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Group: pota Message: 67906 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
Group: pota Message: 67907 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
Group: pota Message: 67908 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
Group: pota Message: 67909 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Here Come The Brides
Group: pota Message: 67910 From: James Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: FW: Emailing: Mego Repros
Group: pota Message: 67911 From: James Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: FW: Emailing: Apes Makeup Cartoon
Group: pota Message: 67912 From: kevin007 Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
Group: pota Message: 67913 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Re: Here Come The Brides
Group: pota Message: 67914 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: "Silence is Golden"
Group: pota Message: 67915 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Silence is Golden"
Group: pota Message: 67916 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Silence is Golden"
Group: pota Message: 67917 From: James Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 67918 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Silence is Golden"
Group: pota Message: 67919 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: POTA68 Oscar nominations
Group: pota Message: 67920 From: Zeeboe Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
Group: pota Message: 67921 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: @leeunkrich, 1/21/12 1:18 PM
Group: pota Message: 67922 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
Group: pota Message: 67923 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 67924 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 67925 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
Group: pota Message: 67926 From: A REDMAN Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
Group: pota Message: 67927 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
Group: pota Message: 67928 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES, 1/24/2012, 8:30 am
Group: pota Message: 67929 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
Group: pota Message: 67930 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
Group: pota Message: 67931 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67932 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: The Oscars, What did you expext!
Group: pota Message: 67933 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Chimp Repression
Group: pota Message: 67934 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67935 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67936 From: scott bosco Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67937 From: scott bosco Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis talks sequel
Group: pota Message: 67938 From: James Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 67939 From: jamesa1102 Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
Group: pota Message: 67940 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
Group: pota Message: 67941 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67942 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Don't Oscar nominees tend to be November / December releases?
Group: pota Message: 67943 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Great Oscar Moments #42
Group: pota Message: 67944 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Don't Oscar nominees tend to be November / December releases?
Group: pota Message: 67945 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Here Come The Brides
Group: pota Message: 67946 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
Group: pota Message: 67947 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Serkis reaction
Group: pota Message: 67948 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Here Come The Brides
Group: pota Message: 67949 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67950 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Gregory Sierra's Birthday , 1/25/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 67951 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67952 From: A REDMAN Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67953 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Here Come The Brides
Group: pota Message: 67954 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: WETA's Daniel Barrett talks Oscar nomination
Group: pota Message: 67955 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67956 From: James Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: FW: ape photos
Group: pota Message: 67957 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67958 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67959 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67960 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis reaction
Group: pota Message: 67961 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67962 From: James Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 67963 From: jamesa1102 Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis reaction
Group: pota Message: 67964 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: THE APE OSCAR
Group: pota Message: 67965 From: Mfx_specialprojects@yahoo.com Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: THE APE OSCAR
Group: pota Message: 67966 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67967 From: William Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: complete cast and crew of planet of the apes 1968
Group: pota Message: 67968 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
Group: pota Message: 67969 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
Group: pota Message: 67970 From: William Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: complete cast and crew of planet of the apes
Group: pota Message: 67971 From: James Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: FW: Planet of the Apes (1968) - Notes - TCM.com
Group: pota Message: 67972 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
Group: pota Message: 67973 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: THE APE OSCAR
Group: pota Message: 67974 From: James Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: FW: john chambers oscar
Group: pota Message: 67975 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Mondo posters
Group: pota Message: 67976 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
Group: pota Message: 67977 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: OT: Holy Moses!
Group: pota Message: 67978 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67979 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67980 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis talks sequel
Group: pota Message: 67981 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis reaction
Group: pota Message: 67982 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67983 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis reaction
Group: pota Message: 67984 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis reaction
Group: pota Message: 67985 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67986 From: dave Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
Group: pota Message: 67987 From: chimel23@comcast.net Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: New POTA fan
Group: pota Message: 67988 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
Group: pota Message: 67989 From: A REDMAN Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
Group: pota Message: 67990 From: A REDMAN Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67991 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
Group: pota Message: 67992 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
Group: pota Message: 67993 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: THE APE OSCAR
Group: pota Message: 67994 From: James Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: FW: ape goodies
Group: pota Message: 67995 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
Group: pota Message: 67996 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: OT: Holy Moses!
Group: pota Message: 67997 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis reaction
Group: pota Message: 67998 From: James Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 67999 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
Group: pota Message: 68000 From: mmuse@pfobrien.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
Group: pota Message: 68001 From: James Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: FW: planet items
Group: pota Message: 68003 From: Tim Date: 1/27/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
Group: pota Message: 68004 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/27/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
Group: pota Message: 68005 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 1/27/2012
Subject: Re: FW: ape goodies [3 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 68006 From: jamesa1102 Date: 1/27/2012
Subject: The Ape



Group: pota Message: 67906 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
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I totally agree.
 
Al

From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:09 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Conquest Vs Rise

 

That's really hard to say. They are both very different movies, so it is an apples and oranges comparison. But if you put a gun to my head; I would say Conquest.

It is apples and oranges.  It's dumb really to make a competion between them.  They are two very different movies made in different eras for different audiences.
 
CONQUEST was made for the fans of the APES movies that came before it.  RISE was made for the modern, world-wide movie audience.  They have the same DNA, but they're cousins, not brothers.


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Group: pota Message: 67907 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
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It will always be Conquest. I was at the Embassy 46th st, NYNY when it premered and at 12 years old any event becomes part of your DNA and it cant be helped. Watching on that huge screen with a very good sound system with the great cinematography of Bruce Surtees and the great opening them of Tom Scott just hit a chord that will forever make it my favorite sequel. Even then I had an eye of seeing that certain elements were missing or changed and that just added to the mystery that is Conquest of the Planet of the Apes. Even with its monochromatic color scheme it still is the most colorfull of all the Apes films. Take care, John M.



I first saw CONQUEST at a drive-in -- unfortunately.  A year and a half later I finally saw it in a theatre and it was like seeing the movie for the first time.
 
Though I now view CONQUEST as a very compromised movie, not just for its "official" altered ending, but also because of the budgetary limits on its scope, I am reminded that the first time I saw CONQUEST, the final moments made the hairs on the back of neck "rise."
 
If only Fox had ended the series with CONQUEST.
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Group: pota Message: 67908 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
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But you can still say whether you prefer apples or oranges.



Apples.
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Group: pota Message: 67909 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Here Come The Brides
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Didn't realize Buck Kartalian was on Here Come The Brides. Julius and Urko on the same show. The old shows and movies had so many POTA actors in them
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Group: pota Message: 67910 From: James Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: FW: Emailing: Mego Repros
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From: RedSpy13@...
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:10 PM
Subject: Emailing: Mego Repros

 

Greetings, my friend.

 

Found an ad from a 2008 issue of Starlog Magazine for the Mego reproduction figures.  Enjoy!

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

 

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Group: pota Message: 67911 From: James Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: FW: Emailing: Apes Makeup Cartoon
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From: RedSpy13@...
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:08 PM
Subject: Emailing: Apes Makeup Cartoon

 

Greetings, my friend.

 

Found a new cartoon from Starlog Magazine.  Hope you like it!

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

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Group: pota Message: 67912 From: kevin007 Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
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Conquest was and always will be my favorite ape movie. I especially enjoyed the original/director's cut on the blu ray released a couple of years back, having heard so much about the differences from the re-cut version since I was a kid. Marvel's adaptation followed the original script more closely. Finally seeing the original cut of the film, to me, was a holy grail of sorts. I was amazed that there was still a print after all these years. A very pleasant surprise. Rise was fun, though. Would love to see more ape adventures.
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Group: pota Message: 67913 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: Re: Here Come The Brides
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and now James Gregory on The Partridge Family.

Jeff B

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Jeff Barkley <skintricks62@...> wrote:
Didn't realize Buck Kartalian was on Here Come The Brides. Julius and Urko on the same show. The old shows and movies had so many POTA actors in them

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Group: pota Message: 67914 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/22/2012
Subject: "Silence is Golden"
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ABC News just did a report about the Oscar nominations with the theme "Silence is Golden" because the silent movie "The Artist" is expected to be the big winner. Well, the apes mostly don't talk in "Rise". Andy Serkis' performance was acknowledged for not being able to rely on words. Therefore the apes were silent!
It's a sign! "Silence is Golden"! The silent movie actors don't speak and neither do the apes! Why didn't I think of it before? I thought "Rise" was going to get nominations because it's an animal movie like "War Horse". But, no! It's going to get nominations because "Silence is Golden". "Rise" is going to get a tree full of nominations! OMG! OMG! OMG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe4qk7Mijlo
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Group: pota Message: 67915 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Silence is Golden"
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It would be good to think the Academy could embrace the way the technolgy of acting has advanced---it's hard to see how much more Andy Serkis could have achieved with his performance.Here's hoping.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> ABC News just did a report about the Oscar nominations with the theme "Silence is Golden" because the silent movie "The Artist" is expected to be the big winner. Well, the apes mostly don't talk in "Rise". Andy Serkis' performance was acknowledged for not being able to rely on words. Therefore the apes were silent!
> It's a sign! "Silence is Golden"! The silent movie actors don't speak and neither do the apes! Why didn't I think of it before? I thought "Rise" was going to get nominations because it's an animal movie like "War Horse". But, no! It's going to get nominations because "Silence is Golden". "Rise" is going to get a tree full of nominations! OMG! OMG! OMG!
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe4qk7Mijlo
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Group: pota Message: 67916 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Silence is Golden"
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ABC News just did a report about the Oscar nominations with the theme "Silence is Golden" because the silent movie "The Artist" is expected to be the big winner. Well, the apes mostly don't talk in "Rise". Andy Serkis' performance was acknowledged for not being able to rely on words. Therefore the apes were silent!
It's a sign! "Silence is Golden"! The silent movie actors don't speak and neither do the apes! Why didn't I think of it before? I thought "Rise" was going to get nominations because it's an animal movie like "War Horse". But, no! It's going to get nominations because "Silence is Golden". "Rise" is going to get a tree full of nominations! OMG! OMG! OMG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe4qk7Mijlo



I believe ABC's "Good Morning America" show will broadcast the Oscar nominations live tomorrow, correct?
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Group: pota Message: 67917 From: James Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

CRAIG'S BEST AND WORST MOVIES OF 2011
Rough Cut Reviews
If I had stopped to think about it and made a list of movies that I thought would be in the top 5 of 2011, RISE OF HE PLANET OF THE APES is one I certainly would've never have picked. Not because of Tim Burton's disastrous 2001 retelling of PLANET OF ...
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Round she goes ...
Monterey County Herald
I would, however, give the best actor Oscar to a chimpanzee — or rather, to Andy Serkis, who played a computer-generated one in "Rise of the Planet of the Apes." Serkis, long regarded as motion-capture's leading thespian, never got a nod for his ...
See all stories on this topic »

 

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Group: pota Message: 67918 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Silence is Golden"
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Everyone will, sir. It's da Oscars.
And it's "POTA has a golden itch" Day.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 6:12 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Silence is Golden"





I believe ABC's "Good Morning America" show will broadcast the Oscar nominations live tomorrow, correct?
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Group: pota Message: 67919 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: POTA68 Oscar nominations
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On this Oscar Nomination Eve, let's not forget that the original POTA had it's share of Oscar noms, and pretty weighty stuff for a sci-fi movie back then. It received noms for Best Costume Design and Best Score. Of course, John Chambers received an Oscar but that was an honorary one since there was no makeup category then. POTA didn't "win" any Oscars, so if "Rise" does (such as for Visual FX) it will be a POTA first.
That was actually a pretty heady year for science fiction at the Oscars. "2001: A Space Odyssey" received nominations for Best Director, Best Script and Best Art Direction, and won for Best Visual FX. And Cliff Robertson actually won Best Actor for "Charly".
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Group: pota Message: 67920 From: Zeeboe Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
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Hello. I'm a 29-year old man from Texas. When I first watched the "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" trailer online last summer, I decided it was time to watch all the other "Planet of the Apes" films because I had only heard of them, but had not watched them. I watched all the Ape movies last summer, knowing nothing about them beforehand. I never saw the previews for them, I never read anything about them, and I never saw the spoofs. (Or if I did, I had forgotten them, or never understood them in the first place.)

I thought the original "Planet of the Apes" was amazing. One of the greatest motion pictures ever made. It is not dated one bit. It has stood the test of time. The line "Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape" made me smile. It didn't surprise me when I got online, and discovered that this is one of the most famous movie lines ever. (I've also become a huge Charlton Heston fan since becoming a POTA fan.) I can see now why the original "Planet of the Apes" is a classic. It's become one of my favorite films of all time. The ending shocked me, and disturbed me. It gave me goosebumps. I honestly did not see that coming. I sat in shocked silence as the credits played. I really enjoyed all the other POTA pictures that followed as well, and I went into the theater watching "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" a new POTA fan and was able to catch several of the nods to the older films.

I now own all five Planet of the Apes pictures on blu-ray, the live-action TV series, and the animation show on DVD, and Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes", and "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" on blu-ray, the novel by Pierre Boulle, and the four books that were based off the Planet of the Apes sequels, and several other Planet of the Apes related books, and even a Planet of the Apes t-shirt.

Anyhow, I look forward to posting with everyone. I hope we can have some good discussions of the Apes films.
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Group: pota Message: 67921 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: @leeunkrich, 1/21/12 1:18 PM
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Here's another Hal Holbrook Pota conection.
What do Hal Holbrook and Roddy McDowall
have in common.  Both went to Culver Military Academy.
And speaking of Mark Twain...in addition to Holbook's
Twain being performed there, William Windom performed
his James Thurber one man show there as well. His TV
series My World And Welcome To It was based on Thurber.
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2012 5:44:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, goathunter@... writes:
Thanks, @hodgman, for fulfilling my lifelong dream of meeting Dr. Zaius dressed as Hal Holbrook dressed as Mark Twain. pic.twitter.com/FdnD63dX
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Group: pota Message: 67922 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
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I'll go with Conquest.  Two talking apes for the price of one.
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2012 7:38:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, smugster2000@... writes:
of the POTA' or 'Rise of the POTA'?
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Group: pota Message: 67923 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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"Every year the zombie Jesus rises from the grave.
Then we sing Christmas carols to lull him back to sleep."
 
 ~~~~Homer Simpson~~~~~
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2012 11:27:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, johnmermigas@... writes:
 

Couldnt agree more. Very good post..John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> that's hog wash the end is not coming this year why i'am the v.i.p. number one human on this planet, why would the big guy or gal had me born to this planet, if i'am wrong see you in the lineup going downstairs, i do belive in the afterlife. hope rise wins a few oscars. thanks john
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> Eventually man will go extinct, but don't expect it in our lifetimes.
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> By the way, I don't believe in god, souls, an afterlife, or angels. The universe is a cold, empty space, and from the very moment the sperm meets the egg, the universe is out to do one thing to you... one thing above all else -- KILL YOU!
>
> Eventually it succeeds. There's only one constant in the universe -- nothing lasts.
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> And on that note... HAVE A NICE DAY! ;-)
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Group: pota Message: 67924 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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I'm just reincarnating until the Big Crunch,
when all Black Holes are sucked into a
Super Massive Black Hole and the gravity
is high enough to punch through Space Time
and Big Bang our Universe into another dimension.
It's going to take a long time I know.  I can wait.
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2012 11:27:36 A.M. Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:
Life is a video game. Just like the Matrix.
You die, game over. Then you go and pick another video game. :o)
 
Al
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Group: pota Message: 67925 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
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Agreed.  Battle's plot was weak. And the ending
was too hopeful. It didn't have the doom over it
like the others to he a proper POTA movie.
Also, too bad Star Wars didn't end with Empire.
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2012 11:38:16 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
If only Fox had ended the series with CONQUEST.
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Group: pota Message: 67926 From: A REDMAN Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
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hey dude now you know there is another jungle beyhond the forbidden zone ..... welcome to the year 3978 to a planet where man is beast and apes rule ..... oh yes they surely do  andy
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Group: pota Message: 67927 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/23/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
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Welcome fellow Texan, to the Planet of the Apes!
 
 
In a message dated 1/23/2012 2:27:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, Clown11182@... writes:
Hello. I'm a 29-year old man from Texas.
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Group: pota Message: 67928 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES, 1/24/2012, 8:30 am
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Date:   Tuesday January 24, 2012
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Notes:   Roddy McDowall leads his monkey friends in a revolt against their human masters in this 1972 installment of the 'Apes' series.
 
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Group: pota Message: 67929 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
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Welcome,

If you want everything, see the site of Hunter "pota.goatley.com". Is the Best.

2012/1/23, LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...>:
>
> Welcome fellow Texan, to the Planet of the Apes!
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/23/2012 2:27:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Clown11182@... writes:
>
> Hello. I'm a 29-year old man from Texas.
>
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Group: pota Message: 67930 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Conquest Vs Rise
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Personally, Conquest has always been special, along with Battle, because they were the only two movie novels I had for years, and I read them to bits.The Conquest novel is, in my opinion, the best novelisation of any Apes movie and it , in my opinion, eclipses the movie itself.I happen to think that the Marvel adaptation of Conquest is also the best comics adaptation too! Without a novel or comic adaptation of RISE, it's difficult for it to burn its way as deeply into my subconscious as Conquest has---the mere fact that I am even pondering the question shows how damn good RISE is! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Agreed. Battle's plot was weak. And the ending
> was too hopeful. It didn't have the doom over it
> like the others to he a proper POTA movie.
> Also, too bad Star Wars didn't end with Empire.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/22/2012 11:38:16 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> If only Fox had ended the series with CONQUEST.
>
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Group: pota Message: 67931 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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Well, it was a pretty bad year for apes at the Oscars. "Rise" got the expected Visual FX nom but that's it. Even "Project Nim" didn't get a nomination. Andy Serkis didn't get one for Best Supporting Actor (nor did the expected Albert Brooks) but the campaign for him and the dialogue about motion capture was still historic. So "Rise" takes a backseat to the original POTA re: Oscar.
"So be it". - - - Ursus
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Group: pota Message: 67932 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: The Oscars, What did you expext!
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They will never get with it in any major catergory. To me its the same old same old. Many good films but to me they are dinosaurs..Hopefully technical awards atleast will be bestowed. Another boring not watching it again Oscar show. Take care, John M.
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Group: pota Message: 67933 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Chimp Repression
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I would like to protest at the lack of Chimps on the Homepage GOP Panel pic.I know George W Bush has his critics, but that doesn't mean ALL Chimps are bad.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 67934 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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The smart thing to do was to give Andy a nomination. And even if the academy isn't ready to give an Oscar for motion capture, at least the hype and the hoopla surrounding the nomination would have at least made the Oscars a bit more interesting to watch this year.
 
Now all of America and the world are headed for another boring ass Oscar night.
And believe me, it will be boring. Thank God for TIVO. Fast Forward to Best Visual Effects, please. lol
 
Al

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:58 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Goooo WETA!

 
Well, it was a pretty bad year for apes at the Oscars. "Rise" got the expected Visual FX nom but that's it. Even "Project Nim" didn't get a nomination. Andy Serkis didn't get one for Best Supporting Actor (nor did the expected Albert Brooks) but the campaign for him and the dialogue about motion capture was still historic. So "Rise" takes a backseat to the original POTA re: Oscar.
"So be it". - - - Ursus


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Group: pota Message: 67935 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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Well, it was a pretty bad year for apes at the Oscars. "Rise" got the expected Visual FX nom but that's it. Even "Project Nim" didn't get a nomination. Andy Serkis didn't get one for Best Supporting Actor (nor did the expected Albert Brooks) but the campaign for him and the dialogue about motion capture was still historic. So "Rise" takes a backseat to the original POTA re: Oscar.
"So be it". - - - Ursus



Look on the bright side... RISE could win an Oscar.  That would be better than PLANET did.  Remember, Chambers' Oscar was a "special" one, gotten by the kind of Oscar campaigning that only an inside Hollywood guy like Jacobs could muster.
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Group: pota Message: 67936 From: scott bosco Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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I don't agree - the smart things was done.  Andy did little more than all those before him who were rotoscoped in animated films - and none of them were every really acknowleged.  The technology used in RISE was just the next step in (no pun intended) evolution of CG which really began with THE MUMMY, and Arnold Vosloo.  It has since been used in various forms with improvments from LORD OF THE RINGS, KING KONG, and AVITAR.
Been there, done that.
- Scott B.

From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...>
To: "pota@yahoogroups.com" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Goooo WETA!

 
The smart thing to do was to give Andy a nomination. And even if the academy isn't ready to give an Oscar for motion capture, at least the hype and the hoopla surrounding the nomination would have at least made the Oscars a bit more interesting to watch this year.
 
Now all of America and the world are headed for another boring ass Oscar night.
And believe me, it will be boring. Thank God for TIVO. Fast Forward to Best Visual Effects, please. lol
 
Al

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:58 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Goooo WETA!

 
Well, it was a pretty bad year for apes at the Oscars. "Rise" got the expected Visual FX nom but that's it. Even "Project Nim" didn't get a nomination. Andy Serkis didn't get one for Best Supporting Actor (nor did the expected Albert Brooks) but the campaign for him and the dialogue about motion capture was still historic. So "Rise" takes a backseat to the original POTA re: Oscar.
"So be it". - - - Ursus




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Group: pota Message: 67937 From: scott bosco Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis talks sequel
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I would have to say CONQUEST.  RISE will always be a cheap imitator. It's easy to look back and complain of a film's short commings, especially due to budget which isn't fair.  Today however I think we've become more laxed when we should be even more critical of newly produced films - so much more can be done in terms of production via technical advancements film's should look and sound better than ever.  But they don't.  They are mixed with too much bass, color is off terribly.  Everything looks like the same Adobe filters have been applied.  Story content and structure tries to be smart but only create more holes.  Creativity, rather original works are less and less. 
For me the entire end credit sequence in RISE seem thrown in due to bad writing and editorial placement which made it seem more of a throw away or just to make up for bad story structure.  It should have been in placed within the actual narrative.
Yeah, CONQUEST wins.
- Scott B.

From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:02 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Serkis talks sequel

 

One thing Andy Serkis has said is he saw and loved "Behind the POTA". So he knows the history of the POTA and where it's coming from.


The important thing is "have the suits at Fox seen "Behind the POTA" and do they know where it's coming from"?
 
I'm nervous about the sequel because I don't see Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver as writers with that much "gravitas," and the script for RISE clearly shows their weaknesses, though I do expect that another writer or two will be brought in -- though that may mean nothing in the end -- I still worry that no one at Fox will realize that the sequel actually needs to carry more heft than RISE.  If not, we may have the making of another BENEATH before us.
Let us all pray to the Lawgiver.


 
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Group: pota Message: 67938 From: James Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Mindhole Blowers: 20 Facts About Planet of the Apes That Might ...
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The Weekly Round-Up #111
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Planet of the Apes #10 – In this issue, we get a little better sense of the history of the conflict between the apes and the humans, and we see a little more of the shared childhood of Alaya and Sullivan. We also follow a contingent of apes who have ...
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Group: pota Message: 67939 From: jamesa1102 Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
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Welcome to the group Z. Please feel free to explore all the group's resources.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zeeboe" <Clown11182@...> wrote:
>
> Hello. I'm a 29-year old man from Texas. When I first watched the "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" trailer online last summer, I decided it was time to watch all the other "Planet of the Apes" films because I had only heard of them, but had not watched them. I watched all the Ape movies last summer, knowing nothing about them beforehand. I never saw the previews for them, I never read anything about them, and I never saw the spoofs. (Or if I did, I had forgotten them, or never understood them in the first place.)
>
> I thought the original "Planet of the Apes" was amazing. One of the greatest motion pictures ever made. It is not dated one bit. It has stood the test of time. The line "Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape" made me smile. It didn't surprise me when I got online, and discovered that this is one of the most famous movie lines ever. (I've also become a huge Charlton Heston fan since becoming a POTA fan.) I can see now why the original "Planet of the Apes" is a classic. It's become one of my favorite films of all time. The ending shocked me, and disturbed me. It gave me goosebumps. I honestly did not see that coming. I sat in shocked silence as the credits played. I really enjoyed all the other POTA pictures that followed as well, and I went into the theater watching "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" a new POTA fan and was able to catch several of the nods to the older films.
>
> I now own all five Planet of the Apes pictures on blu-ray, the live-action TV series, and the animation show on DVD, and Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes", and "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" on blu-ray, the novel by Pierre Boulle, and the four books that were based off the Planet of the Apes sequels, and several other Planet of the Apes related books, and even a Planet of the Apes t-shirt.
>
> Anyhow, I look forward to posting with everyone. I hope we can have some good discussions of the Apes films.
>

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Group: pota Message: 67940 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
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Yes- welcome!
Fave place on the net!
;-)

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:52 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Welcome to the group Z. Please feel free to explore all the group's resources.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Zeeboe" <Clown11182@...> wrote:
>
> Hello. I'm a 29-year old man from Texas. When I first watched the "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" trailer online last summer, I decided it was time to watch all the other "Planet of the Apes" films because I had only heard of them, but had not watched them. I watched all the Ape movies last summer, knowing nothing about them beforehand. I never saw the previews for them, I never read anything about them, and I never saw the spoofs. (Or if I did, I had forgotten them, or never understood them in the first place.)
>
> I thought the original "Planet of the Apes" was amazing. One of the greatest motion pictures ever made. It is not dated one bit. It has stood the test of time. The line "Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape" made me smile. It didn't surprise me when I got online, and discovered that this is one of the most famous movie lines ever. (I've also become a huge Charlton Heston fan since becoming a POTA fan.) I can see now why the original "Planet of the Apes" is a classic. It's become one of my favorite films of all time. The ending shocked me, and disturbed me. It gave me goosebumps. I honestly did not see that coming. I sat in shocked silence as the credits played. I really enjoyed all the other POTA pictures that followed as well, and I went into the theater watching "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" a new POTA fan and was able to catch several of the nods to the older films.
>
> I now own all five Planet of the Apes pictures on blu-ray, the live-action TV series, and the animation show on DVD, and Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes", and "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" on blu-ray, the novel by Pierre Boulle, and the four books that were based off the Planet of the Apes sequels, and several other Planet of the Apes related books, and even a Planet of the Apes t-shirt.
>
> Anyhow, I look forward to posting with everyone. I hope we can have some good discussions of the Apes films.
>




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Group: pota Message: 67941 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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  If you say so. Now sit in your rocking chair and watch "The Artist", you old palooka.

Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Goooo WETA!

 

I don't agree - the smart things was done.  Andy did little more than all those before him who were rotoscoped in animated films - and none of them were every really acknowleged.  The technology used in RISE was just the next step in (no pun intended) evolution of CG which really began with THE MUMMY, and Arnold Vosloo.  It has since been used in various forms with improvments from LORD OF THE RINGS, KING KONG, and AVITAR.
Been there, done that.
- Scott B.

From: Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...>
To: "pota@yahoogroups.com" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Goooo WETA!

 
The smart thing to do was to give Andy a nomination. And even if the academy isn't ready to give an Oscar for motion capture, at least the hype and the hoopla surrounding the nomination would have at least made the Oscars a bit more interesting to watch this year.
 
Now all of America and the world are headed for another boring ass Oscar night.
And believe me, it will be boring. Thank God for TIVO. Fast Forward to Best Visual Effects, please. lol
 
Al

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:58 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Goooo WETA!

 
Well, it was a pretty bad year for apes at the Oscars. "Rise" got the expected Visual FX nom but that's it. Even "Project Nim" didn't get a nomination. Andy Serkis didn't get one for Best Supporting Actor (nor did the expected Albert Brooks) but the campaign for him and the dialogue about motion capture was still historic. So "Rise" takes a backseat to the original POTA re: Oscar.
"So be it". - - - Ursus




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Group: pota Message: 67942 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Don't Oscar nominees tend to be November / December releases?
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Don't Oscar nominees tend to be November / December releases? Rise came out in August. Granted, multiple Oscar-winner Silence of the Lambs came out in January or February, but was a rare exception (or so I was told when working in Los Angeles almost a couple of decades ago). Hollywood types aren't known for their long-term memories so the "recency effect" is significant. I've not seen data on this subject but perhaps someone else has?

At any rate, Oscar ceremony viewership is reportedly on the decline. I read a couple of years ago that it's audience is comprised of mostly housewives and hairstylists.

I am still taken aback at how Rise was so thoroughly shirked according to nominations lists like this one:

http://blog.chron.com/celebritybuzz/2012/01/complete-list-of-oscar-nominations/

In other news, the Houston Astros have new ownership now. The new owners are floating around the idea of changing the team mascot. Houston's no longer considered a space city, after all. We can thank NASA's monopolistic practices for that. They're scrutinized at http://www.spaceprojects.com . And to think that Colonel George Taylor once trained here, according to some accounts...
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Group: pota Message: 67943 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Great Oscar Moments #42
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AWESOME! I had heard about this and always wanted to see it! any way any body can save it???


From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: [pota] Great Oscar Moments #42

 
At the 41st Academy Awards held in 1969, Jane Fonda presented the award for Costume Design following a swinging musical medley highlighting such nominees as "Planet of the Apes," "Oliver!" and "Romeo and Juliet."


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Group: pota Message: 67944 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Don't Oscar nominees tend to be November / December releases?
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According to this article, not only did Andy Serkis but also "TinTin (aka motion capture) Got Snubbed."
So it's not about timing but rather Motion Capture vs. Oscar Snobs. lol
 
 
Al

From: georgetaylor68 <georgetaylor68@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:13 PM
Subject: [pota] Don't Oscar nominees tend to be November / December releases?

 
Don't Oscar nominees tend to be November / December releases? Rise came out in August. Granted, multiple Oscar-winner Silence of the Lambs came out in January or February, but was a rare exception (or so I was told when working in Los Angeles almost a couple of decades ago). Hollywood types aren't known for their long-term memories so the "recency effect" is significant. I've not seen data on this subject but perhaps someone else has?

At any rate, Oscar ceremony viewership is reportedly on the decline. I read a couple of years ago that it's audience is comprised of mostly housewives and hairstylists.

I am still taken aback at how Rise was so thoroughly shirked according to nominations lists like this one:

http://blog.chron.com/celebritybuzz/2012/01/complete-list-of-oscar-nominations/

In other news, the Houston Astros have new ownership now. The new owners are floating around the idea of changing the team mascot. Houston's no longer considered a space city, after all. We can thank NASA's monopolistic practices for that. They're scrutinized at http://www.spaceprojects.com . And to think that Colonel George Taylor once trained here, according to some accounts...



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Group: pota Message: 67945 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Here Come The Brides
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was he a regular? Jacqueline Scott did at least one episode of that too!

Tim


From: Jeff Barkley <skintricks62@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:51 PM
Subject: [pota] Here Come The Brides

 
Didn't realize Buck Kartalian was on Here Come The Brides.  Julius and Urko on the same show.  The old shows and movies had so many POTA actors in them


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Group: pota Message: 67946 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: New Planet of the Apes fan here.
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Welcome Zeeboe!!

Tim


From: Zeeboe <Clown11182@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 1:51 PM
Subject: [pota] New Planet of the Apes fan here.

 
Hello. I'm a 29-year old man from Texas. When I first watched the "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" trailer online last summer, I decided it was time to watch all the other "Planet of the Apes" films because I had only heard of them, but had not watched them. I watched all the Ape movies last summer, knowing nothing about them beforehand. I never saw the previews for them, I never read anything about them, and I never saw the spoofs. (Or if I did, I had forgotten them, or never understood them in the first place.)

I thought the original "Planet of the Apes" was amazing. One of the greatest motion pictures ever made. It is not dated one bit. It has stood the test of time. The line "Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape" made me smile. It didn't surprise me when I got online, and discovered that this is one of the most famous movie lines ever. (I've also become a huge Charlton Heston fan since becoming a POTA fan.) I can see now why the original "Planet of the Apes" is a classic. It's become one of my favorite films of all time. The ending shocked me, and disturbed me. It gave me goosebumps. I honestly did not see that coming. I sat in shocked silence as the credits played. I really enjoyed all the other POTA pictures that followed as well, and I went into the theater watching "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" a new POTA fan and was able to catch several of the nods to the older films.

I now own all five Planet of the Apes pictures on blu-ray, the live-action TV series, and the animation show on DVD, and Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes", and "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" on blu-ray, the novel by Pierre Boulle, and the four books that were based off the Planet of the Apes sequels, and several other Planet of the Apes related books, and even a Planet of the Apes t-shirt.

Anyhow, I look forward to posting with everyone. I hope we can have some good discussions of the Apes films.



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Group: pota Message: 67947 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Serkis reaction
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Someone managed to snap a picture of Andy Serkis as he was learning the news this morning that he didn't get an Oscar nomination. He was with a simian friend at the time and they were getting ready to celebrate his "victory". Better luck next time, Andy.

http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com/weta_gallery/album/slides/weta15.html"
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Group: pota Message: 67948 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Here Come The Brides
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Yeah. He was in, at least, 20 episodes

On Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM, "Tim "apefan <apefan23@...> wrote:

was he a regular? Jacqueline Scott did at least one episode of that too!

Tim


From: Jeff Barkley <skintricks62@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:51 PM
Subject: [pota] Here Come The Brides

Didn't realize Buck Kartalian was on Here Come The Brides. Julius and Urko on the same show. The old shows and movies had so many POTA actors in them


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Group: pota Message: 67949 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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You are so right! It only takes one Oscar to make an "Academy Award winner". "Rise" is going to pick itself up, dust itself off, and win because that's the way "Rise" rolls.
Hear ye! Hear ye! I now designate February as WETA month. Did I say February? I meant WETAuary! And when they pick up that glittering Oscar they're going to say, "Andy, why don't you come on up here? We couldn't have done it without you". And the audience will give him a standing ovation (yes, even George Clooney). And it will be better than any darn Oscar.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:33 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Goooo WETA!






Well, it was a pretty bad year for apes at the Oscars. "Rise" got the expected Visual FX nom but that's it. Even "Project Nim" didn't get a nomination. Andy Serkis didn't get one for Best Supporting Actor (nor did the expected Albert Brooks) but the campaign for him and the dialogue about motion capture was still historic. So "Rise" takes a backseat to the original POTA re: Oscar.
"So be it". - - - Ursus




Look on the bright side... RISE could win an Oscar. That would be better than PLANET did. Remember, Chambers' Oscar was a "special" one, gotten by the kind of Oscar campaigning that only an inside Hollywood guy like Jacobs could muster.
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Group: pota Message: 67950 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/24/2012
Subject: Gregory Sierra's Birthday , 1/25/2012, 12:00 am
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Group: pota Message: 67951 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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After Clooney's joke about Charlton Heston's Alzheimers, I wish him nothing but crap in life.What kind of mixed up world is it where the non acting likes of Clooney and,in the past, Marky Mark qualify for nominations but Serkis doesn't? A total, total joke.The Academy, as usual, plays it so safe it's almost a preformance-lite line up.No Fassbender? No Swinton? Is it against the rules to act nowadays!? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> You are so right! It only takes one Oscar to make an "Academy Award winner". "Rise" is going to pick itself up, dust itself off, and win because that's the way "Rise" rolls.
> Hear ye! Hear ye! I now designate February as WETA month. Did I say February? I meant WETAuary! And when they pick up that glittering Oscar they're going to say, "Andy, why don't you come on up here? We couldn't have done it without you". And the audience will give him a standing ovation (yes, even George Clooney). And it will be better than any darn Oscar.
>
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> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:33 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Goooo WETA!
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>
> Well, it was a pretty bad year for apes at the Oscars. "Rise" got the expected Visual FX nom but that's it. Even "Project Nim" didn't get a nomination. Andy Serkis didn't get one for Best Supporting Actor (nor did the expected Albert Brooks) but the campaign for him and the dialogue about motion capture was still historic. So "Rise" takes a backseat to the original POTA re: Oscar.
> "So be it". - - - Ursus
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> Look on the bright side... RISE could win an Oscar. That would be better than PLANET did. Remember, Chambers' Oscar was a "special" one, gotten by the kind of Oscar campaigning that only an inside Hollywood guy like Jacobs could muster.
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Group: pota Message: 67952 From: A REDMAN Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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at the end of the day they cannot take away the fantastic franchise that is PLANET OF THE APES oscars or not ,but yes why andy serkis flopped out is just beyhond reason , his acting is brilliant not only as ceaser but just look at his smeagol / gollum conversation in LOTR,s he is brilliant , as for george clooney , i didnt hear about that remark but hey im sure he wouldnt of dared say it if ol chuck was still here  and as for markey mark .... well nuff said !!! its like most awards though , its not the REAL people that get to vote ..... and yes john , i want to see mr clooney ( and mr BURTON ) chased across a cornfield by the biggest badass gorillas , caught and after hours of surgery and experiment end up stuffed in the halls of the zaius museum !!!
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Group: pota Message: 67953 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/25/2012
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It's an oddity that Booth Colman only appeared in SIX episodes of the tv series--and you could argue that only 4 of those were substantial appearances.He certainly made an impact--but after episode 1 we had to wait until episode 5 to see him again! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Barkley <skintricks62@...> wrote:
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> Yeah. He was in, at least, 20 episodes
> On Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM, "Tim "apefan <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> > was he a regular? Jacqueline Scott did at least one episode of that too!
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> > Tim
> >
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> > *From:* Jeff Barkley <skintricks62@...>
> > *To:* pota@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:51 PM
> > *Subject:* [pota] Here Come The Brides
> >
> >
> > Didn't realize Buck Kartalian was on Here Come The Brides. Julius and
> > Urko on the same show. The old shows and movies had so many POTA actors in
> > them
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Group: pota Message: 67954 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: WETA's Daniel Barrett talks Oscar nomination
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   The FX company WETA has definitely had Oscar action before (they've won the FX Oscar 5 out of the last 10 years) but "Rise" is the first Oscar nod for Daniel Barrett as an FX supervisor. Here's a chat with him. The video has a look at Caesar's skull.
 
 
 An interesting thing about the nominations is that some said Andy Serkis shouldn't be nominated because it's animation, not acting. But people were surprised that "Tin Tin" (also featuring Serkis and also done by WETA) was not nominated for Best Animated Film, and some suggest a bias against motion capture from animators. So "mo-cap" seems to be neither fish nor fowl at the moment as people try to decide what it is (and what it means to their jobs).
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Group: pota Message: 67955 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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So right. Thats why I never put any stock in the Oscars even when they did something I liked. Its a club and a play it safe lame one at that. Just look at the past. Yes, I would of liked recognition for Serkis but the Academy is just silly. This technology is here and it cant get much better than the effects and performence of Serkis so their will never be an oscar for a performance in the technology and they, the Oscars have backed themselves into a corner now. To heck with them...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> After Clooney's joke about Charlton Heston's Alzheimers, I wish him nothing but crap in life.What kind of mixed up world is it where the non acting likes of Clooney and,in the past, Marky Mark qualify for nominations but Serkis doesn't? A total, total joke.The Academy, as usual, plays it so safe it's almost a preformance-lite line up.No Fassbender? No Swinton? Is it against the rules to act nowadays!? John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 67956 From: James Date: 1/25/2012
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From: William Burge
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:45 PM
Subject: ape photos

 

dear group,  I FOUND SOME NEAT APE PHOTOS. ENJOY FROM WILLIAM BURGE:) happy

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Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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You are so right! It only takes one Oscar to make an "Academy Award winner". "Rise" is going to pick itself up, dust itself off, and win because that's the way "Rise" rolls.
Hear ye! Hear ye! I now designate February as WETA month. Did I say February? I meant WETAuary! And when they pick up that glittering Oscar they're going to say, "Andy, why don't you come on up here? We couldn't have done it without you". And the audience will give him a standing ovation (yes, even George Clooney). And it will be better than any darn Oscar.



Well, here I go throwing cold water again, but don't be surprised if those HARRY POTTER SFX guys take it.  Damn those HARRY POTTER movies all to hell!
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67958 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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After Clooney's joke about Charlton Heston's Alzheimers, I wish him nothing but crap in life.What kind of mixed up world is it where the non acting likes of Clooney and,in the past, Marky Mark qualify for nominations but Serkis doesn't? A total, total joke.The Academy, as usual, plays it so safe it's almost a preformance-lite line up.No Fassbender? No Swinton? Is it against the rules to act nowadays!? John, Scrolls.



I forgive Clooney for his Heston comment, but you're right -- the Oscars are a joke.  Best this and best that.... really?!!!!
 
I share my attitude about the Oscars with Marlon Bando and George C. Scott. 
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67959 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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So right. Thats why I never put any stock in the Oscars even when they did something I liked. Its a club and a play it safe lame one at that. Just look at the past. Yes, I would of liked recognition for Serkis but the Academy is just silly. This technology is here and it cant get much better than the effects and performence of Serkis so their will never be an oscar for a performance in the technology and they, the Oscars have backed themselves into a corner now. To heck with them...John M.



One of my favorite "Old Hollywood" movie actors is Boris Karloff.  (Check out the excellent authorized biography "Boris Karloff: More Than a Monster," if you're so inclined.)  Karloff was one of the founding members of the Screen Actors Guild, and Boris Karloff HATED the Motion Picture Academy.  For me, that's enough said.
 
-- Rory 
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Group: pota Message: 67960 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/25/2012
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Someone managed to snap a picture of Andy Serkis as he was learning the news this morning that he didn't get an Oscar nomination. He was with a simian friend at the time and they were getting ready to celebrate his "victory". Better luck next time, Andy.

http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com/weta_gallery/album/slides/weta15.html"



I doubt he's personally that broken up about it.  What an Oscar nomination, and hopefully a win, means to the "talent" in the business is that the phone will ring, offers will be made, and a higher salary can be demanded and probably got.  It's not personal, it's business.  The Motion Picture Academy is primarily an organization to promote the motion picture business.  The awards were founded to create publicity for that promotion of the industry.  That's all it essentially is.  Way too much is and always has been made of it.  Most who manage to garner nominations and awards are doing quite well in the industry already -- far better than 90% of those that struggle to make it in Hollywood -- and to feel sorry for them because they don't, for this season any way, get what they want is more than a little silly.  Many "artists" have had great and memorable careers and have never gotten anywhere near an Oscar (like Roddy McDowall).  Andy Serkis is doing just fine.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67961 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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For the record, as far as I know George Clooney hasn't said anything negative about Andy Serkis. I was just taking a little jab at his monarchy as King of Hollywood and Oscar darling.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:48 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Goooo WETA!



So right. Thats why I never put any stock in the Oscars even when they did something I liked. Its a club and a play it safe lame one at that. Just look at the past. Yes, I would of liked recognition for Serkis but the Academy is just silly. This technology is here and it cant get much better than the effects and performence of Serkis so their will never be an oscar for a performance in the technology and they, the Oscars have backed themselves into a corner now. To heck with them...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> After Clooney's joke about Charlton Heston's Alzheimers, I wish him nothing but crap in life.What kind of mixed up world is it where the non acting likes of Clooney and,in the past, Marky Mark qualify for nominations but Serkis doesn't? A total, total joke.The Academy, as usual, plays it so safe it's almost a preformance-lite line up.No Fassbender? No Swinton? Is it against the rules to act nowadays!? John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 67962 From: James Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Andy Serkis Discusses The Art of Motion-Capture Acting | Screen Rant
By Sandy Schaefer
Motion-capture acting expert Andy Serkis (Lord of the Rings, Rise of the Planet of the Apes) reveals his own personal thoughts and feelings about the technology.
Screen Rant

Weta ready for more Oscar glory
Stuff.co.nz
Daniel Barrett says the nomination for his work on Rise of the Planet of the Apes is recognition of hard work and a shift in the film industry. Weta Digital is up for more Oscar glory. The ground-breaking New Zealand visual effects company has been ...
See all stories on this topic »

The Most Egregious Oscar Snubs Of 2012 | Screen Junkies
By Wookie Johnson
Andy Serkis got a ton of buzz for his work in Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Deservedly so. The master of motion capture brought Caesar to life, giving the character more complex emotions than traditional animation could ever provide that ...
Screen Junkies

 

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Group: pota Message: 67963 From: jamesa1102 Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis reaction
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At the time, many in Hollywood thought Roddy was a shoe-in for a best supporting actor Oscar for Cleopatra. Unfortunately, FOX submitted him in the best actor catagory by mistake. Of course, if he had won that award; his career may have taken a different path and he may never have been in any of the POTA films. So in the end, his loss was our gain.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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Many "artists" have had great and memorable careers and have never gotten anywhere near an Oscar (like Roddy McDowall). Andy Serkis is doing just fine.
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> -- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67964 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: THE APE OSCAR
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Hi, dear Ape Friends around the Earth!
 
Don't cry for nothing! Our Oscar is the John Chambers' Oscar! Remember?
 
PLANET OF THE APES don't need a Oscar to be an immortal story!We love PLANET OF THE APES and all his universe represent, and the another things are only details. The next movie, please!
 
Saulo Adami
Writer - From Brazil
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Group: pota Message: 67965 From: Mfx_specialprojects@yahoo.com Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: THE APE OSCAR
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Thank you, and may I say "Well said"
 
Mark Johnson Ph.D.

From: Luiz Saulo Adami <apedami@...>
To: "pota@yahoogroups.com" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:22 AM
Subject: [pota] THE APE OSCAR

 
Hi, dear Ape Friends around the Earth!
 
Don't cry for nothing! Our Oscar is the John Chambers' Oscar! Remember?
 
PLANET OF THE APES don't need a Oscar to be an immortal story!We love PLANET OF THE APES and all his universe represent, and the another things are only details. The next movie, please!
 
Saulo Adami
Writer - From Brazil


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Group: pota Message: 67966 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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what exactly did Clooney say about Heston?


From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Goooo WETA!

 
For the record, as far as I know George Clooney hasn't said anything negative about Andy Serkis. I was just taking a little jab at his monarchy as King of Hollywood and Oscar darling.

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Group: pota Message: 67967 From: William Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: complete cast and crew of planet of the apes 1968
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dear group, here is the complete list from 1968 apes film. CAST AND CREW -- AS FOLLOWS FRANKLIN J SHAFFNER- DIRECTOR WILLIAM KISSEL-ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MURRAY SCHWARTZ--2ND ASST DIRECTOR ROBERT DOUDELL 2D ASST DIRECTOR THE CAST- CHARLTON HESTON-GEORGE TAYLOR RODDY MCDOWALL-CORNELIUS KIM HUNTER-ZIRA MAURICE EVANS-DR ZAIUS JAMES WHITMORE-PRESIDENT OF THE ASSEMBLY JAMES DALY-HONORIOUS LINDA HARRISON-NOVA ROBERT GUNNER-LANDON LOU WAGNER-LUCIUS WOODROW PARFREY-MAXIMUS JEFF BURTON-DODGE BUCK KARTALIAN-JULIUS NORMAN BURTON-HUNT LEADER WRIGHT KING-DR GALEN PAUL LAMBERT-MINISTER DIANNE STANLEY-STEWART PRISCILLA BOYD-FIRST HUMAN JANE ROSS-FEMALE HUMAN FELIX SILLA-CHILD GORILLA ROBERT LOMBARDO-APE PHOTOGRAPHER ERLYNN BOTELHO-CHIMPANZEE WOMAN BILLY CURTIS HARRY MONTY FRANK DELFINO JEERY MAREN EMORY SOUZA BUDDY DOUGLAS CASS MARTIN SMOKEY ROBARDS GEORGE SASAKI DAVID CHOW NORMA JEAN KRON CHUCK FISHER JOHN QUIJADA ELDON BURKE BILL GRAEFF JOSEPH TORNATORE BOB LOMBARDO DAVE RODGERS ARMY ARCHERD LEON SHAMROY- DIRECTOR OF PHOTOGRAPHY MORE WILL COME ON 2ND PAGE ON NEXT MESSAGE.
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Group: pota Message: 67968 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
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Might this be it?

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/g/georgecloo143645.html"


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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> what exactly did Clooney say about Heston?
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Group: pota Message: 67969 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
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Heston was and still is a favorite target for the "Hollywood Left," and Heston gave them lots of ammo.  But, Heston was an adult and he knew what he was doing by being so outspoken for conservative causes.  He gave as good as he got.  Yeah, comments by some about Heston once he was sick were petty and cruel, of course, but if you want to be mad at someone, I'll tell you who you should really be mad at.... Tim Roth.  Just do some checking out of his comments over the years about Heston -- "you may not like what you find."
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67970 From: William Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: complete cast and crew of planet of the apes
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dear group, Here is the second page of the listing. cast and crew LEE CRAWFORD--ASSISTANT CAMERA IRVING ROSENBERG--CAMERA OPERATOR LEO MCCREARY--KEY GRIP FRED HALL--GAFFER BOB NEILSEN--BEST BOY LARRY PRATHER--STILLS MICHEAL WILSON--SCREENWRITER ROD SERLING--SCREENWRITER ARTHURP. JACOBS--PRODUCER MORT ABRAHAMS--ASSOCIATE PRODUCER HUGH S. FOWLER--FILM EDITOR JERRY GOLDSMITH--MUSIC ARTHUR MORTON--ORCHESTRATION JACK MARTIN SMITH--ART DIRECTOR WILLIAM CREBER--ART DIRECTOR L.B.ABBOTT--SPECIAL PHOTOGRAPHY EFFECTS ART CRUICKSHANK--SPECIAL PHOTOGRAPHY EFFECTS EMIL KOSA JR.--SPECIAL PHOTOGRAPHY EFFECTS RALPH WINEGAR--SPECIAL EFFECTS GLEN GALVIN--SPECIAL EFFECTS HARRY STEWART--SPECIAL EFFECTS WILLIAM CLOVE--SPECIAL EFFECTS MARTIN JONES--SPECIAL EFFECTS VERNE ARCHER--SPECIAL EFFECTS JOHN CHAMBERS--CREATIVE MAKEUP DESIGN BEN NYE--MAKEUP DAN STRIEPEKE--MAKEUP MARVIN WESTMORE-MAKEUP LEO LOTITO--MAKEUP HOWARD SMIT--MAKEUP JOHN ENZURELLA--MAKEUP PAUL MALCOLM--MAKEUP EDITH LINDON--HAIRSTYLING EVE NEWING--HAIRDRESSER MORTON HAACK--COSTUME DESIGN TRUMAN ELI--WARDROBE BARBARA HAROUTUNIAN--WARDROBE JOHN INTKLEHOFFER--WARDROBE WALTERM. SCOTT--SET DECORATION NORMAN ROCKETT--SET DECORATION DON GREENWOOD--PROPS PAT O,CONNER--PROPS BOB STEFFERSON--PROPS GLEN HARMON JR.--LANDSCAPE ROBERT LOMBARDI--LANDSCAPE DON NOBLES--CONSTUCTION RAY BARONE--PAINTER HERMAN LEWIS--SOUND DAVID DOCKENDORF--SOUND WILLIAM ECKHARDT--UNIT PRODUCTION MANAGER JACK HIRSHBERG--UNIT PUBILICIST ROSE STEINBERG--SCRIPT SUPERVISOR TOM PRYOR--AUDITOR JOE SCULLY--UNIT CASTING CARL JOY--ATMOSHERE CASTING. THIS IS THE COMPLETE LIST FOR THE FILM PLANET OF THE APES. FROM WILLIAM BURGE.
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Group: pota Message: 67971 From: James Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: FW: Planet of the Apes (1968) - Notes - TCM.com
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From: billburge48@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:03 AM
Subject: Planet of the Apes (1968) - Notes - TCM.com

 

Hi,

dear group, I found a great article on planet from tcm.com listing the film in 2001 with the library of congress. from william burge

I thought you'd like this:
Click here

Planet of the Apes (1968) - Notes - TCM.com
Notes about Planet of the Apes, 1968, directed by Franklin J. Schaffner, with Charlton Heston, Roddy McDowall, Kim Hunter, available from Turner Classic Movies

 

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Group: pota Message: 67972 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
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Who can forget this classic?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1iuEcu7O50


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:55 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston






Might this be it?

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/g/georgecloo143645.html"





Heston was and still is a favorite target for the "Hollywood Left," and Heston gave them lots of ammo. But, Heston was an adult and he knew what he was doing by being so outspoken for conservative causes. He gave as good as he got. Yeah, comments by some about Heston once he was sick were petty and cruel, of course, but if you want to be mad at someone, I'll tell you who you should really be mad at.... Tim Roth. Just do some checking out of his comments over the years about Heston -- "you may not like what you find."

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67973 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: THE APE OSCAR
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Listen to him. He knows what he's talking about. This guy has held John Chambers' Oscar.


From: Luiz Saulo Adami
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:22 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] THE APE OSCAR




Hi, dear Ape Friends around the Earth!

Don't cry for nothing! Our Oscar is the John Chambers' Oscar! Remember?

PLANET OF THE APES don't need a Oscar to be an immortal story!We love PLANET OF THE APES and all his universe represent, and the another things are only details. The next movie, please!

Saulo Adami
Writer - From Brazil
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Group: pota Message: 67974 From: James Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: FW: john chambers oscar
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From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: john chambers oscar

 

dear group,  Here is a photo in 1969 oscars show-- john chambers getting his award for best make-up in a motion picture PLANET OF THE APES.  also welcome new member Z from texas.  I  am from houston texas.  you can look under my photos listed williams pics  in the photo section. I  have over 2 thousands pictures. enjoy from william burge:) happy

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Group: pota Message: 67975 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Mondo posters
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Group: pota Message: 67976 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/25/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
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Just like the movies, "Battle" is the worst one.


From: Hunter Goatley
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:50 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Mondo posters



These look great!

http://io9.com/5879259/get-your-damn-dirty-paws-on-these-glorious-planet-of-the-apes-posters

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 67977 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: OT: Holy Moses!
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In the Beginning, there was the Charlton Heston performance. And it was good. And it begat many reboots.
No, Silly! I'm not talking about POTA. I'm talking about Moses. Maybe Heston's most indelible role was as Moses in "The Ten Commandments" and now the studios are hot to retell the Moses story. Actually, Biblical epics are hot right now. There's the Adam and Eve story "Paradise Lost", and the "Black Swan" director is doing an expensive "Noah" movie.
Fox and "Rise of the POTA" producer Peter Chernin wanted to do Moses but it looks like they will have to make way for Steven Spielberg, who's interested in Warner Bros.' "gritty" version. "Rise" itself was devised by the writers as a Moses story (but instead of crossing the Red Sea, Caesar crossed the Red Bridge and headed for the Red Woods) so it would be interesting for Chernin to take the actual story on as well. But I guess all roads lead to Spielberg so he probably gets first crack.
They've rebooted "The Omega Man", POTA, Moses, so I guess "Ben Hur" is next? What's the Heston movie YOU want to see rebooted?

http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/steven-spielberg-moses-movie-gods-and-kings-warner-bros/
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Group: pota Message: 67978 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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He was even snubbed in the list of snubs!
 
 
In a message dated 1/24/2012 8:23:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
Andy Serkis didn't get one for Best Supporting Actor
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Group: pota Message: 67979 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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Should have at least gotten a special technical award for first performance capture outside a volume.  I think they feel threatened by CG & PC in general.
 
 
In a message dated 1/24/2012 8:53:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:
The smart thing to do was to give Andy a nomination. And even if the academy isn't ready to give an Oscar for motion capture, at least the hype and the hoopla surrounding the nomination would have at least made the Oscars a bit more interesting to watch this year.
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Group: pota Message: 67980 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis talks sequel
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Thank you!  I actually miss the color yellow!
The Godfather, especially in the old timey scenes
had a great yellow.  Now every director seems to
want everything really dark and very blue.  The one
scene in Sweeney Todd that was in bright sunshine
was literally a breath of fresh air. I understand the choice
but it seems so over used nowadays. I'm tired of it. When
I show for TVs I look for how yellow the yellows are.
 
 
In a message dated 1/24/2012 9:40:13 A.M. Central Standard Time, digitalcinema@... writes:
They are mixed with too much bass, color is off terribly.  Everything looks like the same Adobe filters have been applied.
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Group: pota Message: 67981 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis reaction
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And they had Gary Oldman listed as a surprise nomination.
Maybe because Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy also got snubbed.
Reminds me of the Emmys nominating House for Best Series
and then snubbing Hugh Laurie for Best Actor.  Hollywood! Pbbbt!
 
In a message dated 1/24/2012 4:48:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
Someone managed to snap a picture of Andy Serkis as he was learning the news this morning that he didn't get an Oscar nomination.
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Group: pota Message: 67982 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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Or Fender Bass!
 
In a message dated 1/25/2012 3:52:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, johnroche49@... writes:
No Fassbender?
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Group: pota Message: 67983 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis reaction
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Not true! Roddy was nominated and would have won.
He was placed in the wrong category for his Octavian
in Cleopatra. He should have been in Supporting Actor.
If he had been his Oscar would have been assured.
 
 
In a message dated 1/25/2012 9:48:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
have never gotten anywhere near an Oscar (like Roddy McDowall
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Group: pota Message: 67984 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis reaction
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Glad someone else caught that as well.
His scene at the end of the film was Oscar worthy.
 
 
In a message dated 1/25/2012 10:12:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:
At the time, many in Hollywood thought Roddy was a shoe-in for a best supporting actor Oscar for Cleopatra. Unfortunately, FOX submitted him in the best actor catagory by mistake.
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Group: pota Message: 67985 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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Picture the scene.In a noisy Ape House, Maurice plonks down in a cloud of dust and hair next to a contemplative Caesar.Maurice signs 'Why Nomination Clooney?'.Casar ,in sign, gives a detailed explanation as to how the Academy often give a 'gimmee' Oscar to one of its own, an insider, just to pat him on the head when his acting career is winding down or he's dying, just to be seen as kind and caring.Caesar says, in sign 'You know, just like us scratching each other's backs when we can't do it ourselves'--Caesar snaps a symbolic twig,holding the pieces together, saying 'Hollywood and Academy stick together'.
'Academy Stupid' signs a disguted Maurice in reply.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
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> Should have at least gotten a special technical award for first performance
> capture outside a volume. I think they feel threatened by CG & PC in
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> pota1968@... writes:
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> The smart thing to do was to give Andy a nomination. And even if the
> academy isn't ready to give an Oscar for motion capture, at least the hype and
> the hoopla surrounding the nomination would have at least made the Oscars a
> bit more interesting to watch this year.
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Group: pota Message: 67986 From: dave Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
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Very nice!

Anyone looking to buy a set?

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
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> http://io9.com/5879259/get-your-damn-dirty-paws-on-these-glorious-planet-of-the-apes-posters
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> Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 67987 From: chimel23@comcast.net Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: New POTA fan
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Welcome :)

Mel
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Group: pota Message: 67988 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
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This is the best one . . .
 
"I'm certainly the last person to give advice on, well, anything."
George Clooney

Then why doesn't he keep his trap shut?
 
In a message dated 1/25/2012 11:14:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, georgetaylor68@... writes:
Might this be it?
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Group: pota Message: 67989 From: A REDMAN Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
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wow hunter they are fantastic , thanks for sharing
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Group: pota Message: 67990 From: A REDMAN Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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ha ha thats funny very clever
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Group: pota Message: 67991 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
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I've never like George Clooney. George Clooney killed Batman in "Batman and Robin." lol
Seriously though, he not only killed Batman but it was one of the worst acting performances I've ever seen. The guy would say his lines in the film then suddenly look down in almost every scene. He does it about a hundred times in the movie. I remember that used to dive me crazy. And yet they call that "Acting." What a joke. And now Oscar Nominated for Best Actor, it only goes to show that it's not about acting anymore but rather who's popular in Hollywood's-IN-Circle-Croud these days. The whole thing is a joke. And that's why the Oscars get what it deserve, The title of "Thee most boringest award show on the planet." And rightly so. 
 
Al  

 
From: "LordTZer0@..." <LordTZer0@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston

 
This is the best one . . .
 
"I'm certainly the last person to give advice on, well, anything."
George Clooney

Then why doesn't he keep his trap shut?

Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/g/georgecloo143645.htmlixzz1kXiCxHI9
 
In a message dated 1/25/2012 11:14:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, georgetaylor68@... writes:
Might this be it?


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Group: pota Message: 67992 From: jessica rotich Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Goooo WETA!
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John that is hilarious!!

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:06 AM, A REDMAN <andrewredman06@...> wrote:

ha ha thats funny very clever


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Group: pota Message: 67993 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: THE APE OSCAR
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Listen to him. He knows what he's talking about. This guy has held John Chambers' Oscar.


I don't want to diminish John Chambers' Oscar one bit -- it was well deserved -- but it's an historic fact that it was an "honorary" Oscar given after a year-long campaign by Arthur Jacobs and Fox to persuade the Academy to "grant" the honor. (It should also be noted that Jacobs and Fox were successful the year before with the Academy, doing the same kind of campaigning in order to get DOCTOR DOLITTLE a Best Picture nomination, which they did and which was highly critized at the time as undeserved.)
 
My point in bringing this up is just to remind everyone that PLANET didn't "win" an Oscar, and that if RISE does win for its FX then it will be the first APES movie to actually win an Oscar.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67994 From: James Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: FW: ape goodies
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From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:10 PM
Subject: ape goodies

 

dear group,  I  found two german lobby cards on beneath-- the last two photos- they look different than the us lobby cards. enjoy from william burge.

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Group: pota Message: 67995 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: George Clooney's quote about Charlton Heston
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Who can forget this classic?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1iuEcu7O50



Not one of Michael Moore's better moments.  Heston out classed him all the way.  I'm not "into" guns, but someone like Heston, who collected guns, when you think about it, how is it any different than being a collector of stamps?  As long as you're not shooting people with them -- unless they're actually about to assault you -- a gun collection is just a collection.  He collected guns, I collect DVDs and movie posters.  Big deal.  (Now, of course, I could mention that Heston did a better job shooting off his mouth than he ever did with a gun, but I won't do that.)
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67996 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: OT: Holy Moses!
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Wake me up when they say they're doing it with a CGI Heston.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 26, 2012 1:04 am
Subject: [pota] OT: Holy Moses!

 
In the Beginning, there was the Charlton Heston performance. And it was good. And it begat many reboots.
No, Silly! I'm not talking about POTA. I'm talking about Moses. Maybe Heston's most indelible role was as Moses in "The Ten Commandments" and now the studios are hot to retell the Moses story. Actually, Biblical epics are hot right now. There's the Adam and Eve story "Paradise Lost", and the "Black Swan" director is doing an expensive "Noah" movie.
Fox and "Rise of the POTA" producer Peter Chernin wanted to do Moses but it looks like they will have to make way for Steven Spielberg, who's interested in Warner Bros.' "gritty" version. "Rise" itself was devised by the writers as a Moses story (but instead of crossing the Red Sea, Caesar crossed the Red Bridge and headed for the Red Woods) so it would be interesting for Chernin to take the actual story on as well. But I guess all roads lead to Spielberg so he probably gets first crack.
They've rebooted "The Omega Man", POTA, Moses, so I guess "Ben Hur" is next? What's the Heston movie YOU want to see rebooted?

http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/steven-spielberg-moses-movie-gods-and-kings-warner-bros/
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Group: pota Message: 67997 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Serkis reaction
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Not true! Roddy was nominated and would have won.
He was placed in the wrong category for his Octavian
in Cleopatra. He should have been in Supporting Actor.
If he had been his Oscar would have been assured.

Through a clerical error by Fox, McDowall's name was submitted for Best Actor and was subsequently disqualified for Best Supporting Actor.  The studio publicly apologized to McDowall, but he was never nominated and as to whether he would have won -- only the Lawgiver knows.
 
It should also be noted that for many years McDowall served in several positions on the Board of Governors for the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67998 From: James Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES Mondo Poster
Collider.com
The collectible art boutique arm of the Alamo Drafthouse is responsible for some of the coolest movie posters on the planet, and they're gearing up to release five Planet of the Apes prints. The posters were created to commemorate the Alamo Drafthouse ...
See all stories on this topic »


Collider.com

No Oscar nod for Andy Serkis: master of motion-capture acting
Calgary Herald (blog)
Academy Award-winning visual effects house WETA Digital, has created a CG character -- Caesar -- of unprecedented emotion and intelligence, for RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES. Pity Andy Serkis, one of the busiest actors around and star of such ...
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Group: pota Message: 67999 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
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and they just all sold out in like 3 minutes!!


From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
To: "pota@yahoogroups.com" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:50 PM
Subject: [pota] Mondo posters



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Group: pota Message: 68000 From: mmuse@pfobrien.com Date: 1/26/2012
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And at least half of them showed up almost immediately on eBay!



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Group: pota Message: 68001 From: James Date: 1/26/2012
Subject: FW: planet items
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From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:19 PM
Subject: planet items

 

dear group,  I  found some neat photos showing on planet and a photo showing the planet  marquee at the loews beverly theatre in california. enjoy from william burge.

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Group: pota Message: 68003 From: Tim Date: 1/27/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
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Yeah, I saw that...just as I expected....damn it....

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2012, at 2:43 PM, mmuse@... wrote:

 

And at least half of them showed up almost immediately on eBay!

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Group: pota Message: 68004 From: johnroche49 Date: 1/27/2012
Subject: Re: Mondo posters
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They are beautiful paintings.Apes just keeps on happening, doesn't it?! John, Scrolls.

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Group: pota Message: 68005 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 1/27/2012
Subject: Re: FW: ape goodies [3 Attachments]
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Great!!!!

2012/1/26, James <JamesA1102@...>:
> From: William Burge
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:10 PM
> Subject: ape goodies
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>
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> dear group, I found two german lobby cards on beneath-- the last two
> photos- they look different than the us lobby cards. enjoy from william
> burge.
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Group: pota Message: 68006 From: jamesa1102 Date: 1/27/2012
Subject: The Ape
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It's friday again and that means a new issue of THE APE is now available.

To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

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