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Group: pota Message: 68812 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68813 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Update: POTA **Evolution** Collection...
Group: pota Message: 68814 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68815 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68816 From: James Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68817 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68818 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: Update: POTA **Evolution** Collection...
Group: pota Message: 68819 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68820 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: OT: Disney's "Chimpanzee"
Group: pota Message: 68821 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: OT: Disney's "Chimpanzee"
Group: pota Message: 68822 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: OT: are primates hunted for their edible meat value? Artificial mea
Group: pota Message: 68823 From: Tim Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: OT: Disney's "Chimpanzee"
Group: pota Message: 68824 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: OT: Disney's "Chimpanzee"
Group: pota Message: 68825 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: Anyone we know?
Group: pota Message: 68826 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68827 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: 2 for 1?
Group: pota Message: 68828 From: James Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68829 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68830 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68831 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68832 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68833 From: knightangel314 Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: Re: OT: Disney's "Chimpanzee"
Group: pota Message: 68834 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: Re: Update: POTA **Evolution** Collection...
Group: pota Message: 68835 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68836 From: James Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: FW: planet items
Group: pota Message: 68837 From: James Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68838 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68839 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68840 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68841 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68842 From: Tim Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: Re: "Salvation on the POTA" Special Edition
Group: pota Message: 68843 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
Group: pota Message: 68844 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
Group: pota Message: 68845 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
Group: pota Message: 68846 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
Group: pota Message: 68847 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/26/2012
Subject: Re: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
Group: pota Message: 68848 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/26/2012
Subject: Re: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
Group: pota Message: 68849 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/26/2012
Subject: "Rise 2" to shoot this summer?
Group: pota Message: 68850 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/26/2012
Subject: Re: Fox officially announces "Rise 2" at CinemaCon
Group: pota Message: 68851 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" to shoot this summer?
Group: pota Message: 68852 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: I WANT RISE 2 in 3D
Group: pota Message: 68853 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: The Ape
Group: pota Message: 68854 From: James Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: FW: kim hunter
Group: pota Message: 68855 From: James Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68856 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" to shoot this summer?
Group: pota Message: 68857 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: Re: The Ape
Group: pota Message: 68858 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" to shoot this summer?
Group: pota Message: 68859 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: "Rise 2": 2014
Group: pota Message: 68860 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
Group: pota Message: 68861 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Old fashioned stuff
Group: pota Message: 68862 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
Group: pota Message: 68863 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
Group: pota Message: 68864 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: Old fashioned stuff
Group: pota Message: 68865 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: RISE...
Group: pota Message: 68866 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: Old fashioned stuff
Group: pota Message: 68867 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: RISE...
Group: pota Message: 68868 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: Old fashioned stuff
Group: pota Message: 68869 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
Group: pota Message: 68870 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: Old fashioned stuff
Group: pota Message: 68871 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Dodge Landon (of Rise) was Landon's son?
Group: pota Message: 68872 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: RISE...
Group: pota Message: 68873 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
Group: pota Message: 68874 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: Old fashioned stuff
Group: pota Message: 68875 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: Old fashioned stuff
Group: pota Message: 68876 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: RISE...
Group: pota Message: 68877 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
Group: pota Message: 68878 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
Group: pota Message: 68879 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Chris' (HollowedOut) Birthday, 4/29/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 68880 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/29/2012
Subject: Re: Old fashioned stuff
Group: pota Message: 68881 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 4/29/2012
Subject: Re: Chris' (HollowedOut) Birthday, 4/29/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 68882 From: James Date: 4/29/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68883 From: James Date: 4/29/2012
Subject: FW: Emailing: June 1990 Ad
Group: pota Message: 68884 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/29/2012
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68885 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/29/2012
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68886 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/29/2012
Subject: RISE matters?
Group: pota Message: 68887 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/29/2012
Subject: Re: RISE matters?
Group: pota Message: 68888 From: tuscanyapes Date: 4/29/2012
Subject: 1973 Dr.Zaius Tuscany Statue
Group: pota Message: 68889 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Re: Old fashioned stuff
Group: pota Message: 68890 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
Group: pota Message: 68891 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Sea Apes
Group: pota Message: 68892 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68893 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
Group: pota Message: 68894 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Joel Goldsmith dies at 54
Group: pota Message: 68895 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Re: 9 months since "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 68896 From: john surphlis Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Re: 9 months since "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 68897 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Re: 9 months since "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 68898 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Re: 9 months since "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 68899 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Re: 9 months since "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 68900 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Re: Old fashioned stuff
Group: pota Message: 68901 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/30/2012
Subject: Re: 9 months since "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 68902 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/1/2012
Subject: Re: 9 months since "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 68903 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/1/2012
Subject: Re: Old fashioned stuff
Group: pota Message: 68904 From: James Date: 5/1/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68905 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/1/2012
Subject: Re: 9 months since "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 68906 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/1/2012
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 68907 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/1/2012
Subject: Re: 9 months since "Rise"
Group: pota Message: 68908 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/1/2012
Subject: Re: RISE...
Group: pota Message: 68909 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/1/2012
Subject: Re: Dodge Landon (of Rise) was Landon's son?
Group: pota Message: 68910 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/1/2012
Subject: Re: RISE...
Group: pota Message: 68911 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/1/2012
Subject: Re: Chris' (HollowedOut) Birthday, 4/29/2012, 12:00 am



Group: pota Message: 68812 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/21/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
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(ahem, in my best Frank Sinatra)

Start spreadin' the news,
Caesar's leavin' today
I want to be a part of it,
"Rise 2", "Rise 2"

These Tim Burton blues,
are melting away,
Fox will cut to the chase of it,
"Rise 2", "Rise 2"

I wanna wake up
to a POTA franchise that doesn't sleep
And find we're king of the hill,
Ha! Top of the heap

A $ 1 billion box office?
If "Apes" can make it there
It'll make it anywhere,
It's up to you,
"Rise 2", "Rise Twooooo"


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:01 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt






They will announce in May, shoot this summer and release in...
2013.




Keep dreamin'!
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Group: pota Message: 68813 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Update: POTA **Evolution** Collection...
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... not the Legacy Collection. My bad. Again, if anyone here is in need of a copy of this 6 DVD Box Set, please contact me off list.
 
Thanks,
 
Chris L.
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Group: pota Message: 68814 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
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Whats the rush. Let Wyatt get that other film out of the way and then consentrate on Apes sequel. This Apes film will be the most important of the bunch. We had lift off with Rise but now the Apes have to travel a long way with story, effects and a setup for the last(?) apes film. Let them wait and have a 2014 date. Even Star Wars(Yeeech) had a three year break before Empire. This sequel will have a virus, a possible war of some kind, apes going ape, apes going human and if they want continuity with the originals a trek across the USA. Its not the old days. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> They will announce in May, shoot this summer and release in...
> 2013.
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> Keep dreamin'!
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Group: pota Message: 68815 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
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Important movies like "Transformers", "Harry Potter" and "The Hunger Games" sequels come out every two years or less. Did I say "Harry Potter"? Yes I did! Back in the "Star Wars" days it was every three years but now two years is the new three years.
And how much merchandise can Fox shovel while the apes aren't even wearing clothes? Fox needs to establish the franchise with apes wearing clothes and carrying guns so they can produce action figures. We think Fox has all the time in the world. How much time has Fox got?! Somebody has to begin to care.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:53 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt



Whats the rush. Let Wyatt get that other film out of the way and then consentrate on Apes sequel. This Apes film will be the most important of the bunch. We had lift off with Rise but now the Apes have to travel a long way with story, effects and a setup for the last(?) apes film. Let them wait and have a 2014 date. Even Star Wars(Yeeech) had a three year break before Empire. This sequel will have a virus, a possible war of some kind, apes going ape, apes going human and if they want continuity with the originals a trek across the USA. Its not the old days. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> They will announce in May, shoot this summer and release in...
> 2013.
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> Keep dreamin'!
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Group: pota Message: 68816 From: James Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Planet of the Apes ( 1968) | Shades Of Words
However, Planet of the Apes is as much a movie about philosophy as it is about action packed space drama. The plot in brief, is that a spaceship with 3 men ...
shadesofwords09.wordpress.com/.../planet-of-the-apes-1968/

Planet of The Apes alt. 1.5 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Planet of The Apes alt. 1.5. ... Newest photo →; MIKE WAZOWSKI · Planet of The Apes alt. 1.5 · Planet of The Apes alt.2 · Planet of The Apes alt.1 ...
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Group: pota Message: 68817 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
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Whats the rush. Let Wyatt get that other film out of the way and then consentrate on Apes sequel. This Apes film will be the most important of the bunch. We had lift off with Rise but now the Apes have to travel a long way with story, effects and a setup for the last(?) apes film. Let them wait and have a 2014 date. Even Star Wars(Yeeech) had a three year break before Empire. This sequel will have a virus, a possible war of some kind, apes going ape, apes going human and if they want continuity with the originals a trek across the USA. Its not the old days. John M.



Remember on the ad campaign for CONQUEST, Fox touted it as "The Newest and Biggest Yet!"  Well, it was the newest, but hardly the biggest.  But now, this is going to be something that will be the reality -- this sequel will be the biggest POTA movie of them all.  There's no need to rush it.  I see a very big production with a longer post-production SFX schedule than RISE had.
 
I also think that if this movie were going to be on Fox's summer 2013 schedule, we've had already heard of it.
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Group: pota Message: 68818 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: Update: POTA **Evolution** Collection...
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... not the Legacy Collection. My bad. Again, if anyone here is in need of a copy of this 6 DVD Box Set, please contact me off list.
 
Thanks,
 
Chris L.
You mean the first DVD release, the non-anamorphic ones from 2000.
 
I gave mine away to the local library -- and they were happy to get them!  I was just spreading the virus.


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Group: pota Message: 68819 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
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How much time has Fox got?!

To quote Alan Young at the end of THE TIME MACHINE....
 
"All the time in the world."
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Group: pota Message: 68820 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: OT: Disney's "Chimpanzee"
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The new Disney Nature doc "Chimpanzee" opened this weekend. It's not # 1 but reportedly it's doing the best of the Disney Nature films. For opening week, part of every ticket goes to help Jane Goodall's organization. Of course, Disney has a long history of doing these entertaining nature docs that tell a story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True-Life_Adventures
This one tells of an orphaned chimp that is personally adopted by the group's alpha male. Goodall says this is a very rare thing but it happened for the cameras.
http://www.peoplepets.com/people/pets/article/0,,20588931,00.html"
Sounds like a good movie, so you won't feel like a chump if you go chimp!
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Group: pota Message: 68821 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: OT: Disney's "Chimpanzee"
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Disney's "Chimpanzee" has already taken in a significant quantity of dough:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=chimpanzee.htm

As it's a documentary, perhaps it has already turned a profit. I wonder if it would have done as well without Rise's having awakened folks' conscience.
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Group: pota Message: 68822 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: OT: are primates hunted for their edible meat value? Artificial mea
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Out of curiosity, are primates hunted for their edible meat value too? I haven't seen Sigourney Weaver's hit movie Gorillas in the Mist since 1988... But I wouldn't put it past some poachers to pursue our primate cousins for their edible value. So it might interest you to know you can get FREE e-mail subscriptions to monthly updates from:

http://www.new-harvest.org

Artificially-produced meat is making progress and the folks at that nonprofit group are keeping the rest of us informed about advances, as well as opportunities (for example) to get the media more interested.

Artificial meat has applications for space exploration and colonization, too. That's good to know since we haven't developed the suspended animation technology seen on the Icarus which launched during the 1970's. If our bodies truly have evolved to need meat (as opposed to meat substitutes such as tofu), then long term exploration will seemingly require this technology to continue progressing. Please feel free to subscribe and to share the opportunity with friends if you like. I have no ties to them and they're not-for-profit. If apes are hunted for edible meat value, though, and there are already so few left as it is, we can lessen the demand by satisfying it artificially.
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Group: pota Message: 68823 From: Tim Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: OT: Disney's "Chimpanzee"
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Just saw it....amazing photography! Oscar is a star!!
These guys are the best! Also watching their Frozen Planet....incredible stuff!
Tim
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:39 AM, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

 

The new Disney Nature doc "Chimpanzee" opened this weekend. It's not # 1 but reportedly it's doing the best of the Disney Nature films. For opening week, part of every ticket goes to help Jane Goodall's organization. Of course, Disney has a long history of doing these entertaining nature docs that tell a story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True-Life_Adventures
This one tells of an orphaned chimp that is personally adopted by the group's alpha male. Goodall says this is a very rare thing but it happened for the cameras.
http://www.peoplepets.com/people/pets/article/0,,20588931,00.html"
Sounds like a good movie, so you won't feel like a chump if you go chimp!

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Group: pota Message: 68824 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: OT: Disney's "Chimpanzee"
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Yeah, it was good. Brings back memories of watching "True-Life Adventures" in school.
And I noticed the song at the end was called "Rise".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxVeeqqAyf0


From: Tim
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 1:45 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [pota] OT: Disney's "Chimpanzee"




Just saw it....amazing photography! Oscar is a star!!
These guys are the best! Also watching their Frozen Planet....incredible stuff!
Tim
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:39 AM, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:



The new Disney Nature doc "Chimpanzee" opened this weekend. It's not # 1 but reportedly it's doing the best of the Disney Nature films. For opening week, part of every ticket goes to help Jane Goodall's organization. Of course, Disney has a long history of doing these entertaining nature docs that tell a story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True-Life_Adventures
This one tells of an orphaned chimp that is personally adopted by the group's alpha male. Goodall says this is a very rare thing but it happened for the cameras.
http://www.peoplepets.com/people/pets/article/0,,20588931,00.html"
Sounds like a good movie, so you won't feel like a chump if you go chimp!


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Group: pota Message: 68825 From: jessica rotich Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: Anyone we know?
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Their economy latex masks are Apemania. The rest of the costume they cobbled themselves.

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 1:44 AM, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:

What is it with the Surrey Apes connection? I know of a couple of Apes nuts who live there and I used to live in Godalming, darkest Surrey.It is certainly a fantastic costume---well worthy of Apemania in quality! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gort65" <gort65@...> wrote:


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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
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> > These are damn fine costumes! better shot in the 2nd pic....
> > anybody here claim responsibility??
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> > http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/Film-characters-storm-theatre/story-15864142-detail/story.html"
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> Graham
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Group: pota Message: 68826 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
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Fox has only got until next year if it's going to meet an important anniversary deadline---40 years since the last APES sequel.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> To quote Alan Young at the end of THE TIME MACHINE....
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> "All the time in the world."
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Group: pota Message: 68827 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: 2 for 1?
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Is there any chance that the next two APES novies could be done back to back, a la the Matrix abominations? The talk seems to be of a trilogy and in these cost conscious times,I'd hate for FOX to telescope production.Technology can move on a lot in two years and RISE 3 in 2015 might look 'old'if it used 2012/13 technology.And the scripts would be half-assed too.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 68828 From: James Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

15 Famous Movie Monkeys
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Caesar in Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011). Andy Serkis didn't land the Supporting Actor nomination many forward-thinking fans felt he deserved, but he did bulk up his mo-cap performance resumé with his memorable turn as Caesar, the special lab ...
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Group: pota Message: 68829 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/23/2012
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If they wait until 2014 it will be the 40th anniversary of the TV series.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Fox has only got until next year if it's going to meet an important anniversary deadline---40 years since the last APES sequel.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 68830 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2012
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Fox has only got until next year if it's going to meet an important anniversary deadline---40 years since the last APES sequel.John, Scrolls.



They're not going to meet it.
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Group: pota Message: 68831 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/23/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
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If they wait until 2014 it will be the 40th anniversary of the TV series.


Fox isn't good at hitting anniversaries.
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Group: pota Message: 68832 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/23/2012
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  2013 is the 50th anniversary of POTA, period. All other anniversaries can walk.

From: jamesa1102
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 6:15 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt

 

If they wait until 2014 it will be the 40th anniversary of the TV series.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:

>
> Fox has only got
until next year if it's going to meet an important anniversary deadline---40 years since the last APES sequel.John, Scrolls.
>

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Group: pota Message: 68833 From: knightangel314 Date: 4/23/2012
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I've watched a couple of those on video...but now every time I hear of them, I recall the fact that some things were staged. Like the lemming incident.

Mel

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Yeah, it was good. Brings back memories of watching "True-Life Adventures" in school.
> And I noticed the song at the end was called "Rise".
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxVeeqqAyf0
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Group: pota Message: 68834 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 4/23/2012
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Yup. I was going to trade it in to Amazon for a gift card ($13, surprisingly enough), but apparently there's a third party handling all the processing for that and they do a less than competent job. Seeing as how I read that in the forums ON Amazon.com, I figured I'd best try something else.
 
Chris L.
 
 
 
"Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
 
>>You mean the first DVD release, the non-anamorphic ones from
2000.

I gave mine away to the local library -- and they were happy to get them! I was just spreading the virus. <<
 
 
I wrote:
 
>>... not the Legacy Collection. My bad. Again, if anyone here is in
need
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Group: pota Message: 68835 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/24/2012
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From what I've read, the sequel to X-Men First Class starts production this year for a 2013 release---is there any reason why RISE 2 can't do the same? I'm pretty relaxed just so long as I hear the sequel has started production in some small way, but I do think some of the glow from RISE might dissipate by 2014.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
>
> Fox has only got until next year if it's going to meet an important anniversary deadline---40 years since the last APES sequel.John, Scrolls.
>
>
>
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> They're not going to meet it.
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Group: pota Message: 68836 From: James Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: FW: planet items
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From: William Burge
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:18 PM
Subject: planet items

dear group, I found some neat planet photos-enjoy from william.
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Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

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Once again, the original, although the sorta-prequel, sorta-reboot “Rise of the Planet of the Apes” from last year had its thrills and was a huge box office hit, grossing over $300 million worldwide. It's interesting to note that Andy Serkis was ...
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Group: pota Message: 68838 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/24/2012
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"First Class" starts production next year so Jennifer Lawrence can do "Hunger Games 2" first (even though Fox contractually could pull rank since she signed for "X-Men" first). So it won't be done in time for 2013. That could leave a slot for "Rise 2". Fox is planning "Wolverine" for 2013 and they don't start filming until August.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:13 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt



From what I've read, the sequel to X-Men First Class starts production this year for a 2013 release---is there any reason why RISE 2 can't do the same? I'm pretty relaxed just so long as I hear the sequel has started production in some small way, but I do think some of the glow from RISE might dissipate by 2014.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 68839 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2012
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"First Class" starts production next year so Jennifer Lawrence can do "Hunger Games 2" first (even though Fox contractually could pull rank since she signed for "X-Men" first). So it won't be done in time for 2013. That could leave a slot for "Rise 2". Fox is planning "Wolverine" for 2013 and they don't start filming until August.




Wake up and smell the coffee!  What kind of a crowded summer 2013 season are you people looking for?  I doubt Fox wants such a pile up of product in just one summer!
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Group: pota Message: 68840 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/24/2012
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  You mean like every summer? If Fox waited for a non-crowded summer there would never be a "Rise" sequel.
  I'll just take my coffee black. Thank you.

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:57 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt

 


"First Class" starts production next year so Jennifer Lawrence can do "Hunger Games 2" first (even though Fox contractually could pull rank since she signed for "X-Men" first). So it won't be done in time for 2013. That could leave a slot for "Rise 2". Fox is planning "Wolverine" for 2013 and they don't start filming until August.




Wake up and smell the coffee!  What kind of a crowded summer 2013 season are you people looking for?  I doubt Fox wants such a pile up of product in just one summer!

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Group: pota Message: 68841 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/24/2012
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You mean like every summer?
That's just not true.


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Group: pota Message: 68842 From: Tim Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: Re: "Salvation on the POTA" Special Edition
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Cool...thanks Jeff!

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 21, 2012, at 7:19 PM, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

 

Travel back with me through the mists of time, children, to an age when Bill Blake and Paula Crist WERE the POTA (so said Marvel's POTA magazine). For many decades "Salvation on the POTA" had no sound. Recently, in 2012, the sound was found. 2012, that's only 3 years ago! No, wait, that's THIS year! So, let's go back through the mists of time, children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_aUZasZ124

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Group: pota Message: 68843 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
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From: Jeff K.
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:27 PM
Subject: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints

   CinemaCon, the big soiree for NATO (the National Association of Theater Owners), is happening in Vegas. Arthur Jacobs created special reels of footage for "Planet" and "Beneath" for them back in the day (which had footage not seen in the films:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLEGGCF4UPs ), and last year CinemaCon gave us our first look at Rise's CG Caesar. This year came the announcement that Fox is the first studio to end distribution of 35 mm prints within the next two years in favor of digital. The end of an era and I guess your last chance to see POTA in 35 if you can find it.
  CinemaCon also provided a look at the future by showing 10 minutes of "The Hobbit" in it's 48 frames per second glory instead of the traditional 24. It will be the first film released that way. The reaction was mixed, with some feeling it looks fantastic and others that it looks too good (I guess), too clear. Perhaps like the debate over HD vs. those who like film grain. But it sounds like "Hobbit" will have a similar visual impact at the end of the year to what "Avatar" had with 3D. Maybe a future POTA movie will be shot in 48. Many of the "Hobbit" folks did "Rise of the POTA".
 Out with the old, in with the new.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 68844 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/25/2012
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Wait a minute--you're saying I'll have to wait until 2014, not 2013, before I can see more of Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique??!! I've just lost the will to live.I DID read somewhere that X-Men production had been brought forward to allow a 2013 release, but maybe that was just a fantasy on my part.Anyway, RISE 2 will be the one others have to schedule around--it's going to be MASSIVE!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> "First Class" starts production next year so Jennifer Lawrence can do "Hunger Games 2" first (even though Fox contractually could pull rank since she signed for "X-Men" first). So it won't be done in time for 2013. That could leave a slot for "Rise 2". Fox is planning "Wolverine" for 2013 and they don't start filming until August.
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:13 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
>
>
>
> From what I've read, the sequel to X-Men First Class starts production this year for a 2013 release---is there any reason why RISE 2 can't do the same? I'm pretty relaxed just so long as I hear the sequel has started production in some small way, but I do think some of the glow from RISE might dissipate by 2014.John, Scrolls.
>
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Group: pota Message: 68845 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
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Maybe a future POTA movie will be shot in 48
Yeah, like the next one (to be released in 2014).
 
Anyway, you knew everything was going to go digital someday, didn't you?  Film is so 19th century.
 
 
 



 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>;
Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 5:36 am
Subject: [pota] Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints



   CinemaCon, the big soiree for NATO (the National Association of Theater Owners), is happening in Vegas. Arthur Jacobs created special reels of footage for "Planet" and "Beneath" for them back in the day (which had footage not seen in the films:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLEGGCF4UPs ), and last year CinemaCon gave us our first look at Rise's CG Caesar. This year came the announcement that Fox is the first studio to end distribution of 35 mm prints within the next two years in favor of digital. The end of an era and I guess your last chance to see POTA in 35 if you can find it.
  CinemaCon also provided a look at the future by showing 10 minutes of "The Hobbit" in it's 48 frames per second glory instead of the traditional 24. It will be the first film released that way. The reaction was mixed, with some feeling it looks fantastic and others that it looks too good (I guess), too clear. Perhaps like the debate over HD vs. those who like film grain. But it sounds like "Hobbit" will have a similar visual impact at the end of the year to what "Avatar" had with 3D. Maybe a future POTA movie will be shot in 48. Many of the "Hobbit" folks did "Rise of the POTA".
 Out with the old, in with the new.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 68846 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
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As you know, nothing can beat an early 60s spectacular film in the many fantastic formats on a properly equiped theater. Most of todays folks will never know---or care. 48fps can help in the theater(Judder) though 24fps has no illeffects on bluray since the picture is downsized and hense sharper and more dense anyway the average Joe six-pack doesnt know the difference. Films seem to be made with home theater definatly in mind and thats why we are where we are at. It easaier and inevitable digital age technology and can save costs, even though films seem to cost more than ever.

Funny how high end Audio has a resurgence in analog and 1950 technology with todays benefits (Turntables and Tube amps and sources) and will film ever find a backwood love affair with old tech-never, its a young person medium while Audio is a more mature cliche with more money to spend. I only bring up Audio cause at one time they, films and home audio, went hand in hand. Klipse "Sound of the Theater" home speakers to Cerwin Vega "Senssouround" with advertising touting the theater pedigree of their Home Products. A bygone Era for sure, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Maybe a future POTA movie will be shot in 48
>
> Yeah, like the next one (to be released in 2014).
>
> Anyway, you knew everything was going to go digital someday, didn't you? Film is so 19th century.
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 68847 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/26/2012
Subject: Re: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
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Inevitable but sad.There's something 'alive' about old film.Even watching Surtees' work on Dirty Harry you see a depth and a clarity that, somehowm digital just can't come near.Progress? I don't think so.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Maybe a future POTA movie will be shot in 48
>
> Yeah, like the next one (to be released in 2014).
>
> Anyway, you knew everything was going to go digital someday, didn't you? Film is so 19th century.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>;
> Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 5:36 am
> Subject: [pota] Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
>
>
>
>
> CinemaCon, the big soiree for NATO (the National Association of Theater Owners), is happening in Vegas. Arthur Jacobs created special reels of footage for "Planet" and "Beneath" for them back in the day (which had footage not seen in the films: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLEGGCF4UPs ), and last year CinemaCon gave us our first look at Rise's CG Caesar. This year came the announcement that Fox is the first studio to end distribution of 35 mm prints within the next two years in favor of digital. The end of an era and I guess your last chance to see POTA in 35 if you can find it.
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cinemacon-2012-fox-35mm-john-fithian-chris-dodd-distribution-digital-exhibition-315688
> CinemaCon also provided a look at the future by showing 10 minutes of "The Hobbit" in it's 48 frames per second glory instead of the traditional 24. It will be the first film released that way. The reaction was mixed, with some feeling it looks fantastic and others that it looks too good (I guess), too clear. Perhaps like the debate over HD vs. those who like film grain. But it sounds like "Hobbit" will have a similar visual impact at the end of the year to what "Avatar" had with 3D. Maybe a future POTA movie will be shot in 48. Many of the "Hobbit" folks did "Rise of the POTA".
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2012/04/cinemacon-hobbit-frame-rate-depp-gatsby.html"
> Out with the old, in with the new.
>
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Group: pota Message: 68848 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/26/2012
Subject: Re: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
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Their is something "Alive" about Dirty Harry and Conquest and any film that Bruce Surtees photographed. I was drawn to certain films as a young child and teenager and inevietably they were all filmed by Bruce or scored by Jerry Goldsmith.

The Apes films are great because even with horrible budgets the best of the best in hollywood worked on them. Jacobs should be credited with that above all things "Apes". Ill repeat what I had said a few times here before,"Their was nothing like seeing Conquest on opining day at the Embassy theater 46th st. in NYNY that sunny day in 1972". The sound and picture were phenominal and thats why I continue the good fight for better elements and better mixing of them. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Inevitable but sad.There's something 'alive' about old film.Even watching Surtees' work on Dirty Harry you see a depth and a clarity that, somehowm digital just can't come near.Progress? I don't think so.John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Maybe a future POTA movie will be shot in 48
> >
> > Yeah, like the next one (to be released in 2014).
> >
> > Anyway, you knew everything was going to go digital someday, didn't you? Film is so 19th century.
> >
> >
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Group: pota Message: 68849 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/26/2012
Subject: "Rise 2" to shoot this summer?
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According to comingsoon.net, at today's CinemaCon presentation "Rise 2" was announced with a group of movies Fox hopes to shoot this summer ("The Wolverine", Spielberg's "Robopocalypse") suggesting a 2013 release date ("X-Men: First Class 2" will reportedly shoot in January and that didn't rate a mention). If that's the case, expect an imminent announcement.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=89651
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Group: pota Message: 68850 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/26/2012
Subject: Re: Fox officially announces "Rise 2" at CinemaCon
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Today was 20th Century Fox's turn at CinemaCon in Las Vegas. They announced that "Rise 2" is a go. They didn't say when but the announcement suggests things are well with the script.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/planet-of-apes-sequel-life-of-pi-cinemacon-317081
They were also very high on Ang Lee's flick "The Life of Pi", suggesting it will be a groundbreaker for them along the lines of "Avatar", "Titanic" and "Rise of the POTA".
http://www.deadline.com/2012/04/fox-world-premieres-stunning-footage-of-ang-lees-3d-epic-the-life-of-pi-cinemacon/
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Group: pota Message: 68851 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" to shoot this summer?
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Methinks Jeff's 2013 release date is looking steadily more likely!! I think 2013 would be an excllent choice because the competition that year isn't quite as fierce as 2014 looks like being.Plus, it's sooner and I'm not getting any younger.John, Scrolls.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> According to comingsoon.net, at today's CinemaCon presentation "Rise 2" was announced with a group of movies Fox hopes to shoot this summer ("The Wolverine", Spielberg's "Robopocalypse") suggesting a 2013 release date ("X-Men: First Class 2" will reportedly shoot in January and that didn't rate a mention). If that's the case, expect an imminent announcement.
>
> http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=89651
>
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Group: pota Message: 68852 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: I WANT RISE 2 in 3D
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I went to see The Avengers last night (it's called Avengers Assemble over here) and saw it in 3D, because 2D was sold out.It's the first movie I've seen where the 3D works, enhances the movie and makes you feel like the action is happening in your lap.I flinched at some sparks from an explosion!
So, I'm now a convert.RISE 2, done this good,could be an astonishing 3D experience.Just imagine seeing Buck leaping at the helicopter in 3D.I've hated 3D up to now but I am totally, totally won over by it now.
No spoilers on Avengers Assemble.Other than to say IT.IS.THE.BEST.ACTION.FILM.I.HAVE.EVER.EVER.SEEN.
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Group: pota Message: 68853 From: jamesa1102 Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: The Ape
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TGIF! This week's new issue of THE APE is now available.

To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

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Group: pota Message: 68854 From: James Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: FW: kim hunter
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From: William Burge
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:51 PM
Subject: kim hunter

dear group, here is two neat kim hunter photos. from william
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Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Warning! With 'Sound of My Voice' opening, a look at 5 classic shocker endings
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Planet of the Apes” (1968): The planet is actually Earth. As Charlton Heston laments, we're maniacs, we blew it all up. Or as “The Simpsons” so brilliantly phrased it in the Troy McClure musical parody, “Oh my god, I was wrong/It was Earth all along.
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Movies Where The World Actually Gets Destroyed In The End
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You might not have seen this one coming, especially when you first saw the first sequel to Planet of the Apes. Instead of just giving us more of what we liked about the first movie, they go completely nuts with telepathic mutants who worship a doomsday ...
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Group: pota Message: 68856 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/27/2012
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According to comingsoon.net, at today's CinemaCon presentation "Rise 2" was announced with a group of movies Fox hopes to shoot this summer ("The Wolverine", Spielberg's "Robopocalypse") suggesting a 2013 release date ("X-Men: First Class 2" will reportedly shoot in January and that didn't rate a mention). If that's the case, expect an imminent announcement.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=89651



The article doesn't really say anything.  Maybe's and perhap's aren't facts.
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Group: pota Message: 68857 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 4/27/2012
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Coffee brewed...check...
New ish of the Ape check...
Work be damned by order of the Lawgiver while I read on the latest simian grooviness...CHECK

You guys ROCK!

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 6:42 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

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Group: pota Message: 68858 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/27/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2" to shoot this summer?
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Methinks Jeff's 2013 release date is looking steadily more likely!! I think 2013 would be an excllent choice because the competition that year isn't quite as fierce as 2014 looks like being.Plus, it's sooner and I'm not getting any younger.John, Scrolls.

"The sequel was mentioned as part of a list of movies Fox plans to start production on by summer's end, which included The Wolverine, Steven Spielberg's Robopocalypse and Shawn Levy's comedy The Internship, starring Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson.

Since the first two of those are already set for summer 2013 release dates, is there a chance that 20th Century Fox might be pushing for a Rise of the Planet of the Apes sequel to be a third? Or maybe they'll save that one for the fall or holiday slate, which is still fairly open.

As far as we know, they still haven't confirmed that director Rupert Wyatt would be returning and we assumed that Andy Serkis may be busy doing second unit on Peter Jackson's two-part The Hobbit, although he has already signed for the sequel, so could they both make time this fall to start shooting this sequel?"
 
 
OK, so I've read the same thing as everyone else, but this is what I conclude....
 
An APES sequel isn't likely to begin filming until at best the fall -- BUT WHO KNOWS?
 
Andy Serkis is very busy.  His availability is an unknown at this time.  It could push shooting to the winter of 2013/14, but again -- WHO KNOWS?
 
A summer 2013 release date for a RISE sequel seems unlikely -- BUT WHO KNOWS?  A fall 2013 release more likely -- BUT WHO KNOWS?
 
So, what do we know?
 
Answer: NOTHING!


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Group: pota Message: 68859 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: "Rise 2": 2014
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From: Jeff K.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:28 AM
Subject: "Rise 2": 2014

  Fox head Tom Rothman tells MTV they are still trying to crack the script for the "Rise of the POTA" sequel and they are looking at a 2014 release. He says Fox has always seen it as a trilogy if it worked out. So fans will have to do their own thing for the 50th anniversary of the book next year. Caesar and Co. will be busy filming a movie.
 
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Group: pota Message: 68860 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
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See, it's like I've been saying all along, it'll be 2014 for the sequel and there's no hurry and no need to rush for the anniversary (!).Bollocks.Another whole year to wait? Amazing Spider-Man 2 is ALREADY slated for 2014, so why would RISE take so long? If RISE 2 goes into Development Hell I'll be mucho pissed offso----maybe they ARE going to film 2 & 3 back to back? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> From: Jeff K.
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:28 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: "Rise 2": 2014
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> Fox head Tom Rothman tells MTV they are still trying to crack the script for the "Rise of the POTA" sequel and they are looking at a 2014 release. He says Fox has always seen it as a trilogy if it worked out. So fans will have to do their own thing for the 50th anniversary of the book next year. Caesar and Co. will be busy filming a movie.
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> http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1684002/planet-of-the-apes-sequel-summer-2014..html"
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Group: pota Message: 68861 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Old fashioned stuff
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For some reason, I can't get the great Irish Eurovision Son Contest winning 'What's Another Year?'by Johnny Logan out of my head.
Anyway, do things like lobby cards and Japanese programme booklets still get made in these ever so advanced but ever so dull modern times?If so, were there any for RISE? Why was stuff better years ago? John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 68862 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
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  Fox head Tom Rothman tells MTV they are still trying to crack the script for the "Rise of the POTA" sequel and they are looking at a 2014 release. He says Fox has always seen it as a trilogy if it worked out. So fans will have to do their own thing for the 50th anniversary of the book next year. Caesar and Co. will be busy filming a movie.
 

I'm not saying a word.
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Group: pota Message: 68863 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
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See, it's like I've been saying all along, it'll be 2014 for the sequel and there's no hurry and no need to rush for the anniversary (!).Bollocks.Another whole year to wait? Amazing Spider-Man 2 is ALREADY slated for 2014, so why would RISE take so long? If RISE 2 goes into Development Hell I'll be mucho pissed offso----maybe they ARE going to film 2 & 3 back to back? John, Scrolls.



RISE 2 isn't going into development hell -- not unless the script writers can't deliver, that is -- but this is good news because they're taking their time to get the script right.
 
I'd be a lot more dismayed if the word was this was being rushed into production for a summer 2013 release, but it's not, so.... it's a good thing.  Everybody just relax and enjoy the anticipation.
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Group: pota Message: 68864 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: Re: Old fashioned stuff
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For some reason, I can't get the great Irish Eurovision Son Contest winning 'What's Another Year?'by Johnny Logan out of my head.
Anyway, do things like lobby cards and Japanese programme booklets still get made in these ever so advanced but ever so dull modern times?If so, were there any for RISE? Why was stuff better years ago? John, Scrolls.



Because theatrical presentation went down the tubes decades ago, and because movies aren't in theatres as long as they used to be.
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Group: pota Message: 68865 From: zasco1957 Date: 4/28/2012
Subject: RISE...
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    I'll have to admit it:  I finally was able to see RISE, and although it had its moments, I was disappointed in it:
     
    There was no mention of Armando, Zira, or Cornelius from the previous films.
     
    Yet, certain elements from the earlier films had been raised, such as this Caesar's mother being named "Bright Eyes"...there was a character named "Dodge Landon"...and he also shouted Taylor's line, "Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape...!  I understand that Dodge Landon was supposed to be the son of the original Landon from the 1968 classic. 
     
    I was hoping that this new movie would've tied in more with the originals...maybe this one should be included in one of those "alternate" timelines or universes that both Dr. Hasslein and Virgil spoke of. 
     
    Zach 
     
     
     
     
    -------Original Message-------
     
    From: Jeff K.
    Date: 4/23/2012 9:22:01 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt
     
     

      2013 is the 50th anniversary of POTA, period. All other anniversaries can walk.

    From: jamesa1102
    Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 6:15 AM
    Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2" still the priority for Fox, Wyatt

     

    If they wait until 2014 it will be the 40th anniversary of the TV series.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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    > Fox has only got until next year if it's going to meet an important anniversary deadline---40 years since the last APES sequel.John, Scrolls.
    >

     
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    Group: pota Message: 68866 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/28/2012
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    Yes, it was better years ago in many ways. Lobby cards died out about twenty eight years ago and only a select few, like Burtons Apes film, have lobbys made mostly for overseas. Their are no more Black and white glossys, the original POTA had I think officially(ones with slugs-titles-at the bottom or numbers at the side from the original contact sheet) had close to 180 glossys ,which I have about 125, Beneath about 90, Escape about 21, Conquest 19,and Battle 22, all of which I have-wow!

    Movie lobbys were filled to the brim with posters, photos, Lobby cards and standees that it was a dream for a collector like myself to hunt them down and aquire what you could. For a young child and then teenager to be assaulted with so many images even before entering the screening room was a treat and only added to the enjoyment. Their are some amazing collections out their as this website shows. Take care, John M.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
    >
    > For some reason, I can't get the great Irish Eurovision Son Contest winning 'What's Another Year?'by Johnny Logan out of my head.
    > Anyway, do things like lobby cards and Japanese programme booklets still get made in these ever so advanced but ever so dull modern times?If so, were there any for RISE? Why was stuff better years ago? John, Scrolls.
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    Group: pota Message: 68867 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
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    So, I guess we can count on you seeing 2014's RISE sequel -- in 2015?
     
    And, yeah, no more characters from the original series or even the Boulle novel in the new APES movies.  Probably why Boulle got no credit.  But, so what?  These are "new" movies.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...>
    To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 11:29 am
    Subject: [pota] RISE...

     
    I'll have to admit it:  I finally was able to see RISE, and although it had its moments, I was disappointed in it:
     
    There was no mention of Armando, Zira, or Cornelius from the previous films.
     
    Yet, certain elements from the earlier films had been raised, such as this Caesar's mother being named "Bright Eyes"...there was a character named "Dodge Landon"...and he also shouted Taylor's line, "Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape...!  I understand that Dodge Landon was supposed to be the son of the original Landon from the 1968 classic. 
     
    I was hoping that this new movie would've tied in more with the originals...maybe this one should be included in one of those "alternate" timelines or universes that both Dr. Hasslein and Virgil spoke of. 
     
    Zach 
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    Group: pota Message: 68868 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
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    This is the way it is in our culture -- nothing lasts very long anymore.  Everything has to make way for the "New."
     
    Nearly everything in American culture is sooner or later -- and it's more often sooner -- "Gone With The Wind."
     
    It stinks.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
    To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 11:29 am
    Subject: [pota] Re: Old fashioned stuff

     
    Yes, it was better years ago in many ways. Lobby cards died out about twenty eight years ago and only a select few, like Burtons Apes film, have lobbys made mostly for overseas. Their are no more Black and white glossys, the original POTA had I think officially(ones with slugs-titles-at the bottom or numbers at the side from the original contact sheet) had close to 180 glossys ,which I have about 125, Beneath about 90, Escape about 21, Conquest 19,and Battle 22, all of which I have-wow!

    Movie lobbys were filled to the brim with posters, photos, Lobby cards and standees that it was a dream for a collector like myself to hunt them down and aquire what you could. For a young child and then teenager to be assaulted with so many images even before entering the screening room was a treat and only added to the enjoyment. Their are some amazing collections out their as this website shows. Take care, John M.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
    >
    > For some reason, I can't get the great Irish Eurovision Son Contest winning 'What's Another Year?'by Johnny Logan out of my head.
    > Anyway, do things like lobby cards and Japanese programme booklets still get made in these ever so advanced but ever so dull modern times?If so, were there any for RISE? Why was stuff better years ago? John, Scrolls.
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 68869 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/28/2012
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      They can spend 10 years on a script and wind up with nothing (POTA2001) or come out fighting and produce something good "write" away ("Godfather 2" came out 2 years after "Godfather"). The writers have been living with this story since 2006; I would've thought they'd have some ideas about how to proceed by now. Whether Fox has a good script and is just playing it safe (like chopping "Rise" to pieces) remains to be seen. But it is what it is. At least we have "Iron Man" and "Thor" and "Wolverine" to look forward to in 2013.  : )

    Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:07 AM
    Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2": 2014

     


    See, it's like I've been saying all along, it'll be 2014 for the sequel and there's no hurry and no need to rush for the anniversary (!).Bollocks.Another whole year to wait? Amazing Spider-Man 2 is ALREADY slated for 2014, so why would RISE take so long? If RISE 2 goes into Development Hell I'll be mucho pissed offso----maybe they ARE going to film 2 & 3 back to back? John, Scrolls.



    RISE 2 isn't going into development hell -- not unless the script writers can't deliver, that is -- but this is good news because they're taking their time to get the script right.
     
    I'd be a lot more dismayed if the word was this was being rushed into production for a summer 2013 release, but it's not, so.... it's a good thing.  Everybody just relax and enjoy the anticipation.

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    Group: pota Message: 68870 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/28/2012
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    Also, back then having movie images was just rare and awesome. Now we have the movie itself on DVD 3 months later and all kinds of images on the internet. I remember enjoying the pictures on the novelizations. They were the only "Ape" pictures I had.


    From: JohnM conquest-idor
    Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:27 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Re: Old fashioned stuff



    Yes, it was better years ago in many ways. Lobby cards died out about twenty eight years ago and only a select few, like Burtons Apes film, have lobbys made mostly for overseas. Their are no more Black and white glossys, the original POTA had I think officially(ones with slugs-titles-at the bottom or numbers at the side from the original contact sheet) had close to 180 glossys ,which I have about 125, Beneath about 90, Escape about 21, Conquest 19,and Battle 22, all of which I have-wow!

    Movie lobbys were filled to the brim with posters, photos, Lobby cards and standees that it was a dream for a collector like myself to hunt them down and aquire what you could. For a young child and then teenager to be assaulted with so many images even before entering the screening room was a treat and only added to the enjoyment. Their are some amazing collections out their as this website shows. Take care, John M.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
    >
    > For some reason, I can't get the great Irish Eurovision Son Contest winning 'What's Another Year?'by Johnny Logan out of my head.
    > Anyway, do things like lobby cards and Japanese programme booklets still get made in these ever so advanced but ever so dull modern times?If so, were there any for RISE? Why was stuff better years ago? John, Scrolls.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 68871 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/28/2012
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    >>>I understand that Dodge Landon was supposed to be the son of the original Landon from the 1968 classic.<<<


    Really? Has anyone else here heard or read that before? I hadn't...



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
    >
    > I'll have to admit it: I finally was able to see RISE, and although it had
    > its moments, I was disappointed in it:
    >
    > There was no mention of Armando, Zira, or Cornelius from the previous films.
    >
    > Yet, certain elements from the earlier films had been raised, such as this
    > Caesar's mother being named "Bright Eyes"...there was a character named
    > Dodge Landon"...and he also shouted Taylor's line, "Get your stinking paws
    > off me, you damned dirty ape...! I understand that Dodge Landon was
    > supposed to be the son of the original Landon from the 1968 classic.
    >
    > I was hoping that this new movie would've tied in more with the originals..
    > maybe this one should be included in one of those "alternate" timelines or
    > universes that both Dr. Hasslein and Virgil spoke of.
    >
    > Zach
    >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 68872 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/28/2012
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    "Rise" has nothing to do with the continuity of "Conquest". It might have something to do with the original.
    Dodge Landon (Tom Felton) is the son of (Hank?) Landon, played by Brian Cox. I guess the original Landon might be in the "Icarus" that took off in "Rise". This is probably the kind of stuff the writers are currently hashing out with Fox. They're still working out the framework for the "trilogy".


    From: zasco1957
    Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:13 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] RISE...



    I'll have to admit it: I finally was able to see RISE, and although it had its moments, I was disappointed in it:

    There was no mention of Armando, Zira, or Cornelius from the previous films.

    Yet, certain elements from the earlier films had been raised, such as this Caesar's mother being named "Bright Eyes"...there was a character named "Dodge Landon"...and he also shouted Taylor's line, "Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape...! I understand that Dodge Landon was supposed to be the son of the original Landon from the 1968 classic.

    I was hoping that this new movie would've tied in more with the originals...maybe this one should be included in one of those "alternate" timelines or universes that both Dr. Hasslein and Virgil spoke of.

    Zach
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    Group: pota Message: 68873 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
    Subject: Re: "Rise 2": 2014
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    They can spend 10 years on a script and wind up with nothing (POTA2001) or come out fighting and produce something good "write" away ("Godfather 2" came out 2 years after "Godfather"). The writers have been living with this story since 2006; I would've thought they'd have some ideas about how to proceed by now. Whether Fox has a good script and is just playing it safe (like chopping "Rise" to pieces) remains to be seen. But it is what it is. At least we have "Iron Man" and "Thor" and "Wolverine" to look forward to in 2013.  : )

    Speak for yourself!  I'm not looking forward to a bunch of sequels to comic book hero movies.  In fact, I really don't care for the summer movies the studios give us every year and haven't for many, many years.  It's really all kind of brain dead, these summer "tent pole" movies.  The studios are really just pandering to juvenile tastes, and as an aging adult, it's for me very depressing.
     
    But anyway.... Now we have plenty of time to put out the positive waves in regard to the script they're working on for RISE 2.  I'm not at all surprised that it's taking time, and I strongly suspect that the Jaffa's simply aren't up to the job.  Expect the next bit of news on this production to be that another writer(s) has been brought in.  But don't worry, be happy -- it's a good thing.
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    Group: pota Message: 68874 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/28/2012
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    Also, back then having movie images was just rare and awesome. Now we have the movie itself on DVD 3 months later and all kinds of images on the internet. I remember enjoying the pictures on the novelizations. They were the only "Ape" pictures I had.




    For years the only "ape pictures" I had were those Topps bubble-gum cards and those in the soundtrack album, but that was OK.
     
    Imagine you're a kid again, back when you were a kid, and you're in your old bedroom and suddenly there appears a 50" plasma, a blu-ray player, and the APES movies on disc.  Wouldn't that have been better than winning the lottery now?  I'd have been in heaven -- and would never leave my room!
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    Group: pota Message: 68875 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/28/2012
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    I felt the same way back in 1970. Beneath had a second cover issued in 1973 and I thought that was great. We appreciated the little things then. Take care, John

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > Also, back then having movie images was just rare and awesome. Now we have the movie itself on DVD 3 months later and all kinds of images on the internet. I remember enjoying the pictures on the novelizations. They were the only "Ape" pictures I had.
    >
    >
    > From: JohnM conquest-idor
    > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:27 AM
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [pota] Re: Old fashioned stuff
    >
    >
    >
    > Yes, it was better years ago in many ways. Lobby cards died out about twenty eight years ago and only a select few, like Burtons Apes film, have lobbys made mostly for overseas. Their are no more Black and white glossys, the original POTA had I think officially(ones with slugs-titles-at the bottom or numbers at the side from the original contact sheet) had close to 180 glossys ,which I have about 125, Beneath about 90, Escape about 21, Conquest 19,and Battle 22, all of which I have-wow!
    >
    > Movie lobbys were filled to the brim with posters, photos, Lobby cards and standees that it was a dream for a collector like myself to hunt them down and aquire what you could. For a young child and then teenager to be assaulted with so many images even before entering the screening room was a treat and only added to the enjoyment. Their are some amazing collections out their as this website shows. Take care, John M.
    >
    > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
    > >
    > > For some reason, I can't get the great Irish Eurovision Son Contest winning 'What's Another Year?'by Johnny Logan out of my head.
    > > Anyway, do things like lobby cards and Japanese programme booklets still get made in these ever so advanced but ever so dull modern times?If so, were there any for RISE? Why was stuff better years ago? John, Scrolls.
    > >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 68876 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 4/28/2012
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    It would be nice and smart to make Apes 2 and 3 at the same time but this is Fox and Fox never thinks out of the box-Hey that rhymes. The "Rings" trilogy(Extended versions) did things right and that should be the model for making the sequels, they already have half of the tech guys and Andy so go for it Rothman!

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > "Rise" has nothing to do with the continuity of "Conquest". It might have something to do with the original.
    > Dodge Landon (Tom Felton) is the son of (Hank?) Landon, played by Brian Cox. I guess the original Landon might be in the "Icarus" that took off in "Rise". This is probably the kind of stuff the writers are currently hashing out with Fox. They're still working out the framework for the "trilogy".
    >
    >
    > From: zasco1957
    > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:13 AM
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [pota] RISE...
    >
    >
    >
    > I'll have to admit it: I finally was able to see RISE, and although it had its moments, I was disappointed in it:
    >
    > There was no mention of Armando, Zira, or Cornelius from the previous films.
    >
    > Yet, certain elements from the earlier films had been raised, such as this Caesar's mother being named "Bright Eyes"...there was a character named "Dodge Landon"...and he also shouted Taylor's line, "Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape...! I understand that Dodge Landon was supposed to be the son of the original Landon from the 1968 classic.
    >
    > I was hoping that this new movie would've tied in more with the originals...maybe this one should be included in one of those "alternate" timelines or universes that both Dr. Hasslein and Virgil spoke of.
    >
    > Zach
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 68877 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/28/2012
    Subject: Re: Fox the 1st studio to say buh-bye to 35 mm prints
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    Yes! I thought it was funny to see LPs back in stores,
    but now with the Home Theaters with tube preamps
    analog is finally getting the respect it deserved all
    along. Don't get me wrong. Non-linier editing is
    great!  But I still keep a couple of multi-track
    tape machines working, so I can get that
    luscious analog saturation in the mix.
     
     
    In a message dated 4/25/2012 8:55:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, johnmermigas@... writes:


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    Group: pota Message: 68878 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/28/2012
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      I was kidding. If I hear one more Marvel Comics movie announced, I'll puke. Except "Ant Man", that sounds like it could be interesting. With all the CG movies that have come out, I don't think they've used it for a shrinking movie, especially one with bugs.
      As the Jaffas said in the Q & A they got fired 3 times on "Rise". Fox spent time going to other writers and wound up returning to their script. I don't think Fox will find more writers as enthusiastic than them because it's their baby. But they seem a little too work man-like ("we need to be here by page 27") that gets in the way of them being great writers.

    Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:59 AM
    Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2": 2014

     


    They can spend 10 years on a script and wind up with nothing (POTA2001) or come out fighting and produce something good "write" away ("Godfather 2" came out 2 years after "Godfather"). The writers have been living with this story since 2006; I would've thought they'd have some ideas about how to proceed by now. Whether Fox has a good script and is just playing it safe (like chopping "Rise" to pieces) remains to be seen. But it is what it is. At least we have "Iron Man" and "Thor" and "Wolverine" to look forward to in 2013.  : )

    Speak for yourself!  I'm not looking forward to a bunch of sequels to comic book hero movies.  In fact, I really don't care for the summer movies the studios give us every year and haven't for many, many years.  It's really all kind of brain dead, these summer "tent pole" movies.  The studios are really just pandering to juvenile tastes, and as an aging adult, it's for me very depressing.
     
    But anyway.... Now we have plenty of time to put out the positive waves in regard to the script they're working on for RISE 2.  I'm not at all surprised that it's taking time, and I strongly suspect that the Jaffa's simply aren't up to the job.  Expect the next bit of news on this production to be that another writer(s) has been brought in.  But don't worry, be happy -- it's a good thing.

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    Group: pota Message: 68879 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/28/2012
    Subject: Chris' (HollowedOut) Birthday, 4/29/2012, 12:00 am
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    Group: pota Message: 68880 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 4/29/2012
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    I like a movie that can reawake the juvenile in me.
    It can be difficult to recapture that sometimes.
    But Rise, parts anyway, made me feel like
    a kid again.  I hope the next is even better.
     
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    Group: pota Message: 68881 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 4/29/2012
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    Flippin' through Previews – May 2012
    Comic Book Resources
    I've been getting the Planet of the Apes stuff from Boom! in trade, and on page 272 they have Betrayal of the Planet of the Apes, which looks excellent thanks to Gabriel Hardman's artwork. Operation: Broken Wings gets a trade on page 274, ...
    See all stories on this topic »

    Exclusive: 'Planet Of The Apes' Sequel Rising In Summer 2014
    VH1
    by Eric Ditzian, with reporting by Josh Horowitz concludes with the highly evolved apes poised to take over the world. Where exactly the story will pick up in Fox's planned sequel is something filmmakers haven't quite cracked, but now we know exactly ...
    See all stories on this topic »

    Warning! Five classic shocker movie endings: 'Planet of the Apes,' 'Fight Club ...
    The Oshkosh Northwestern
    "Planet of the Apes" (1968): The planet is actually Earth. As Charlton Heston laments, we're maniacs, we blew it all up. Or as "The Simpsons" so brilliantly phrased it in the Troy McClure musical parody, "Oh my god, I was wrong/It was Earth all along.
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    From: RedSpy13@...
    Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:41 PM
    Subject: Emailing: June 1990 Ad

     

    Greetings, my friend.

     

    Here is an ad for the video collection from June 1990.  Enjoy!

     

    Jeff (RedSpy)

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    From the middle story below, here's the confirmation of what I've been trying to point out to Jeff Krueger.... THE SCRIPT IS THE THING.  This is why I knew it would be 2014 before we get the sequel.
     
    Part of that storytelling decision will also have to take into account a third film, because as Rothman reaffirmed, Fox is planning "Apes" as a trilogy. And he'll accept nothing less than scripts that are even better than the original's. "The script for that 'Apes' film was fantastic," Rothman explained. "We had the script for 10 years, and I always knew it was one of the best scripts. I just didn't think it was possible to do it. I thought it couldn't be done. ... We've got to have a great script. Because now, having made that good a movie, we better make the next one better."

    Better and BIGGER.... that's what's coming from Fox -- at least that's what they want to do.  Let's hope they succeed.
     
    -- Rory

    -----Original Message-----
    From: James <JamesA1102@...>
    To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sun, Apr 29, 2012 9:28 am
    Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     
    Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
     
    Flippin' through Previews – May 2012
    Comic Book Re sources
    I've been getting the Planet of the Apes stuff from Boom! in trade, and on page 272 they have Betrayal of the Planet of the Apes, which looks excellent thanks to Gabriel Hardman's artwork. Operation: Broken Wings gets a trade on page 274, ...
    See all stories on this topic »
    Exclusive: 'Planet Of The Apes' Sequel Rising In Summer 2014
    VH1
    by Eric Ditzian, with reporting by Josh Horowitz concludes with the highly evolved apes poised to take over the world. Where exactly the story will pick up in Fox's planned sequel is something filmmakers haven't quite cracked, but now we know exactly ...
    See all stories on this topic »
    Warning! Five classic shocker movie endings: 'Planet of the Apes,' 'Fight Club ...
    The Oshkosh Northwestern
    "Planet of the Apes" (1968): The planet is actually Earth. As Charlton Heston laments, we're maniacs, we blew it all up. Or as "The Simpsons" so brilliantly phrased it in the Troy McClure musical parody, "Oh my god, I was wrong/It was Earth all along.
    See all stories on this topic »
     
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    Group: pota Message: 68885 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/29/2012
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      I already linked to that quote. And again I say, time is no guarantee of quality. That almost a year later they still don't know where to go might even be considered troubling.
      But I acknowledge Rothman's comments are encouraging. We'll see.

    Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:13 AM
    Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     

    From the middle story below, here's the confirmation of what I've been trying to point out to Jeff Krueger.... THE SCRIPT IS THE THING.  This is why I knew it would be 2014 before we get the sequel.
     
    Part of that storytelling decision will also have to take into account a third film, because as Rothman reaffirmed, Fox is planning "Apes" as a trilogy. And he'll accept nothing less than scripts that are even better than the original's. "The script for that 'Apes' film was fantastic," Rothman explained. "We had the script for 10 years, and I always knew it was one of the best scripts. I just didn't think it was possible to do it. I thought it couldn't be done. ... We've got to have a great script. Because now, having made that good a movie, we better make the next one better."

    Better and BIGGER.... that's what's coming from Fox -- at least that's what they want to do.  Let's hope they succeed.
     
    -- Rory

    -----Original Message-----
    From: James <JamesA1102@...>
    To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sun, Apr 29, 2012 9:28 am
    Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     
    Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
     
    Flippin' through Previews – May 2012
    Comic Book Re sources
    I've been getting the Planet of the Apes stuff from Boom! in trade, and on page 272 they have Betrayal of the Planet of the Apes, which looks excellent thanks to Gabriel Hardman's artwork. Operation: Broken Wings gets a trade on page 274, ...
    See all stories on this topic »
    Exclusive: 'Planet Of The Apes' Sequel Rising In Summer 2014
    VH1
    by Eric Ditzian, with reporting by Josh Horowitz concludes with the highly evolved apes poised to take over the world. Where exactly the story will pick up in Fox's planned sequel is something filmmakers haven't quite cracked, but now we know exactly ...
    See all stories on this topic »
    Warning! Five classic shocker movie endings: 'Planet of the Apes,' 'Fight Club ...
    The Oshkosh Northwestern
    "Planet of the Apes" (1968): The planet is actually Earth. As Charlton Heston laments, we're maniacs, we blew it all up. Or as "The Simpsons" so brilliantly phrased it in the Troy McClure musical parody, "Oh my god, I was wrong/It was Earth all along.
    See all stories on this topic »
     

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    Group: pota Message: 68886 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/29/2012
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    Good luck getting anything like this through congress... too many bloody baboons!
     
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    Group: pota Message: 68887 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 4/29/2012
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    Thanks for sharing that with us. I recall reading a couple of decades ago that it was video coverage of dolphins trapped in tuna nets that led to sufficient support for a ban on tuna trapping methods that weren't dolphin-friendly. Prior to that, numerous ads and articles had appeared in newspapers and magazines but to little avail.



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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    > Good luck getting anything like this through congress... too many bloody baboons!
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    > http://reelchange.net/2012/04/25/movies-that-matter-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/
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    Group: pota Message: 68888 From: tuscanyapes Date: 4/29/2012
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    Howdy from a newbie,

    So I think I just found a 1973 Tuscany Dr Zaius statue. I can't find a lot of info though. Anyone here familiar enough with these to tell how to verify authenticity?

    The felt on the bottom is missing and is stamped as "C-5" and "C-4A". He has a green jacket which is different than other pics I could find.

    Any info will be greatly appreciated.

    P.S. He'll be for sale if anyone is interested.
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    Group: pota Message: 68889 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/30/2012
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    I can recall back in the 70s going to see JAWS (underage) with my Mother and in our old, long since shut, flea pit on a cinema there was a carpeted (we didn't have carpets at home)corridor leading down into the screen room, with walls adorned with lobby cards for Pink Panther movies,Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger and lots of others.It was like entering a magical world and lobby cards seemed so incredibly exciting!Now they jusy have massive standees with no soul.Somehow, going to the cinema today is a bit like going to the dentist, it's so damned sanitized.John, Scrolls.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
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    > I like a movie that can reawake the juvenile in me.
    > It can be difficult to recapture that sometimes.
    > But Rise, parts anyway, made me feel like
    > a kid again. I hope the next is even better.
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    Group: pota Message: 68890 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/30/2012
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    Burton's Apes had it's trials and tribulations script-wise and the end result was excretiatingly bad.Sometimes too much time and thought kills inspiration.Arguably, THE most inspired Apes sequel idea was Dehn's Escape and THAT didn't take years on ruminating and regurgitating.I'm already getting nervous about RISE 2--the clarity of purpose seems to be clouding.John, Scrolls.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > I was kidding. If I hear one more Marvel Comics movie announced, I'll puke. Except "Ant Man", that sounds like it could be interesting. With all the CG movies that have come out, I don't think they've used it for a shrinking movie, especially one with bugs.
    > As the Jaffas said in the Q & A they got fired 3 times on "Rise". Fox spent time going to other writers and wound up returning to their script. I don't think Fox will find more writers as enthusiastic than them because it's their baby. But they seem a little too work man-like ("we need to be here by page 27") that gets in the way of them being great writers.
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    > From: Haristas@...
    > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:59 AM
    > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise 2": 2014
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    > They can spend 10 years on a script and wind up with nothing (POTA2001) or come out fighting and produce something good "write" away ("Godfather 2" came out 2 years after "Godfather"). The writers have been living with this story since 2006; I would've thought they'd have some ideas about how to proceed by now. Whether Fox has a good script and is just playing it safe (like chopping "Rise" to pieces) remains to be seen. But it is what it is. At least we have "Iron Man" and "Thor" and "Wolverine" to look forward to in 2013. : )
    >
    > Speak for yourself! I'm not looking forward to a bunch of sequels to comic book hero movies. In fact, I really don't care for the summer movies the studios give us every year and haven't for many, many years. It's really all kind of brain dead, these summer "tent pole" movies. The studios are really just pandering to juvenile tastes, and as an aging adult, it's for me very depressing.
    >
    > But anyway.... Now we have plenty of time to put out the positive waves in regard to the script they're working on for RISE 2. I'm not at all surprised that it's taking time, and I strongly suspect that the Jaffa's simply aren't up to the job. Expect the next bit of news on this production to be that another writer(s) has been brought in. But don't worry, be happy -- it's a good thing.
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    Group: pota Message: 68891 From: johnroche49 Date: 4/30/2012
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    BOOM!'s Apes #13 has that weirdly perfect combination of Apes and the Ocean---WHY does that combo always work??!! And EXILE #2 is possibly my favourite issue of the entire BOOM! run---pitch perfect script, sublime,perfect Apes art from Marc Laming and we get to meet Dr Milo earlier in his career.Awesome stuff.John, Scrolls.
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    Group: pota Message: 68892 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/30/2012
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    I already linked to that quote. And again I say, time is no guarantee of quality. That almost a year later they still don't know where to go might even be considered troubling.
      But I acknowledge Rothman's comments are encouraging. We'll see.
    What year?  The movie was released on August 5th.  It took it like two and a half months to make its final gross total.  A couple more months of back slapping, then we get "hints" that Fox wants a sequel.  Probably only started story conferences a couple months ago, if not sooner.  I think the first thing that gets decided in something like this is the suits at the top figuring on what budget range the thing will be.

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    Burton's Apes had it's trials and tribulations script-wise and the end result was excretiatingly bad.Sometimes too much time and thought kills inspiration.Arguably, THE most inspired Apes sequel idea was Dehn's Escape and THAT didn't take years on ruminating and regurgitating.I'm already getting nervous about RISE 2--the clarity of purpose seems to be clouding.John, Scrolls.




    The POTA2001 debacle was doomed from the start because the concept they decided upon very early, a reinvention of the original movie, was so terribly ill-conceived.  That misguided thought stuck all the way through the development hell and the result stalled the franchise for a decade.
     
    They're being careful this time.  They've also got to plot out the third one while they're at it, so it's going to take time, but there's plenty of time, now.
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    Group: pota Message: 68895 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/30/2012
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      The writers said in that Q & A that Fox gave them the sequel go ahead in August when it was obvious "Rise" was a smash. So that's been 8 months, 3/4rths of a year. This week it will be 9 months since "Rise". According to Rothman they still don't know what year to set it in. In the Q & A the writers said they had to figure out whether the apes should talk or not. Maybe the hang up is getting the apes wearing clothes and carrying guns so it looks like POTA. Could be what the writers were developing kept the apes too primitive for Fox's taste. And yet still keep the popular Caesar character.

    From: Jeff K.
    Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:04 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     

      I already linked to that quote. And again I say, time is no guarantee of quality. That almost a year later they still don't know where to go might even be considered troubling.
      But I acknowledge Rothman's comments are encouraging. We'll see.

    Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:13 AM
    Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     

    From the middle story below, here's the confirmation of what I've been trying to point out to Jeff Krueger.... THE SCRIPT IS THE THING.  This is why I knew it would be 2014 before we get the sequel.
     
    Part of that storytelling decision will also have to take into account a third film, because as Rothman reaffirmed, Fox is planning "Apes" as a trilogy. And he'll accept nothing less than scripts that are even better than the original's. "The script for that 'Apes' film was fantastic," Rothman explained. "We had the script for 10 years, and I always knew it was one of the best scripts. I just didn't think it was possible to do it. I thought it couldn't be done. ... We've got to have a great script. Because now, having made that good a movie, we better make the next one better."

    Better and BIGGER.... that's what's coming from Fox -- at least that's what they want to do.  Let's hope they succeed.
     
    -- Rory

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    Group: pota Message: 68896 From: john surphlis Date: 4/30/2012
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    does it take that long for a team of writers to wright a movie, will our casar apes be moving into our cities after that viries wape out most of the human race, but how would the apes keep the hydro on for the cities, the power plants if nulear would rung for a few year's after we humans went from the planet,but do they know how to read. john
     

    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    From: veetus@...
    Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:15:41 -0700
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: 9 months since "Rise"

     
      The writers said in that Q & A that Fox gave them the sequel go ahead in August when it was obvious "Rise" was a smash. So that's been 8 months, 3/4rths of a year. This week it will be 9 months since "Rise". According to Rothman they still don't know what year to set it in. In the Q & A the writers said they had to figure out whether the apes should talk or not. Maybe the hang up is getting the apes wearing clothes and carrying guns so it looks like POTA. Could be what the writers were developing kept the apes too primitive for Fox's taste. And yet still keep the popular Caesar character.

    From: Jeff K.
    Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:04 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     

      I already linked to that quote. And again I say, time is no guarantee of quality. That almost a year later they still don't know where to go might even be considered troubling.
      But I acknowledge Rothman's comments are encouraging. We'll see.

    Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:13 AM
    Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     


    From the middle story below, here's the confirmation of what I've been trying to point out to Jeff Krueger.... THE SCRIPT IS THE THING.  This is why I knew it would be 2014 before we get the sequel.
     
    Part of that storytelling decision will also have to take into account a third film, because as Rothman reaffirmed, Fox is planning "Apes" as a trilogy. And he'll accept nothing less than scripts that are even better than the original's. "The script for that 'Apes' film was fantastic," Rothman explained. "We had the script for 10 years, and I always knew it was one of the best scripts. I just didn't think it was possible to do it. I thought it couldn't be done. ... We've got to have a great script. Because now, having made that good a movie, we better make the next one better."

    Better and BIGGER.... that's what's coming from Fox -- at least that's what they want to do.  Let's hope they succeed.
     
    -- Rory


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    The writers said in that Q & A that Fox gave them the sequel go ahead in August when it was obvious "Rise" was a smash. So that's been 8 months, 3/4rths of a year. This week it will be 9 months since "Rise". According to Rothman they still don't know what year to set it in. In the Q & A the writers said they had to figure out whether the apes should talk or not. Maybe the hang up is getting the apes wearing clothes and carrying guns so it looks like POTA. Could be what the writers were developing kept the apes too primitive for Fox's taste. And yet still keep the popular Caesar character.

    You seem to assume that everyone involved has nothing else to do but write POTA sequels.  These are busy people.  I seem to recall the Jaffas saying they had other projects and were trying to pitch a TV series to one of the networks.
    I'd bet that in the nine months since RISE's releases, they haven't spent much more than two months on the sequel ideas.
     
    I don't believe that when a studio executive makes an unofficial announcement that a certain production development is a top priority it means that everything else is on hold and everyone is just working on that one thing.
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       They are writing their asses off, as they said. The sequel is a "priority" for the studio and if they had a script they probably would've went for 2013. Rupert Wyatt is locked up from doing other movies. They all want to get this done. So something is off in the idea department or there isn't a meeting of the minds between the creators and the studio. There is a lot of pressure on this project and that can sometimes cause people to overthink it.

    Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:07 AM
    Subject: [pota] Re: 9 months since "Rise"

     


    The writers said in that Q & A that Fox gave them the sequel go ahead in August when it was obvious "Rise" was a smash. So that's been 8 months, 3/4rths of a year. This week it will be 9 months since "Rise". According to Rothman they still don't know what year to set it in. In the Q & A the writers said they had to figure out whether the apes should talk or not. Maybe the hang up is getting the apes wearing clothes and carrying guns so it looks like POTA. Could be what the writers were developing kept the apes too primitive for Fox's taste. And yet still keep the popular Caesar character.

    You seem to assume that everyone involved has nothing else to do but write POTA sequels.  These are busy people.  I seem to recall the Jaffas saying they had other projects and were trying to pitch a TV series to one of the networks.
    I'd bet that in the nine months since RISE's releases, they haven't spent much more than two months on the sequel ideas.
     
    I don't believe that when a studio executive makes an unofficial announcement that a certain production development is a top priority it means that everything else is on hold and everyone is just working on that one thing.

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    They are writing their asses off, as they said. The sequel is a "priority" for the studio and if they had a script they probably would've went for 2013. Rupert Wyatt is locked up from doing other movies. They all want to get this done. So something is off in the idea department or there isn't a meeting of the minds between the creators and the studio. There is a lot of pressure on this project and that can sometimes cause people to overthink it.


    You see things too simplistically.  These are all top professionals in the business now.  Wyatt is probably fending off offers left and right, and yet he's still announced for another project.  There's lots of stuff that goes on we never hear about.  Fox has many things on its plate right now, and I doubt the APES sequel is the number one "priority."
     
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    Group: pota Message: 68900 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/30/2012
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    I've seen some German RIse lobby cards on ebay but I'm pretty sure they don't do lobby cards in the US anymore....
    Tim


    From: johnroche49 <johnroche49@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 5:00 AM
    Subject: [pota] Old fashioned stuff

     
    For some reason, I can't get the great Irish Eurovision Son Contest winning 'What's Another Year?'by Johnny Logan out of my head.
    Anyway, do things like lobby cards and Japanese programme booklets still get made in these ever so advanced but ever so dull modern times?If so, were there any for RISE? Why was stuff better years ago? John, Scrolls.



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        Simple Simon sez: Hollywood sees things simplistically. Fox wanted to shoot "X-Men: First Class 2" this year but is waiting until January to give Jennifer Lawrence time to film "Hunger Games 2" (even though contractually Fox has the right to pull rank). And "Rise" made lots more dough than "First Class".
      Wyatt had to turn down "Londongrad", a movie he really wanted to do because he's tied to "Rise 2", to be made as soon as possible. He can announce all the projects he wants. The only thing that's stopping "Rise 2" is the script. Fox is on this thing like flies on stink. 
     

    Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:51 AM
    Subject: [pota] Re: 9 months since "Rise"

     


    They are writing their asses off, as they said. The sequel is a "priority" for the studio and if they had a script they probably would've went for 2013. Rupert Wyatt is locked up from doing other movies. They all want to get this done. So something is off in the idea department or there isn't a meeting of the minds between the creators and the studio. There is a lot of pressure on this project and that can sometimes cause people to overthink it.


    You see things too simplistically.  These are all top professionals in the business now.  Wyatt is probably fending off offers left and right, and yet he's still announced for another project.  There's lots of stuff that goes on we never hear about.  Fox has many things on its plate right now, and I doubt the APES sequel is the number one "priority."
     
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    Group: pota Message: 68902 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/1/2012
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    FOX hasn't had too many bigger films than RISE in recent years and it's a franchise that now has some momentum again after the Burton crash.I can't see that it takes years to write a script---decide on your direction and write the damn thing! Paul Dehn, where are you now,a franchise turns its weary eyes to you!ANY delay leaves doubts--changes in executives, funding structures, the suprise new thing.Let's get RISE 2 done.If there only has to be two years between Amazing Spidey 1 + 2 (which is slated for 2014 already) why on earth (because that's where we were, all along)does it take three years for RISE 2,when the thrust of the story is pre-set by RISE 1? Maddening.John, Scrolls.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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    > Simple Simon sez: Hollywood sees things simplistically. Fox wanted to shoot "X-Men: First Class 2" this year but is waiting until January to give Jennifer Lawrence time to film "Hunger Games 2" (even though contractually Fox has the right to pull rank). And "Rise" made lots more dough than "First Class".
    > Wyatt had to turn down "Londongrad", a movie he really wanted to do because he's tied to "Rise 2", to be made as soon as possible. He can announce all the projects he wants. The only thing that's stopping "Rise 2" is the script. Fox is on this thing like flies on stink.
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    Didn't know there were German RISE lobby cards.Anybody got scans of those? Trust those fun, happy go lucky, laugh a minute Germans to preserve the old ways.John, Scrolls.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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    > I've seen some German RIse lobby cards on ebay but I'm pretty sure they don't do lobby cards in the US anymore....
    > Tim
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    Group: pota Message: 68904 From: James Date: 5/1/2012
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    Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     

    'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' Sequel Set For Release In The Summer Of 2014
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    Released last August, Rise of the Planet of the Apes overcame months of lackluster buzz to become one of the year's unexpected blockbusters. It was the first truly great film in the Apes franchise since 1972′s Conquest of the Planet of the Apes and it ...
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    The Weekly Round-Up #125 With Spaceman, The Activity, American Vampire, New ...
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    Exile on the Planet of the Apes #2 – Gabriel Hardman and Corinna Bechko's prequel to the original movie continues to be a very exciting look at the politics of Ape City, as an exiled ex-general raises a human army for purposes that haven't been made ...
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    Group: pota Message: 68905 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/1/2012
    Subject: Re: 9 months since "Rise"
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    I can't see that it takes years to write a script---decide on your direction and write the damn thing!

    You have to understand how movies are made today.  The studios are merely shadows of what they once were.  There are no moguls anymore that can order things done and done now.  Everyone is a free agent and RISE had several producers, including the writers themselves.  There's only bosses and no one can order anyone to do anything on a certain deadline.  It's filmmaking by committee, and it's one of the big reasons why great films are so rare these days.  Fox may have people contractually committed to this or that, but contracts are made to be broken.  I'm not saying there's anything wrong with how the sequel is developing, I'm just saying that these things move at their own pace, and fans can only look at it from the outside.  People could get fired, other people brought in, the summer 2014 release window moved up.  Who knows?  There's nothing to do but just go with the flow and hope for the best.  If it drives you crazy, maybe you need to find something to do with yourself until the summer of 2014.
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    Group: pota Message: 68906 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/1/2012
    Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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    That's cool that Michael Wilson is being honored after all these years.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: James <JamesA1102@...>
    To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 10:34 am
    Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     
    Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
     
    'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' Sequel Set For Release In The Summer Of 2014
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    Released last August, Rise of the Planet of the Apes overcame months of lackluster buzz to become one of the year's unexpected blockbusters. It was the first truly great film in the Apes franchise since 1972′s Conquest of the Planet of the Apes and it ...
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    McAlester artists featured at new museum
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    Group: pota Message: 68907 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/1/2012
    Subject: Re: 9 months since "Rise"
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    I'm not going to argue. I'm a lover, not a fighter.

    Haristas' Dream:

    "Rise" writers: "Sorry, we can't work on "Rise 2" right now. We're developing a TV show".

    Fox: OK, sure, whatever. Tomorrow's another day. Peace and love!"


    From: Haristas@...
    Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:29 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Re: 9 months since "Rise"






    I can't see that it takes years to write a script---decide on your direction and write the damn thing!

    You have to understand how movies are made today. The studios are merely shadows of what they once were. There are no moguls anymore that can order things done and done now. Everyone is a free agent and RISE had several producers, including the writers themselves. There's only bosses and no one can order anyone to do anything on a certain deadline. It's filmmaking by committee, and it's one of the big reasons why great films are so rare these days. Fox may have people contractually committed to this or that, but contracts are made to be broken. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with how the sequel is developing, I'm just saying that these things move at their own pace, and fans can only look at it from the outside. People could get fired, other people brought in, the summer 2014 release window moved up. Who knows? There's nothing to do but just go with the flow and hope for the best. If it drives you crazy, maybe you need to find something to do with yourself until the summer of 2014.
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    Group: pota Message: 68908 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/1/2012
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    Actually, I'm not sure.  Yes, it may be a "new" movie, still, if you're going to use the Planet Of The Apes name, I feel it should still incorporate some of the earlier characters and all to make it a complete series.  As I've said, RISE did do as such from the first APES film.   
     
    Zach 
     
     
     
     
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    Date: 4/28/2012 11:08:30 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Re: RISE...
     
     

    So, I guess we can count on you seeing 2014's RISE sequel -- in 2015?
     
    And, yeah, no more characters from the original series or even the Boulle novel in the new APES movies.  Probably why Boulle got no credit.  But, so what?  These are "new" movies.


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    Group: pota Message: 68909 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/1/2012
    Subject: Re: Dodge Landon (of Rise) was Landon's son?
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    Yes, I'd read that in Wikipedia.
     
    Zach   
     
     
     
     
    -------Original Message-------
     
    Date: 4/28/2012 11:10:08 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Dodge Landon (of Rise) was Landon's son?
     
     

    >>>I understand that Dodge Landon was supposed to be the son of the original Landon from the 1968 classic.<<<

    Really? Has anyone else here heard or read that before? I hadn't...

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
    >
    > I'll have to admit it: I finally was able to see RISE, and although it had
    > its moments, I was disappointed in it:
    >
    > There was no mention of Armando, Zira, or Cornelius from the previous films.
    >
    > Yet, certain elements from the earlier films had been raised, such as this
    > Caesar's mother being named "Bright Eyes"...there was a character named
    > Dodge Landon"...and he also shouted Taylor's line, "Get your stinking paws
    > off me, you damned dirty ape...! I understand that Dodge Landon was
    > supposed to be the son of the original Landon from the 1968 classic.
    >
    > I was hoping that this new movie would've tied in more with the originals..
    > maybe this one should be included in one of those "alternate" timelines or
    > universes that both Dr. Hasslein and Virgil spoke of.
    >
    > Zach
    >
    >
     
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    Group: pota Message: 68910 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/1/2012
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    I've heard that Landon's first name was "John".
     
    Zach   
     
     
     
     
    -------Original Message-------
     
    From: Jeff K.
    Date: 4/28/2012 12:01:58 PM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] RISE...
     
     

    "Rise" has nothing to do with the continuity of "Conquest". It might have something to do with the original.
    Dodge Landon (Tom Felton) is the son of (Hank?) Landon, played by Brian Cox. I guess the original Landon might be in the "Icarus" that took off in "Rise". This is probably the kind of stuff the writers are currently hashing out with Fox. They're still working out the framework for the "trilogy".

    From: zasco1957
    Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:13 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota] RISE...

    I'll have to admit it: I finally was able to see RISE, and although it had its moments, I was disappointed in it:

    There was no mention of Armando, Zira, or Cornelius from the previous films.

    Yet, certain elements from the earlier films had been raised, such as this Caesar's mother being named "Bright Eyes"...there was a character named "Dodge Landon"...and he also shouted Taylor's line, "Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape...! I understand that Dodge Landon was supposed to be the son of the original Landon from the 1968 classic.

    I was hoping that this new movie would've tied in more with the originals...maybe this one should be included in one of those "alternate" timelines or universes that both Dr. Hasslein and Virgil spoke of.

    Zach

     
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    Group: pota Message: 68911 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/1/2012
    Subject: Re: Chris' (HollowedOut) Birthday, 4/29/2012, 12:00 am
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    Happy Belated Birthdaym Chris...I'm sorry that I haven't had a chance to get back with you until now...I have a family member in the hospital.
     
    Zach   
     
     
     
     
    -------Original Message-------
     
    Date: 4/29/2012 7:22:08 AM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Chris' (HollowedOut) Birthday, 4/29/2012, 12:00 am
     
     

    HAPPY B-DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:50 PM, <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


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