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Group: pota Message: 65347 From: James Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 65348 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65349 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date
Group: pota Message: 65350 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date
Group: pota Message: 65351 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: RISE Question
Group: pota Message: 65352 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Conquest of the U.K.
Group: pota Message: 65353 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65354 From: knightangel314 Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
Group: pota Message: 65355 From: Pawfan Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65356 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
Group: pota Message: 65357 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< RISE Question
Group: pota Message: 65358 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65359 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Mexico and Brazil: Rise's Sept. release date of Sept. 2nd
Group: pota Message: 65360 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
Group: pota Message: 65361 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date
Group: pota Message: 65362 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65363 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65364 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Mexico and Brazil: Rise's Sept. release date of Sept. 2nd
Group: pota Message: 65365 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Rise is doing what it set out to do!
Group: pota Message: 65366 From: James Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: FW: planet photos
Group: pota Message: 65367 From: knightangel314 Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
Group: pota Message: 65368 From: RonHatter Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Scene from "DESTINY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES"
Group: pota Message: 65369 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"
Group: pota Message: 65370 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Ape Central
Group: pota Message: 65371 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
Group: pota Message: 65372 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65373 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65374 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"
Group: pota Message: 65375 From: Pawfan Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"
Group: pota Message: 65376 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions?
Group: pota Message: 65377 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65378 From: James Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 65379 From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65380 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< RISE Question
Group: pota Message: 65381 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"
Group: pota Message: 65382 From: Robert Mansell Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65383 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: FRUSTRATED MONKEY
Group: pota Message: 65384 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"
Group: pota Message: 65385 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 65386 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY
Group: pota Message: 65387 From: jsurphlis Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: just wondering
Group: pota Message: 65388 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Ape Central
Group: pota Message: 65389 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65390 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions?
Group: pota Message: 65391 From: monkeymermaid65 Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY
Group: pota Message: 65392 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY
Group: pota Message: 65393 From: Robert Mansell Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
Group: pota Message: 65394 From: dave Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Noooooooo!
Group: pota Message: 65395 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
Group: pota Message: 65396 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"
Group: pota Message: 65397 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 65398 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions?
Group: pota Message: 65399 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: just wondering
Group: pota Message: 65400 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Noooooooo!
Group: pota Message: 65401 From: Robert Mansell Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: just wondering
Group: pota Message: 65402 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: just wondering
Group: pota Message: 65403 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: >SPOILER< "Rise" stuff
Group: pota Message: 65404 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY
Group: pota Message: 65405 From: James Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 65406 From: dave Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: RISE AGAIN
Group: pota Message: 65407 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY
Group: pota Message: 65408 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: Noooooooo!
Group: pota Message: 65409 From: Zaki Hasan Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: My interview with RISE writers
Group: pota Message: 65410 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Caesar, Conquest, Rise! Dont mention 2001 apes!!!
Group: pota Message: 65411 From: Emperor Palpatine Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Forbidden Zone?????
Group: pota Message: 65412 From: James Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: FW: ape photos
Group: pota Message: 65413 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: OT: Freida Pinto's "Trishna"
Group: pota Message: 65414 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: FW: ape photos [3 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 65415 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Anniversary Reminder
Group: pota Message: 65416 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES, 8/19/2011, 7:00 am
Group: pota Message: 65417 From: knightangel314 Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: My interview with RISE writers
Group: pota Message: 65418 From: Emperor Palpatine Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Forbidden Zone?????
Group: pota Message: 65419 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 65420 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY
Group: pota Message: 65421 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: CONSPIRACY
Group: pota Message: 65422 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Finally
Group: pota Message: 65423 From: jamesa1102 Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: The Mendez Dynasty
Group: pota Message: 65424 From: James Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 65425 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: FW: ape photos [3 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 65426 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 65427 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Francis
Group: pota Message: 65428 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 65429 From: Dario Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 65430 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 65431 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Francis
Group: pota Message: 65432 From: chimel23@comcast.net Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: The Mendez Dynasty
Group: pota Message: 65433 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 65434 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 65435 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Francis
Group: pota Message: 65436 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 65437 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 65438 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 65439 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 65440 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 65441 From: James Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: FW: planet photos
Group: pota Message: 65442 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 65443 From: knightangel314 Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty
Group: pota Message: 65444 From: Dario Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!
Group: pota Message: 65445 From: Dario Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: OT Fright Night
Group: pota Message: 65446 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Sorry James if I caused any problems! Very important Not apes but ha



Group: pota Message: 65347 From: James Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Planet of the Apes: Trophies
By Scott Beale
Follow @laughingsquid. Here are a few other possibly related posts you might enjoy: - Planet of the Apes vs. A Giant Squid. - Planet of the Apes Party Fun Time. - Urban Trophies by Tonyland at Space Gallery ...
Laughing Squid

Rewind: Planet of the Apes (1968)
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Astronaut Charlton Heston crash lands on this planet of the apes and discovers things are not to his liking (well, he wouldn't would he?) He quickly wins the heart of two maverick chimps, whose scientific views are at odds with the establishment, ...
See all stories on this topic »

Rise of the Planet of the Apes: A Response | The Hairpin
By Lisa Hanawalt
I don't get it. Why do people love monkeys so much? Chimpanzees aren't cute, they look like old men with hormonal imbalances, and they're uncanny and creepy. Plus, their hair looks wiry and unpleasant to touch, doesn't it?
The Hairpin

 

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Group: pota Message: 65348 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
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Well?
I'm asking because I wonder if we can start talking about it now without all these spoiler worries.



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Group: pota Message: 65349 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date
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I guess I underestimated this film... While it didn't do as well in its
second weekend, it kept its number 1 spot so my prediction was off...


I overestimated it, but I'm not unhappy.  It's a surprise hit not just at the boxoffice, but I think it's the best reviewed movie of the summer.
 
So, have you seen it, Cougar?
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Group: pota Message: 65350 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date
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I think "Rise" could be # 1 next weekend too. "Fright Night"? "Conan"? Those seem like niche market films. "Rise" didn't set the box office on fire but I think people will continue to file in because of word of mouth and repeats. People genuinely seem to like the film.
RISE isn't over making money.  I think it'll end up making more than POTA2001 did, but it's just too bad we're in such bad economic times right now, otherwise I think it would be doing much better.
 
I don't know what idiots think we need a new CONAN movie, that has me stumped.  But, if the buzz on FRIGHT NIGHT is very good, I expect it to beat CONAN.  THE HELP is still a wild card.  It could land in second or third place ahead of RISE.  RISE, as I said before, will either be number 3 or 4 at the boxoffice next weekend, taking in probably another $15 to $20 Million.
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Group: pota Message: 65351 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: RISE Question
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Is Will Rodman a good guy or a bad guy in RISE? Is he a male Zira, with a bit of Armando and MacDonald thrown in? I'm actually leaning towards him being a bad guy.John, Scrolls.


That was what I thought was one of the underdeveloped parts of the script.  He was morally ambiguous.  Creating an advanced chimpanzee is really creating a new species of chimpanzee.  Not exactly the right thing to do when you aren't able to take complete responsibility for it.  I think the filmmakers just didn't want to get into it and so glossed over it.
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Group: pota Message: 65352 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Conquest of the U.K.
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Looks like RISE did very well in the UK, where it toppled Harry Potter.  COWBOYS & ALIENS has yet to open there, but I don't see it being much competition.
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Group: pota Message: 65353 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
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I think Mexico and Brazil don't get to see the film until Sept. 2...?

Jess.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:


Well?
I'm asking because I wonder if we can start talking about it now without all these spoiler worries.




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Group: pota Message: 65354 From: knightangel314 Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
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I still have mixed thoughts on it being a prequel per se. I'm willing to accept it as an origin story, but then how did everything in the Sacred Scrolls, the stuff that Zira related in Escape, get so changed?

Mel

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shrstrategygames" <shrstrategygames@...> wrote:
>
> Jeff K.: "Rupert Wyatt went pretty in depth about his ideas for the sequel to "Rise of the POTA" with Ed Gross
>
> > http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/apecentral/news/?a=43720
>
> "And has been repeating it elsewhere
>
> > http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50723
>
> "It would be set about 8 years after 'Rise' and follow the further adventures of Caesar (and maybe Will). He talks about the next generation of apes being young soldiers in a 'Full Metal Jacket' type of scenario ('that kind of urban environment not dissimilar to Western forces going into Baghdad. Remember when the soldiers were finding gold telephones in Hussein's home? It would be the same way that the apes would understand our species through what we've created'. He also has the idea that maybe the humans have to move underground a la '12 Monkeys' because of the situation established in 'Rise' (>cough!<). This could certainly be seen as the beginning of what became the mutants (Wyatt says this universe is a direct prequel to the Heston film). But more interestingly, it would give the apes free reign over our old stuff, buildings, etc. In essence,
> what Boulle's original novel was like, where the apes just basically replaced us..... Anyway, Wyatt's idea also sounds very 'Battle' (as 'Rise' was 'Conquest'): 'Whereas the story of the first film plays out as a fairy tale, the next film will play out as a Shakespearean sci-fi drama where you'll have Caesar as the leader of this revolution, but Koba would be the one leading his own troops wanting to wipe out humans in a genocide. But Caesar is more conflicted, and maybe Caesar needs Koba's assistance in terms of the conflict. And Maurice is his advisor and he's telling him to combine forces. Caesar needs the allegiance of the two, although he doesn't believe in what Koba believes in, which is complete genocide'. Koba is the nasty medical experiment vet who pushes the helicopter off the bridge in 'Rise'. His relationship with Caesar sounds like that of Aldo in 'Battle'. Maurice is the sign language orangutan who could be
> the smart Virgil type. If the humans have to go underground because of 'that thing', Wyatt envisions them wearing gas masks on the surface, and says, 'In a way, that would dehumanize them and would make us REALLY follow the apes. That's what interests me. This shouldn't be the apes as our enemy, this should be about the idea of a
> whole new civilization coming into being'."
>
> On the contrary, I think it's quite possible for there to be a faction among the apes who considers humans to be an enemy to be extermiated altogether as well as a faction among the humans who scapegoat the escaped apes as the cause of the bio-holocaust and wants to target the apes for extermination as well.
>
> It also stands to reason that if researcher Will Rodman survives that he would seek the apes to request their aid in saving humanity by asking them for blood samples to study in order to discover a possible solution for the continuing bio-holocaust. Think what a moral quandary that would put Caesar in since he essentially is a bridge between both humans and apes.
>
> I really would expect that Maurice the orangutang's character might develop into that of a more Machiavellian ape who'd be much more likely to secretly side with Korba, the vengeful experimental-lab chimp vet, while publicly pretending to defer to Caesar's rule. After all, since it's the orangutangs who ran things in the original "Planet of the Apes", it's the orangutangs who've got to do something dramatic behind the scenes during this prehistory phase in order to emerge later as the de-facto ruling powers.
>
> That's right: Rise's Caesar must be eventually be de-throned if you're going to develop a future more like that of the original "Planet of the Apes". Some orangutang leader must subplant Caesar.
>
> What's more, as both the "Life After People" book and the History Channel TV series make perfectly clear, the post-human-dominated world would be subject to a toxic soup of chemical and radioactive pollution. So, the apes do need some human mentors to guide them if they themselves are to survive in that post-bio-holocaust world. (The radioactive fallout would not be from bombs but from nuclear plants going into meltdown mode.)
>
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Group: pota Message: 65355 From: Pawfan Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> So has everyone here seen RISE now or what?
>
> Just askin'
>
A friend and I saw it at the Cinerama Dome Friday night.
Overall,....We enjoyed it! Liked how the apes looked. WETA
renedered them out nicely.
The film seemed a bit short though. The story really seemed
a bit 'RAW' in spots....Not fully 'PREPARED' to taste. One
person mentioned that the 'Director's Cut' may fix those 'RAW'
missing bits to make the story more full......Just my thought.
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Group: pota Message: 65356 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
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I like that point of view...origin story instead of prequel.

I think I can handle that.

Jess.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:58 AM, knightangel314 <chimel23@...> wrote:

I still have mixed thoughts on it being a prequel per se. I'm willing to accept it as an origin story, but then how did everything in the Sacred Scrolls, the stuff that Zira related in Escape, get so changed?

Mel

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shrstrategygames" <shrstrategygames@...> wrote:
>
> Jeff K.: "Rupert Wyatt went pretty in depth about his ideas for the sequel to "Rise of the POTA" with Ed Gross
>
> > http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/apecentral/news/?a=43720
>
> "And has been repeating it elsewhere
>
> > http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50723
>
> "It would be set about 8 years after 'Rise' and follow the further adventures of Caesar (and maybe Will). He talks about the next generation of apes being young soldiers in a 'Full Metal Jacket' type of scenario ('that kind of urban environment not dissimilar to Western forces going into Baghdad. Remember when the soldiers were finding gold telephones in Hussein's home? It would be the same way that the apes would understand our species through what we've created'. He also has the idea that maybe the humans have to move underground a la '12 Monkeys' because of the situation established in 'Rise' (>cough!<). This could certainly be seen as the beginning of what became the mutants (Wyatt says this universe is a direct prequel to the Heston film). But more interestingly, it would give the apes free reign over our old stuff, buildings, etc. In essence,
> what Boulle's original novel was like, where the apes just basically replaced us..... Anyway, Wyatt's idea also sounds very 'Battle' (as 'Rise' was 'Conquest'): 'Whereas the story of the first film plays out as a fairy tale, the next film will play out as a Shakespearean sci-fi drama where you'll have Caesar as the leader of this revolution, but Koba would be the one leading his own troops wanting to wipe out humans in a genocide. But Caesar is more conflicted, and maybe Caesar needs Koba's assistance in terms of the conflict. And Maurice is his advisor and he's telling him to combine forces. Caesar needs the allegiance of the two, although he doesn't believe in what Koba believes in, which is complete genocide'. Koba is the nasty medical experiment vet who pushes the helicopter off the bridge in 'Rise'. His relationship with Caesar sounds like that of Aldo in 'Battle'. Maurice is the sign language orangutan who could be
> the smart Virgil type. If the humans have to go underground because of 'that thing', Wyatt envisions them wearing gas masks on the surface, and says, 'In a way, that would dehumanize them and would make us REALLY follow the apes. That's what interests me. This shouldn't be the apes as our enemy, this should be about the idea of a
> whole new civilization coming into being'."
>
> On the contrary, I think it's quite possible for there to be a faction among the apes who considers humans to be an enemy to be extermiated altogether as well as a faction among the humans who scapegoat the escaped apes as the cause of the bio-holocaust and wants to target the apes for extermination as well.
>
> It also stands to reason that if researcher Will Rodman survives that he would seek the apes to request their aid in saving humanity by asking them for blood samples to study in order to discover a possible solution for the continuing bio-holocaust. Think what a moral quandary that would put Caesar in since he essentially is a bridge between both humans and apes.
>
> I really would expect that Maurice the orangutang's character might develop into that of a more Machiavellian ape who'd be much more likely to secretly side with Korba, the vengeful experimental-lab chimp vet, while publicly pretending to defer to Caesar's rule. After all, since it's the orangutangs who ran things in the original "Planet of the Apes", it's the orangutangs who've got to do something dramatic behind the scenes during this prehistory phase in order to emerge later as the de-facto ruling powers.
>
> That's right: Rise's Caesar must be eventually be de-throned if you're going to develop a future more like that of the original "Planet of the Apes". Some orangutang leader must subplant Caesar.
>
> What's more, as both the "Life After People" book and the History Channel TV series make perfectly clear, the post-human-dominated world would be subject to a toxic soup of chemical and radioactive pollution. So, the apes do need some human mentors to guide them if they themselves are to survive in that post-bio-holocaust world. (The radioactive fallout would not be from bombs but from nuclear plants going into meltdown mode.)
>


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Group: pota Message: 65357 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< RISE Question
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  In one of the "making of"s there's a voiceover of Rodman saying, "What have I done?". Maybe there is a scene where he deals with the guilt but it was cut (though he doesn't know he's responsible for crippling the human race). He does say, "I'm sorry, this is my fault". But he seemed more concerned about Caesar then about the riot he caused. He was chasing his monkey like Wahlberg did. 

Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:18 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: RISE Question

 


Is Will Rodman a good guy or a bad guy in RISE? Is he a male Zira, with a bit of Armando and MacDonald thrown in? I'm actually leaning towards him being a bad guy.John, Scrolls.


That was what I thought was one of the underdeveloped parts of the script.  He was morally ambiguous.  Creating an advanced chimpanzee is really creating a new species of chimpanzee.  Not exactly the right thing to do when you aren't able to take complete responsibility for it.  I think the filmmakers just didn't want to get into it and so glossed over it.

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Group: pota Message: 65358 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
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  No, I was asking Jessica...Well?

Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Well, are we all together now?

 

I think Mexico and Brazil don't get to see the film until Sept. 2...?

Jess.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:
 


Well?
I'm asking because I wonder if we can start talking about it now without all these spoiler worries.




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Group: pota Message: 65359 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Mexico and Brazil: Rise's Sept. release date of Sept. 2nd
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Mexico celebrates its annual Independence Day on September 15th, so the Sept. 2nd release date that you mentioned seems potentially shrewdly selected. As for Brazil, I'm not sure what's motivating the same release date there. Perhaps piracy theft fears remain a major concern there, too?
As a side note, Brazil (Latin America's largest economy and population) reportedly had 10 times more African slaves than the U.S. during the slavery era. If that's true then Rise could be very popular there. Or perhaps considerably less so, since the "minority" isn't as much of a "minority," meaning fewer people might find such "abrasive" topics to be appealing. The jungle scene may also strike a nerve there, too (or not... since taking from the wild may be more accepted there)...


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> I think Mexico and Brazil don't get to see the film until Sept. 2...?
>
> Jess.
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:
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> > **
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> >
> >
> > Well?
> >
> > I'm asking because I wonder if we can start talking about it now without
> > all these spoiler worries.
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Group: pota Message: 65360 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
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  The Sacred Scrolls could've got the story wrong.
 
  Oh no thank you. I'm not going to get into that battle.

Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:58 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel

 

I still have mixed thoughts on it being a prequel per se. I'm willing to accept it as an origin story, but then how did everything in the Sacred Scrolls, the stuff that Zira related in Escape, get so changed?

Mel

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shrstrategygames" <shrstrategygames@...> wrote:

>
> Jeff K.:
"Rupert Wyatt went pretty in depth about his ideas for the sequel to "Rise of the POTA" with Ed Gross
>
> >
href="http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/apecentral/news/?a=43720">http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/apecentral/news/?a=43720
>
> "And has been repeating it elsewhere
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> >
href="http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50723">http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50723
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> "It would be set about 8 years after 'Rise' and follow the
further adventures of Caesar (and maybe Will). He talks about the next generation of apes being young soldiers in a 'Full Metal Jacket' type of scenario ('that kind of urban environment not dissimilar to Western forces going into Baghdad. Remember when the soldiers were finding gold telephones in Hussein's home? It would be the same way that the apes would understand our species through what we've created'. He also has the idea that maybe the humans have to move underground a la '12 Monkeys' because of the situation established in 'Rise' (>cough!<). This could certainly be seen as the beginning of what became the mutants (Wyatt says this universe is a direct prequel to the Heston film). But more interestingly, it would give the apes free reign over our old stuff, buildings, etc. In essence,
> what Boulle's original novel was
like, where the apes just basically replaced us..... Anyway, Wyatt's idea also sounds very 'Battle' (as 'Rise' was 'Conquest'): 'Whereas the story of the first film plays out as a fairy tale, the next film will play out as a Shakespearean sci-fi drama where you'll have Caesar as the leader of this revolution, but Koba would be the one leading his own troops wanting to wipe out humans in a genocide. But Caesar is more conflicted, and maybe Caesar needs Koba's assistance in terms of the conflict. And Maurice is his advisor and he's telling him to combine forces. Caesar needs the allegiance of the two, although he doesn't believe in what Koba believes in, which is complete genocide'. Koba is the nasty medical experiment vet who pushes the helicopter off the bridge in 'Rise'. His relationship with Caesar sounds like that of Aldo in 'Battle'. Maurice is the sign language orangutan who could be
> the smart Virgil
type. If the humans have to go underground because of 'that thing', Wyatt envisions them wearing gas masks on the surface, and says, 'In a way, that would dehumanize them and would make us REALLY follow the apes. That's what interests me. This shouldn't be the apes as our enemy, this should be about the idea of a
> whole new civilization coming into being'."
>
> On the
contrary, I think it's quite possible for there to be a faction among the apes who considers humans to be an enemy to be extermiated altogether as well as a faction among the humans who scapegoat the escaped apes as the cause of the bio-holocaust and wants to target the apes for extermination as well.
>
> It also stands to reason that if researcher Will Rodman survives that
he would seek the apes to request their aid in saving humanity by asking them for blood samples to study in order to discover a possible solution for the continuing bio-holocaust. Think what a moral quandary that would put Caesar in since he essentially is a bridge between both humans and apes.
>
>
I really would expect that Maurice the orangutang's character might develop into that of a more Machiavellian ape who'd be much more likely to secretly side with Korba, the vengeful experimental-lab chimp vet, while publicly pretending to defer to Caesar's rule. After all, since it's the orangutangs who ran things in the original "Planet of the Apes", it's the orangutangs who've got to do something dramatic behind the scenes during this prehistory phase in order to emerge later as the de-facto ruling powers.
>
> That's right:
Rise's Caesar must be eventually be de-throned if you're going to develop a future more like that of the original "Planet of the Apes". Some orangutang leader must subplant Caesar.
>
> What's more, as both the "Life
After People" book and the History Channel TV series make perfectly clear, the post-human-dominated world would be subject to a toxic soup of chemical and radioactive pollution. So, the apes do need some human mentors to guide them if they themselves are to survive in that post-bio-holocaust world. (The radioactive fallout would not be from bombs but from nuclear plants going into meltdown mode.)
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Group: pota Message: 65361 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise": $ 180 million worldwide to date
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In a message dated 8/16/2011 11:22:48 AM Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:


> I overestimated it, but I'm not unhappy. It's a surprise hit not just at
> the boxoffice, but I think it's the best reviewed movie of the summer.
>
> So, have you seen it, Cougar?
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Group: pota Message: 65362 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 8/16/2011
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I think the film was edited really really well. Enough to tell a complete story while keeping you completely glued.
Also the shorter the film, the more viewings Fox will have at cinemas. It is late in the summer so I'm sure Fox had to give that some thought.
But yeah, an extended version on Bluray?. Bring it! The more the merrier. :o)
 
This movie was so well edited and keeps you so glued that the last time I saw it (third time) I had to go the restroom half way through the film and holded on til the end of the movie. Even though I already seen it. Now that says a lot! lol
 
Al

From: Pawfan <teddypawpad@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:53 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Well, are we all together now?

 


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
> So has everyone here seen RISE now or what?
>
> Just askin'
>
A friend and I saw it at the Cinerama Dome Friday night.
Overall,....We enjoyed it! Liked how the apes looked. WETA
renedered them out nicely.
The film seemed a bit short though. The story really seemed
a bit 'RAW' in spots....Not fully 'PREPARED' to taste. One
person mentioned that the 'Director's Cut' may fix those 'RAW'
missing bits to make the story more full......Just my thought.



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Group: pota Message: 65363 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 8/16/2011
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I think the film was edited really really well. Enough to tell a complete story while keeping you completely glued.
Also the shorter the film, the more viewings Fox will have at cinemas. It is late in the summer so I'm sure Fox had to give that some thought.
But yeah, an extended version on Bluray?. Bring it! The more the merrier. :o)
 
This movie was so well edited and keeps you so glued that the last time I saw it (third time) I had to go the restroom half way through the film and holded on til the end of the movie. Even though I already seen it. Now that says a lot! lol
 
Al
 
oops. Make that "held on" :o)


From: Pawfan <teddypawpad@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:53 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Well, are we all together now?

 


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> So has everyone here seen RISE now or what?
>
> Just askin'
>
A friend and I saw it at the Cinerama Dome Friday night.
Overall,....We enjoyed it! Liked how the apes looked. WETA
renedered them out nicely.
The film seemed a bit short though. The story really seemed
a bit 'RAW' in spots....Not fully 'PREPARED' to taste. One
person mentioned that the 'Director's Cut' may fix those 'RAW'
missing bits to make the story more full......Just my thought.



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Group: pota Message: 65364 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Mexico and Brazil: Rise's Sept. release date of Sept. 2nd
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  Adami, my dear Ape friend, says "Rise" will be released in Brazil on Aug. 26th.

Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: [pota] Mexico and Brazil: Rise's Sept. release date of Sept. 2nd

 


Mexico celebrates its annual Independence Day on September 15th, so the Sept. 2nd release date that you mentioned seems potentially shrewdly selected. As for Brazil, I'm not sure what's motivating the same release date there. Perhaps piracy theft fears remain a major concern there, too?
As a side note, Brazil (Latin America's largest economy and population) reportedly had 10 times more African slaves than the U.S. during the slavery era. If that's true then Rise could be very popular there. Or perhaps considerably less so, since the "minority" isn't as much of a "minority," meaning fewer people might find such "abrasive" topics to be appealing. The jungle scene may also strike a nerve there, too (or not... since taking from the wild may be more accepted there)...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

>
> I think Mexico
and Brazil don't get to see the film until Sept. 2...?
>
>
Jess.
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:30 AM, <Haristas@...>
wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > Well?
> >
> > I'm asking because I wonder if we can start
talking about it now without
> > all these spoiler worries.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Group: pota Message: 65365 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Rise is doing what it set out to do!
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Even though we all feel a kinship with the Apes films and many of us(though less than I thought, myself,Rory and Im not sure who else) were their at the begining-1968, the purpose really was to create a new audience and to my SURPRISE FOX and the writing team and Wyatt have done it. Young people, or people not involved like most of us and under 30's, are slowely but surely going to create a new up to date series and knoweledge of the original five will not be needed. This is what FOX wanted and most of the writers etc., wanted no matter what we think. Burtons film I feel destroyed(though the public are alittle to hard on his film)what little enthusiasm from oldies over 40's were to have on any furthur Apes films in general. Their arent that many, though where ever I go in NY lines are all over the place so my observation may be wrong, Apes fans to make the kind of money that Fox needed to make enough money to warrent a new series. To repeat myself- yeah their are many numbers of old Apes fans but the purpose was to create new intrest in a new series and they have done it. They(everyone associated with the film) have done something that I never would have bet could happen, many, many new young enthusiastic young fans, many with blogs, and they really do like this film.
Even with all the so called easter eggs in this film for us original fans to chuckle at, so many other fan bases are getting the "In" jokes, so the original apes series really are ingrained in the worlds collective zeitgist and that makes me so happy. Its not just a Star Wars, Star Trek and Super heroe and Harry Potter world after all. Im probably naive in my old way(51 very soon) but my demographic are the ones buying the software(Blu-rays,DVD,books)so we should not be ignored just yet. The business practice of film series making, which Im happy, maybe, to say tne Apes started all those years ago, is starting anew. Who would of guessed that men who lived in the depression and fought in WWII and made us spoiled brats and created this series of films, are still viable in the year 2011 and beyond is amazing to me. As usual sorry for the long post, take care, John M.
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Group: pota Message: 65366 From: James Date: 8/16/2011
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From: William Burge
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:02 PM
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dear group, here are two planet photos. from william burge

 

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Group: pota Message: 65367 From: knightangel314 Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
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I'm reluctant to get into it either...I know it was going on somewhere, but I forget if it was this list or the other. But I understand how intense it can get lol.

Mel

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> The Sacred Scrolls could've got the story wrong.
>
> Oh no thank you. I'm not going to get into that battle.
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 65368 From: RonHatter Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: Re: Scene from "DESTINY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES"
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here is a scene currently in the process of being animated, it's really only the opening of a much bigger scene.

Unfortunately, the Animation is shoddy.



http://youtu.be/x7CtNEN9uyY
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Group: pota Message: 65369 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/16/2011
Subject: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"
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The Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and "well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues. I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/
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Group: pota Message: 65370 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/17/2011
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  Ed ("POTA Revisited") Gross has debuted his new POTA website "Ape Central":
 
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Group: pota Message: 65371 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
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I still have mixed thoughts on it being a prequel per se. I'm willing to accept it as an origin story, but then how did everything in the Sacred Scrolls, the stuff that Zira related in Escape, get so changed?

Mel


I think, if we don't want to be like "continuity" geek nerds, we should try and be too literal with POTA.  The inconsistencies in the series are legion.
 
I look at RISE as both a prequel and a reboot, and so it's going to revise things said in the original series, and you know what?
 
I really couldn't care less.  Just go with it and don't think about it too much, unless your name is Patrick.  RISE is probably making him go crazy.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 65372 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
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A friend and I saw it at the Cinerama Dome Friday night.
Overall,....We enjoyed it! Liked how the apes looked. WETA
renedered them out nicely.
The film seemed a bit short though. The story really seemed
a bit 'RAW' in spots....Not fully 'PREPARED' to taste. One
person mentioned that the 'Director's Cut' may fix those 'RAW'
missing bits to make the story more full......Just my thought.


That was my reaction as well.  I think the movie could have been fifteen to thirty minutes longer.
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Group: pota Message: 65373 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
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I think the film was edited really really well. Enough to tell a complete story while keeping you completely glued.
Also the shorter the film, the more viewings Fox will have at cinemas. It is late in the summer so I'm sure Fox had to give that some thought.
But yeah, an extended version on Bluray?. Bring it! The more the merrier. :o)
 
This movie was so well edited and keeps you so glued that the last time I saw it (third time) I had to go the restroom half way through the film and holded on til the end of the movie. Even though I already seen it. Now that says a lot! lol
 
Al
Go see it again and wear a Depends.
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Group: pota Message: 65374 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"
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The Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and "well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues. I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).

http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/


They changed the rules again this year about how many films can be nominated for Best Picture.  They raised it from five to ten the last couple years, but now the Academy says it could be "between five and ten."  So, I'm not so sure about RISE getting nominated for Best Picture, but it's possible.  The Academy wants ratings so they may allow a couple popular movies to be among the nominees.  RISE hasn't a chance of winning though, but it was sure better than THOR or SUPER 8 or CAPTAIN AMERICA, and I hear it's better than TREE OF LIFE!
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Group: pota Message: 65375 From: Pawfan Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and "well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues. I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/
>
Andy should get some sort of credit for acting out the characters
so well. He gives life to the renderings WETA overlays on him in the
final post and edits before presentation.
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Group: pota Message: 65376 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions?
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Hello, I've been a member of the group for a while but have only commented a couple of times in the past. My wife and I share the same email account so when I signed up it was under her profile and her name which is Rosa so the group has me as a female. But in reality, I'm a dude.

Anyway, I've really enjoyed reading everyone's posts. I love reading posts from subject matter experts who know what they're talking about and Apes fans definitely do!! I get a little nuts reading some of the IMDB boards to the point that I want to bang my head on something really hard! I was reading the Rise of the Planet of the Apes boards today and it really makes me wish a boulder would fall on me. I can't believe there are that many ignorant people out there. The one continuing post on IMDB that drives me nuts is when posters say things like "how does this fit in with Burton's 2001 film" or "I watched the film and I can't wait to see how Leo's crew fits in here," etc. etc. UGH!!!!!!!!

It's really funny to see their reactions when they find out there was a film series that began in 1968 and that Rise is a re-boot to the original Apes mythology.

Some of the Burton posts are almost as bad as the ones that call our beloved 1968 orginal a B movie!!!! If they actually watched the original they would change their minds. I really think a lot of folks already have their own set opinions and have really never seen any of the old films--but they're just criticizing.

But I'm ranting. Rise was excellent in my opinion and quite a new take on how to re-start the franchise. I do have a few of my own little gripes--very little--about the film but I'll have to wait until everyone sees it before I mention it here. Some of the scenes seem like they were edited heavily--a few spots where parts seemed like they were cut out completely. One of those involved the neighbor.

It would be interesting however to see how they can handle a sequel. I'd like to see if they can do something to fit in a Heston-type character in the future. Question is--who could do it? There are very few folks who can pull that off today. Harrison Ford when he was younger? Sure, but he's too old now. One poster on IMDB suggested Daniel Craig but I'm not so sure. The guy from the Transporter? I'm not sure if he's that great an actor. Any suggestions?
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Group: pota Message: 65377 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
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LOL!!

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 8:56 PM, <Haristas@...> wrote:


I think the film was edited really really well. Enough to tell a complete story while keeping you completely glued.
Also the shorter the film, the more viewings Fox will have at cinemas. It is late in the summer so I'm sure Fox had to give that some thought.
But yeah, an extended version on Bluray?. Bring it! The more the merrier. :o)
This movie was so well edited and keeps you so glued that the last time I saw it (third time) I had to go the restroom half way through the film and holded on til the end of the movie. Even though I already seen it. Now that says a lot! lol
Al
Go see it again and wear a Depends.

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Group: pota Message: 65378 From: James Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Rise of the Planet of the Apes takes over UK box office
The Guardian (blog)
Andy Serkis as Caesar in Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Photograph: WETA Digital/20th Century Fox When Twentieth Century Fox's Rise of the Planet of the Apes opened the first weekend of August in the US with $55m (£33.6m), the UK arm of the studio ...
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iPad Hip With Apes Now
Complex.com (blog)
By Devin Chanda, | Aug 16, 2011 | 9:26 am | Permalink Sure, you may have thought that Rise of the Planet of the Apes was a nice popcorn flick. Well, for those that previously doubted that our evolutionary predecessors were never plotting to avenge the ...
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'Planet Of The Apes' Sequels Could 'Rise' Soon
MTV.com (blog)
"Rise of the Planet of the Apes" continues to hold strong in its second week of release, so it should come as no surprise that there is already talk of a sequel in the works. Entertainment Weekly chatted with Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver, ...
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http://nt1.ggpht.com/news/tbn/-W2lcvykoV0J
MTV.com (blog)

 

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Group: pota Message: 65379 From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
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Let's keep the spoiler considerations in place until Sunday. That's enough time for most people to have seen the film.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
>
> Well?
> I'm asking because I wonder if we can start talking about it now without all these spoiler worries.
>

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Group: pota Message: 65380 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< RISE Question
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Or maybe he's just the epitome of selfish, arrogant science, not really caring about the consequences? I don't see Rodman as a good guy--but that's not a criticism of the film.Will Rodman is a very recognisable, human type. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> In one of the "making of"s there's a voiceover of Rodman saying, "What have I done?". Maybe there is a scene where he deals with the guilt but it was cut (though he doesn't know he's responsible for crippling the human race). He does say, "I'm sorry, this is my fault". But he seemed more concerned about Caesar then about the riot he caused. He was chasing his monkey like Wahlberg did.
>
>
> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:18 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: RISE Question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Is Will Rodman a good guy or a bad guy in RISE? Is he a male Zira, with a bit of Armando and MacDonald thrown in? I'm actually leaning towards him being a bad guy.John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
>
> That was what I thought was one of the underdeveloped parts of the script. He was morally ambiguous. Creating an advanced chimpanzee is really creating a new species of chimpanzee. Not exactly the right thing to do when you aren't able to take complete responsibility for it. I think the filmmakers just didn't want to get into it and so glossed over it.
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Group: pota Message: 65381 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"
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The Guardian newspaper web page mentioned a 'best picture' possiblity for RISE straight away.I would like to think that could happen, but I'm doubtful.Aren't the numbers of nominations higher next time? I'm,personally, more optimistic that Andy Serkis will get a nod.He's brilliant in the role and maybe the whole industry needs to recognise the new technology that's shaping modern movies? No surprise Apes toppled Potter in the UK--we LOVE our Apes over here!!!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and "well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues. I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/
>
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Group: pota Message: 65382 From: Robert Mansell Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
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.html Hey, I ain't been to the cinema yet and I just watched it, there are always ways, lol.
Robert Mansell


On 17/08/2011 11:42, pota-owner@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 

Let's keep the spoiler considerations in place until Sunday. That's enough time for most people to have seen the film.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> I'm asking because I wonder if we can start talking about it now without all these spoiler worries.
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Group: pota Message: 65383 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/17/2011
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Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 65384 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/17/2011
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  To get a Best Picture nomination now, a movie has to get a certain number of votes. That "Deadline" article (they know their stuff) said a movie needs at least 300 #1 votes as Best Picture. So if 300 people think "Rise" is the Best Picture of the year it's probably in.
  Another movie that got raves is "Project Nim", which has a good shot at the documentary category. Maybe that will keep "Rise" on people's minds as well.

Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:21 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"

 

The Guardian newspaper web page mentioned a 'best picture' possiblity for RISE straight away.I would like to think that could happen, but I'm doubtful.Aren't the numbers of nominations higher next time? I'm,personally, more optimistic that Andy Serkis will get a nod.He's brilliant in the role and maybe the whole industry needs to recognise the new technology that's shaping modern movies? No surprise Apes toppled Potter in the UK--we LOVE our Apes over here!!!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

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> The Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar
people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and "well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues. I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).
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href="http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/">http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/
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Group: pota Message: 65385 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise"
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I might be mistaken but isn't the bay window design...the one that Caeser draws in his cell and shows up on a stop sign during the revolution....very similar to the Ape Management logo in Conquest? Can't find a pic of that....
Tim


From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:19 PM
Subject: [PotaDG]
>SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise"

 
  The "Rise of the POTA" screenwriters take us through the various references to the POTA mythology in the new movie. Some were bothered by them, I enjoyed them and felt they were mostly subtle.
 


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Group: pota Message: 65386 From: jessica rotich Date: 8/17/2011
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There's this!

http://www.fnac.com/La-planete-des-s...es/cp10144/w-4



On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:41 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:

Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls.


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Group: pota Message: 65387 From: jsurphlis Date: 8/17/2011
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other then the baby chimp, that was ceasar, were all of the apes in the movie c.g.i. thanks john
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Group: pota Message: 65388 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
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Ed ("POTA Revisited") Gross has debuted his new POTA website "Ape Central":
 
I wish someone would track down Buck Kartalian and ask him if he's seen RISE and how he felt seeing Buck the gorilla.
 
Would be nice to hear from Natalie Trundy, Lou Wagner and Linda Harrison too, and I'd like to know if Richard Zanuck is happy for Fox?
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Group: pota Message: 65389 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
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Hey, I ain't been to the cinema yet and I just watched it, there are always ways, lol.
Robert Mansell



That's nothing to brag about here.  I have a love/hate relationship with the modern 20th Century Fox studio, but rob them where APES is concerned?
 
NEVER!!!!
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Group: pota Message: 65390 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions?
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It would be interesting however to see how they can handle a sequel. I'd like to see if they can do something to fit in a Heston-type character in the future. Question is--who could do it? There are very few folks who can pull that off today. Harrison Ford when he was younger? Sure, but he's too old now. One poster on IMDB suggested Daniel Craig but I'm not so sure. The guy from the Transporter? I'm not sure if he's that great an actor. Any suggestions?


I think Fox has a lot of work ahead of them with APES.  The next movie will have to be bigger and better -- and truly so, or else they could lose the franchise just as they're getting it back.


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Group: pota Message: 65391 From: monkeymermaid65 Date: 8/17/2011
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I've been looking too and haven't seen much out there. The closest I've seen to a toy is a custom made car sold to nascar fans. I saw it on ebay but is no longer listed. Don't know squat about nascar, but the "Rise of the Planet of the Apes car" came in 27th in some big race.
http://www.tomydrissi.com/news/no-37-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-ford-finishes-27th-at-i.html"

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 65392 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY
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Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls.


My guess is you'll have to wait for the baboons running Fox to wake up to the fact they've got a major hit and their APES franchise finally up and running.  Everyone was stung by the 2001 fiasco and a lot of companies had to eat their POTA merchandize.  My hunch is wait for the sequel.  The momentum is going to build over the next few years.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 65393 From: Robert Mansell Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Well, are we all together now?
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.html The wife will not watch any of the ape films at all, the talking apes freak her...

Will buy the official DVD when it comes out.
Robert Mansell

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On 17/08/2011 17:52, Haristas@... wrote:
 


Hey, I ain't been to the cinema yet and I just watched it, there are always ways, lol.
Robert Mansell



That's nothing to brag about here.  I have a love/hate relationship with the modern 20th Century Fox studio, but rob them where APES is concerned?
 
NEVER!!!!
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Group: pota Message: 65394 From: dave Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Noooooooo!
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I read somewhere (can't remember where) prior to the movie's release that Caesar's cry of "No" would be Roddy's voice sampled and altered.

Does anyone know if that was true?

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 65395 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Thoughts on the "Rise" sequel
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The changing of history is simple. Even though in reality it was probably just lazy writing it can also be interpeted as how we create our own history. The winners get to to write history for their own ends. Just thrown out their, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> I still have mixed thoughts on it being a prequel per se. I'm willing to accept it as an origin story, but then how did everything in the Sacred Scrolls, the stuff that Zira related in Escape, get so changed?
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> Mel
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> I think, if we don't want to be like "continuity" geek nerds, we should try and be too literal with POTA. The inconsistencies in the series are legion.
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> I look at RISE as both a prequel and a reboot, and so it's going to revise things said in the original series, and you know what?
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> I really couldn't care less. Just go with it and don't think about it too much, unless your name is Patrick. RISE is probably making him go crazy.
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> -- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 65396 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" Academy screening "well received"
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Im happy as hell that the UK like Apes. I always knew it from my early Ape years. I have relitives that live in Newcastle -upon- tyne. Thats near Scotland isnt it or is it where the wall that Rome built or both. Take care brother, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> The Guardian newspaper web page mentioned a 'best picture' possiblity for RISE straight away.I would like to think that could happen, but I'm doubtful.Aren't the numbers of nominations higher next time? I'm,personally, more optimistic that Andy Serkis will get a nod.He's brilliant in the role and maybe the whole industry needs to recognise the new technology that's shaping modern movies? No surprise Apes toppled Potter in the UK--we LOVE our Apes over here!!!!! John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > The Motion Picture Academy (the Oscar people) had it's official screening of "Rise of the POTA" last Saturday for members (Oscar voters) and reportedly it was 70% full (pretty good) and "well-received". So another notch on the "Rise" Oscar nominee belt. The controversy over whether Andy Serkis should get an acting nomination continues. I think it would be cool if he were awarded a special Oscar for innovation as John Chambers was (many people feel WETA is already a lock for the FX Oscar).
> >
> > http://www.deadline.com/2011/08/woody-allen-brad-pitt-the-help-among-early-leading-oscar-contenders-can-they-hang-on/
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Group: pota Message: 65397 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise"
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Ive seen Conquest fully(get a life) about 100 times atleast and dont remember no logos except for the armbands for apes at the Comand Post. Im probably wrong, I forget details alot easier lately, Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> I might be mistaken but isn't the bay window design...the one that Caeser draws in his cell and shows up on a stop sign during the revolution....very similar to the Ape Management logo in Conquest? Can't find a pic of that....
> Tim
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Group: pota Message: 65398 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Anyone else hate Rise of POTA Tim Burton questions?
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Agree with both posts especially Haristas. Take Care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
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> It would be interesting however to see how they can handle a sequel. I'd like to see if they can do something to fit in a Heston-type character in the future. Question is--who could do it? There are very few folks who can pull that off today. Harrison Ford when he was younger? Sure, but he's too old now. One poster on IMDB suggested Daniel Craig but I'm not so sure. The guy from the Transporter? I'm not sure if he's that great an actor. Any suggestions?
>
>
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> I think Fox has a lot of work ahead of them with APES. The next movie will have to be bigger and better -- and truly so, or else they could lose the franchise just as they're getting it back.
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Group: pota Message: 65399 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: just wondering
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There were NO real apes or actors in make up or puppets ...ALL cgi

On Aug 17, 2011 10:07 AM, "jsurphlis" <littlejohn57@...> wrote:
> other then the baby chimp, that was ceasar, were all of the apes in the movie c.g.i. thanks john
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Group: pota Message: 65400 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: Noooooooo!
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Cornelius I thought only said NO! In Escape and the video tape of it in Battle, I could be wrong, Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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> I read somewhere (can't remember where) prior to the movie's release that Caesar's cry of "No" would be Roddy's voice sampled and altered.
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> Does anyone know if that was true?
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> Dave
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Group: pota Message: 65401 From: Robert Mansell Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: just wondering
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.html I must admit only the close up CGI worked for me, but then I really hate CGI.
Robert Mansell


On 17/08/2011 21:01, Jeff Barkley wrote:
 

There were NO real apes or actors in make up or puppets ...ALL cgi

On Aug 17, 2011 10:07 AM, "jsurphlis" <littlejohn57@...> wrote:
> other then the baby chimp, that was ceasar, were all of the apes in the movie c.g.i. thanks john
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Group: pota Message: 65402 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: Re: just wondering
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  They did have an animatronic baby Caesar on set (seen in the clip below) but replaced it with CG.
 

 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] just wondering

 

There were NO real apes or actors in make up or puppets ...ALL cgi

On Aug 17, 2011 10:07 AM, "jsurphlis" <littlejohn57@...> wrote:
> other then the baby chimp, that was ceasar, were all of the apes in the movie c.g.i. thanks john
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Group: pota Message: 65403 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/17/2011
Subject: >SPOILER< "Rise" stuff
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Here's a couple of good links; thanks to Ape Central for the heads-up.

Interview with director Rupert Wyatt by Movies Ireland. Confirms the $ 93 million budget and talks sequel. He's seems to be basking in the glow after a good opening weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFvz1br_85E

And here's a fun review of "Rise" by spill.com:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhaKGt_H2fc
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Group: pota Message: 65404 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/18/2011
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Well, they certainly HAVE got a hit on their hands.For a non 3D movie with a modest budget and a fairly restrained marketing campaign,RISE has performed brilliantly at the box office and with the critics.From what I've read,RISE opened bigger in the UK than Burton's Apes did--despite that barrage of publicity with Burton.And the film is still doing well.Happy days.Now give me my novel, cards and toys.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
>
> My guess is you'll have to wait for the baboons running Fox to wake up to the fact they've got a major hit and their APES franchise finally up and running. Everyone was stung by the 2001 fiasco and a lot of companies had to eat their POTA merchandize. My hunch is wait for the sequel. The momentum is going to build over the next few years.
>
> -- Rory
>
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Group: pota Message: 65405 From: James Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Exclusive Interview: Rise of the Planet of the Apes Writers Amanda Silver and ...
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And then he had that crazy lightbulb epiphany, and he said, "Oh my God, this a great way to reboot Planet of the Apes." And he came to me, and he said "Honey, we're gonna reinvent Planet of the Apes." And I kind of faked a smile and -- a supportive ...
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Returning Sunday night from the Academy screening of the fabulous Fox/Peter Chernin film, Rise of the Planet of the Apes , I was sleepless and distraught at the effect the film had upon me. Don't get me wrong, I think it was one of the best, ...
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Group: pota Message: 65406 From: dave Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: RISE AGAIN
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Saw it again last night and enjoyed even more than the 1st time. There's still those plot holes but hey... the originals weren't watertight.








Spoiler










I had a thought (happens now and again).

Instead of the viral effect on humans being some kind of Flu, how about if they had written it so Alzheimer's mutated into something contagious.

Not that they seem too concerned about continuity but it might help explain the devolution of mankind by 3978.

Dave
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Group: pota Message: 65407 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/18/2011
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MMMmmmmmmm....that's very tempting, Jess---any idea what the cost is in human money and is there an English version? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> There's this!
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> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:41 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> > Am I the only monkey who is straining at the leash to express my love for
> > ROTPOTA by splashing out copious amounts of money I haven't got on trinkets
> > and momemtoes I don't need but, instead of great welcoming forests of
> > trading cards, novels, figures, slurpees and bed covers, I see only a lonely
> > wasteland? I'm missing the fun of being embarassed in Toys R US when buying
> > my action figures and being asked how much my non existent kids will enjoy
> > them.I want to pick which set of cards is 'for best' and which 'for
> > looking'.I want to buy burgers just to get gifts.I WANT A MERCHANDISING
> > BLITZ TO KEEP THE APES VIBE GOING STRONG!!!! John, Scrolls.
> >
> >
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Group: pota Message: 65408 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: Noooooooo!
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Galen tells Urko 'No' in Escape from Tomorrow, I think.Also, there'll be a 'No' to Fauna in The Deception.This is an unspeakably cool concept about Roddy's voice---hope it's true.Somebody else has mentioned to me that Will's car is the same as Lewis Dixon's in Escape---any idea if that's right? I DO know for a fact that Wahlberg's performance in Apes 2001 was incorporated this time around as the third branch from the top in the fifth tree at the back in Muir Wood.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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> I read somewhere (can't remember where) prior to the movie's release that Caesar's cry of "No" would be Roddy's voice sampled and altered.
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> Does anyone know if that was true?
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> Dave
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Group: pota Message: 65409 From: Zaki Hasan Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: My interview with RISE writers
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An abridged version of my interview with Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver is now a featured article at Huffington Post. Check it out if you haven't already, then read the unedited version at my site!

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Group: pota Message: 65410 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Caesar, Conquest, Rise! Dont mention 2001 apes!!!
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The interviews are so coached and I understand but I dont need a degree in physcology to read the creaters of this film. They do their best to avoid Burtons fims and its so obvious. To mention the sequels they run a fine line about to much talk. Conquest had the Virus brought back from outer space by the astronauts that was always my explanation for apes mutating and Dogs and Cats dying off and even effecting humans compounding with nucleor fallout. Pota68 no problem ofcourse. Its getting to much to bear but it may be me downloading to much interview and info sudo-trailers. The mark on Caesar on his right pectorial resembles the Oberon from 2001apes or is that another easter egg for us old farts(POTA68) with extra condencention(SP) thrown in. Im starting to get alittle abused and raped intellectualy. HELP ME!!!John M.
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Group: pota Message: 65411 From: Emperor Palpatine Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Forbidden Zone?????
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Does ANYONE have a POTA Forbidden Zone #4 they'd be willing to sell me or know where I can find a copy? It completes my POTA comic collection. I looked all over. I have paypal.
Thanks,
Andy
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Group: pota Message: 65412 From: James Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: FW: ape photos
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From: William Burge
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:00 PM
Subject: ape photos

dear group, here are some neat apes photos from william burge
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Group: pota Message: 65413 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: OT: Freida Pinto's "Trishna"
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Despite the acclaim "Rise of the POTA" has had, Freida Pinto hasn't really shared in it since she's been considered superfluous to the movie. Here's a movie that might show her acting chops. "Trishna" has been described as an Indian version of "Tess of the d'Urbervilles" and premieres next month at the Toronto Film Festival.
And maybe there'll be a meatier role for her in the "Apes" sequel.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/08/trishna_trailer_freida_pinto.html"
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Group: pota Message: 65414 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 8/18/2011
Subject: Re: FW: ape photos [3 Attachments]
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:58 PM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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From: William Burge
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:00 PM
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dear group, here are some neat apes photos from william burge




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Group: pota Message: 65415 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 8/18/2011
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Notes:   A chimpanzee family flees their exploding future world and find themselves on present-day Earth in this third 'Apes' installment that came out in 1971. But the U.S. government calls them a threat to mankind--and puts out a contract on their lives.
 
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Group: pota Message: 65417 From: knightangel314 Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: My interview with RISE writers
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THe link doesn't work, for some reason. I had to do a copy-paste.

Mel

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zaki Hasan" <MaxPrimal@...> wrote:
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> An abridged version of my interview with Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver is
> now a featured article at Huffington Post. Check it out if you haven't
> already, then read the unedited version at my site!
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zaki-hasan/exclusive-interview-rise-_b_925\
> 944.html<An abridged version of my interview with Rick Jaffa and Amanda
> Silver is now a featured article at Huffington Post. Check it out if you
> haven't already, then read the unedited version at my site!
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zaki-hasan/exclusive-interview-rise-_b_925\
> 944.htmlgt;
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Group: pota Message: 65418 From: Emperor Palpatine Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Forbidden Zone?????
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I'm also looking for Terror on the POTA comic #4. If anyone has those two or one or the other of the comics I'd be willing to pay. Thanks!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Emperor Palpatine" <locutusatwolf359@...> wrote:
>
> Does ANYONE have a POTA Forbidden Zone #4 they'd be willing to sell me or know where I can find a copy? It completes my POTA comic collection. I looked all over. I have paypal.
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
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Group: pota Message: 65419 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
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  It's another weekend already and things are looking bad for "Rise of the POTA". After two weekends on top, here come three semi-big movies to try to knock it off it's perch. "Rise" is kind of a remake of "Conquest" and two of the 3 have histories with "Conquest" actors. "Fright Night" is a remake of the movie that had perhaps Roddy's most famous latter day role: horror host Peter Vincent. "Spy Kids 4" continues the franchise that gave Ricardo Montalban a new generation of fans (also, director Robert Rodriguez turned down POTA twice: in the '90's as well as "Rise" itself). There's also a new "Conan the Barbarian"; the 1982 original had Ah-nuld as star and Oliver Stone as credited writer (though none of his work was used) and the duo almost reunited for POTA in the mid-90's.
  Add to that the continued success of "The Help" (which has been beating "Rise" all week) and the apes have their work cut out for them staying on top this weekend.
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Group: pota Message: 65420 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED MONKEY
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It's interesting that we live in a "star wars merchandise" world where we just expect there to be lots of product tied-in to a new movie
but remember that none of the original 5 films had a big wave of merchandise
in fact there was almost nothing for those 5 films beyond paperback novelizations, theatre posters, a couple soundtracks and 1 bubblegum card set
 
In 2001 they put out a huge wave of product that most of it I'm not sure even made it to wal-mart etc
even though I personally ordered all of it it seemed at the time that nobody else wanted it LOL
 
I have a feeling if they would have put out lots of new product then they would have overhyped it all
and it may not have reached the right audience
 
I'm not sure how they decide to market a wave of products and toys to 50 year olds rather than 10 year olds !??!!?
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Group: pota Message: 65421 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: CONSPIRACY
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I had my Conspiracy of the POTA today and it's a very pleasant surprise.I've read the first couple of chapters and really enjoyed them.I've failed to resist the temptation to flick through the illustrations and they are gorgeous--some of them really evoke the covers of Marvel's mag.The series of Forbidden Zone paintings make me wish I could wallpaper my home in it! And there's a Steranko cover!!! It's a sumptuous publication and ,personally, I love it.Congratulations to Drew and crew--I'm eagerly awaiting the sequel!! John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 65422 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Finally
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I finally really saw it.  You Maniacs!  But seriously...
I enjoyed it. I wanted the crowds to die down a bit,
so I waited, and went on a weekday night. Who knew
The Help would be on Oprah's book list or something.
Except for a scattering of people in the back it was empty.
But I enjoyed it.  Even my gal, who's not a fan enjoyed it
too, and said the trailers didn't do it justice.  I did feel the
CG was a bit distracting. But kudos to Andy and the WETA
gang for getting me to feel emotionally engaged by a computer
generated character.  Which is more than some live action
actors can do.  Mark Wahlberg comes to mind. Though
it is a bit lacking, in that no one's going to want an action
figure of a real ape, or show up at a Halloween party as a
real ape.  But I I'd rather have decent movie than a load
of toy tien-ins.  Ewoks killed Star Wars, remember? I was
a little disappointed that some scenes were missing.  Much
like Cornelia went missing soon after her character was introduced
with virtually no development at all. But Fox now doubt wanted to keep
the pace brisk -- long films don't get a lot of audience turn over.  All in
all an enjoyable movie going experience, though if I see it again I'd rather
not see it in a digital theater.  The curvature of the screen was distracting.
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Group: pota Message: 65423 From: jamesa1102 Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: The Mendez Dynasty
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Group: pota Message: 65424 From: James Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

'Planet of the Apes' falls short
FHSU University Leader
The “Planet of the Apes” series has been upsetting children and people who hate apes since 1968. “Rise of the Planet of the Apes” is the first installment of the series since Tim Burton's terrible remake in 2001. Unfortunately, this one isn't much ...
See all stories on this topic »


FHSU University Leader

Classic or clunker? Dusting off Beneath the Planet of the Apes
Crikey (blog)
I am guilty of the latter, as indicated in words I expressed in my review of Rise of the Planet of the Apes . I described ”four crummy sequels” that began after Charlton Heston hollered “you maniacs!” in the sock-ya-in-the-face ending to the original ...
See all stories on this topic »

http://nt0.ggpht.com/news/tbn/4B1hFxi7QdgJ
Crikey (blog)

Latino groups praise 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes'
Examiner.com
Phoenix Latino groups Chicanos Unidos Arizona, Take Back Aztlán and Nuestros Reconquistos will sponsor a free local Maricopa County screening of Rise of the Planet of the Apes this weekend for many Latino families. “We believe this film tells our story ...
See all stories on this topic »

 

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Group: pota Message: 65425 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: FW: ape photos [3 Attachments]
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Great ones!!!
Thanks for sharing.

2011/8/18 James <JamesA1102@...>
[Attachment(s) from James included below]

-----Original Message-----
From: William Burge
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:00 PM
Subject: ape photos

dear group, here are some neat apes photos from william burge


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Group: pota Message: 65426 From: johnroche49 Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] >SPOILER< POTA references in "Rise"
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The logos used in Conquest are on the armbands and are, I think, black on yellow stylised egg timers, because they were the patches used in the earlier tv series, The Time Tunnel.Personally, I don't think the window design from RISE is 'an homage' but it could be!John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
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> Ive seen Conquest fully(get a life) about 100 times atleast and dont remember no logos except for the armbands for apes at the Comand Post. Im probably wrong, I forget details alot easier lately, Take care, John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > I might be mistaken but isn't the bay window design...the one that Caeser draws in his cell and shows up on a stop sign during the revolution....very similar to the Ape Management logo in Conquest? Can't find a pic of that....
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Group: pota Message: 65427 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Francis
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Something I've never seen anybody else mention: on my second viewing
of RISE, I noticed that during one scene in the primate center, the
TVs are showing scenes from one of the "Francis the Talking Mule"
movies!

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 65428 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
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Apes greatest threat will be "Fright Night."
At least the rating on Rotten Tomatoes seem to indicate that.
 
Al

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:47 AM
Subject: [pota] Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?

 
  It's another weekend already and things are looking bad for "Rise of the POTA". After two weekends on top, here come three semi-big movies to try to knock it off it's perch. "Rise" is kind of a remake of "Conquest" and two of the 3 have histories with "Conquest" actors. "Fright Night" is a remake of the movie that had perhaps Roddy's most famous latter day role: horror host Peter Vincent. "Spy Kids 4" continues the franchise that gave Ricardo Montalban a new generation of fans (also, director Robert Rodriguez turned down POTA twice: in the '90's as well as "Rise" itself). There's also a new "Conan the Barbarian"; the 1982 original had Ah-nuld as star and Oliver Stone as credited writer (though none of his work was used) and the duo almost reunited for POTA in the mid-90's.
  Add to that the continued success of "The Help" (which has been beating "Rise" all week) and the apes have their work cut out for them staying on top this weekend.


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Group: pota Message: 65429 From: Dario Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
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I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening and it was quite good. Rise has had it's turn at the top of the box office. The next great surge in popularity we can anticipate will be when the BR/DVDs hit the shelves.

Dario

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:

 

Apes greatest threat will be "Fright Night."
At least the rating on Rotten Tomatoes seem to indicate that.
 
Al

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:47 AM
Subject: [pota] Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?

 
  It's another weekend already and things are looking bad for "Rise of the POTA". After two weekends on top, here come three semi-big movies to try to knock it off it's perch. "Rise" is kind of a remake of "Conquest" and two of the 3 have histories with "Conquest" actors. "Fright Night" is a remake of the movie that had perhaps Roddy's most famous latter day role: horror host Peter Vincent. "Spy Kids 4" continues the franchise that gave Ricardo Montalban a new generation of fans (also, director Robert Rodriguez turned down POTA twice: in the '90's as well as "Rise" itself). There's also a new "Conan the Barbarian"; the 1982 original had Ah-nuld as star and Oliver Stone as credited writer (though none of his work was used) and the duo almost reunited for POTA in the mid-90's.
  Add to that the continued success of "The Help" (which has been beating "Rise" all week) and the apes have their work cut out for them staying on top this weekend.


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Group: pota Message: 65430 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
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> I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening
> and it was quite good.

Are you a fan of the original? From the trailers I've seen, it looks
like they've completely botched everything that I love about the
original.

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 65431 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Francis
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  In the credits they also mention "How I Met Your Mother" (maybe just audio?).

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:54 AM
Subject: [pota] Francis

 

Something I've never seen anybody else mention: on my second viewing
of RISE, I noticed that during one scene in the primate center, the
TVs are showing scenes from one of the "Francis the Talking Mule"
movies!

Hunter

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Group: pota Message: 65432 From: chimel23@comcast.net Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: The Mendez Dynasty
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This is the first time I've read through these, and I'm enjoying it. But it looks like there's a skip...this week's is the Albina VI and VIII with Mendez XVIII coming after. However, this one isn't on the list, it just skips from Mendez XVI to Mendez XVIII. Are they not being done entirely in order, or have you just not got the links all up yet? I'm curious because I don't want to miss any.

Mel
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Group: pota Message: 65433 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise"
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  The nods to the original POTA films are well known now butsomeone made a video about them. Heads-up courtesy www.apecentral.net
 
 
 And...is it a conspiracy <o>?
 
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Group: pota Message: 65434 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise"
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    <o>
 

From: Jeff K.
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: >SPOILER< Easter eggs in "Rise"

  The nods to the original POTA films are well known now butsomeone made a video about them. Heads-up courtesy www.apecentral.net
 
 
 And...is it a conspiracy <o>?
 
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Group: pota Message: 65435 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Francis
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Something I've never seen anybody else mention: on my second viewing
of RISE, I noticed that during one scene in the primate center, the
TVs are showing scenes from one of the "Francis the Talking Mule"
movies!

Hunter


The scenes they show are, I believe, all credited at the end of the movie, but I'll have to wait until I get the Blu-ray.
 
By the way, Hunter, I don't agree with your statement to the BBC that RISE is just a Fox movie with "Planet of the Apes" slapped on the title.  No, it may not have the kind of strong links to the older movies, and it may not credit Pierre Boulle along with the screenwriters, but it's an APES movie.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 65436 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
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It's another weekend already and things are looking bad for "Rise of the POTA". After two weekends on top, here come three semi-big movies to try to knock it off it's perch. "Rise" is kind of a remake of "Conquest" and two of the 3 have histories with "Conquest" actors. "Fright Night" is a remake of the movie that had perhaps Roddy's most famous latter day role: horror host Peter Vincent. "Spy Kids 4" continues the franchise that gave Ricardo Montalban a new generation of fans (also, director Robert Rodriguez turned down POTA twice: in the '90's as well as "Rise" itself). There's also a new "Conan the Barbarian"; the 1982 original had Ah-nuld as star and Oliver Stone as credited writer (though none of his work was used) and the duo almost reunited for POTA in the mid-90's.
  Add to that the continued success of "The Help" (which has been beating "Rise" all week) and the apes have their work cut out for them staying on top this weekend.
It won't stay on top.  According to Boxoffice Mojo, daily this week RISE has only been doing half the business it was doing last week.  But' it'll keep making money for a while.
 
The era of RISE as a theatrical movie is coming to a close.
 
Now the wait for the Blu-ray/DVD begins, and the wait for news of a sequel.
 
-- Rory 
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Group: pota Message: 65437 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
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I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening and it was quite good. Rise has had it's turn at the top of the box office. The next great surge in popularity we can anticipate will be when the BR/DVDs hit the shelves.

Dario
And I'm sill hoping for a new Blu-ray Edition of PLANET will the restoration we read about last November.  I hope they put just PLANET out in one of those Blu-ray Book packagings.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 65438 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Talk about taking the allegory too far!
 
 
What's next?  Alex in Maimi telling everyone, "Watch RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES, and then let's get back Cuba!!!!!!"
 
The nuttiest apes on the planet.... are men!




-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2011 6:37 am
Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 
FYI
 
Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
 
'Planet of the Apes' falls short
FHSU University Leader
The "Planet of the Apes" series has been upsetting children and people who hate apes since 1968. "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" is the first installment of the series since Tim Burton's terrible remake in 2001. Unfortunately, this one isn't much ...
See all stories on this topic »
Classic or clunker? Dusting off Beneath the Planet of the Apes
Crikey (blog)
I am guilty of the latter, as indicated in words I expressed in my review of Rise of the Planet of the Apes. I described "four crummy sequels" that began after Charlton Heston hollered "you maniacs!" in the sock-ya-in-the-face ending to the original ...
See all stories on this topic »
Latino groups praise 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes'
Examiner.com
Phoenix Latino groups Chicanos Unidos Arizona, Take Back Aztlán and Nuestros Reconquistos will sponsor a free local Maricopa County screening of Rise of the Planet of the Apes this weekend for many Latino families. "We believe this film tells our story ...
See all stories on this topic »
 
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Group: pota Message: 65439 From: Jeff K. Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
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  The king is dead. Looong live the king!
 
  Now, fight like apes this weekend!

From: Dario
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?

 

I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening and it was quite good. Rise has had it's turn at the top of the box office. The next great surge in popularity we can anticipate will be when the BR/DVDs hit the shelves.

Dario

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 19, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:

 

Apes greatest threat will be "Fright Night."
At least the rating on Rotten Tomatoes seem to indicate that.
 
Al

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:47 AM
Subject: [pota] Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?

 
  It's another weekend already and things are looking bad for "Rise of the POTA". After two weekends on top, here come three semi-big movies to try to knock it off it's perch. "Rise" is kind of a remake of "Conquest" and two of the 3 have histories with "Conquest" actors. "Fright Night" is a remake of the movie that had perhaps Roddy's most famous latter day role: horror host Peter Vincent. "Spy Kids 4" continues the franchise that gave Ricardo Montalban a new generation of fans (also, director Robert Rodriguez turned down POTA twice: in the '90's as well as "Rise" itself). There's also a new "Conan the Barbarian"; the 1982 original had Ah-nuld as star and Oliver Stone as credited writer (though none of his work was used) and the duo almost reunited for POTA in the mid-90's.
  Add to that the continued success of "The Help" (which has been beating "Rise" all week) and the apes have their work cut out for them staying on top this weekend.


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Group: pota Message: 65440 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: Will "Rise" take a fall this weekend?
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> I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening
> and it was quite good.

Are you a fan of the original? From the trailers I've seen, it looks
like they've completely botched everything that I love about the
original.

Hunter


From what I've read so far, it's getting mixed reviews, and the new CONAN movie is supposed to be terrible.
 
Still looks like RISE is the best SF/Fantasy movie around right now.
 
The BIG question this weekend is.... will either Chris Lawless or Cougar go see it?  I doubt it.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 65441 From: James Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: FW: planet photos
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From: William Burge
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:17 AM
Subject: planet photos

dear group, i found two great photos from planet. from william burge
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Group: pota Message: 65442 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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That's what happenes when anyone just blogs.
They just randomly talk crap. Kinda like me with twitter. lol
 
Al
 

From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:56 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
 
Talk about taking the allegory too far!
 
 
What's next?  Alex in Maimi telling everyone, "Watch RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES, and then let's get back Cuba!!!!!!"
 
The nuttiest apes on the planet.... are men!




-----Original Message----- From: James <JamesA1102@...> To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2011 6:37 am Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
 
FYI
 
Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
 
'Planet of the Apes' falls shortFHSU University Leader
The "Planet of the Apes" series has been upsetting children and people who hate apes since 1968. "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" is the first installment of the series since Tim Burton's terrible remake in 2001. Unfortunately, this one isn't much ...
See all stories on this topic »
Classic or clunker? Dusting off Beneath the Planet of the ApesCrikey (blog)
I am guilty of the latter, as indicated in words I expressed in my review of Rise of the Planet of the Apes. I described "four crummy sequels" that began after Charlton Heston hollered "you maniacs!" in the sock-ya-in-the-face ending to the original ...
See all stories on this topic »
Latino groups praise 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes'Examiner.com
Phoenix Latino groups Chicanos Unidos Arizona, Take Back Aztlán and Nuestros Reconquistos will sponsor a free local Maricopa County screening of Rise of the Planet of the Apes this weekend for many Latino families. "We believe this film tells our story ...
See all stories on this topic »
 
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Group: pota Message: 65443 From: knightangel314 Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Re: The Mendez Dynasty
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D'oh, I think that should have read Albina the VI to the VII

Mel

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, chimel23@... wrote:
>
>
> This is the first time I've read through these, and I'm enjoying it. But it looks like there's a skip...this week's is the Albina VI and VIII with Mendez XVIII coming after. However, this one isn't on the list, it just skips from Mendez XVI to Mendez XVIII. Are they not being done entirely in order, or have you just not got the links all up yet? I'm curious because I don't want to miss any.
>
> Mel
>
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Group: pota Message: 65444 From: Dario Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Another BOOM studios PotA series coming!
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Boom studies has announced another PotA series coming in November:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=33990
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Group: pota Message: 65445 From: Dario Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: OT Fright Night
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While I've always loved the movie, mostly because of Roddy's role as a matter of fact, I can't say I'm an active fan as I am of PotA. I am a fan of horror (especially the old Hammer studios flicks) in general. 

It's funny because a lot of mainstream horror fandom has always embraced PotA to a degree. Naturally, this is because of the fact that while PotA is strictly a science fiction series, the apes are portrayed as human-ape hybrids, which has an element of horror. Same goes for Wells' Island of Dr. Moreau, or even good ol' Frankenstein. Plenty of other examples.

Dario

On Aug 19, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

 

> I had a chance to see the new Fright Night at an advance screening
> and it was quite good.

Are you a fan of the original? From the trailers I've seen, it looks
like they've completely botched everything that I love about the
original.

Hunter

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Group: pota Message: 65446 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 8/19/2011
Subject: Sorry James if I caused any problems! Very important Not apes but ha
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I recently went to the e-mail page to wipe out everything in it which I do everyday and verification came up with an bank advertisment with the two windows to post. I unforntunatly set up a PHISING BUG the destroyes everything and got worse everytime I clicked on something. My computer ended up with over 700 viruses and every move I made Wose. I called AOL THANK GOD I still have them and had to go up to where the tech plays with my computer for me. An amazing amzing show of talent. Because Aol is my carrier they provided this service led me through Yahoo and back to our Wonderfull site and cured it all. He debuged my computer basically. And even though he is AOL he insisted I wright you James to hope(Their was no threat)noone would catch it from me(very unlikely just screws me. I couldnt get on your site no matter what but did not want to go any furthur. I dont care for computer technology and really did not take into account the three trys or five trys(attempts) and F****** MYSELF. Its all clear(dont say a thing)LOL yeah right, So Im writing this apology to you all.
The only defence I got was the news that my fathers got alzheimers disease(NOT A JOKE) and I definitly was not thinking straight. This post is long did not want to forget a thing and I would of done it anyway for my patient brothers here. Thank you and so sorry, John M.
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