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From one James to another, happy birthday!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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> Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal
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> James Sikking's Birthday
> Monday March 5, 2012
> All Day
> (This event repeats every year.)
>
> Notes:
> Marine Captain in Escape.
>

The full size version is available in the group's Photos section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/1243400961/pic/1564782205/view?picmode=original&mode=tn&order=mtime&start=1&dir=desc

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, lawford42@... wrote:
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> Any way to post this in the Files section so the article text could be
> read?
>
> Chris L.
>
>

That makes two "Hill St. Blues" folks in POTA (Michael Conrad was on the TV show).
And two from "Barney Miller" (Gregory Sierra and James Gregory in "Beneath").
Classic cop shows.


From: jamesa1102
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 6:26 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: James Sikking's Birthday




From one James to another, happy birthday!

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> Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group
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>
> Notes:
> Marine Captain in Escape.
>

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A lawgiver candle?

Where can I get mine?

 

 

In a message dated 3/4/2012 9:29:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

 

From: William Burge
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:19 PM
Subject: lawgiver candle

dear group,  I found a photo showing the lawgiver and the writing of the sixth scroll from planet .  I think its real neat item.  from william burge

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It was sold out the first announcement a few years ago. Ebay would be your best bet. The artist said he didn't even get to keep any candles. A pair would have been great flanking my nativity set...you know...for that ultimate sacrilege.

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:55 AM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

A lawgiver candle?

Where can I get mine?

In a message dated 3/4/2012 9:29:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

From: William Burge
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:19 PM
Subject: lawgiver candle

dear group, I found a photo showing the lawgiver and the writing of the sixth scroll from planet . I think its real neat item. from william burge

Here's some more info:

These were produced by mondotees.com. Mike Saputo was only the artist, they contracted him to do the art. They were an in store item only. If you are familiar with them, their stuff sells out really fast. He said to try Ebay.

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:12 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

It was sold out the first announcement a few years ago. Ebay would be your best bet. The artist said he didn't even get to keep any candles. A pair would have been great flanking my nativity set...you know...for that ultimate sacrilege.

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:55 AM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

A lawgiver candle?

Where can I get mine?

In a message dated 3/4/2012 9:29:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

From: William Burge
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:19 PM
Subject: lawgiver candle

dear group, I found a photo showing the lawgiver and the writing of the sixth scroll from planet . I think its real neat item. from william burge

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It's come to my attention that some would like "Rise of the POTA" action figures pronto but Fox seems in no hurry. I'm here to help.

CAESAR: Just use your Mego Cornelius or Galen figure. Pretend it's the sequel and the apes have started wearing clothes. We know "Rise" is a prequel and Caesar was on his way to looking John Chambersish. So there you go.

KOBA: The Mego Urko figure (or is it Ursus?) always seemed out of place. What the hell IS it? But no more. It's the spitting image of Koba, but later on when he has a uniform.
http://yesterville.blogspot.com/2010/02/mego-8-planet-of-apes-general-urko.html"
http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Koba

The director indicated that Koba will probably be the villain of the sequel, so why wait? You've got a hero, you've got a villain! (makes sounds like punches flying) >DOOSH!< >DOOSH!<

And I'm sure many of you are still holding out hope that James Franco will return. When are you going to give up that pipe dream, Alan? Meanwhile, Hot Toys has the figure for you. He's just a little big because he's been taking some of those lab drugs. And he needs new clothes, but who doesn't want to undress James Franco?
http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_112311a.htm

And there you have it. Caesar, Koba and Will. The "Rise of the POTA" starter kit.
Don't everyone thank me at once!

While we're at it, here's a video review of Hot Toys' POTA gorillas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUxWCKCtp3A

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW0Gr8_HeFo

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To put these two together is a bit too much like seeing your Mother in a porno---no matter how interesting the other bits are, you can't erase the awful bit in your mind.You flirt with blasphemy, young Veetus.John, Scrolls.

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LOL!!

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:21 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:

To put these two together is a bit too much like seeing your Mother in a porno---no matter how interesting the other bits are, you can't erase the awful bit in your mind.You flirt with blasphemy, young Veetus.John, Scrolls.

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> !
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW0Gr8_HeFo
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Reminder from:		pota Yahoo! Group
Title:		Arthur P. Jacobs was born on this day in 1922
Date:		Wednesday March 7, 2012
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It's Arthur's 90th birthday. Someone should post this "Jacobs" picture (or better yet, screengrab the one with Koba smiling) and put a party hat on Koba. I would but I'm clueless.
http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Koba



From: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 8:40 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Arthur P. Jacobs was born on this day in 1922, 3/7/2012, 12:00 am





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The voting for the Empire Magazine Awards closes on 12th March, with the results on 25th March.RISE is nominated in Best Director, Film AND Science Fiction Film.AND, glory be, Andy Serkis has a Best Actor nomination.Get your votes in now people---www.empireonline.com/awards2012. I managed to vote, and I'm a tit,so it must be easy.It would be fantastic to snaffle at least one of these categories.John, Scrolls.

FANTASTIC!!!

2012/3/6, James <JamesA1102@...>:

> From: William Burge
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 11:21 AM
> Subject: planet photos
>
>
>
> dear group, Here are some neat planet photos from 1968. from william burge
>
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On 3/7/2012 12:17 PM, Tim "apefan" wrote:

 

pics from the recent all day POTA marathon....from Lee Parmeter....is that you Kevin as Julius?

http://www.filmfetish.com/2012/03/06/images-from-a-planet-of-the-apes-marathon-and-panel-event/

Thanks, Tim!

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That's Jeff Barkley as Julius.


From: Hunter Goatley
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:06 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA marathon pics

On 3/7/2012 12:17 PM, Tim "apefan" wrote:


pics from the recent all day POTA marathon....from Lee Parmeter....is that you Kevin as Julius?



http://www.filmfetish.com/2012/03/06/images-from-a-planet-of-the-apes-marathon-and-panel-event/

Thanks, Tim!

Hunter

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Date:		Thursday March 8, 2012
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Yes, that's the non Dan Quayle spelling.I saw some Star Wars potato head toys and my mind turned to things Simian.Wouldn't some cute, fun, Apes Potato Heads be fun? There aren't any yet, but if we plant the seed, maybe they'll think about it.The company is PPW Toys and they can be emailed at client.svc@... .If enough of us ask, who knows? John, Scrolls.

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Wait for it.

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/watch-paul-williams-still-alive-trailer-makes-its-debut-on-the-eve-of-sxsw

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Yeah. I used to think it would be cool

if the USS Enterprise intervened in the

Planet of the Apes. But the particular

crossover smecks of really bad Fan Fic.

 

 

In a message dated 3/6/2012 8:20:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, johnroche49@... writes:

You flirt with blasphemy

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Good morning everybody! The new issue of THE APE is now online.

To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

Have a great weekend!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Internal Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• Marvel Archive
- Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies.
• Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
• Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
• The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel.
• The Mendez Dynasty - Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
• POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.

There were a lot actors from POTA who appeared in Star Trek over the years:

• James Daly (Dr. Honorius)
• James Gregory (General Ursus)
• Jeff Corey (Caspay)
• James Sikking (Marine Captain)
• Jason Evers (E-2)
• William Windom (The President)
• France Nuyen (Alma)
• Mark Lenard (Urko)
• John Hoyt (Barlow)

And I think there maybe one more who I'm forgetting about;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
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>
> Yeah. I used to think it would be cool
> if the USS Enterprise intervened in the
> Planet of the Apes. But the particular
> crossover smecks of really bad Fan Fic.
>
>
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YESSSSSSSSSSS
Love Fridays with a new APE!

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:45 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Good morning everybody! The new issue of THE APE is now online.

To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

Have a great weekend!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Internal Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• Marvel Archive
- Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies.
• Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
• Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
• The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel.
• The Mendez Dynasty - Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
• POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

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Linda Harrison, who played Nova in the 1968 classic, will be making her first New York appearance in over 10 years. World Con IV 2012 at the Midtown Holiday Inn Ballroom, 440 West 57th Street in Manhattan. Details posted at http://www.myboomerplace.com/CaptainCelluloid Thanks, CC!

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Who'd she play in ST?

 

 

In a message dated 3/9/2012 10:26:45 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Can't remember her name, but I remember her looks.

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I remember her.

She would have been good if Nova was blonde.

 

 

In a message dated 3/9/2012 5:15:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes:

dear group,   the costume test was feb 1967 for nova-- her name was angelique pettijohn and she was on star trek.  she died on feb 14, 1992 of the age of 48  of cancer.

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Wasn't David Warner, Senator Sandar from Burton's Apes,in a Trek movie? And another Apes/Trek connection never mentioned is the genius comic artist Tom Sutton, who drew Terror and FHC for Marvel's Apes and did a run on Star Trek too (was that Marvel or DC?).And David Gerrold did BATTLE and Tribbles.It's just amazing how much Trek has leeched off Apes over the years--even the damn Klingon boots were once gorilla boots.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I won't forget about him. Not while I live and breathe.
>
>
> From: jamesa1102
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 6:50 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Ape Trek
>
>
>
>
> There were a lot actors from POTA who appeared in Star Trek over the years:
>
> a.. James Daly (Dr. Honorius)
> b.. James Gregory (General Ursus)
> c.. Jeff Corey (Caspay)
> d.. James Sikking (Marine Captain)
> e.. Jason Evers (E-2)
> f.. William Windom (The President)
> g.. France Nuyen (Alma)
> h.. Mark Lenard (Urko)
> i.. John Hoyt (Barlow)
> And I think there maybe one more who I'm forgetting about;-)
>

I was watching RISE for the gazillionth time the other night as the wife was engrossed in Facebook (great invention for married men, Facebook, keeps the maid dumbed down and quiet for hours).Anyway, I realised that (despite having seen the movie with me at the cinema), Caesar's agonies were winning over Facebook and my beloved was watching RISE and doing that 'oohh, ahhh' thing I never hear in bed and I realised that RISE might just be the most emotionally powerful of all the APES movies.There are scenes in there (when Caesar closes the cage door on Will!) that are just plain heart breaking.Only ESCAPE, for me, comes anywhere near RISE for sheer emotional punch--it's an emotional roller-coaster.John.

David Warner is in everything. Remember when his head got cut off in "The Omen" (Academy Award winner for Jerry Goldsmith). His wife said he should do that movie and he said, "Do you want to get my head chopped off?". Actually, I don't know if he was even married.
I do know that Jerry Finnerman was director of photography on both "Star Trek" and the POTA TV show.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 1:48 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Ape Trek



Wasn't David Warner, Senator Sandar from Burton's Apes,in a Trek movie? And another Apes/Trek connection never mentioned is the genius comic artist Tom Sutton, who drew Terror and FHC for Marvel's Apes and did a run on Star Trek too (was that Marvel or DC?).And David Gerrold did BATTLE and Tribbles.It's just amazing how much Trek has leeched off Apes over the years--even the damn Klingon boots were once gorilla boots.John, Scrolls.

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Hollywood has rediscovered Lake Powell's charm for the scifi genre, most recently with a supposedly $250 million dollar production:

http://www.lakepowellrealty.net/john-carter-of-mars-trailer-2-is-out/

Whether or not that figure's inflated to include on-again, off-again production costs over the decades, Lake Powell is enchanting and hopefully a source of a possible Easter egg in the upcoming sequel to Rise of the Planet of the Apes. I visited Lake Powell 20 years ago this August and the boat tour guide treated me like I was an aberration for asking where the Apes scenes were filmed. I sure was glad that the Apes franchise was revived beginning a decade later. But an Easter egg in Rise for Lake Powell would be nice, since the Apes franchise hasn't returned there since 1968. Beneath didn't quite reach that area of the Forbidden Zone. I wonder how Lake Powell could be relevant to Rise's sequel though...

I'm not aware that POTA 2001 got any closer to Lake Powell than Beneath the Planet of the Apes did, did it? Granted, Wikipedia says filming began there:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_(2001_film)#Filming

But the only lake I saw in POTA2001 had plush vegetation. That didn't look like Lake Powell to me. The desert-like outskirts of Lake Powell may have been where the Oberon wound up, but I'm talking LAKE Powell here :-)

As for John Carter (of [Martian] Lake Powell) though, like our beloved Rise of the POTA, it's doing much better abroad than domestically:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=johncarterofmars.htm

At the rate it's going, it just might make its money back after Blu Ray and toys are sold. And I doubt it cost $250 million to make...as there's likely some voodoo-accounting going on to reflect prior negotiations and development (sort of like with Superman 2006).

At any rate, I want a Lake Powell Easter egg in Rise 2 :-) Might you?

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LOVE the art in these!!

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=11732

Enjoy!

Tim

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

Warner was married, because he 'lost' the prosthetic head that was chopped off in The Omen in a later divorce, according to one interview.I'm consulting the European Court of Human Rights to establish whether the current Homepage pic is actionable as a crime against humanity.What sort of sick, twisted psyche would come up with such an abominanable juxtaposition of Sublime and Crap? There is a dark, satanic strain that has emerged on this Group that concerns me--it's no coincidence that Satan and Spock both have pointy ears.An Ape Exorcism may be required.John, the Power of the Lawgiver Compels You, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> David Warner is in everything. Remember when his head got cut off in "The Omen" (Academy Award winner for Jerry Goldsmith). His wife said he should do that movie and he said, "Do you want to get my head chopped off?". Actually, I don't know if he was even married.
> I do know that Jerry Finnerman was director of photography on both "Star Trek" and the POTA TV show.
>
>
>
>
> David Warner is actually most famous for a little British film he did back in the mid-'60s called MORGAN!, where his character's favorite movie is KING KONG and he eventually gets "trapped" in a gorilla suit. If you've never seen it, I encourage you to seek it out.
>
> Warner is also in the notorious STAR TREK V.
>

I keep pinching myself---it's a dream to have such magnificent Apes comics coming out regularly.BOOM! are really stepping up to the challenge.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> LOVE the art in these!!
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=11732
> >
> > Enjoy!
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg

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BOOM! has done a great job on the Betrayal series. My only complaint is that it was too short.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I keep pinching myself---it's a dream to have such magnificent Apes comics coming out regularly.BOOM! are really stepping up to the challenge.John, Scrolls.
>

Well said!
What's particularly interesting to me at the moment is how John Carter made more than two thirds overseas ($70 million) this weekend what it did in the USA ($30 million):

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=johncarterofmars.htm

Rise similarly made 63% of its revenues overseas:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=riseoftheapes.htm

Typically movies make abroad what they make in the USA, and POTA2001 was no exception:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=planetoftheapes01.htm

Perhaps the USA's residents have gotten too soft, with their demonstrated inclination to leech off of future generations rather than try and make a better world for them?

http://www.USDebtClock.org

That phenomenon might help explain why worthwhile movies appeal to Americans comparatively less than before. Reality shows might be all the "reality" that most Americans can handle amidst their guilt.

As a sidenote, the movie The Help didn't even make 20% of its revenues abroad:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=help2011.htm

The same goes for Sandra Bullock's racially focused Blind Side:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=blindside.htm

The movie Precious didn't do much better, although it didn't do well abroad either and that might help explain its slight deviation from the abovementioned norm for that genre:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=preciouspush.htm

Perhaps this discrepancy is explained by how only in the USA can one be so thoroughly sued and held liable for not being sufficiently racially tolerant? Some might say that the explanation is in how people think they need a movie to help them understand certain issues better, and especially so that they can symbolically demonstrate their tolerance by their movie ticket purchases (either to co-workers, employers or juries).

Either way, isn't it ironic that a racially thought-provoking franchise like the Apes series has nevertheless lost ground domestically compared to overseas, while the lion's share of racially charged, pro-taxpayer subsidies movies like Precious earn the lion's share of their proceeds domestically?

Regards from Houston and have a great week, everyone :-)

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The Paul ("Virgil") Williams revival has "only just begun". The documentary about him is scheduled to hit theaters in June (including a brand new Paul Williams song). He's working with Daft Punk, he's the prez of ASCAP... All that's missing is a "Rise 2" cameo.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/paul-williams-still-alive

Is it likely that this will be released on DVD? I'd love to see this.Paul did a Scrols interview many moons ago and is a fascinating, indeed, inspirational character.His Virgil is possibly the most enagaging Ape of the movie series.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The Paul ("Virgil") Williams revival has "only just begun". The documentary about him is scheduled to hit theaters in June (including a brand new Paul Williams song). He's working with Daft Punk, he's the prez of ASCAP... All that's missing is a "Rise 2" cameo.
>
> http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/paul-williams-still-alive
>

It will probably be on DVD. "THAT'S what I know!"
Hopefully the DVD will include the complete Johnny Carson interview as an extra.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:22 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Paul Williams doc in theaters in June



Is it likely that this will be released on DVD? I'd love to see this.Paul did a Scrols interview many moons ago and is a fascinating, indeed, inspirational character.His Virgil is possibly the most enagaging Ape of the movie series.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> The Paul ("Virgil") Williams revival has "only just begun". The documentary about him is scheduled to hit theaters in June (including a brand new Paul Williams song). He's working with Daft Punk, he's the prez of ASCAP... All that's missing is a "Rise 2" cameo.
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> http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/paul-williams-still-alive
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Greetings, everyone.

 

Attached is a page from the Starlog Photo Guidebook on Science Fiction Villains featuring our favorite Orangutan, Dr. Zaius.  Enjoy!

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

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I hope so--if there's any news, please let me know.When you think of the hidden archive out there of pics, film and stuff that Apes has built up over the years, there's still a great lot of fun to be had.It would be amazing to see Roddy's stash.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> It will probably be on DVD. "THAT'S what I know!"
> Hopefully the DVD will include the complete Johnny Carson interview as an extra.
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> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:22 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Paul Williams doc in theaters in June
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>
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> Is it likely that this will be released on DVD? I'd love to see this.Paul did a Scrols interview many moons ago and is a fascinating, indeed, inspirational character.His Virgil is possibly the most enagaging Ape of the movie series.John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > The Paul ("Virgil") Williams revival has "only just begun". The documentary about him is scheduled to hit theaters in June (including a brand new Paul Williams song). He's working with Daft Punk, he's the prez of ASCAP... All that's missing is a "Rise 2" cameo.
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> > http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/paul-williams-still-alive
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Thanks Jeff!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, RedSpy13@... wrote:
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> Greetings, everyone.
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> Attached is a page from the Starlog Photo Guidebook on Science Fiction
> Villains featuring our favorite Orangutan, Dr. Zaius. Enjoy!
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
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It raises an interesting moral issue--what is the bigger crime, appearing in Burton's Apes or appearing in Star Trek.Clear evidence that two wromngs don't make a right.John, Scrolls,

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Sheets <bockwinkle99@...> wrote:
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> Re: David Warner---Yes, David Warner was is Star Trek 6: The Undiscovered Country. He was the Klingon Ambassador who was murdered on the Enterprise.
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> If I'm the 100th person to respond, I apologize.
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Has there EVER been a genre,franchise, movie that did so well at the box office but had SO little post movie existence? NO merchandise,adaptatations,cards,making of books?I love RISE but, bloody hell, we surely deserved some sort of Apes merchandising splurge? John, Scrolls.

TGIF! This week's new issue of THE APE is now available.

To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Internal Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• Marvel Archive
- Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies.
• Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
• Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
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Here's a rundown of the development of POTA in the '90's, courtesy of the book "Tales From Development Hell".

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/02/tales-from-development-hell-apes/

While we're at it, here's the trailer for Burton's latest, "Dark Shadows" (with Jackie Earle "Kraik" Haley).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cVcpz8H3Pk

Finally got my hard copy of this off ebay, after my order from Cinefex disappeared.It's a wonderful feature on RISE--the pics are achingly sharp and, if anything such thing is possible, are even more convincing than the movie.A couple of points hit me in 'Render Unto Caesar'---Koba's design is 'modified with suggestions of a bonobo facial structure'.This makes Koba even more poignant to me, as Bonobos are ordinarily the peace hippies of the Ape world.Another point raised is that the original trailer 'ignited a firestorm of debate among afficionados of the franchise'---how is this 'firestorm' gauged--does he mean US??!! Well worth hunting down this issue of CINEFEX--the quality of the pics makes me weep for the trading cards we never got.John, Scrolls.

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Tadah!!

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HIY10000&mode=retail

Thanks, Jess.
And so it begins!


From: jessica rotich
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:29 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] RISE DESERT



Tadah!!

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HIY10000&mode=retail

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:34 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:


Has there EVER been a genre,franchise, movie that did so well at the box office but had SO little post movie existence? NO merchandise,adaptatations,cards,making of books?I love RISE but, bloody hell, we surely deserved some sort of Apes merchandising splurge? John, Scrolls.

YEEESSSS!!! What a Big,Bad,Toystore way to start St Patrick's Day!!! Some RISE merchandise ...AT LAST!!! I've pre-ordered mine already and can't wait to play with all that articulated goodness!! Thanks,Jess--you've made an old silverback very happy!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> Tadah!!
>
> http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HIY10000&mode=retail
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>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:34 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > Has there EVER been a genre,franchise, movie that did so well at the box
> > office but had SO little post movie existence? NO
> > merchandise,adaptatations,cards,making of books?I love RISE but, bloody
> > hell, we surely deserved some sort of Apes merchandising splurge? John,
> > Scrolls.
> >
> >
> >
>

Replying to my own email--worrying.Reading more of the CINEFEX article,it sounds like there was a LOT of exploration of doing RISE in suits and armature, rather than CGI, especially before Wyatt came on board.Indeed, 'the glove arms were employed for one shot of the apes being wheeled into the Gen Sys lab'.Baby Caesar's animatronic model was used as the stand in for CGI overlay and Buck was intended to be a model for over the shoulder shots.
Couple of character points are mentioned--Maurice is designed as being 30-40 years old, Buck's 'cracked and peeling skin ,suggesting years of mistreatment and malnutrition'.The care and thought that went into RISE certainly shines through.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Finally got my hard copy of this off ebay, after my order from Cinefex disappeared.It's a wonderful feature on RISE--the pics are achingly sharp and, if anything such thing is possible, are even more convincing than the movie.A couple of points hit me in 'Render Unto Caesar'---Koba's design is 'modified with suggestions of a bonobo facial structure'.This makes Koba even more poignant to me, as Bonobos are ordinarily the peace hippies of the Ape world.Another point raised is that the original trailer 'ignited a firestorm of debate among afficionados of the franchise'---how is this 'firestorm' gauged--does he mean US??!! Well worth hunting down this issue of CINEFEX--the quality of the pics makes me weep for the trading cards we never got.John, Scrolls.
>

(with due acknowledgement to Kent Brockman of The Simpsons)Is drunkeness, racism and senseless violence really what we think of when we think of St Patrick's Day? 'It's Doomsday Zaius',says Taylor,'Ahh Jayzuz, sure you'll take a pint anyway, me bucko' says Zaius. John,O'Scrolls.

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And two different heads too.

Speaking of heads...

if anyone needs an unpainted 

Burke head, I still have one.

 

T

 

 

In a message dated 3/16/2012 10:38:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

 

Tadah!!

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HIY10000&mode=retail

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:34 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:

 

Has there EVER been a genre,franchise, movie that did so well at the box office but had SO little post movie existence? NO merchandise,adaptatations,cards,making of books?I love RISE but, bloody hell, we surely deserved some sort of Apes merchandising splurge? John, Scrolls.

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John when you get this in your damn dirty hands, please post a photo of his behind. I wanna see what that looks like. I'm curious.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:54 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:

YEEESSSS!!! What a Big,Bad,Toystore way to start St Patrick's Day!!! Some RISE merchandise ...AT LAST!!! I've pre-ordered mine already and can't wait to play with all that articulated goodness!! Thanks,Jess--you've made an old silverback very happy!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> Tadah!!
>
> http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HIY10000&mode=retail
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>
>

> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:34 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> > **

> >
> >
> > Has there EVER been a genre,franchise, movie that did so well at the box
> > office but had SO little post movie existence? NO
> > merchandise,adaptatations,cards,making of books?I love RISE but, bloody
> > hell, we surely deserved some sort of Apes merchandising splurge? John,
> > Scrolls.
> >
> >
> >
>

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And two different heads too.

Speaking of heads...

if anyone needs an unpainted 

Burke head, I still have one.

 

T

 

 

In a message dated 3/16/2012 10:38:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

 

Tadah!!

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HIY10000&mode=retail

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:34 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:

 

Has there EVER been a genre,franchise, movie that did so well at the box office but had SO little post movie existence? NO merchandise,adaptatations,cards,making of books?I love RISE but, bloody hell, we surely deserved some sort of Apes merchandising splurge? John, Scrolls.

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It's not out until July Jess---if you're desperate, I could ask Dave Ballard to email a pic of his butt--it's almost identical but slightly more hairy.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> John when you get this in your damn dirty hands, please post a photo of his
> behind. I wanna see what that looks like. I'm curious.
>
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:54 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > YEEESSSS!!! What a Big,Bad,Toystore way to start St Patrick's Day!!! Some
> > RISE merchandise ...AT LAST!!! I've pre-ordered mine already and can't wait
> > to play with all that articulated goodness!! Thanks,Jess--you've made an
> > old silverback very happy!!! John, Scrolls.
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tadah!!
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HIY10000&mode=retail
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> > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:34 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@> wrote:
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has there EVER been a genre,franchise, movie that did so well at the
> > box
> > > > office but had SO little post movie existence? NO
> > > > merchandise,adaptatations,cards,making of books?I love RISE but, bloody
> > > > hell, we surely deserved some sort of Apes merchandising splurge? John,
> > > > Scrolls.
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And it set off on my wedding anniversary....wish I'd gone with 'em....John, Scrolls.

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Got issue #1 of BOOM!s new mini today and it is beautiful.Bechko and Hardman's script, including a certain cigar smoking gorilla, is perfect and the art ,bu Marc Laming, is just wonderful, like a blend of Marvel and John Bolton.I can't recommend rthis series highly enough--it's the kind of Apes strip we've been waiting decades for.Buy it.John, Scrolls.

Boom's Betrayal was great. I haven't picked up Exile yet but am looking forward to it.

Like Revolution several years ago, the comic's strength lies in that the writers are really POTA fans.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Got issue #1 of BOOM!s new mini today and it is beautiful.Bechko and Hardman's script, including a certain cigar smoking gorilla, is perfect and the art ,bu Marc Laming, is just wonderful, like a blend of Marvel and John Bolton.I can't recommend rthis series highly enough--it's the kind of Apes strip we've been waiting decades for.Buy it.John, Scrolls.
>

For some reason the article only looks at the film from a box office perspective. But if you take into account the critical reaction, the fact that almost everyone who saw the film didn't like and the failure of the merchandising; the film was definately a flop.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> This is what that "Flop or Not?" article says:
>
> When wunderkind Tim Burton set his sights on remaking a sci-fi classic, fanboy hearts leapt. Then the film itself came out, and we could have predicted the results: great visuals, a few strong performances (notably Tim Roth’s evil chimpanzee) but a storyline that made absolutely no sense.
> Flop or Not? NOT. Not only was its $362 million worldwide box office well ahead of its production budget, but it made a solid $180 million domestically against a stated production budget of $100 million. That success convinced Fox to eventually bank on this summer’s terrific Rise of the Planet of the Apes, bringing a happy ending to more than just the studio accountants.
>
> I don't care what this person says, Burton's turd was a flop. Just because audiences were sucked by the studio campaign and it made money doesn't mean it wasn't a flop. It put the franchise on ice for a decade and if it wasn't for the work of others outside of Fox, APES would still be on ice.
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The advertising budget for Burton's Apes, allied with franchise affection, made it nearly flop-proof.John Carter is a casat iron, bona fide flop of catastrophic proportions and it makes me SO glad (and SO smug) that RISE was the hit it was, notwithstanding the lingering Burton stink.Had RISE flopped,where would we be? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> For some reason the article only looks at the film from a box office
> perspective. But if you take into account the critical reaction, the
> fact that almost everyone who saw the film didn't like and the failure
> of the merchandising; the film was definately a flop.
>
>