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| Group: pota |
Message: 68412 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68413 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68414 |
From: Jeff Barkley |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68415 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68416 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68417 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68418 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Book 'Em, Urko! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68419 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68420 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68421 |
From: James |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68422 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Book 'Em, Urko! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68423 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Fox rakes in $ for POTA |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68424 |
From: James |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: FW: apes memories 1968- 1973 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68425 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68426 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68427 |
From: RedSpy13@aol.com |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: Check out Mark Loescher, Assault Suspect, Tells Police He's Half-Ora |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68428 |
From: James |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68429 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: Group effort Oscar? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68430 |
From: john surphlis |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68431 |
From: James |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: FW: ape items |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68432 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: POTA on Simpson's 500th episode? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68433 |
From: Dario |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA on Simpson's 500th episode? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68434 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: "Rise" DVD sales back on Target |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68435 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: Zira Evil? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68436 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68437 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68438 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68439 |
From: James |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: FW: apes drive in marquee |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68440 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68441 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68442 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: The Ape/Group Website |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68443 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68444 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68445 |
From: James |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68446 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68447 |
From: James |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: FW: planet 68 ads |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68448 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: OT: Disney's Chimpanzee.....Goodall approved! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68449 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Should Mark Ruffalo have starred in "Rise"? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68450 |
From: James |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68451 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68452 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68453 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68454 |
From: john surphlis |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68455 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Joe Letteri talks Oscars |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68456 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Tracy Morgan on the Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68457 |
From: georgetaylor68 |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Minorities "under-represented" at Oscars. How about APES??? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68458 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Damn them all to hell!!! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68459 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Oscar, NOOOOOO! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68460 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: The Oscar is dead. Long live the KING! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68461 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Tweet by andrew stanton on Twitter |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68462 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Oscar, NOOOOOO! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68463 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68464 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/27/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68465 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/27/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68466 |
From: RedSpy13@aol.com |
Date: 2/27/2012 |
| Subject: Emailing: Starlog 037 (08-1980) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68467 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68468 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Elfman Discs |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68469 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: BOOM! SHAKE,SHAKE,SHAKE THE ROOM!!! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68470 |
From: mmuse@pfobrien.com |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68471 |
From: georgetaylor68 |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Orangutans & iPads at zoos and such... |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68472 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68473 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68474 |
From: dave |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: Nim |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68475 |
From: A REDMAN |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68476 |
From: James |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: FW: rise racing car 2011 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68477 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: "Rise" of the Saturn Awards |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68478 |
From: James |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: FW: planet box office magazine 1968 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68479 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: R.I.P. "Conquest" cinematographer |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68480 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: Bruce Surtees Dead! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68481 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Bruce Surtees Dead! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68482 |
From: Luiz Saulo Adami |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Conquest" cinematographer |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68483 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" of the Saturn Awards |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68484 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: DYDD DEWI SANT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68485 |
From: James |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68486 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Bruce Surtees Dead! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68487 |
From: James |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: FW: rise marquee 2011 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68488 |
From: James |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: FW: bruce surtees |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68489 |
From: James |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: FW: box office magazine 1970 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68490 |
From: RedSpy13@aol.com |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Emailing: Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68491 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: FW: bruce surtees |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68492 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Another Zaius? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68493 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: The Ape/Marvel Archive |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68494 |
From: dave |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Journal |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68495 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: New file uploaded to pota |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68496 |
From: dave |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: The Ape/Marvel Archive |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68497 |
From: James |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: FW: planet items |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68498 |
From: John B Kirtley |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Journal |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68499 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Journal |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68500 |
From: Stuart Drucker |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Journal |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68501 |
From: dave |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Journal |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68502 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: The Ape/Marvel Archive |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68503 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68504 |
From: James |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68505 |
From: James |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: FW: rare planet photo |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68506 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Check out THE CONSPIRACY APES: DEATH OF THE PLANET OF THE APES tease |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68507 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Check out THE CONSPIRACY APES: DEATH OF THE PLANET OF THE APES t |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68508 |
From: James |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: FW: lawgiver candle |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 68509 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Check out THE CONSPIRACY APES: DEATH OF THE PLANET OF THE APES t |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68510 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: FW: lawgiver candle [1 Attachment] |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68511 |
From: lawford42@juno.com |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: FW: box office magazine 1970 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68412 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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.html Yeah, I'm glad Braeden did the role even though he wasn't "into" it. Maybe a testament to the director, Don Taylor, considered an actor's director. And I'm glad to finally get Braeden's take on it, even if it is bad news.
From: The Soft Parade
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:25 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: 10 hours of "Apes"
Since I never got to interview Braeden for POTA REVISITED, I was entertained by the remark that he was clueless and out of the loop with the genre he was performing in during his role in ESCAPE.If Braeden wasn't connecting with the dialogue he was spewing as Hasslein, he sure as hell convinced me he did. I think Braeden's performance is Escape is almost oscar worthy and is letter perfect in every way. In fact, if it wasn't for his performance as Hasslein, a great deal of the films pathos and drama might be lost. A lesser actor could have cost the films impact greatly.-JR <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68413 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
.htmlThis just jumped out at me. I'm sure you meant to type 'brother' but if he did indeed say mother can you elaborate. Thanks.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: > > Austin Stoker mentioned during filming of "Battle" the orangutans (led by Paul Williams) breaking into a Supremes song and that was the first time he saw J. Lee laugh on set. He said he was cast in "Battle" because he sounded like the previous MacDonald, Hari Rhodes. In fact he remembered seeing a photo of Rhodes out of the corner of his eye and thinking it was his own mother at first. Both MacDonalds had similar facial features.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68414 |
From: Jeff Barkley |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
.htmlAustin DID say mother.
On Feb 20, 2012 8:10 AM, "jamesa1102" < JamesA1102@...> wrote:
This just jumped out at me. I'm sure you meant to type 'brother' but if he did indeed say mother can you elaborate. Thanks.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: > > Austin Stoker mentioned during filming of "Battle" the orangutans (led by Paul Williams) breaking into a Supremes song and that was the first time he saw J. Lee laugh on set. He said he was cast in "Battle" because he sounded like the previous MacDonald, Hari Rhodes. In fact he remembered seeing a photo of Rhodes out of the corner of his eye and thinking it was his own mother at first. Both MacDonalds had similar facial features.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68415 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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No, he said "mother". He saw a picture of Hari
Rhodes and thought it was his mother at first.
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:09 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: 10 hours of "Apes"
This just jumped out at me. I'm sure you meant to
type 'brother' but if he did indeed say mother can you elaborate.
Thanks.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff
K." <veetus@...> wrote:
> > Austin Stoker mentioned during
filming of "Battle" the orangutans (led by Paul Williams) breaking into a
Supremes song and that was the first time he saw J. Lee laugh on set. He said he
was cast in "Battle" because he sounded like the previous MacDonald, Hari
Rhodes. In fact he remembered seeing a photo of Rhodes out of the corner of his
eye and thinking it was his own mother at first. Both
MacDonalds had similar facial features.
<.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68416 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
.htmlIm very surprised also at his(Braeden) retorts. He does much for alturistic causes and is a very noble man as it seems and the Apes films in general are about mans follies so I thought maybe hed be more gracious. Was he invited to do interviews for all the documentaries and if not he could be bitter.
The theater only holds 1500 seats and about 500 were filled. Even if it were filled the money going from 5 grand to 15 grand is a drop in the bucket, it still would not be a profit event. Like I said in many posts the Apes are always treated like an Uncle no one wants on Thanksgiving. All the films should be 35mm restored, played in a large classy Cinema and have some big name backing it, not nesessaraly an Apes person. If film elements cant be found(BS) then atleast a 4K presentation on disc not a 2k like POTA68s restoration(though in fairness they-IVC-did more than just a 2K retoration, atleast thats what they say).
To me Apes are never handled properly or atleast since 1974. Take care, John M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Great report Jeff. Thanks for posting.
>
> One takeaway I have is that Eric Braeden sounds like a jerk. It's like
> going to someone's birthday party and telling everyone, 'I really don't
> like the guy but only came to the party because I was promised cake'.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > The POTA marathon at the famous Egyptian Theater (2/18/12) went on for
> 10 hours, from 5 PM to 3 AM. Let's see what I can relate from my still
> foggy brain...
> >
> > First of all, it definitely wasn't a sell out. It filled the usual
> 1/3rd capacity, with a mix of die hards and newbies determined to stick
> it out. So there was still quite a few people left at the end. The
> highlight of entering the theater was Jeff Barkley dressed as Julius and
> also someone as an ANSAnaut. Certainly added an event feel to something
> with such a disappointing turnout.
> > It started off with screening a print of "Planet". They said it was a
> new print but I doubt it. I've seen "Planet" in a theater so many times,
> I enjoyed watching it but the print was nothing special. It was an
> enthusiastic audience mixed with the usual individuals who maybe enjoy
> the "camp" appeal of Heston's performance too much.
> >
> > Q & A
> > Next was the Q & A with Eric Braeden (Hasslein), Don Murray (Breck),
> H.M. Wynant (Hoskyns), Austin Stoker (MacDonald # 2) and Lou Wagner
> (Lucius), pinch hitting for the under the weather Linda Harrison.
> Obviously the idea was to have someone from each film and technically
> Lou was in "Beneath". The moderator was Steven Jay Rubin.
> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0746169/
> > Lou was asked how he got involved and said he had hazel eyes and the
> apes needed brown eyes but he was willing to wear contacts or whatever
> it took and the director liked that.
> > They were asked to talk about Arthur Jacobs and Don Murray offered he
> was an old school producer who wasn't cynical. He didn't feel Arthur was
> portrayed accurately in the Oscar-nominated movie "My Weekend With
> Marilyn".
> > Eric Braeden apologized for being a stick in the mud but he has no
> interest in science-fiction and had no interest in POTA. He was there
> for a paycheck. He prefers stories with "realism". He admitted sometimes
> he didn't even know what Hasslein was talking about but he was able to
> sell the dialogue. And he felt Hasslein had a justified view, though the
> obvious sympathy was with the apes. He also said he had no interest in
> Hollywood parties and got involved with "Escape" through one of Jacobs'
> famous ping pong tournaments. He also mentioned he had worked on Jacobs'
> ill-fated sci-fi movie "Journey of the Oceanauts" which never got made
> because Arthur died.
> > H. M. Wynant said he didn't remember the "Conquest" experience but he
> remembered the people. He compared J. Lee Thompson to Franklin Schaffner
> in terms of being "mathematical" as a director (I guess that means being
> prepared, knowing what he wants, getting the most out of it visually he
> could). He had known Don Murray long before "Conquest". In fact, he
> considered Don's father Denny Murray to be one of his mentors. He
> considers "Conquest" one of his projects that will live forever, even
> though Hoskyns wasn't one of his biggest roles.
> > Austin Stoker mentioned during filming of "Battle" the orangutans (led
> by Paul Williams) breaking into a Supremes song and that was the first
> time he saw J. Lee laugh on set. He said he was cast in "Battle" because
> he sounded like the previous MacDonald, Hari Rhodes. In fact he
> remembered seeing a photo of Rhodes out of the corner of his eye and
> thinking it was his own mother at first. Both MacDonalds had similar
> facial features.
> > Don Murray mentioned learning his Breck lines in German and saying
> them with that intonation. The different versions of "Conquest" were
> brought up and Don said from his point of view they had decided to bring
> him back in "Battle" and that's why he survived. But he had no interest
> in repeating the role, not because he didn't like it but because he had
> "done it" and once was enough. Don also said the themes of POTA are
> eternal and ones we still struggle with and that's why the films will
> live forever.
> > Lou Wagner said he studied chimps for his role and when Roddy got
> around to showing him the chimp walk Roddy had developed, it was the
> same walk Lou had developed on his own.
> > Someone asked the difference between making films then and making them
> now. Braeden said he likes modern films because there's more realism and
> even TV like Showtime, etc. is more interesting. Don Murray said the
> advantage of older movies is they didn't use CG for everything and stuff
> was real. He's not a fan of CG (though somehow no one brought up "Rise
> of the POTA").
> > It ended with them being asked about current projects. Lou said he is
> on "Raising Hope" from time to time. Don mentioned "Breathe", a movie he
> did with his sons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL8KUk76ryI . Braeden
> said he's been lucky to have worked on "The Young and the Restless" for
> 32 years.
> > They hung around a little bit for photos and autographs and then it
> was back to the movies, or more specifically, the blu-rays.
> >
> > "Beneath": looked fine on blu-ray but couldn't compare to the print I
> saw in 2007. There's something off on the "Beneath" blu ray. But newbies
> in the audience couldn't believe the ending and were wondering if this
> was the last movie. Where could they go from here?
> > "Escape": looked fine. I'd seen the blu ray screened at the Egyptian
> about a year ago. Good movie.
> > "Conquest": My favorite movie of the marathon. For starters I'd never
> seen "Conquest" (or "Battle") in a theater. Plus, in watching all 5 it
> stands out with the most unique look. It just looked great in a theater.
> They did the recently found "violent" version and of course it looks
> even bloodier on a big screen, the bloody bastards. Yeah, I can kind of
> see now why mothers were dragging their kids out of the theater at the
> Phoenix test showing. But it would have been interesting if it had been
> released back then (with a music tweak). Maybe they could've released
> both versions. The bleak ending is intensified in a theater (at least
> that's how it felt to me).
> > "Battle": Yeah, not the best movie and the audience was quiet and
> exhausted by then. But damn, the blu-ray looks good and they showed the
> long version. The movie ended just before 3 AM with Eric Greene in the
> audience going, "Let's hear it for the die hards. Now, sleep like apes!"
> And that was that.
> >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68417 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
.htmlAbsolutly. This whole fiasco is a very pernicious reaction on Braedens part. Maybe im taking it alittle to far but for an actor who had a role that was performed well and was an essential role of the Apes mythos is very peculiar. Or not? Take care, John M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, The Soft Parade <softparadeband@...> wrote:
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> Since I never got to interview Braeden for POTA REVISITED, I was entertained by the remark that he was clueless and out of the loop with the genre he was performing in during his role in ESCAPE.If Braeden wasn't connecting with the dialogue he was spewing as Hasslein, he sure as hell convinced me he did. I think Braeden's performance is Escape is almost oscar worthy and is letter perfect in every way. In fact, if it wasn't for his performance as Hasslein, a great deal of the films pathos and drama might be lost. A lesser actor could have cost the films impact greatly.-JR
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> --- On Mon, 2/20/12, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: 10 hours of "Apes"
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:36 AM
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> One takeaway I have is that Eric Braeden sounds like a jerk. It's like going to someone's birthday party and telling everyone, 'I really don't like the guy but only came to the party because I was promised cake'.
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > The POTA marathon at the famous Egyptian Theater (2/18/12) went on for 10 hours, from 5 PM to 3 AM. Let's see what I can relate from my still foggy brain...
> >
> > First of all, it definitely wasn't a sell out. It filled the usual 1/3rd capacity, with a mix of die hards and newbies determined to stick it out. So there was still quite a few people left at the end. The highlight of entering the theater was Jeff Barkley dressed as Julius and also someone as an ANSAnaut. Certainly added an event feel to something with such a disappointing turnout.
> > It started off with screening a print of "Planet". They said it was a new print but I doubt it. I've seen "Planet" in a theater so many times, I enjoyed watching it but the print was nothing special. It was an enthusiastic audience mixed with the usual individuals who maybe enjoy the "camp" appeal of Heston's performance too much.
> >
> > Q & A
> > Next was the Q & A with Eric Braeden (Hasslein), Don Murray (Breck), H.M. Wynant (Hoskyns), Austin Stoker (MacDonald # 2) and Lou Wagner (Lucius), pinch hitting for the under the weather Linda Harrison. Obviously the idea was to have someone from each film and technically Lou was in "Beneath". The moderator was Steven Jay Rubin.
> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0746169/
> > Lou was asked how he got involved and said he had hazel eyes and the apes needed brown eyes but he was willing to wear contacts or whatever it took and the director liked that.
> > They were asked to talk about Arthur Jacobs and Don Murray offered he was an old school producer who wasn't cynical. He didn't feel Arthur was portrayed accurately in the Oscar-nominated movie "My Weekend With Marilyn".
> > Eric Braeden apologized for being a stick in the mud but he has no interest in science-fiction and had no interest in POTA. He was there for a paycheck. He prefers stories with "realism". He admitted sometimes he didn't even know what Hasslein was talking about but he was able to sell the dialogue. And he felt Hasslein had a justified view, though the obvious sympathy was with the apes. He also said he had no interest in Hollywood parties and got involved with "Escape" through one of Jacobs' famous ping pong tournaments. He also mentioned he had worked on Jacobs' ill-fated sci-fi movie "Journey of the Oceanauts" which never got made because Arthur died.
> > H. M. Wynant said he didn't remember the "Conquest" experience but he remembered the people. He compared J. Lee Thompson to Franklin Schaffner in terms of being "mathematical" as a director (I guess that means being prepared, knowing what he wants, getting the most out of it visually he could). He had known Don Murray long before "Conquest". In fact, he considered Don's father Denny Murray to be one of his mentors. He considers "Conquest" one of his projects that will live forever, even though Hoskyns wasn't one of his biggest roles.
> > Austin Stoker mentioned during filming of "Battle" the orangutans (led by Paul Williams) breaking into a Supremes song and that was the first time he saw J. Lee laugh on set. He said he was cast in "Battle" because he sounded like the previous MacDonald, Hari Rhodes. In fact he remembered seeing a photo of Rhodes out of the corner of his eye and thinking it was his own mother at first. Both MacDonalds had similar facial features.
> > Don Murray mentioned learning his Breck lines in German and saying them with that intonation. The different versions of "Conquest" were brought up and Don said from his point of view they had decided to bring him back in "Battle" and that's why he survived. But he had no interest in repeating the role, not because he didn't like it but because he had "done it" and once was enough. Don also said the themes of POTA are eternal and ones we still struggle with and that's why the films will live forever.
> > Lou Wagner said he studied chimps for his role and when Roddy got around to showing him the chimp walk Roddy had developed, it was the same walk Lou had developed on his own.
> > Someone asked the difference between making films then and making them now. Braeden said he likes modern films because there's more realism and even TV like Showtime, etc. is more interesting. Don Murray said the advantage of older movies is they didn't use CG for everything and stuff was real. He's not a fan of CG (though somehow no one brought up "Rise of the POTA").
> > It ended with them being asked about current projects. Lou said he is on "Raising Hope" from time to time. Don mentioned "Breathe", a movie he did with his sons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL8KUk76ryI . Braeden said he's been lucky to have worked on "The Young and the Restless" for 32 years.
> > They hung around a little bit for photos and autographs and then it was back to the movies, or more specifically, the blu-rays.
> >
> > "Beneath": looked fine on blu-ray but couldn't compare to the print I saw in 2007. There's something off on the "Beneath" blu ray. But newbies in the audience couldn't believe the ending and were wondering if this was the last movie. Where could they go from here?
> > "Escape": looked fine. I'd seen the blu ray screened at the Egyptian about a year ago. Good movie.
> > "Conquest": My favorite movie of the marathon. For starters I'd never seen "Conquest" (or "Battle") in a theater. Plus, in watching all 5 it stands out with the most unique look. It just looked great in a theater. They did the recently found "violent" version and of course it looks even bloodier on a big screen, the bloody bastards. Yeah, I can kind of see now why mothers were dragging their kids out of the theater at the Phoenix test showing. But it would have been interesting if it had been released back then (with a music tweak). Maybe they could've released both versions. The bleak ending is intensified in a theater (at least that's how it felt to me).
> > "Battle": Yeah, not the best movie and the audience was quiet and exhausted by then. But damn, the blu-ray looks good and they showed the long version. The movie ended just before 3 AM with Eric Greene in the audience going, "Let's hear it for the die hards. Now, sleep like apes!" And that was that.
> >
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Message: 68418 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Book 'Em, Urko! |
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Due to popular request (well, Tim), here's who
signed my book. I'm not a big autograph hound (I'm kinda self-conscious asking
for them) but I started this during Eric Greene's book signings and it just grew
as I went to various events the last 15 years (yes, this is the 15th anniversary
year of Eric's book).
Planet: Charlton Heston, Roddy McDowall, Kim
Hunter, Linda Harrison, Lou Wagner, Buck Kartalian, Jerry Goldsmith, William
Creber, Mort Abrahams; makeup: John Chambers, Josephine Turner, Maurice
Stein, Howard J. Smit
Beneath: Don Pedro Colley, Jeff Corey
(mutants)
Escape: Natalie Trundy, Eric Braeden, Eric
Braeden, William Windom
Conquest: Don Murray, H.M. Wynant
Battle: Austin Stoker, Bobby Porter, Noah
Keene
TV: Ron Harper, Booth Colman, Beverly Garland,
Eileen Dietz (sister ape, "Good Seeds"), William Smith (Tolar), David Naughton
(cameo), Lee Delano (stuntman), Arnold Laven (director), Dan Streipeke
(makeup), Stan Winston (makeup), Marvin Page (casting)
POTA2001: Cary Tagowa (Krull), Rick Baker
(makeup)
Rise: Rupert Wyatt (director), Joe Letteri (FX),
Rick Jaffa & Amanda Silver (writer/producers)
ape kids: Felix Silla, Jerry Marin
authors: Eric Greene, Joe Russo, Luiz Saulo Adami,
Jerry Pournelle, David Gerrold
comics: Corinna Bechko & Gabrielle Hardman,
Barbara Kaalberg, George Tuska, Dave Dorman, Marv Wolfman, Chris
Claremont (wrote for the mag)
various: James Cameron (POTA wannabe), Terry
Hoknes, Bill Blake (stage Cornelius), Matt Stein ("Ape Has Killed Ape" band),
Harrison Zanuck, "Mitch" (introduced me to POTA), 8 members of Apemania
promoting the POTA video game, Gloria Greene
primatologists: Jane Goodall, Roger
Fouts
OK, so let's hear the autograph stories. Any body
parts?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68419 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
.html.html Cool report, Jeff.
Al
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: [pota] 10 hours of "Apes"
The POTA marathon at the famous Egyptian Theater (2/18/12) went on for 10 hours, from 5 PM to 3 AM. Let's see what I can relate from my still foggy brain... First of all, it definitely wasn't a sell out. It filled the usual 1/3rd capacity, with a mix of die hards and newbies determined to stick it out. So there was still quite a few people left at the end. The highlight of entering the theater was Jeff Barkley dressed as Julius and also someone as an ANSAnaut. Certainly added an event feel to something with such a disappointing turnout. It started off with screening a print of "Planet". They said it was a new print but I doubt it. I've seen "Planet" in a theater so many times, I enjoyed watching it but the print was nothing special. It was an enthusiastic audience mixed with the usual individuals who maybe enjoy the "camp" appeal of Heston's performance too much. Q & A
Next was the Q & A with Eric Braeden (Hasslein), Don
Murray (Breck), H.M. Wynant (Hoskyns), Austin Stoker (MacDonald # 2) and Lou Wagner (Lucius), pinch hitting for the under the weather Linda Harrison. Obviously the idea was to have someone from each film and technically Lou was in "Beneath". The moderator was Steven Jay Rubin. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0746169/ Lou was asked how he got involved and said he had hazel eyes and the apes needed brown eyes but he was willing to wear contacts or whatever it took and the director liked that. They were asked to talk about Arthur Jacobs and Don Murray offered he was an old school producer who wasn't cynical. He didn't feel Arthur was portrayed accurately in the Oscar-nominated movie "My Weekend With Marilyn".
Eric Braeden apologized for being a stick in the mud but he has no interest in science-fiction and had no interest in POTA. He was there for a paycheck. He prefers stories with "realism". He admitted sometimes he didn't even know what Hasslein
was talking about but he was able to sell the dialogue. And he felt Hasslein had a justified view, though the obvious sympathy was with the apes. He also said he had no interest in Hollywood parties and got involved with "Escape" through one of Jacobs' famous ping pong tournaments. He also mentioned he had worked on Jacobs' ill-fated sci-fi movie "Journey of the Oceanauts" which never got made because Arthur died.
H. M. Wynant said he didn't remember the "Conquest" experience but he remembered the people. He compared J. Lee Thompson to Franklin Schaffner in terms of being "mathematical" as a director (I guess that means being prepared, knowing what he wants, getting the most out of it visually he could). He had known Don Murray long before "Conquest". In fact, he considered Don's father Denny Murray to be one of his mentors. He considers "Conquest" one of his projects that will live forever, even though Hoskyns wasn't one of his biggest
roles. Austin Stoker mentioned during filming of "Battle" the orangutans (led by Paul Williams) breaking into a Supremes song and that was the first time he saw J. Lee laugh on set. He said he was cast in "Battle" because he sounded like the previous MacDonald, Hari Rhodes. In fact he remembered seeing a photo of Rhodes out of the corner of his eye and thinking it was his own mother at first. Both MacDonalds had similar facial features.
Don Murray mentioned learning his Breck lines in German and saying them with that intonation. The different versions of "Conquest" were brought up and Don said from his point of view they had decided to bring him back in "Battle" and that's why he survived. But he had no interest in repeating the role, not because he didn't like it but because he had "done it" and once was enough. Don also said the themes of POTA are eternal and ones we still struggle with and that's why the films will live forever. Lou Wagner
said he studied chimps for his role and when Roddy got around to showing him the chimp walk Roddy had developed, it was the same walk Lou had developed on his own. Someone asked the difference between making films then and making them now. Braeden said he likes modern films because there's more realism and even TV like Showtime, etc. is more interesting. Don Murray said the advantage of older movies is they didn't use CG for everything and stuff was real. He's not a fan of CG (though somehow no one brought up "Rise of the POTA"). It ended with them being asked about current projects. Lou said he is on "Raising Hope" from time to time. Don mentioned "Breathe", a movie he did with his sons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL8KUk76ryI . Braeden said he's been lucky to have worked on "The Young and the Restless" for 32 years.
They hung around a little bit for photos
and autographs and then it was back to the movies, or more specifically, the blu-rays. "Beneath": looked fine on blu-ray but couldn't compare to the print I saw in 2007. There's something off on the "Beneath" blu ray. But newbies in the audience couldn't believe the ending and were wondering if this was the last movie. Where could they go from here? "Escape": looked fine. I'd seen the blu ray screened at the Egyptian about a year ago. Good movie.
"Conquest": My favorite movie of the marathon. For starters I'd never seen "Conquest" (or "Battle") in a theater. Plus, in watching all 5 it stands out with the most unique look. It just looked great in a theater. They did the recently found "violent" version and of course it looks even bloodier on a big screen, the bloody bastards. Yeah, I can kind of see now why mothers were dragging their kids out of the theater at the Phoenix test showing. But it would have been interesting if it had been
released back then (with a music tweak). Maybe they could've released both versions. The bleak ending is intensified in a theater (at least that's how it felt to me). "Battle": Yeah, not the best movie and the audience was quiet and exhausted by then. But damn, the blu-ray looks good and they showed the long version. The movie ended just before 3 AM with Eric Greene in the audience going, "Let's hear it for the die hards. Now, sleep like apes!" And that was that. <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68420 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/20/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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No, he said "mother". He saw a picture of Hari Rhodes and thought it was his mother at first.
That Hari Rhodes was a mother....
SHUT YOUR MOUTH!
I'm just talkin' 'bout Hari Rhodes!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68421 |
From: James |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68422 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Book 'Em, Urko! |
.htmlWow. That's one helluva book you have there Jeff! A treasure given the
many who have now sadly passed away. Take good care of it.
Dario
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:06:03 -0800, Jeff K. wrote:
> Due to popular request (well, Tim), here's who signed my book. I'm
> not a big autograph hound (I'm kinda self-conscious asking for them)
> but I started this during Eric Greene's book signings and it just
> grew
> as I went to various events the last 15 years (yes, this is the 15th
> anniversary year of Eric's book).
>
> Planet: Charlton Heston, Roddy McDowall, Kim Hunter, Linda Harrison,
> Lou Wagner, Buck Kartalian, Jerry Goldsmith, William Creber, Mort
> Abrahams; makeup: John Chambers, Josephine Turner, Maurice Stein,
> Howard J. Smit
>
> Beneath: Don Pedro Colley, Jeff Corey (mutants)
>
> Escape: Natalie Trundy, Eric Braeden, Eric Braeden, William Windom
>
> Conquest: Don Murray, H.M. Wynant
>
> Battle: Austin Stoker, Bobby Porter, Noah Keene
>
> TV: Ron Harper, Booth Colman, Beverly Garland, Eileen Dietz (sister
> ape, "Good Seeds"), William Smith (Tolar), David Naughton (cameo),
> Lee
> Delano (stuntman), Arnold Laven (director), Dan Streipeke (makeup),
> Stan Winston (makeup), Marvin Page (casting)
>
> POTA2001: Cary Tagowa (Krull), Rick Baker (makeup)
>
> Rise: Rupert Wyatt (director), Joe Letteri (FX), Rick Jaffa & Amanda
> Silver (writer/producers)
>
> ape kids: Felix Silla, Jerry Marin
>
> authors: Eric Greene, Joe Russo, Luiz Saulo Adami, Jerry Pournelle,
> David Gerrold
>
> comics: Corinna Bechko & Gabrielle Hardman,
>
> various: James Cameron (POTA wannabe), Terry Hoknes, Bill Blake
> (stage Cornelius), Matt Stein ("Ape Has Killed Ape" band), Harrison
> Zanuck, "Mitch" (introduced me to POTA), 8 members of Apemania
> promoting the POTA video game, Gloria Greene
>
> primatologists: Jane Goodall, Roger Fouts
>
> OK, so let's hear the autograph stories. Any body parts?
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68423 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Fox rakes in $ for POTA |
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There were a lot less things to "geek out" on back then.
The only Star Trek was the original TV show. Star Wars
was a few years away yet. and the only Vampires or
Wizards for youngsters were Dracula and Merlin.
I was in SLC when I saw my first Apes Marathon.
In a message dated 2/18/2012 2:38:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Haristas@... writes:
When anything gets to
popular the corporate world gets on the bandwagon and after a while the
franchise of Apes, music, books, whatever gets cheapened and then the word
which I hate "Kitsch" (sp) is used and in the case of the Apes they are seen
as characatures of themselves and only the silly "See no evil etc." are
remembered and its taken lightly by the public after a while and becomes a
bad joke. I like when anything is not "too" popular things tend to have an
edge and not to many money people get their paws into the pot. John
M.
This is exactly how I feel about the era of Apedom when there
was only PLANET. It was a short period -- Feb. 1968 to May 1970 -- but
it was a time that is the core of POTA nostalgia for me, before General Ursus,
human telepathic mutants, time warps, Baby Milo, Virgil, Burke, Virdon, Galen
and a cartoon series and all that stuff that came later and you either liked
it or you didn't, but it never matched that which was
PLANET.
PLANET OF THE APES was an "A" picture that starred Charlton Heston
with a cool shock ending and the movie was already being called a
classic. It was sunny skies and hot weather, deserts and green
cornfields and a awesome beach with cliffs and the sounds of the surf,
and the talking apes, of course, and the gorillas on horseback, and
neighborhood movie houses, popcorn smell in the lobby and the
posters on display -- and it was the greatest thing since I don't know
what. I miss those days and that's why APES still has a hold on
me.
-- Rory
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Message: 68424 |
From: James |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: FW: apes memories 1968- 1973 |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: apes memories 1968- 1973
dear group, here are my ape memories from houston texas. the first photo is a planet ad from the local paper the houston post dec 1968. went to the theatre to see planet for the first time it was great. they showed a bugs bunny cartoon and about 3 film comming attractions. then the film started with the fox logo fanfare music. my most favorite scene in the film is at the end where dr zira--kim hunter says WHAT WILL HE FIND OUT THERE DOCTOR. and dr zaius--maurice evans replies HIS DESTINY--then that wonderful jerry goldsmith music cues up showing taylor and nova riding down the beach toward the statue of liberty. i liked the film so much i saw the film for a second time around. the theatre was called general cinema 1 and 2 in meyerland plaza. the theatre opened in 1965 and closed in 1995. the second photo showing the go ape title card and the
last photo is the go ape marathon marquee in 1973 california. from william burge <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68425 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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And Conquest as well.
In a message dated 2/19/2012 5:13:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:
Lou
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68426 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: Re: 10 hours of "Apes" |
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It was easier back in the day. I used to go to anime
conventions to see the new anime, but the length of
time sitting and standing, and the lack of actual new
anime stopped me from going. Can't be bothered now.
In a message dated 2/19/2012 10:20:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jessicarotich@... writes:
...so
I end up sitting like a pretzel and am very uncomfortable after 3
hours....
Jess.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68427 |
From: RedSpy13@aol.com |
Date: 2/21/2012 |
| Subject: Check out Mark Loescher, Assault Suspect, Tells Police He's Half-Ora |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68428 |
From: James |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
.html.html Google Alert - "planet of the apes" | |
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| Oscars 2012: Making a Case For 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' New York Post Thus, a good deal of the fascination derived from Rise of the Planet of the Apes
is owed to its stunning visual effects. I dare any 2011 moviegoer to claim that Caesar didn't simply look, but feel like a living, breathing entity. See all stories on this topic » |
UCI's Love Affair with Cinema : New University By Tyler Christian "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" (1972): The fourth entry in the now six-film saga of the world being controlled by highly intelligent primates that enslaved the human race also used UCI's unique architecture. If you look very closely at the ... New University |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68429 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: Group effort Oscar? |
.htmlHere we are, a few days from the Oscars (the final ballots are due in today) and Andy Serkis' lack of a nomination still stings some. Now there's the idea going around for a "collaborative performance" Oscar for performances that are a mix of actors and craftspeople. Not just motion capture but makeup and whatever else comes along. Probably the worthy performances will still be few and far between because these roles are usually just "monsters" but it's worth a think. Maybe they can call it the Andy Serkis Award. Anyway, this is a good montage of Andy's work.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68430 |
From: john surphlis |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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when i first saw casesar i thought they used a real baby ape thanks john
To: Pota@yahoogroups.com From: JamesA1102@... Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:18:28 -0500 Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Google Alert - "planet of the apes" | |
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Oscars 2012: Making a Case For 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' New York Post Thus, a good deal of the fascination derived from Rise of the Planet of the Apes is owed to its stunning visual effects. I dare any 2011 moviegoer to claim that Caesar didn't simply look, but feel like a living, breathing entity.
See all stories on this topic » | UCI's Love Affair with Cinema : New University
By Tyler Christian "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" (1972): The fourth entry in the now six-film saga of the world being controlled by highly intelligent primates that enslaved the human race also used UCI's unique architecture. If you look very closely at the ... New University |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68431 |
From: James |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: FW: ape items |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:21 AM Subject: ape items dear group, here are some cool ape photos. from william burge <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68432 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: POTA on Simpson's 500th episode? |
.html.html Did anyone catch this? The Fox website has it locked for a few more days......
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/4142472/Apey-500th-episode-Simpsons.htmlbr> <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68433 |
From: Dario |
Date: 2/22/2012 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA on Simpson's 500th episode? |
.html.html Looks like the POTA motif was just used for the opening sequence. I did not see the show but would certainly like to know if there was more POTA in the show itself.
Sent from my iPad On Feb 22, 2012, at 2:55 PM, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
Did anyone catch this? The Fox website has it locked for a few more days......
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68434 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: "Rise" DVD sales back on Target |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68435 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: Zira Evil? |
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.html Planet was on tv over here this week and, of course, I was duty bound to watch it.It's funny how it seems more 'immediate' when it's on telly.Something that has never sunk into my thick skull before is Lucius' speech about the 'ani-vivisection' people.So, there ARE Apes who oppose the use of humans for experiments and Zira, an intelligent, compassionate, chimp, chooses to experiment on humans anyway.So, is she actually as evil as some of the Committee in Escape later (earlier!?)thought? John, Scrolls. <.html
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Message: 68436 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
.htmlJust a Doctor doing her job. I know, so was Mengele in WWII, but this a little different. Got to make a living, LOL. Take care brother, John M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Planet was on tv over here this week and, of course, I was duty bound to watch it.It's funny how it seems more 'immediate' when it's on telly.Something that has never sunk into my thick skull before is Lucius' speech about the 'ani-vivisection' people.So, there ARE Apes who oppose the use of humans for experiments and Zira, an intelligent, compassionate, chimp, chooses to experiment on humans anyway.So, is she actually as evil as some of the Committee in Escape later (earlier!?)thought? John, Scrolls.
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Message: 68437 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
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That's one of the ambiguities of POTA that makes
it interesting. As they point out in "Escape", the apes are doing to humans what
modern humans do to animals. Are the people in our labs "evil"? Or maybe
more accurately, the scientists from a century ago or more when there was more
dogma? Maybe more important, Zira has a change of conscience.
"We have no proof, Hasslein, that these apes are
evil".
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:30 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Zira Evil?
Just a Doctor doing her job. I know, so was Mengele in WWII, but this a
little different. Got to make a living, LOL. Take care brother, John
M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com,
"johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
> > Planet was on tv
over here this week and, of course, I was duty bound to watch it.It's funny how
it seems more 'immediate' when it's on telly.Something that has never sunk into
my thick skull before is Lucius' speech about the 'ani-vivisection' people.So,
there ARE Apes who oppose the use of humans for experiments and Zira, an
intelligent, compassionate, chimp, chooses to experiment on humans anyway.So, is
she actually as evil as some of the Committee in Escape later
(earlier!?)thought? John, Scrolls. >
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Message: 68438 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
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That's one of the ambiguities of POTA that makes it interesting. As they point out in "Escape", the apes are doing to humans what modern humans do to animals. Are the people in our labs "evil"? Or maybe more accurately, the scientists from a century ago or more when there was more dogma? Maybe more important, Zira has a change of conscience.
"We have no proof, Hasslein, that these apes are evil".
Anyone else here seen PROJECT NIM yet? Many of the humans don't come across too well in that movie either. <.html
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Message: 68439 |
From: James |
Date: 2/23/2012 |
| Subject: FW: apes drive in marquee |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: apes drive in marquee
dear group, i found two different drive in theatre marquees on ape films. the first two photos are from the SILVER LAKE TWIN DRIVE IN in perry, new york- the marquee is on tim burtons planet of the apes 2001-- and the last photo is from the ELM ROAD DRIVE IN in warren, ohio showing the marquee for rise of the planet of the apes 2011. from william burge <.html <.html
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Message: 68440 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
.htmlWhen? Between BENEATH and ESCAPE?
In a message dated 2/23/2012 10:32:40 AM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:
> Maybe more important, Zira has a change of conscience.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68441 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
.htmlPersonally, I don't think this is an appropriate arena for discussing monsters like Mengele.
Zira's attitude to her 'subjects' is certainly one of the great ambiguities that Apes always sheds a glaring light upon.Zira continues her work in Beneath (she's there by an operating table when Brent is brought in after capture).At this point Zira is aware of several talking,thinking humans and came to love one.I think the Nova pregnancy scene is a real miss on this topic.In (some versions of!) the Marvel adaptation,Zira explains how Nova is a totally different species to Taylor---had the pregnancy scene survived, as it does in the original Marvel version, then Zira HAD to question whether the humans she was experimenting on were capable of intelligent thought and feelings--because Taylor could clearly breed with them(at Zira's behest!).The new analogy we have today is Will Rodman--he loves Caesar like a son, but blissfully experiments on Koba.If Will Rodman found a cure to AIDS or cancer, would he be morally wrong--would Zira?
This is why APES Rules--it's deep!!! John.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
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> Just a Doctor doing her job. I know, so was Mengele in WWII, but this a little different. Got to make a living, LOL. Take care brother, John M.
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
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> > Planet was on tv over here this week and, of course, I was duty bound to watch it.It's funny how it seems more 'immediate' when it's on telly.Something that has never sunk into my thick skull before is Lucius' speech about the 'ani-vivisection' people.So, there ARE Apes who oppose the use of humans for experiments and Zira, an intelligent, compassionate, chimp, chooses to experiment on humans anyway.So, is she actually as evil as some of the Committee in Escape later (earlier!?)thought? John, Scrolls.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68442 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: The Ape/Group Website |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68443 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
.htmlWhen she meets Tay-lor. She's still part of the machine in "Beneath" but she's seen the light. Perhaps she's there to change it from the inside.
From: mlccougar@...
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:45 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Zira Evil?
When? Between BENEATH and ESCAPE?
In a message dated 2/23/2012 10:32:40 AM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:
> Maybe more important, Zira has a change of conscience.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68444 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
.htmlIm not discussing him but saying his name. Lightin up my friend, Im also Jewish on my Mothers side who all came from Newcastle-upon-Tyne England and faced some harrowing times 70 years ago so dont make problems when their are none. I did not go into a diatribe about Men@@@@. Like Zira he was "Doing his job" as those creeps from long ago used as an excuse and Zira was simply doing the same. Not comparing what they did but why they did what they do.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Personally, I don't think this is an appropriate arena for discussing monsters like Mengele.
> Zira's attitude to her 'subjects' is certainly one of the great ambiguities that Apes always sheds a glaring light upon.Zira continues her work in Beneath (she's there by an operating table when Brent is brought in after capture).At this point Zira is aware of several talking,thinking humans and came to love one.I think the Nova pregnancy scene is a real miss on this topic.In (some versions of!) the Marvel adaptation,Zira explains how Nova is a totally different species to Taylor---had the pregnancy scene survived, as it does in the original Marvel version, then Zira HAD to question whether the humans she was experimenting on were capable of intelligent thought and feelings--because Taylor could clearly breed with them(at Zira's behest!).The new analogy we have today is Will Rodman--he loves Caesar like a son, but blissfully experiments on Koba.If Will Rodman found a cure to AIDS or cancer, would he be morally wrong--would Zira?
> This is why APES Rules--it's deep!!! John.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68445 |
From: James |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
.html.html Google Alert - "planet of the apes" | |
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| The Oscars' Performance Capture Problem Wired (blog) With James Franco in "Rise of the Planet of the Apes." (Image: Weta Digital/20th Century Fox) When you see Sunday's Oscar telecast, note two glaring omissions. One: The Adventures of Tintin was not nominated in the Best Animated Feature category.
See all stories on this topic » | T_T » SUPER PLANET OF THE
APES HAHAHA SUPER PLANET OF THE APES HAHAHA. SUPER PLANET OF THE APES. HAHAHA. (Source: mrhipp, via uwagoto). theravenandthesun reblogged this from ... nimpxemo.tumblr.com/post/.../super-planet-of-the-apes-hahah... |
Planet of the Apes (1968, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 2001, 2011 ... With its beginning in 1968, Planet of the Apes started an early series of movies that has now stretched over 40 years. Be it the great original movie, the fun ...
oldgamereviewer.com/.../planet-of-the-apes-1968-1970-1971-... | THE F*CKING BLACK SHEEP: Rise of the
Planet of the Apes (2011 ... THE BLACK SHEEP is an ongoing column featuring different takes on films that either the writer HATED, but that the majority of film fans LOVED, or that the ... www.joblo.com/.../the-fcking-black-sheep-rise-of-the-planet-o... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68446 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: Sacha Baron Cohen's Oscar screed for "Planet" |
.htmlThings seem to have gone smoothly for the Oscars after installing new producers and Billy Crystal. But one speed bump has been the Sacha Baron Cohen controversy. When the Academy heard he was going to walk the red carpet as "The Dictator", the title character of his new movie, they banned him from the ceremony (he is in the multi-nominated "Hugo"). In response, he has made this video. In addition to listing other indignities, he also bemoans the lack of nominations for "Planet".
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68447 |
From: James |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: FW: planet 68 ads |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:02 PM Subject: planet 68 ads dear group, here are some different planet ads from 1968 - the last three are from new york. from william burge <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68448 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 2/24/2012 |
| Subject: OT: Disney's Chimpanzee.....Goodall approved! |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68449 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: Should Mark Ruffalo have starred in "Rise"? |
.htmlSome people are under the impression that the human characters in "Rise of the POTA" are the weak link. Probably. But I don't blame the actors. It was more the roles they were given and where the director and writers chose to focuse their attention (the director said as much in his DVD commentary, that he concentrated on the ape story). The humans were written more as sign posts for the story. I think it had a good cast.
But would it have been a better movie with different actors? I guess we'll never know, but Movieline speculates in a thoughtful article that the ticket might have been Mark Ruffalo instead of James Franco in the key role of Will. I guess we'll get a chance to judge for ourselves when Ruffalo plays one of the most famous sci-fi scientists of all, the Incredible Hulk in this summer's "The Avengers".
http://www.movieline.com/2012/02/24/miscast-roles-the-case-for-mark-ruffalo-in-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/ <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68450 |
From: James |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68451 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/25/2012 |
| Subject: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
.html"Rise of the POTA" is still the frontrunner to win the Best Visual FX Oscar, despite recent momentum from "Harry Potter" (which won the BAFTA and might get rewarded for the franchise) and "Hugo" (which has history on it's side as a Best Picture Nominee, among others). It all comes down to Sunday. Just sayin'.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68452 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
.htmlAlmost all are saying that Rise deserves to win this Oscar. Let's see if the Academy does the right thing and honors Rise as it should.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: > > "Rise of the POTA" is still the frontrunner to win the Best Visual FX Oscar, despite recent momentum from "Harry Potter" (which won the BAFTA and might get rewarded for the franchise) and "Hugo" (which has history on it's side as a Best Picture Nominee, among others). It all comes down to Sunday. Just sayin'. > > http://www.awardsdaily.com/Predictions/tech.php >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68453 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
.htmlI've seen both "Hugo" and "The Artist" and I'd prefer "Hugo" to win some of the biggies (though it looks like "The Artist" is going to sweep). But in the fx category I think "Rise" was the one that really wowed people and moved the field forward (and failed at certain points; that's part of trailblazing). "Hugo" blew me away more with it's art direction.
From: jamesa1102
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:20 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
Almost all are saying that Rise deserves to win this Oscar. Let's see if the Academy does the right thing and honors Rise as it should.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> "Rise of the POTA" is still the frontrunner to win the Best Visual FX Oscar, despite recent momentum from "Harry Potter" (which won the BAFTA and might get rewarded for the franchise) and "Hugo" (which has history on it's side as a Best Picture Nominee, among others). It all comes down to Sunday. Just sayin'.
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> http://www.awardsdaily.com/Predictions/tech.php
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68454 |
From: john surphlis |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo" |
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haven't seen hugo yet but will be buying the combo pack come early march i still have dvd but hope to have blu-ray machinge by my birthday this oct. hope rise gets something i liked it only movie i saw last year. thanks john
To: pota@yahoogroups.com From: veetus@... Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:59:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [pota] Re: "Rise" vs. "Harry" vs. "Hugo"
I've seen both "Hugo" and "The Artist" and I'd prefer "Hugo" to win some of the biggies (though it looks like "The Artist" is going to sweep). But in the fx category I think "Rise" was the one that really wowed people and moved the field forward (and failed at certain points; that's part of trailblazing). "Hugo" blew me away more with it's art direction.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68455 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Joe Letteri talks Oscars |
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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: Joe Letteri talks Oscars
If "Rise of the POTA" wins tonight, it will be
Joe Letteri's personal 5th Oscar as FX supervisor for Weta Digital (he's won for
"The Two Towers", "Return of the King", "King Kong" and "Avatar"). But he
acknowledges it's tough competition and doesn't just assume he'll win: "All the
work was really good. With "Hugo", the train; and in "The Transformers", the
robots...People vote for what they see, and all the movies did
well".
His co-nominees for "Rise", Dan Lemmon, R.
Christopher White and Daniel Barrett, are all first-timers. Good luck,
gentlemen.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68456 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Tracy Morgan on the Planet of the Apes |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68457 |
From: georgetaylor68 |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Minorities "under-represented" at Oscars. How about APES??? |
.htmlHere's a new study out of the U. of Southern California which states that minorities are under-represented at the Oscars when it comes to awards recipients:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.f93648e502555ea3e976efe113d96c98.71&show_article=1
WHY DON'T THEY EXAMINE AND PREACH ABOUT HOW APES ARE UNDER-REPRESENTED in terms of Oscar recipients? To paraphrase Charlton Heston during an event of his which I attended in 1991, it's because they have no union. (He was answering a question from the audience about why cattle in Dances With Wolves were paid so little).
Seriously though, Caesar deserves recognition tonight...but won't enough of it (if any at all). :-(
___
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Here we are, a few days from the Oscars (the final ballots are due in today) and Andy Serkis' lack of a nomination still stings some. Now there's the idea going around for a "collaborative performance" Oscar for performances that are a mix of actors and craftspeople. Not just motion capture but makeup and whatever else comes along. Probably the worthy performances will still be few and far between because these roles are usually just "monsters" but it's worth a think. Maybe they can call it the Andy Serkis Award. Anyway, this is a good montage of Andy's work.
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> http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2012/02/team_effort.php
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68458 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Damn them all to hell!!! |
.html"The Academy is evil, capable of nothing by destruction"
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68459 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Oscar, NOOOOOO! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68460 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: The Oscar is dead. Long live the KING! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68461 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Tweet by andrew stanton on Twitter |
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"Alright, I was gonna stay quiet about it, but RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES was robbed. #hugolookedgreatbut..."
Hunter
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68462 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Oscar, NOOOOOO! |
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At least it lost to Hugo and not Harry Potter.
In a message dated 2/26/2012 9:02:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,
johnmermigas@... writes:
I knew it, for a moment I thought "The Help" was going to win, and ofcourse
it wasnt nominated. Very used to Ape dissapointments. After the horrible
presentation by whats her name I had a bad feeling though Stiller is an Ape
lover, to bad, John M>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68463 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/26/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Zira Evil? |
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She IS a scientist. And humans are her field.
I imagine animal psychologist would love to
get there hands on any talking animal. At
least she didn't want to still cut him up.
In a message dated 2/23/2012 9:10:25 A.M. Central Standard Time,
johnroche49@... writes:
So, is
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68464 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/27/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
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"The Academy is evil, capable of nothing by destruction"
"The only good Academy member is a dead Academy member"
And it sure as hell was a boring show!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68465 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/27/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
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No "Rise", no "Project Nim". The Academy doesn't
stand for any monkey business (except between George Clooney and Billy Crystal).
That's why it's boring.
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:35 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Damn them all to hell!!!
"The Academy is evil, capable of nothing by
destruction"
"The only good Academy member is a dead Academy
member" And it sure as hell was a
boring show!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68466 |
From: RedSpy13@aol.com |
Date: 2/27/2012 |
| Subject: Emailing: Starlog 037 (08-1980) |
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Greetings, everyone.
Attached is an article from the August 1980 issue of Starlog
Magazine, featuring a photo of Roddy as "Galen", and a cartoon of Charlton
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68467 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
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I didn't get to see the Oscars but I'd heard about it the next day...how totally boring it was.
Zach
-------Original Message-------
Date: 02/27/12 10:41:43
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Damn them all to hell!!!
"The Academy is evil, capable of nothing by destruction"
"The only good Academy member is a dead Academy member" And it sure as hell was a boring show!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68468 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Elfman Discs |
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.html I've had my 3 disc set and it's well worth ordering.It's beautifully presented, with a lovely booklet (why didn't RISE have a better package??!!) and the music is fascinating.It sounds better than I remember, possibly because it's been a while since I listened to the score.Track 17,disc 2 is wild--a bit like a score for Man From Uncle on LSD.It's an excellent set and makes me wistful for those heady, innocent days back in 2001 before we actually SAW the movie.John, Scrolls. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68469 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: BOOM! SHAKE,SHAKE,SHAKE THE ROOM!!! |
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.html Betrayal #4 from BOOM! IS BRILLIANT.It really adds to the Apes mythos seamlessly and leaves me panting for more (being a Marvelite, at least I can get more Gabriel Hardman in SECRET AVENGERS, where we ger Captains America AND Britain this month!).And the main PLANET series continues on it's awesome way with #11---this saga gets under your skin if you let it, the characters are real, vibrant and multi-dimensional.Give it a look if you've held back thus far--it's stonkingly good! John, Scrolls. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68470 |
From: mmuse@pfobrien.com |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
.htmlI have never been so disappointed with the Academy Awards, I guess we
needed Martin Scorsese in our camp.
--Mike
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68471 |
From: georgetaylor68 |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Orangutans & iPads at zoos and such... |
.htmlI wonder if this new phenomenon could play out in the rise sequel:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/apps-apes-orangutans-using-ipads-paint-video-chat-174457692.html"
One implication of it (other than mass-communication capabilities between simians) is available from this excerpt from an article on iPads and dolphins:
"The young two-year-old Merlin (not the first two-year-old to enjoy the device!) is reportedly able to use his snout to touch photos of objects on the iPad's touchscreen after being shown their real-world counterparts. "This is an easy task for a dolphin, but it is a necessary building block towards our goal of a complete language interface between humans and dolphins," said Kassewitz."
Once enough of our simian friends are watching movies and such, maybe the Oscars will stop discriminating against 'em so much ;-) Or maybe we'll see an increased demand for shows that are actually worth watching for a change. <.html
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Message: 68472 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
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Pretty much started like every Billy Crystal Academy Awards and went down
hill from there.
In a message dated 2/28/2012 5:06:24 A.M. Central Standard Time,
Zasco1957@... writes:
I didn't get to see the Oscars but I'd heard
about it the next day...how totally boring it was.
Zach
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68473 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
.htmlI delayed posting on this until the steam stopped fizzing out of my ears.What a totally, totally bollocks decision by 'The Academy'.Why don't they just call it the 'Film's too crap to win big but, as it's Marty, throw him a bone and forget integrity Oscar'? RISE was THE best special effect I have ever witnessed.The Oscars are a total joke.And they's been biased against APES for years--HOW did Jerry NOT win best score?HOW did Morton NOT win costumes? No nomination even for Rick Baker (I know he didn't want one, but I need a pattern to make my point!).A black and white silent French movie wins best picture??!! I rest my case.John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mmuse@... wrote:
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> I have never been so disappointed with the Academy Awards, I guess we
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> --Mike
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68474 |
From: dave |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: Nim |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> Anyone else here seen PROJECT NIM yet?
Watched it last night. You don't 'enjoy' a shameful movie like this but it's essential viewing IMHO. I came away thinking 1: I need to personally do something to make things better (even if it's just a donation) and 2: The shock sticks were used on the wrong creatures.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68475 |
From: A REDMAN |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
.html.html aaaach , we know how good these films are ,,,, just put em in a tin can with mr burton and send em off to space <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68476 |
From: James |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: FW: rise racing car 2011 |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:12 PM Subject: rise racing car 2011 dear group, I found something kinda neat a racing car with the rise of the planet of the apes logo on it from 2011. great photos. from william burge <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68477 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: "Rise" of the Saturn Awards |
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The awards madness continues. "Rise of the POTA"
got 5 Saturn Award nominations (half of what "Hugo" and "Harry Potter" got).
These are specifically for science fiction, fantasy and horror. "Rise" is
nominated for Best Science Fiction Film, Best Direction, Best Writing (that's
what I said, did I stutter?), Best Supporting Actor (Andy Serkis) and Best
FX.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68478 |
From: James |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: FW: planet box office magazine 1968 |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:19 PM Subject: planet box office magazine 1968
dear group, I did some research on planet and found a page from box office magazine dated april 29, 1968. the grid shows a cross section of film critics grading for planet of the apes from the northern states. kinda neat what critics were thinking about different films of 1968. also on the list is two other heston films counterpoint and will penny. enjoy from william burge <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68479 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: R.I.P. "Conquest" cinematographer |
.htmlBruce Surtees, who photographed "Conquest of the POTA", well, 40 years ago, has died. He also did a lot of Clint Eastwood flicks.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/53949
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0839732/
While we're at it, R.I.P. Davy Jones of "The Monkees". Because of their name and proximity to the POTA era it all kind of runs together. Like "Lancelot Link".
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68480 |
From: JohnM conquest-idor |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: Bruce Surtees Dead! |
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.html According to news outlets he has died of a heart attact at the age of 72. The Guardian.co.uk in Britian is where I first read it.
Its depressing to me because other than his great work with Clint he did my favorite Apes film. With a small budget and limited people he gave this film the look of grandure on the big screen and gave it a special look that NO othe Apes film has.
He was the reason my minor was cinematography. I will miss you so much. RIP Buce and say hello to your great father Robert. SAD, John M. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68481 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 2/29/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Bruce Surtees Dead! |
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From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:07 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Bruce Surtees Dead!
According to news outlets he has died of a heart attact at the age of 72. The Guardian.co.uk in Britian is where I first read it.
Its depressing to me because other than his great work with Clint he did my favorite Apes film. With a small budget and limited people he gave this film the look of grandure on the big screen and gave it a special look that NO othe Apes film has.
He was the reason my minor was cinematography. I will miss you so much. RIP Buce and say hello to your great father Robert. SAD, John M. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68482 |
From: Luiz Saulo Adami |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Conquest" cinematographer |
.html.html R.I.P., Bruce Surtees!
CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (1972) is my favorite Ape movie, and your cinematography is fantastic!
Saulo Adami From Brazil
De:
Jeff K. <veetus@...>
Para: pota@yahoogroups.com Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 29 de Fevereiro de 2012 23:40 Assunto: [pota] R.I.P. "Conquest" cinematographer
Bruce Surtees, who photographed "Conquest of the POTA", well, 40 years ago, has died. He also did a lot of Clint Eastwood flicks.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/53949
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0839732/
While we're at it, R.I.P. Davy Jones of "The Monkees". Because of their name and proximity to the POTA era it all kind of runs together. Like "Lancelot Link".
But I shouldn't use the word "Monkee".
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68483 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: Re: "Rise" of the Saturn Awards |
.htmlIf RISE doesn't clean up at the Sturns, the world really will have turned upside down.It's the best science fiction movie since 1973.John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> The awards madness continues. "Rise of the POTA" got 5 Saturn Award nominations (half of what "Hugo" and "Harry Potter" got). These are specifically for science fiction, fantasy and horror. "Rise" is nominated for Best Science Fiction Film, Best Direction, Best Writing (that's what I said, did I stutter?), Best Supporting Actor (Andy Serkis) and Best FX.
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> http://collider.com/saturn-award-nominations-2012/148931/
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68484 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: DYDD DEWI SANT |
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.html Don't know if this is the first Welsh used on the Group, but today is St David's Day, the Patron Saint of Wales.It doesn't have the cache of St Pat's,but we all wear leeks and daffodils and laugh at how Wales beat England in the rugby.Sheep remain unmolested for 24 hours.I'm pretty certain Urko's wife was Welsh, so there's the Apes connection.Happy St David's Day to one and all!!! Apart from any members of the Academy.John, Scrolls. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68485 |
From: James |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68486 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Bruce Surtees Dead! |
.htmlIt has been a sad few weeks for POTA fans. I'm sure everyone's thoughts and prayers go out to his family.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote: > > According to news outlets he has died of a heart attact at the age of 72. The Guardian.co.uk in Britian is where I first read it. > > Its depressing to me because other than his great work with Clint he did my favorite Apes film. With a small budget and limited people he gave this film the look of grandure on the big screen and gave it a special look that NO othe Apes film has. > > He was the reason my minor was cinematography. I will miss you so much. RIP Buce and say hello to your great father Robert. SAD, John M. >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68487 |
From: James |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: FW: rise marquee 2011 |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: rise marquee 2011 dear group, I found a photo showing the rise marquee 2011 at the TIVOLI THEATRE in downers grove, illinois. I think its a cool photo of the theatre. from william burge <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68488 |
From: James |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: FW: bruce surtees |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:06 AM Subject: bruce surtees dear group, I found a 1972 florida theatre ad for conquest in tribute to the great bruce surtees . thats why conquest looked great during roddy mcdowalls speech at the end of the film with the fire of the building behide him-- great footage. from william burge <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68489 |
From: James |
Date: 3/1/2012 |
| Subject: FW: box office magazine 1970 |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 12:53 PM Subject: box office magazine 1970 dear group, here is an article in the box office magazine dated june 22, 1970-- the write up is about beneath the planet of the apes opening. from william burge <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68490 |
From: RedSpy13@aol.com |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Emailing: Apes |
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Greetings, all.
Attached is an article from the April 1981 issues of Starlog
Magazine about the syndication of the Apes TV series.
Enjoy!
Jeff (RedSpy)
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68491 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: FW: bruce surtees |
.htmlThey've currently got a Clint season on over here and I watched Pale Rider again last night---glorious work by Surtees and the sort of landscape vistas they just don't do in today's CGI world.John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> From: William Burge
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:06 AM
> Subject: bruce surtees
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> dear group, I found a 1972 florida theatre ad for conquest in tribute to
> the great bruce surtees . thats why conquest looked great during roddy
> mcdowalls speech at the end of the film with the fire of the building behide
> him-- great footage. from william burge
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68492 |
From: johnroche49 |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Another Zaius? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68493 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: The Ape/Marvel Archive |
.htmlHappy Friday! This week's issue of THE APE is now online. Special thanks to Glen Scheetz, Brian Penkis and the folks at Apemania for their contribution to this issue.
To view THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.
The MARVEL ARCHIVE hits the homestretch with Part 1 of Marvel's adaptation of "Battle for the Planet of the Apes".
To access the ARCHIVE click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm.
Have a great weekend everybody!
Visit all the Group's special features including:
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68494 |
From: dave |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Journal |
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.html Dear All,
I've uploaded a PDF into the files section but before you go and look
a word.
`Journal' is the result of an experiment, something short and simple to allow me to test new (to me) techniques to see if I could tell a story. It's made from a cocktail of my own basic hand drawings, Photoshop enhanced hand drawings, tracings, paintings, cuttings and all manner of other elements. The reference material came from wherever I happened to find it.
Like I said, the idea was to see if what I had in mind was practical - and now I know it is maybe I can think about something longer and more ambitious.
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Dave B <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68495 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: New file uploaded to pota |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68496 |
From: dave |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: The Ape/Marvel Archive |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68497 |
From: James |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: FW: planet items |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68498 |
From: John B Kirtley |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Journal |
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I love it. Great stuff
John
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 1:14 PM
Subject: [pota] Journal
Dear All,
I've uploaded a PDF into the files section but before you go
and look
a word.
`Journal' is the result of an experiment, something
short and simple to allow me to test new (to me) techniques to see if I could
tell a story. It's made from a cocktail of my own basic hand drawings, Photoshop
enhanced hand drawings, tracings, paintings, cuttings and all manner of other
elements. The reference material came from wherever I happened to find
it.
Like I said, the idea was to see if what I had in mind was practical
- and now I know it is maybe I can think about something longer and more
ambitious.
Hope you like it, Dave B
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68499 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Journal |
.htmlGreat job Dave! Thanks for sharing.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote: > > Dear All, > > I've uploaded a PDF into the files section but before you go and look
a word. > > `Journal' is the result of an experiment, something short and simple to allow me to test new (to me) techniques to see if I could tell a story. It's made from a cocktail of my own basic hand drawings, Photoshop enhanced hand drawings, tracings, paintings, cuttings and all manner of other elements. The reference material came from wherever I happened to find it. > > Like I said, the idea was to see if what I had in mind was practical - and now I know it is maybe I can think about something longer and more ambitious. > > Hope you like it, > Dave B >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68500 |
From: Stuart Drucker |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Journal |
.html.html Minor nitpick: your POV character would use American rather British-style spelling of 'color'. But other than that, you wrote an intense piece that takes us into his mind very realistically.
Sent from my iPad
Great job Dave! Thanks for sharing.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote: > > Dear All, > > I've uploaded a PDF into the files section but before you go and look… a word. > > `Journal' is the result of an experiment, something short and simple to allow me to test new (to me) techniques to see if I could tell a story. It's made from a cocktail of my own basic hand drawings, Photoshop enhanced hand drawings, tracings, paintings, cuttings and all manner of other elements. The reference material came from wherever I happened to find it. > > Like I said, the idea was to see if what I had in mind was practical - and now I know it is maybe I can think about something longer and more ambitious. > > Hope you like it, > Dave B >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68501 |
From: dave |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Journal |
.htmlMinor but valid.
Thanks Stuart, I'll set that right in a future revision.
Dave
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Drucker <sdrucker@...> wrote:
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> Minor nitpick: your POV character would use American rather British-style spelling of 'color'. But other than that, you wrote an intense piece that takes us into his mind very realistically.
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Mar 2, 2012, at 9:10 AM, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> > Great job Dave! Thanks for sharing.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > I've uploaded a PDF into the files section but before you go and look⦠a word.
> > >
> > > `Journal' is the result of an experiment, something short and simple to allow me to test new (to me) techniques to see if I could tell a story. It's made from a cocktail of my own basic hand drawings, Photoshop enhanced hand drawings, tracings, paintings, cuttings and all manner of other elements. The reference material came from wherever I happened to find it.
> > >
> > > Like I said, the idea was to see if what I had in mind was practical - and now I know it is maybe I can think about something longer and more ambitious.
> > >
> > > Hope you like it,
> > > Dave B
> > >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68502 |
From: Bill Hollweg |
Date: 3/2/2012 |
| Subject: Re: The Ape/Marvel Archive |
.htmlYou guys ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bill Hollweg Have Sword... Will Slay... Barbarian in need of Ale... Check out my Audio Drama Productions- Bill Hollweg Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM! http://brokensea.com/
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68503 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Damn them all to hell!!! |
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Happens nearly every year. And I'll say it again, it lessens
the achievement of the Oscar winners who deserved their
awards. When Kim won her's, every member of the cast
also won in a near sweep, with the exception of Marlon
Brando. Everyone agreed, he gave a game changing
performance. But, Borgart gave a great performance
as well, and it was "His Turn" for losing the Oscar
for Casablanca. And he was right to boycott it.
I respect him and George C. Scott for doing it.
In a message dated 2/29/2012 4:44:44 A.M. Central Standard Time,
johnroche49@... writes:
Why
don't they just call it the 'Film's too crap to win big but, as it's Marty,
throw him a bone and forget integrity Oscar'?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68504 |
From: James |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68505 |
From: James |
Date: 3/3/2012 |
| Subject: FW: rare planet photo |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 2:46 PM Subject: rare planet photo dear group, I found a rare planet photo showing heston as taylor and the first man is david chow was a ape and the other women i dont know was a female ape . I have never seen this photo before. from william burge <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68506 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Check out THE CONSPIRACY APES: DEATH OF THE PLANET OF THE APES tease |
| Group: pota |
Message: 68507 |
From: zasco1957 |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Check out THE CONSPIRACY APES: DEATH OF THE PLANET OF THE APES t |
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I wouldn't mind having a copy of this when it's released!
Zach
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68508 |
From: James |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: FW: lawgiver candle |
.html.html From: William Burge Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:19 PM Subject: lawgiver candle dear group, I found a photo showing the lawgiver and the writing of the sixth scroll from planet . I think its real neat item. from william burge <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68509 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: Check out THE CONSPIRACY APES: DEATH OF THE PLANET OF THE APES t |
.htmlThanks for the link Mike! --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote: > > <A > HREF="http://theconspiracyapes.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/death-of-planet-of-apes-teased.htmlquot;>Click here: THE CONSPIRACY APES: DEATH OF THE PLANET OF > THE APES teased!</A> </HTML> >
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68510 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: FW: lawgiver candle [1 Attachment] |
.html.html I want that~!! Any idea where it was available?? Tim
From: James <JamesA1102@...> To: Pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 10:26 AM Subject: [pota] FW: lawgiver candle [1 Attachment]
From: William Burge Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:19 PM Subject: lawgiver candle dear group, I found a photo showing the lawgiver and the writing of the sixth scroll from planet . I think its real neat item. from william burge
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| Group: pota |
Message: 68511 |
From: lawford42@juno.com |
Date: 3/4/2012 |
| Subject: Re: FW: box office magazine 1970 |
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Any way to post this in the Files section so the article text could be
read?
Chris L.
"dear group, here is an article in the box office magazine dated june
22, 1970-- the write up is about beneath the planet of the apes opening.
from william burge"
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