surprise Alex and find 12 buyers.  10 buyers is really nothing compared to the minimum of 20 or 30 parties that some of the other artists are asking for.   Jess. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:35 PM, <mlccougar@...> wrote:   Have you mentioned this on the Mego Museum? There's a few 12" customizers on there... Maybe they'd be interested in getting in on this?

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It's not his only western. He also had a part in

The Life & Times of Judge Roy Bean with Paul Newman.

He played a lawyer trying to lay claim the The Judge's bar

The Jersey Lilly.  The judge put him in a cage with his drinking

bear for interrupting his poker game.  Could have been worse!

It could have been a gorilla.  I'll bet they're mean drunks.

 

 

In a message dated 3/8/2011 12:24:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, billburge48@... writes:

dear group, i did some diging and found out the only film roddy came out with another called 5 card stud 1968 paramount pictures wit dead martin and robert mitchum . roddy name in the film was nick evers. from william burge

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I'd noticed this a lot in Canada,

where one of the native languages is supposed

to be English.  This are / They is, etc . . . does

not sound right to my ear.  Is there an exception

to the rule?  I though the singulars were supposed

to be IS, and plurals ARE; ie They are, those are,

and She is, he is.  Anyone have a grammar book?

 

 

In a message dated 3/9/2011 7:33:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, apedami@... writes:

This chimpanzee are not KIM HUNTER

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If the size is a problem you can do reductions

with subsequent castings or other techniques.

T

 

In a message dated 3/10/2011 5:45:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Rob, I've tried to sculpt Burke three times and failed.  No wonder Ada gave up. 

 

Burke is one of my frustrations.  Alex will do your action figures justice. 

 

 

Jess.

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I'd buy one just to get the ball rolling.

 

In a message dated 3/11/2011 12:35:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

I just got word that it's $35 per unpainted cast.  Come on guys.  We need to support this artist.

 

Jess.

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Funny I just noticed this myself. And it only took me 38 years. LOL!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lawless <lawford42@...> wrote:
>
> Here's another: the sound of the alarm that goes off in BATTLE when
> Caesar, Virgil, and MacDonald walk past the security device (when Alma
> says "F6! F6!!"): the Batphone.
>

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Chris Hight <snickertown@...> wrote:

Thx for the tip. Ada's Burke needed to be enlarged but the problem was that his neck was the proper scale so when his head was enlarged he had this tree trunk neck. --- On Fri, 3/11/11, LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> wrote: From: LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Pete Burke 1:6 Sculpt To: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 2:33 AM If the size is a problem you can do reductions with subsequent castings or other techniques. T

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:34 PM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

I'd buy one just to get the ball rolling.

In a message dated 3/11/2011 12:35:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

I just got word that it's $35 per unpainted cast. Come on guys. We need to support this artist.

Jess.

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I'm really enjoying this saga.MendeMagnificent is now fully esconced in my Apes pantheon.Eagerly awaiting the next episode! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Good Morning Everyone! This week's installment of THE MENDEZ DYNASTY is
> now available.
> To view the new MENDEZ biography, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home
> page or use this link:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm> .
>
> Have a great weekend everyone!
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
> * The Internal Website
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm> - Original
> POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and
> much, much more. * Lessons from the Lawgiver
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm> – Words
> of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. * Cornelius' Journal
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm> - The Memoirs
> of Dr. Cornelius. * Ape City Chronicles
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm> - The First
> 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil. * The Illustrated
> Monkey Planet <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MPC.htm>
> - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. *
> POTA Locations
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm> -
> The places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm> -
> Works of POTA Art by our members. * The Database Section
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> ranging from Characters to Comics. * The Photos Section
> <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos> - POTA pics
> contributed by members.
>

If you could change just one thing in the first Apes movie, what would it be? For me, the silly 'Yay, yay,yay' that Landon shouts when diving into the water has always annoyed me.It seems so out of character for the guy and I would love to rease the sound on those few seconds.John, Scrolls

<http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/03/12/isn%E2%80%99t-it-about-time-you-gave-tim-burton%E2%80%99s-planet-of-the-apes-another-chance/>


Dave

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Thanks John! I hope you still feel that way by the time we get to Mendez XXVI.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I'm really enjoying this saga.MendeMagnificent is now fully esconced in my Apes pantheon.Eagerly awaiting the next episode! John, Scrolls.
>

This juror votes Mr Burton guilty of raping cinema classic.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> <http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/03/12/isn%E2%80%99t-it-about-time-you-gave-tim-burton%E2%80%99s-planet-of-the-apes-another-chance/>
>
>
> Dave
>

I have too! Keep up the good work!

Zach




-------Original Message-------

From: jamesa1102
Date: 03/12/11 07:55:08
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: The Mendez Dynasty


Thanks John! I hope you still feel that way by the time we get to Mendez
XXVI.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I'm really enjoying this saga.MendeMagnificent is now fully esconced in my
Apes pantheon.Eagerly awaiting the next episode! John, Scrolls.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:

>
> <http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/03/12/isn%E2%80%99t-it-about-time-you-gave-tim-burton%E2%80%99s-planet-of-the-apes-another-chance/>
>
>
> Dave
>

Both sides of the argument have their points and misfires. Balance tends to be lost in these sorts of discussions, so it's good to see an article that presents both sides. The film certainly should have been better, and was expected to be considering the long wait, the director and the cast (well, the apes characters cast), but I enjoyed parts of it to be a little bit forgiving of its deficiencies. I just hope that Rise is better, although I'm fairly cynical it won't be that good, but we'll see.


Graham F

It is a bit generic but it was used for the Batphone too: http://www.clayloomis.com/Sounds/mail1/mail113.wav

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> 

>
> I don't know. I just checked it out. Sounds like just a generic "beeping" noise to me, but it could be the exact same Fox Sound Dept. "beeping" noise effect used in "Batman."
>

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Again I'm going to ask everyone to cool it on this subject and just agree to disagree. Thanks.

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:
>
> Don't worry maybe it will be put in novel form so you can use your "brilliant"
> imagination that's obviously better than that of any artist.
>
> BTW, a friend told me that Watchmen is in novel form. If that's the case you can
> read it and imagine Dr. Manhattan naked in your own way.
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: "Haristas@..." Haristas@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 10:20:15 AM
> Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
> OK, at the risk of getting beaten up for even mentioning comic books, has anyone
> here read this "Dracula: The Company of Monsters" by Daryl Gregory? If so, this

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On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Chris Sutton <apecityusa@...> wrote:

I would be interested as well in a Burke head, but it would have to be painted because I am not that talented. Jessica you mentioned Burke was tough to do, did you ever do a Virdon head scuplt & paint? If so, I would love to see him. Thanks, Chris Sutton

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I'd put Nova in a burka. Because that outfit has been driving me wild for the last 30 years. I can't take it no more!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> If you could change just one thing in the first Apes movie, what would it be? For me, the silly 'Yay, yay,yay' that Landon shouts when diving into the water has always annoyed me.It seems so out of character for the guy and I would love to rease the sound on those few seconds.John, Scrolls
>

I know you love 2001 as much or more than POTA but im tired of all the revisionist history that 2001 gets now (as opposed to then 1968)that its so great and historical and important. I do agree with your general premise and criticisms this time. Yes Kubrick never compromised and gave in and kept his vision but its a vision that can put one to sleep. Yes the special effects are great. To me they are the granddaddy of special effects films not really Science Fiction story telling. Like J.Lee Thompson said " if it doesnt have characters that you care about it has nothing". The only character in 2001 that had a personality was the HAL computer.
Its a shame , I always felt that Battle for the POTA and the TV series dumbed down the Apes (you would say it started with Beneath and you would not be totally wrong) and permanantly made them more a young persons film series than just a good intelligent film series. That is what and where we are now, and Burtons film added to the historical childishness that the Apes were and are burdened with.
It will be a tough sell in November. Lets hope the public will give "Apes" another chance. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> http://www.moviefone.co.uk/2011/03/12/12-essential-sci-fi-movies-you-should-see/
>
> I don't get the sense that the writers (the staff of Moviefone UK!?) really know the genre as well as they should to propose a list like this.
>
> They say of 2001, "Why It's Important: '2001: A Space Odyssey' is the granddaddy of all sci-fi films. Not in the sense that it was the genesis of the genre, but that it's the older, slower family figure that you're obligated to visit from time to time. Calling it slow is hardly a slight against the film, either -- it's just a simple truth. Stanley Kubrick's voyage into deep space is the embodiment of deliberate -- a movie that never, ever compromises its artistic vision. Yes, it may be a sluggish watch by today's breakneck standards, but it's an unquestionably incredible filmmaking accomplishment that pushed the sci-fi genre forward in irrevocable ways."
>
> Of course it's not the "granddaddy of all sci-fi films" (and the proper term is SF films, not sci-fi) -- the granddaddy of all SF films is Georges Melies' 1902 film A TRIP TO THE MOON.
>
> And 2001 did not push "the sci-fi genre forward in irrevocable ways." In fact, 2001 has largely been ignored by most SF filmmakers since it came out. It actually stands outside of the genre in general and was considered "a sluggish watch" on the very day it premiered. The thing they probably should have said is that it's perhaps the most misunderstood SF film of all time.
>
> They say, "Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner' is often considered the best science-fiction film of all time." Yeah, that's true, but not by anyone who really knows what they're talking about.
>
> And while they have nice things to say about PLANET OF THE APES, "Why It's Important: Forget Tim Burton's lifeless remake of this classic piece of sci-fi; Franklin J. Schaffner's original film is a brilliant and thrilling variant on the 'transplanted man' themes that often crop up throughout the genre. 'Planet of the Apes' most memorable scenes have been referenced and re-purposed so many times in pop culture that it may be hard for a sci-fi newbie to go into it with a clean slate, but take that only as a testament to how beloved a film it is," I'd rather they go into detail as to why it's "brilliant and thrilling" rather than say it's important simply because it's so beloved. That's kind of a back-handed compliment.
>
> A simple-minded article.
>

Yes, yes, yes!!! Because, when you think about it, as I often do, she'll STILL be totally naked under her clothes!Now if you'd said Burka in a Nova, that could have saved the TV Series! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <rthurbin1@...> wrote:
>
> I'd put Nova in a burka. Because that outfit has been driving me wild for the last 30 years. I can't take it no more!
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > If you could change just one thing in the first Apes movie, what would it be? For me, the silly 'Yay, yay,yay' that Landon shouts when diving into the water has always annoyed me.It seems so out of character for the guy and I would love to rease the sound on those few seconds.John, Scrolls
> >
>

One of the undiscovered Roddy gems is a short-lived series called 'The Fantastic Journey', from 1977.He played a nuanced, interesting scientist and, as it's so close to the Apes series, if you close your eyes it sounds like Galen at times.It only had 10 episodes but I loved it.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I loved Roddy in the Night Gallery pilot he plays a mean rotten creep and does it SO WELL!
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Roddy was a good creep (see SHOCK TREATMENT), at least that's what Sal Mineo's boyfriend says.
>

ARE the special effects THAT great in 2001? The Dawn Men look like men in suits, no matter what ACC had to say and sometimes in the opening scenes you can see ripples in the backdrop to the sound satge, like a big curtain.It's a seriously boring movie, really self indulgent, imho, and the book is a more rewarding experience.In terms of taking you to another world and getting you to suspend disbelief, Apes 1968 is a far superior film. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> I know you love 2001 as much or more than POTA but im tired of all the revisionist history that 2001 gets now (as opposed to then 1968)that its so great and historical and important. I do agree with your general premise and criticisms this time. Yes Kubrick never compromised and gave in and kept his vision but its a vision that can put one to sleep. Yes the special effects are great. To me they are the granddaddy of special effects films not really Science Fiction story telling. Like J.Lee Thompson said " if it doesnt have characters that you care about it has nothing". The only character in 2001 that had a personality was the HAL computer.
> Its a shame , I always felt that Battle for the POTA and the TV series dumbed down the Apes (you would say it started with Beneath and you would not be totally wrong) and permanantly made them more a young persons film series than just a good intelligent film series. That is what and where we are now, and Burtons film added to the historical childishness that the Apes were and are burdened with.
> It will be a tough sell in November. Lets hope the public will give "Apes" another chance. Take care, John M.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > http://www.moviefone.co.uk/2011/03/12/12-essential-sci-fi-movies-you-should-see/
> >
> > I don't get the sense that the writers (the staff of Moviefone UK!?) really know the genre as well as they should to propose a list like this.
> >
> > They say of 2001, "Why It's Important: '2001: A Space Odyssey' is the granddaddy of all sci-fi films. Not in the sense that it was the genesis of the genre, but that it's the older, slower family figure that you're obligated to visit from time to time. Calling it slow is hardly a slight against the film, either -- it's just a simple truth. Stanley Kubrick's voyage into deep space is the embodiment of deliberate -- a movie that never, ever compromises its artistic vision. Yes, it may be a sluggish watch by today's breakneck standards, but it's an unquestionably incredible filmmaking accomplishment that pushed the sci-fi genre forward in irrevocable ways."
> >
> > Of course it's not the "granddaddy of all sci-fi films" (and the proper term is SF films, not sci-fi) -- the granddaddy of all SF films is Georges Melies' 1902 film A TRIP TO THE MOON.
> >
> > And 2001 did not push "the sci-fi genre forward in irrevocable ways." In fact, 2001 has largely been ignored by most SF filmmakers since it came out. It actually stands outside of the genre in general and was considered "a sluggish watch" on the very day it premiered. The thing they probably should have said is that it's perhaps the most misunderstood SF film of all time.
> >
> > They say, "Ridley Scott's 'Blade Runner' is often considered the best science-fiction film of all time." Yeah, that's true, but not by anyone who really knows what they're talking about.
> >
> > And while they have nice things to say about PLANET OF THE APES, "Why It's Important: Forget Tim Burton's lifeless remake of this classic piece of sci-fi; Franklin J. Schaffner's original film is a brilliant and thrilling variant on the 'transplanted man' themes that often crop up throughout the genre. 'Planet of the Apes' most memorable scenes have been referenced and re-purposed so many times in pop culture that it may be hard for a sci-fi newbie to go into it with a clean slate, but take that only as a testament to how beloved a film it is," I'd rather they go into detail as to why it's "brilliant and thrilling" rather than say it's important simply because it's so beloved. That's kind of a back-handed compliment.
> >
> > A simple-minded article.
> >
>

I'd remove the part in which Taylor yells "I love you, Doctor Zaius," right after the kickline.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
> If you could change just one thing in the first Apes movie, what would it be? For me, the silly 'Yay, yay,yay' that Landon shouts when diving into the water has always annoyed me.It seems so out of character for the guy and I would love to rease the sound on those few seconds.John, Scrolls
>

I'd change the shot of the ship without the hatch before Dodge blows the hatch.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> If you could change just one thing in the first Apes movie, what would it be? For me, the silly 'Yay, yay,yay' that Landon shouts when diving into the water has always annoyed me.It seems so out of character for the guy and I would love to rease the sound on those few seconds.John, Scrolls
>

This may be a dumb question, but has anyone done Pez dispenser heads?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I have Virdon but I showed my girlfriend the sculpt and she said it does not
> look like him but to me he does. So he sits in a box incomplete. Alex also
> does a phenomenal job of painting. He will take care of you, Chris. And if
> this sculpt sells well, if we get enough buyers to pool together, he can be
> persuaded to sculpt Virdon as well, providing there is interest. His
> sculpting skills are phenomenal and definitely overshadow my meager skills.
> In addition, he is not a prima donna as Ada Chan is. It is only a matter of
> time before the world knows of his skills and then he will be out of our
> price range.
>
> Jess.
>

Thanks again William. You find the greatest stuff.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> dear group, here is a planet poster from italy 68 . from william burge
>

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I dont know who your dissagreeing with but the special effects that are always talked about are the outer space ones and they are wonderfull. I never cared for the film (its a sleeping pill for me) and if you read my post that is the gist of it. I respect the film and the "self indulgence" because all artist are self indulgent and its needed, weather its music, artistry, or movie making. My problem with 2001 is that, quite simply, its over rated to ME!
Funny how some critics back in the day thought the ape makeup in 2001 was better than POTA. Their big argument was the lip movement, I remember that critique quite well. I saw the Apes films and 2001(revival showings) back and forth during 1968-1973 many times and one thing I noticed was that the teenaged movie goers loved the light show when Bowman goes through all the demensions, I assume, because most of them were stoned and that was the best way to enjoy that scene. Kubrick had his own way of filmaking, and it was at times wonderful, but I did not care for his lambasting of POTA(alot about the preproduction antagonism with John Chambers) in some interviews and some articles I remember reading, it was infantle to me. Ant way, its all opinion, Take care , John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> ARE the special effects THAT great in 2001? The Dawn Men look like men in suits, no matter what ACC had to say and sometimes in the opening scenes you can see ripples in the backdrop to the sound satge, like a big curtain.It's a seriously boring movie, really self indulgent, imho, and the book is a more rewarding experience.In terms of taking you to another world and getting you to suspend disbelief, Apes 1968 is a far superior film. John, Scrolls.
>

I think somebody made fake PEZ disepensers using MEGO heads...



In a message dated 3/14/2011 8:27:31 AM Central Standard Time,
JamesA1102@... writes:

> This may be a dumb question, but has anyone done Pez dispenser heads?

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I like this theme. In the second movie I'd change the lame masks 90% of the audience is wearing during the Ursus speech. Especially the scarey-looking chimps. The camera should have been pulled back way further on those things. "it's a city of really unrealistic dudes in masks!"

Too bad we didnt have a George Lucas running the Apes pictures, then they could CGI them from our memories which I would agree with. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <rthurbin1@...> wrote:
>
> I like this theme. In the second movie I'd change the lame masks 90% of the audience is wearing during the Ursus speech. Especially the scarey-looking chimps. The camera should have been pulled back way further on those things. "it's a city of really unrealistic dudes in masks!"
>

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:24 PM, <mlccougar@...> wrote:

I think somebody made fake PEZ disepensers using MEGO heads...

In a message dated 3/14/2011 8:27:31 AM Central Standard Time,

JamesA1102@... writes:

> This may be a dumb question, but has anyone done Pez dispenser heads?

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Personally, I've always thought the 2001 outer space effects are ponderous and not much different to Space 1999.I love the book, dislike the movie and enjoyed Jack Kirby's comics (blast, I used the 'c' word).For me, the first Star Wars sets the benchmark for space ships.I think Apes was very clever in the way it all but avoided such model work. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> I dont know who your dissagreeing with but the special effects that are always talked about are the outer space ones and they are wonderfull. I never cared for the film (its a sleeping pill for me) and if you read my post that is the gist of it. I respect the film and the "self indulgence" because all artist are self indulgent and its needed, weather its music, artistry, or movie making. My problem with 2001 is that, quite simply, its over rated to ME!
> Funny how some critics back in the day thought the ape makeup in 2001 was better than POTA. Their big argument was the lip movement, I remember that critique quite well. I saw the Apes films and 2001(revival showings) back and forth during 1968-1973 many times and one thing I noticed was that the teenaged movie goers loved the light show when Bowman goes through all the demensions, I assume, because most of them were stoned and that was the best way to enjoy that scene. Kubrick had his own way of filmaking, and it was at times wonderful, but I did not care for his lambasting of POTA(alot about the preproduction antagonism with John Chambers) in some interviews and some articles I remember reading, it was infantle to me. Ant way, its all opinion, Take care , John M.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > ARE the special effects THAT great in 2001? The Dawn Men look like men in suits, no matter what ACC had to say and sometimes in the opening scenes you can see ripples in the backdrop to the sound satge, like a big curtain.It's a seriously boring movie, really self indulgent, imho, and the book is a more rewarding experience.In terms of taking you to another world and getting you to suspend disbelief, Apes 1968 is a far superior film. John, Scrolls.
> >
>

Well, it's official--just completed my census and my religion is now,officially, Simiantology.Now I have to write a Bible, found a priesthood and suppress all heresies.I may make me Lawgiver.John, Scrolls.

Yeah, some of the stories are a bit creaky, but it's pure 70s and has a tremendous charm when you get into it.Adding Roddy was a master stroke. I was looking at YouTube last week and watched the credits for Man From Atlantis, The Lost Islands, the live action Spidey and others and I just had a silly, contented grin on my face! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> I have that one too...someone taped these from TBS or somewhere for me years ago so I've got semi-decent set of episodes. Most of the stories are pretty awful but Roddy, as always, makes the best of things.
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: johnroche49 <johnroche49@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 6:43 am
> Subject: [pota] Re: roddy mcdowall
>
>
>
>
> One of the undiscovered Roddy gems is a short-lived series called 'The Fantastic Journey', from 1977.He played a nuanced, interesting scientist and, as it's so close to the Apes series, if you close your eyes it sounds like Galen at times.It only had 10 episodes but I loved it.John, Scrolls.
>

Hello John, dont even start me with Star Wars. I was 17-18 when it premiered and went to see it at my local mall when theaters were getting split up into home theater size venues and I saw nothing that I liked. To me it was the battle of Good and Evil that fans love. All films are about Good and Evil. It was silly to me and nothing more than what Lucas wanted, a trip back to his saturday morning serials but with better effects.
I was in the minority at that time but I didnt care. I loved arguing in college about these films and others. I preferred the Andromedia Strain-THX-1138-Westworld and Apes ofcourse. Even 2001 was in my view a leap above Star Wars in that it gave the viewer something to ponder. Alien was also boring but OK (Goldsmith).
The legacy of Star Wars was that it continued the interest in Sci-Fi that POTA and 2001 started and ofcourse the quality of film presentation in sound and vision which ironicaly was about just as good or better in the late 1950s. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Personally, I've always thought the 2001 outer space effects are ponderous and not much different to Space 1999.I love the book, dislike the movie and enjoyed Jack Kirby's comics (blast, I used the 'c' word).For me, the first Star Wars sets the benchmark for space ships.I think Apes was very clever in the way it all but avoided such model work. John, Scrolls.
>

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Well, it's official--just completed my census and my religion is now,officially, Simiantology.Now I have to write a Bible, found a priesthood and suppress all heresies.I may make me Lawgiver.John, Scrolls.

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Really? That's cool. Can you remember who it was?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> I think somebody made fake PEZ disepensers using MEGO heads...
>
>

Good suggestion. I second it!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <rthurbin1@...> wrote:
>
> I like this theme. In the second movie I'd change the lame masks 90% of the audience is wearing during the Ursus speech. Especially the scarey-looking chimps. The camera should have been pulled back way further on those things. "it's a city of really unrealistic dudes in masks!"
>

Congratulations! Does this mean we have to call you His Holiness now?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Well, it's official--just completed my census and my religion is now,officially, Simiantology.Now I have to write a Bible, found a priesthood and suppress all heresies.I may make me Lawgiver.John, Scrolls.
>

John, I'd join your church tomorrow if you formed one. That's pretty much the only religion I would ever want to have anything to do with.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
> Well, it's official--just completed my census and my religion is now,officially, Simiantology.Now I have to write a Bible, found a priesthood and suppress all heresies.I may make me Lawgiver.John, Scrolls.
>

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I agree with you Rory most of the time and in reading these posts they seem to be almost written by the same writter. I dont know why you feel Im against you. Anyway, have a nice day....John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
> And my opinion is that PLANET and 2001 are the two best SF movies ever made -- period! If that's overrating 2001, then I guess I also overrate PLANET too.
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:

>
> suppress all heresies.
>

And lo, the righteous did fling feces at the heretics.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Chris Hight <snickertown@...> wrote:

Okay. It sounds like he wants the money upfront. Thx for the update. --- On Tue, 3/15/11, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote: From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Burke & Virdon 1/6 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Cc: mlccougar@... Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 3:08 AM If you are interested in purchasing an unpainted resin cast of Burke sculpted by Alex Lopez, please send him $40 US through paypal: iconfigs@... I am getting nervous that the longer we wait to get our minimum order in, the busier he will be. I see that he is getting snagged by other freaksboard frequenters for their headsculpts that are not ape related. If you would like him to paint it for you, he can do so as well, but you will have to ask him what he charges. I have complete faith that he will achieve in capturing Burke's likeness. Jess.