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Group: pota Message: 68712 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/12/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68713 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/12/2012
Subject: Herbert Hirschman was born on this day in 1914, 4/13/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 68714 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: bloody baboons can recognize words
Group: pota Message: 68715 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68716 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Re: bloody baboons can recognize words
Group: pota Message: 68717 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68718 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Mego Battle
Group: pota Message: 68719 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: The Ape
Group: pota Message: 68720 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68721 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Vote Best Movie Franchise
Group: pota Message: 68722 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68723 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Bradford Dillman's Birthday , 4/14/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 68724 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: Re: Vote Best Movie Franchise
Group: pota Message: 68725 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: Re: Vote Best Movie Franchise
Group: pota Message: 68726 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: Re: The Ape
Group: pota Message: 68727 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: Re: The Ape
Group: pota Message: 68728 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: Re: Vote Best Movie Franchise
Group: pota Message: 68729 From: James Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: FW: escape marquee
Group: pota Message: 68730 From: James Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: FW: planet items
Group: pota Message: 68731 From: James Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68732 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: Wouldn't Taylor laugh hard at THIS little flag in the desert?
Group: pota Message: 68733 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: Re: Vote Best Movie Franchise
Group: pota Message: 68734 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/15/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68735 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/15/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68736 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Vote Best Movie Franchise
Group: pota Message: 68737 From: Pawfan Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: The Ape
Group: pota Message: 68738 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68739 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68740 From: James Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68741 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68742 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68743 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68744 From: Dario Sciola Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Conspiracy Review
Group: pota Message: 68745 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
Group: pota Message: 68746 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
Group: pota Message: 68747 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Conspiracy Review
Group: pota Message: 68748 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
Group: pota Message: 68749 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
Group: pota Message: 68750 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeologic
Group: pota Message: 68751 From: Pawfan Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeol
Group: pota Message: 68752 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeol
Group: pota Message: 68753 From: Stuart Drucker Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeol
Group: pota Message: 68754 From: Pawfan Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: Re: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeol
Group: pota Message: 68755 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
Group: pota Message: 68756 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: Re: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeol
Group: pota Message: 68757 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: Six Million Dollar Apes
Group: pota Message: 68758 From: James Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: FW: planet photo
Group: pota Message: 68759 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: Re: Six Million Dollar Apes
Group: pota Message: 68760 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: "Rise" director and Charlize Theron hooking up
Group: pota Message: 68761 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: POTA: Legacy Collection
Group: pota Message: 68762 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Six Million Dollar Apes
Group: pota Message: 68763 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
Group: pota Message: 68764 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Six Million Dollar Apes
Group: pota Message: 68765 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
Group: pota Message: 68766 From: James Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68767 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise" director and Charlize Theron hooking up
Group: pota Message: 68768 From: caesarape1 Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68769 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68770 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68771 From: Shane Miller Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68772 From: James OBeirne Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68773 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Chimp mangling victim in CT sues state for $150 million...
Group: pota Message: 68774 From: gort65 Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68775 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68776 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: Six Million Dollar Apes
Group: pota Message: 68777 From: dave Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68778 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68779 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68780 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: The Ape
Group: pota Message: 68781 From: sparkytb2005 Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: For the first time in 37 years....
Group: pota Message: 68782 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: The Ape
Group: pota Message: 68783 From: dave Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: FOX & 3D
Group: pota Message: 68784 From: James Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68785 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68786 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
Group: pota Message: 68787 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Anyone we know?
Group: pota Message: 68788 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: For the first time in 37 years....
Group: pota Message: 68789 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: FOX & 3D
Group: pota Message: 68790 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: FOX & 3D
Group: pota Message: 68791 From: gort65 Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: Anyone we know?
Group: pota Message: 68792 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
Group: pota Message: 68793 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68794 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: Anyone we know?
Group: pota Message: 68795 From: Sherri Bragg Date: 4/20/2012
Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
Group: pota Message: 68796 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: For the first time in 37 years....
Group: pota Message: 68797 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: Six Million Dollar Apes
Group: pota Message: 68798 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: Anyone we know?
Group: pota Message: 68799 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68800 From: James Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: FW: planet stars on the walk of fame
Group: pota Message: 68801 From: James Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68802 From: James Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: FW: planet photos
Group: pota Message: 68803 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
Group: pota Message: 68804 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68805 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68806 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: (no subject)
Group: pota Message: 68807 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: FW: planet stars on the walk of fame [12 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 68808 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68809 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: "Salvation on the POTA" Special Edition
Group: pota Message: 68810 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68811 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt



Group: pota Message: 68712 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/12/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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The Apes seem to have more appeal globally than Star Trek. Star Trek has decayed into such politically correct themes, after all. The Apes movies aren't nearly as corny regarding those.

"Movies" like "Precious", "The Help" and "The Blind Side" didn't do particularly well overseas, either. But in the USA, where lawsuits are more prevalent regarding perceived slights and alleged discrimination, such movies provide sort of a social elixir to which some people flock for salvation.

I thought Rise did a wonderful job of portraying humanity's oppressiveness in a racially balanced way, didn't you? From the initial scenes in the jungle to the CEO's murdering spree from the helicopter, we saw how skin color isn't necessarily a predictor of oppressiveness.

I have recently lived for a few years in the USA's most ethnically diverse city (Houston, TX. where I presume that Colonel Taylor trained during his ANSA years). I have concluded after plenty of experiences that the "dark side" of humanity exists in more or less equal percentages of virtually all ethnic groups, age groups, socio economic groups and genders. As an attorney, I analytically strived hard to find predictors of bad behavior so that I could better avoid it. I concluded that the only predictor that works reliably is whether or not a person has a "good heart". A psychology grad. student recently told me that that has a lot to do with the relevant person's definition of "self-preservation" too.

Not long afterward, we had discussions in this group about George Taylor's willingness to destroy the planet (in Beneath). It was labeled as the ultimate manifestation of his misanthropy. Such talks really got me to thinking. I've become more distanced from others over time, after seeing so much darkness out there amidst my experiences as a litigator. Sometimes I feel that I can really relate to George Taylor's assessment of humanity. Plenty of folks can, which is part of why movies like Rise of the Planet of the Apes do so well. But as Koba demonstrated, Apes aren't without their meaner members too... The sequel has the potential to be quite interesting as this nuance unfolds.


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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> This month's SciFi now has some adjusted for inflation figures for the Trek movies.ST The Motion Picture is at 434 million, with the last one at $408 million.So, yet again, it is conclusively established that Apes, by virtue of ROTPOTA, is a far bigger and more successful franchise than Trek.It's scientific.I don't make the rules.
> And it states that May 2013 is the target date for new Trek 2 to be vomited onto cinema screens---SO, if RISE 2 is due next Summer too, it's the long awaited throwdown between Apes and Trek.
> BRING.IT.ON.John, Scrolls.
>
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Group: pota Message: 68713 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/12/2012
Subject: Herbert Hirschman was born on this day in 1914, 4/13/2012, 12:00 am
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Group: pota Message: 68714 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: bloody baboons can recognize words
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French scientists have shown that baboons can recognize four letter words (not those kinds of four letter words!) and distinguish them from random letters. That doesn't mean they can read but they can recognize the word as an object and perhaps it gives a clue to how we learn words as well. So perhaps one day if they see the words "rise" and "apes" it will signal the revolution. Also, check out how fast they pick out the words. As with sequencing numbers, they're faster than we are.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/weird-wide-web/baboons-words-pattern-recognition-reading-science
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Group: pota Message: 68715 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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Nice to see someone with half a brain make a post. I agree with your assertions and with your observations. Very good post, Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
> The Apes seem to have more appeal globally than Star Trek. Star Trek has decayed into such politically correct themes, after all. The Apes movies aren't nearly as corny regarding those.
>
> "Movies" like "Precious", "The Help" and "The Blind Side" didn't do particularly well overseas, either. But in the USA, where lawsuits are more prevalent regarding perceived slights and alleged discrimination, such movies provide sort of a social elixir to which some people flock for salvation.
>
> I thought Rise did a wonderful job of portraying humanity's oppressiveness in a racially balanced way, didn't you? From the initial scenes in the jungle to the CEO's murdering spree from the helicopter, we saw how skin color isn't necessarily a predictor of oppressiveness.
>
> I have recently lived for a few years in the USA's most ethnically diverse city (Houston, TX. where I presume that Colonel Taylor trained during his ANSA years). I have concluded after plenty of experiences that the "dark side" of humanity exists in more or less equal percentages of virtually all ethnic groups, age groups, socio economic groups and genders. As an attorney, I analytically strived hard to find predictors of bad behavior so that I could better avoid it. I concluded that the only predictor that works reliably is whether or not a person has a "good heart". A psychology grad. student recently told me that that has a lot to do with the relevant person's definition of "self-preservation" too.
>
> Not long afterward, we had discussions in this group about George Taylor's willingness to destroy the planet (in Beneath). It was labeled as the ultimate manifestation of his misanthropy. Such talks really got me to thinking. I've become more distanced from others over time, after seeing so much darkness out there amidst my experiences as a litigator. Sometimes I feel that I can really relate to George Taylor's assessment of humanity. Plenty of folks can, which is part of why movies like Rise of the Planet of the Apes do so well. But as Koba demonstrated, Apes aren't without their meaner members too... The sequel has the potential to be quite interesting as this nuance unfolds.
>
>
> __
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > This month's SciFi now has some adjusted for inflation figures for the Trek movies.ST The Motion Picture is at 434 million, with the last one at $408 million.So, yet again, it is conclusively established that Apes, by virtue of ROTPOTA, is a far bigger and more successful franchise than Trek.It's scientific.I don't make the rules.
> > And it states that May 2013 is the target date for new Trek 2 to be vomited onto cinema screens---SO, if RISE 2 is due next Summer too, it's the long awaited throwdown between Apes and Trek.
> > BRING.IT.ON.John, Scrolls.
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 68716 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Re: bloody baboons can recognize words
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The real test will be whether they can understand Mark Wahlberg's emotionless, whispering mumblings.If thery can crack that then it's bye bye humanity.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> French scientists have shown that baboons can recognize four letter words (not those kinds of four letter words!) and distinguish them from random letters. That doesn't mean they can read but they can recognize the word as an object and perhaps it gives a clue to how we learn words as well. So perhaps one day if they see the words "rise" and "apes" it will signal the revolution. Also, check out how fast they pick out the words. As with sequencing numbers, they're faster than we are.
>
> http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/weird-wide-web/baboons-words-pattern-recognition-reading-science
>
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Group: pota Message: 68717 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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The sequel has a big responsiblity.If it goes the 'ALIENS' route and is just a shoot 'em up Cameron style thing, I'll be dismayed.My worry over RISE 2 is that the first one had one hell of an early hook---baby Caesar.You'd have to have a heart of flint not to be pulled in by the toilet flushing scene.RISE 2 will struggle to match that enagagement and if it falls into the trap of doing the hinted at 'Full Metal Jacket' thing, then that, for me, would betray the 'mirror on humanity' approach that RISE totally nailed.
Over to you Messrs Wyatt, Silver, Jaffa and Serkis! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
> The Apes seem to have more appeal globally than Star Trek. Star Trek has decayed into such politically correct themes, after all. The Apes movies aren't nearly as corny regarding those.
>
> "Movies" like "Precious", "The Help" and "The Blind Side" didn't do particularly well overseas, either. But in the USA, where lawsuits are more prevalent regarding perceived slights and alleged discrimination, such movies provide sort of a social elixir to which some people flock for salvation.
>
> I thought Rise did a wonderful job of portraying humanity's oppressiveness in a racially balanced way, didn't you? From the initial scenes in the jungle to the CEO's murdering spree from the helicopter, we saw how skin color isn't necessarily a predictor of oppressiveness.
>
> I have recently lived for a few years in the USA's most ethnically diverse city (Houston, TX. where I presume that Colonel Taylor trained during his ANSA years). I have concluded after plenty of experiences that the "dark side" of humanity exists in more or less equal percentages of virtually all ethnic groups, age groups, socio economic groups and genders. As an attorney, I analytically strived hard to find predictors of bad behavior so that I could better avoid it. I concluded that the only predictor that works reliably is whether or not a person has a "good heart". A psychology grad. student recently told me that that has a lot to do with the relevant person's definition of "self-preservation" too.
>
> Not long afterward, we had discussions in this group about George Taylor's willingness to destroy the planet (in Beneath). It was labeled as the ultimate manifestation of his misanthropy. Such talks really got me to thinking. I've become more distanced from others over time, after seeing so much darkness out there amidst my experiences as a litigator. Sometimes I feel that I can really relate to George Taylor's assessment of humanity. Plenty of folks can, which is part of why movies like Rise of the Planet of the Apes do so well. But as Koba demonstrated, Apes aren't without their meaner members too... The sequel has the potential to be quite interesting as this nuance unfolds.
>
>
> __
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > This month's SciFi now has some adjusted for inflation figures for the Trek movies.ST The Motion Picture is at 434 million, with the last one at $408 million.So, yet again, it is conclusively established that Apes, by virtue of ROTPOTA, is a far bigger and more successful franchise than Trek.It's scientific.I don't make the rules.
> > And it states that May 2013 is the target date for new Trek 2 to be vomited onto cinema screens---SO, if RISE 2 is due next Summer too, it's the long awaited throwdown between Apes and Trek.
> > BRING.IT.ON.John, Scrolls.
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 68718 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Mego Battle
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Does anyone in here have the time and technical nous to juxtapose the head images of the Mego Cornelius/Galen with the head of the Battle statue of Caesar? I think they came from the same design.No idea how.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 68719 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: The Ape
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Group: pota Message: 68720 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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I thought someone with half a brain was making posts. >: (


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:12 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Inflation Theory



Nice to see someone with half a brain make a post. I agree with your assertions and with your observations. Very good post, Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
> The Apes seem to have more appeal globally than Star Trek. Star Trek has decayed into such politically correct themes, after all. The Apes movies aren't nearly as corny regarding those.
>
> "Movies" like "Precious", "The Help" and "The Blind Side" didn't do particularly well overseas, either. But in the USA, where lawsuits are more prevalent regarding perceived slights and alleged discrimination, such movies provide sort of a social elixir to which some people flock for salvation.
>
> I thought Rise did a wonderful job of portraying humanity's oppressiveness in a racially balanced way, didn't you? From the initial scenes in the jungle to the CEO's murdering spree from the helicopter, we saw how skin color isn't necessarily a predictor of oppressiveness.
>
> I have recently lived for a few years in the USA's most ethnically diverse city (Houston, TX. where I presume that Colonel Taylor trained during his ANSA years). I have concluded after plenty of experiences that the "dark side" of humanity exists in more or less equal percentages of virtually all ethnic groups, age groups, socio economic groups and genders. As an attorney, I analytically strived hard to find predictors of bad behavior so that I could better avoid it. I concluded that the only predictor that works reliably is whether or not a person has a "good heart". A psychology grad. student recently told me that that has a lot to do with the relevant person's definition of "self-preservation" too.
>
> Not long afterward, we had discussions in this group about George Taylor's willingness to destroy the planet (in Beneath). It was labeled as the ultimate manifestation of his misanthropy. Such talks really got me to thinking. I've become more distanced from others over time, after seeing so much darkness out there amidst my experiences as a litigator. Sometimes I feel that I can really relate to George Taylor's assessment of humanity. Plenty of folks can, which is part of why movies like Rise of the Planet of the Apes do so well. But as Koba demonstrated, Apes aren't without their meaner members too... The sequel has the potential to be quite interesting as this nuance unfolds.
>
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Group: pota Message: 68721 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Vote Best Movie Franchise
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The Huffington Post is asking which is your favorite franchise, POTA or STAR WARS?
 
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Group: pota Message: 68722 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/13/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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Sometimes I feel that I can really relate to George Taylor's assessment of humanity.
I relate most every time I watch the news!
 
 
 
 



 
-----Original Message-----
From: georgetaylor68 <georgetaylor68@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 2:41 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Inflation Theory

 
The Apes seem to have more appeal globally than Star Trek. Star Trek has decayed into such politically correct themes, after all. The Apes movies aren't nearly as corny regarding those.

"Movies" like "Precious", "The Help" and "The Blind Side" didn't do particularly well overseas, either. But in the USA, where lawsuits are more prevalent regarding perceived slights and alleged discrimination, such movies provide sort of a social elixir to which some people flock for salvation.

I thought Rise did a wonderful job of portraying humanity's oppressiveness in a racially balanced way, didn't you? From the initial scenes in the jungle to the CEO's murdering spree from the helicopter, we saw how skin color isn't necessarily a predictor of oppressiveness.

I have recently lived for a few years in the USA's most ethnically diverse city (Houston, TX. where I presume that Colonel Taylor trained during his ANSA years). I have concluded after plenty of experiences that the "dark side" of humanity exists in more or less equal percentages of virtually all ethnic groups, age groups, socio economic groups and genders. As an attorney, I analytically strived hard to find predictors of bad behavior so that I could better avoid it. I concluded that the only predictor that works reliably is whether or not a person has a "good heart". A psychology grad. student recently told me that that has a lot to do with the relevant person's definition of "self-preservation" too.

Not long afterward, we had discussions in this group about George Taylor's willingness to destroy the planet (in Beneath). It was labeled as the ultimate manifestation of his misanthropy. Such talks really got me to thinking. I've become more distanced from others over time, after seeing so much darkness out there amidst my experiences as a litigator. Sometimes I feel that I can really relate to George Taylor's assessment of humanity. Plenty of folks can, which is part of why movies like Rise of the Planet of the Apes do so well. But as Koba demonstrated, Apes aren't without their meaner members too... The sequel has the potential to be quite interesting as this nuance unfolds.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> This month's SciFi now has some adjusted for inflation figures for the Trek movies.ST The Motion Picture is at 434 million, with the last one at $408 million.So, yet again, it is conclusively established that Apes, by virtue of ROTPOTA, is a far bigger and more successful franchise than Trek.It's scientific.I don't make the rules.
> And it states that May 2013 is the target date for new Trek 2 to be vomited onto cinema screens---SO, if RISE 2 is due next Summer too, it's the long awaited throwdown between Apes and Trek.
> BRING.IT.ON.John, Scrolls.
>

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Group: pota Message: 68724 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/14/2012
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What an insult-Star Wars over Apes by that large margin. This survey obviously appeals to 9 year olds of all ages. Wars can do no wrong to their fan base, yeech! John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> The Huffington Post is asking which is your favorite franchise, POTA or STAR WARS?
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/best-movie-franchise-hunger-games-harry-potter-star-wars_n_1417692.htmlref=entertainment
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Group: pota Message: 68725 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/14/2012
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I've done my Simian duty and voted for Apes,but we're currently a LONG way behind Star Wars.I used to love Star Wars and recently bought the original novel at carboot sale (sort of like a garage sale but in a field).It was actually my reading book in primary school.But the prequels hve extinguished the flame---I just can't be bothered with Lucs-world any more.John.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> The Huffington Post is asking which is your favorite franchise, POTA or STAR WARS?
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/best-movie-franchise-hunger-games-harry-potter-star-wars_n_1417692.htmlref=entertainment
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Group: pota Message: 68726 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/14/2012
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Is it just me, or does General Titus in this week's THE APES look like he's been imbibing one too many banana sundaes? He's a bit of a chunky monkey isn't he?Ursus was obsessed with food too, so maybe it's a gorilla weakness? Great issue, as always. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Good morning! This week's issue of THE APE is now available. Special
> thanks for Dave Ballard, Brian Penkas and the folks at Apemania for
> their contribution.
> To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this
> link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm> .
>
> Have a great weekend everyone!
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
> * The Internal Website
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm> - Original POTA
> One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and
> much, much more. * <http://tinyurl.com/2uy7v7c> Marvel Archive
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm>
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm> - Online
> archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies. *
> Lessons from the Lawgiver
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm> – Words
> of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. * Cornelius' Journal
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm> - The Memoirs
> of Dr. Cornelius. * Ape City Chronicles
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm> - The First
> 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil. * The Illustrated
> Monkey Planet <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MPC.htm>
> - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. *
> The Mendez Dynasty
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm> - Keepers of
> the Divine Bomb. * POTA Locations
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm> -
> The places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm> -
> Works of POTA Art by our members. * The Database Section
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> ranging from Characters to Comics.
>
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Group: pota Message: 68727 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/14/2012
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Maybe its Ballard's fault. He took the picture and might have used the wrong lens;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Is it just me, or does General Titus in this week's THE APES look like he's been imbibing one too many banana sundaes? He's a bit of a chunky monkey isn't he?Ursus was obsessed with food too, so maybe it's a gorilla weakness? Great issue, as always. John, Scrolls.
>

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Group: pota Message: 68728 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/14/2012
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I thought it was a bit unfair to pit Star Wars versus POTA in the first round.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> What an insult-Star Wars over Apes by that large margin. This survey obviously appeals to 9 year olds of all ages. Wars can do no wrong to their fan base, yeech! John M.
>

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Group: pota Message: 68729 From: James Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: FW: escape marquee
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From: William Burge
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: escape marquee

dear group, I found another apes marquee showing ESCAPE IN
lincolnton, north carolina dated 1972. later on the theatre was closed.
a nice photo to be put in the marquee section. from william.
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From: William Burge
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:03 PM
Subject: planet items

dear group, here are some neat planet photos enjoy from william.
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Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

The Top 5: Spoilers and Twists. (No, I don't ruin The Cabin in the Woods).
Dallas Morning News (subscription) (blog)
Planet of the Apes (1968) - You maniacs! When Charlton Heston sees what's left of the Statue of Liberty on the horizon he realizes he's been on Earth all along. Oh, cruel irony. Five years later Heston got to blow the lid off Soylent Green. 3.
See all stories on this topic »

BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES Blu-ray | Flickr - Photo ...
Great 60s poster art, nowhere to be found on blu-ray packaging. Until now.
www.flickr.com/photos/owainwilson/6927207918/

Brickshelf Gallery - Planet-Of-The-Apes
Planet-Of-The-Apes. ... Folder Keywords: Planet Of The Apes, Lego Micro Vignette, Statue of Liberty, Lady Liberty, Collectable Minifigs Series 6. Folder created: ...
www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=501229

RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES ANIMATED REVIEW! - YouTube
"A Guy, A Fish, A Cat and a Movie" review the newest installment of the franchise. Created By ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc3HMXQaDbQ

Andy Serkis - Rise of the Planet of the Apes BD Interview (VIDEO ...
IGN chats one-on-one with the actor about the Rise of the Planet of the Apes Blu- ray, the movie's sequel and more.
videos.huffingtonpost.com/.../andy-serkis-rise-of-the-planet-of...

 

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Group: pota Message: 68732 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: Wouldn't Taylor laugh hard at THIS little flag in the desert?
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This clever futurist (whom I worked beside for years trying to help reform NASA to make it less unlike the more accomplished ANSA) recently commented about why most news that's published is bad. I think you will all enjoy this brief video about that topic and especially the bright futures that are potentially in store for us, thanks to technological trends:

http://tinyurl.com/767mnoy

Can you imagine how hard George "Skipper" Taylor would be laughing at that little-flag-in-the-desert of a video clip? LOL! :-)

A good weekend to all, and thanks John for the nice feedback earlier this week. FWIW, I'm a fiscally conservative white male who nevertheless reached those basically color-blind conclusions discussed below, of his own free will.

___


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Sometimes I feel that I can really relate to George Taylor's assessment of humanity.
>
> I relate most every time I watch the news!
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 68733 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/14/2012
Subject: Re: Vote Best Movie Franchise
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I feel the same way. I LOVED the original 3 Star Wars movies, especially the first. The prequels were temporarily fun, but their appeal has faded IMHO. The overall franchise has become commercialized at the expense of content, too. From the Ewoks to prequel fight scenes telegraphing the arrival of video games for folks to buy (cough cough), I am glad that the Star Wars franchise won't churn out more editions on the silver screen.

It is apparently the most lucrative SciFi franchise in history though. And nearly 1 in 5 voters nevertheless sided with POTA in the HuffPo poll. Not bad.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I've done my Simian duty and voted for Apes,but we're currently a LONG way behind Star Wars.I used to love Star Wars and recently bought the original novel at carboot sale (sort of like a garage sale but in a field).It was actually my reading book in primary school.But the prequels hve extinguished the flame---I just can't be bothered with Lucs-world any more.John.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > The Huffington Post is asking which is your favorite franchise, POTA or STAR WARS?
> >
> > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/best-movie-franchise-hunger-games-harry-potter-star-wars_n_1417692.htmlref=entertainment
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 68734 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/15/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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What are you saying about the rest of us who post?
 
 
In a message dated 4/13/2012 5:24:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnmermigas@... writes:
Nice to see someone with half a brain make a post. I agree with your assertions and with your observations. Very good post, Take care, John M.
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Group: pota Message: 68735 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/15/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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Apparently the rule of thumb is
if they agree with you, you have brains.
If not, you don't, even if you are right.  ; )
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/13/2012 9:57:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
I thought someone with half a brain was making posts. >: (
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Group: pota Message: 68736 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Vote Best Movie Franchise
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it's maybe testament to the depth of the original Apes that it could survive, intact, it's own Phantom Menace moment with the Burton movie---if anything, it actually enhanced my appreciation for the originals.On the topic of movie titles, I've read that the Avengers movie has been hiding behind the title 'Group Hug'! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
>
> I feel the same way. I LOVED the original 3 Star Wars movies, especially the first. The prequels were temporarily fun, but their appeal has faded IMHO. The overall franchise has become commercialized at the expense of content, too. From the Ewoks to prequel fight scenes telegraphing the arrival of video games for folks to buy (cough cough), I am glad that the Star Wars franchise won't churn out more editions on the silver screen.
>
> It is apparently the most lucrative SciFi franchise in history though. And nearly 1 in 5 voters nevertheless sided with POTA in the HuffPo poll. Not bad.
>
> __
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > I've done my Simian duty and voted for Apes,but we're currently a LONG way behind Star Wars.I used to love Star Wars and recently bought the original novel at carboot sale (sort of like a garage sale but in a field).It was actually my reading book in primary school.But the prequels hve extinguished the flame---I just can't be bothered with Lucs-world any more.John.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > The Huffington Post is asking which is your favorite franchise, POTA or STAR WARS?
> > >
> > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/best-movie-franchise-hunger-games-harry-potter-star-wars_n_1417692.htmlref=entertainment
> > >
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 68737 From: Pawfan Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: The Ape
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Is it just me, or does General Titus in this week's THE APES look like he's been imbibing one too many banana sundaes? He's a bit of a chunky monkey isn't he?Ursus was obsessed with food too, so maybe it's a gorilla weakness? Great issue, as always. John, Scrolls.
>
>
Awesome read! "The General seems more huggable than just a few years ago
one of his grandchildren mentioned^^"
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Group: pota Message: 68738 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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I just was happy that someone has the open mindness to post a good post IMHO. The fact that your getting alittle testy with two posts in a row about the same thing and want a retort immediatly and that you are taking it personally when its just an expression about posters everywhere is just proving my point. I didnt say Lord Zero had half a brain...Lighten up. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Apparently the rule of thumb is
> if they agree with you, you have brains.
> If not, you don't, even if you are right. ; )
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/13/2012 9:57:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> veetus@... writes:
>
> I thought someone with half a brain was making posts. >: (
>
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Group: pota Message: 68739 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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My half brain is wondering whether a 2013 release date might be a big plus for RISE 2---the other main franchises will be either in a 'gap year' or already over.RISE 2 might have a fairly clear run.Then again, maybe I'm getting too excited.Do we know when RISE 2's production is likely to start? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> I just was happy that someone has the open mindness to post a good post IMHO. The fact that your getting alittle testy with two posts in a row about the same thing and want a retort immediatly and that you are taking it personally when its just an expression about posters everywhere is just proving my point. I didnt say Lord Zero had half a brain...Lighten up. John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Apparently the rule of thumb is
> > if they agree with you, you have brains.
> > If not, you don't, even if you are right. ; )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/13/2012 9:57:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > veetus@ writes:
> >
> > I thought someone with half a brain was making posts. >: (
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 68740 From: James Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

space1970: PLANET OF THE APES (1974) TV Guide Ad
When I was 9 years-old, I looked forward to nothing on television as much as I looked forward to the weekly, all-new, adventures on the Planet Of The Apes.
space1970.blogspot.com/.../planet-of-apes-1974-tv-guide-ad.h...

Triplecast 009-Twist Ending Movies “Planet of the Apes” :: Golden ...
In this episode of Triplecast, we wrap up our series of podcasts about movies with twist endings with the 1968 sci-fi fantasy, Planet of the Apes.
www.goldenspiralmedia.com/triplecast-009-twist-ending-movi...

Planet Of The Apes | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Micro build featuring the final scene of the classic sci-fi Planet Of The Apes (1968 ). Lego Collectable Minifig Series 6 Statue of Liberty included.
www.flickr.com/photos/praiter_yed/7065652395/

 

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Group: pota Message: 68741 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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Finally a John with half a brain has posted! 2013 will see plenty of sequels to last year's movies: "Smurfs 2", "Thor 2", "Fast Six", "Muppets 2", "Rise 2"... did I say "Rise 2"? Then it must be so!


From: johnroche49
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:27 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Inflation Theory



My half brain is wondering whether a 2013 release date might be a big plus for RISE 2---the other main franchises will be either in a 'gap year' or already over.RISE 2 might have a fairly clear run.Then again, maybe I'm getting too excited.Do we know when RISE 2's production is likely to start? John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 68742 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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My half brain is wondering whether a 2013 release date might be a big plus for RISE 2---the other main franchises will be either in a 'gap year' or already over.RISE 2 might have a fairly clear run.Then again, maybe I'm getting too excited.Do we know when RISE 2's production is likely to start? John, Scrolls.



It won't start in time for a 2013 release.  I'll bet they don't even have a finished script yet.
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Group: pota Message: 68743 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/16/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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When has a non-finished script ever stopped them before?


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 7:58 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Inflation Theory






My half brain is wondering whether a 2013 release date might be a big plus for RISE 2---the other main franchises will be either in a 'gap year' or already over.RISE 2 might have a fairly clear run.Then again, maybe I'm getting too excited.Do we know when RISE 2's production is likely to start? John, Scrolls.




It won't start in time for a 2013 release. I'll bet they don't even have a finished script yet.
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Group: pota Message: 68744 From: Dario Sciola Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Conspiracy Review
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Group: pota Message: 68745 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Inflation Theory
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So, with only Star Trek to 'consider', RISE 2 will OWN 2013!!! Although THOR 2 will be excellent too, obviously.Now I need the rumour/leak mill on script and casting to begin for RISE 2 and I can float about like Mutley after getting a medal in 'Catch the Pigeon'.I love all the misleading speculation and hints--it's part of the journey.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Finally a John with half a brain has posted! 2013 will see plenty of sequels to last year's movies: "Smurfs 2", "Thor 2", "Fast Six", "Muppets 2", "Rise 2"... did I say "Rise 2"? Then it must be so!
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:27 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Inflation Theory
>
>
>
> My half brain is wondering whether a 2013 release date might be a big plus for RISE 2---the other main franchises will be either in a 'gap year' or already over.RISE 2 might have a fairly clear run.Then again, maybe I'm getting too excited.Do we know when RISE 2's production is likely to start? John, Scrolls.
>
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Group: pota Message: 68746 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
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POTA was on the telly last night and, obviously, having already seen it more times than I've seen my Mother, I proceeded to sit down with some sweets and watch it again.Two points arose.First, my Wife, who was Facebooking in the background, suddenly exclaimed that it all 'now made sense', now that she's seen RISE.Not a big poll, but maybe that's how the public in general see it?
Second, and why this never bugged me before I don't know,I wonder what happened to Julius between Planet and his disappearance before Beneath? He managed to let a caged human escape TWICE from his custody, so I'm wondering if, just maybe, Julius was told by the Ministry of Science that his talents could be better utilised elsewhere? John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 68747 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Conspiracy Review
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Great review. Thanks for sharing Dario!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
> My long overdue review of Conspiracy:
>
> http://lazaruslair.wordpress.com/2012/04/17/conspiracy-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-2011/
>
> Dario
>

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Group: pota Message: 68748 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
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He was fired by the Ministry and then opened a small business serving fresh squeezed orange juice;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> POTA was on the telly last night and, obviously, having already seen it more times than I've seen my Mother, I proceeded to sit down with some sweets and watch it again.Two points arose.First, my Wife, who was Facebooking in the background, suddenly exclaimed that it all 'now made sense', now that she's seen RISE.Not a big poll, but maybe that's how the public in general see it?
> Second, and why this never bugged me before I don't know,I wonder what happened to Julius between Planet and his disappearance before Beneath? He managed to let a caged human escape TWICE from his custody, so I'm wondering if, just maybe, Julius was told by the Ministry of Science that his talents could be better utilised elsewhere? John, Scrolls.
>

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Group: pota Message: 68749 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
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so I'm wondering if, just maybe, Julius was told by the Ministry of Science that his talents could be better utilized elsewhere? John, Scrolls.




He got a job working for the Hunt Club.... shoveling s**t in the stables.
 
He was unhappily shoveling one day when suddenly.... the world came to an end.
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Group: pota Message: 68750 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeologic
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Perhaps Julius got fed up with Ape City management and branched out on his own, somewhere? Perhaps he pursued unauthorized archaeological quests in the Forbidden Zone (etc.) in hopes that someday history would no longer have to stand still...

Please note: this speculation of mine was inspired by the following movie that's worth seeing if you get time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapa_Nui_(film)


Greetings to all from Houston...

___

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> so I'm wondering if, just maybe, Julius was told by the Ministry of Science that his talents could be better utilized elsewhere? John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> He got a job working for the Hunt Club.... shoveling s**t in the stables.
>
> He was unhappily shoveling one day when suddenly.... the world came to an end.
>
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Group: pota Message: 68751 From: Pawfan Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeol
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
>
> Perhaps Julius got fed up with Ape City management and branched out on his own, somewhere? Perhaps he pursued unauthorized archaeological quests in the Forbidden Zone (etc.) in hopes that someday history would no longer have to stand still...
>
> Please note: this speculation of mine was inspired by the following movie that's worth seeing if you get time:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapa_Nui_(film)
>
>
> Greetings to all from Houston...
>
> ___
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
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> > so I'm wondering if, just maybe, Julius was told by the Ministry of Science that his talents could be better utilized elsewhere? John, Scrolls.
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> > He got a job working for the Hunt Club.... shoveling s**t in the stables.
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> > He was unhappily shoveling one day when suddenly.... the world came to an end.
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To bad, Julius never escaped on the ship that Dr. Milo, Cornelius, and Zira was in. There was enough room on that vessel for a crew of four or more. He was just very good at hiding, possibly.
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Group: pota Message: 68752 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeol
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Probably Lucius hit him too hard and he died from severe brain hemorrhaging. Violence is not a game!


From: georgetaylor68
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:11 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeological quests?




Perhaps Julius got fed up with Ape City management and branched out on his own, somewhere? Perhaps he pursued unauthorized archaeological quests in the Forbidden Zone (etc.) in hopes that someday history would no longer have to stand still...

Please note: this speculation of mine was inspired by the following movie that's worth seeing if you get time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapa_Nui_(film)

Greetings to all from Houston...
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Group: pota Message: 68753 From: Stuart Drucker Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeol
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That would suggest a good idea for a fanfic: what would have happened if Dr. Milo didn’t get strangled by the gorilla in Escape? Extra points if you can work in Julius….

 

From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pawfan
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:36 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeological quests?

 

 



--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
>
> Perhaps Julius got fed up with Ape City management and branched out on his own, somewhere? Perhaps he pursued unauthorized archaeological quests in the Forbidden Zone (etc.) in hopes that someday history would no longer have to stand still...
>
> Please note: this speculation of mine was inspired by the following movie that's worth seeing if you get time:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapa_Nui_(film)
>
>
> Greetings to all from Houston...
>
> ___
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > so I'm wondering if, just maybe, Julius was told by the Ministry of Science that his talents could be better utilized elsewhere? John, Scrolls.
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > He got a job working for the Hunt Club.... shoveling s**t in the stables.
> >
> > He was unhappily shoveling one day when suddenly.... the world came to an end.
> >
>
To bad, Julius never escaped on the ship that Dr. Milo, Cornelius, and Zira was in. There was enough room on that vessel for a crew of four or more. He was just very good at hiding, possibly.

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Group: pota Message: 68754 From: Pawfan Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: Re: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeol
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Probably Lucius hit him too hard and he died from severe brain hemorrhaging. Violence is not a game!
>
>

Even in the movie, Lucius is not strong enough to brain
a gorilla permanently! Knocking him out just severely
stunned him long enough for taylor and Nova to get away.
POTA gorillas are still a tough lot. Take a bit more to
take crash them permanently.
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Group: pota Message: 68755 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
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Buck was on "Here comes the Brides" during most of this time (68-70) if my brain is correct. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> POTA was on the telly last night and, obviously, having already seen it more times than I've seen my Mother, I proceeded to sit down with some sweets and watch it again.Two points arose.First, my Wife, who was Facebooking in the background, suddenly exclaimed that it all 'now made sense', now that she's seen RISE.Not a big poll, but maybe that's how the public in general see it?
> Second, and why this never bugged me before I don't know,I wonder what happened to Julius between Planet and his disappearance before Beneath? He managed to let a caged human escape TWICE from his custody, so I'm wondering if, just maybe, Julius was told by the Ministry of Science that his talents could be better utilised elsewhere? John, Scrolls.
>
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Group: pota Message: 68756 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: Re: Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeol
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Actually, I always DID worry a bit about how they left Julius tied up in that 'crucifixion' pose, because crucifiction victims tended to die from suffocation due to that pose.Poor old Julius really does get the crap beaten out of him, doesn't he? Maybe it's that stinking cigar?
Anyway, research on Wikipedia confirms that, acknowledging a previously clandestine homosexual relationship that had developed in the close confines of the lab, Julius and Dr Galen absconded together and formed a society capaigning against the Right to Bare Arms.Who says you can't trust Wikipedia? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Probably Lucius hit him too hard and he died from severe brain hemorrhaging. Violence is not a game!
>
>
> From: georgetaylor68
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:11 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Did Julius reject Ape City and embark upon unauthorized archaeological quests?
>
>
>
>
> Perhaps Julius got fed up with Ape City management and branched out on his own, somewhere? Perhaps he pursued unauthorized archaeological quests in the Forbidden Zone (etc.) in hopes that someday history would no longer have to stand still...
>
> Please note: this speculation of mine was inspired by the following movie that's worth seeing if you get time:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapa_Nui_(film)
>
> Greetings to all from Houston...
>
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Group: pota Message: 68757 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: Six Million Dollar Apes
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A friend (yes, I DO have a friend) has bought the 40 disc Six Million Dollar Man box set and the bastard has been torturing me with how good it is.There's even a documentary devoted to the action figures (whimper) and an interview with Jack Cole (scream) about the opening credits.He doesn't mention Apes apparently,but wouldn't it be awesome to interview this guy (maybe for SCROLLS?) just to get some insight on the greatest opening credits ever.Any ideas on contacting him--he was definitely still around in 2010, apparently.Why can't APES get a set like this, with treats, documentaries and interviews? It's not fair.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 68758 From: James Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: FW: planet photo
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From: William Burge
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:33 PM
Subject: planet photo

dear group, here are some neat planet photos. from william
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Group: pota Message: 68759 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: Re: Six Million Dollar Apes
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From what I understand, when Time/Life releases a TV show on DVD it is usually incredible (such as "Get Smart"). Usually the studios, like Fox, have a lot of fish to fry, so when they hand off something to another company (Rhino, Time/Life) they put in the extra effort. The "Barney Miller" sets weren't selling, so Sony handed it off to Rhino, which did an incredible job, unearthing the rare pilot, interviewing the actors (though not Beneath's James Gregory or Gregory Sierra), etc. One of those companies might do a great job with the POTA TV show or "Return to the POTA" but now that POTA is hot again Fox will probably hold onto them. Too bad, as time is running out to talk to Harper, Naughton, Colman, et al.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:24 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Six Million Dollar Apes



A friend (yes, I DO have a friend) has bought the 40 disc Six Million Dollar Man box set and the bastard has been torturing me with how good it is.There's even a documentary devoted to the action figures (whimper) and an interview with Jack Cole (scream) about the opening credits.He doesn't mention Apes apparently,but wouldn't it be awesome to interview this guy (maybe for SCROLLS?) just to get some insight on the greatest opening credits ever.Any ideas on contacting him--he was definitely still around in 2010, apparently.Why can't APES get a set like this, with treats, documentaries and interviews? It's not fair.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 68760 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: "Rise" director and Charlize Theron hooking up
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Get your mind out of the gutter! What I mean is "Rise of the POTA" director Rupert Wyatt is reportedly going to direct a sci-fi movie called "Agent 13" starring Charlize Theron. "Rise" has made the director hot! hot! hot! Does this mean there's a snag on "Rise 2"? Dunno, but last I heard Wyatt is under contract to do the sequel next (he had to turn down doing the movie "Londongrad" so he could get apeing pronto). Probably this is just another for his "To Do" list but I'll take any news I can get from the "Rise 2" camp.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Rise-Planet-Apes-Filmmaker-Rupert-Wyatt-Direct-Agent-13-Charlize-Theron-30510.html"
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Group: pota Message: 68761 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 4/18/2012
Subject: POTA: Legacy Collection
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If anyone here is in need of the Legacy Collection 6 DVD Box Set, please contact me off list.
 
Thanks,
 
Chris L.
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Group: pota Message: 68762 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Six Million Dollar Apes
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I'd love to have a proper Apes TV Series set, with commentaries from Ron and Booth.The TV Series is what got me into Apes and, merchandising-wise,it was a trend setter.I wonder is it worth contacting Time/Life? I have no shame or pride about making myself look a dick in these things.John,Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> From what I understand, when Time/Life releases a TV show on DVD it is usually incredible (such as "Get Smart"). Usually the studios, like Fox, have a lot of fish to fry, so when they hand off something to another company (Rhino, Time/Life) they put in the extra effort. The "Barney Miller" sets weren't selling, so Sony handed it off to Rhino, which did an incredible job, unearthing the rare pilot, interviewing the actors (though not Beneath's James Gregory or Gregory Sierra), etc. One of those companies might do a great job with the POTA TV show or "Return to the POTA" but now that POTA is hot again Fox will probably hold onto them. Too bad, as time is running out to talk to Harper, Naughton, Colman, et al.
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 68763 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/19/2012
Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
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    This is a very interesting subject on Julius.  I'd been wondering the same things.
     
    Zach 
     
     
     
     
    -------Original Message-------
     
    Date: 4/18/2012 6:21:36 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
     
     

    Buck was on "Here comes the Brides" during most of this time (68-70) if my brain is correct. John M.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
    >
    > POTA was on the telly last night and, obviously, having already seen it more times than I've seen my Mother, I proceeded to sit down with some sweets and watch it again.Two points arose.First, my Wife, who was Facebooking in the background, suddenly exclaimed that it all 'now made sense', now that she's seen RISE.Not a big poll, but maybe that's how the public in general see it?
    > Second, and why this never bugged me before I don't know,I wonder what happened to Julius between Planet and his disappearance before Beneath? He managed to let a caged human escape TWICE from his custody, so I'm wondering if, just maybe, Julius was told by the Ministry of Science that his talents could be better utilised elsewhere? John, Scrolls.
    >

     
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    Group: pota Message: 68764 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: Re: Six Million Dollar Apes
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    I doubt it would happen but it probably wouldn't hurt to give them the idea. POTA seems more a Rhino show than a Time/Life (though POTA deals with time, and life).


    From: johnroche49
    Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:01 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Re: Six Million Dollar Apes



    I'd love to have a proper Apes TV Series set, with commentaries from Ron and Booth.The TV Series is what got me into Apes and, merchandising-wise,it was a trend setter.I wonder is it worth contacting Time/Life? I have no shame or pride about making myself look a dick in these things.John,Scrolls.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > From what I understand, when Time/Life releases a TV show on DVD it is usually incredible (such as "Get Smart"). Usually the studios, like Fox, have a lot of fish to fry, so when they hand off something to another company (Rhino, Time/Life) they put in the extra effort. The "Barney Miller" sets weren't selling, so Sony handed it off to Rhino, which did an incredible job, unearthing the rare pilot, interviewing the actors (though not Beneath's James Gregory or Gregory Sierra), etc. One of those companies might do a great job with the POTA TV show or "Return to the POTA" but now that POTA is hot again Fox will probably hold onto them. Too bad, as time is running out to talk to Harper, Naughton, Colman, et al.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 68765 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
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    What disappearance? There was ONE scene in the zoo/jail. Julius gets a day or two off!

    On Apr 19, 2012 5:52 AM, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

    This is a very interesting subject on Julius. I'd been wondering the same things.
    Zach
    -------Original Message-------
    Date: 4/18/2012 6:21:36 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....

    Buck was on "Here comes the Brides" during most of this time (68-70) if my brain is correct. John M.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
    >
    > POTA was on the telly last night and, obviously, having already seen it more times than I've seen my Mother, I proceeded to sit down with some sweets and watch it again.Two points arose.First, my Wife, who was Facebooking in the background, suddenly exclaimed that it all 'now made sense', now that she's seen RISE.Not a big poll, but maybe that's how the public in general see it?
    > Second, and why this never bugged me before I don't know,I wonder what happened to Julius between Planet and his disappearance before Beneath? He managed to let a caged human escape TWICE from his custody, so I'm wondering if, just maybe, Julius was told by the Ministry of Science that his talents could be better utilised elsewhere? John, Scrolls.
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 68766 From: James Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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    Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     

    Movie Review: Rise of the Planet of the Apes | NowPublic News ...
    Movie Review: Rise of the Planet of the Apes. ... It also sets up the possibility of a sequel, in keeping with previous "Planet of the Apes" movies. "Rise of the ...
    www.nowpublic.com/culture/movie-review-rise-planet-apes

    Planet of The Apes alt.2 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
    Planet of The Apes alt.2. ... Newest photo →; Planet of The Apes alt. 1.5 · Planet of The Apes alt.2 · Planet of The Apes alt.1 · Planet of The Apes ...
    www.flickr.com/photos/kevinacarter/6940125376/

    Summer fests and flicks on tap
    Tampabay.com
    Other Summer Classics include the non-alcoholic but still fun Planet of the Apes (July 1), Richard Roundtree as Shaft (July 8), Johnny Depp as Edward Scissorhands (July 15) and Marilyn Monroe proving Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (July 29).
    See all stories on this topic »

     

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    Group: pota Message: 68767 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: Re: "Rise" director and Charlize Theron hooking up
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    Get your mind out of the gutter! What I mean is "Rise of the POTA" director Rupert Wyatt is reportedly going to direct a sci-fi movie called "Agent 13" starring Charlize Theron. "Rise" has made the director hot! hot! hot! Does this mean there's a snag on "Rise 2"? Dunno, but last I heard Wyatt is under contract to do the sequel next (he had to turn down doing the movie "Londongrad" so he could get apeing pronto). Probably this is just another for his "To Do" list but I'll take any news I can get from the "Rise 2" camp.

    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Rise-Planet-Apes-Filmmaker-Rupert-Wyatt-Direct-Agent-13-Charlize-Theron-30510.html"



    This is what Wyatt will be doing later this year while pre-production on RISE 2 ramps up for a 2014 release.
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    Group: pota Message: 68768 From: caesarape1 Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: Favorite POTA Character
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    Of all the Planet of the Apes characters from the movies, books, tv series's and comic books, who is your favorite. I would have to go with the original Caesar, I really liked his character development and his turn in Conquest. The new Caesar was good, but he was much more compassionate.
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    Group: pota Message: 68769 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
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    Hi, dear Ape friends! My favorite POTA character from the movies, books, TV series's and comic books was DOCTOR ZIRA

    Saulo Adami
    From Brazil

    De: caesarape1 <abcnemail@...>
    Para: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 19 de Abril de 2012 14:38
    Assunto: [pota] Favorite POTA Character

     
    Of all the Planet of the Apes characters from the movies, books, tv series's and comic books, who is your favorite. I would have to go with the original Caesar, I really liked his character development and his turn in Conquest. The new Caesar was good, but he was much more compassionate.



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    Group: pota Message: 68770 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
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    In some ways, I'll have to vote for Nova. I bet Linda Harrison put in more time practicing per-spoken-word than all the other actors. Besides, what modern actresses have such talent?

    http://www.scifihottie.com/images/categories/64.jpg

    Snookie? Ha! Meanwhile, am I the only one who wonders why she didn't inspire an adult-themed spinoff? The Germans came close, admittedly:

    http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/08_03/1970/65462/l_65462_6f1b15a5.jpg

    Perhaps a fitting title would have been Probing on the POTA?

    ___

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "caesarape1" <abcnemail@...> wrote:
    >
    > Of all the Planet of the Apes characters from the movies, books, tv series's and comic books, who is your favorite. I would have to go with the original Caesar, I really liked his character development and his turn in Conquest. The new Caesar was good, but he was much more compassionate.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 68771 From: Shane Miller Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
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    Mine has always been His Excellency...Governor Breck.

    From: caesarape1 <abcnemail@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:38 PM
    Subject: [pota] Favorite POTA Character

     
    Of all the Planet of the Apes characters from the movies, books, tv series's and comic books, who is your favorite. I would have to go with the original Caesar, I really liked his character development and his turn in Conquest. The new Caesar was good, but he was much more compassionate.



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    Group: pota Message: 68772 From: James OBeirne Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
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    mine is Urko, no contest.
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    Group: pota Message: 68773 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: Chimp mangling victim in CT sues state for $150 million...
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    Chimp mangling victim in CT sues state for $150 million...

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/04/18/exclusive-charla-nashs-lawyer-blames-state-for-chimp-attack-seeks-150-million/

    I'd comment that "and she didn't even get a finger bitten off like we saw happen in Rise, either" but I don't want to make light of her personal tragedy.

    Is there any documentation of a potential assertion that chimps are more dangerous, per capita, than humans? I've litigated in CT and I'm not aware that one can sue that state (or any others) for not "incarcerating" dangerous people. Indeed, California's been told by the U.S. Supreme Ct. to RELEASE prisoners because they were overcrowded and otherwise insufficient. It's expensive to incarcerate. A difference in this case is the alleged lack of a license for the chimp, I guess.

    At least Caesar was incarcerated instead of being euthanised.
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    Group: pota Message: 68774 From: gort65 Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
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    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Luiz Saulo Adami <apedami@...> wrote:
    >
    > Hi, dear Ape friends! My favorite POTA character from the movies, books, TV series's and comic books was DOCTOR ZIRA
    >

    I'm with you. Dr Zira is also my favourite character in PotA. The real hero of Apes, despite the arguments, now and then, that she is a little compromised (which just makes her more rounded as a character).


    Graham
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    Group: pota Message: 68775 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/19/2012
    Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
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    Leo Davidson, as portrayed by Mark Wahlberg. No, wait! Can I change my answer? I'd say Urko. Can we have a different answer every day?


    From: caesarape1
    Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:38 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Favorite POTA Character



    Of all the Planet of the Apes characters from the movies, books, tv series's and comic books, who is your favorite. I would have to go with the original Caesar, I really liked his character development and his turn in Conquest. The new Caesar was good, but he was much more compassionate.
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    Group: pota Message: 68776 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/20/2012
    Subject: Re: Six Million Dollar Apes
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    Commentaries from ape extras Eldon Burke & Ron Stein and guest stars like
    Jackie Earle Haley would be cool...



    In a message dated 4/19/2012 7:51:15 AM Central Daylight Time,
    johnroche49@... writes:


    > I'd love to have a proper Apes TV Series set, with commentaries from Ron
    > and Booth.

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    Group: pota Message: 68777 From: dave Date: 4/20/2012
    Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
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    I think I'd go with Galen from the TV show (not Dr Galen from the movie). Probably for much the same reasons Roddy liked him - more 'larky' I think he may have said.


    Dave


    > From: caesarape1
    > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:38 AM
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [pota] Favorite POTA Character
    >
    >
    >
    > Of all the Planet of the Apes characters from the movies, books, tv series's and comic books, who is your favorite. I would have to go with the original Caesar, I really liked his character development and his turn in Conquest. The new Caesar was good, but he was much more compassionate.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 68778 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/20/2012
    Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
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    Sorry, we have to take Jeff's first answer.So, Jeff's favourite Apes character is for now, and ever more,Leo Davidson.Left field choice if you ask me.I'd always pick Galen.Still, Marky Mark IS quoted in this month's TOTAL FILM as saying 'I haven't seen ROTPOTA,but I've heard it was pretty damn good.Well, ours wasn't.It is what it is'.
    So, answers on a postcard--what IS Wahlberg's POTA?First answers only,accepted.John, Scrolls.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > Leo Davidson, as portrayed by Mark Wahlberg. No, wait! Can I change my answer? I'd say Urko. Can we have a different answer every day?
    >
    >
    > From: caesarape1
    > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:38 AM
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [pota] Favorite POTA Character
    >
    >
    >
    > Of all the Planet of the Apes characters from the movies, books, tv series's and comic books, who is your favorite. I would have to go with the original Caesar, I really liked his character development and his turn in Conquest. The new Caesar was good, but he was much more compassionate.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 68779 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/20/2012
    Subject: Re: Favorite POTA Character
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      I have always been a fan of Zira.  Because she tried to stand for truth and justice.
       
      Zach   
       
       
       
       
      -------Original Message-------
       
      Date: 4/19/2012 6:37:09 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Favorite POTA Character
       
       

      Mine has always been His Excellency...Governor Breck.

      From: caesarape1 <abcnemail@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:38 PM
      Subject: [pota] Favorite POTA Character

       
      Of all the Planet of the Apes characters from the movies, books, tv series's and comic books, who is your favorite. I would have to go with the original Caesar, I really liked his character development and his turn in Conquest. The new Caesar was good, but he was much more compassionate.



       
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      Group: pota Message: 68780 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/20/2012
      Subject: The Ape
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      Another week, another Friday and another new issue of THE APE is online.

      To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

      Have a great weekend everyone!

      Visit all the Group's special features including:

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      Group: pota Message: 68781 From: sparkytb2005 Date: 4/20/2012
      Subject: For the first time in 37 years....
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      I get to see the 1968 original on the big screen on Monday courtesy of the Prince Charles Cinema, Leicester Square, London W1.

      Should be interesting...
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      Group: pota Message: 68782 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 4/20/2012
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      Yes yes yes! Stop the Presses
      a new APE is OUT!
      Going to be a groovy FRIDAY!

      On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 6:07 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

      Another week, another Friday and another new issue of THE APE is online.

      To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

      Have a great weekend everyone!

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      Group: pota Message: 68783 From: dave Date: 4/20/2012
      Subject: FOX & 3D
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      Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

       

      'Chimpanzee': Oh, The Humanity!
      NPR
      But it's dead on; this escape to the planet of the apes is anthropomorphic to a fault. The story, delivered excitedly by narrator Tim Allen, is about a "precious baby boy," given the only-in-Hollywood tag of Oscar by filmmakers Alastair Fothergill and ...
      See all stories on this topic »

      Rise of the Planet of the Apes | SPACE AVALANCHE
      Well, looks like Jon finally got rid of that f*ckin old, fat, unfunny cat and now trys out an ape as a pet. About time I say :D. Ferr said: 2012.04.16 23:54. The face of ...
      www.spaceavalanche.com/2012/.../rise-of-the-planet-of-the-ap...

       

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      Group: pota Message: 68785 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/20/2012
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      Welcome to the group! Please tell us about yourself. Where are you from? When did you first become a POTA fan?

      To answer your question, the original Caesar played by Roddy McDowall is my favortive character too. Of course, Julie (Lisa's maid in Battle) played by the great Collen Camp will always hold a special place in my heart ;-)


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "caesarape1" <abcnemail@...> wrote:
      >
      > Of all the Planet of the Apes characters from the movies, books, tv series's and comic books, who is your favorite. I would have to go with the original Caesar, I really liked his character development and his turn in Conquest. The new Caesar was good, but he was much more compassionate.
      >

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      Good point!

      Of course there were several characters from Planet who were not seen in Beneath; Lucius, Dr. Maximus, Dr. Honorius, etc.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Barkley <skintricks62@...> wrote:
      >
      > What disappearance? There was ONE scene in the zoo/jail. Julius gets a day
      > or two off!

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      Group: pota Message: 68787 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/20/2012
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      These are damn fine costumes! better shot in the 2nd pic....
      anybody here claim responsibility??

      http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/Film-characters-storm-theatre/story-15864142-detail/story.html/div>

      Tim

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      That's great Mark! Is it part of a special film festival? Be sure to give us some details after the screening.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@...> wrote:
      >
      > I get to see the 1968 original on the big screen on Monday courtesy of the Prince Charles Cinema, Leicester Square, London W1.
      >
      > Should be interesting...
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 68789 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/20/2012
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      <http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/04/19/i-robot-first-wave-of-fox-movies-being-converted-for-d-bluray/>

      Let's hope no one thinks it's a good idea to convert POTA.

      Dave



      If 3D hangs on -- and I'm talking a decade or more here -- but if the industry keeps it alive for a long time, they may eventually get around to converting many classic films to 3D, but the costs and time involved will have to come way down.  I think they spent 18 months and I don't know how much converting TITANIC to 3D.  It's still just a gimmick though, so maybe it'll happen, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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      On 4/20/2012 10:04 AM, Haristas@... wrote:
       

      If 3D hangs on -- and I'm talking a decade or more here -- but if the industry keeps it alive for a long time, they may eventually get around to converting many classic films to 3D, but the costs and time involved will have to come way down.  I think they spent 18 months and I don't know how much converting TITANIC to 3D.

      $18 million was the figure I read.  About 6 times more than what studios usually spend on post-conversion 3D.  It was worth it, too.  James Cameron ensured that it was done right for TITANIC.  (No, the movie didn't need to be made 3D, but since they were determined to do it, I'm glad the studio listened to Cameron and ponied up enough money to do it right.)

      Hunter

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      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
      >
      > These are damn fine costumes! better shot in the 2nd pic....
      > anybody here claim responsibility??
      >
      > http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/Film-characters-storm-theatre/story-15864142-detail/story.html"
      >
      > Tim
      >

      Although I only live about ten miles from Redhill in Surrey, I can promise you that it wasn't me. Nice costume, though.


      Graham
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      Group: pota Message: 68792 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/20/2012
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      There have been rumors that Lucius was in the crowd picketing when the Grand Army of the Apes were heading out towards the Forbidden Zone...
       
      As far as Julius is concerned, maybe he was still recovering from the blow on the head that Lucius gave him when the latter was helping Taylor and Nova to escape.
       
      Zach   
       
       
       
       
      -------Original Message-------
       
      Date: 04/20/12 08:48:22
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
       
       

      Good point!

      Of course there were several characters from Planet who were not seen in Beneath; Lucius, Dr. Maximus, Dr. Honorius, etc.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Barkley <skintricks62@...> wrote:
      >
      > What disappearance? There was ONE scene in the zoo/jail. Julius gets a day
      > or two off!

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      Group: pota Message: 68793 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/20/2012
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      Universal got the honor of making that "Agent 13" movie with director Rupert ("Rise of the POTA") Wyatt and Charlize Theron (lots of studios wanted it, including Fox). But "Rise 2" comes first. Contract sez.

      http://www.deadline.com/2012/04/universal-acquiring-agent-13-package-with-charlize-theron-and-rupert-wyatt/
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      Group: pota Message: 68794 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/20/2012
      Subject: Re: Anyone we know?
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      David Wells and Jonathan Reason.

      On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:06 AM, gort65 <gort65@...> wrote:



      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
      >
      > These are damn fine costumes! better shot in the 2nd pic....
      > anybody here claim responsibility??
      >
      > http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/Film-characters-storm-theatre/story-15864142-detail/story.html"
      >
      > Tim
      >

      Although I only live about ten miles from Redhill in Surrey, I can promise you that it wasn't me. Nice costume, though.

      Graham


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      Group: pota Message: 68795 From: Sherri Bragg Date: 4/20/2012
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      Perdix (from the TV show) who stood up to those terrible Dragoons!  
      Arashi the Banjo Cat

      From: caesarape1 <abcnemail@...>
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:38 PM
      Subject: [pota] Favorite POTA Character

       
      Of all the Planet of the Apes characters from the movies, books, tv series's and comic books, who is your favorite. I would have to go with the original Caesar, I really liked his character development and his turn in Conquest. The new Caesar was good, but he was much more compassionate.



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      Group: pota Message: 68796 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/21/2012
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      anyone planning to attend this event in full ape gear? Take photos please!!!

      On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:24 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

      That's great Mark! Is it part of a special film festival? Be sure to give us some details after the screening.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@...> wrote:
      >
      > I get to see the 1968 original on the big screen on Monday courtesy of the Prince Charles Cinema, Leicester Square, London W1.
      >
      > Should be interesting...
      >


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      Group: pota Message: 68797 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/21/2012
      Subject: Re: Six Million Dollar Apes
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      iI emailed Time Life and I've had a standard response saying it will be passed on to the relevant department for full response.If anyone has got the time it might be worth dropping them an email suggesting an Apes tv series release---who knows, it might light a spark.They're on TLCSMail@... . John,Scrolls.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
      >
      > Commentaries from ape extras Eldon Burke & Ron Stein and guest stars like
      > Jackie Earle Haley would be cool...
      >
      >
      >
      > In a message dated 4/19/2012 7:51:15 AM Central Daylight Time,
      > johnroche49@... writes:
      >
      >
      > > I'd love to have a proper Apes TV Series set, with commentaries from Ron
      > > and Booth.
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 68798 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/21/2012
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      What is it with the Surrey Apes connection? I know of a couple of Apes nuts who live there and I used to live in Godalming, darkest Surrey.It is certainly a fantastic costume---well worthy of Apemania in quality! John, Scrolls.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gort65" <gort65@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
      > >
      > > These are damn fine costumes! better shot in the 2nd pic....
      > > anybody here claim responsibility??
      > >
      > > http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/Film-characters-storm-theatre/story-15864142-detail/story.html"
      > >
      > > Tim
      > >
      >
      > Although I only live about ten miles from Redhill in Surrey, I can promise you that it wasn't me. Nice costume, though.
      >
      >
      > Graham
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 68799 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/21/2012
      Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
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      Well, Wyatt must be working on it now--he's not going to be sitting around picking his fleas so we must be looking at a 2013 release.Hubba, hubba!!! John, Scrolls.

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
      >
      > Universal got the honor of making that "Agent 13" movie with director Rupert ("Rise of the POTA") Wyatt and Charlize Theron (lots of studios wanted it, including Fox). But "Rise 2" comes first. Contract sez.
      >
      > http://www.deadline.com/2012/04/universal-acquiring-agent-13-package-with-charlize-theron-and-rupert-wyatt/
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 68800 From: James Date: 4/21/2012
      Subject: FW: planet stars on the walk of fame
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      From: William Burge
      Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 6:17 PM
      Subject: planet stars on the walk of fame

      dear group, here are the planet stars on the walk of fame. from william.
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      Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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      Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

       

      Hiking the M*A*S*H Set
      Metroblogging.com (blog)
      As a bonus, much of the original Planet of the Apes movie was shot there too. The entire M*A*S*H camp covers only an acre or so, shockingly less than it appears on tv. There's an ambulance and a Jeep from the show on site, rusted out as one might ...
      See all stories on this topic »

      This week's new film events
      The Guardian
      The 146 images on show document landmark movies such as The Seven Year Itch, Planet Of The Apes and Rebel Without A Cause, alongside Charlie Chaplin's Limelight and Antonioni's Zabriskie Point. And if that all feels a bit too low-tech, you can always ...
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      Group: pota Message: 68802 From: James Date: 4/21/2012
      Subject: FW: planet photos
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      From: William Burge
      Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 4:21 PM
      Subject: planet photos

      dear group, here are found some neat planet spaceship photos from march
      1968. from william.
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      Group: pota Message: 68803 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/21/2012
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      Lou Wagner/Lucius was not in that scene or in Beneath, other than in scenes lifted from the end of Planet. Joe Russo addressed this subject several years ago:

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "softparadeband" <softparadeband@...> wrote:
      >
      >Dear Folks--
      >
      > Lou Wagner never set foot on the set of BENEATH. The scene being
      > argued does not exist. I have also reviewed the DAILY PRODUCTION
      > REPORTS for the entire film. These records indicate EVERY TAKE of
      > EVERY SHOT filmed during production of the film. It's length, the
      > camera movement and the action depicted within the shot arer all
      > documented in long-hand. I have this information for all 4 sequels.
      > It is literally a BLUEPRINT of ALL shot footage, included OR deleted.
      > In addtion, I have all the Cast AND call sheets for the films,
      > indicating who was on the set on which days. NEGATIVE on all the
      > above regarding this scene and/or Lou Wagner. I hope this sets the
      > record straight-Joe Russo (co-author, PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED)

      http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/45500


      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
      >
      > There have been rumors that Lucius was in the crowd picketing when the Grand
      > Army of the Apes were heading out towards the Forbidden Zone...
      >
      > As far as Julius is concerned, maybe he was still recovering from the blow
      > on the head that Lucius gave him when the latter was helping Taylor and Nova
      > to escape.
      >
      > Zach
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 68804 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2012
      Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
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      Universal got the honor of making that "Agent 13" movie with director Rupert ("Rise of the POTA") Wyatt and Charlize Theron (lots of studios wanted it, including Fox). But "Rise 2" comes first. Contract sez.

      http://www.deadline.com/2012/04/universal-acquiring-agent-13-package-with-charlize-theron-and-rupert-wyatt/



      I'm going to bet that Fox has allowed Wyatt to direct this first while RISE 2 is still developing.  I can't see why this was announced if he's going to be tied up with RISE 2 for the next couple years, and I doubt Theron wants to wait for Wyatt either (She needs a new movie.), and I doubt very much that Fox wants to rush a sequel they have made such a priority.  If they do, trust me... it will suck.  We don't want RISE 2 to suck, do we?
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      Group: pota Message: 68805 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/21/2012
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      Forget it, sir! "Rise 2" is next! next! next! It's possible the script the writers came up with sucks, but time is no guarantee of quality. They spent a decade to reach Burton's POTA2001. "Rise" was developed since 2006 but all they did was try other writers and go back to the original script. It's all up to the writers and according to them they have this figured out as a trilogy. So they have been thinking about this before anyone said, "OK, Rise 2". Time is no guarantee of quality.
      For the record, "The Hollywood Reporter" sez this "Agent 13" that Wyatt is going to direct is based on a 1988 story. Sounds like "Indiana Jones".
      http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/charlize-theron-agent-13-universal-314702
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_13_The_Midnight_Avenger


      From: Haristas@...
      Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 9:48 AM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt






      Universal got the honor of making that "Agent 13" movie with director Rupert ("Rise of the POTA") Wyatt and Charlize Theron (lots of studios wanted it, including Fox). But "Rise 2" comes first. Contract sez.

      http://www.deadline.com/2012/04/universal-acquiring-agent-13-package-with-charlize-theron-and-rupert-wyatt/




      I'm going to bet that Fox has allowed Wyatt to direct this first while RISE 2 is still developing. I can't see why this was announced if he's going to be tied up with RISE 2 for the next couple years, and I doubt Theron wants to wait for Wyatt either (She needs a new movie.), and I doubt very much that Fox wants to rush a sequel they have made such a priority. If they do, trust me... it will suck. We don't want RISE 2 to suck, do we?
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      Group: pota Message: 68806 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/21/2012
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      Wow.  Sir, you have all of this information?  That's fantastic!  I've mentioned here as to how I'm sure there's a scene in BENEATH that shows Ursus, Zaius, and the Grand Army standing on a pile of rubble near the Radio City Music Hall marquee and Ursus gave the order for Caspay, the Verger of the Cathedral, and Adiposo to be shot down as they were running for cover.  In those records you mention, that's probably included too...do you have scans of it?
       
      Anyway, thanks so much for the updates and the information.  What you have is mind-boggling, to say the least!
       
      Zach 
       
       
       
       
      -------Original Message-------
       
      Date: 4/21/2012 8:36:23 AM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Re: Julius---you are the weakest link.....
       
       

      Lou Wagner/Lucius was not in that scene or in Beneath, other than in scenes lifted from the end of Planet. Joe Russo addressed this subject several years ago:

      --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "softparadeband" <softparadeband@...> wrote:
      >
      >Dear Folks--
      >
      > Lou Wagner never set foot on the set of BENEATH. The scene being
      > argued does not exist. I have also reviewed the DAILY PRODUCTION
      > REPORTS for the entire film. These records indicate EVERY TAKE of
      > EVERY SHOT filmed during production of the film. It's length, the
      > camera movement and the action depicted within the shot arer all
      > documented in long-hand. I have this information for all 4 sequels.
      > It is literally a BLUEPRINT of ALL shot footage, included OR deleted.
      > In addtion, I have all the Cast AND call sheets for the films,
      > indicating who was on the set on which days. NEGATIVE on all the
      > above regarding this scene and/or Lou Wagner. I hope this sets the
      > record straight-Joe Russo (co-author, PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED)

      http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/45500

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      Group: pota Message: 68807 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/21/2012
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      Well-deserved stars, too!  Thanks for sharing.
       
      Zach   
       
       
       
       
      -------Original Message-------
       
      From: James
      Date: 4/21/2012 8:29:40 AM
      Subject: [pota] FW: planet stars on the walk of fame [12 Attachments]
       
       

      From: William Burge
      Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 6:17 PM
      Subject: planet stars on the walk of fame

      dear group,  here are the planet stars on the walk of fame. from william.

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      Group: pota Message: 68808 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2012
      Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
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      Forget it, sir! "Rise 2" is next! next! next! It's possible the script the writers came up with sucks, but time is no guarantee of quality. They spent a decade to reach Burton's POTA2001. "Rise" was developed since 2006 but all they did was try other writers and go back to the original script. It's all up to the writers and according to them they have this figured out as a trilogy. So they have been thinking about this before anyone said, "OK, Rise 2". Time is no guarantee of quality.



      I doubt they have even a finalized treatment much less anything near a shooting script yet.  It'll be months yet before pre-production is announced and months after that that shooting starts, plus this movie will have more SFX than the first, so post-production will take longer.  Fox is probably going to budget this movie at somewhere around $160 Million, so they're going to try hard to do it right.
       
      Get this all done and in theatres by summer 2013?!!!!!  Forget it, sir!  Just say "NOOOOOO!" to a rush job on RISE 2.
       
      P.S.
      Read between the lines the things you read in the trades.
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      Group: pota Message: 68809 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/21/2012
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      Travel back with me through the mists of time, children, to an age when Bill Blake and Paula Crist WERE the POTA (so said Marvel's POTA magazine). For many decades "Salvation on the POTA" had no sound. Recently, in 2012, the sound was found. 2012, that's only 3 years ago! No, wait, that's THIS year! So, let's go back through the mists of time, children.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_aUZasZ124
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      Group: pota Message: 68810 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/21/2012
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      Fox are a bunch of cheapskates. It'll get an "X-Men" budget. What, you think it'll get what the "Dark Knight" gets? Ha, ha, silly human! They will announce in May, shoot this summer and release in...
      2013.


      From: Haristas@...
      Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:47 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt






      Forget it, sir! "Rise 2" is next! next! next! It's possible the script the writers came up with sucks, but time is no guarantee of quality. They spent a decade to reach Burton's POTA2001. "Rise" was developed since 2006 but all they did was try other writers and go back to the original script. It's all up to the writers and according to them they have this figured out as a trilogy. So they have been thinking about this before anyone said, "OK, Rise 2". Time is no guarantee of quality.




      I doubt they have even a finalized treatment much less anything near a shooting script yet. It'll be months yet before pre-production is announced and months after that that shooting starts, plus this movie will have more SFX than the first, so post-production will take longer. Fox is probably going to budget this movie at somewhere around $160 Million, so they're going to try hard to do it right.

      Get this all done and in theatres by summer 2013?!!!!! Forget it, sir! Just say "NOOOOOO!" to a rush job on RISE 2.

      P.S.
      Read between the lines the things you read in the trades.
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      Group: pota Message: 68811 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2012
      Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
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      They will announce in May, shoot this summer and release in...
      2013.



      Keep dreamin'!
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