"Potability"? You mean "Planet of the Apes"bility? Why would they check the water for that if they don't know the apes rule yet?


From: georgetaylor68
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:26 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: planet photo



I don't recall that interesting scene from the movie, but thanks for sharing it with us. Might anybody know what that device might be that Dodge is utilizing? They'd already sent a signal to Earth that they'd landed, while still onboard Icarus. And they'd already checked for breathable air before blowing the hatch. Perhaps he used it to check the water for potability. I tend to doubt that it's navigation-related, since Colonel Taylor pointed them in a direction with no particular reason in mind. ("None at all."). Any thoughts? :-)

Happy Friday! The new issue of THE APE is now online.

To access THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

Also, the final chapter of Marvel's adaptation of "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" is now available in the MARVEL ARCHIVE.

To view the ARCHIVE click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm.

Have a great weekend everyone! Go Giants!

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Nomination, smomination! Andy Serkis will be handed an actual award tonight, the Virtuosos Award from the Santa Barbara Film Festival.

http://www.independent.com/news/2012/feb/02/behind-many-masks-andy-serkis/

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I started this from another thread because it was difficult to post any other way on this mobile browser. Fans (like Hunter) in this group have uncovered lots of rare POTA stuff but I have never seen this before !

To: Pota@yahoogroups.com
From: JamesA1102@...
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 14:36:31 -0500
Subject: [pota] FW: ape photos [7 Attachments]
























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From: William Burge
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 11:27 AM
Subject: ape photos
dear group, the first two photo are from the simpsons and the other photos are from different ape photos. from william burge

That would be cool and I would be your bitch for life.Gabriel is the new artist on Marvel's Secret Avengers book and his trajectory is rocketing upwards---with good cause, too.His art is 'proper', non gimmicky art and I love it! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I'll see what I can do.
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:48 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Betrayal
>
>
>
> I want a sketch! I want a sketch! I want a sketch! (To fully appreciate the sentiment, picture me on the floor, curled up, pushing myself around with my feet, using my shoulder for a pivot and screaming). John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >
> > Gabriel Hardman will be signing and sketching next Wednesday at Beach Ball Comics in Anaheim, CA.
> >
> > For full details and a sneak peek at issue 4, see here:
> >
> > <http://www.gabrielhardman.com/2012/01/finale-betrayal-of-planet-of-apes-4.html">
> >
> > Dave B
> >
>

There won't be a more deserved award this year---I glad SOMEBODY has taste!I'm struggling to recall a more boring line up than this year's Oscars.Personally,apart from RISE not getting the acting nod, I'm also a liitle peeved that the 'little Chris' effect in Captain America has been ignored.From the other nominations in visual effects,RISE is a shoe-in, isn't it? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Nomination, smomination! Andy Serkis will be handed an actual award tonight, the Virtuosos Award from the Santa Barbara Film Festival.
>
> http://www.independent.com/news/2012/feb/02/behind-many-masks-andy-serkis/
>

"Rise" is the front runner to win Best FX but the others are nothing to sneeze at. "Harry Potter", "Transformers", "Real Steel" and "Hugo".
"Harry Potter" and "Transformers" made $ 1 billion each and their studios are very grateful. Paramount is spending big on Transformers' behalf.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/transformers-to-get-big-tv-oscar-push-from-paramount-rango-also-targeting-voters/


From: johnroche49
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 2:17 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Andy Serkis gets an award tonight



There won't be a more deserved award this year---I glad SOMEBODY has taste!I'm struggling to recall a more boring line up than this year's Oscars.Personally,apart from RISE not getting the acting nod, I'm also a liitle peeved that the 'little Chris' effect in Captain America has been ignored.From the other nominations in visual effects,RISE is a shoe-in, isn't it? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Nomination, smomination! Andy Serkis will be handed an actual award tonight, the Virtuosos Award from the Santa Barbara Film Festival.
>
> http://www.independent.com/news/2012/feb/02/behind-many-masks-andy-serkis/
>

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This Tonight Show clip has been available on the group website for some time: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/tts.htm and you don't have to sit through a car commercial before seeing the clip.

 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mike R <mego73@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE2m355-JRo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
>
> I started this from another thread because it was difficult to post any other way on this mobile browser. Fans (like Hunter) in this group have uncovered lots of rare POTA stuff but I have never seen this before !
>

Everyone is pretty much expecting "Rise" to win. The FX in "Harry Potter" and "Transformers" are great, but been there, done that. "Rise" was expected to create believable apes, which is a lot harder than machines or dragons. And the Oscars have had a long love affair with WETA. They've never been wild about Harry. Plus all the Andy Serkis talk will probably make it a slam dunk (he didn't get the nomination so give the apes something). Probably "Harry" will win a token something. It's up for Best Makeup and Best Art Direction. Even "Transformers" has two sound nominations. FX is the only category to "Rise" and shine.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:10 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Andy Serkis gets an award tonight






There won't be a more deserved award this year---I glad SOMEBODY has taste!I'm struggling to recall a more boring line up than this year's Oscars.Personally,apart from RISE not getting the acting nod, I'm also a liitle peeved that the 'little Chris' effect in Captain America has been ignored.From the other nominations in visual effects,RISE is a shoe-in, isn't it? John, Scrolls.



Don't count on RISE winning the Visual Effects Award. I think the last HARRY POTTER is more likely to win, not only because it's more popular and the grand final of what most people think is a great series of films (which alludes me), but also because the FX shots in POTTER far outnumber those in RISE.
However, RISE is a significant new step in the evolution of motion capture -- but do you really think Academy voters are intellectual enough to consider that?

Hope for the best, but expect the worst. That's my motto.

-- Rory

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To paraphrase the President in Buckaroo Banzai . . .

 

"A bitch named John?"

 

 

In a message dated 2/4/2012 6:25:46 A.M. Central Standard Time, johnroche49@... writes:

That would be cool and I would be your bitch for life.

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Who do you want him to draw?


From: johnroche49
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:01 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Betrayal



That would be cool and I would be your bitch for life.Gabriel is the new artist on Marvel's Secret Avengers book and his trajectory is rocketing upwards---with good cause, too.His art is 'proper', non gimmicky art and I love it! John, Scrolls.

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Neat William! I have not seen one of these photos before!!

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 7:23 PM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

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From: William Burge
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: first costume photos 4-12-1967

dear group, I found some photos of the first costume makeup test-- dated 4-12-1967 on the backlot of the fox ranch. enjoy from william burge

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During his promotion of "Rise of the POTA", James Franco talked about how the old POTA makeup looked "campy" today and that's why CG worked better for "Rise". Well, it looks like the flying monkeys from Franco's new "Wizard of Oz" movie will be more old school, and have a distinct POTA vibe. "Oz: the Great and Powerful" is a reported $ 200 million prequel that will star Franco as the title character and is scheduled for 2013.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/53301

"The Four Great Ape Pictures and Battle". Does that mean "Battle" isn't a great Ape picture?


From: James
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 4:38 AM
To: Pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] FW: ape marathon marquee 1973 [1 Attachment]



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From: William Burge
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: ape marathon marquee 1973



dear james, I found a photo for the movie marquee section. its from march 3, 1973 at the national general warfield theatre in san francisco, california. Boy that photo brings good memories. GO APE FOR A DAY. look at that line of people waiting to get inside the theatre. enjoy from william burge

Ooops! Halloween party.


From: Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 7:05 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: OT: Franco's flying monkeys


During his promotion of "Rise of the POTA", James Franco talked about how the old POTA makeup looked "campy" today and that's why CG worked better for "Rise". Well, it looks like the flying monkeys from Franco's new "Wizard of Oz" movie will be more old school, and have a distinct POTA vibe. "Oz: the Great and Powerful" is a reported $ 200 million prequel that will star Franco as the title character and is scheduled for 2013.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/53301

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Maybe? The 'Go Ape for a Day' marathons were done to promote the premiere of Battle in 1973.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> "The Four Great Ape Pictures and Battle". Does that mean "Battle" isn't a great Ape picture?
>
>

Isn't it great that we no longer have to wait in lines, even at video rental stores, to get to view the Apes movies back-to-back?

This weekend my first, ever, Blu Ray player arrived, by the way... :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Maybe? The 'Go Ape for a Day' marathons were done to promote the
> premiere of Battle in 1973.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > "The Four Great Ape Pictures and Battle". Does that mean "Battle"
> isn't a great Ape picture?
> >
> >
>

I would do almost anything to go back to those days and those lines. I paid 75 cents to see all 5 Apes pictures back then( I was above the child ticket prices but the lady at the box office lived on my block so she let me in for the lower price instead of the $1.25 adult) and in 74. Their were lines to Burtons Ape movie and Rise at single screen movie houses. The Zeigfeild in 2001 on opening day was a sight to see. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
>
> Isn't it great that we no longer have to wait in lines, even at video rental stores, to get to view the Apes movies back-to-back?
>
> This weekend my first, ever, Blu Ray player arrived, by the way... :-)
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Maybe? The 'Go Ape for a Day' marathons were done to promote the
> > premiere of Battle in 1973.
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> > >
> > > "The Four Great Ape Pictures and Battle". Does that mean "Battle"
> > isn't a great Ape picture?
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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On Feb. 8th POTA comic book artist Gabriel Hardman will be doing a signing at my comic book store. And afterwards John Roche will be my bitch. : o


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 9:31 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Wed. Feb. 8th




On the 44th Anniversary of the World Premiere of PLANET OF THE APES on February 8th -- and that's a reminder that there were 44 POTA cards in the Topps bubble gum collection (that's somekind of minor milestone) -- there's something completely unrelated on TV you might want to check out Wednesday night, but it kind of relates.

On "Rock Center with Brian Williams," at 9PM Eastern, they will be doing a segment on the growing controversy over the continued use of chimpanzees in biomedical research. I doubt it'll be a pleasant thing to watch, but there might be a mention of how RISE has helped raise the awareness of people on this matter.

And remember PROJECT NIM comes out on DVD this week, too!

Besides, I have to stand in line at the Egyptian to see all the movies this month. So what are we talking about?


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 1:43 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: ape marathon marquee 1973






I would do almost anything to go back to those days and those lines. I paid 75 cents to see all 5 Apes pictures back then( I was above the child ticket prices but the lady at the box office lived on my block so she let me in for the lower price instead of the $1.25 adult) and in 74. Their were lines to Burtons Ape movie and Rise at single screen movie houses. The Zeigfeild in 2001 on opening day was a sight to see. Take care, John M.





Nothing lasts forever. While I, too, miss the days of neighborhood movie houses (the local bijou) and Manhattan movie places with balconies and huge lobbies, those things are just gone and, well, you just have to accept it, but I really wouldn't want to go back to the days of my childhood, when you could only see a movie when it was shown in a theatre and then gone until it was shown on TV, televised by some network or independent station -- and with 16mm pan&scan transfers. No wa. It's so nice now to practically have any movie you want at your finger tips and, now with Blu-ray and some of the restorations, looking better than they might have in their original runs. I don't even miss viewing actual 35mm film at the theatre anymore. When properly done, digital projection is great.

And at home now with the dig display devices. Did anyone else see the recent story on the "Cinemascope" LCD displays coming? Forget 16X9, now there's 23X9!

-- Rory

It's up for Best FX. If it wins, it WINS, the first time ever for a POTA movie. And it'll be for the CG that certain fans were against.
""Rise" has terrified you from the first, Doctor, it still does. You're afraid of it and you hate it. Why?"
"Movie theaters were once a paradise. CG made a desert of it, ages ago".
"That still doesn't give me the Why. A movie where apes evolved from CG? There's got to be an answer".


From: lawford42@...
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:23 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Silence is Golden"




For what?

Chris L.



"Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>>It only needs one Oscar, Chuckles. <<

Ha ha ha Jeff that's very funny...

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

It's up for Best FX. If it wins, it WINS, the first time ever for a POTA movie. And it'll be for the CG that certain fans were against.
""Rise" has terrified you from the first, Doctor, it still does. You're afraid of it and you hate it. Why?"
"Movie theaters were once a paradise. CG made a desert of it, ages ago".
"That still doesn't give me the Why. A movie where apes evolved from CG? There's got to be an answer".

From: lawford42@...
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:23 PM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Silence is Golden"

For what?

Chris L.

"Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>>It only needs one Oscar, Chuckles. <<

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Reminder from:		pota Yahoo! Group
Title:		BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES
Date:		Monday February 6, 2012
Time:		11:45 pm - 1:15 am
Location:		HBO Family
Notes:		In the fifth and final 'Apes' adventure, pacifist chimp Roddy McDowall counsels peace with human beings. But he's opposed by a militaristic gorilla.
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There was that mattress commercial featuring Apemania's Cornelius.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Terry Hoknes <hoknes@...> wrote:

Not counting movie trailers OR Mego figure ads
does anyone know of ANY tv commercials that have featured POTA in any form?
other 70's merchandise? etc?
thanks

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There was that mattress commercial featuring Apemania's Cornelius.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Terry Hoknes <hoknes@...> wrote:

 

Not counting movie trailers OR Mego figure ads
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Ah yes! That's the one...!!

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Dario <darios@...> wrote:

It was for Serta mattresses:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DqpNN5PVYY

Dario

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I remember that ad.

Does anyone know who played him,

or who did the makeup?

 

 

In a message dated 2/6/2012 11:34:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, darios@... writes:

It was for Serta mattresses:

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That answers my question.

Thanks!

 

 

In a message dated 2/6/2012 6:25:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

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Which is true. No one know what a dragon might look like.

And I seen some pretty horrendous interpretations in films.

 Everyone has seen apes at the zoos. We know what it is

and what we expect them to look like. Dragons are dreams.

 

 

In a message dated 2/4/2012 3:48:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

which is a lot harder than machines or dragons.

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Anyone we know in those shots?

 

 

In a message dated 2/4/2012 9:23:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

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There was another ad but it was a non-US commercial, and they used Apemania pullover masks. I would have to try to find that link. They had ape faces but not necessarily Planet of the Apes costumes.

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If RISE doesn't get its' Oscar, I vote we put on Ape masks and storm the town, spraying ALZ113 as we go.I want to be able to refer to OWROTPOTA after this month---Oscar Winning Rise of the Planet of the Apes.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> John Chambers' Oscar rocks but it was an honorary one. There wasn't a makeup category then.
> So it doesn't take craft, skill and imagination to do CG?
>
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The astronauts dived into a pool instead of Lake Powell while the film crew had us thinking they'd crash-landed? I visited Lake Powell out in Utah / Arizona while keeping the Forbidden Zone in mind, by the way. I had a fantastic time.
As for my screen resolution, I use an Acer 23 inch flat screen monitor that Acer CLAIMS is High Def. It's not 1080, but rather 720. Sufficient? Or just barely adequate now that I finally have Blu-Ray capabilities?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> This weekend my first, ever, Blu Ray player arrived, by the way... :-)
>
>
>
>
> Good for you!!!! (Sounds of the astronauts when they dive into the pool in PLANET)
>
> But....
>
> Do you also have a plasma or LCD display that's 1080p?
>

Well done, indeed :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Ha ha ha Jeff that's very funny...
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > It's up for Best FX. If it wins, it WINS, the first time ever for a POTA
> > movie. And it'll be for the CG that certain fans were against.
> > ""Rise" has terrified you from the first, Doctor, it still does. You're
> > afraid of it and you hate it. Why?"
> > "Movie theaters were once a paradise. CG made a desert of it, ages ago".
> > "That still doesn't give me the Why. A movie where apes evolved from CG?
> > There's got to be an answer".
> >
> > From: lawford42@...
> > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:23 PM
> >
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] Re: "Silence is Golden"
> >
> > For what?
> >
> > Chris L.
> >
> > "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
> >
> > >>It only needs one Oscar, Chuckles. <<
> >
> >
> >
>

There was DirecTV with POTA2001 (if that counts).


From: jessica rotich
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:45 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA in TV ad's



There was another ad but it was a non-US commercial, and they used Apemania pullover masks. I would have to try to find that link. They had ape faces but not necessarily Planet of the Apes costumes.

On 2/7/2012 9:17 AM, Jeff K. wrote:

> There was DirecTV with POTA2001 (if that counts).

You should know by now that POTA2001 was a horrible figment of the
imagination that never really existed. So stop scaring everybody by
bringing it up!!

Hunter

Here's the other commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YimYlpBPGiA

And...re: that Serta commercial... was the guy named Steve Johnson?

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On 1/24/2012 2:57 PM, Tim "apefan" wrote:

AWESOME! I had heard about this and always wanted to see it! any way any body can save it???

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From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>

At the 41st Academy Awards held in 1969, Jane Fonda presented the award for Costume Design following a swinging musical medley highlighting such nominees as "Planet of the Apes," "Oliver!" and "Romeo and Juliet."

http://www.oscars.org/awards/academyawards/84/moments/index42.html/b>

Wow, that was...so '60s!

You can download an MP4 of the video from here:

https://pota.goatley.com/video/1969-oscars-groovy-costumes.mp4

Hunter

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On 2/7/2012 12:25 PM, Haristas@... wrote:

 

The Lake Powell scenes in PLANET were entirely shot at Lake Powell.  Except for the process shot of the spaceship model sinking, which was shot in the second Sersen tank out at the Fox Ranch, there was no pool that the actors jumped into.

The original pool mention was a reference to the skinny-dipping scene....

Hunter

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That's the name given by Brian Penikas. Look WAAAAY back at group message #7253 from May 2001.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> Here's the other commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YimYlpBPGiA
>
> And...re: that Serta commercial... was the guy named Steve Johnson?
>
>

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Steve did the make up and costume

On Feb 7, 2012 10:26 AM, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

Here's the other commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YimYlpBPGiA

And...re: that Serta commercial... was the guy named Steve Johnson?

Fox has just announced that their "X-Men" sequel "The Wolverine" will hit 7/26/13. What does that mean for "Rise 2" also being released in the Year of Our Boulle 50th? Dunno, but of course Fox released a POTA and an "X-Men" movie last summer together. But "Wolverine" looks to be taking the late summer spot so probably that would leave "Rise 2" for earlier (May? June?). Fox also is co-financing Spielberg's big sci-fi "Robopocalypse" flick (7/3/13) but only distributes it overseas so it's kinda half theirs. And they've got the next "Die Hard" movie early in that year.
So that leaves early summer for "Rise 2" (or X-mas?) if it's coming out in 2013. Is it important there be a new POTA for the 50th anniversary of POTA itself? Yes.

The 2013 dance card is filling up. Here's how the biggies look:

"Iron Man 3" - May 3
"Pacific Rim" (a "Godzilla"-type movie) - May 10
"Star Trek 2nd" - May 17
"Fast 6" - May 24
"Lone Ranger" (Johnny Depp) - May 31
"Superman" - June 14
"Robopocalypse" - July 3
"The Wolverine" - July 26
"Smurfs 2" - Aug. 2

Where would YOU put "Rise 2"?

How far from the screen is paramount. 720 is OK if its progressive and they are most of the time. I would never buy one but when set up right they are fine. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mike R <mego73@...> wrote:
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> For a 23 inch screen, 720 is fine. Bigger screen sizes (arguably starting at 32") show the difference between 720 and 1080 more perceptively. Some say it does't make any real difference until you go over 40".
>

So have we decided what the birthday of Boulle's POTA is? I've heard tell the DVD-ROM on the 35th anniversary DVD sez May 17 but I can't access it. Does it give a reason (original publication in France?)? I have the "Time" magazine review, which came out the week after the JFK assassination so that's around when it hit in the U.S. By then Jacobs was already trying to sell the movie.
We must answer this definitively, people. There's a 50th anniversary coming up.

Can sequels win Oscars even as their predecessors did not? It seems that November and December releases get "remembered" better by Oscar evaluators...

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Fox has just announced that their "X-Men" sequel "The Wolverine" will hit 7/26/13. What does that mean for "Rise 2" also being released in the Year of Our Boulle 50th? Dunno, but of course Fox released a POTA and an "X-Men" movie last summer together. But "Wolverine" looks to be taking the late summer spot so probably that would leave "Rise 2" for earlier (May? June?). Fox also is co-financing Spielberg's big sci-fi "Robopocalypse" flick (7/3/13) but only distributes it overseas so it's kinda half theirs. And they've got the next "Die Hard" movie early in that year.
> So that leaves early summer for "Rise 2" (or X-mas?) if it's coming out in 2013. Is it important there be a new POTA for the 50th anniversary of POTA itself? Yes.
>
> The 2013 dance card is filling up. Here's how the biggies look:
>
> "Iron Man 3" - May 3
> "Pacific Rim" (a "Godzilla"-type movie) - May 10
> "Star Trek 2nd" - May 17
> "Fast 6" - May 24
> "Lone Ranger" (Johnny Depp) - May 31
> "Superman" - June 14
> "Robopocalypse" - July 3
> "The Wolverine" - July 26
> "Smurfs 2" - Aug. 2
>
> Where would YOU put "Rise 2"?
>

Thanks to all for the feedback. My screen's less than 3 years old and still under warranty so I'm glad to learn that I can hang onto it without sacrificing my upcoming Blu-Ray enjoyment of classic Apes movies.

I wonder if the 5 Classic Apes movies are being economically released in Blu Ray with those 1 or 2 revisiting movies which came out sometime after the turn of the century?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
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> How far from the screen is paramount. 720 is OK if its progressive and they are most of the time. I would never buy one but when set up right they are fine. John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mike R <mego73@> wrote:
> >
> > For a 23 inch screen, 720 is fine. Bigger screen sizes (arguably starting at 32") show the difference between 720 and 1080 more perceptively. Some say it does't make any real difference until you go over 40".
> >
>

Yes, sequels can win Oscars. "Godfather 2". "Return of the King"...
Say, how many sequels have won Best Picture? "Silence of the Lambs" (kinda).
Just those 3. And one of them had FX by WETA.


From: georgetaylor68
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:05 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: 2013: the story so far



Can sequels win Oscars even as their predecessors did not? It seems that November and December releases get "remembered" better by Oscar evaluators...

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I just noticed Austin Stoker (MacDonald in "Battle") has been added to the lineup at the Egyptian Theater "Apes" marathon Q & A, joining Eric Braeden (Hasslein), Don Murray (Breck), Linda Harrison (No-va!) and H.M. Wynant (Hoskyns in "Conquest").

http://www.americancinemathequecalendar.com/content/planet-of-the-apes-marathon

Today's the day. What character do you want him to sketch?


From: johnroche49
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:01 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Betrayal



That would be cool and I would be your bitch for life.Gabriel is the new artist on Marvel's Secret Avengers book and his trajectory is rocketing upwards---with good cause, too.His art is 'proper', non gimmicky art and I love it! John, Scrolls.

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>>John Chambers' Oscar rocks but it was an honorary one. There wasn't

a makeup category then.<<

>>So it doesn't take craft, skill and imagination to do CG?

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Here's a couple moments in the "Rise" blu-ray that reminded me of Roddy. I think either the director or Andy Serkis or the animators wanted to bring the Roddyness.

45:31 - when Caesar shakes off the blues and starts his day.

1:29:44 - when Franco yells his name and startles Caesar (right before the start of the helicopter stuff).

They also did some of the nose wrinkling that Roddy did to bring his makeup to life.

Yeah, they pressed the "Ape" button on their computer and it was done. They can't fool you.



From: lawford42@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:53 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Silence is Golden"




"Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>>John Chambers' Oscar rocks but it was an honorary one. There wasn't a makeup category then.<<

Nothing else that year would have stood a chance. Honorary or not, it's an Oscar.

>>So it doesn't take craft, skill and imagination to do CG? <<

Not any more than my ability to use a computer would make me a computer scientist. They told a computer program what to do and it did it. It takes knowledge of the software, but at the end of the day the computers did the work- quite literally taking the human element out of the equation. I mean, I went to a Bar Mitzvah once- that doesn't make me Jewish.

(semi-quoting Lisa Kudrow there BTW)


Chris L.

A nice Zaius would be perfectomundo! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Today's the day. What character do you want him to sketch?
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:01 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Betrayal
>
>
>
> That would be cool and I would be your bitch for life.Gabriel is the new artist on Marvel's Secret Avengers book and his trajectory is rocketing upwards---with good cause, too.His art is 'proper', non gimmicky art and I love it! John, Scrolls.
>

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The deleted scene of Caesar cradling Cornelia's head reminds me of the scene where Cornelius tries to reassure Zira in Escape, after she has been interrogated.Wish they'd played that up more.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's a couple moments in the "Rise" blu-ray that reminded me of Roddy. I think either the director or Andy Serkis or the animators wanted to bring the Roddyness.
>
> 45:31 - when Caesar shakes off the blues and starts his day.
>
> 1:29:44 - when Franco yells his name and startles Caesar (right before the start of the helicopter stuff).
>
> They also did some of the nose wrinkling that Roddy did to bring his makeup to life.
>

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On 2/7/2012 11:53 PM, lawford42@... wrote:

 

>>So it doesn't take craft, skill and imagination to do CG? <<

 

Not any more than my ability to use a computer would make me a computer scientist. They told a computer program what to do and it did it. It takes knowledge of the software, but at the end of the day the computers did the work- quite literally taking the human element out of the equation. I mean, I went to a Bar Mitzvah once- that doesn't make me Jewish.

Wow.  Clearly you need to get educated about how computers work and how CG art is done.  Putting aside the craft, skill, and imagination of actually producing the artwork that is later animated, how do you think that software came to be in the first place?

Hunter

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The director said they found the Cornelia stuff "too campy". They're going to have to grow a pair if they're going to go deeper into Apes mythology.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:02 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: The Roddy in "Rise"



The deleted scene of Caesar cradling Cornelia's head reminds me of the scene where Cornelius tries to reassure Zira in Escape, after she has been interrogated.Wish they'd played that up more.John, Scrolls.

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They definitely WILL have to grow a pair.The deleted scene showing Bright Eyes' mate (and Caesar's biological Dad) being gunned down as he tries to save her from the poachers would have made a wonderful echo of Caesar taking GenSys apart to save Cornelia.It would have--had they damn well used the blasted scenes!!!The film could easily have had even more emotional depth than it already does---the decision kind of reminds me of the pregnant Nova stuff---would Planet really have been the worse for including the pregnancy? All the more reason why a RISE novel could have been wonderful, fleshing out the story.Dagnammit.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> The director said they found the Cornelia stuff "too campy". They're going to have to grow a pair if they're going to go deeper into Apes mythology.
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:02 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
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> The deleted scene of Caesar cradling Cornelia's head reminds me of the scene where Cornelius tries to reassure Zira in Escape, after she has been interrogated.Wish they'd played that up more.John, Scrolls.
>

His question included the caveat "even as their predecessors did not".
Godfather took home not only a statue, but THE statue. Best 1 -2 combo
of movies ever.

Dario

On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:56:25 -0800, Jeff K. wrote:
> Yes, sequels can win Oscars. "Godfather 2". "Return of the King"...
> Say, how many sequels have won Best Picture? "Silence of the Lambs"
> (kinda).
> Just those 3. And one of them had FX by WETA.
>
> From: georgetaylor68
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:05 PM
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RISE wins no awards from alleged sci fi mag, SFX Magazine.The SFX Awards 2012 were voted for by 'fans', but, when you see that 59% of all votes cast in all categories were for Doctor Who, then you realise the SFX Awards have about the same relevance as a UN resolution.Anyway, for the record, RISE came 9th (NINTH!!??) out of 10 in both the Best Director and Best Film categories.In the Best Special Effect category, RISE effectively won, coming second to an effect from a Doctor Who tv episode (I told you these awards were relevant).Harry Pootter won best movie and Matthew Vaughan got best director for X-Men First Class.NINTH??!! NINTH???!!! What next---another Oscar for Clooney??!!! John.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> OK, so "Rise of the POTA" is up for the Oscar for Best FX. The Visual FX Society had their awards. This is like the SAG awards for actors or the Directors Guild for directors. How did "Rise" do? Well, there's a lot of awards, they get down to the nitty gritty. "Rise" won two, for best FX in an FX film and for Best FX character (Caesar). BUT, some of the Oscar competitors won some too. "Hugo" won for Best FX in a non-FX film and for "virtual cinematography", and "Transformers" won for models and environment. "Rango" swept the animation awards and is expected to win the Animated Film Oscar. Harry Potter, he flew his broom home alone. But best FX in an FX film is the biggie and "Rise" is still the front runner.
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/rango-wins-4-visual-effects-awards-hugo-apes-transformers-take-2-each/
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Yes May 17th, 1963 is the date that is given on the DVD-ROM program.

It is available on the group website. Just go to the Timeline page (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Timeline.htm) and click on 'Chonology of the Apes' on the bottom of the page.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> So have we decided what the birthday of Boulle's POTA is? I've heard tell the DVD-ROM on the 35th anniversary DVD sez May 17 but I can't access it. Does it give a reason (original publication in France?)? I have the "Time" magazine review, which came out the week after the JFK assassination so that's around when it hit in the U.S. By then Jacobs was already trying to sell the movie.
> We must answer this definitively, people. There's a 50th anniversary coming up.
>

Happy anniversary Planet.

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