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>>It has been a great week for POTA fans. To top it all off HBO will

>
> I don't know where it's going to lead to but I do hope that the apes look and
> act more evolved in a sequel when they begin to talk.
> As in the original apes. Otherwise it'll look as foolish as Burton's half
> evolved ape version.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Usually directors are burned out after a trilogy, and I'm sure this director wants to show a future society. My best guess would be the conquest (which he said he wanted to do next) and then maybe the future (20 centuries!) for a 3rd one. After that I will direct some.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shrstrategygames" <shrstrategygames@...> wrote:
>
> Supreme Dalek: "Ok, so by now we've all seen the trailer. It's obviously a reboot since in Escapse, we know that Aldo the gorilla is the first ape to refuse an order, saying no. We also know from Escape that the rise of the apes took centuries as they're minds evolved. The question here is: if Rise is a big success, if it gets a sequel, then where does it go? Into a world wide war with humanity that leads to a nuclear war, leaving the Apes in charge? Re-do the originl as the first sequel? Where does this lead to for a new series? Thoughts?"
>
> If the apes do indeed release a contagion that either dumbs down humans' intelligence or kills them outright, other nations might justifiably be tempted to nuke us in order to try to destroy the contagion.
>
> Even if no nuclear war is in the offing, if you've ever read the original book or watched the History Channel's adaption of it, the speculative documentary series entitled "Life After Man", then you already know that things could go badly enough for the apes without intelligent humans around because the apes wouldn't know how to prevent nuclear power plant meltdowns much less prevent or repair the deterioration of the infrastructure that holds up human civilization.
>
> And if the contagion actually dumbs down or kills humans outright, then there wouldn't be any humans left to teach and guide the still-evolving apes much less to show 'em the ropes.
>

>
> D'oh!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbPfXBp9wdE
>
>
> From: Jeff K.
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 6:11 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: All "Rise" #1: the story so far (possible spoilers)
>
>
> Of course, "leveling the playing field", especially when it comes to the end of human civilization, could be pretty bleak. But Wyatt insists, "At it's heart, it's a very hopeful film. There's some redemption to it, and for some reason, I think it's a very uncynical film. The cynical version of this would be to really echo Charlton Heston's words on the beach with seeing mankind's demise for all of it's worst traits...With this, it's kind of a more human story about certain personable decisions".

Both were the U.S. theatrical versions. I believe only Fox Movie Channel shows the uncut versions. 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@... wrote:
>
> I was out all day so I didn't see them. Anyone notice which version of
> BATTLE was shown? CONQUEST too for that matter, though I'm 99% sure it
> was the original cut.
>
> I hope that moratorium that Fox is apparently putting on the original
> five films starting August 1st doesn't include television/cable airings.
>
>
> Chris L.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Luiz Saulo Adami <apedami@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, dear Ape Friend!
>  
> do you can sent a copy of the RISE script (January, 2010) to me?
>  
> Thank you very much!
>  
> Saulo Adami
> From Brazil 
>
>

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Rise_of_the_Apes.pdf
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Rise_of_the_Apes.pdf>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> A pdf of the script has been uploaded to the group's Files section:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Rise_of_the_Apes.pdf

From: johnroche49 <johnroche49@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Apr 21, 2011 12:57:11 GMT+00:00
Subject: [pota] Re: Stuff

 

Personally, I've avoided the script.I spoiled my experience of Burton's movie by absorbing a bit too much in advance, even watching a bootleg before I saw it properly.A quarter of a century's frustration will do that to you.This time, I'm going to try, as much as possible, to give the new movie a fresh look, without too many preconceptions.
Yeah, riiiighhhht! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> A pdf of the script has been uploaded to the group's Files section:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Rise_of_the_Apes.pdf

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Personally, I've avoided the script.I spoiled my experience of Burton's movie by absorbing a bit too much in advance, even watching a bootleg before I saw it properly.A quarter of a century's frustration will do that to you.This time, I'm going to try, as much as possible, to give the new movie a fresh look, without too many preconceptions.
> Yeah, riiiighhhht! John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> > A pdf of the script has been uploaded to the group's Files section:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Rise_of_the_Apes.pdf
>

From: scottgeorge40 <segeorge98@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Apr 21, 2011 14:47:53 GMT+00:00
Subject: [pota] Re: Stuff

 

I think I'd like to read the script *after* I see the film.

I do my best to avoid spoilers as much as possible. I haven't seen the "Rise" trailer or even any photos (except for an accidental glance here and there -- I've even been avoiding directly looking at the current group photo!).

I like my first experience with a movie to be as fresh as possible, with as little hype, speculation, and reveled plot points as possible. Not overly easy when visiting internet fan sites.

Scott

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Morganbesser" <mhorg2018@...> wrote:
>
> Spoilers don't effect my liking/disliking a movie at all. I love trailers.
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: scottgeorge40 <segeorge98@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, Apr 21, 2011 14:47:53 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [pota] Re: Stuff
>
> I think I'd like to read the script *after* I see the film.
>
> I do my best to avoid spoilers as much as possible. I haven't seen the
> "Rise" trailer or even any photos (except for an accidental glance here and
> there -- I've even been avoiding directly looking at the current group
> photo!).
>
> I like my first experience with a movie to be as fresh as possible, with as
> little hype, speculation, and reveled plot points as possible. Not overly
> easy when visiting internet fan sites.
>
> Scott
>

 

I like my first experience with a movie to be as fresh as possible, with as little hype, speculation, and reveled plot points as possible. Not overly easy when visiting internet fan sites.

Scott

 

When I was a kid and going to the original POTA movies, all I knew was what I saw in the commercials.  I was too young when PLANET came out to know anything about movie magazines, but by the time of CONQUEST there was a movie magazine (can't recall the name) that would have a synopsis of some featured movie the month that that movie was coming out, so I did know the basic plots of CONQUEST and BATTLE before I saw them, though details weren't revealed until I actually saw the movies.

 

Nowadays, you have to work at keeping yourself uninformed.

 

-- Rory

From: shrstrategygames <shrstrategygames@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:58:32 GMT+00:00
Subject: [pota] A Non-Spoiler Poll For Readers of the "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" Script

 

Rob Morganbesser: "I read it (the pdf file of the 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' script). That's all I'm saying."

Come now, there are edifying and nonspoiler ways to discuss other aspects of the script in terms of its quality, plausibility, and whether one believes it to be a script worthy enough to aspire to become the first film in a new "Planet of the Apes" film series.

So, I invite readers who've already chosen to read the pdf file of the "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" script to consider answering the following questions in non-spoiler ways that might better enlighten those of us who choose to abstain from reading it whether we should hold great expectations for "Rise" OR perhaps should lower our expectations for it.

1. Upon reaching the end of the script, what adjectives best describe your feelings about the quality of the storyline/narrative and script for "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" that you'd just read?

2. Were the surprises in the storyline genuinely surprising OR did you feel that the narrative telegraphed (rather overtly hinted in all-too-obvious, not-so-subtle ways) the twists, turns and/or ending of the story?

3. Do you feel the human characters were properly developed in the script OR did you feel that they were given the short-shrift and were drawn too one-dimensionally?

4. Was the ape character of Caesar developed in such an intelligent way that you actually cared about him as a character?

5. Did the screenwriter handle the science-fiction elements of the storyline believably enough to make the storyline come off plausibly well?

6. Scenario: You are one of the studio honchos for 20th Century-Fox. At the outset of the meeting, the head of the studio says, "Now that you've had a chance to read the 'Rise of the Apes' script, several of you have already conveyed to me that this film could serve as a good reboot for another 'Planet of the Apes' film series. So, let's put the matter to a vote and I'll go by the board's decision: 'Based on the quality of this script, should "Rise of the Apes" be renamed "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" and serve as a springboard for a new "Planet of the Apes" film series?'"

You are the last executive on the board of directors to vote. When it comes your turn, the vote is now tied. Yours will be the decisive tie-breaking vote. How would you vote? And why?

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> False comparison. Unlike any of the Harry Potter books, "Rise of the
> Planet of the Apes" is not directly based on a prior-published major work of
> fantasy or science-fiction

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> Alex Ruiz: "(Reading the 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' script is} No different than reading a novel before the movie. And whatever is good enough for Harry Potter fans is good enough for us. :o) "

> James King: "False comparison. Unlike any of the Harry Potter books, 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' is not directly based on a prior-published major work of fantasy or science-fiction that was acclaimed for either the quality of its literary vision or for its adoration of readers making it an international best seller. The only dark-horse successes for screenplays published as novelizations well in advance of the release of their respective movies that I know of were David Seltzer's 'The Omen' published in early 1976 and George Lucas' 'Star Wars' published in December 1976. Science fiction author Alan Dean Foster ghost-wrote the novelization of the 'Star Wars' based on one of Lucas' earlier shooting scripts. Screenwriter David Seltzer wrote both the novelization and the screenplay for 'The Omen'. In both cases, the novelization did give readers reason to be guardedly optimistic about their respective forthcoming moviesw. However, as of this writing, it remains to be seen whether "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" is "good enough" by any reasonable cinematic metric based solely on its January 2010 screenplay. Indeed, based on the few forthcoming responses thus far to my non-spoiler poll about readers' reaction to the "Rise" screenplay, in my opinion, it seems far more reasonable at this time to consider lowering one's expectations than to be guardedly optimistic. At least that way, if the movie at least succeeds in rising above one's lowered expectations, it might not turn out to be such a disappointment after all even though it may have failed to live up to the legacy of the prior original 'Planet of the Apes' quintet of films."

> Alex Ruiz: "(Reading the 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' script is} No different than reading a novel before the movie. And whatever is good enough for Harry Potter fans is good enough for us. :o) "

> James King: "False comparison. Unlike any of the Harry Potter books, 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' is not directly based on a prior-published major work of fantasy or science-fiction that was acclaimed for either the quality of its literary vision or for its adoration of readers making it an international best seller. The only dark-horse successes for screenplays published as novelizations well in advance of the release of their respective movies that I know of were David Seltzer's 'The Omen' published in early 1976 and George Lucas' 'Star Wars' published in December 1976. Science fiction author Alan Dean Foster ghost-wrote the novelization of the 'Star Wars' based on one of Lucas' earlier shooting scripts. Screenwriter David Seltzer wrote both the novelization and the screenplay for 'The Omen'. In both cases, the novelization did give readers reason to be guardedly optimistic about their respective forthcoming moviesw. However, as of this writing, it remains to be seen whether "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" is "good enough" by any reasonable cinematic metric based solely on its January 2010 screenplay. Indeed, based on the few forthcoming responses thus far to my non-spoiler poll about readers' reaction to the "Rise" screenplay, in my opinion, it seems far more reasonable at this time to consider lowering one's expectations than to be guardedly optimistic. At least that way, if the movie at least succeeds in rising above one's lowered expectations, it might not turn out to be such a disappointment after all even though it may have failed to live up to the legacy of the prior original 'Planet of the Apes' quintet of films."

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> I think the real question is, how will these apes appear when they begin to
> speak in a sequel?
> If they look as real as this when speaking, it'll be a laugh a minute from start
> to finish. I know it'll make me laugh.
>
> They have to look more evolved for people to take it realisticly. For now it's
> good because they're mute with signs of intelligence.
> And that works out fine. But in the next step (sequel) they're going to be
> walking a very fine line. If they look as primitive as this, it could turn out
> to be the biggest comedy of the year.
>
> Al
>

From: Farrow <theskulpter@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Apr 25, 2011 18:06:49 GMT+00:00
Subject: [pota] Re: new "Rise of the POTA" poster?

 

Glad some of you are happy with the look of the Apes for the new film.I personally think the look SUCKS! Sure the Caesar Ape looks realistic ,and looks like a regular boring Ape that we see in every Ape style film or at the zoo.
That is what separated the look of Planet of the Apes from all other Ape films.Nothing will ever touch the original look created by Chambers.
Will I still go see it? Probably but I will look at it as a different film than the Planet of the Apes,and Frida Pinto is hot.
Thank God I will never tire of the original 5 films.

>
> Glad some of you are happy with the look of the Apes for the new film.I personally think the look SUCKS! Sure the Caesar Ape looks realistic ,and looks like a regular boring Ape that we see in every Ape style film or at the zoo.
> That is what separated the look of Planet of the Apes from all other Ape films.Nothing will ever touch the original look created by Chambers.
> Will I still go see it? Probably but I will look at it as a different film than the Planet of the Apes,and Frida Pinto is hot.
> Thank God I will never tire of the original 5 films.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Farrow" <theskulpter@...> wrote:
>
> Glad some of you are happy with the look of the Apes for the new film.I personally think the look SUCKS! Sure the Caesar Ape looks realistic ,and looks like a regular boring Ape that we see in every Ape style film or at the zoo.
> That is what separated the look of Planet of the Apes from all other Ape films.Nothing will ever touch the original look created by Chambers.
> Will I still go see it? Probably but I will look at it as a different film than the Planet of the Apes,and Frida Pinto is hot.
> Thank God I will never tire of the original 5 films.
>

>
> Not that it can't be that way, only that it would be laughable.
> Only becuse no one is used to seeing it that way. It's like that famous art
> work of the dogs paying poker. :o)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Glad some of you are happy with the look of the Apes for the new film.I personally think the look SUCKS! Sure the Caesar Ape looks realistic ,and looks like a regular boring Ape that we see in every Ape style film or at the zoo.
> That is what separated the look of Planet of the Apes from all other Ape films.Nothing will ever touch the original look created by Chambers.
> Will I still go see it? Probably but I will look at it as a different film than the Planet of the Apes,and Frida Pinto is hot.
> Thank God I will never tire of the original 5 films.
>
>
>
>
>
> The apes in the original movie were supposed to be evolved apes, not the ones we know in the real world. They were supposed to be apes evolved more toward men and because Chambers had to turn real human beings into these creatures, his makeup design followed that. He said so in interviews.
>
> One of the huge, and I mean HUGE, flaws with the sequels starting with ESCAPE is that we're supposed to accept that the apes look just like normal present day apes. There's no way that was easily accepted, except by children of that era, which we were. I don't know if the producers ever thought that they needed to alter the makeup design, but they probably didn't.
>
> CONQUEST is especially unrealistic in that you're asked to accept that if you merely take an ape out of the jungle it's then just a simple step from there to making him a pet or servant or slave. In the real world this could never happen. An ape simply wouldn't put up with it. Chimps and other apes used in show business, movies and TV were always baby or very young apes and what trainers could make them do was very limited and often very stressful to the animals. In fact, it was often cruelty plane and simple to make these animals perform. This is why the apes in this had to be CGI.
>
> This new movie is attempting to make the concept more scientifically plausible, and it's what I would do if I were in charge of Fox.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gort65" <gort65@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Farrow" <theskulpter@> wrote:
> >
> > Glad some of you are happy with the look of the Apes for the new film.I personally think the look SUCKS! Sure the Caesar Ape looks realistic ,and looks like a regular boring Ape that we see in every Ape style film or at the zoo.
> > That is what separated the look of Planet of the Apes from all other Ape films.Nothing will ever touch the original look created by Chambers.
> > Will I still go see it? Probably but I will look at it as a different film than the Planet of the Apes,and Frida Pinto is hot.
> > Thank God I will never tire of the original 5 films.
>
> I find it hard to understand this argument. Are you saying that the apes can never evolve their physical nature, but have to always look like the evolved apes of the original film, from the time they're enslaved to the time they rule outright, from living in the zoo to ruling through their Senate? I'm fine with the look in Rise, as long as that's a starting point and that over time the look evolves to a more humanoid one, much like the originals (although I would expect some changes to the look even there). Thing is, for me, Rise is fine with apes that sort of look like apes, because it's a starting point that leads to other places, including the look of the apes. It has to start with "regular boring" (ie, today) before it can move onto more fanciful and original paths.
>
>
> Graham
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> I agree to a point. The basis of the story is how it all started. Ofcourse they are going to look ordinary. They will if its a money maker have the apes change slowely into something more akin to the original series. If a sequel happens the apes will not be primitive looking like the Burton film because that is one of the major complaints and one of the major reasons this film was created. I agree that having apes that look normal start speaking would be laughable and be a death nell for the series. The look will change of the apes as their intelligence increases, just my educated hunch. I dont believe that Fox could screw it up twice, though they sort of did with the Predetor series.
> The apes will change in apearance because it makes sense and a large reason for CGI, if you look at the trailer the rows of apes are standing more upright (presuming that scene is at the end, it seems like it to me) and the whole premise of this new film was to tie it in with the exsisting original series with the new paradoxical begining of how it all started. Its really an update of the original series I feel with similiar sensibilities and a more intelligent and slightly more political slant than "Burtons summer action kiddie film". The summer is not just for kids its just easier to get them to the theater with no school. Kiddie fare is also released during the Christmas and thanksgiving holidays.
> Right now this is a hard nut to crack because we have been let down before but I feel we will be happy with the outcome as long as we dont forget that this is the first film in a new series that will progressivly get more violent, and more forboding. As far as the apes, they will get a look and feel more like the original series than the Burton remake.
> Now I wish someone from Fox said what I just said. Take care, John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Farrow" <theskulpter@> wrote:
> >
> > Glad some of you are happy with the look of the Apes for the new film.I personally think the look SUCKS! Sure the Caesar Ape looks realistic ,and looks like a regular boring Ape that we see in every Ape style film or at the zoo.
> > That is what separated the look of Planet of the Apes from all other Ape films.Nothing will ever touch the original look created by Chambers.
> > Will I still go see it? Probably but I will look at it as a different film than the Planet of the Apes,and Frida Pinto is hot.
> > Thank God I will never tire of the original 5 films.
> >
>

> One of the huge, and I mean HUGE, flaws with the sequels starting with
> ESCAPE is that we're supposed to accept that the apes look just like normal
> present day apes.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Glad some of you are happy with the look of the Apes for the new film.I personally think the look SUCKS! Sure the Caesar Ape looks realistic ,and looks like a regular boring Ape that we see in every Ape style film or at the zoo.
> That is what separated the look of Planet of the Apes from all other Ape films.Nothing will ever touch the original look created by Chambers.
> Will I still go see it? Probably but I will look at it as a different film than the Planet of the Apes,and Frida Pinto is hot.
> Thank God I will never tire of the original 5 films.
>
>
>
>
>
> The apes in the original movie were supposed to be evolved apes, not the ones we know in the real world. They were supposed to be apes evolved more toward men and because Chambers had to turn real human beings into these creatures, his makeup design followed that. He said so in interviews.
>
> One of the huge, and I mean HUGE, flaws with the sequels starting with ESCAPE is that we're supposed to accept that the apes look just like normal present day apes. There's no way that was easily accepted, except by children of that era, which we were. I don't know if the producers ever thought that they needed to alter the makeup design, but they probably didn't.
>
> CONQUEST is especially unrealistic in that you're asked to accept that if you merely take an ape out of the jungle it's then just a simple step from there to making him a pet or servant or slave. In the real world this could never happen. An ape simply wouldn't put up with it. Chimps and other apes used in show business, movies and TV were always baby or very young apes and what trainers could make them do was very limited and often very stressful to the animals. In fact, it was often cruelty plane and simple to make these animals perform. This is why the apes in this had to be CGI.
>
> This new movie is attempting to make the concept more scientifically plausible, and it's what I would do if I were in charge of Fox.
>

> If you read Boulle's book, the apes are apes, so I don't know. It's all
> in the presentation.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Farrow" <theskulpter@...> wrote:
>
> I really hope you are right, and they do look like the original Planet of the Apes in the next film.That would be incredible, but I will not get my hopes too high.
>

>> Alex Ruiz: "(Reading the 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' script is} No different than reading a novel before the movie. And whatever is good enough for Harry Potter fans is good enough for us. :o) "

>> James King: "False comparison. Unlike any of the Harry Potter books, 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' is not directly based on a prior-published major work of fantasy or science-fiction that was acclaimed for either the quality of its literary vision or for its adoration of readers making it an international best seller. The only dark-horse successes for screenplays published as novelizations well in advance of the release of their respective movies that I know of were David Seltzer's 'The Omen' published in early 1976 and George Lucas' 'Star Wars' published in December 1976. Science fiction author Alan Dean Foster ghost-wrote the novelization of the 'Star Wars' based on one of Lucas' earlier shooting scripts. Screenwriter David Seltzer wrote both the novelization and the screenplay for 'The Omen'. In both cases, the novelization did give readers reason to be guardedly optimistic about their respective forthcoming moviesw. However, as of this writing, it remains to be seen whether 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' is 'good enough' by any reasonable cinematic metric based solely onits January 2010 screenplay. Indeed, based on the few forthcoming responses thusfar to my non-spoiler poll about readers' reaction to the "Rise" screenplay, in my opinion, it seems far more reasonable at this time to consider lowering one's

> Alex Ruiz: "I believe that at the end of the day this movie is going to be a more serious-based drama than kiddie action movie. Which is why I know I'm really going to enjoy it."

> James King: "Based on *what*? Since I myself didn't invoke the term "kiddie action movie", I'm more inclined to infer that that was a Freudian slip on your part -- an unintended slip of the tongue that inadvertently provides a more truthful opinion -- based on your own reading of the "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" acript.

Aaron Sims has updated his site with his RISE concept photos along with one new one.

Follow the link and see the attachment:

 

http://www.aaron-sims.com/

 

Al

 

 

I don't see how anyone could look at this latest photo and not be impressed.  You couldn't do this with an actor and prosthetics (note the low forehead).

 

<Caesar.jpg src=>

 

For me this does raise a question: Will the photo-realistic CGI in RISE be so good, that it'll make the original '68 movie look that much more ancient?

 

I don't think the original will ever date to the point that it becomes hard to watch, but the makeup is now more quaint, but it still works, but now in the same way the the character makeup in THE WIZARD OF OZ still works.  You know that it's just men in costumes, but you easily accept it.  Still, you have to wonder what some young people now unaware of the '68 original will think of it if they watch it for the first time after seeing RISE.

 

-- Rory

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> FYI
>
>
>
>
>
> Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.movieline.com/2011/04/the-5-act
> ors-with-the-most-to-prove-this-summer.php&ct=ga&cad=CAEQAhgAIAAoATAAOABAoOn
> W7QRIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=N13RAb5v3nA&usg=AFQjCNGkPuwRsdXDI7S0PHbUQMdpsgvXkg>
> The 5 Actors With the Most to Prove This Summer
> Movieline
> The movie(s): Rise of the Planet of the Apes (Aug. 5) The challenge: Rebuild
> Hollywood profile after the one-two punch of failures that were his
> Oscar-hosting gig and Your Highness. How to do it: How quickly we forget,
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> Thanks to the release of the awesome, James Franco-starring Rise of the
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> You sound like a broken record. "Transformers" stuck to the "amazing look" and it sucked. John Chambers wasn't happy with the "amazing look" of the pullover masks in "Beneath".
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Looks like "Ape" fever is starting early. The "Rise of the POTA" trailer is being given some of the credit, so hopefully you Grumbling Garys will note that a successful "Rise" raises all boats.
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> http://geek-news.mtv.com/2011/04/25/planet-of-the-apes-1-sells-out/
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