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From: William Burge
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: rare planet photo

dear goup, i found a rare planet photo that the scene between nova and taylor is not in the film. its kind of like a outtake. from william burge. ps i cant wait until the restored version of planet comes out.<.html

I think the answer to that would be yes, since the canisters Caeser is using are releasing the agent in aerosol form, and not a liquid.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> ALZ 112 stops working for Charles. So Will develops ALZ 113, which I think he tries to give his dad but is refused. Is that what Caesar doses his troops with (the one that causes the human virus)?
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 2:03 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar's Speech
>
>
>
> So, Caesar has had the benefit of the original treatment his mum, Bright Eyes, had---ie, one initial dose.He can,ultimately,speak, as a result.So, the later release of the ALZ 112, which, from Charles' experience, seems to be fast working, SHOULD mean our troop of revolutionaries are already on the cusp of speech, because one exposure seems to be enough? John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > It's suggested Caesar is ahead of the curve because he inherited the effects from his mom. He's a next generation ALZ 112 baby. So the offspring of the "Rise" apes will be smarter.
> > Maurice is the Virgil, you'll see.
> >
> >
> > From: johnroche49
> > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:00 AM
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] Caesar's Speech
> >
> >
> >
> > Do we know if Caesar was going to be capable of speech anyway, or was it his release of the virus gas in the cages that boosted him on to the 'next level'? He didn't speak beforehand, and the other Apes don't speak after (including the very intelligent Maurice), so I'm wondering did the mass dosing also give Caesar a boost? John, Scrolls.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

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> ALZ 112 stops working for Charles. So Will develops ALZ 113, which I think he tries to give his dad but is refused. Is that what Caesar doses his troops with (the one that causes the human virus)?

Yeah, it's also airborne which could account for the increased intelligence in the zoo apes.

Dave

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Looks like they want Freda Pinto for the Razzies.

Well, not exactly.  They thought Rise would flop.

 

 

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/35411/razziewatch-the-five-biggest-razzie-disappointments-of-2011

 

 

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Am I wrong in thinking that simply because of the WETA involvement it should be easier, given the software already created, to create a stunning Computer Game of RISE? I'm not a games person, but I'd certainly buy a RISE game, especially as, nowadays, these games seem to have their own, dedicated scripts and storylines to ezpand the mythos.'Mythos'??!! Sorry, been watching THOR too much.John, Scrolls.

I think, on re-viewing, it's apparent that Caesar is on the cusp of speaking a couple of times earlier in the movie---when Will leaves after the first visit (ie, after Will threatens to take Caesar out of the sanctuary because he's injured) and also when he scrapes away his drawing of the window.It definitely sounds as though he's starting to speak.So, if the ALZ 113 is a DIFFERENT type of virus (and it worked really quickly on Koba), maybe we don't have enough info yet to predict exactly what effect it will have on the Apes in terms of speech.I've got to say that the scene where the Ape-house inmates at the zoo IMMEDIATELY, without question, join the revolution when the cages are smashed is possibly my favourite scene in the whole movie (closely followed by Rocket banging together the two police helmets in triumph nearer the end!).This film grows and grows with repeat viewing. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > ALZ 112 stops working for Charles. So Will develops ALZ 113, which I think he tries to give his dad but is refused. Is that what Caesar doses his troops with (the one that causes the human virus)?
>
> Yeah, it's also airborne which could account for the increased intelligence in the zoo apes.
>
> Dave
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I doubt it. Doesn't look like they just borrowed the WETA stuff for the "Lord of the Rings" games. Developing a video game takes time. Probably add that to list of things that will ape-pear with the sequel.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:25 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Merchandising?



Am I wrong in thinking that simply because of the WETA involvement it should be easier, given the software already created, to create a stunning Computer Game of RISE? I'm not a games person, but I'd certainly buy a RISE game, especially as, nowadays, these games seem to have their own, dedicated scripts and storylines to ezpand the mythos.'Mythos'??!! Sorry, been watching THOR too much.John, Scrolls.

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
pota group:

Who is you're favorite Caesar?

o Roddy McDowall
o Andy Serkis


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/surveys?id=3069749

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
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That's apples and oranges. But when does the polling end? I want to make sure to check back on the results.

:)

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:14 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
pota group:

Who is you're favorite Caesar?

o Roddy McDowall
o Andy Serkis

To vote, please visit the following web page:
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Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
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Thanks!

Even though I've answered Roddy McDowall -- of course! -- I don't feel this is a good question because the RISE of the POTA's Caesar is not just Andy Serkis, but also a lot of CGI artists. This is also why Serkis won't get an Oscar nomination.

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This week's new foreign numbers are in for "Rise of the POTA". It finally beat a "Matrix" movie (# 3), probably the only "Matrix" movie it will beat. It will never beat "Avatar" but it beat the movie "Avatar" copied, "Dances With Wolves". And it beat Tom Hanks' "Cast Away", the movie that got William Broyles the gig creating POTA2001.
"Rise" is now at $ 430 million worldwide. $ 70 million to go to reach $ 500 mil, with China left to open. It made $12 million this week. Will it do it?

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=riseoftheapes.htm

Yes, I agree they seemed to crib Roddy. There's also a moment where Caesar realizes it's time to go in the group area and he has a bored, "OK. let's go" expression that reminded me of a Roddy moment. I'm sure people will be finding those kinds of things when they have the movie at home. Still more ammo that the director wants to connect it to the originals.
A nomination for Serkis is a long shot but enough of a ruckus has been made and with "Rise" new on DVD around the time of the voting it's possible.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:08 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: New poll for pota






Some might argue that Caesar isn't just Roddy, it's also the makeup artists. Looking at side by side comparisons, it's still Serkis' performance behind the CG. The director compares it to John Hurt playing the Elephant Man under makeup. But I agree it's hard for people to make that leap.





Yes, and Hurt was nominated for THE ELEPHANT MAN, but that was unique and he didn't stand much chance of winning. Since then I can't recall any nomination for an actor wearing heavy prosthetics.

I think the Academy will look at Caesar as more a SFX than an acting thing. Serkis was very good, but a lot of his final expressions came down to the work of the CGI artists, especially with the eyes, and I was looking at some of CONQUEST yesterday on HBO and those artists must have studied McDowall's expressions in the APES movies because there are several "Roddy looks" in the Caesar of RISE.

Remember on the bridge near the end of RISE where Franco yells out "Caesar!" and Caesar turns his head and looks at him? The expression on Ceasar's face and in his eyes was pure McDowall.

-- Rory

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>>In all my writing in the previous post you also asked about the

Lawgiver scene. That scene had audio delays and volume problems for years and was finnaly fixed-sortof- about a couple of DVD and the Bluray version ago. It still(It sounds like they went back to the Magnetic video audio tape and enhanced it for todays sound) has the same mixing problems of volume and quality of sound but its passable. The effects and or dialouge have abrupt editing and bad fades like the Ursus speech. If you listen closely just before he says "The Only good..." theirs a hard sound splice interjected at that point like a hard erase was made and the tape head just hit the tape. I have a hard time explaining this because I could sit for hours showing where all the problems are with Beneath, some Conquest, alot of POTA68, but Escape and Battle are 99 percent right so Ill forget them now. <<<.html

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>>I know ive been beating a dead Ape uh horse for so long but the

versions that are shown on HBO/MAX ,and according to people at Fox, they(HBO) do their own mastering(that was years ago, I dont think they do their own mastering anymore but their are differences in sound so somebody is doing the mastering better)and are the correct ones in sound balance etc,etc. Just listen to the sound differnces of Beneath from 1977-2008. Many different sources and quality of work.
Other than just sounding right, I compared them(back when we last talked about this about a year and a half ago) to my Movie drive- in hard wired sound recorded at a Go-Apes festival in 1974 and the CBS premieres in 73-74, the sound balances are right and ofcourse no CD soundtrack audio is used as is in the Blurays and DVDs of the last 10 -15 years and some broadcasts from Encore in 1992 and other broadcasts. The music sound is perfect on the isolated tracks (Bluray)on the sequels. The sound effects are a mishmash of good and bad sound leads from everywhere and the dialouge sound in general is correct. The problem is the person who is doing the MIXING. The Apes are slowely getting better soundwise so in about 5-10 years it should be perfect-lol. The Apes series deserve (not just POTA68) a perfect restoration as the first A-movie sci-fi series of the modern era and I feel that Fox will do it eventually if the Rise trilogy go's on making the big bucks. <<<.html

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>>Thats where Bart Pierce told me they were after years of nagging.

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Chris its nice to know that you know your apes like myself. The sound of the apes were always problematic. The Magnetic video stunk but were correct Mono mixes however bad the hum and distortion. The problems seem to happen when the Laserdiscs were announced and the worst multi generation, atleast 4 down from original were used and to make matters worse tried to be made into surround stereo. Chace surround, who everyone seemed to love, got bad elements and made them badder. POTA68 was distorted, Beneath had sound missing and in the wrong spots and low volume, Escape sounded like a blanket was thrown over the sound, and Conquest the last laser from CBS/FOX was distorted from the first crescendo to the end of the film. These are just sound problems, we all know the video.
After many complaints Fox sort of tried to fix things and weather anybody wants to belive it or not with a little exception, the Apes films are at their best-not THE best mind you that they should be- only since the Blurays, very bad, it took 35 years of video to get the films at a B- score in my opinion. To repeat myself the elements are their but stupidity and laziness are preventing full no nonsense restoration.
Play the Conquest theme from the bluray and bounce back and forth from the theme used on the film and the isolated score. They got it backwards. Techs have no idea what music is supposed to sound like. Beneath took the same time to get all the effects back in place and sound stems are still missing. It shows that the sound of the apes were multi tracked and could have been sensational but the cheaper route was taken. I have so many memmories going back to 1968 but seeing Conquest at the Embassy at 46th st.NYNY on opening day and seeing that big slightly curved screens colorfull bright picture and wonderfull dynamic sound was a memmory that gave awe to an impressionable 12/13 year old. Id like to see that again esp. Audio wise. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@... wrote:
>
> I recorded BENEATH yesterday afternoon while I was out and spot checked
> all the problem scenes once I got in. Just like on the Blu-ray, all the
> problems I had told Fox about had been corrected (most especially the
> scene with Brent & Nova touching the ladder, in the tunnel etc) although
> I can't comment on the sound balancing etc that you mentioned. The only
> thing I still notice missing is a sound effect that I hear when I watch
> the Magnetic video version of BENEATH. When Brent and Nova first enter
> the cave where they eventually see the tunnel, there's a few bits of
> louder buzzing/humming (almost a flutter like you'd hear with a mouth
> harp). I had wondered if that was the product of a 30+ year old VHS, but
> as far as my ears can tell it isn't. It's too clean a sound to be
> magnetic tape degradation, plus if that were the case there'd be other
> problems as well. I'll have to dig out all my old 4:30 Movie audio
> recordings to see if it's there as well, but take a listen to your Drive
> In and CBS premier broadcast recordings and let me know if you hear what
> I'm describing.
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> >>I know ive been beating a dead Ape uh horse for so long but the
> versions that are shown on HBO/MAX ,and according to people at Fox,
> they(HBO) do their own mastering(that was years ago, I dont think they do
> their own mastering anymore but their are differences in sound so
> somebody is doing the mastering better)and are the correct ones in sound
> balance etc,etc. Just listen to the sound differnces of Beneath from
> 1977-2008. Many different sources and quality of work.
> Other than just sounding right, I compared them(back when we last talked
> about this about a year and a half ago) to my Movie drive- in hard wired
> sound recorded at a Go-Apes festival in 1974 and the CBS premieres in
> 73-74, the sound balances are right and ofcourse no CD soundtrack audio
> is used as is in the Blurays and DVDs of the last 10 -15 years and some
> broadcasts from Encore in 1992 and other broadcasts. The music sound is
> perfect on the isolated tracks (Bluray)on the sequels. The sound effects
> are a mishmash of good and bad sound leads from everywhere and the
> dialouge sound in general is correct. The problem is the person who is
> doing the MIXING. The Apes are slowely getting better soundwise so in
> about 5-10 years it should be perfect-lol. The Apes series deserve (not
> just POTA68) a perfect restoration as the first A-movie sci-fi series of
> the modern era and I feel that Fox will do it eventually if the Rise
> trilogy go's on making the big bucks. <<
>

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I would have to say it's harder without the makeup. Actors often find their

character in the make or a prop or piece of wardrobe.  Kim had to do some

overdubs, and takes where she's just playing for the other actors to work off

of. And she tied to do it without the makeup and it wasn't working for her.

She couldn't find the character. So even when she was done with the on

screen stuff, she'd ask they leave some of the makeup on for her. Until

she was done for the day, even if it was just overdubbing dialog. She

said have the makeup on made a difference in the sound of her voice.

 

 

In a message dated 10/16/2011 1:46:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

  Some might argue that Caesar isn't just Roddy, it's also the makeup artists. Looking at side by side comparisons, it's still Serkis' performance behind the CG. The director compares it to John Hurt playing the Elephant Man under makeup. But I agree it's hard for people to make that leap.

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It may not beat POTA2K1 domestically.

It's still 25 million short. But it was 7 million

cheaper to make. Hopefully that will be taken

into account. And though it hasn't beaten the

all time domestic, at 158 vs 144, it did beat

the all time worldwide, 131 to 177. Well done!

 

 

In a message dated 10/16/2011 3:51:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

 

This week's new foreign numbers are in for "Rise of the POTA". It finally beat a "Matrix" movie (# 3), probably the only "Matrix" movie it will beat. It will never beat "Avatar" but it beat the movie "Avatar" copied, "Dances With Wolves". And it beat Tom Hanks' "Cast Away", the movie that got William Broyles the gig creating POTA2001.
"Rise" is now at $ 430 million worldwide. $ 70 million to go to reach $ 500 mil, with China left to open. It made $12 million this week. Will it do it?

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=riseoftheapes.htm

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If a sequel involves more evolved, 'humanised',Apes, is there ANY chance that some prosthetics might be used, or will it all be CGI still? In other words, have we seen the passing of a make-up era with the success of RISE? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> No, it'll be early December. They aren't going to miss out on Christmas sales. That way Academy voters can watch it with their grand kids at Christmas.
> "Aren't you going to vote for "Rise of the POTA" for Best Picture, Grandma?"
> "Of course I will, Melissa. What did Santa bring you besides "Rise" on blu ray?"
>
>
> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:49 PM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: New poll for pota
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, I agree they seemed to crib Roddy. There's also a moment where Caesar realizes it's time to go in the group area and he has a bored, "OK. let's go" expression that reminded me of a Roddy moment. I'm sure people will be finding those kinds of things when they have the movie at home. Still more ammo that the director wants to connect it to the originals.
> A nomination for Serkis is a long shot but enough of a ruckus has been made and with "Rise" new on DVD around the time of the voting it's possible.
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, it might not be until January that RISE comes to DVD/Blu-ray (Damn you all to hell, greedy Fox!). I'm sure you agree.... now.
>

Thats what I feel. I dont mind either way but as the Apes get more humanized the makeup factor can easily come back without a problem and the special effects makeup can be CGI. They might stay CGI because it caused such a ruckus but especially in (hopefully) even later sequels makeup would be the easiest with alittle CGI thrown in for some mouth or physical effects. Take Care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> If a sequel involves more evolved, 'humanised',Apes, is there ANY chance that some prosthetics might be used, or will it all be CGI still? In other words, have we seen the passing of a make-up era with the success of RISE? John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > No, it'll be early December. They aren't going to miss out on Christmas sales. That way Academy voters can watch it with their grand kids at Christmas.
> > "Aren't you going to vote for "Rise of the POTA" for Best Picture, Grandma?"
> > "Of course I will, Melissa. What did Santa bring you besides "Rise" on blu ray?"
> >
> >
> > From: Haristas@
> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:49 PM
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] Re: New poll for pota
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I agree they seemed to crib Roddy. There's also a moment where Caesar realizes it's time to go in the group area and he has a bored, "OK. let's go" expression that reminded me of a Roddy moment. I'm sure people will be finding those kinds of things when they have the movie at home. Still more ammo that the director wants to connect it to the originals.
> > A nomination for Serkis is a long shot but enough of a ruckus has been made and with "Rise" new on DVD around the time of the voting it's possible.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah, it might not be until January that RISE comes to DVD/Blu-ray (Damn you all to hell, greedy Fox!). I'm sure you agree.... now.
> >
>

Production has ceased on film cameras. Digital is the future. For the record, POTA was shot on film.
Goodbye, film. And thank you.

http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/film-fading-to-black

Makeup's done. They can make it look exactly like the Chambers makeup if they want and the actors don't have to wear the stuff.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:03 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: New poll for pota




Thats what I feel. I dont mind either way but as the Apes get more humanized the makeup factor can easily come back without a problem and the special effects makeup can be CGI. They might stay CGI because it caused such a ruckus but especially in (hopefully) even later sequels makeup would be the easiest with alittle CGI thrown in for some mouth or physical effects. Take Care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> If a sequel involves more evolved, 'humanised',Apes, is there ANY chance that some prosthetics might be used, or will it all be CGI still? In other words, have we seen the passing of a make-up era with the success of RISE? John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > No, it'll be early December. They aren't going to miss out on Christmas sales. That way Academy voters can watch it with their grand kids at Christmas.
> > "Aren't you going to vote for "Rise of the POTA" for Best Picture, Grandma?"
> > "Of course I will, Melissa. What did Santa bring you besides "Rise" on blu ray?"
> >
> >
> > From: Haristas@
> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:49 PM
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] Re: New poll for pota
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I agree they seemed to crib Roddy. There's also a moment where Caesar realizes it's time to go in the group area and he has a bored, "OK. let's go" expression that reminded me of a Roddy moment. I'm sure people will be finding those kinds of things when they have the movie at home. Still more ammo that the director wants to connect it to the originals.
> > A nomination for Serkis is a long shot but enough of a ruckus has been made and with "Rise" new on DVD around the time of the voting it's possible.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah, it might not be until January that RISE comes to DVD/Blu-ray (Damn you all to hell, greedy Fox!). I'm sure you agree.... now.
> >
>

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It's getting better, but for any major production

you can't beat film & tape.  Is digital easier?

In some ways.  But it can also be a huge pain.

Any media has it's strengths and weaknesses.

But digital still has a way to go before it competes.

It wins like VHS wins over beta.  It's cheaper.

 

 

In a message dated 10/17/2011 11:23:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

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I think it's a pity, but maybe I'm just a dinosaur.I genuinely feel that Andy Serkis, in modern prosthetics, could give us a performance with that extra 5%---even if they had to tidy it up around the edges with some CGI correction.I've always felt the TV Series gorillas were the ultimate expression of just how cool make-up could look and, even though CGI will, doubtless, do a bang up job for RISE 2,this old fart still yearns for some actual latex and glue---I actually feel that the discomfort of putting that stuff on informed and coloured some of the performances.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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They learned from Rise that they can tweak a performance.

Soon they'll be talking props.  They won't even need the actor

after the data is entered in.  Looks at those Vocaliod performances.

They can do some things human singers can't.  And if the singers

dies, or loses their voice...doesn't matter.  The show must go on!

 

 

In a message dated 10/17/2011 10:19:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

They might used actors in masks for background apes at a far distance, but I think prosthetics and Fox APES movies are a thing of the past.  I think one of the big things Fox learned from POTA2001 was that actors in ape makeup, no matter how good it is, is always something akin to Kabuki Theatre and can too easily slid into camp.

 

-- Rory

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Like most things digital...

It's quicker and cheaper.

Not better.  Though we

aren't seeing teeth! I still

saw flaws. Game Look!

 

In a message dated 10/17/2011 7:41:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnroche49@... writes:

In other words, have we seen the passing of a make-up era with the success of RISE? John, Scrolls.

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Thanks to Al for the heads up.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bring-caesar-home-on-blu-ray-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-2011-10-18

Well, theirs the announcement. I only wish the deleted scenes were incorperated into the film as a "Directors Cut". International first,why? John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> FYI
>
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> Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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> <http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bring-caesar-home-on-blu-ray-rise-of-the-p
> lanet-of-the-apes-2011-10-18> Bring Caesar Home on Blu-Ray - RISE OF THE
> PLANET OF THE APES
> LOS ANGELES, Oct 18, 2011 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- A single act of both compassion
> and arrogance leads to a battle unlike any other when RISE OF THE PLANET OF
> THE APES makes its worldwide debut on Blu-ray, DVD, and ...
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://news.google.com/news/story%3Fncl%3D
> http://www.minnpost.com/maxsparber/2011/10/17/32442/revisiting_1968_at_the_h
> istory_center%26hl%3Den%26geo%3Dus&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoBjACOAJA5ZPx9ARIAVA
> AWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=_ZFsQ0bKOlY&usg=AFQjCNGCD8a41PP4R83Do-9fbwO3SMkMyw> See all
> stories on this topic >
>
>
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.minnpost.com/maxsparber/2011/10
> /17/32442/revisiting_1968_at_the_history_center&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATACOA
> JA5ZPx9ARIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=_ZFsQ0bKOlY&usg=AFQjCNHTJkdNqwXL0AhjopSe2kxOT4
> qgxw> Revisiting 1968 at the History Center
> MinnPost.com (blog)
> Both "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Planet of the Apes" opened in theaters.
> Oh, and "Hair" opened on Broadway. Pretty much any single one might have
> your typical American nowadays seated at the side of the road, head buried
> in hands, shaking and sobbing. ...
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://news.google.com/news/story%3Fncl%3D
> http://www.minnpost.com/maxsparber/2011/10/17/32442/revisiting_1968_at_the_h
> istory_center%26hl%3Den%26geo%3Dus&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoBjACOAJA5ZPx9ARIAVA
> AWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=_ZFsQ0bKOlY&usg=AFQjCNGCD8a41PP4R83Do-9fbwO3SMkMyw> See all
> stories on this topic >
>

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It's coming out on DVD but with only a couple extras. Fox doesn't take much stock in DVD any more.


From: john surphlis
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:49 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"




i wonder will that come out as a combo pack, dvd and blu-ray, i don't have blu-ray, my small 15" lcd tv dosn't come with a hdmi contector's, my next new t.v.will be a 46" hdtv,it's bigger then the last one, but my entertment area is still very small, i'am livein a studio apt. about 500 sq feet. won't they still use film for future storage. for the next movie i hope they come out wirh colloctor toys. thanks john



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: johnmermigas@...
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:18:34 +0000
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"


Well, theirs the announcement. I only wish the deleted scenes were incorperated into the film as a "Directors Cut". International first,why? John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> FYI
>
>
>
>
>
> Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bring-caesar-home-on-blu-ray-rise-of-the-p
> lanet-of-the-apes-2011-10-18> Bring Caesar Home on Blu-Ray - RISE OF THE
> PLANET OF THE APES
> LOS ANGELES, Oct 18, 2011 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- A single act of both compassion
> and arrogance leads to a battle unlike any other when RISE OF THE PLANET OF
> THE APES makes its worldwide debut on Blu-ray, DVD, and ...
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://news.google.com/news/story%3Fncl%3D
> http://www.minnpost.com/maxsparber/2011/10/17/32442/revisiting_1968_at_the_h
> istory_center%26hl%3Den%26geo%3Dus&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoBjACOAJA5ZPx9ARIAVA
> AWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=_ZFsQ0bKOlY&usg=AFQjCNGCD8a41PP4R83Do-9fbwO3SMkMyw> See all
> stories on this topic >
>
>
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.minnpost.com/maxsparber/2011/10
> /17/32442/revisiting_1968_at_the_history_center&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATACOA
> JA5ZPx9ARIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=_ZFsQ0bKOlY&usg=AFQjCNHTJkdNqwXL0AhjopSe2kxOT4
> qgxw> Revisiting 1968 at the History Center
> MinnPost.com (blog)
> Both "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Planet of the Apes" opened in theaters.
> Oh, and "Hair" opened on Broadway. Pretty much any single one might have
> your typical American nowadays seated at the side of the road, head buried
> in hands, shaking and sobbing. ...
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://news.google.com/news/story%3Fncl%3D
> http://www.minnpost.com/maxsparber/2011/10/17/32442/revisiting_1968_at_the_h
> istory_center%26hl%3Den%26geo%3Dus&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoBjACOAJA5ZPx9ARIAVA
> AWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=_ZFsQ0bKOlY&usg=AFQjCNGCD8a41PP4R83Do-9fbwO3SMkMyw> See all
> stories on this topic >
>

Evolution isn't necessarily a good thing. Sounds like orangs were "intelligent", and "genetically diverse" 15 million years ago. I'm sure the "orangutan" extra on "Rise" will explain everything.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:19 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Orangutan facts




Recently read this on the web. Didn't know it before.

Orangutans are far more genetically diverse than thought, a finding that could help their survival, say scientists delivering their full DNA analysis of the critically endangered ape.

The study, published January 27 in the science journal Nature, also reveals that the orangutan -- 'the man of the forest' -- has hardly evolved over the past 15 million years, in sharp contrast to Homo sapiens and his closest cousin, the chimpanzee. Once widely distributed across Southeast Asia, only two populations of the intelligent, tree dwelling ape remain in the wild in Borneo and Sumatra islands of Indonesia.

Haven't evolved in 15 million years?!!!

Sounds like an evolutionary dead end to me.

I hope that's the cover art. That's the best looking Caesar yet.

http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/2011/10/18/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-hits-blu-ray-dvd-december-13th/

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Apparently any given community of chimps is more genetically diverse than a settled human population--we're really quite inbred.And if the Orangs are settled and comfortable, why try to fix what aint broke? They're settled in their ways, happy not to move on and in an evolutionary rut.In film and television it's called 'Star Trek Syndrome'. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Evolution isn't necessarily a good thing. Sounds like orangs were "intelligent", and "genetically diverse" 15 million years ago. I'm sure the "orangutan" extra on "Rise" will explain everything.
>
>
> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:19 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Orangutan facts
>
>
>
>
> Recently read this on the web. Didn't know it before.
>
> Orangutans are far more genetically diverse than thought, a finding that could help their survival, say scientists delivering their full DNA analysis of the critically endangered ape.
>
> The study, published January 27 in the science journal Nature, also reveals that the orangutan -- 'the man of the forest' -- has hardly evolved over the past 15 million years, in sharp contrast to Homo sapiens and his closest cousin, the chimpanzee. Once widely distributed across Southeast Asia, only two populations of the intelligent, tree dwelling ape remain in the wild in Borneo and Sumatra islands of Indonesia.
>
> Haven't evolved in 15 million years?!!!
>
> Sounds like an evolutionary dead end to me.
>

Don't see any 'Caesar gets the hots for Cornelia' deleted scenes listed.It's in one of the trailers.I want my Ape Love Story.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> FYI
>
>
>
>
>
> Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bring-caesar-home-on-blu-ray-rise-of-the-p
> lanet-of-the-apes-2011-10-18> Bring Caesar Home on Blu-Ray - RISE OF THE
> PLANET OF THE APES
> LOS ANGELES, Oct 18, 2011 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- A single act of both compassion
> and arrogance leads to a battle unlike any other when RISE OF THE PLANET OF
> THE APES makes its worldwide debut on Blu-ray, DVD, and ...
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://news.google.com/news/story%3Fncl%3D
> http://www.minnpost.com/maxsparber/2011/10/17/32442/revisiting_1968_at_the_h
> istory_center%26hl%3Den%26geo%3Dus&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoBjACOAJA5ZPx9ARIAVA
> AWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=_ZFsQ0bKOlY&usg=AFQjCNGCD8a41PP4R83Do-9fbwO3SMkMyw> See all
> stories on this topic >
>
>
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.minnpost.com/maxsparber/2011/10
> /17/32442/revisiting_1968_at_the_history_center&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATACOA
> JA5ZPx9ARIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=_ZFsQ0bKOlY&usg=AFQjCNHTJkdNqwXL0AhjopSe2kxOT4
> qgxw> Revisiting 1968 at the History Center
> MinnPost.com (blog)
> Both "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Planet of the Apes" opened in theaters.
> Oh, and "Hair" opened on Broadway. Pretty much any single one might have
> your typical American nowadays seated at the side of the road, head buried
> in hands, shaking and sobbing. ...
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://news.google.com/news/story%3Fncl%3D
> http://www.minnpost.com/maxsparber/2011/10/17/32442/revisiting_1968_at_the_h
> istory_center%26hl%3Den%26geo%3Dus&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoBjACOAJA5ZPx9ARIAVA
> AWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=_ZFsQ0bKOlY&usg=AFQjCNGCD8a41PP4R83Do-9fbwO3SMkMyw> See all
> stories on this topic >
>

just a quick post to say hi , my name is andy im in the uk and ive been an ape fan for over 40 years ..... why didnt i find this group sooner ...

The poll ends on Sunday.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> That's apples and oranges. But when does the polling end? I want to make
> sure to check back on the results.
>
> :)
>
>

Hi Andy! Welcome to the group. Tell us about yourself. Where are you from? How did you first become a POTA fan? What's your favorite film? Did you like Rise?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" <andrewredman06@...> wrote:
>
> just a quick post to say hi , my name is andy im in the uk and ive been an ape fan for over 40 years ..... why didnt i find this group sooner ...
>

You're right, it is.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I hope that's the cover art. That's the best looking Caesar yet.
>
> http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/2011/10/18/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-hits-blu-ray-dvd-december-13th/
>

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I stumbled onto this place that is archiving interviews with TV people.
The Archive section. What the devil do you want in there?

http://emmytvlegends.org/interviews/people/jerry-goldsmith

http://emmytvlegends.org/interviews/people/eric-braeden

http://emmytvlegends.org/interviews/people/ricardo-montalban

According to thedigitalbits that's the cover. If they mean the slipcover and the Caesar art with the raised fist and the bridge in the background was the cover of the actual case, I'd be a happy camper. And some people consider POTA camp, so there you have it.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:27 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise" blu-ray cover



I like the UK covers better, but I can't say I've really liked any of the advertising art for this movie. I haven't even bothered getting a poster.




-----Original Message-----
From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 7:05 am
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise" blu-ray cover



You're right, it is.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I hope that's the cover art. That's the best looking Caesar yet.
>
> http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/2011/10/18/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-hits-blu-ray-dvd-december-13th/
>

I agree. The promotional, or lack of, material wasnt very attractive and in fact the raised fist I thought was for lack of a better word innapropriate. With all the odds against this film its amazing that its the film it is. Like the saying goes if its not on the paper it wont be on the screen. Its a true miracle and im very proud. Being old school I would of liked good promo material, perhaps the sequels. Most of the personell at Fox wasnt even born when posters and lobby cards ruled the roost.
The story in a way did not lend itself to much grandiosity in photos or posters but a logical sequel probably will. Rise seems more like Escape when it comes to promotional ideas, even with the action its more a love story with some action than the reverse. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I like the UK covers better, but I can't say I've really liked any of the advertising art for this movie. I haven't even bothered getting a poster.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 7:05 am
> Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise" blu-ray cover
>
>
>
>
>
> You're right, it is.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > I hope that's the cover art. That's the best looking Caesar yet.
> >
> > http://www.hollywoodoutbreak.com/2011/10/18/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-hits-blu-ray-dvd-december-13th/
> >
>

Nothing new, the Digital Bits posted the news. John M.

im andy im from the north of england , uk , i first saw the posters going up for planet of the apes at the cinema back in 1968 but being only 7 i was too young to go see it but it was engraved upon my mind. my first ape film at the cinema was escape which strangely being shown alomgside planet was shown first . these two are my favourite two ape films planet being the first . i am not a lover of the burton film as my facebook posts will testify . i was happy when rise came along because it didnt dissapoint and it has fuelled the ape franchise again thanks to jessica for helping this ol gorilla to find this group

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Andy, if you can let me have your postal address, new UK members of the group sometimes qualify for a special, free, Apes gift. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" <andrewredman06@...> wrote:
>
> im andy im from the north of england , uk , i first saw the posters going up for planet of the apes at the cinema back in 1968 but being only 7 i was too young to go see it but it was engraved upon my mind. my first ape film at the cinema was escape which strangely being shown alomgside planet was shown first . these two are my favourite two ape films planet being the first . i am not a lover of the burton film as my facebook posts will testify . i was happy when rise came along because it didnt dissapoint and it has fuelled the ape franchise again thanks to jessica for helping this ol gorilla to find this group
>

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That's why they have the video plug in the camera now

instead of waiting for the dailies.  They wouldn't let us

use it in school.  Said it slows production down, what with

actors wanting to see their performance. Probably a good idea.

 

 

In a message dated 10/18/2011 12:51:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

Film (35mm and above) has better image quality, but it's just so 19th Century slow.  Too bad, but that's the way it is.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" <andrewredman06@...> wrote:

>
> im andy im from the north of england , uk , i first saw the posters going up for planet of the apes at the cinema back in 1968 but being only 7 i was too young to go see it but it was engraved upon my mind. my first ape film at the cinema was escape which strangely being shown alomgside planet was shown first . these two are my favourite two ape films planet being the first . i am not a lover of the burton film as my facebook posts will testify . i was happy when rise came along because it didnt dissapoint and it has fuelled the ape franchise again thanks to jessica for helping this ol gorilla to find this group
>

if i remember right it was an age thing at the cinema back then there was no pg rating , i think it was u a and x rated , i still remember being impressed with the cool posters they put up

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My father was taking me to Charles Bronson and Clint Eastwood films at that time and earlier. If it wasnt total porn my parentes did not have a problem with movies. Asyou might know the rating system in America did not start, I think, until November 68 so films were either Yes/No for a certain age group. Watching POTA in 68 and seeing people appluading was a wonderfull memory. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" <andrewredman06@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" <andrewredman06@> wrote:
> >
> > im andy im from the north of england , uk , i first saw the posters going up for planet of the apes at the cinema back in 1968 but being only 7 i was too young to go see it but it was engraved upon my mind. my first ape film at the cinema was escape which strangely being shown alomgside planet was shown first . these two are my favourite two ape films planet being the first . i am not a lover of the burton film as my facebook posts will testify . i was happy when rise came along because it didnt dissapoint and it has fuelled the ape franchise again thanks to jessica for helping this ol gorilla to find this group
> >
> if i remember right it was an age thing at the cinema back then there was no pg rating , i think it was u a and x rated , i still remember being impressed with the cool posters they put up
>

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From: William Burge
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:42 AM
Subject: apes resin busts

dear group, i found some neat apes resin busts from apeamania.com and another ad for different busts from 2002. enjoy from william burge<.html

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Really?  In the US it was rated G.

Which still amazes me to this day.

 

 

In a message dated 10/20/2011 6:32:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, andrewredman06@... writes:

if i remember right it was an age thing at the cinema back then there was no pg rating , i think it was u a and x rated

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At what point would I be justified in worrying about the lack of a formal announcement of a sequel to RISE? I'm already worried---THOR and X-Men are already getting sequel coverage but RISE is going very quiet.Somebody fan my fevered brow and reassure me.PLEASE!!!!!John, Scrolls.

TGIF! This week's installment of THE MENDEZ DYNASTY is now online.

To read the new MENDEZ biography, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Internal Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• Marvel Archive

- Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies. Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius. Ape City Chronicles - The history of Ape City's first 75 years, written by Virgil. The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot. The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members. The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics. The Photos Section - POTA pics contributed by members.

<http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/24266383/Planet-Of-The-Apes-Evolution-Collection-1-7-Box-Set/Product.html">

Dave

The standard of The Mendez Dynasty has been consistently high from day one of the chronicle.Can't help wishing there could be an audio version of this! Much enjoyed.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> TGIF! This week's installment of THE MENDEZ DYNASTY is now online.
>
> To read the new MENDEZ biography, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home
> page or use this link:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm> .
>
> Have a great weekend everyone!
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
> * The Internal Website
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm> - Original POTA
> One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and
> much, much more. * <http://tinyurl.com/2uy7v7c> Marvel Archive
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm>
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm> - Online
> archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies. *
> Lessons from the Lawgiver
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm> – Words
> of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. * Cornelius' Journal
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm> - The Memoirs
> of Dr. Cornelius. * Ape City Chronicles
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm> - The history
> of Ape City's first 75 years, written by Virgil. * The Illustrated
> Monkey Planet <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MPC.htm>
> - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. *
> POTA Locations
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm> -
> The places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm> -
> Works of POTA Art by our members. * The Database Section
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> ranging from Characters to Comics. * The Photos Section
> <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos> - POTA pics
> contributed by members.
>

Thanks again for keeping friday something to look fwd to as well as all the work that goes into these!
;-)

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:49 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

TGIF! This week's installment of THE MENDEZ DYNASTY is now online.

To read the new MENDEZ biography, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Internal Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• Marvel Archive

- Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies. Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius. Ape City Chronicles - The history of Ape City's first 75 years, written by Virgil. The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot. The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members. The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics. The Photos Section - POTA pics contributed by members.

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From: johnroche49
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 2:36 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Sequel Jitters



At what point would I be justified in worrying about the lack of a formal announcement of a sequel to RISE? I'm already worried---THOR and X-Men are already getting sequel coverage but RISE is going very quiet.Somebody fan my fevered brow and reassure me.PLEASE!!!!!John, Scrolls.

It took them 10 years to do POTA2001 "right".


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:15 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Sequel Jitters






Marvel comic movies are a machine. "X-Men" movies are a machine. Fox hasn't built the POTA machine yet.




Yeah, we've been through the "sequel-every-summer" phase in POTAdom and look what it got us, BATTLE and a failed TV show.

I say, take your time and do it right.

In my opinion, the 'sequel every summer' approach gave us four of the greatest films ever made followed by the greatest tv series ever made.I'm not going to count on RISE 2 until it's actually announced and scheduled.Burton's Apes was followed by lots of sequel talk and it then went quiet (and, had they continued from that scene on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, it COULD have been a great sequel!).In these financially depressed times, with studios living on a knife edge, I'm still a bit nervous.Maybe I'm just taumatised from past Apes cancellations and delays.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> It took them 10 years to do POTA2001 "right".
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> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:15 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Sequel Jitters
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> Marvel comic movies are a machine. "X-Men" movies are a machine. Fox hasn't built the POTA machine yet.
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> Yeah, we've been through the "sequel-every-summer" phase in POTAdom and look what it got us, BATTLE and a failed TV show.
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> I say, take your time and do it right.
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I'd be interested to know if folk here are buying the Star Wars blu ray set.A few years ago, this would have been an automatic for me but, this time, I really can't be bothered.And I loved Star Wars---the original novelisation was my reading book in primary school and I was an ealy member of the fan club (anyone else remember 'Bantha Tracks'?).But the Star Wars prequels have steadily strangled my love of Star Wars and, having seen so many 'Making Of's, I struggle to suspend disbelief when I've been so indoctrinated in how the special effects were done.Star Wars is pretty much dead to me now.And yet, Burton's Apes never, ever damaged my Apes fanaticism.Maybe Apes is my first, true love, whilst Star Wars was a bit of a fling.That works, because then Star Trek would be my mother-in-law.John, Scrolls.

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I agree with your point. Apes to me have to hit hard when the going is good in my view because it doesnt have the fanatical fanbase as other franchises, and thats what makes the Apes better in my view.
I think they just want to have a great idea on what the sequel will be about and have a general outline. Though in my view they started this after the opening weekend. Fox is always skittish with Apes but they must move fast and hard and not be afraid to go "R" rated territory if they must. Make the story Darker this time and give the people something different but the same if you catch my drift. After all it is going to be about War and the effects of science and thats never pretty. Just thowing it out their, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> In my opinion, the 'sequel every summer' approach gave us four of the greatest films ever made followed by the greatest tv series ever made.I'm not going to count on RISE 2 until it's actually announced and scheduled.Burton's Apes was followed by lots of sequel talk and it then went quiet (and, had they continued from that scene on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, it COULD have been a great sequel!).In these financially depressed times, with studios living on a knife edge, I'm still a bit nervous.Maybe I'm just taumatised from past Apes cancellations and delays.John, Scrolls.
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
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> > It took them 10 years to do POTA2001 "right".
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> > From: Haristas@
> > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:15 AM
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] Re: Sequel Jitters
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> > Marvel comic movies are a machine. "X-Men" movies are a machine. Fox hasn't built the POTA machine yet.
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> > Yeah, we've been through the "sequel-every-summer" phase in POTAdom and look what it got us, BATTLE and a failed TV show.
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> > I say, take your time and do it right.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" <andrewredman06@...> wrote:

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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" <andrewredman06@> wrote:
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> > im andy im from the north of england , uk , i first saw the posters going up for planet of the apes at the cinema back in 1968 but being only 7 i was too young to go see it but it was engraved upon my mind. my first ape film at the cinema was escape which strangely being shown alomgside planet was shown first . these two are my favourite two ape films planet being the first . i am not a lover of the burton film as my facebook posts will testify . i was happy when rise came along because it didnt dissapoint and it has fuelled the ape franchise again thanks to jessica for helping this ol gorilla to find this group
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> if i remember right it was an age thing at the cinema back then there was no pg rating , i think it was u a and x rated , i still remember being impressed with the cool posters they put up
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Hi, Andy.

Back then in 1968, there were three ratings: U, A and X. X would have been the only restrictive rating (16 and over), while A would refer to the film being adult in nature, it still allowed for children to watch the film, with some local councils enforcing that children should be accompanied by an adult. U was universal. I believe that PotA was rated A back then, judging from this page on the BBFC's website: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/70aaf39c6f81e04780256dad001b5bec?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=4

Below is the ratings system in place in the UK during 1968.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_British_film_certificates#1951.E2.80.931970

I'm also in the UK (Sussex), and also the first ever Apes film I went to see in the cinema was Escape, too, which was reshown sometime in the mid-seventies (Escape is my second favourite of the series after the original... naturally). Ah, the memories...


Graham

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gort65" <gort65@...> wrote:

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> > > im andy im from the north of england , uk , i first saw the posters going up for planet of the apes at the cinema back in 1968 but being only 7 i was too young to go see it but it was engraved upon my mind. my first ape film at the cinema was escape which strangely being shown alomgside planet was shown first . these two are my favourite two ape films planet being the first . i am not a lover of the burton film as my facebook posts will testify . i was happy when rise came along because it didnt dissapoint and it has fuelled the ape franchise again thanks to jessica for helping this ol gorilla to find this group
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> > if i remember right it was an age thing at the cinema back then there was no pg rating , i think it was u a and x rated , i still remember being impressed with the cool posters they put up
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> Hi, Andy.
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> Back then in 1968, there were three ratings: U, A and X. X would have been the only restrictive rating (16 and over), while A would refer to the film being adult in nature, it still allowed for children to watch the film, with some local councils enforcing that children should be accompanied by an adult. U was universal. I believe that PotA was rated A back then, judging from this page on the BBFC's website: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/70aaf39c6f81e04780256dad001b5bec?OpenDocument&ExpandSection=4
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> Below is the ratings system in place in the UK during 1968.
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_British_film_certificates#1951.E2.80.931970
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> I'm also in the UK (Sussex), and also the first ever Apes film I went to see in the cinema was Escape, too, which was reshown sometime in the mid-seventies (Escape is my second favourite of the series after the original... naturally). Ah, the memories...
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> Graham
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hi graham think i know you from somewere else on here :) ... yes escape was my first ape film at the pics too

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:

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> Andy, if you can let me have your postal address, new UK members of the group sometimes qualify for a special, free, Apes gift. John, Scrolls.
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" <andrewredman06@> wrote:
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> > im andy im from the north of england , uk , i first saw the posters going up for planet of the apes at the cinema back in 1968 but being only 7 i was too young to go see it but it was engraved upon my mind. my first ape film at the cinema was escape which strangely being shown alomgside planet was shown first . these two are my favourite two ape films planet being the first . i am not a lover of the burton film as my facebook posts will testify . i was happy when rise came along because it didnt dissapoint and it has fuelled the ape franchise again thanks to jessica for helping this ol gorilla to find this group
> >hi john just getting used to using this sorry my address is e/mailed to you under andrewredman06@... , please let me know you got it ok thanks andy
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It's one of those movies I have not seen yet, so the BluRay set is not even on my radar.

:)

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:20 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

I'd be interested to know if folk here are buying the Star Wars blu ray set.

Are you kidding me?!!!!!!

It was never even on my Blu-ray radar. Couldn't care less. Personally, I'm more interested in the Blu-ray of BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S.

Well, I should say one of those movies I have never seen from beginning to end. I've seen snippets and I could name the main characters but that's about it.

Spoiler alert!!!










I do know that Luke is Leia's sister and Darth Vader is Luke's daddy...and Yoda sounds like Farley...other than that....I don't know much about the movie.

:)

Ooops sorry..that should have been Fozzy the bear...that muppet guy.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

Well, I should say one of those movies I have never seen from beginning to end. I've seen snippets and I could name the main characters but that's about it.

Spoiler alert!!!










I do know that Luke is Leia's sister and Darth Vader is Luke's daddy...and Yoda sounds like Farley...other than that....I don't know much about the movie.

:)

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:12 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

It's one of those movies I have not seen yet, so the BluRay set is not even on my radar.

:)

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:20 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

I'd be interested to know if folk here are buying the Star Wars blu ray set.

Are you kidding me?!!!!!!

It was never even on my Blu-ray radar. Couldn't care less. Personally, I'm more interested in the Blu-ray of BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S.