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I like that it's kind of a twisted, "happy" ending. The guy who caused the end of the world gets a hug and we're celebrating the folks that are going to put us in cages and give us lobotomies.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:37 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"



That would have made a hell of an ending--but maybe too much of a downer for audiences? The upbeat ending we got is , for me,a 'F**k you world--Apes is back!!!' experience, but I'm sadly twisted and evil.I miss the bit that appeared in the trailer but never made the movie where Will says something like 'Don't ever let them find you' to Caesar---that could have stayed in to cement the love between the two.Maybe the delays with the script delayed a novelization? Yes, I'm obsessed by a novelization.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> For those who are interested, this article has the script extract portraying Franco's untimely demise.
>
> http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/last-minute_reshoots_saved_james_francos_character_from_death_in_rise_of_th/
>

I agree about Conquest. As I wrote though in my convoluted way, the novelization of Conquest was really just the original January 1972 shooting script with some embelishments from John Jakes(I think). Sometimes, like I also said, the novelizations are pure writers(The writer of the novel) ideas. Ill keep on keepin on, Take care, John

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah, but, as you point out, Battle and Conquest, as novels, added to the canon by giving us more than the movies, such as the Alpha Omega and the death of Breck.I prefer to novel of Conquest to the actual movie.John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@> wrote:
> >
> > Remember most novelizations are just the scripts with the writer adding in his or her own opinions and ideas and not really revelations on what was to be. Sometimes it is like the novelizations of Conquest and Battle but mostly its just a writers ideas. John M, again.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That would have made a hell of an ending--but maybe too much of a downer for audiences? The upbeat ending we got is , for me,a 'F**k you world--Apes is back!!!' experience, but I'm sadly twisted and evil.I miss the bit that appeared in the trailer but never made the movie where Will says something like 'Don't ever let them find you' to Caesar---that could have stayed in to cement the love between the two.Maybe the delays with the script delayed a novelization? Yes, I'm obsessed by a novelization.John, Scrolls.
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For those who are interested, this article has the script extract portraying Franco's untimely demise.
> > > >
> > > > http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/last-minute_reshoots_saved_james_francos_character_from_death_in_rise_of_th/
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I think the ending where you see the virus traveling the world worked better and was more subtle than a radio broadcast.


From: Alex Ruiz
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:13 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"




I'm glad they made the changes in the script. I think there was also the part where I believe Caesar created the virus which I think was kinda lame. and Also the part where Will was trying to feed Caesar a poison cookie. Also lame.
The only part I wish they left was the ending where you hear radio broadcasts of a deadly virus while the camera was zooming in on Caesar. That was a pretty dramatic ending. Although I'm sure that was removed due to Caesar now, not being responsible for the virus.

Overall they chose the right path for the film.
Now when in the hell is the bluray coming out! lol

Al


From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"



I like that it's kind of a twisted, "happy" ending. The guy who caused the end of the world gets a hug and we're celebrating the folks that are going to put us in cages and give us lobotomies.

From: johnroche49
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:37 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"

That would have made a hell of an ending--but maybe too much of a downer for audiences? The upbeat ending we got is , for me,a 'F**k you world--Apes is back!!!' experience, but I'm sadly twisted and evil.I miss the bit that appeared in the trailer but never made the movie where Will says something like 'Don't ever let them find you' to Caesar---that could have stayed in to cement the love between the two.Maybe the delays with the script delayed a novelization? Yes, I'm obsessed by a novelization.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> For those who are interested, this article has the script extract portraying Franco's untimely demise.
>
> http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/last-minute_reshoots_saved_james_francos_character_from_death_in_rise_of_th/
>

"Fast 5" is coming out on blu today I think, or soon, and it just opened in Japan. So Japan has nothing to do with blu-ray announcements. "Rise" should have been announced by now. I can only hope they're working on something really cool for the blu-ray and they don't want to announce it until they're sure when they can deliver. But probably not. I think it will be released early December.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:38 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"






I'm glad they made the changes in the script. I think there was also the part where I believe Caesar created the virus which I think was kinda lame. and Also the part where Will was trying to feed Caesar a poison cookie. Also lame.
The only part I wish they left was the ending where you hear radio broadcasts of a deadly virus while the camera was zooming in on Caesar. That was a pretty dramatic ending. Although I'm sure that was removed due to Caesar now, not being responsible for the virus.

Overall they chose the right path for the film.
Now when in the hell is the bluray coming out! lol

Al

As I've said before, because they can play our DVDs and Blu-rays in Japan, Fox won't announce a release until after the Japanese opening. I do expect it by the end of this month though, probably before.

Also, hopefully, the commentaries on the discs from the director and writers will tell the whys of everything.

-- Rory

I feel an even more dramatic ending would of been more in "Ape" trdition. Will dying or getting killed, or something in the vain of what you mentioned would have been more melodramatic, but even though the ending was good it still was an audience pleaser like Escapes ending but in reverse. In other words someone good should have died. Just my opinion, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> I'm glad they made the changes in the script. I think there was also the part where I believe Caesar created the virus which I think was kinda lame. and Also the part where Will was trying to feed Caesar a poison cookie. Also lame.
> The only part I wish they left was the ending where you hear radio broadcasts of a deadly virus while the camera was zooming in on Caesar. That was a pretty dramatic ending. Although I'm sure that was removed due to Caesar now, not being responsible for the virus.
> Â
> Overall they chose the right path for the film.
> Now when in the hell is the bluray coming out! lol
> Â
> Al
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I take a certain comfort from the ending they went with, inasmuch as it screams 'SEQUEL!!!'.Once the sequel is formally announced (any news!?) we can sit back and enjoy two years of fan enthusiasm/bitching and go to sleep at night knowing Apes lives.RISE kind of snuck up on me--I didn't get into full geek anticipation mode until late on.I want the full two years next time.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Drucker" <sdrucker@...> wrote:
>
> Or for an ending consistent with the movie as an origin film, have snapshots of empty streets in major cities, followed by a newspaper with the headline “Global Pandemic” blowing past the Statue of Liberty (and for extra credit, a shot of ICBMs in the sky and over the Atlantic Ocean). Fade to black, then.
>
>
>
> From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:23 PM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, I would say that both could have been used.
>
> Radio reports, camera closing in on Caesar, sudden BLACK, then the globle CG virus with closing credits.
>
> That's double the impact.
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>
>
> Spielberg and Cameron combined could only wish they had my talent. lol
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> Al
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>
> From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"
>
>
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> I think the ending where you see the virus traveling the world worked better and was more subtle than a radio broadcast.
>
> From: Alex Ruiz
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:13 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"
>
> I'm glad they made the changes in the script. I think there was also the part where I believe Caesar created the virus which I think was kinda lame. and Also the part where Will was trying to feed Caesar a poison cookie. Also lame.
> The only part I wish they left was the ending where you hear radio broadcasts of a deadly virus while the camera was zooming in on Caesar. That was a pretty dramatic ending. Although I'm sure that was removed due to Caesar now, not being responsible for the virus.
>
> Overall they chose the right path for the film.
> Now when in the hell is the bluray coming out! lol
>
> Al
>
> From: Jeff K. <veetus@... <mailto:veetus%40earthlink.net> >
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"
>
> I like that it's kind of a twisted, "happy" ending. The guy who caused the end of the world gets a hug and we're celebrating the folks that are going to put us in cages and give us lobotomies.
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:37 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"
>
> That would have made a hell of an ending--but maybe too much of a downer for audiences? The upbeat ending we got is , for me,a 'F**k you world--Apes is back!!!' experience, but I'm sadly twisted and evil.I miss the bit that appeared in the trailer but never made the movie where Will says something like 'Don't ever let them find you' to Caesar---that could have stayed in to cement the love between the two.Maybe the delays with the script delayed a novelization? Yes, I'm obsessed by a novelization.John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <mailto:pota%40yahoogroups.com> , "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > For those who are interested, this article has the script extract portraying Franco's untimely demise.
> >
> > http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/last-minute_reshoots_saved_james_francos_character_from_death_in_rise_of_th/
> >
>

Another motivation for a novelization is the potential for more novels in an expanded universe.Whatever we think about Burton's Apes, Bill Quick's books were, I honestly feel, excellent--especially the two sequels.And the two published junior prequel novels are fantastically enjoyable and far more 'Ape-universe' in tone and feel than the rest of Burton-world.The junior novelization of the Burton movie itself is great--an albino, gorilla Thade, for example! One novel can open up a whole world.Wouldn't it be interesting to have a RISE novel looking at, say, Europe? I live in hope!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> I agree about Conquest. As I wrote though in my convoluted way, the novelization of Conquest was really just the original January 1972 shooting script with some embelishments from John Jakes(I think). Sometimes, like I also said, the novelizations are pure writers(The writer of the novel) ideas. Ill keep on keepin on, Take care, John
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, but, as you point out, Battle and Conquest, as novels, added to the canon by giving us more than the movies, such as the Alpha Omega and the death of Breck.I prefer to novel of Conquest to the actual movie.John, Scrolls.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Remember most novelizations are just the scripts with the writer adding in his or her own opinions and ideas and not really revelations on what was to be. Sometimes it is like the novelizations of Conquest and Battle but mostly its just a writers ideas. John M, again.
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That would have made a hell of an ending--but maybe too much of a downer for audiences? The upbeat ending we got is , for me,a 'F**k you world--Apes is back!!!' experience, but I'm sadly twisted and evil.I miss the bit that appeared in the trailer but never made the movie where Will says something like 'Don't ever let them find you' to Caesar---that could have stayed in to cement the love between the two.Maybe the delays with the script delayed a novelization? Yes, I'm obsessed by a novelization.John, Scrolls.
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > For those who are interested, this article has the script extract portraying Franco's untimely demise.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/last-minute_reshoots_saved_james_francos_character_from_death_in_rise_of_th/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:

> Now when in the hell is the bluray coming out! lol

Ahhhh, Al, if only we had a countdown site! :0)

Dave

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In the original script for Butons Apes Thade was an albino gorilla so that wasnt an original idea as you might know. See what im talking about, these novelizations are sometimes just original scripts mixed up and shacken and stirred and poured to look original when in reality its a convoluted mess that might entertain. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Another motivation for a novelization is the potential for more novels in an expanded universe.Whatever we think about Burton's Apes, Bill Quick's books were, I honestly feel, excellent--especially the two sequels.And the two published junior prequel novels are fantastically enjoyable and far more 'Ape-universe' in tone and feel than the rest of Burton-world.The junior novelization of the Burton movie itself is great--an albino, gorilla Thade, for example! One novel can open up a whole world.Wouldn't it be interesting to have a RISE novel looking at, say, Europe? I live in hope!!! John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@> wrote:
> >
> > I agree about Conquest. As I wrote though in my convoluted way, the novelization of Conquest was really just the original January 1972 shooting script with some embelishments from John Jakes(I think). Sometimes, like I also said, the novelizations are pure writers(The writer of the novel) ideas. Ill keep on keepin on, Take care, John
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, but, as you point out, Battle and Conquest, as novels, added to the canon by giving us more than the movies, such as the Alpha Omega and the death of Breck.I prefer to novel of Conquest to the actual movie.John, Scrolls.
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Remember most novelizations are just the scripts with the writer adding in his or her own opinions and ideas and not really revelations on what was to be. Sometimes it is like the novelizations of Conquest and Battle but mostly its just a writers ideas. John M, again.
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That would have made a hell of an ending--but maybe too much of a downer for audiences? The upbeat ending we got is , for me,a 'F**k you world--Apes is back!!!' experience, but I'm sadly twisted and evil.I miss the bit that appeared in the trailer but never made the movie where Will says something like 'Don't ever let them find you' to Caesar---that could have stayed in to cement the love between the two.Maybe the delays with the script delayed a novelization? Yes, I'm obsessed by a novelization.John, Scrolls.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For those who are interested, this article has the script extract portraying Franco's untimely demise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/last-minute_reshoots_saved_james_francos_character_from_death_in_rise_of_th/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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I like Shatner and Star Trek but if hes serious about Rise he has some balls considering his acting and especially his directing skills. But whatever, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> HitFix (blog)
> "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" - 20th Century Fox's summer blockbuster is
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"Capt. America" was released two weeks before "Rise" and it hits blu-ray in 3 weeks.
By the way, "Capt. America" is now beating "Rise" daily at the U.S. box office. How'd that happen?


From: Alex Ruiz
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:32 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"




Amazing. "The Help" gets it's bluray release date (released a week after RISE) and yet we're still waiting.
Now I know it's something personal. Personal towards this POTA Group and Fox. lol

Al


From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: The original end of "Rise"





"Fast 5" is coming out on blu today I think, or soon, and it just opened in Japan. So Japan has nothing to do with blu-ray announcements.

Yeah? How do you know? Where's your proof?

-- James

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Like he knows bad . . . Meh...

 

In a message dated 10/5/2011 11:09:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

William Shatner thought RISE was bad?

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Shatner doesn't like RISE? See, this is what I'm talking about.Roddenberry exults over the cancellation of the POTA TV Series and now Shatner criticises RISE---TREK IS EVIL!!!! Trek is part of the forces of darkness and can only be expunged by the Holy, Divine Fallout of Apes.Let battle lines be clearly drawn--you're either Apes or Trek--you CANNOT be both.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> I like Shatner and Star Trek but if hes serious about Rise he has some balls considering his acting and especially his directing skills. But whatever, John M.
>

Yes, I did gather, somewhere along the line, that the novelizations were based on scripts.Words like 'adaptation' and little clues like similar characters, titles and plots,credits for screen writers, etc., gradually seeped into my mind and a light bulb went off--'My god, they must be based on earlier scripts!'.Quite a shock, I can tell you. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> In the original script for Butons Apes Thade was an albino gorilla so that wasnt an original idea as you might know. See what im talking about, these novelizations are sometimes just original scripts mixed up and shacken and stirred and poured to look original when in reality its a convoluted mess that might entertain. Take care, John M.
>

I think, maybe, Captain America has the gradually building vibe of next years's The Avengers to thank for it's ongoing legs.Excitement is building with the release of new pics, plus the THOR discs are a great teaser for next year--with CAP still out there to view now.I, personally, think Marvel Productions have timed and judged this whole project wonderfully.They seem to know and cater for their fans.A mad idea, but it just might work.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> "Capt. America" was released two weeks before "Rise" and it hits blu-ray in 3 weeks.
> By the way, "Capt. America" is now beating "Rise" daily at the U.S. box office. How'd that happen?
>
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"Rise of the POTA" is hitting Japan, oh, about now, and got a pretty good write up in the Japan Times.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/ff20111007a1.html"

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Got most of them, not to be a wise acre. They are color slides, some are from 2 1/4 color slides that are the basis for the apes lobby cards or just blowups from color slides. I have most like I said , but I had the chance to aquire the slides themselves and let it go-What a Fool I was. Nice shots. Take care , John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, icysugarspike <icysugarspike@...> wrote:
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> Jim,
> Just to let you know, there are some amazing pictures and publicity stills (some of which I've never seen before) on this French website. Mostly from the first Apes movie, but if you click on the series, you can find other stuff, too.
> Mike
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> Â http://www.toutlecine.com/film/photos/0036/00363827-la-planete-des-singes.html"
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> Subject: [pota] The Mendez Dynasty/Marvel Archive & More!
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 7, 2011, 6:36 AM
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> Happy friday! A new installment of THE MENDEZ DYNASTY is now online.
> To read the new MENDEZ biography, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm.
> Also, the final chapter of Marvel's adaptation of "Escape from the Planet of the Apes" has been added to the MARVEL ARCHIVE.
> To access the ARCHIVE click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm.
> In the group website, the TV series one sheets page has been updated with the rare Go Ape! one sheet issued for the series by FOX in 1973. It can be viewed here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/TV.htm%c3%82%c2%a0 and on the mirror site: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/TV.htm.
> Have a great Columbus Day weekend everyone!
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> Lessons from the Lawgiver â€" Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
> Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
> Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
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I really like the TV Zaius pic too. I think the TV Zaius was possibly the coolest looking Apes of all!John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:
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> Loving the TV Zaius shot. Similar shots I've seen but not that one. Was it taken bt Ian Vaughan?
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> Subject: [pota] Re: French Apes Pix
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Fox's new prez of consumer products Jeffrey Godsick sez there's new merchandising potential in the revived POTA franchise. Well, duh, but it's nice to hear someone at Fox finally say it. Prez sez!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jeffrey-godsick-named-president-fox-245201

I recently saw the first episode of the old Wonder Woman TV series with Lynda Carter and found several ape alumni.

Eric Braeden as a German pilot
John Randolph as a military officer
Severn Darden as a German thug with a weird drawl

My apologies on any spelling errors, just thought it was neat!

This week's worldwide total for "Rise of the POTA" is in, rising to $418 million. So this week it beat the Kevin Costner flick "The Bodyguard", it beat Burton's "Batman" movie, it beat "The King's Speech", it beat the first "Sex and the City" movie, it even beat a "Narnia" movie. In a few weeks it might even beat "Terminator 3". The beat goes on.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=riseoftheapes.htm

I assume that includes Japan. It made $9 million since last week so that sounds about right. None of these countries puts in an opening weekend like the U.S. does. We can probably say buh-bye to $500 million but maybe it will still put the hurt on "Thor" ($448 m.).


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 12:20 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: The beat goes on






This week's worldwide total for "Rise of the POTA" is in, rising to $418 million. So this week it beat the Kevin Costner flick "The Bodyguard", it beat Burton's "Batman" movie, it beat "The King's Speech", it beat the first "Sex and the City" movie, it even beat a "Narnia" movie. In a few weeks it might even beat "Terminator 3". The beat goes on.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=riseoftheapes.htm



Yeah, but how's it doing in Japan? This is the opening weekend there, isn't it?

According to my calculations "Rise of the POTA" has entered the Top 10 for year worldwide. Observe:

1. Harry Potter, uh, 8? - - $1.3 billion
2. Transformers 3 - - $1.1 b.
3. Pirates 4 - - $1 b.
4. Kung Fu Panda 2 - - $661 million
5. Fast 5 - - $620 million
6. Cars 2 - - $550 m.
7. Smurfs - - $532 m.
8. Rio - - $483 m.
9. Thor - - $448 m.
10. Rise - - $418 m.

Maybe "Rise" will beat "Thor". If it beats "Rio" it's Fox's #1. Plus there's whatever the rest of year has. "Tin Tin" (again with Andy Serkis and WETA)? "Mission: Impossible 4"?

"Rise" opened to $6.2 million in Japan.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/foreign-box-office-real-steel-245967


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 12:20 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: The beat goes on






This week's worldwide total for "Rise of the POTA" is in, rising to $418 million. So this week it beat the Kevin Costner flick "The Bodyguard", it beat Burton's "Batman" movie, it beat "The King's Speech", it beat the first "Sex and the City" movie, it even beat a "Narnia" movie. In a few weeks it might even beat "Terminator 3". The beat goes on.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=riseoftheapes.htm



Yeah, but how's it doing in Japan? This is the opening weekend there, isn't it?

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I don't see the numbers from Japan, or the

updated numbers from Italy.  I wonder if the

(Estimate) includes those. Anyone know?

 

 

In a message dated 10/9/2011 1:55:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

 

This week's worldwide total for "Rise of the POTA" is in, rising to $418 million. So this week it beat the Kevin Costner flick "The Bodyguard", it beat Burton's "Batman" movie, it beat "The King's Speech", it beat the first "Sex and the City" movie, it even beat a "Narnia" movie. In a few weeks it might even beat "Terminator 3". The beat goes on.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=riseoftheapes.htm

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That puts it at #1 in Japan.

 

 

In a message dated 10/9/2011 5:19:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

Rise" opened to $6.2 million in Japan.

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Most in this group are kiddy movies. Maybe its a badge of honor not to be included? Kidding,HaHa, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> According to my calculations "Rise of the POTA" has entered the Top 10 for year worldwide. Observe:
>
> 1. Harry Potter, uh, 8? - - $1.3 billion
> 2. Transformers 3 - - $1.1 b.
> 3. Pirates 4 - - $1 b.
> 4. Kung Fu Panda 2 - - $661 million
> 5. Fast 5 - - $620 million
> 6. Cars 2 - - $550 m.
> 7. Smurfs - - $532 m.
> 8. Rio - - $483 m.
> 9. Thor - - $448 m.
> 10. Rise - - $418 m.
>
> Maybe "Rise" will beat "Thor". If it beats "Rio" it's Fox's #1. Plus there's whatever the rest of year has. "Tin Tin" (again with Andy Serkis and WETA)? "Mission: Impossible 4"?
>

I know ive been beating a dead Ape uh horse for so long but the versions that are shown on HBO/MAX ,and according to people at Fox, they(HBO) do their own mastering(that was years ago, I dont think they do their own mastering anymore but their are differences in sound so somebody is doing the mastering better)and are the correct ones in sound balance etc,etc. Just listen to the sound differnces of Beneath from 1977-2008. Many different sources and quality of work.
Other than just sounding right, I compared them(back when we last talked about this about a year and a half ago) to my Movie drive- in hard wired sound recorded at a Go-Apes festival in 1974 and the CBS premieres in 73-74, the sound balances are right and ofcourse no CD soundtrack audio is used as is in the Blurays and DVDs of the last 10 -15 years and some broadcasts from Encore in 1992 and other broadcasts.
The music sound is perfect on the isolated tracks (Bluray)on the sequels. The sound effects are a mishmash of good and bad sound leads from everywhere and the dialouge sound in general is correct. The problem is the person who is doing the MIXING. The Apes are slowely getting better soundwise so in about 5-10 years it should be perfect-lol.
The Apes series deserve (not just POTA68) a perfect restoration as the first A-movie sci-fi series of the modern era and I feel that Fox will do it eventually if the Rise trilogy go's on making the big bucks. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@... wrote:
>
> "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> "Beneath is still a problamatic effects sound problem esp. like I said
> with the chimps protesting and the gorillas talking as they put them in
> the cages. That whole scene sound wise is poor but HBO has it correct."
>
> You mean that the Blu-ray is still problematic but the version shown in
> HBO is 100% correct with this particular scene? How does the bleeding
> Lawgiver scene sound on HBO?
>
>
> "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> >>And for all digest members, you can check the group's calendar to find
> out about all upcoming airings of the films:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal <<
>
> This Saturday October, HBO Family and HBO Family HD is showing a marathon
> of all five films starting at noon EST. I'll try and post a reminder on
> Friday, but if I don't hopefully someone else will. Otherwise those who
> receive the Digest version of this list will read about it the day
> afterwards because of when Yahoo mails them out.
>
>
> Chris L.
>

In all my writing in the previous post you also asked about the Lawgiver scene. That scene had audio delays and volume problems for years and was finnaly fixed-sortof-about a couple of DVD and the Bluray version ago. It still(It sounds like they went back to the Magnetic video audio tape and enhanced it for todays sound) has the same mixing problems of volume and quality of sound but its passable. The effects and or dialouge have abrupt editing and bad fades like the Ursus speech. If you listen closely just before he says "The Only good..." theirs a hard sound splice interjected at that point like a hard erase was made and the tape head just hit the tape. I have a hard time explaining this because I could sit for hours showing where all the problems are with Beneath, some Conquest, alot of POTA68, but Escape and Battle are 99 percent right so Ill forget them now.
The three apes films POTA68, Beneath, some Conquest have alot of "lets make do with what we got and make it work" sound. As I said forever the elements are physicaly close to Fox or in Fox itself on some shelf, but it takes work and alot of money to get it done correctly. The question I always had was who screwed the sound up on these movies to begin with. Its like the sound reels were lost and to hunt for them would be, as I said, a pain in the neck for them. Then when the proper CDs came out and the versions on HBO starting in 1992 I realized that Fox are just plain morons(That was my opinion at that time)and the people involved felt that an Apes fan wouldnt notice. When the Laserdiscs came out and did not correct the inequities of the picture and sound from the early 1980s then the collectors started bitching like myself and we found out alot. Writers from all the Laser rags like Pond Scum, Laserdisc Gazzette, and one of the best(I just forgot the name. It was yellow most of the time on regular paper and reviews and news were great) were just a drop in the bucket of people who reviewed and agreed with what I was saying and did their best but hit brick walls like myself.
Ill give it a rest now and try not to waste anymore of this groups time but I heard so much BS and lazy and halfwitted attempts by Fox that I almost went nuts. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> I know ive been beating a dead Ape uh horse for so long but the versions that are shown on HBO/MAX ,and according to people at Fox, they(HBO) do their own mastering(that was years ago, I dont think they do their own mastering anymore but their are differences in sound so somebody is doing the mastering better)and are the correct ones in sound balance etc,etc. Just listen to the sound differnces of Beneath from 1977-2008. Many different sources and quality of work.
> Other than just sounding right, I compared them(back when we last talked about this about a year and a half ago) to my Movie drive- in hard wired sound recorded at a Go-Apes festival in 1974 and the CBS premieres in 73-74, the sound balances are right and ofcourse no CD soundtrack audio is used as is in the Blurays and DVDs of the last 10 -15 years and some broadcasts from Encore in 1992 and other broadcasts.
> The music sound is perfect on the isolated tracks (Bluray)on the sequels. The sound effects are a mishmash of good and bad sound leads from everywhere and the dialouge sound in general is correct. The problem is the person who is doing the MIXING. The Apes are slowely getting better soundwise so in about 5-10 years it should be perfect-lol.
> The Apes series deserve (not just POTA68) a perfect restoration as the first A-movie sci-fi series of the modern era and I feel that Fox will do it eventually if the Rise trilogy go's on making the big bucks. Take care, John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@ wrote:
> >
> > "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@> wrote:
> >
> > "Beneath is still a problamatic effects sound problem esp. like I said
> > with the chimps protesting and the gorillas talking as they put them in
> > the cages. That whole scene sound wise is poor but HBO has it correct."
> >
> > You mean that the Blu-ray is still problematic but the version shown in
> > HBO is 100% correct with this particular scene? How does the bleeding
> > Lawgiver scene sound on HBO?
> >
> >
> > "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> > >>And for all digest members, you can check the group's calendar to find
> > out about all upcoming airings of the films:
> > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal <<
> >
> > This Saturday October, HBO Family and HBO Family HD is showing a marathon
> > of all five films starting at noon EST. I'll try and post a reminder on
> > Friday, but if I don't hopefully someone else will. Otherwise those who
> > receive the Digest version of this list will read about it the day
> > afterwards because of when Yahoo mails them out.
> >
> >
> > Chris L.
> >
>

Except for "Thor" they are all either kiddy movies or well-established franchises. And come on, 3 movies making a billion dollars in one summer? That's going to cut into the rest. Especially in this economy. If a family of 5 is going to see "Harry Potter" 20 times they have to cut back and see "Rise" only twice.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 10:41 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise" of the Top 10



Most in this group are kiddy movies. Maybe its a badge of honor not to be included? Kidding,HaHa, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> According to my calculations "Rise of the POTA" has entered the Top 10 for year worldwide. Observe:
>
> 1. Harry Potter, uh, 8? - - $1.3 billion
> 2. Transformers 3 - - $1.1 b.
> 3. Pirates 4 - - $1 b.
> 4. Kung Fu Panda 2 - - $661 million
> 5. Fast 5 - - $620 million
> 6. Cars 2 - - $550 m.
> 7. Smurfs - - $532 m.
> 8. Rio - - $483 m.
> 9. Thor - - $448 m.
> 10. Rise - - $418 m.
>
> Maybe "Rise" will beat "Thor". If it beats "Rio" it's Fox's #1. Plus there's whatever the rest of year has. "Tin Tin" (again with Andy Serkis and WETA)? "Mission: Impossible 4"?
>

Hey Patrick,

I am Drew Gaska - Author of Conspiracy. if you want to set up a public Q&A, I can explain a bunch of things which I believe you have taken out of hand. Some of the things you have mentioned on your message board (POTA_Phenomenon) I have already debunked on the Apecalypse Forums, and others that you think are incorrect are because you don't have the whole story yet - The sequel to Conspiracy (which I am finishing the first draft of) comes out next Fall. Please realize that I am a life long fan of the franchise, and my plan was to make all the conflicting facts make sense together - something I am working hard to make happen.

It is an ambitious project - something that has never been done in an official manner before, and I am bound to make a few mistakes along the way. I am only human, and the apes only give me access to a computer a few hours a day.

You say in your post that you don't want to "dump" on someone else's interpretation - but your frustration at my officially licensed book that I have poured my heart and finances into is coming through in a somewhat unprofessional manner - I would rather be open to discussion to address your concerns.

Feel free to contact me - I would love to address these issues with all the fans. It will help me to make sure I am serving the franchise in the best manner as well. Its all about ape love!

Yours,

Drew Gaska
Author

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No one want to slave away in the salt mines.

But that's where the film achieves are. In a

900 acre salt mine in Kansas. But only 50

acres are for storage, so that narrows it

down a little.  And you don't have to stoop.

So that cuts down on pains...in the neck anyway. 

 

 

In a message dated 10/10/2011 8:39:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnmermigas@... writes:

Its like the sound reels were lost and to hunt for them would be, as I said, a pain in the neck for them.

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Ape-parently "Rise" has been announced for Dec. 12 in the U.K. for home theaters, so I would suspect the U.S. announcement would be soon, maybe today. Dec. 12 is a Monday so it probably won't be that, but probably December. More importantly, it won't be on my birthday. Not fair! Not fair!
But you know, what do I care? One of my favorite movies of all time is coming out on blu-ray on my birthday. "Blue Velvet" (or should I say "Blu Velvet"?). Yes, that's right. The David Lynch classic. Not only that, but Mr. Lynch is releasing his debut album as a singer on my birthday, too. He's a good man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0PbwLTLKA4
Mr. Lynch was able to make "Blu Velvet" as part of the deal for directing "Dune". "Dune" was to have been Arthur Jacobs' sci-fi follow up to the POTA franchise if not for his untimely death. But Mr. Lynch was the one (and so far only) dude who brought it to the movie screen. On topic!

http://filmonic.com/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-dvd-release-date

Thats where Bart Pierce told me they were after years of nagging. In Kansas and at RCA on La Brea in L.A. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> No one want to slave away in the salt mines.
> But that's where the film achieves are. In a
> 900 acre salt mine in Kansas. But only 50
> acres are for storage, so that narrows it
> down a little. And you don't have to stoop.
> So that cuts down on pains...in the neck anyway.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/10/2011 8:39:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> johnmermigas@... writes:
>
> Its like the sound reels were lost and to hunt for them would be, as I
> said, a pain in the neck for them.
>

On when the DVD should hit our Stinking Paws?
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Somebody has told me that the 'metal box' version will be available, too, not just in France.Not totally sold on why a metal box is better.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Ape-parently "Rise" has been announced for Dec. 12 in the U.K. for home theaters, so I would suspect the U.S. announcement would be soon, maybe today. Dec. 12 is a Monday so it probably won't be that, but probably December. More importantly, it won't be on my birthday. Not fair! Not fair!
> But you know, what do I care? One of my favorite movies of all time is coming out on blu-ray on my birthday. "Blue Velvet" (or should I say "Blu Velvet"?). Yes, that's right. The David Lynch classic. Not only that, but Mr. Lynch is releasing his debut album as a singer on my birthday, too. He's a good man.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0PbwLTLKA4
> Mr. Lynch was able to make "Blu Velvet" as part of the deal for directing "Dune". "Dune" was to have been Arthur Jacobs' sci-fi follow up to the POTA franchise if not for his untimely death. But Mr. Lynch was the one (and so far only) dude who brought it to the movie screen. On topic!
>
> http://filmonic.com/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-dvd-release-date
>

That has nothing to do with it. Fox has a theatrical division for Japan and a video division for the DVD. They just announced the U.K. DVD. They can walk and chew gum at the same time. We'll probably get the announcement any minute. "Rise" opens in China Oct. 28.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:51 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"




Fox's "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" launched in Japan, where the pic scored almost 80% of its total weekend take. The Japanese B.O. contributed $6.2 million to "Apes," which grossed $7.8 million this weekend for an overseas cume of $245.4 million. Fox said it expects "Apes" to generate strong results in Japan through Monday, a public holiday in that country.


You see, this is why I've said don't expect any Blu-ray/DVD announcement right now -- Fox has Japan on its mind right now. I think I'll be at least another two weeks before we hear anything.

-- Rory







-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 6:48 am
Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"



FYI

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"


UK DVD/Blu-Ray Release Date forRise Of The Planet Of The Apes; New Cover Art ...
Comic Book Movie
Featuring a familiar image (though not identical), check out the new UK cover art for Rupert Wyatt's critically-acclaimed Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, as well as when the film hits stores in the UK... Will Rodman (James Franco), currently residing ...
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'Real Steel' shows BO mettle
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Fox's "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" launched in Japan, where the pic scored almost 80% of its total weekend take. The Japanese BO contributed $6.2 million to "Apes," which grossed $7.8 million this weekend for an overseas cume of $245.4 million. ...
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The England DVD is region 2 so thats why as youknow an announcement can be made. America and Japan are region 1 so I have a feeling Rory is correct. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> That has nothing to do with it. Fox has a theatrical division for Japan and a video division for the DVD. They just announced the U.K. DVD. They can walk and chew gum at the same time. We'll probably get the announcement any minute. "Rise" opens in China Oct. 28.
>
>
> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:51 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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>
>
> Fox's "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" launched in Japan, where the pic scored almost 80% of its total weekend take. The Japanese B.O. contributed $6.2 million to "Apes," which grossed $7.8 million this weekend for an overseas cume of $245.4 million. Fox said it expects "Apes" to generate strong results in Japan through Monday, a public holiday in that country.
>
>
> You see, this is why I've said don't expect any Blu-ray/DVD announcement right now -- Fox has Japan on its mind right now. I think I'll be at least another two weeks before we hear anything.
>
> -- Rory
>
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>
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James <JamesA1102@...>
> To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 6:48 am
> Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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>
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> FYI
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> Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
> UK DVD/Blu-Ray Release Date forRise Of The Planet Of The Apes; New Cover Art ...
> Comic Book Movie
> Featuring a familiar image (though not identical), check out the new UK cover art for Rupert Wyatt's critically-acclaimed Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, as well as when the film hits stores in the UK... Will Rodman (James Franco), currently residing ...
> See all stories on this topic »
> 'Real Steel' shows BO mettle
> Variety
> Fox's "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" launched in Japan, where the pic scored almost 80% of its total weekend take. The Japanese BO contributed $6.2 million to "Apes," which grossed $7.8 million this weekend for an overseas cume of $245.4 million. ...
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It has nothing to do with it. "Fast 5" just opened in Japan and it's already on blu-ray.
Like Al said, Japan had "Rise" bootlegged on DVD back in August.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:34 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"



The England DVD is region 2 so thats why as youknow an announcement can be made. America and Japan are region 1 so I have a feeling Rory is correct. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> That has nothing to do with it. Fox has a theatrical division for Japan and a video division for the DVD. They just announced the U.K. DVD. They can walk and chew gum at the same time. We'll probably get the announcement any minute. "Rise" opens in China Oct. 28.
>
>
> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:51 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
>
>
> Fox's "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" launched in Japan, where the pic scored almost 80% of its total weekend take. The Japanese B.O. contributed $6.2 million to "Apes," which grossed $7.8 million this weekend for an overseas cume of $245.4 million. Fox said it expects "Apes" to generate strong results in Japan through Monday, a public holiday in that country.
>
>
> You see, this is why I've said don't expect any Blu-ray/DVD announcement right now -- Fox has Japan on its mind right now. I think I'll be at least another two weeks before we hear anything.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James <JamesA1102@...>
> To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 6:48 am
> Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
>
> FYI
>
> Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
> UK DVD/Blu-Ray Release Date forRise Of The Planet Of The Apes; New Cover Art ...
> Comic Book Movie
> Featuring a familiar image (though not identical), check out the new UK cover art for Rupert Wyatt's critically-acclaimed Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, as well as when the film hits stores in the UK... Will Rodman (James Franco), currently residing ...
> See all stories on this topic »
> 'Real Steel' shows BO mettle
> Variety
> Fox's "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" launched in Japan, where the pic scored almost 80% of its total weekend take. The Japanese BO contributed $6.2 million to "Apes," which grossed $7.8 million this weekend for an overseas cume of $245.4 million. ...
> See all stories on this topic »
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Fox just announced some movies for 2012 and 2013. The biggie is the latest "Die Hard". That would seem a definite summer movie but in fact they've slotted it for Valentine's Day.
http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/fox-dates-die-hard-sequel-for-february-14-2013/
As near as I can tell, Fox hasn't announced any movies for Summer 2013 yet. I still say "Rise of the POTA 2" would be perfect, seeing as how it's the 50th anniversary of Boulle's novel and so far the ideas for the sequel sound very Boulleish (apes walking around in modern buildings and "borrowing" all the human toys that have been abandoned). Some might feel 2013 is too soon and that's rushing it but such is the modern turnaround to exploit top movies. 2011 flicks that have already signed on to repeat in 2013 include "Fast 6", Thor and our old friends the Smurfs.
If "Rise 2" was slotted for 2013 it would already be going up against "Iron Man 3", "Superman" and Spielberg's Terminator wannabe "Robopocalypse". Franco's $200 million "Wizard of Oz" movie hits a couple months earlier in March.
http://www.movieinsider.com/movies/-/2013/
"Die Hard" is set to shoot in January to make Feb. 2013. The 50th anniversary of POTA seems like a good promotional hook for the "Rise" sequel so if Fox has eyes for 2013 I suspect there will be an announcement soon (and blu ray announcement for "Rise" would be nice too while they're at it).

NO, Im right, no your right, we sound like a bunch of monkeys..Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> It has nothing to do with it. "Fast 5" just opened in Japan and it's already on blu-ray.
> Like Al said, Japan had "Rise" bootlegged on DVD back in August.
>
>
> From: JohnM conquest-idor
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:34 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
>
> The England DVD is region 2 so thats why as youknow an announcement can be made. America and Japan are region 1 so I have a feeling Rory is correct. John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > That has nothing to do with it. Fox has a theatrical division for Japan and a video division for the DVD. They just announced the U.K. DVD. They can walk and chew gum at the same time. We'll probably get the announcement any minute. "Rise" opens in China Oct. 28.
> >
> >
> > From: Haristas@
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:51 AM
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Fox's "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" launched in Japan, where the pic scored almost 80% of its total weekend take. The Japanese B.O. contributed $6.2 million to "Apes," which grossed $7.8 million this weekend for an overseas cume of $245.4 million. Fox said it expects "Apes" to generate strong results in Japan through Monday, a public holiday in that country.
> >
> >
> > You see, this is why I've said don't expect any Blu-ray/DVD announcement right now -- Fox has Japan on its mind right now. I think I'll be at least another two weeks before we hear anything.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James <JamesA1102@>
> > To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 6:48 am
> > Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
> >
> >
> >
> > FYI
> >
> > Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
> >
> >
> > UK DVD/Blu-Ray Release Date forRise Of The Planet Of The Apes; New Cover Art ...
> > Comic Book Movie
> > Featuring a familiar image (though not identical), check out the new UK cover art for Rupert Wyatt's critically-acclaimed Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, as well as when the film hits stores in the UK... Will Rodman (James Franco), currently residing ...
> > See all stories on this topic »
> > 'Real Steel' shows BO mettle
> > Variety
> > Fox's "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" launched in Japan, where the pic scored almost 80% of its total weekend take. The Japanese BO contributed $6.2 million to "Apes," which grossed $7.8 million this weekend for an overseas cume of $245.4 million. ...
> > See all stories on this topic »
> >
>

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http://sciencefiction.com/2011/10/12/ten-worst-sci-fi-films-of-all-time/

I already posted disagreeing about at least 3 of the sequels...'Battle' was a bit weak, but the first 3 certainly shouldn't be on a worst list. Now, 2001, that's another matter LOL.

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Do we know if Caesar was going to be capable of speech anyway, or was it his release of the virus gas in the cages that boosted him on to the 'next level'? He didn't speak beforehand, and the other Apes don't speak after (including the very intelligent Maurice), so I'm wondering did the mass dosing also give Caesar a boost? John, Scrolls.

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If they announce it this month you're WRONG (WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!) because you're saying they won't announce it while it has countries to debut in. And they're not going to release it in 2012 because they want the Christmas sales. I'm RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT!
They'll probably announce it this week.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:00 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"






It has nothing to do with it. "Fast 5" just opened in Japan and it's already on blu-ray.
Like Al said, Japan had "Rise" bootlegged on DVD back in August.




Time will prove me correct. There will be a Blu-ray/DVD release announcement by the end of this month -- if it's to be released in December -- but if not, then we're looking at a January release.

This Saturday is October 15th, so if there's no announcement this week, then I'm already on my way to being correct.

HA! HA!

-- Rory

(And if I'm wrong and there's announcement tomorrow -- fine with me. I can't wait for this Blu-ray. And as for bootlegs -- SHAME ON YOU IF YOU HAVE ONE!)

Since when has no script stopped Hollywood? They were writing the "Rise" script on the set. "X-Men: First Class" went from script to release in a little over 6 months and it turned out fine. We can antici...pate "Rise 3" when it comes out in 2018 for the 50th anniversary of the movie. "Rise 2" in 2013!


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:07 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: What about "Rise 2" in 2013?




Why am I always throwing cold water on Krueger's predictions? I don't know, but seriously...

Don't look for the next APES movie until 2014. It'll take all of next year just to get a script and a director. 2013 will be the year it's shot, and 2014 the year it's released.

And besides, why be in such a hurry for the next APES flick anyway? Isn't it nice to have something to look forward to? Enjoy the antici... PATION!

-- Rory








-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2011 5:37 pm
Subject: [pota] What about "Rise 2" in 2013?



Fox just announced some movies for 2012 and 2013. The biggie is the latest "Die Hard". That would seem a definite summer movie but in fact they've slotted it for Valentine's Day.
http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/fox-dates-die-hard-sequel-for-february-14-2013/
As near as I can tell, Fox hasn't announced any movies for Summer 2013 yet. I still say "Rise of the POTA 2" would be perfect, seeing as how it's the 50th anniversary of Boulle's novel and so far the ideas for the sequel sound very Boulleish (apes walking around in modern buildings and "borrowing" all the human toys that have been abandoned). Some might feel 2013 is too soon and that's rushing it but such is the modern turnaround to exploit top movies. 2011 flicks that have already signed on to repeat in 2013 include "Fast 6", Thor and our old friends the Smurfs.
If "Rise 2" was slotted for 2013 it would already be going up against "Iron Man 3", "Superman" and Spielberg's Terminator wannabe "Robopocalypse". Franco's $200 million "Wizard of Oz" movie hits a couple months earlier in March.
http://www.movieinsider.com/movies/-/2013/
"Die Hard" is set to shoot in January to make Feb. 2013. The 50th anniversary of POTA seems like a good promotional hook for the "Rise" sequel so if Fox has eyes for 2013 I suspect there will be an announcement soon (and blu ray announcement for "Rise" would be nice too while they're at it).

It's suggested Caesar is ahead of the curve because he inherited the effects from his mom. He's a next generation ALZ 112 baby. So the offspring of the "Rise" apes will be smarter.
Maurice is the Virgil, you'll see.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:00 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Caesar's Speech



Do we know if Caesar was going to be capable of speech anyway, or was it his release of the virus gas in the cages that boosted him on to the 'next level'? He didn't speak beforehand, and the other Apes don't speak after (including the very intelligent Maurice), so I'm wondering did the mass dosing also give Caesar a boost? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "knightangel314" <chimel23@...> wrote:

>
> http://sciencefiction.com/2011/10/12/ten-worst-sci-fi-films-of-all-time/
>
> I already posted disagreeing about at least 3 of the sequels...'Battle' was a bit weak, but the first 3 certainly shouldn't be on a worst list. Now, 2001, that's another matter LOL.
>
> Mel
>

Even though Battle is my least favourite of all the Apes films (that includes Burton's), it doesn't deserve to be near that list. Splice is another film on that list that wasn't too bad (on some levels, I thought it was quite good and innovative), and doesn't deserve to be there. Still, the list is all opinion and whatnot, so...


Graham

I get a hold of myself every night. If you think waiting for the blu-ray announcement is making me crazy, you're WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:21 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"






If they announce it this month you're WRONG (WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!) because you're saying they won't announce it while it has countries to debut in. And they're not going to release it in 2012 because they want the Christmas sales. I'm RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT!
They'll probably announce it this week.




Get a hold of yourself, dude! This situation is making you crazy.

So, Caesar has had the benefit of the original treatment his mum, Bright Eyes, had---ie, one initial dose.He can,ultimately,speak, as a result.So, the later release of the ALZ 112, which, from Charles' experience, seems to be fast working, SHOULD mean our troop of revolutionaries are already on the cusp of speech, because one exposure seems to be enough? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> It's suggested Caesar is ahead of the curve because he inherited the effects from his mom. He's a next generation ALZ 112 baby. So the offspring of the "Rise" apes will be smarter.
> Maurice is the Virgil, you'll see.
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:00 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Caesar's Speech
>
>
>
> Do we know if Caesar was going to be capable of speech anyway, or was it his release of the virus gas in the cages that boosted him on to the 'next level'? He didn't speak beforehand, and the other Apes don't speak after (including the very intelligent Maurice), so I'm wondering did the mass dosing also give Caesar a boost? John, Scrolls.
>