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| Group: pota |
Message: 65347 |
From: James |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65348 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65349 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65350 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65351 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: RISE Question |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65352 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Conquest of the U.K. |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65353 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65354 |
From: knightangel314 |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65355 |
From: Pawfan |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65356 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65357 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< RISE Question |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65358 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65359 |
From: georgetaylor68 |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Mexico and Brazil: Rise's Sept. release date of Sept. 2nd |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65360 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65361 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65362 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65363 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65364 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Mexico and Brazil: Rise's Sept. release date of Sept. 2nd |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65365 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Rise is doing what it set out to do! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65366 |
From: James |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: FW: planet photos |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65367 |
From: knightangel314 |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65368 |
From: RonHatter |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Scene from "DESTINY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65369 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65370 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Ape Central |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65371 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65372 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65373 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65374 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65375 |
From: Pawfan |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65376 |
From: JEREMIAH APE |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65377 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65378 |
From: James |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65379 |
From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65380 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< RISE Question |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65381 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65382 |
From: Robert Mansell |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65383 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65384 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65385 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65386 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65387 |
From: jsurphlis |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: just wondering |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65388 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Central |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65389 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65390 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65391 |
From: monkeymermaid65 |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65392 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65393 |
From: Robert Mansell |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65394 |
From: dave |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Noooooooo! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65395 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65396 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65397 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65398 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65399 |
From: Jeff Barkley |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: just wondering |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65400 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Noooooooo! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65401 |
From: Robert Mansell |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: just wondering |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65402 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: just wondering |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65403 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: >SPOILER< "Rise" stuff |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65404 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65405 |
From: James |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65406 |
From: dave |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: RISE AGAIN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65407 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65408 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Noooooooo! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65409 |
From: Zaki Hasan |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Re: My interview with RISE writers |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65410 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Caesar, Conquest, Rise! Dont mention 2001 apes!!! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65411 |
From: Emperor Palpatine |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Forbidden Zone????? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65412 |
From: James |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: FW: ape photos |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65413 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: OT: Freida Pinto's "Trishna" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65414 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FW: ape photos [3 Attachments] |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65415 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65416 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES, 8/19/2011, 7:00 am |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65417 |
From: knightangel314 |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: My interview with RISE writers |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65418 |
From: Emperor Palpatine |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Forbidden Zone????? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65419 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65420 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65421 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: CONSPIRACY |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65422 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Finally |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65423 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: The Mendez Dynasty |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65424 |
From: James |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65425 |
From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FW: ape photos [3 Attachments] |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65426 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65427 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Francis |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65428 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65429 |
From: Dario |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65430 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65431 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Francis |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65432 |
From: chimel23@comcast.net |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: The Mendez Dynasty |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65433 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65434 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65435 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Francis |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65436 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65437 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65438 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65439 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65440 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65441 |
From: James |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: FW: planet photos |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65442 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65443 |
From: knightangel314 |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65444 |
From: Dario |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65445 |
From: Dario |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: OT Fright Night |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65446 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Sorry James if I caused any problems! Very important Not apes but ha |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65347 |
From: James |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes" | |
| | Planet of the Apes: Trophies By Scott Beale Follow @laughingsquid. Here are a few other possibly related posts you might enjoy: - Planet of the Apes vs. A Giant Squid. -
Planet of the Apes Party Fun Time. - Urban Trophies by Tonyland at Space Gallery ... Laughing Squid | Rewind: Planet of the Apes (1968) Blaze Astronaut Charlton Heston crash lands on this planet of the apes
and discovers things are not to his liking (well, he wouldn't would he?) He quickly wins the heart of two maverick chimps, whose scientific views are at odds with the establishment, ... See all stories on this topic » |
Rise of the Planet of the Apes: A Response | The Hairpin By Lisa Hanawalt I don't get it. Why do people love monkeys so much? Chimpanzees aren't cute, they look like old men with hormonal imbalances, and they're uncanny and creepy. Plus, their hair looks wiry and unpleasant to touch, doesn't it? The Hairpin |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65348 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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I'm asking because I wonder if we can start talking about it now without all these spoiler worries.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65349 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date |
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I guess I underestimated this film... While it didn't do as well in its
second weekend, it kept its number 1 spot so my prediction was off...
I overestimated it, but I'm not unhappy. It's a surprise hit not just at the boxoffice, but I think it's the best reviewed movie of the summer.
So, have you seen it, Cougar?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65350 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date |
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I think "Rise" could be # 1 next weekend too. "Fright Night"? "Conan"? Those seem like niche market films. "Rise" didn't set the box office on fire but I think people will continue to file in because of word of mouth and repeats. People genuinely seem to like the film.
RISE isn't over making money. I think it'll end up making more than POTA2001 did, but it's just too bad we're in such bad economic times right now, otherwise I think it would be doing much better.
I don't know what idiots think we need a new CONAN movie, that has me stumped. But, if the buzz on FRIGHT NIGHT is very good, I expect it to beat CONAN. THE HELP is still a wild card. It could land in second or third place ahead of RISE. RISE, as I said before, will either be number 3 or 4 at the boxoffice next weekend, taking in probably another $15 to $20 Million.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65351 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: RISE Question |
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Is Will Rodman a good guy or a bad guy in RISE? Is he a male Zira, with a bit of Armando and MacDonald thrown in? I'm actually leaning towards him being a bad guy.John, Scrolls.
That was what I thought was one of the underdeveloped parts of the script. He was morally ambiguous. Creating an advanced chimpanzee is really creating a new species of chimpanzee. Not exactly the right thing to do when you aren't able to take complete responsibility for it. I think the filmmakers just didn't want to get into it and so glossed over it.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65352 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Conquest of the U.K. |
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Looks like RISE did very well in the UK, where it toppled Harry Potter. COWBOYS & ALIENS has yet to open there, but I don't see it being much competition.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65353 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
.htmlI think Mexico and Brazil don't get to see the film until Sept. 2...? Jess. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:
I'm asking because I wonder if we can start talking about it now without all these spoiler worries.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65354 |
From: knightangel314 |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
.htmlI still have mixed thoughts on it being a prequel per se. I'm willing to accept it as an origin story, but then how did everything in the Sacred Scrolls, the stuff that Zira related in Escape, get so changed?
Mel
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shrstrategygames" <shrstrategygames@...> wrote:
>
> Jeff K.: "Rupert Wyatt went pretty in depth about his ideas for the sequel to "Rise of the POTA" with Ed Gross
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> > http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/apecentral/news/?a=43720
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> "And has been repeating it elsewhere
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> > http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50723
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> "It would be set about 8 years after 'Rise' and follow the further adventures of Caesar (and maybe Will). He talks about the next generation of apes being young soldiers in a 'Full Metal Jacket' type of scenario ('that kind of urban environment not dissimilar to Western forces going into Baghdad. Remember when the soldiers were finding gold telephones in Hussein's home? It would be the same way that the apes would understand our species through what we've created'. He also has the idea that maybe the humans have to move underground a la '12 Monkeys' because of the situation established in 'Rise' (>cough!<). This could certainly be seen as the beginning of what became the mutants (Wyatt says this universe is a direct prequel to the Heston film). But more interestingly, it would give the apes free reign over our old stuff, buildings, etc. In essence,
> what Boulle's original novel was like, where the apes just basically replaced us..... Anyway, Wyatt's idea also sounds very 'Battle' (as 'Rise' was 'Conquest'): 'Whereas the story of the first film plays out as a fairy tale, the next film will play out as a Shakespearean sci-fi drama where you'll have Caesar as the leader of this revolution, but Koba would be the one leading his own troops wanting to wipe out humans in a genocide. But Caesar is more conflicted, and maybe Caesar needs Koba's assistance in terms of the conflict. And Maurice is his advisor and he's telling him to combine forces. Caesar needs the allegiance of the two, although he doesn't believe in what Koba believes in, which is complete genocide'. Koba is the nasty medical experiment vet who pushes the helicopter off the bridge in 'Rise'. His relationship with Caesar sounds like that of Aldo in 'Battle'. Maurice is the sign language orangutan
who could be
> the smart Virgil type. If the humans have to go underground because of 'that thing', Wyatt envisions them wearing gas masks on the surface, and says, 'In a way, that would dehumanize them and would make us REALLY follow the apes. That's what interests me. This shouldn't be the apes as our enemy, this should be about the idea of a
> whole new civilization coming into being'."
>
> On the contrary, I think it's quite possible for there to be a faction among the apes who considers humans to be an enemy to be extermiated altogether as well as a faction among the humans who scapegoat the escaped apes as the cause of the bio-holocaust and wants to target the apes for extermination as well.
>
> It also stands to reason that if researcher Will Rodman survives that he would seek the apes to request their aid in saving humanity by asking them for blood samples to study in order to discover a possible solution for the continuing bio-holocaust. Think what a moral quandary that would put Caesar in since he essentially is a bridge between both humans and apes.
>
> I really would expect that Maurice the orangutang's character might develop into that of a more Machiavellian ape who'd be much more likely to secretly side with Korba, the vengeful experimental-lab chimp vet, while publicly pretending to defer to Caesar's rule. After all, since it's the orangutangs who ran things in the original "Planet of the Apes", it's the orangutangs who've got to do something dramatic behind the scenes during this prehistory phase in order to emerge later as the de-facto ruling powers.
>
> That's right: Rise's Caesar must be eventually be de-throned if you're going to develop a future more like that of the original "Planet of the Apes". Some orangutang leader must subplant Caesar.
>
> What's more, as both the "Life After People" book and the History Channel TV series make perfectly clear, the post-human-dominated world would be subject to a toxic soup of chemical and radioactive pollution. So, the apes do need some human mentors to guide them if they themselves are to survive in that post-bio-holocaust world. (The radioactive fallout would not be from bombs but from nuclear plants going into meltdown mode.)
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65355 |
From: Pawfan |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
> So has everyone here seen RISE now or what?
>
> Just askin'
>
A friend and I saw it at the Cinerama Dome Friday night.
Overall,....We enjoyed it! Liked how the apes looked. WETA
renedered them out nicely.
The film seemed a bit short though. The story really seemed
a bit 'RAW' in spots....Not fully 'PREPARED' to taste. One
person mentioned that the 'Director's Cut' may fix those 'RAW'
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65356 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
.htmlI like that point of view...origin story instead of prequel. I think I can handle that. Jess. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:58 AM, knightangel314 <chimel23@...> wrote:
I still have mixed thoughts on it being a prequel per se. I'm willing to accept it as an origin story, but then how did everything in the Sacred Scrolls, the stuff that Zira related in Escape, get so changed?
Mel
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shrstrategygames" <shrstrategygames@...> wrote:
>
> Jeff K.: "Rupert Wyatt went pretty in depth about his ideas for the sequel to "Rise of the POTA" with Ed Gross
>
> > http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/apecentral/news/?a=43720
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> "And has been repeating it elsewhere
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> > http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50723
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> "It would be set about 8 years after 'Rise' and follow the further adventures of Caesar (and maybe Will). He talks about the next generation of apes being young soldiers in a 'Full Metal Jacket' type of scenario ('that kind of urban environment not dissimilar to Western forces going into Baghdad. Remember when the soldiers were finding gold telephones in Hussein's home? It would be the same way that the apes would understand our species through what we've created'. He also has the idea that maybe the humans have to move underground a la '12 Monkeys' because of the situation established in 'Rise' (>cough!<). This could certainly be seen as the beginning of what became the mutants (Wyatt says this universe is a direct prequel to the Heston film). But more interestingly, it would give the apes free reign over our old stuff, buildings, etc. In essence,
> what Boulle's original novel was like, where the apes just basically replaced us..... Anyway, Wyatt's idea also sounds very 'Battle' (as 'Rise' was 'Conquest'): 'Whereas the story of the first film plays out as a fairy tale, the next film will play out as a Shakespearean sci-fi drama where you'll have Caesar as the leader of this revolution, but Koba would be the one leading his own troops wanting to wipe out humans in a genocide. But Caesar is more conflicted, and maybe Caesar needs Koba's assistance in terms of the conflict. And Maurice is his advisor and he's telling him to combine forces. Caesar needs the allegiance of the two, although he doesn't believe in what Koba believes in, which is complete genocide'. Koba is the nasty medical experiment vet who pushes the helicopter off the bridge in 'Rise'. His relationship with Caesar sounds like that of Aldo in 'Battle'. Maurice is the sign language orangutan
who could be
> the smart Virgil type. If the humans have to go underground because of 'that thing', Wyatt envisions them wearing gas masks on the surface, and says, 'In a way, that would dehumanize them and would make us REALLY follow the apes. That's what interests me. This shouldn't be the apes as our enemy, this should be about the idea of a
> whole new civilization coming into being'."
>
> On the contrary, I think it's quite possible for there to be a faction among the apes who considers humans to be an enemy to be extermiated altogether as well as a faction among the humans who scapegoat the escaped apes as the cause of the bio-holocaust and wants to target the apes for extermination as well.
>
> It also stands to reason that if researcher Will Rodman survives that he would seek the apes to request their aid in saving humanity by asking them for blood samples to study in order to discover a possible solution for the continuing bio-holocaust. Think what a moral quandary that would put Caesar in since he essentially is a bridge between both humans and apes.
>
> I really would expect that Maurice the orangutang's character might develop into that of a more Machiavellian ape who'd be much more likely to secretly side with Korba, the vengeful experimental-lab chimp vet, while publicly pretending to defer to Caesar's rule. After all, since it's the orangutangs who ran things in the original "Planet of the Apes", it's the orangutangs who've got to do something dramatic behind the scenes during this prehistory phase in order to emerge later as the de-facto ruling powers.
>
> That's right: Rise's Caesar must be eventually be de-throned if you're going to develop a future more like that of the original "Planet of the Apes". Some orangutang leader must subplant Caesar.
>
> What's more, as both the "Life After People" book and the History Channel TV series make perfectly clear, the post-human-dominated world would be subject to a toxic soup of chemical and radioactive pollution. So, the apes do need some human mentors to guide them if they themselves are to survive in that post-bio-holocaust world. (The radioactive fallout would not be from bombs but from nuclear plants going into meltdown mode.)
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Message: 65357 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< RISE Question |
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In one of the "making of"s there's a voiceover of
Rodman saying, "What have I done?". Maybe there is a scene where he deals with
the guilt but it was cut (though he doesn't know he's responsible for
crippling the human race). He does say, "I'm sorry, this is my fault". But he
seemed more concerned about Caesar then about the riot he caused. He was chasing
his monkey like Wahlberg did.
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:18 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: RISE Question
Is Will Rodman a good guy or a
bad guy in RISE? Is he a male Zira, with a bit of Armando and MacDonald thrown
in? I'm actually leaning towards him being a bad guy.John,
Scrolls.
That was what I thought was one of the underdeveloped parts of the
script. He was morally ambiguous. Creating an advanced chimpanzee is
really creating a new species of chimpanzee. Not exactly the right thing
to do when you aren't able to take complete responsibility for it. I think
the filmmakers just didn't want to get into it and so glossed over
it.
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Message: 65358 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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No, I was asking Jessica...Well?
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Well, are we all together
now?
I think Mexico and Brazil don't get to see the film until Sept.
2...?
Jess.
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:
I'm asking because I wonder if we
can start talking about it now without all these spoiler worries.
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Message: 65359 |
From: georgetaylor68 |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Mexico and Brazil: Rise's Sept. release date of Sept. 2nd |
.htmlMexico celebrates its annual Independence Day on September 15th, so the Sept. 2nd release date that you mentioned seems potentially shrewdly selected. As for Brazil, I'm not sure what's motivating the same release date there. Perhaps piracy theft fears remain a major concern there, too?
As a side note, Brazil (Latin America's largest economy and population) reportedly had 10 times more African slaves than the U.S. during the slavery era. If that's true then Rise could be very popular there. Or perhaps considerably less so, since the "minority" isn't as much of a "minority," meaning fewer people might find such "abrasive" topics to be appealing. The jungle scene may also strike a nerve there, too (or not... since taking from the wild may be more accepted there)...
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> I think Mexico and Brazil don't get to see the film until Sept. 2...?
>
> Jess.
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > Well?
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> > I'm asking because I wonder if we can start talking about it now without
> > all these spoiler worries.
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Message: 65360 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
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The Sacred Scrolls could've got the story
wrong.
Oh no thank you. I'm not going to get into that
battle.
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:58 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise"
sequel
I still have mixed thoughts on it being a prequel per se. I'm willing to
accept it as an origin story, but then how did everything in the Sacred Scrolls,
the stuff that Zira related in Escape, get so changed?
Mel
--- In
pota@yahoogroups.com,
"shrstrategygames" <shrstrategygames@...> wrote:
> > Jeff K.:
"Rupert Wyatt went pretty in depth about his ideas for the sequel to "Rise of
the POTA" with Ed Gross > > > href="http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/apecentral/news/?a=43720">http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/apecentral/news/?a=43720
> > "And has been repeating it elsewhere > > > href="http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50723">http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50723
> > "It would be set about 8 years after 'Rise' and follow the
further adventures of Caesar (and maybe Will). He talks about the next
generation of apes being young soldiers in a 'Full Metal Jacket' type of
scenario ('that kind of urban environment not dissimilar to Western forces going
into Baghdad. Remember when the soldiers were finding gold telephones in
Hussein's home? It would be the same way that the apes would understand our
species through what we've created'. He also has the idea that maybe the humans
have to move underground a la '12 Monkeys' because of the situation established
in 'Rise' (>cough!<). This could certainly be seen as the beginning of
what became the mutants (Wyatt says this universe is a direct prequel to the
Heston film). But more interestingly, it would give the apes free reign over our
old stuff, buildings, etc. In essence, > what Boulle's original novel was
like, where the apes just basically replaced us..... Anyway, Wyatt's idea also
sounds very 'Battle' (as 'Rise' was 'Conquest'): 'Whereas the story of the first
film plays out as a fairy tale, the next film will play out as a Shakespearean
sci-fi drama where you'll have Caesar as the leader of this revolution, but Koba
would be the one leading his own troops wanting to wipe out humans in a
genocide. But Caesar is more conflicted, and maybe Caesar needs Koba's
assistance in terms of the conflict. And Maurice is his advisor and he's telling
him to combine forces. Caesar needs the allegiance of the two, although he
doesn't believe in what Koba believes in, which is complete genocide'. Koba is
the nasty medical experiment vet who pushes the helicopter off the bridge in
'Rise'. His relationship with Caesar sounds like that of Aldo in 'Battle'.
Maurice is the sign language orangutan who could be > the smart Virgil
type. If the humans have to go underground because of 'that thing', Wyatt
envisions them wearing gas masks on the surface, and says, 'In a way, that would
dehumanize them and would make us REALLY follow the apes. That's what interests
me. This shouldn't be the apes as our enemy, this should be about the idea of
a > whole new civilization coming into being'." > > On the
contrary, I think it's quite possible for there to be a faction among the apes
who considers humans to be an enemy to be extermiated altogether as well as a
faction among the humans who scapegoat the escaped apes as the cause of the
bio-holocaust and wants to target the apes for extermination as well. >
> It also stands to reason that if researcher Will Rodman survives that
he would seek the apes to request their aid in saving humanity by asking them
for blood samples to study in order to discover a possible solution for the
continuing bio-holocaust. Think what a moral quandary that would put Caesar in
since he essentially is a bridge between both humans and apes. > >
I really would expect that Maurice the orangutang's character might develop into
that of a more Machiavellian ape who'd be much more likely to secretly side with
Korba, the vengeful experimental-lab chimp vet, while publicly pretending to
defer to Caesar's rule. After all, since it's the orangutangs who ran things in
the original "Planet of the Apes", it's the orangutangs who've got to do
something dramatic behind the scenes during this prehistory phase in order to
emerge later as the de-facto ruling powers. > > That's right:
Rise's Caesar must be eventually be de-throned if you're going to develop a
future more like that of the original "Planet of the Apes". Some orangutang
leader must subplant Caesar. > > What's more, as both the "Life
After People" book and the History Channel TV series make perfectly clear, the
post-human-dominated world would be subject to a toxic soup of chemical and
radioactive pollution. So, the apes do need some human mentors to guide them if
they themselves are to survive in that post-bio-holocaust world. (The
radioactive fallout would not be from bombs but from nuclear plants going into
meltdown mode.) >
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Message: 65361 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date |
.htmlIn a message dated 8/16/2011 11:22:48 AM Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
> I overestimated it, but I'm not unhappy. It's a surprise hit not just at
> the boxoffice, but I think it's the best reviewed movie of the summer.
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> So, have you seen it, Cougar?
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Message: 65362 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
.html.html I think the film was edited really really well. Enough to tell a complete story while keeping you completely glued.
Also the shorter the film, the more viewings Fox will have at cinemas. It is late in the summer so I'm sure Fox had to give that some thought.
But yeah, an extended version on Bluray?. Bring it! The more the merrier. :o)
This movie was so well edited and keeps you so glued that the last time I saw it (third time) I had to go the restroom half way through the film and holded on til the end of the movie. Even though I already seen it. Now that says a lot! lol
Al
From: Pawfan <teddypawpad@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: [pota] Re: Well, are we all together now?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > So has everyone here seen RISE now or what? > > Just askin' > A friend and I saw it at the Cinerama Dome Friday night. Overall,....We enjoyed it! Liked how the apes looked. WETA renedered them out nicely. The film seemed a bit short though. The story really seemed a bit 'RAW' in spots....Not fully 'PREPARED' to taste. One person mentioned that the 'Director's Cut' may fix those 'RAW' missing bits to make the story more full......Just my thought.
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Message: 65363 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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I think the film was edited really really well. Enough to tell a complete story while keeping you completely glued.
Also the shorter the film, the more viewings Fox will have at cinemas. It is late in the summer so I'm sure Fox had to give that some thought.
But yeah, an extended version on Bluray?. Bring it! The more the merrier. :o)
This movie was so well edited and keeps you so glued that the last time I saw it (third time) I had to go the restroom half way through the film and holded on til the end of the movie. Even though I already seen it. Now that says a lot! lol
Al
oops. Make that "held on" :o)
From: Pawfan <teddypawpad@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: [pota] Re: Well, are we all together now?
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > So has everyone here seen RISE now or what? > > Just askin' > A friend and I saw it at the Cinerama Dome Friday night. Overall,....We enjoyed it! Liked how the apes looked. WETA renedered them out nicely. The film seemed a bit short though. The story really seemed a bit 'RAW' in spots....Not fully 'PREPARED' to taste. One person mentioned that the 'Director's Cut' may fix those 'RAW' missing bits to make the story more full......Just my thought.
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Message: 65364 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Mexico and Brazil: Rise's Sept. release date of Sept. 2nd |
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Adami, my dear Ape friend, says "Rise" will be
released in Brazil on Aug. 26th.
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: [pota] Mexico and Brazil: Rise's Sept. release date of
Sept. 2nd
Mexico celebrates its annual Independence Day on September 15th, so the
Sept. 2nd release date that you mentioned seems potentially shrewdly selected.
As for Brazil, I'm not sure what's motivating the same release date there.
Perhaps piracy theft fears remain a major concern there, too? As a side
note, Brazil (Latin America's largest economy and population) reportedly had 10
times more African slaves than the U.S. during the slavery era. If that's true
then Rise could be very popular there. Or perhaps considerably less so, since
the "minority" isn't as much of a "minority," meaning fewer people might find
such "abrasive" topics to be appealing. The jungle scene may also strike a nerve
there, too (or not... since taking from the wild may be more accepted there)...
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com,
jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
> > I think Mexico
and Brazil don't get to see the film until Sept. 2...? > >
Jess. > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, <Haristas@...>
wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > >
> Well? > > > > I'm asking because I wonder if we can start
talking about it now without > > all these spoiler worries. >
> > > > > > > >
> >
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Message: 65365 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Rise is doing what it set out to do! |
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Even though we all feel a kinship with the Apes films and many of us(though less than I thought, myself,Rory and Im not sure who else) were their at the begining-1968, the purpose really was to create a new audience and to my SURPRISE FOX and the writing team and Wyatt have done it. Young people, or people not involved like most of us and under 30's, are slowely but surely going to create a new up to date series and knoweledge of the original five will not be needed. This is what FOX wanted and most of the writers etc., wanted no matter what we think. Burtons film I feel destroyed(though the public are alittle to hard on his film)what little enthusiasm from oldies over 40's were to have on any furthur Apes films in general. Their arent that many, though where ever I go in NY lines are all over the place so my observation may be wrong, Apes fans to make the kind of money that Fox needed to make enough money to warrent a new series. To repeat myself-
yeah their are many numbers of old Apes fans but the purpose was to create new intrest in a new series and they have done it. They(everyone associated with the film) have done something that I never would have bet could happen, many, many new young enthusiastic young fans, many with blogs, and they really do like this film.
Even with all the so called easter eggs in this film for us original fans to chuckle at, so many other fan bases are getting the "In" jokes, so the original apes series really are ingrained in the worlds collective zeitgist and that makes me so happy. Its not just a Star Wars, Star Trek and Super heroe and Harry Potter world after all. Im probably naive in my old way(51 very soon) but my demographic are the ones buying the software(Blu-rays,DVD,books)so we should not be ignored just yet. The business practice of film series making, which Im happy, maybe, to say tne Apes started all those years ago, is starting anew. Who would of guessed that men who lived in the depression and fought in WWII and made us spoiled brats and created this series of films, are still viable in the year 2011 and beyond is amazing to me. As usual sorry for the long post, take care, John M. <.html
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Message: 65366 |
From: James |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: FW: planet photos |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:02 PM Subject: planet photos dear group, here are two planet photos. from william burge
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Message: 65367 |
From: knightangel314 |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
.htmlI'm reluctant to get into it either...I know it was going on somewhere, but I forget if it was this list or the other. But I understand how intense it can get lol.
Mel
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> The Sacred Scrolls could've got the story wrong.
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> Oh no thank you. I'm not going to get into that battle.
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Message: 65368 |
From: RonHatter |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Scene from "DESTINY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES" |
.htmlhere is a scene currently in the process of being animated, it's really only the opening of a much bigger scene.
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Message: 65369 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/16/2011 |
| Subject: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
.htmlThe Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and "well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues. I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).
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Message: 65370 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Ape Central |
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Ed ("POTA Revisited") Gross has debuted his new
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Message: 65371 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
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I still have mixed thoughts on it being a prequel per se. I'm willing to accept it as an origin story, but then how did everything in the Sacred Scrolls, the stuff that Zira related in Escape, get so changed?
Mel
I think, if we don't want to be like "continuity" geek nerds, we should try and be too literal with POTA. The inconsistencies in the series are legion.
I look at RISE as both a prequel and a reboot, and so it's going to revise things said in the original series, and you know what?
I really couldn't care less. Just go with it and don't think about it too much, unless your name is Patrick. RISE is probably making him go crazy.
-- Rory
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Message: 65372 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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A friend and I saw it at the Cinerama Dome Friday night.
Overall,....We enjoyed it! Liked how the apes looked. WETA
renedered them out nicely.
The film seemed a bit short though. The story really seemed
a bit 'RAW' in spots....Not fully 'PREPARED' to taste. One
person mentioned that the 'Director's Cut' may fix those 'RAW'
missing bits to make the story more full......Just my thought.
That was my reaction as well. I think the movie could have been fifteen to thirty minutes longer.
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Message: 65373 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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I think the film was edited really really well. Enough to tell a complete story while keeping you completely glued.
Also the shorter the film, the more viewings Fox will have at cinemas. It is late in the summer so I'm sure Fox had to give that some thought.
But yeah, an extended version on Bluray?. Bring it! The more the merrier. :o)
This movie was so well edited and keeps you so glued that the last time I saw it (third time) I had to go the restroom half way through the film and holded on til the end of the movie. Even though I already seen it. Now that says a lot! lol
Al
Go see it again and wear a Depends.
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Message: 65374 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
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The Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and "well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues. I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).
http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/
They changed the rules again this year about how many films can be nominated for Best Picture. They raised it from five to ten the last couple years, but now the Academy says it could be "between five and ten." So, I'm not so sure about RISE getting nominated for Best Picture, but it's possible. The Academy wants ratings so they may allow a couple popular movies to be among the nominees. RISE hasn't a chance of winning though, but it was sure better than THOR or SUPER 8 or CAPTAIN AMERICA, and I hear it's better than TREE OF LIFE!
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Message: 65375 |
From: Pawfan |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and "well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues. I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/
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Message: 65376 |
From: JEREMIAH APE |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions? |
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Anyway, I've really enjoyed reading everyone's posts. I love reading posts from subject matter experts who know what they're talking about and Apes fans definitely do!! I get a little nuts reading some of the IMDB boards to the point that I want to bang my head on something really hard! I was reading the Rise of the Planet of the Apes boards today and it really makes me wish a boulder would fall on me. I can't believe there are that many ignorant people out there. The one continuing post on IMDB that drives me nuts is when posters say things like "how does this fit in with Burton's 2001 film" or "I watched the film and I can't wait to see how Leo's crew fits in here," etc. etc. UGH!!!!!!!!
It's really funny to see their reactions when they find out there was a film series that began in 1968 and that Rise is a re-boot to the original Apes mythology.
Some of the Burton posts are almost as bad as the ones that call our beloved 1968 orginal a B movie!!!! If they actually watched the original they would change their minds. I really think a lot of folks already have their own set opinions and have really never seen any of the old films--but they're just criticizing.
But I'm ranting. Rise was excellent in my opinion and quite a new take on how to re-start the franchise. I do have a few of my own little gripes--very little--about the film but I'll have to wait until everyone sees it before I mention it here. Some of the scenes seem like they were edited heavily--a few spots where parts seemed like they were cut out completely. One of those involved the neighbor.
It would be interesting however to see how they can handle a sequel. I'd like to see if they can do something to fit in a Heston-type character in the future. Question is--who could do it? There are very few folks who can pull that off today. Harrison Ford when he was younger? Sure, but he's too old now. One poster on IMDB suggested Daniel Craig but I'm not so sure. The guy from the Transporter? I'm not sure if he's that great an actor. Any suggestions? <.html
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Message: 65377 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
.htmlLOL!! On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 8:56 PM, <Haristas@...> wrote:
I think the film was edited really really well. Enough to tell a complete story while keeping you completely glued.
Also the shorter the film, the more viewings Fox will have at cinemas. It is late in the summer so I'm sure Fox had to give that some thought.
But yeah, an extended version on Bluray?. Bring it! The more the merrier. :o)
This movie was so well edited and keeps you so glued that the last time I saw it (third time) I had to go the restroom half way through the film and holded on til the end of the movie. Even though I already seen it. Now that says a lot! lol
Al
Go see it again and wear a Depends.
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Message: 65378 |
From: James |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes" | |
| | Rise of the Planet of the Apes takes over UK box office The Guardian (blog) Andy Serkis as Caesar in Rise of the
Planet of the Apes. Photograph: WETA Digital/20th Century Fox When Twentieth Century Fox's Rise of the Planet of the Apes opened the first weekend of August in the US with $55m (£33.6m), the UK arm of the studio ... See all stories on this topic » |
iPad Hip With Apes Now Complex.com (blog) By Devin Chanda, | Aug 16, 2011 | 9:26 am | Permalink Sure, you may have thought that Rise of the Planet of the Apes was a nice popcorn flick. Well, for those that previously doubted that our evolutionary predecessors were never plotting to avenge the ...
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Message: 65379 |
From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
.htmlLet's keep the spoiler considerations in place until Sunday. That's enough time for most people to have seen the film.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > > Well? > I'm asking because I wonder if we can start talking about it now without all these spoiler worries. >
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Message: 65380 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< RISE Question |
.htmlOr maybe he's just the epitome of selfish, arrogant science, not really caring about the consequences? I don't see Rodman as a good guy--but that's not a criticism of the film.Will Rodman is a very recognisable, human type. John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> In one of the "making of"s there's a voiceover of Rodman saying, "What have I done?". Maybe there is a scene where he deals with the guilt but it was cut (though he doesn't know he's responsible for crippling the human race). He does say, "I'm sorry, this is my fault". But he seemed more concerned about Caesar then about the riot he caused. He was chasing his monkey like Wahlberg did.
>
>
> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:18 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: RISE Question
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> Is Will Rodman a good guy or a bad guy in RISE? Is he a male Zira, with a bit of Armando and MacDonald thrown in? I'm actually leaning towards him being a bad guy.John, Scrolls.
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>
> That was what I thought was one of the underdeveloped parts of the script. He was morally ambiguous. Creating an advanced chimpanzee is really creating a new species of chimpanzee. Not exactly the right thing to do when you aren't able to take complete responsibility for it. I think the filmmakers just didn't want to get into it and so glossed over it.
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Message: 65381 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
.htmlThe Guardian newspaper web page mentioned a 'best picture' possiblity for RISE straight away.I would like to think that could happen, but I'm doubtful.Aren't the numbers of nominations higher next time? I'm,personally, more optimistic that Andy Serkis will get a nod.He's brilliant in the role and maybe the whole industry needs to recognise the new technology that's shaping modern movies? No surprise Apes toppled Potter in the UK--we LOVE our Apes over here!!!!! John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and "well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues. I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/
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Message: 65382 |
From: Robert Mansell |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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Hey, I ain't been to the cinema yet and I just watched it, there are
always ways, lol.
Robert Mansell
On 17/08/2011 11:42, pota-owner@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Let's keep the spoiler
considerations in place until Sunday. That's enough
time for most people to have seen the film.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
>
> Well?
> I'm asking because I wonder if we can start talking
about it now without all these spoiler worries.
>
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Message: 65383 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
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.html Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls. <.html
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Message: 65384 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
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To get a Best Picture nomination now, a movie has
to get a certain number of votes. That "Deadline" article (they know their
stuff) said a movie needs at least 300 #1 votes as Best Picture. So if 300
people think "Rise" is the Best Picture of the year it's probably in.
Another movie that got raves is "Project Nim",
which has a good shot at the documentary category. Maybe that will keep "Rise"
on people's minds as well.
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:21 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well
received"
The Guardian newspaper web page mentioned a 'best picture' possiblity for
RISE straight away.I would like to think that could happen, but I'm
doubtful.Aren't the numbers of nominations higher next time? I'm,personally,
more optimistic that Andy Serkis will get a nod.He's brilliant in the role and
maybe the whole industry needs to recognise the new technology that's shaping
modern movies? No surprise Apes toppled Potter in the UK--we LOVE our Apes over
here!!!!! John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K."
<veetus@...> wrote:
> > The Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar
people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for
members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and
"well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The
controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues.
I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as
John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).
> > href="http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/">http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/ >
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Message: 65385 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise" |
.html.html I might be mistaken but isn't the bay window design...the one that Caeser draws in his cell and shows up on a stop sign during the revolution....very similar to the Ape Management logo in Conquest? Can't find a pic of that.... Tim
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:19 PM
Subject: [PotaDG]
>SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise"
The "Rise of the POTA" screenwriters take us
through the various references to the POTA mythology in the new movie. Some were
bothered by them, I enjoyed them and felt they were mostly subtle.
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Message: 65386 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
.htmlThere's this! http://www.fnac.com/La-planete-des-s...es/cp10144/w-4 On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:41 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:
Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65387 |
From: jsurphlis |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: just wondering |
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Message: 65388 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Ape Central |
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Ed ("POTA Revisited") Gross has debuted his new POTA website "Ape Central":
I wish someone would track down Buck Kartalian and ask him if he's seen RISE and how he felt seeing Buck the gorilla.
Would be nice to hear from Natalie Trundy, Lou Wagner and Linda Harrison too, and I'd like to know if Richard Zanuck is happy for Fox?
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Message: 65389 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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Hey, I ain't been to the cinema yet and I just watched it, there are always ways, lol.
Robert Mansell
That's nothing to brag about here. I have a love/hate relationship with the modern 20th Century Fox studio, but rob them where APES is concerned?
NEVER!!!!
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Message: 65390 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions? |
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It would be interesting however to see how they can handle a sequel. I'd like to see if they can do something to fit in a Heston-type character in the future. Question is--who could do it? There are very few folks who can pull that off today. Harrison Ford when he was younger? Sure, but he's too old now. One poster on IMDB suggested Daniel Craig but I'm not so sure. The guy from the Transporter? I'm not sure if he's that great an actor. Any suggestions?
I think Fox has a lot of work ahead of them with APES. The next movie will have to be bigger and better -- and truly so, or else they could lose the franchise just as they're getting it back.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65391 |
From: monkeymermaid65 |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
.htmlI've been looking too and haven't seen much out there. The closest I've seen to a toy is a custom made car sold to nascar fans. I saw it on ebay but is no longer listed. Don't know squat about nascar, but the "Rise of the Planet of the Apes car" came in 27th in some big race.
http://www.tomydrissi.com/news/no-37-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-ford-finishes-27th-at-i.html"
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls.
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65392 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
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Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls.
My guess is you'll have to wait for the baboons running Fox to wake up to the fact they've got a major hit and their APES franchise finally up and running. Everyone was stung by the 2001 fiasco and a lot of companies had to eat their POTA merchandize. My hunch is wait for the sequel. The momentum is going to build over the next few years.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65393 |
From: Robert Mansell |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now? |
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The wife will not watch any of the ape films at all, the talking
apes freak her...
Will buy the official DVD when it comes out.
Robert Mansell
My Ebay Auctions
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/football-posters-direct/m.html"
My Amazon Items
http://www.amazon.co.uk/shops/mrspireite
On 17/08/2011 17:52, Haristas@... wrote:
Hey, I ain't been to the cinema yet and I just
watched it, there are always ways, lol.
Robert Mansell
That's nothing to brag about here. I have a
love/hate relationship with the modern 20th Century
Fox studio, but rob them where APES is concerned?
NEVER!!!!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65394 |
From: dave |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Noooooooo! |
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.html I read somewhere (can't remember where) prior to the movie's release that Caesar's cry of "No" would be Roddy's voice sampled and altered.
Does anyone know if that was true?
Dave <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65395 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel |
.htmlThe changing of history is simple. Even though in reality it was probably just lazy writing it can also be interpeted as how we create our own history. The winners get to to write history for their own ends. Just thrown out their, John M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I still have mixed thoughts on it being a prequel per se. I'm willing to accept it as an origin story, but then how did everything in the Sacred Scrolls, the stuff that Zira related in Escape, get so changed?
>
> Mel
>
>
>
>
> I think, if we don't want to be like "continuity" geek nerds, we should try and be too literal with POTA. The inconsistencies in the series are legion.
>
> I look at RISE as both a prequel and a reboot, and so it's going to revise things said in the original series, and you know what?
>
> I really couldn't care less. Just go with it and don't think about it too much, unless your name is Patrick. RISE is probably making him go crazy.
>
> -- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65396 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received" |
.htmlIm happy as hell that the UK like Apes. I always knew it from my early Ape years. I have relitives that live in Newcastle -upon- tyne. Thats near Scotland isnt it or is it where the wall that Rome built or both. Take care brother, John M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> The Guardian newspaper web page mentioned a 'best picture' possiblity for RISE straight away.I would like to think that could happen, but I'm doubtful.Aren't the numbers of nominations higher next time? I'm,personally, more optimistic that Andy Serkis will get a nod.He's brilliant in the role and maybe the whole industry needs to recognise the new technology that's shaping modern movies? No surprise Apes toppled Potter in the UK--we LOVE our Apes over here!!!!! John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > The Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and "well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues. I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).
> >
> > http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/
> >
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Message: 65397 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise" |
.htmlIve seen Conquest fully(get a life) about 100 times atleast and dont remember no logos except for the armbands for apes at the Comand Post. Im probably wrong, I forget details alot easier lately, Take care, John M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I might be mistaken but isn't the bay window design...the one that Caeser draws in his cell and shows up on a stop sign during the revolution....very similar to the Ape Management logo in Conquest? Can't find a pic of that....
> Tim
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65398 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions? |
.htmlAgree with both posts especially Haristas. Take Care, John M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> It would be interesting however to see how they can handle a sequel. I'd like to see if they can do something to fit in a Heston-type character in the future. Question is--who could do it? There are very few folks who can pull that off today. Harrison Ford when he was younger? Sure, but he's too old now. One poster on IMDB suggested Daniel Craig but I'm not so sure. The guy from the Transporter? I'm not sure if he's that great an actor. Any suggestions?
>
>
>
> I think Fox has a lot of work ahead of them with APES. The next movie will have to be bigger and better -- and truly so, or else they could lose the franchise just as they're getting it back.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65399 |
From: Jeff Barkley |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: just wondering |
.htmlThere were NO real apes or actors in make up or puppets ...ALL cgi
On Aug 17, 2011 10:07 AM, "jsurphlis" < littlejohn57@...> wrote: > other then the baby chimp, that was ceasar, were all of the apes in the movie c.g.i. thanks john
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65400 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Noooooooo! |
.htmlCornelius I thought only said NO! In Escape and the video tape of it in Battle, I could be wrong, Take care, John M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> I read somewhere (can't remember where) prior to the movie's release that Caesar's cry of "No" would be Roddy's voice sampled and altered.
>
> Does anyone know if that was true?
>
> Dave
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Message: 65401 |
From: Robert Mansell |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: just wondering |
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I must admit only the close up CGI worked for me, but then I really
hate CGI.
Robert Mansell
On 17/08/2011 21:01, Jeff Barkley wrote:
There were NO real apes or actors in make up or puppets
...ALL cgi
On Aug 17, 2011 10:07 AM,
"jsurphlis" < littlejohn57@...>
wrote:
> other then the baby chimp, that was ceasar, were all
of the apes in the movie c.g.i. thanks john
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65402 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: Re: just wondering |
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They did have an animatronic baby Caesar on
set (seen in the clip below) but replaced it with CG.
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] just wondering
There were NO real apes or actors in make up or puppets ...ALL cgi
On Aug 17, 2011 10:07 AM, "jsurphlis" < littlejohn57@...> wrote: > other then the baby chimp, that was ceasar, were all of
the apes in the movie c.g.i. thanks john >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65403 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/17/2011 |
| Subject: >SPOILER< "Rise" stuff |
| Group: pota |
Message: 65404 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
.htmlWell, they certainly HAVE got a hit on their hands.For a non 3D movie with a modest budget and a fairly restrained marketing campaign,RISE has performed brilliantly at the box office and with the critics.From what I've read,RISE opened bigger in the UK than Burton's Apes did--despite that barrage of publicity with Burton.And the film is still doing well.Happy days.Now give me my novel, cards and toys.John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
>
> My guess is you'll have to wait for the baboons running Fox to wake up to the fact they've got a major hit and their APES franchise finally up and running. Everyone was stung by the 2001 fiasco and a lot of companies had to eat their POTA merchandize. My hunch is wait for the sequel. The momentum is going to build over the next few years.
>
> -- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65405 |
From: James |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
| Group: pota |
Message: 65406 |
From: dave |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: RISE AGAIN |
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.html Saw it again last night and enjoyed even more than the 1st time. There's still those plot holes but hey... the originals weren't watertight.
Spoiler
I had a thought (happens now and again).
Instead of the viral effect on humans being some kind of Flu, how about if they had written it so Alzheimer's mutated into something contagious.
Not that they seem too concerned about continuity but it might help explain the devolution of mankind by 3978.
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Message: 65407 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
.htmlMMMmmmmmmm....that's very tempting, Jess---any idea what the cost is in human money and is there an English version? John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> There's this!
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> http://www.fnac.com/La-planete-des-s...es/cp10144/w-4<http://www.fnac.com/La-planete-des-singes-les-origines/cp10144/w-4>
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> > Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for
> > ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets
> > and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of
> > trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely
> > wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying
> > my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy
> > them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for
> > looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING
> > BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65408 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Noooooooo! |
.htmlGalen tells Urko 'No' in Escape from Tomorrow, I think.Also, there'll be a 'No' to Fauna in The Deception.This is an unspeakably cool concept about Roddy's voice---hope it's true.Somebody else has mentioned to me that Will's car is the same as Lewis Dixon's in Escape---any idea if that's right? I DO know for a fact that Wahlberg's performance in Apes 2001 was incorporated this time around as the third branch from the top in the fifth tree at the back in Muir Wood.John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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> I read somewhere (can't remember where) prior to the movie's release that Caesar's cry of "No" would be Roddy's voice sampled and altered.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65409 |
From: Zaki Hasan |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Re: My interview with RISE writers |
.htmlAn abridged version of my interview with Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver is now a featured article at Huffington Post. Check it out if you haven't already, then read the unedited version at my site!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65410 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Caesar, Conquest, Rise! Dont mention 2001 apes!!! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65411 |
From: Emperor Palpatine |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Forbidden Zone????? |
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.html Does ANYONE have a POTA Forbidden Zone #4 they'd be willing to sell me or know where I can find a copy? It completes my POTA comic collection. I looked all over. I have paypal.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65412 |
From: James |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: FW: ape photos |
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.html .html-----Original Message----- From: William Burge
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:00 PM Subject: ape photos
dear group, here are some neat apes photos from william burge<.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65413 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: OT: Freida Pinto's "Trishna" |
.htmlDespite the acclaim "Rise of the POTA" has had, Freida Pinto hasn't really shared in it since she's been considered superfluous to the movie. Here's a movie that might show her acting chops. "Trishna" has been described as an Indian version of "Tess of the d'Urbervilles" and premieres next month at the Toronto Film Festival.
And maybe there'll be a meatier role for her in the "Apes" sequel.
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/08/trishna_trailer_freida_pinto.html" <.html
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Message: 65414 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FW: ape photos [3 Attachments] |
.htmlTHANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:58 PM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
[Attachment(s) from James included below]
-----Original Message----- From: William Burge Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:00 PM Subject: ape photos
dear group, here are some neat apes photos from william burge
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65415 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65416 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 8/18/2011 |
| Subject: ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES, 8/19/2011, 7:00 am |
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ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65417 |
From: knightangel314 |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: My interview with RISE writers |
| Group: pota |
Message: 65418 |
From: Emperor Palpatine |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Forbidden Zone????? |
.htmlI'm also looking for Terror on the POTA comic #4. If anyone has those two or one or the other of the comics I'd be willing to pay. Thanks!
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Emperor Palpatine" <locutusatwolf359@...> wrote:
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> Does ANYONE have a POTA Forbidden Zone #4 they'd be willing to sell me or know where I can find a copy? It completes my POTA comic collection. I looked all over. I have paypal.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65419 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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It's another weekend already and things are
looking bad for "Rise of the POTA". After two weekends on top, here come three
semi-big movies to try to knock it off it's perch. "Rise" is kind of a
remake of "Conquest" and two of the 3 have histories with "Conquest" actors.
"Fright Night" is a remake of the movie that had perhaps Roddy's most famous
latter day role: horror host Peter Vincent. "Spy Kids 4" continues the franchise
that gave Ricardo Montalban a new generation of fans (also, director Robert
Rodriguez turned down POTA twice: in the '90's as well as "Rise" itself).
There's also a new "Conan the Barbarian"; the 1982 original had Ah-nuld as star
and Oliver Stone as credited writer (though none of his work was used) and the
duo almost reunited for POTA in the mid-90's.
Add to that the continued success of "The Help"
(which has been beating "Rise" all week) and the apes have their work cut out
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65420 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY |
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It's interesting that we live in a "star wars merchandise" world where we
just expect there to be lots of product tied-in to a new movie
but remember that none of the original 5 films had a big wave of
merchandise
in fact there was almost nothing for those 5 films beyond paperback
novelizations, theatre posters, a couple soundtracks and 1 bubblegum card
set
In 2001 they put out a huge wave of product that most of it I'm not sure
even made it to wal-mart etc
even though I personally ordered all of it it seemed at the time that
nobody else wanted it LOL
I have a feeling if they would have put out lots of new product then they
would have overhyped it all
and it may not have reached the right audience
I'm not sure how they decide to market a wave of products and toys to 50
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65421 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: CONSPIRACY |
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.html I had my Conspiracy of the POTA today and it's a very pleasant surprise.I've read the first couple of chapters and really enjoyed them.I've failed to resist the temptation to flick through the illustrations and they are gorgeous--some of them really evoke the covers of Marvel's mag.The series of Forbidden Zone paintings make me wish I could wallpaper my home in it! And there's a Steranko cover!!! It's a sumptuous publication and ,personally, I love it.Congratulations to Drew and crew--I'm eagerly awaiting the sequel!! John, Scrolls. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65422 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Finally |
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I finally really saw it. You Maniacs! But seriously...
I enjoyed it. I wanted the crowds to die down a bit,
so I waited, and went on a weekday night. Who knew
The Help would be on Oprah's book list or something.
Except for a scattering of people in the back it was empty.
But I enjoyed it. Even my gal, who's not a fan enjoyed it
too, and said the trailers didn't do it justice. I did feel the
CG was a bit distracting. But kudos to Andy and the WETA
gang for getting me to feel emotionally engaged by a computer
generated character. Which is more than some live action
actors can do. Mark Wahlberg comes to mind. Though
it is a bit lacking, in that no one's going to want an action
figure of a real ape, or show up at a Halloween party as a
real ape. But I I'd rather have decent movie than a
load
of toy tien-ins. Ewoks killed Star Wars, remember? I was
a little disappointed that some scenes were missing. Much
like Cornelia went missing soon after her character was
introduced
with virtually no development at all. But Fox now doubt wanted to keep
the pace brisk -- long films don't get a lot of audience turn
over. All in
all an enjoyable movie going experience, though if I see it again I'd
rather
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65423 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: The Mendez Dynasty |
.htmlGood morning everyone! This week's installment of THE MENDEZ DYNASTY is now online.
To read the new MENDEZ biography, click on the banner on the Yahoo! home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm.
Have a great weekend everyone!
Visit all the Group's special features including:
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65424 |
From: James |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65425 |
From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FW: ape photos [3 Attachments] |
.htmlGreat ones!!!
Thanks for sharing.
2011/8/18 James <JamesA1102@...>
[Attachment(s) from James included below]
-----Original Message----- From: William Burge Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:00 PM Subject: ape photos
dear group, here are some neat apes photos from william burge
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65426 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise" |
.htmlThe logos used in Conquest are on the armbands and are, I think, black on yellow stylised egg timers, because they were the patches used in the earlier tv series, The Time Tunnel.Personally, I don't think the window design from RISE is 'an homage' but it could be!John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
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> Ive seen Conquest fully(get a life) about 100 times atleast and dont remember no logos except for the armbands for apes at the Comand Post. Im probably wrong, I forget details alot easier lately, Take care, John M.
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
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> > I might be mistaken but isn't the bay window design...the one that Caeser draws in his cell and shows up on a stop sign during the revolution....very similar to the Ape Management logo in Conquest? Can't find a pic of that....
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65427 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Francis |
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.html Something I've never seen anybody else mention: on my second viewing
of RISE, I noticed that during one scene in the primate center, the
TVs are showing scenes from one of the "Francis the Talking Mule"
movies!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65428 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
.html.html Apes greatest threat will be "Fright Night."
At least the rating on Rotten Tomatoes seem to indicate that.
Al
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:47 AM Subject: [pota] Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
It's another weekend already and things are looking bad for "Rise of the POTA". After two weekends on top, here come three semi-big movies to try to knock it off it's perch. "Rise" is kind of a remake of "Conquest" and two of the 3 have histories with "Conquest" actors. "Fright Night" is a remake of the movie that had perhaps Roddy's most famous latter day role: horror host Peter Vincent. "Spy Kids 4" continues the franchise that gave Ricardo Montalban a new generation of fans (also, director Robert Rodriguez turned down POTA twice: in the '90's as well as "Rise" itself). There's also a new "Conan the Barbarian"; the 1982 original had Ah-nuld as star and Oliver Stone as credited writer (though none of his work was used) and the duo almost reunited for POTA in the mid-90's.
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Message: 65429 |
From: Dario |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
.html.html I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening and it was quite good. Rise has had it's turn at the top of the box office. The next great surge in popularity we can anticipate will be when the BR/DVDs hit the shelves.
Dario Sent from my iPad
On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
Apes greatest threat will be "Fright Night."
At least the rating on Rotten Tomatoes seem to indicate that.
Al
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:47 AM Subject: [pota] Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
It's another weekend already and things are looking bad for "Rise of the POTA". After two weekends on top, here come three semi-big movies to try to knock it off it's perch. "Rise" is kind of a remake of "Conquest" and two of the 3 have histories with "Conquest" actors. "Fright Night" is a remake of the movie that had perhaps Roddy's most famous latter day role: horror host Peter Vincent. "Spy Kids 4" continues the franchise that gave Ricardo Montalban a new generation of fans (also, director Robert Rodriguez turned down POTA twice: in the '90's as well as "Rise" itself). There's also a new "Conan the Barbarian"; the 1982 original had Ah-nuld as star and Oliver Stone as credited writer (though none of his work was used) and the duo almost reunited for POTA in the mid-90's.
Add to that the continued success of "The Help" (which has been beating "Rise" all week) and the apes have their work cut out for them staying on top this weekend.
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Message: 65430 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
.html> I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening
> and it was quite good.
Are you a fan of the original? From the trailers I've seen, it looks
like they've completely botched everything that I love about the
original.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65431 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Francis |
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In the credits they also mention "How I Met Your
Mother" (maybe just audio?).
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:54 AM
Subject: [pota] Francis
Something I've never seen anybody else mention: on my second viewing of
RISE, I noticed that during one scene in the primate center, the TVs are
showing scenes from one of the "Francis the Talking
Mule" movies!
Hunter
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65432 |
From: chimel23@comcast.net |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: The Mendez Dynasty |
.html.html This is the first time I've read through these, and I'm enjoying it. But it looks like there's a skip...this week's is the Albina VI and VIII with Mendez XVIII coming after. However, this one isn't on the list, it just skips from Mendez XVI to Mendez XVIII. Are they not being done entirely in order, or have you just not got the links all up yet? I'm curious because I don't want to miss any.
Mel
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Message: 65433 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise" |
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The nods to the original POTA films are well
known now butsomeone made a video about them. Heads-up courtesy www.apecentral.net
And...is it a conspiracy <o>?
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Message: 65434 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise" |
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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise"
The nods to the original POTA films are well
known now butsomeone made a video about them. Heads-up courtesy www.apecentral.net
And...is it a conspiracy <o>?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65435 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Francis |
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Something I've never seen anybody else mention: on my second viewing
of RISE, I noticed that during one scene in the primate center, the
TVs are showing scenes from one of the "Francis the Talking Mule"
movies!
Hunter
The scenes they show are, I believe, all credited at the end of the movie, but I'll have to wait until I get the Blu-ray.
By the way, Hunter, I don't agree with your statement to the BBC that RISE is just a Fox movie with "Planet of the Apes" slapped on the title. No, it may not have the kind of strong links to the older movies, and it may not credit Pierre Boulle along with the screenwriters, but it's an APES movie.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65436 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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It's another weekend already and things are looking bad for "Rise of the POTA". After two weekends on top, here come three semi-big movies to try to knock it off it's perch. "Rise" is kind of a remake of "Conquest" and two of the 3 have histories with "Conquest" actors. "Fright Night" is a remake of the movie that had perhaps Roddy's most famous latter day role: horror host Peter Vincent. "Spy Kids 4" continues the franchise that gave Ricardo Montalban a new generation of fans (also, director Robert Rodriguez turned down POTA twice: in the '90's as well as "Rise" itself). There's also a new "Conan the Barbarian"; the 1982 original had Ah-nuld as star and Oliver Stone as credited writer (though none of his work was used) and the duo almost reunited for POTA in the mid-90's.
Add to that the continued success of "The Help" (which has been beating "Rise" all week) and the apes have their work cut out for them staying on top this weekend.
It won't stay on top. According to Boxoffice Mojo, daily this week RISE has only been doing half the business it was doing last week. But' it'll keep making money for a while.
The era of RISE as a theatrical movie is coming to a close.
Now the wait for the Blu-ray/DVD begins, and the wait for news of a sequel.
-- Rory
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Message: 65437 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening and it was quite good. Rise has had it's turn at the top of the box office. The next great surge in popularity we can anticipate will be when the BR/DVDs hit the shelves.
Dario
And I'm sill hoping for a new Blu-ray Edition of PLANET will the restoration we read about last November. I hope they put just PLANET out in one of those Blu-ray Book packagings.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65438 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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Talk about taking the allegory too far!
What's next? Alex in Maimi telling everyone, "Watch RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES, and then let's get back Cuba!!!!!!"
The nuttiest apes on the planet.... are men!
-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2011 6:37 am
Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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'Planet of the Apes' falls short
FHSU University Leader
The "Planet of the Apes" series has been upsetting children and people who hate apes since 1968. "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" is the first installment of the series since Tim Burton's terrible remake in 2001. Unfortunately, this one isn't much ...
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Message: 65439 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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The king is dead. Looong live the
king!
Now, fight like apes this weekend!
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Will "Rise" take a fall this
weekend?
I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening and it
was quite good. Rise has had it's turn at the top of the box office. The next
great surge in popularity we can anticipate will be when the BR/DVDs hit the
shelves.
Dario
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Alex Ruiz < pota1968@...> wrote:
Apes greatest threat will be "Fright Night."
At least the rating on Rotten Tomatoes seem to indicate that.
Al
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:47
AM Subject: [pota] Will
"Rise" take a fall this weekend?
It's another weekend already and things are
looking bad for "Rise of the POTA". After two weekends on top, here come three
semi-big movies to try to knock it off it's perch. "Rise" is kind of a
remake of "Conquest" and two of the 3 have histories with "Conquest" actors.
"Fright Night" is a remake of the movie that had perhaps Roddy's most famous
latter day role: horror host Peter Vincent. "Spy Kids 4" continues the
franchise that gave Ricardo Montalban a new generation of fans (also, director
Robert Rodriguez turned down POTA twice: in the '90's as well as "Rise"
itself). There's also a new "Conan the Barbarian"; the 1982 original had
Ah-nuld as star and Oliver Stone as credited writer (though none of his work
was used) and the duo almost reunited for POTA in the mid-90's.
Add to that the continued success of "The Help"
(which has been beating "Rise" all week) and the apes have their work cut out
for them staying on top this weekend.
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Message: 65440 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend? |
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> I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening
> and it was quite good.
Are you a fan of the original? From the trailers I've seen, it looks
like they've completely botched everything that I love about the
original.
Hunter
From what I've read so far, it's getting mixed reviews, and the new CONAN movie is supposed to be terrible.
Still looks like RISE is the best SF/Fantasy movie around right now.
The BIG question this weekend is.... will either Chris Lawless or Cougar go see it? I doubt it.
-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65441 |
From: James |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: FW: planet photos |
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.html .html-----Original Message----- From: William Burge Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:17 AM Subject: planet photos
dear group, i found two great photos from planet. from william burge<.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65442 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
.html.html That's what happenes when anyone just blogs.
They just randomly talk crap. Kinda like me with twitter. lol
Al
From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:56 AM Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Talk about taking the allegory too far!
What's next? Alex in Maimi telling everyone, "Watch RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES, and then let's get back Cuba!!!!!!"
The nuttiest apes on the planet.... are men!
-----Original Message----- From: James <JamesA1102@...> To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2011 6:37 am Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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'Planet of the Apes' falls shortFHSU University Leader The "Planet of the Apes" series has been upsetting children and people who hate apes since 1968. "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" is the first installment of the series since Tim Burton's terrible remake in 2001. Unfortunately, this one isn't much ...
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65443 |
From: knightangel314 |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty |
.htmlD'oh, I think that should have read Albina the VI to the VII
Mel
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, chimel23@... wrote:
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65444 |
From: Dario |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming! |
| Group: pota |
Message: 65445 |
From: Dario |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: OT Fright Night |
.html.html While I've always loved the movie, mostly because of Roddy's role as a matter of fact, I can't say I'm an active fan as I am of PotA. I am a fan of horror (especially the old Hammer studios flicks) in general.
It's funny because a lot of mainstream horror fandom has always embraced PotA to a degree. Naturally, this is because of the fact that while PotA is strictly a science fiction series, the apes are portrayed as human-ape hybrids, which has an element of horror. Same goes for Wells' Island of Dr. Moreau, or even good ol' Frankenstein. Plenty of other examples.
Dario
> I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening
> and it was quite good.
Are you a fan of the original? From the trailers I've seen, it looks
like they've completely botched everything that I love about the
original.
Hunter
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| Group: pota |
Message: 65446 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 8/19/2011 |
| Subject: Sorry James if I caused any problems! Very important Not apes but ha |
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I recently went to the e-mail page to wipe out everything in it which I do everyday and verification came up with an bank advertisment with the two windows to post. I unforntunatly set up a PHISING BUG the destroyes everything and got worse everytime I clicked on something. My computer ended up with over 700 viruses and every move I made Wose. I called AOL THANK GOD I still have them and had to go up to where the tech plays with my computer for me. An amazing amzing show of talent. Because Aol is my carrier they provided this service led me through Yahoo and back to our Wonderfull site and cured it all. He debuged my computer basically. And even though he is AOL he insisted I wright you James to hope(Their was no threat)noone would catch it from me(very unlikely just screws me. I couldnt get on your site no matter what but did not want to go any furthur. I dont care for computer technology and really did not take into account the three trys or five
trys(attempts) and F****** MYSELF. Its all clear(dont say a thing)LOL yeah right, So Im writing this apology to you all.
The only defence I got was the news that my fathers got alzheimers disease(NOT A JOKE) and I definitly was not thinking straight. This post is long did not want to forget a thing and I would of done it anyway for my patient brothers here. Thank you and so sorry, John M. <.html
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