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It's a UK Mag.Actually, there are really only two regular sci fi mags out there now, as far as I know--ScFiNow and SFX, both being UK.The demise of Starlog, Starburst, DeathRay etc has left a real hole in my monthly read.I think SciFiNow does get distributed in the US--I don't have a scanner, unfortunately.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
>
> Sci Fi Now mag this month has several pages on Apes, including an article by Ed Gross looking at Conquest with an eye to RISE.RISE is described in another feature in this issue as 'the best thing to come out of Hollywood this year'.No arguments here! John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
> Can you remind me -- is Sci-Fi Now published in the UK? I forget. I think I have a hard time finding it.
>

How perfectly, typicaly Apes---THE APE doesn't do Christmas, it headlines,in typical downbeat Apes style,a livestock slaughter!I think you guys have captured the tone wonderfully---this is a series that should NEVER stop!I'm loving it.John, Scrolls.

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<http://www.scifinow.co.uk/magazine-issues/scifinow-issue-62-is-now-on-sale/>

Yes, it's a UK magazine. If memory serves it has been available from some stores in the US.

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
> Sci Fi Now mag this month has several pages on Apes, including an article by Ed Gross looking at Conquest with an eye to RISE.RISE is described in another feature in this issue as 'the best thing to come out of Hollywood this year'.No arguments here! John, Scrolls.
>
>
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> Can you remind me -- is Sci-Fi Now published in the UK? I forget. I think I have a hard time finding it.
>

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Apey Christmas everyone. It was a stellar year for ape fans. May we see more apes in the new year.

Jess.

Within the astonishing archive that is Hunter's site (http:pota.goatley.com/collectibles.html there is an image of the Mego Fortress in the Apes Collectibles section, featuring Burke and Virdon at the mercy of the gorillas.Virdon is in a cage and Burke is on a table a la The Interrogation---DOES this table spin around? I'm curious because on top of the fort is a heliograph(The Trap) which doesn't occur anywhere else in films or tv series and it suggests the Mego folk must have had some contact with the tv scripts when designing these sets---especially if that table spins like Wanda's! Anybody know? Merry Christmas to all in the meantime! John, Scrolls.

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I think that Barnes and Noble carries it, but don't quote me on that. :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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> <http://www.scifinow.co.uk/magazine-issues/scifinow-issue-62-is-now-on-sale/>
>
> Yes, it's a UK magazine. If memory serves it has been available from some stores in the US.
>
> Dave
>
>
>

Thanks for the great pic Jess!

To you and everyone else here who make this group an ongoing joy, have a great holiday!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> Apey Christmas everyone. It was a stellar year for ape fans. May we see
> more apes in the new year.
>
> Jess.
>

Thanks John! Glad you're enjoying THE APE, and don't worry it will be around through all of 2012 and beyond.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> How perfectly, typicaly Apes---THE APE doesn't do Christmas, it headlines,in typical downbeat Apes style,a livestock slaughter!I think you guys have captured the tone wonderfully---this is a series that should NEVER stop!I'm loving it.John, Scrolls.
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"Sci-Fi Now" and "SFX" are available at Barnes and Noble (at least mine). And "Sci Fi" is the official mag of the Sy Fy Channel and is a U.S. mag.


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I think that Barnes and Noble carries it, but don't quote me on that. :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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> <http://www.scifinow.co.uk/magazine-issues/scifinow-issue-62-is-now-on-sale/>
>
> Yes, it's a UK magazine. If memory serves it has been available from some stores in the US.
>
> Dave
>
>
>

Borders was a mile from my house and was able to get any mag I wanted. Damn it. The British magazines are the best weather sci-fi or Audio/Video. Sad, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> "Sci-Fi Now" and "SFX" are available at Barnes and Noble (at least mine). And "Sci Fi" is the official mag of the Sy Fy Channel and is a U.S. mag.
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That's just WETA up to their old tricks. Don't you ever learn?


From: Haristas@...
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Just in case any here need to be reminded that gorillas really are gentle giants -- and make chimps seem like devils -- here's a nice video for Christmas!

Enjoy!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/22/gorillas-pet-tourist-in-u_n_1165365.htmlref=mostpopular

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Chimp's are basically Humans with Half-Baked Brains.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzDLkPFjev4&feature=relmfu

 

 

In a message dated 12/24/2011 2:42:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Just in case any here need to be reminded that gorillas really are gentle giants -- and make chimps seem like devils -- here's a nice video for Christmas!

 

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And an Apey Christmas to you too.

 

 

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It's nice to see Ed Gross' Ape Central site continuing. News, satire and things that go BOOM!.

http://www.apecentral.net/

I saw these two pictures next to each other and realized the sequence. I can't believe they cut this scene from the movie. Heads will roll when I'm rich and powerful! >: (

#1: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2790112768/tt1318514

#2: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3696934656/ch0003449

Ed Gross recently talked sequel to "Rise of the POTA" director Rupert Wyatt, who mentioned how excited he was that Jackie Earle (Kraik) Hailey is returning to the POTA. OK, he didn't say that but it's probably what he's thinking.
In any case, he says the sequel will probably focus on the strengths that "Rise" had: "I would say that we will look to hold onto the realism and the way we will do that is the film will still be set in a world that is very understandable and appreciable to a modern, contemporary audience. I don't think any of us want to be setting the sequel in any dystopian, post-apocalyptic world. We have to play to the mythology of POTA, which is Mankind brought about his own downfall. And I would say the next film will actually focus closer to that than this last film did. As in, we are the orchestrators of our own demise. And we are the architects in many ways.
"I don't think we're necessarily going to tell a story that's saying humanity actually got it's act together and sorted themselves out because obviously we're playing into a mythology that's already preordained. But that said, I don't think we want to be setting a tone that is in any way dystopian or bleak in it's aspects because I think one of the things of ("Rise") that was so appealing to so many people was that it was a world that felt so contemporary and therefore let people in. It wasn't clean, straight sci-fi. It was actually a human drama that had science-fiction aspects, and those were to do with the apes. So we'll probably repeat that in many ways. We'll look to kind of work off of that and build from it. And we will be obviously in the future but the conflict between humans and apes will be played out in quite a plausible, logical world".

http://www.apecentral.net/2011/12/sequel-talk-director-rupert-wyatt-on-rise-and-its-follow-up.html"

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I saw a shoe that would make a good base for Ape Shoes.

It's called a Vibram Five Finger. I know the originals used

Espadrilles as a base. Anyway, here's a pic of the boot.

Anyone know what Apemania's Ape Shoes are based on?

Jess?

 

 

 

In a message dated 12/25/2011 8:54:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

 

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The 2012 WTF Movie Awards Hollywood.com As the super-smart ape Ceasar in Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Serkis not only put forth the first convincing case for CGI performance-capture filmmaking, he outshined his human co-star, James Franco, who appeared far less life-like in comparison. ... See all stories on this topic » Hollywood.com

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'Tis the season for year - end "Best" lists and Sasha Stone of Awards Daily chose "Rise of the POTA" as her # 3 movie of the year (along with it's soul brother "Project Nim"). She says: "Watching (the apes) in their cages finding the spirit to break out of their prison and find freedom was one of the most rapturous cinematic moments of the year". She also placed "Rise" in some of her other lists.

http://www.awardsdaily.com/2011/12/adtopten

But she can't say the same for it's Oscar chances (nomination ballots are being mailed today so the next few weeks are put up or shut up for nominations).

http://www.awardsdaily.com/2011/12/oscar-ballots-mailed-to-voters-today-as-war-horse-reclaims-the-lead-in-the-best-picture-race/

"Rise" is the front runner to win for Best FX but probably any other nomination at this point will be a miracle. It'll have to pull off a "District 9". But good luck to Andy Serkis and all the rest.

You had me excited there, you evil man.Jackie Earle Haley is a powerful actor--he almost seems the human form of Koba! We had a BBC News Review of the top ten movies of 2011 and, to my delight, RISE got in at No.10.This wasn't a popcorn list, it had some weighty stuff, with Tilda Swinton's 'Kevin' movie at No.1--there were no super hero nor Potter movies in there, so RISE really did jump the popular/critical success gulf this year.I'm still pinching myself at how good RISE is--I can't imagine ever getting tired of watching it.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Ed Gross recently talked sequel to "Rise of the POTA" director Rupert Wyatt, who mentioned how excited he was that Jackie Earle (Kraik) Hailey is returning to the POTA. OK, he didn't say that but it's probably what he's thinking.
> In any case, he says the sequel will probably focus on the strengths that "Rise" had: "I would say that we will look to hold onto the realism and the way we will do that is the film will still be set in a world that is very understandable and appreciable to a modern, contemporary audience. I don't think any of us want to be setting the sequel in any dystopian, post-apocalyptic world. We have to play to the mythology of POTA, which is Mankind brought about his own downfall. And I would say the next film will actually focus closer to that than this last film did. As in, we are the orchestrators of our own demise. And we are the architects in many ways.
> "I don't think we're necessarily going to tell a story that's saying humanity actually got it's act together and sorted themselves out because obviously we're playing into a mythology that's already preordained. But that said, I don't think we want to be setting a tone that is in any way dystopian or bleak in it's aspects because I think one of the things of ("Rise") that was so appealing to so many people was that it was a world that felt so contemporary and therefore let people in. It wasn't clean, straight sci-fi. It was actually a human drama that had science-fiction aspects, and those were to do with the apes. So we'll probably repeat that in many ways. We'll look to kind of work off of that and build from it. And we will be obviously in the future but the conflict between humans and apes will be played out in quite a plausible, logical world".
>
> http://www.apecentral.net/2011/12/sequel-talk-director-rupert-wyatt-on-rise-and-its-follow-up.html"
>

It certainly looks as though it SHOULD spin--although, knowing Mego, it's probably a recycled barber's chair from a Lone Ranger Western set! It does seem to echo The Interrogation and the use of the refelecter/heliographs is pure TV Series.I'm surprised Mego didn't market 'Tomorrow's Tide' sets , featuring the two astronauts in just their pants with a rubber shark.Of course, that's how Kass has always played with them--minus the shark.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> As I recall the table does not spin as it is all just cardboard....
> The thing on top of the fortress is a signal mirror like the one Galen used in one episode....
>
> Happy Christmas to all!!!!!!
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>

I've just heard Cheetah has screeeched his last.Couldn't keep burning the banana at both ends forever.After his horrendous, toe curling name check in the Burton movie, I'm only glad Cheetah lived to see RISE.Farewell my hairy friend, give my regards to Johnny.John, Scrolls.

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I'd also heard about this.  That's too bad. 

 

Zach  

 

In a message dated 12/28/2011 7:02:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, johnroche49@... writes:

 

I've just heard Cheetah has screeeched his last.Couldn't keep burning the banana at both ends forever.After his horrendous, toe curling name check in the Burton movie, I'm only glad Cheetah lived to see RISE.Farewell my hairy friend, give my regards to Johnny.John, Scrolls.

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There's a good wiki article on all the chimps that played Cheeta.

 

 

In a message dated 12/28/2011 7:38:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

 

Aaaah, I didn't believe it either.  The Cheeta's used in the 1930 MGM Tarzans died a long time ago.  I even remember reading about the death of one in a Weissmuller biography written by his son.  The son said that for Weissmuller the death was like that of a child.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/28/cheetah-the-chimp-death-hoax_n_1173404.html"

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Kind of reminds me of a personal tragedy I had.I bought a nude Verdon Mego and loved and cherished it for years.Only to discover that it was actually Hutch from Starsky and Hutch.I now use him as a target for my Mego Ape Catapult.I'll never trust another doll again.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Aaaah, I didn't believe it either. The Cheeta's used in the 1930 MGM Tarzans died a long time ago. I even remember reading about the death of one in a Weissmuller biography written by his son. The son said that for Weissmuller the death was like that of a child.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/28/cheetah-the-chimp-death-hoax_n_1173404.html"
>

That's my biggest gripe with RISE--they really, really dropped the ball on Cornelia.Zira and Cornelius, Caesar and Lisa---lovely, powerful love stories,strengthened through adversity.The trailer and publicity pictures hinted at more and I was sad that the film didn't do the relationship justice---that little head touch is heart breaking!!!When her cage is empty, I think that's a little toy horse Cornelia uses as a comfort blanket.Maybe a novel would fill the gaps in. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I saw these two pictures next to each other and realized the sequence. I can't believe they cut this scene from the movie. Heads will roll when I'm rich and powerful! >: (
>
> #1: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2790112768/tt1318514
>
> #2: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3696934656/ch0003449
>

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They could've at least put it in the deleted scenes. I think they're holding stuff back for another blu-ray. Probably when the sequel comes out.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:29 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Cornelia






That's my biggest gripe with RISE--they really, really dropped the ball on Cornelia.Zira and Cornelius, Caesar and Lisa---lovely, powerful love stories,strengthened through adversity.The trailer and publicity pictures hinted at more and I was sad that the film didn't do the relationship justice---that little head touch is heart breaking!!!When her cage is empty, I think that's a little toy horse Cornelia uses as a comfort blanket.Maybe a novel would fill the gaps in. John, Scrolls.





Didn't Rupert say someplace that he cut the Cornelia subplot out because he thought it was too campy? He's probably right.

Orangutans at the Milwaukee Zoo have started using ipads so they can watch David Attenborough and doodle. They're just like us! We all have the same needs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16354093

Mr. M. Mark says he hasn't seen "Rise" but has heard it was good, and that "ours wasn't". "Ours" meaning POTA2001, of which he starred. He says the script wasn't good and, as for director Tim Burton, "They were pushing him and pushing him in the wrong direction. You have got to let Tim do his thing". But he adds, "I have (had) no better time on any movie than I had working with Tim".

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a357705/mark-wahlberg-planet-of-the-apes-script-wasn't-good.html"

James Franco reportedly spoke up about Andy "Caesar" Serkis and the Oscar controversy, saying Serkis should be recognized because "this is the moment when he's really broken through (with motion capture)...What he does is real acting".

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/franco-oscars-should-recognise-serkis_1280186

Meanwhile, Franco's movie "Sal" premiered at a couple of film festivals in the last few months. Franco directed this movie about our own Sal "Milo" Mineo but it turns out it's a mini-budget/shot in 8 days affair. It's basically a showcase for the actor who plays Mineo, Val Lauren. It's set during the tragic last day of Sal's life and reportedly is done mostly in close-up. The comments I've seen suggest it's a slow paced art film (perhaps reminiscent of Gus Van Sant's work, who Franco admires) but Val Lauren does a good job as Sal. So Sal fans might want to look for it (but it doesn't sound like the kind of film that will get shown much).
Here's the "Hollywood Reporter" review:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/sal-venice-film-review-231002

And here's Franco and Lauren discussing the film:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL8c3AJro-w

I also wonder if it made the bridge battle and the end gathering slightly awkward--Caesar really should be looking out for his gal during the battle and then hugging her at the end.It's just Cornelia looks so damn....beautiful! One of the trailers (not on the damn blu ray!) had Franco saying to Caesar at the end 'Don't ever let them find you', or something like that, so there's clearly some additional material out there.Something to look forward to.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I think they're holding stuff back for another blu-ray.
>
>
> That's what fat Harry thinks too, over at Aintitcool.
>

Personally, I think with the 'look' and attitude that Burton approached the project with, NO script could have saved it.Just as they say Gettysburg was the price the Confederacy had to pay for having the great General Lee,maybe Burton was the price we had to pay for the great General Wyatt.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Mr. M. Mark says he hasn't seen "Rise" but has heard it was good, and that "ours wasn't". "Ours" meaning POTA2001, of which he starred. He says the script wasn't good and, as for director Tim Burton, "They were pushing him and pushing him in the wrong direction. You have got to let Tim do his thing". But he adds, "I have (had) no better time on any movie than I had working with Tim".
>
> http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a357705/mark-wahlberg-planet-of-the-apes-script-wasn't-good.html"
>

With the financial news slant of THE APE this week, can we expect a review of the state of Sub Primate Lending in future issues?And an Apey New Year to one and all!!! John, Scrolls.

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> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm> - The Memoirs
> of Dr. Cornelius. * Ape City Chronicles
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm> - The First
> 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil. * The Illustrated
> Monkey Planet <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MPC.htm>
> - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. *
> The Mendez Dynasty
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm> - Keepers of
> the Divine Bomb. * POTA Locations
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm> -
> The places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm> -
> Works of POTA Art by our members. * The Database Section
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> ranging from Characters to Comics.
>

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I find that incredible!  And "iZaius..."  ...thanks!   Zach            -------Original Message-------   From: Jeff K. Date: 12/29/2011 8:42:41 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] iZauis     Orangutans at the Milwaukee Zoo have started using ipads so they can watch David Attenborough and doodle. They're just like us! We all have the same needs. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16354093

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It's considered one of the hallmarks of human civilization, the discovery of fire. But look who's discovered fire now: Kanzi, the famous signing ape. He can light matches and even cook food with it. Ipads and now fire? We're toast!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/30/kanzi-chimpanzee-cooking-with-fire_n_1176518.htmlref=green

"Rise of the POTA" finished in the Top 10 domestically for the year. Let's run the numbers. So why does Hollywood make sequels again?

1. Harry Potter 8
2. Transformers 3
3. Twilight 4
4. Hangover 2
5. Pirates 4
6. Fast 5
7. Cars 2
8. Thor
9. Rise
10. Capt. America

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2011&p=.htm

It got bumped out of the Worldwide Top 10 and who knows where late releases like "Mission: Impossible" and "Sherlock Holmes" will end up? But for now, "rise" a glass to a successful new launch for POTA this year. Apey New Year!

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Click here: Great Ape Trust Research Shows Chimpanzee's Progress Learning to Make Fire | Video | TheBlaze.com

 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/meet-the-chimp-that-learned-to-build-fires-after-watching-tv/

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I don't mind losing to Pirates or Potter, but Thor?

 

 

In a message dated 12/31/2011 12:40:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

"Rise of the POTA" finished in the Top 10 domestically for the year. Let's run the numbers. So why does Hollywood make sequels again?

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When you see three of the worst films ever made (Transformers, Twilight and Pirates) in there,it's almost frightening how bad cinema sells.Do we have an equivalent list anywhere for 1968? I never quite adjusted for inflation lists--the only real guide is to compare the actual standings in a year.
Apes could have been mortally wounded in 2011.Instead, with RISE,we're hairy, we're happy AND WE'RE BACK!!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> "Rise of the POTA" finished in the Top 10 domestically for the year. Let's run the numbers. So why does Hollywood make sequels again?
>
> 1. Harry Potter 8
> 2. Transformers 3
> 3. Twilight 4
> 4. Hangover 2
> 5. Pirates 4
> 6. Fast 5
> 7. Cars 2
> 8. Thor
> 9. Rise
> 10. Capt. America
>
> http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2011&p=.htm
>
> It got bumped out of the Worldwide Top 10 and who knows where late releases like "Mission: Impossible" and "Sherlock Holmes" will end up? But for now, "rise" a glass to a successful new launch for POTA this year. Apey New Year!
>

If Kanzi can cook, he's already several branches higher than my wife on the evolutiuonary tree.Does he have a sister? John, Scrolls

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> It's considered one of the hallmarks of human civilization, the discovery of fire. But look who's discovered fire now: Kanzi, the famous signing ape. He can light matches and even cook food with it. Ipads and now fire? We're toast!
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/30/kanzi-chimpanzee-cooking-with-fire_n_1176518.htmlref=green
>

I was more immersed in POTA 68 and POTA 01 because of the make up. I've studied apes for most of my 49 years and I couldn't lose the feeling that they were fake. Don't get me wrong, I loved the movie. But, the apes had too many mistakes for me to take them as real. Sure, the artists did their research, but not enough. And on BluRay it becomes even more apparent. Just my personal opinion.
Jeff

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 6:56 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

Personally, I think with the 'look' and attitude that Burton approached the project with, NO script could have saved it.Just as they say Gettysburg was the price the Confederacy had to pay for having the great General Lee,maybe Burton was the price we had to pay for the great General Wyatt.John, Scrolls.

Looking back, I think the most important thing the Burton debacle showed was the limitations of prosthetic makeup on human actors playing apes. Although there were some major makeup design mistakes, -- mostly the fault of Burton, not Baker --, there were also very good simian makeups, BUT it was always apparent that it's a human dressed as an ape. This illusion may have worked back in the sixties and seventies, because there was no better way to do it outside of an animated movie, but today, it just doesn't work. If RISE had used actors in ape suits, it wouldn't have fooled anybody. I just recently showed the Blu-ray of RISE to my 73-year-old father, who knew nothing of how the SFX in RISE were created. At the end of the movie, when all the apes "rise" as Caesar walks among them, my father said to me, "Are you sure none of those apes are real?" He was surprised when I told that although they were all CGI, there was an actor behind all those apes. Then I showed him one of the featurettes on how it was done.

One thing that does strike me when I look at RISE is wondering how long it will be before its SFX look dated? I don't think it'll be very long.

-- Rory

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It is interesting to see the Evolution of Ape Makeup.

From the Eddie G. screentest, to the features, to the

early tests with Winston's take on POTA2K1, and

Bakers early Bo Derek stuff.  I do think that they

will improve the CG stuff. But there's no going

back now, unless Fox allows some low budget

indie stuff, or it gets spun in a new direction

ala 2001 or something using talking apes.

 

 

In a message dated 12/31/2011 8:57:48 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

This illusion may have worked back in the sixties and seventies, because there was no better way to do it outside of an animated movie,

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Yeah there's a movie about far

left wing radicals in Japan that's

shot mostly in close up in the

dark.  I think they just didn't

have the budget for scenery.

 

 

In a message dated 12/31/2011 9:06:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

 

Meanwhile, Franco's movie "Sal" premiered at a couple of film festivals in the last few months. Franco directed this movie about our own Sal "Milo" Mineo but it turns out it's a mini-budget/shot in 8 days affair. It's basically a showcase for the actor who plays Mineo, Val Lauren. It's set during the tragic last day of Sal's life and reportedly is done mostly in close-up. The comments I've seen suggest it's a slow paced art film (perhaps reminiscent of Gus Van Sant's work, who Franco admires) but Val Lauren does a good job as Sal. So Sal fans might want to look for it (but it doesn't sound like the kind of film that will get shown much).
Here's the "Hollywood Reporter" review:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/sal-venice-film-review-231002

Thank the Lawgiver!  At least we won't have to suffer a movie that could have had Mineo in POTA makeup bitching about how humiliated he was.

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How about this...

CG Apes in the style of Classic POTA?

But totally photo-realistic! I for one would love

to see that.  Computer Generated Evolved Apes!

Who wouldn't love that? You can use makeup for

the long shots and just use the computer stuff for

close-ups and articulation. Can't go wrong there.

 

 

In a message dated 12/31/2011 1:01:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, skintricks62@... writes:

I was more immersed in POTA 68 and POTA 01 because of the make up.  I've studied apes for most of my 49 years and I couldn't lose the feeling that they were fake.  Don't get me wrong, I loved the movie.  But, the apes had too many mistakes for me to take them as real.  Sure, the artists did their research, but not enough. And on BluRay it becomes even more apparent.   Just my personal opinion.
 Jeff

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I probably missed this somewhere along the line, but why isn't the theatrical ending from Rise in the DVD version? The DVD just ends with the forest scene instead of the airport scene.

Mel

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That would be a shame. When I saw Rise, the audience LOVED the post-forest ending...especially when it initially seemed like Caesar was returning to his childhood home to visit the airline pilot who got him evicted... :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "knightangel314" <chimel23@...> wrote:
>
> I probably missed this somewhere along the line, but why isn't the theatrical ending from Rise in the DVD version? The DVD just ends with the forest scene instead of the airport scene.
>
> Mel
>

The DVD that came with my blu-ray has it. You're looking for it after the credits start?


From: knightangel314
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:40 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Rise ending



I probably missed this somewhere along the line, but why isn't the theatrical ending from Rise in the DVD version? The DVD just ends with the forest scene instead of the airport scene.

Mel

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That would be a shame. When I saw Rise, the audience LOVED the post-forest ending...especially when it initially seemed like Caesar was returning to his childhood home to visit the airline pilot who got him evicted... :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "knightangel314" <chimel23@...> wrote:
>
> I probably missed this somewhere along the line, but why isn't the theatrical ending from Rise in the DVD version? The DVD just ends with the forest scene instead of the airport scene.
>
> Mel
>

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On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:17 AM, georgetaylor68 <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:

That would be a shame. When I saw Rise, the audience LOVED the post-forest ending...especially when it initially seemed like Caesar was returning to his childhood home to visit the airline pilot who got him evicted... :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "knightangel314" <chimel23@...> wrote:
>
> I probably missed this somewhere along the line, but why isn't the theatrical ending from Rise in the DVD version? The DVD just ends with the forest scene instead of the airport scene.
>
> Mel
>

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

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If you've seen the cult British tv series 'Survivors', from the mid 70s, it's easy to imagine that the closing credits of RISE were inspired by the OPENING credits of Survivors---particularly given the British contingent in the production of RISE.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
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> The sequence takes place a minute or two into the final credits. It's certainly present on the Blu-ray.....
>
> Hunter
> ------
> Hunter Goatley, goathunter@...
>

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We all know that Jackie Earle "Kraik" Haley should be in "Rise 2". Does anyone object? I didn't think so.
The question is, who should he play? I was thinking one of the human survivors but, wait a minute, hold the phone... what about that ship full of astronauts? What was it, the Icarus? We all know damn well that Taylor didn't go to friggin' Mars so that's out. The only way to do this is those astronauts return and find humanity devastated by the virus. They're like, "What the?". And Kraik, I mean Mr. Haley, is one of the astronauts and he comes upon one of the human survivors, a cameo by Ron Harper. And he's like, "I need a pouch to carry my things in, my half eaten chocolate chip cookie and so forth". But Ron can't help him because he's barely surviving. So Haley fights the apes when he's not making wild, passionate love to Freida Pinto.
There's your sequel right there. Write your congressman. Tell Newt Gingrich you'll vote for him if he makes this happen. It's a Kraik world and POTA's just living in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h29uZn1ME8

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If you've never picked up a comic, or have held back from this Apes series, make a New Year resolution and treat yourself to BOOM!'s series.Issue #9 is fantabuloso and a true addition to the Apes mythos and timeline.I can't recommend it highly enough--this saga is just gripping! John, Scrolls.

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Has anyone seen this?

Description

Yeah, what's their source? They're referencing the Q & A I was at, where the writers said it might be 2013.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:31 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"




The Rise of the Planet of the Apes sequel is expected to begin production later this year, with a 2014 release date.

http://www.fansshare.com/news/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-sequel-to-have-talking-apes/

Yeah, no surprise there for me. I knew it would be 2014.

-- Rory

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You're the guy who said "Rise" would come out in 2012. I said 2011.
Studios want these sequels out quick to capitalize on the heat. Two years is the new three years. Plus 2013 is the 50th anniversary of the book, a nice tie-in. If the script comes together quickly it will be 2013. If not, 2014. Or maybe never.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:55 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"






Yeah, what's their source? They're referencing the Q & A I was at, where the writers said it might be 2013.



Yeah, what's their source? I mean the writers. You know, the ones who were fired three times by Fox.

Veetus.... anything the writers say... is a load of hugger-mugger. They don't even know when Fox will fire them again... that's how much they know.

2014, Veetus... AND I'M THE SOURCE!

-- Rory

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Happy Friday! This week's issue of THE APE is now available.

To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

And since it is the first friday of the month, part 5 of Marvel's adaptation of "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" is now available in the MARVEL ARCHIVE.

To access the ARCHIVE click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Internal Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
• Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
• The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel.
• The Mendez Dynasty - Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
• POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.

As always thank you for posting this bit of Simian audio
appreciate it!

Now off to check out the new friday offerings here at POTA Yahoo!
;-)

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

[Attachment(s) from James included below]

From: Bill Hollweg
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:45 PM
Subject: New Audio Thursday - 05/01/12 - "BPOTA ep 7" Thursday .

In case you need simians in the earbuds
;-)

I hope this post finds you well and that you're ready to enjoy some great audio!

WoooHooo! The first NAT of 2012! Lots of audio goodness ahead over the coming year, with a few surprises in store too.

General Ursus' gorilla troops are ready for war in :-

Beneath The Planet of the Apes – Episode 7

Hope you enjoy listening as much as we enjoy making ….

Stevie

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

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THE APE is wonderful, as always.What does an Aldo Cult glyph look like---and are we sure you've spelled 'Cult' correctly in Aldo's case? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Happy Friday! This week's issue of THE APE is now available.
>
> To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this
> link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm> .
>
> And since it is the first friday of the month, part 5 of Marvel's
> adaptation of "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" is now available in
> the MARVEL ARCHIVE.
>
> To access the ARCHIVE click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use
> this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm> .
>
> Have a great weekend everyone!
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
> * The Internal Website
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm> - Original POTA
> One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and
> much, much more. * Lessons from the Lawgiver
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm> – Words
> of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. * Cornelius' Journal
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm> - The Memoirs
> of Dr. Cornelius. * Ape City Chronicles
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm> - The First
> 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil. * The Illustrated
> Monkey Planet <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MPC.htm>
> - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. *
> The Mendez Dynasty
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm> - Keepers of
> the Divine Bomb. * POTA Locations
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm> -
> The places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm> -
> Works of POTA Art by our members. * The Database Section
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> ranging from Characters to Comics.
>

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