--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "." <aquaboi@...> wrote:
>
> there is a place in virginia named shanty town, if you go to the north eastern part of the state, and ask the police where to find it, you might be able to see what its all about.
> it would help you with your perspective on slavery in a modern sense and the after affects. expecially if you wish to draw simularities with the aftermath of the ape revolution in the movies.
> also you might want to check out los angeles in california, and the crack houses there, where dead bodies are thrown in the river daily, and also wrapped in old blankets and left in the dumpsters and streets.
> after you do that little bit of investigation, then you would have a more educated report of ''the plight of the black man''.
> you could also use brown shoe polish and dye your skin brown and try to get a job in your own neighborhood as something that pays more than minimum wage.
> or is this just the kind of polite dinner table talk that you might find in buckinghamn palace about the common rabble that need to pull themselves up by thier own boot straps?
> i thought this was a planet of the apes chat room.
> except for some photos and stories, it seems to be a moneycounting and social commentary room.
> jim
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The company that gave us those great POTA sequel soundtracks is shuttering it's output after their 250th release in 2012 (10 more to be announced). Nothing lasts forever but there will be tears in the soundtrack world tonight.
>
> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51196
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> Hey,all opinions welcome. Agree with most of what you say here, but social commentary is what made Apes -Apes. Take care, John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "." <aquaboi@> wrote:
> >
> > there is a place in virginia named shanty town, if you go to the north eastern part of the state, and ask the police where to find it, you might be able to see what its all about.
> > it would help you with your perspective on slavery in a modern sense and the after affects. expecially if you wish to draw simularities with the aftermath of the ape revolution in the movies.
> > also you might want to check out los angeles in california, and the crack houses there, where dead bodies are thrown in the river daily, and also wrapped in old blankets and left in the dumpsters and streets.
> > after you do that little bit of investigation, then you would have a more educated report of ''the plight of the black man''.
> > you could also use brown shoe polish and dye your skin brown and try to get a job in your own neighborhood as something that pays more than minimum wage.
> > or is this just the kind of polite dinner table talk that you might find in buckinghamn palace about the common rabble that need to pull themselves up by thier own boot straps?
> > i thought this was a planet of the apes chat room.
> > except for some photos and stories, it seems to be a moneycounting and social commentary room.
> > jim
> >
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> I was hoping it was a better version of the TV show The Avengers.
> The other one was lame. Now back in the Logan's Run days,
> Jenny Agutter would have been perfect for the leather catsuit.
> Much better than Uma Thermostat. But now? Jenny Agutter
> is nearly 60! Surely they can find a Diana Rigg / Jenny Agutter
> type. Talk about movies that need a remake! Ralph Finnes?
> He is no John Steed. Anyone want to cast that? Bueller?
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/14/2011 11:06:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> johnroche49@... writes:
>
> The BIG news, however, in Total Film is that Jenny Agutter will play a
> 'council member' in The Avengers movie next year.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "." <aquaboi@...> wrote:
>
> well i guess that is true,
> i guess im a little touchy when it comes to devaluating someones beliefs or holidays, ihad a very bad experience with what i believed being trashed once.
> also i have seen those towns and what they do to people. the biggest problem in america today besides debt, is addiction to meth/crank/speed.
> it ruins people and enslaves them until they are no longer human, just crank machines.
> the whole slave thing that surrounds that and the past slaves, even back to mayans and egyptian times just steams me.
> i have never met a slave owner that i didnt hate. and i have met quite a few.
> seeing women ground down and killed over drugs, men becoming monsters for drugs and short lived power, shot dead over pot fields being stolen from, and growing up into a entraptment that leads only to misery and an early horrible death is where i surfed, walked, ate, loved and lived. i dont feel comfortable in anything that is 'normal', like an ape, or a human in an apes world, i feel like this whole thing should change, and sometimes pushing down the red crystal seems like the best idea. i know it isnt, there should be hope, well, i can just go on and on about it, i live in a city where its about a 70/30 split , druggies and the dying from drugs 70% and the rest hard nosed christians. i just dont fit in at all. and i think thats why i hate any kind of slight against freedom or beliefs or even racial profiling - itjust yanks my chain so hard that i have to say something, well preach something i guess. sometimes trying to be nice doesnt work for me, and i
> apologize for that short comming. someone was really nice to me, and bought my groceries last week , just turned around and paid for them, i guess he needed the karma? i dont really know why, but i decided to try to be more patient and grateful in return, of course life got harder and finally i blew my top about this issue. o well,
> mutant, ape or human or past man, we are all here and im one too. its hard to accept, but you are right,
> planet of the apes is more than just makeup and spaceships and post nuclear holocasts,
> its about us.
> jim
>
> From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:07 PM
> Subject: [pota] Re: Longshot City
>
>
> Â
> Hey,all opinions welcome. Agree with most of what you say here, but social commentary is what made Apes -Apes. Take care, John M.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> She looks awfully darn good to me. 3 degrees of "Battle": She was in "An American Werewolf in London" which was directed by John Landis who played Jake's Friend in "Battle" and is the only director to have directed John Chambers as an actor; and was the first Oscar win for Rick Baker, who did the makeup for POTA2001; and starred David Naughton, who is the brother of James (Burke) Naughton (and David had a cameo in the POTA TV series, if being in ape makeup can be called a cameo). On topic! Whew!!
>
> http://www.jennyagutter.net/
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> I'd even go see that. If they picked up in Washington
> with Leo being carted off by the gorillas from the Lincoln
> Memorial and interrogated in some facility like in Virginia
> like Quantico or Langly? That might be interesting!
>
>
> In a message dated 9/17/2011 6:30:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> johnroche49@... writes:
>
> .We'd be dead in the water if we'd had another Burton.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Thor has taken in $448 globally, by the way, with at least a 50% larger production budget. A Thor sequel's in the making, too:
>
>
>
>
> I watched THOR on Blu-ray earlier this week. What a big nothing of a movie. All these superhero movies are the same and for me are quite boring. There's no suspense to them. You know the hero will and must win. It's really depressing that this merits a sequel.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: georgetaylor68 <georgetaylor68@...>
> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 17, 2011 12:29 am
> Subject: [pota] Rise released in oppressive China, yet? Iran? Thor 2 is in the works...
>
>
>
>
> Might anyone know if Rise has been released in oppressive China, yet? Iran? Neither appear on this list:
>
> http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=riseoftheapes.htm
>
> Similarly rebelion-themed Avatar had trouble in China, I think eventually being forced to air only on 3D screens. And I'm not aware that it ever got released in Iran, although maybe it finally was a year or so after its release elsewhere (if then).
>
> China's quite a large market, with ten times Japan's population. It would seem that Rise will top $400 million in global ticket sales.
>
> Thor has taken in $448 globally, by the way, with at least a 50% larger production budget. A Thor sequel's in the making, too:
>
> http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=thor2.htm
>
> So are we ready for a hybrid of "Full Metal Jacket with Apes" & "12 Monkeys" on perhaps the 50th anniversary of Pierre Boulle's book's release date? Rise has done well in France, by the way...
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks for the warning about Thor. I guess I won't see it after all.
>
>
>
>
>
> Don't get me wrong. I recommend seeing it -- instead of ever looking at POTA2001 again!
>
> So, if you must, by all means watch THOR. It's at least pretty to look at. And drolling over little Natalie Portman sure beats memories of Jenny Agutter from thirty years ago.
>
> -- Rory
>

No, only the director called it a prequel. Amanda Silver & Rick Jaffa, the screenwriters and producers of the film, called it a reboot.

http://www.zakiscorner.com/2011/08/exclusive-interview-rise-of-planet-of.html"

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Yes. Rich Handley.
> The "Rise" filmmakers say it's a direct prequel to the Heston movie but it remains to be seen what that means.
>
>

Really? Then why is the Academy Award for best picture given to a film's producers and not the director?

In this case Amanda Silver & Rick Jaffa were producers as well as being the screenwriters. They were the driving creative force on Rise, not the director. They are the ones who pitched the concept to FOX and got the film made. It's their vision and what they say trumps whatever the director said.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Film is a director's medium. Screenwriters can be changed like spark plugs. Directors can be changed too, but it's their vision.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Really? Then why is the Academy Award for best picture given to a film's
> producers and not the director?
>
> In this case Amanda Silver & Rick Jaffa were producers as well as being
> the screenwriters. They were the driving creative force on Rise, not the
> director. They are the ones who pitched the concept to FOX and got the
> film made. It's their vision and what they say trumps whatever the
> director said.
>

No when directly asked in this interview, they called it a reboot: http://www.zakiscorner.com/2011/08/exclusive-interview-rise-of-planet-of.html/font>

Exactly. In some cases the director is the driving creative force, but not in this one. In this case, the director was a hired hand.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
> Indeed, the previous director was canned when his vision of a caged-young Caesar;s enduring Frankenstein-like conditions at a scientist's home didn't wash with Fox.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The latest foreign and domestic numbers are in. While "Rise" dropped to # 9 in the U.S. (though it could go higher depending on the actual numbers) it's foreign numbers put it at $391 million worldwide. Will it conquer $ half a billion?
>
> http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=riseoftheapes.htm
>

How do you know that? Were you in the offices of FOX when this was all decided?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
And these writers are not honcho producers, they were given the title "producers" so they could stick around and do rewrites and collaborate.

 

They were not non-committal. They are asked the direct question: "This has been called a prequel, it's been called a reboot. What would you call it?"

To which Rick responds: "I guess, if I had to pick, I would say reboot."

Sounds very committal to me.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> They're non-committal in that interview. They say "hopefully" it's a reboot (reboot can mean different things). They say "it could lead to apes taking over the planet and, perhaps, getting Col. Taylor on that beach in 3900 years".
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> They were not non-committal. They are asked the direct question: "This
> has been called a prequel, it's been called a reboot. What would you
> call it?"
>
> To which Rick responds: "I guess, if I had to pick, I would say reboot."
>
> Sounds very committal to me.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> You can either take RISE to be related to the original film, or you can be like a Tea Party bonehead and say, "I don't accept that!"
>

>>That's interesting. I can't recall if I've ever read the first

>>Although I refuse to get dragged back into this debate, since it's

>>I remember being angry the show was cancelled. I wouldn't even

>>The company that gave us those great POTA sequel soundtracks is

>>That's too bad. Hopefully others might see fit to make the Apes

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> The screenwriters created it but the director is the boss. They were producers as a gesture to keep them aboard. The real producers were Dylan Clark and the honcho Peter Chernin. Best Picture is given to the producers because there's already Best Director.
> And besides the screenwriters said it's a prequel too. I guess I'll have to dig and find it. : (
> And where's my post about "Ben-Hur"?
>
>
>
>
> RISE is most emphatically a reboot, but it's also a prequel. It tells a much more scientifically plausible origin story of how the world of the original POTA (with Charlton Heston) started than the one where a trio of apes salvage a sunken spaceship, launch it into orbit just before the world explodes and the shock wave sends them two thousand years back in time where two of the apes have a son who frees a bunch of enslaved apes, survives a nuclear holocaust and suddenly all the apes can speak and win a battle with a bunch of ragtag radiated human survivors. (Yeah, like that scenario makes a lot of sense!)
>
> You can either take RISE to be related to the original film, or you can be like a Tea Party bonehead and say, "I don't accept that!"
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@... wrote:
>
> Definitely not good news, but after reading article on the FSM website I
> completely understand why. Having been associated with an independent
> music label once, I especially understand the paperwork nightmares.
>
> Still, it's an impressive run of work, and I'm glad I was able to
> contribute (in my own small way) to the release of the CONQUEST/BATTLE
> score which- in turn- got me a credit in the 'Special Thanks' section.
> Between that and facilitating the audio corrections in BENEATH (on the
> Blu ray version), it cool to get involved in this stuff.
>
> BTW, no relation between FSM and GNP:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNP_Crescendo_Record_Co
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@... wrote:
>
> The irony being that the animated series has more going for it in terms
> of an overall story arc, subplots, and character development than the
> live action series ever did.
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> >>I remember being angry the show was cancelled. I wouldn't even watch
> the cartoon. I had the attitude some have today about the CG. You took
> away the makeups, I'm not going to watch your damn cartoon. <<
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@... wrote:
>
> Definitely not good news, but after reading article on the FSM website I
> completely understand why. Having been associated with an independent
> music label once, I especially understand the paperwork nightmares.
>
> Still, it's an impressive run of work, and I'm glad I was able to
> contribute (in my own small way) to the release of the CONQUEST/BATTLE
> score which- in turn- got me a credit in the 'Special Thanks' section.
> Between that and facilitating the audio corrections in BENEATH (on the
> Blu ray version), it cool to get involved in this stuff.
>
> BTW, no relation between FSM and GNP:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNP_Crescendo_Record_Co
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:
>
>
> Not sure if you a painting a beautiful image there John. I recently stood behind a very flustered Jenny in Tesco. I smiled as if to say I know you but I'll leave it at that. She filled the boot of her car in haste and sped off.
>
> Rob R
>

Schaffner was a hired hand. The creative force behind Planet was Arthur Jacobs. He bought the rights to the novel. He spent years trying to sell it to the studios. He is the one who put the team together that made the film. In the case of Rise it was Jaffa and Silver who came up with the story and sold it to FOX.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Exactly. In some cases the director is the driving creative force, but not in this one. In this case, the director was a hired hand.
>
> Yeah, like that hired hand Frank Schaffner on the original movie. PLANET would have been just as good without that Schaffner hack!
>
>
> Oh, sorry, folks.
>
> I was just pretending I had a head of bone.
>

OK Then you should be able to post the article that says that Jaffa and Silver were just given a vanity producers credit.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Because I've been following the development of "Rise" and posting it here. They're not producers, they're screenwriters. "Producer" can be a very nebulous title. The nephew of the star can be a "producer". In one of the interviews they said they were very thankful they were included in the production as producers. It's a title sometimes given to screenwriters to keep them around fixing the script as needed. Dylan Clark and Peter Chernin were the nuts and bolts producers. Chernin was the former head of News Corp. and his Chernin Entertainment was the production company that produced it. He is the honcho.
> I think it's still too early to say whether it will be a prequel but if the director says it is that carries the most weight with me.
>
>

If they remake the original then it is not a prequel to the original. It's a remake or reboot.

And I don't recall any ship named Icarus in the original.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> "I guess, if I had to pick" is not committal.
> They're obviously flirting with it by having the "Icarus" in it. That suggests either it's a prequel or they want to remake the original. In that interview Jaffa suggests these films will lead up to the original. As far as a remake, he says: "I'd almost not want to see that. I'd almost prefer that that's just something that's out there that we as the audience know will happen at some point...it could lead to apes taking over the planet and, perhaps, getting Col. Taylor on that beach in 3900 years". He doesn't want to compete with the original by doing a remake, so that leaves prequels heading toward the original. Or why would they even bring up "the Icarus" and Col. Taylor?
> The director has been much more specific and has said "Rise" is a direct prequel to the original.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
> Is Film Score Monthly's demise going to mean that soundtracks for the Escape from the Planet of the Apes, and Beneath the Planet of the Apes films will no longer be available even at Amazon.com, unless from collectors? I was hoping that Rise's release would boost production and lower the prices. I have all the other Apes soundtracks.
>
> Thanks for the info. distinguishing GNP Crescendo, by the way.
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@ wrote:
> >
> > Definitely not good news, but after reading article on the FSM website I
> > completely understand why. Having been associated with an independent
> > music label once, I especially understand the paperwork nightmares.
> >
> > Still, it's an impressive run of work, and I'm glad I was able to
> > contribute (in my own small way) to the release of the CONQUEST/BATTLE
> > score which- in turn- got me a credit in the 'Special Thanks' section.
> > Between that and facilitating the audio corrections in BENEATH (on the
> > Blu ray version), it cool to get involved in this stuff.
> >
> > BTW, no relation between FSM and GNP:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNP_Crescendo_Record_Co
> >
> >
> > Chris L.
> >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Because I've been following the development of "Rise" and posting it here. They're not producers, they're screenwriters. "Producer" can be a very nebulous title. The nephew of the star can be a "producer". In one of the interviews they said they were very thankful they were included in the production as producers. It's a title sometimes given to screenwriters to keep them around fixing the script as needed. Dylan Clark and Peter Chernin were the nuts and bolts producers. Chernin was the former head of News Corp. and his Chernin Entertainment was the production company that produced it. He is the honcho.
> I think it's still too early to say whether it will be a prequel but if the director says it is that carries the most weight with me.
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

As far as a remake, he says: "I'd almost not want to see that. I'd almost prefer that that's just something that's out there that we as the audience know will happen at some point.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "." <aquaboi@...> wrote:
>
> im not trying to be offensive, and im not trying to censor anyones posts here but i am not getting what i wanted out of the group.
> is there another discussion group available that someone can reccomend that talks about the movies, the models, the fan stories?
> i kind of really want to get into the planet of the apes, and to be honest, not have ten or so emails every day about how much money the new movie is making world wide or how black people are ape related.
> thank you.
> Â jim
>
> From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:28 AM
> Subject: [pota] Re: R.I.P. Film Score Monthly soundtracks
>
>
> Â
> FSM is responsible for Beneath and Conquest/Battle. Escape and Planet are from VareseSarabande and the FSM soundtracks will be available till the 3000 copies are exuasted. Beneath I think is gone and you have to buy from second tier sellers. Conquest/Battle is still available. Escape and POTA68 are available. The TV series from Intrada is all gone and commands prices from 50-250 dollars-amazing.
>
> On another subject ,I got the feeling that the writers of Rise were given credit as producers as a deal or compromise or a favor-what a favor. The reel producers are Chernin and company. Take care, John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@> wrote:
> >
> > Is Film Score Monthly's demise going to mean that soundtracks for the Escape from the Planet of the Apes, and Beneath the Planet of the Apes films will no longer be available even at Amazon.com, unless from collectors? I was hoping that Rise's release would boost production and lower the prices. I have all the other Apes soundtracks.
> >
> > Thanks for the info. distinguishing GNP Crescendo, by the way.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Definitely not good news, but after reading article on the FSM website I
> > > completely understand why. Having been associated with an independent
> > > music label once, I especially understand the paperwork nightmares.
> > >
> > > Still, it's an impressive run of work, and I'm glad I was able to
> > > contribute (in my own small way) to the release of the CONQUEST/BATTLE
> > > score which- in turn- got me a credit in the 'Special Thanks' section.
> > > Between that and facilitating the audio corrections in BENEATH (on the
> > > Blu ray version), it cool to get involved in this stuff.
> > >
> > > BTW, no relation between FSM and GNP:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNP_Crescendo_Record_Co
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris L.
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Schaffner was a hired hand. The creative force behind Planet was Arthur Jacobs. He bought the rights to the novel. He spent years trying to sell it to the studios. He is the one who put the team together that made the film. In the case of Rise it was Jaffa and Silver who came up with the story and sold it to FOX.
>
> You couldn't be more wrong about PLANET and Schaffner. He had a great deal of artistic imput into how PLANET came out. I actually give Jacobs far less credit for the success PLANET was. Mort Abrahams deserves more credit than Jacobs. Who the director is means a lot to the final outcome.
>
> Jacobs produced both DR. DOLITTLE and PLANET OF THE APES, but do they look like films from the same man?
>
> Abrahams was producer on both PLANET and the Apjac production THE CHAIRMAN, but do they look like films made by the same man?
>
> THE CHAIRMAN was directed by J. Lee Thompson, and all I can say is thank the Lawgiver it wasn't Thompson who directed PLANET.
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

As far as a remake, he says: "I'd almost not want to see that. I'd almost prefer that that's just something that's out there that we as the audience know will happen at some point.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> Early in this interview, Amanda sez: "What we were trying to do was start with where we are today and see what dominoes would have to fall to get Col. Taylor to that beach 3900 years from now". They consider it an "origin story" leading to the original. A prequel.
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> RISE relates to PLANET. RISE doesn't, it seems to me, relate to the sequels. Those are seperate films. If they were doing a prequel to BENEATH, it might be the story of baby Brent or the adventures of Mighty Mendez or something.
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> Fox has no interest in doing prequels or sequels to BENEATH, ESCAPE, CONQUEST, or BATTLE, nor the Burton debacle. Put those away on the shelf.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> "I guess, if I had to pick" is not committal.
> They're obviously flirting with it by having the "Icarus" in it. That suggests either it's a prequel or they want to remake the original. In that interview Jaffa suggests these films will lead up to the original. As far as a remake, he says: "I'd almost not want to see that. I'd almost prefer that that's just something that's out there that we as the audience know will happen at some point...it could lead to apes taking over the planet and, perhaps, getting Col. Taylor on that beach in 3900 years". He doesn't want to compete with the original by doing a remake, so that leaves prequels heading toward the original. Or why would they even bring up "the Icarus" and Col. Taylor?
> The director has been much more specific and has said "Rise" is a direct prequel to the original.
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> Subject: [pota] Re: Is no sequel, ever, to POTA2001 an extremely likely scenario?
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> They were not non-committal. They are asked the direct question: "This has been called a prequel, it's been called a reboot. What would you call it?"
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> To which Rick responds: "I guess, if I had to pick, I would say reboot."
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> Sounds very committal to me.
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