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Group: pota Message: 69012 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: new writer on "Rise 2"
Group: pota Message: 69013 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: new writer on "Rise 2"
Group: pota Message: 69014 From: James Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 69015 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota Message: 69016 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: new writer on "Rise 2"
Group: pota Message: 69017 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota Message: 69018 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota Message: 69019 From: James Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: FW: hestons excerpts from the actors life
Group: pota Message: 69020 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Bobby Porter's Birthday , 5/17/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 69021 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Planet of the Apes published in 1963, 5/17/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 69022 From: ramonaarmstrong19 Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota Message: 69023 From: ramonaarmstrong19 Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: Bill, Can You Free the Hostage??
Group: pota Message: 69024 From: jessica rotich Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota Message: 69025 From: rhys_withoutaspoon Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: Modern Reviews
Group: pota Message: 69026 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: [pota] Bobby Porter's Birthday , 5/17/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 69027 From: dave Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: BOOM! news
Group: pota Message: 69028 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: BOOM! news
Group: pota Message: 69029 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: Modern Reviews
Group: pota Message: 69030 From: Chris Hight Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: BOOM! news
Group: pota Message: 69031 From: James Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: FW: rare planet photo
Group: pota Message: 69032 From: James Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 69033 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: Modern Reviews
Group: pota Message: 69034 From: Dario Sciola Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: BOOM! news
Group: pota Message: 69035 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: Modern Reviews
Group: pota Message: 69036 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: Modern Reviews
Group: pota Message: 69037 From: Chris Hight Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: BOOM! news
Group: pota Message: 69038 From: meiousetsunakun Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota Message: 69039 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/18/2012
Subject: OT: Goldsmith's "Star Trek: TMP" special CD
Group: pota Message: 69040 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/18/2012
Subject: Re: BOOM! news
Group: pota Message: 69041 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/18/2012
Subject: The Ape
Group: pota Message: 69042 From: Chris Hight Date: 5/18/2012
Subject: Re: BOOM! news
Group: pota Message: 69043 From: James Date: 5/18/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 69044 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/18/2012
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota Message: 69045 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota Message: 69046 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
Group: pota Message: 69047 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: OT: Goldsmith's "Star Trek: TMP" special CD
Group: pota Message: 69048 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: FW: more planet photos [5 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 69049 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: Bobby Porter's Birthday , 5/17/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 69050 From: James Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: FW: ape items
Group: pota Message: 69051 From: James Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 69052 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota Message: 69053 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Hollywood Treasures
Group: pota Message: 69054 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: Tom Scott and Tim Roth's Birthday , 5/14/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 69055 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: Bill, Can You Free the Hostage??
Group: pota Message: 69056 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: Modern Reviews
Group: pota Message: 69057 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
Group: pota Message: 69058 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and le..
Group: pota Message: 69059 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and le..
Group: pota Message: 69060 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
Group: pota Message: 69061 From: ramonaarmstrong19 Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota Message: 69062 From: ramonaarmstrong19 Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota Message: 69063 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
Group: pota Message: 69064 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
Group: pota Message: 69065 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
Group: pota Message: 69066 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Escape premiered this day in 1971 , 5/21/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 69067 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
Group: pota Message: 69068 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
Group: pota Message: 69069 From: James Date: 5/21/2012
Subject: FW: heston photos
Group: pota Message: 69070 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/21/2012
Subject: Re: Hollywood Treasures
Group: pota Message: 69071 From: James Date: 5/21/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 69072 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 5/23/2012
Subject: Verne Langdon
Group: pota Message: 69073 From: Dean Date: 5/23/2012
Subject: Re: Verne Langdon
Group: pota Message: 69074 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: John Huston gets a U.S. postage stamp
Group: pota Message: 69075 From: James Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: FW: ape stuff
Group: pota Message: 69076 From: James Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 69077 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Death of a father
Group: pota Message: 69078 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
Group: pota Message: 69079 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Re: FW: ape stuff [3 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 69080 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
Group: pota Message: 69081 From: John B Kirtley Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
Group: pota Message: 69082 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Emailing: Castle of Frankenstein #13
Group: pota Message: 69083 From: PK Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
Group: pota Message: 69084 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
Group: pota Message: 69085 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/25/2012
Subject: Death of a Father..
Group: pota Message: 69086 From: jessica rotich Date: 5/25/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
Group: pota Message: 69087 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/25/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
Group: pota Message: 69088 From: James Date: 5/25/2012
Subject: FW: happy anniversary escape
Group: pota Message: 69089 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/25/2012
Subject: The Ape
Group: pota Message: 69090 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/25/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
Group: pota Message: 69091 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 5/25/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
Group: pota Message: 69092 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2012
Subject: Beneath premiered this day in 1970 , 5/26/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 69093 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2012
Subject: Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday , 5/26/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 69094 From: James Date: 5/26/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 69095 From: James Date: 5/26/2012
Subject: FW: beneath opens
Group: pota Message: 69096 From: James Date: 5/26/2012
Subject: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad
Group: pota Message: 69097 From: James Date: 5/26/2012
Subject: FW: beneath 1970 ad
Group: pota Message: 69098 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: Golden Gate Bridge 75
Group: pota Message: 69099 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: 40 years of "Conquest" screwed
Group: pota Message: 69100 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: Thanks!
Group: pota Message: 69101 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: Re: Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday , 5/26/2012, 12:00 am
Group: pota Message: 69102 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: Re: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad [1 Attachment]
Group: pota Message: 69103 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Group: pota Message: 69104 From: James Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: FW: conquest 72 ads
Group: pota Message: 69105 From: James Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: FW: ape photos
Group: pota Message: 69106 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Group: pota Message: 69107 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Group: pota Message: 69108 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: Re: Thanks!
Group: pota Message: 69109 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/27/2012
Subject: Re: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad
Group: pota Message: 69110 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/28/2012
Subject: Re: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad
Group: pota Message: 69111 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/28/2012
Subject: Re: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad



Group: pota Message: 69012 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: new writer on "Rise 2"
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S'weird... I watched 'Contagion' just last night and many times the thought crossed my mind I was watching 'Rise 1.5'.

Dave B



For the most part, I thought CONTAGION was fairly bland, so I'm not too sure what this guy is going to bring to the project.  He may only be the first of a host of writers that'll get a chance to crack at this thing.  But be warned:  the more writers there are means the producers aren't sure what they're doing.
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Group: pota Message: 69013 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: new writer on "Rise 2"
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My instinctive reaction to this was worry.When the game of musical chairs starts with writers, things can start unravelling.If we hear of any more changes after this, I'll start to panic.Definitely looking like 2014 at the earliest now, huh? John, Scrolls.



Oh, I wouldn't worry.  Fox smells $$$$$ so this is going to get made.  They'll have a script everybody is happy with by the fall, and pre-production will be announced before the end of the year.  Most likely this movie will begin filming this winter and be completed by March.  The SFX people will have four or five more months to work on this than they had on the first one, as I believe this will be a much bigger SFX film.
 
I also think that the need for extra writers is also because they've got to plan the third one while they figure out the second.
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Group: pota Message: 69014 From: James Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

'Contagion' scribe Scott Z. Burns to pen 'Planet of the Apes' sequel
HitFix
By HitFix Staff Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:03 AM The "Contagion" scribe has been hired to write the sequel to last year's hit reboot "Rise of the Planet of the Apes," joining original director Rupert Wyatt and returning star Andy Serkis for the project.
See all stories on this topic »

http://nt1.ggpht.com/news/tbn/4U7bKDa16EEJ
HitFix

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www.eastportlandblog.com/.../if-planet-of-the-apes-had-taken-...

 

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Group: pota Message: 69015 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: New member
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Yes you did. In 2001 when you joined the group.

Hey, better late than never:-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Huh? What? Did I write that?
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, veetus@ wrote:
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> > Hi everyone, I'm Jeff. What's everyone's favorite "Ape" movie?
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Group: pota Message: 69016 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: new writer on "Rise 2"
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I guess this means it's too soon to count James Franco out yet. Though he would probably be an expense they don't want. But maybe a couple of scenes like Heston did in "Beneath". And they can give it to a school or something (Franco goes to enough of them).


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:04 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: new writer on "Rise 2"






S'weird... I watched 'Contagion' just last night and many times the thought crossed my mind I was watching 'Rise 1.5'.

Dave B




For the most part, I thought CONTAGION was fairly bland, so I'm not too sure what this guy is going to bring to the project. He may only be the first of a host of writers that'll get a chance to crack at this thing. But be warned: the more writers there are means the producers aren't sure what they're doing.
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Group: pota Message: 69017 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: New member
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Welcome Ramona!
Tim


From: ramonaarmstrong19 <ramonaarmstrong19@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 8:08 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: New member

 
Thank you. I'm Ramona, and I'm from Michigan. I've been a fan since two years ago, when I saw the original movie and fell in love with it. I bought the novel by Pierre Boulle immediately after, and ever since I've been addicted to anything Apes. (I can't say I'm a fan of the 2001 "reimagining" though...)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> Welcome to the group. Tell us a little more about yourself. Where are
> you from? How long have you been a POTA fan?
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> Hope you enjoy the group and all it has to offer.
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ramonaarmstrong19" <ramonaarmstrong19@>
> wrote:
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> > Hi! I just joined today, and the confirmation email suggested I post a
> message, so... here I am. I'm a huge Planet of the Apes fan (even of the
> TV series, although I haven't seen much of it because I wasn't around
> when it aired and I haven't been able to watch many episodes online)so I
> was super excited when I found this forum. I'm looking forward to being
> a member.
> >
>



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Group: pota Message: 69018 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: New member
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Hi Ramona!  
 
Zach   
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 05/16/12 16:40:16
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: New member
 
 

Welcome Ramona!
Tim


From: ramonaarmstrong19 <ramonaarmstrong19@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 8:08 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: New member

 
Thank you. I'm Ramona, and I'm from Michigan. I've been a fan since two years ago, when I saw the original movie and fell in love with it. I bought the novel by Pierre Boulle immediately after, and ever since I've been addicted to anything Apes. (I can't say I'm a fan of the 2001 "reimagining" though...)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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>
> Welcome to the group. Tell us a little more about yourself. Where are
> you from? How long have you been a POTA fan?
>
> Hope you enjoy the group and all it has to offer.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ramonaarmstrong19" <ramonaarmstrong19@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi! I just joined today, and the confirmation email suggested I post a
> message, so... here I am. I'm a huge Planet of the Apes fan (even of the
> TV series, although I haven't seen much of it because I wasn't around
> when it aired and I haven't been able to watch many episodes online)so I
> was super excited when I found this forum. I'm looking forward to being
> a member.
> >
>



 
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Group: pota Message: 69019 From: James Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: FW: hestons excerpts from the actors life
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From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:00 PM
Subject: hestons excerpts from the actors life

 

dear group,  Here is the website to hestons journals on planet of the apes entry starts in 1965-- here is the website as follows  www.theforbidden-zone.com/books/life..html"   i hope this helps or go to www.forbiddenzone.com   on the left side of the website is a list of words put your curser over the world books that should do it.  from william burge   to george taylor 1968

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Group: pota Message: 69020 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Bobby Porter's Birthday , 5/17/2012, 12:00 am
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Group: pota Message: 69021 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Planet of the Apes published in 1963, 5/17/2012, 12:00 am
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Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
 
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Group: pota Message: 69022 From: ramonaarmstrong19 Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: New member
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I'm a fan of sci-fi in general, always have been. I also appreciated the satire and political commentary. But mostly I think I love it because it's simply a good story.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> Unfortunately, not all of them. I've only recently gotten into the PotA fandom. Beneath is the only sequel I've seen. But I plan on watching the rest as soon as possible.
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> So what elements of the original movie made you fall in love with it. Are there any similar movie that you've seen before that preconditioned you to fall head over heels for PLANET? Do you like Science fiction in general? Do you like actors wearing extensive prosthetic makeups? Was it the concept or the plot or the characters that most engaged you?
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Group: pota Message: 69023 From: ramonaarmstrong19 Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: Bill, Can You Free the Hostage??
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That would be amazing! Someone should make this happen.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> I was thinking about fan based anniversary projects for next year and I wonder if we could do a real job on the unfilmed TV Series script, 'Hostage'? It's a great story and, with a few tweaks (delete the Virdon kissing scene because he's never do that to Sally!!) and altering Ursus to Urko, etc, it would make a fantastic audio, a la the tremendous 'VALUES' disc a few years back.We've now got the TV Series music officially released, so, maybe, Bill Hollweg, if you're interested, it could be fun? John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 69024 From: jessica rotich Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: New member
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Hi Ramona!

Jess.

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:14 PM, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

Hi Ramona!
Zach
-------Original Message-------
Date: 05/16/12 16:40:16
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: New member

Welcome Ramona!
Tim


From: ramonaarmstrong19 <ramonaarmstrong19@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 8:08 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: New member

Thank you. I'm Ramona, and I'm from Michigan. I've been a fan since two years ago, when I saw the original movie and fell in love with it. I bought the novel by Pierre Boulle immediately after, and ever since I've been addicted to anything Apes. (I can't say I'm a fan of the 2001 "reimagining" though...)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome to the group. Tell us a little more about yourself. Where are
> you from? How long have you been a POTA fan?
>
> Hope you enjoy the group and all it has to offer.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ramonaarmstrong19" <ramonaarmstrong19@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi! I just joined today, and the confirmation email suggested I post a
> message, so... here I am. I'm a huge Planet of the Apes fan (even of the
> TV series, although I haven't seen much of it because I wasn't around
> when it aired and I haven't been able to watch many episodes online)so I
> was super excited when I found this forum. I'm looking forward to being
> a member.
> >
>




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Group: pota Message: 69025 From: rhys_withoutaspoon Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: Modern Reviews
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> Does anybody pay attention to those reviews,though?
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> Yeah, I do. Helps save me time and money.
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> You should read reviews from many critics -- after you've seen the movie yourself -- and find those who have opinions that agree most with yours. Then later you can read those same critics and see what they have to say about some movie you think you might want to see. If they're negative on it, most likely you will be too, and you then can safely skip it, but of course catch it later on video or whatever if you like. The point is that going to the movies costs money, so why not be smart about it? Would you buy a car without doing research on it?
>
> -- Rory
>

There's nobody i agree with or disagree with all the time so that's no help.For example,most Star Trek fans agree that The City On The Edge Of Forever" is a great ep and i agree but i disagree with that same crowd who say "The Trouble With Tribbles" is great as well.
Should have seen the abuse i copped at an ST board when i said i didn't ;ile it and i wasn't being nasty about it,either.
Like i said,i prefer to make up my own mind rather than listen to others and it's rare that i have been disappointed
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Group: pota Message: 69026 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/16/2012
Subject: Re: [pota] Bobby Porter's Birthday , 5/17/2012, 12:00 am
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Bobby Porter still looks the same as he did in "Battle". What's his secret?
 

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:25 PM
Subject: [pota] Bobby Porter's Birthday   , 5/17/2012, 12:00 am

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Group: pota Message: 69027 From: dave Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: BOOM! news
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Group: pota Message: 69028 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: BOOM! news
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The fourth, painted cover, for the Annual is just plain gorgeous---it would have graced the Marvel mag.An Apes Annual? There IS a Lawgiver.And he is bountiful and wise.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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> <http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/05/16/jeff-parker-and-gabriel-hardman-bring-you-damn-dirty-apes-in-august/>
>
> Dave B
>
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Group: pota Message: 69029 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: Modern Reviews
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What's 'Star Trek'?
I'm thinking of waiting for the reviews on Prometheus, because old Ridley's take on Robin Hood was so toe curlingly bad I nearly went for hypnotherapy to windwipe the images.I, personally, think reviews are a big factor in generating word of mouth--lots of fiolk need to be told what their opinion is.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rhys_withoutaspoon" <stud1al@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anybody pay attention to those reviews,though?
> >
> >
> > Yeah, I do. Helps save me time and money.
> >
> > You should read reviews from many critics -- after you've seen the movie yourself -- and find those who have opinions that agree most with yours. Then later you can read those same critics and see what they have to say about some movie you think you might want to see. If they're negative on it, most likely you will be too, and you then can safely skip it, but of course catch it later on video or whatever if you like. The point is that going to the movies costs money, so why not be smart about it? Would you buy a car without doing research on it?
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>
> There's nobody i agree with or disagree with all the time so that's no help.For example,most Star Trek fans agree that The City On The Edge Of Forever" is a great ep and i agree but i disagree with that same crowd who say "The Trouble With Tribbles" is great as well.
> Should have seen the abuse i copped at an ST board when i said i didn't ;ile it and i wasn't being nasty about it,either.
> Like i said,i prefer to make up my own mind rather than listen to others and it's rare that i have been disappointed
>
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Group: pota Message: 69030 From: Chris Hight Date: 5/17/2012
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Sounds great! They can skip the story based on Tim Burton's movie.
 
Has anyone heard when Exile on the POTA #3 will be coming out?

--- On Thu, 5/17/12, dave <smugster2000@...> wrote:

From: dave <smugster2000@...>
Subject: [pota] BOOM! news
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 4:40 AM

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Group: pota Message: 69031 From: James Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: FW: rare planet photo
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From: William Burge
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dear group,  heres a great rare photo of planet enjoy from william.

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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Next Planet of the Apes is on track
TG Daily
I have to admit I was extremely skeptical about the most recent Planet of the Apes reboot. I love the 1967 Planet of the Apes and sure there was a need for a remake, or a prequel because the end of the original Apes explained it all.
See all stories on this topic »

http://nt1.ggpht.com/news/tbn/uUxi-SzGc2oJ
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Soundtrack Review: Rise of the Planet of the Apes | the Ink Slinger
Rise of the Planet of the Apes (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) Composer: Patrick Doyle Running Time: 60 min. Released: 2011. I don't know how I missed ...
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Group: pota Message: 69033 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/17/2012
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I'm thinking of waiting for the reviews on Prometheus, because old Ridley's take on Robin Hood was so toe curlingly bad I nearly went for hypnotherapy to windwipe the images.I, personally, think reviews are a big factor in generating word of mouth--lots of fiolk need to be told what their opinion is.John, Scrolls.



I have a feeling PROMETHEUS is going to disappoint, story-wise, but I expect the fan boys at Ain'tItCool will love it.
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Group: pota Message: 69034 From: Dario Sciola Date: 5/17/2012
Subject: Re: BOOM! news
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Boom has been keeping to their monthly schedule quite consistently for their main POTA line, Betrayal and now Exile. As you can see from the schedule below, it should be right on time on the 30th of the month.

http://www.comiclist.com/index.php/lists/boom-studios-extended-forecast-for-05-16-2012

Still no news as to what happened with the Terror reprints.

Dario


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hight" <snickertown@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:47:05 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] BOOM! news







Sounds great! They can skip the story based on Tim Burton's movie.

Has anyone heard when Exile on the POTA #3 will be coming out?

--- On Thu, 5/17/12, dave <smugster2000@...> wrote:



From: dave <smugster2000@...>
Subject: [pota] BOOM! news
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 4:40 AM





< http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/05/16/jeff-parker-and-gabriel-hardman-bring-you-damn-dirty-apes-in-august/ >

Dave B
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Group: pota Message: 69035 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/17/2012
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"Prometheus" seems to be Fox's bid for serious sci-fi, so if it's successful that would probably be good for "Rise 2" (making it serious instead of pulling back). The score is online and reportedly quotes Goldsmith's "Alien" score.
The fan name Icarus for Heston's ship in POTA throws people for a loop since it is an odd name for what is hopefully a successful mission (Icarus flew too close to the sun). Prometheus seems an even odder name for a ship (Prometheus was punished by the gods for increasing Man's knowledge).


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:36 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Modern Reviews






I'm thinking of waiting for the reviews on Prometheus, because old Ridley's take on Robin Hood was so toe curlingly bad I nearly went for hypnotherapy to windwipe the images.I, personally, think reviews are a big factor in generating word of mouth--lots of fiolk need to be told what their opinion is.John, Scrolls.




I have a feeling PROMETHEUS is going to disappoint, story-wise, but I expect the fan boys at Ain'tItCool will love it.
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Group: pota Message: 69036 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/17/2012
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I hope PROMETHEUS is good, for Fox and everyone else, and I'd like to have a really good Sci-fi movie to look forward to, but I just don't have much faith in Ridley Scott.  I'm sure it'll be a good looking movie, Scott is an excellent film stylist, but like Tim Burton, I think his sense of story isn't that profound.  It's like the case of TOTAL RECALL... good looking movie, great Jerry Goldsmith score, but a silly story.
 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Modern Reviews

 
"Prometheus" seems to be Fox's bid for serious sci-fi, so if it's successful that would probably be good for "Rise 2" (making it serious instead of pulling back). The score is online and reportedly quotes Goldsmith's "Alien" score.
The fan name Icarus for Heston's ship in POTA throws people for a loop since it is an odd name for what is hopefully a successful mission (Icarus flew too close to the sun). Prometheus seems an even odder name for a ship (Prometheus was punished by the gods for increasing Man's knowledge).

From: Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:36 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Modern Reviews

I'm thinking of waiting for the reviews on Prometheus, because old Ridley's take on Robin Hood was so toe curlingly bad I nearly went for hypnotherapy to windwipe the images.I, personally, think reviews are a big factor in generating word of mouth--lots of fiolk need to be told what their opinion is.John, Scrolls.

I have a feeling PROMETHEUS is going to disappoint, story-wise, but I expect the fan boys at Ain'tItCool will love it.

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Group: pota Message: 69037 From: Chris Hight Date: 5/17/2012
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Great! Thank you.

--- On Thu, 5/17/12, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

From: Dario Sciola <darios@...>
Subject: Re: [pota] BOOM! news
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 11:06 AM

 

Boom has been keeping to their monthly schedule quite consistently for their main POTA line, Betrayal and now Exile. As you can see from the schedule below, it should be right on time on the 30th of the month.

http://www.comiclist.com/index.php/lists/boom-studios-extended-forecast-for-05-16-2012

Still no news as to what happened with the Terror reprints.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hight" <snickertown@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:47:05 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] BOOM! news

Sounds great! They can skip the story based on Tim Burton's movie.

Has anyone heard when Exile on the POTA #3 will be coming out?

--- On Thu, 5/17/12, dave <smugster2000@...> wrote:

From: dave <smugster2000@...>
Subject: [pota] BOOM! news
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 4:40 AM

< http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/05/16/jeff-parker-and-gabriel-hardman-bring-you-damn-dirty-apes-in-august/ >

Dave B

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Group: pota Message: 69038 From: meiousetsunakun Date: 5/17/2012
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I´m new member too...i'm Fernando and live in Brazil...my msn is meiousetsuna@...
add and talk to me ape fans :)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yes you did. In 2001 when you joined the group.
>
> Hey, better late than never:-)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > Huh? What? Did I write that?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, veetus@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everyone, I'm Jeff. What's everyone's favorite "Ape" movie?
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 69039 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/18/2012
Subject: OT: Goldsmith's "Star Trek: TMP" special CD
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There's a special 3 CD release of Jerry Goldsmith's (yes, THAT Jerry Goldsmith) score for the 1st "Star Trek" movie coming out the first week of June. And to sell-abrate there's going to be a screening (from DVD) at Hollywood's Arclight Theater on June 4. Scheduled to attend include director of photography Richard Kline (who also did "Battle for the POTA") and engineer Bruce Botnick (a Doors legend). Not POTA related but he's our Jerry.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55816
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Group: pota Message: 69040 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/18/2012
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I still wonder with the Terror reprints whether it was a lack of suitable quality pages for reprint--the Malibu reprints were pretty ropey and Ploog's 'charcoal' art was badly repro'd even in the original Marvel mags.
BOOM!'s APES have been a total revelation---issue#14 should arrive in my hairy paws soon and I'm busting to learn more about who has Julian and who/what the Golden Khan is.This series is fantastic.John.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> Boom has been keeping to their monthly schedule quite consistently for their main POTA line, Betrayal and now Exile. As you can see from the schedule below, it should be right on time on the 30th of the month.
>
> http://www.comiclist.com/index.php/lists/boom-studios-extended-forecast-for-05-16-2012
>
> Still no news as to what happened with the Terror reprints.
>
> Dario
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 69041 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/18/2012
Subject: The Ape
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It's friday again and that means this week's new issue of THE APE is online.

To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

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Group: pota Message: 69042 From: Chris Hight Date: 5/18/2012
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Once Terror is finally released I hope they continue the storyline. I'm excited to re-read those.
I have been collecting/supporting all of the BOOM! POTA comics but haven't read one yet. They seem great. WIth any luck I'll start reading them in the next couple months.

--- On Fri, 5/18/12, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:

From: johnroche49 <johnroche49@...>
Subject: [pota] Re: BOOM! news
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 18, 2012, 4:56 AM

 
I still wonder with the Terror reprints whether it was a lack of suitable quality pages for reprint--the Malibu reprints were pretty ropey and Ploog's 'charcoal' art was badly repro'd even in the original Marvel mags.
BOOM!'s APES have been a total revelation---issue#14 should arrive in my hairy paws soon and I'm busting to learn more about who has Julian and who/what the Golden Khan is.This series is fantastic.John.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> Boom has been keeping to their monthly schedule quite consistently for their main POTA line, Betrayal and now Exile. As you can see from the schedule below, it should be right on time on the 30th of the month.
>
> http://www.comiclist.com/index.php/lists/boom-studios-extended-forecast-for-05-16-2012
>
> Still no news as to what happened with the Terror reprints.
>
> Dario
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 69043 From: James Date: 5/18/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

CLASSIC COLUMB: BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES (1970)
By Simon
“Mr. Taylor, Mr. Brent, we are a peaceful people. We don't kill our enemies. We get our enemies to kill each other.” Introduction. The end of Planet of the Apes
may give the impression of a further story. But, if you think about it, there is not much ...
Man, I Love Films

Most Mind-Blowing Surprise Endings from Science Fiction and Fantasy Books
io9
Planet of the Apes (by Pierre Boulle): This is the novel that the various Planet of the Apes films have been based on, but you still might not be expecting the twist in the book version. At the beginning of the novel, a couple on a space vacation find ...
See all stories on this topic »

 

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Group: pota Message: 69044 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/18/2012
Subject: Re: New member
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Hi Fernando! Welcome to the group!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "meiousetsunakun" <meiousetsuna@...> wrote:
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> I´m new member too...i'm Fernando and live in Brazil...my msn is meiousetsuna@...
> add and talk to me ape fans :)
>

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Group: pota Message: 69045 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: New member
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Hi Ramona!
 
Da da duh da dunt da da da da dunt da  Hi Ramona!
 
 
In a message dated 5/16/2012 6:31:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Zasco1957@... writes:
Hi Ramona!  
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Group: pota Message: 69046 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
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Jacobs had been peddling the project all over town
and getting nowhere. I believe Warner's had optioned
it originally and then shelved it. A lot of the time a good
property goes nowhere unless you can get a big name
actor to sign on to it, and Heston was his.  He believed
in it and thought it was worth doing.  Here's a quote . . .
 
November 3. THE PLANET OF THE APES project is in limbo.  Jacobs is
now thinking of sweating the budget down to two million,
which seems ridiculous. He also wants to go with a mechanic-drector
from television. This seems a mistake too. On the other hand. it'd be
very good for me if this one cam together. It's certainly a different
kind of script I'm talking about. 
 
 
In a message dated 5/14/2012 8:29:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, georgetaylor68@... writes:
 

Amigos:
I recall seeing an interview of Charlton Heston online during which he said he helped lobby Hollywood to make Planet of the Apes. Might anyone have any insights as to how this came about? Might Arthur P. Jacobs have come to him first? Or vice versa? Maybe Rod Serling or Michael Wilson were involved? Or might Charlton Heston have read Pierre Boulle's Monkey Planet and decided "hey what if..."? That Northwestern University alumnus was a clever fellow...

I recall seeing that during the early 1960's, Charlton Heston was a civil rights activist in Washington D.C. Perhaps someone noticed this and figured POTA was prime terrain for him to promulgate his message. Or maybe the sci-fi genre's usefulness occurred to him spontaneously?

I recall during a film festival discussion at U.Va. in 1991 when a professor said "Charlton Heston liked getting dragged around in the sand, kicked and mistreated". That is consistent with Mr. Heston's experiences in Ben Hur, the 10 Commandments and such as well as Planet of the Apes.

But a significant change of pace and style emerged when Mr. Heston switched genres from classical to sci-fi. I didn't get the chance to ask him why he made that transition when we met at the film festival (after I paid $125 for the ticket) but perhaps someone here can please offer me insights. Otherwise I really will feel like that part of my life is empty, among those life regrets that I otherwise can't extinguish.

Why didn't I get to ask him on the day we met? He looked right at me from the stage when I raised my hand as the post-meet & greet event was about to conclude. He was about to fly to Washington D.C. for a lobbying endeavor (film-related, not NRA rated from what I could ascertain) but seemed about to call on me to ask my question, too. Unfortunately, though, the person right beside me started to yawn (!) and Mr. Heston noticed that, took his cue and waved goodbye to the crowd. He promptly departed and I had mixed emotions about what had just happened. Perhaps not altogether coincidentally, the following month is the last that I ever allowed that yawner next to me to speak to me. But that was small consolation for my inability to ask Mr. Heston the abovementioned question(s). Any thoughts?

I have seen Omega Man a few times, but not Soylent Green (because I want to have the time to enjoy it when I finally do). I don't recall if he did other sci-fi movies too, other than of course Beneath the POTA. Grey Lady Down seemed like The Final Countdown but I'm not aware that the former's sci-fi like the latter.

I do recall hearing that after Mr. Heston helped make sci-fi more mainstream, George Lucas was asked by 20th Century Fox to somehow tie Star Wars into POTA. Mr. Lucas declined though. It's not clear to me how the simians could have efficiently fit into the Star Wars saga, unless maybe as cantina bar occupants, sandpeople, jawa replacements or maybe even Darth Vader's storm troopers. It seems best that Mr. Lucas didn't dilute either franchise with the mixture that had been requested of him.

Thanks from Houston for any insights that you might have about any of this...

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Group: pota Message: 69047 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: OT: Goldsmith's "Star Trek: TMP" special CD
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I really like Jerry's Star Trek score.There, I said it.It's on the recent anniversary discs and,in my opinion, is nearly as iconic as Williams' Star Wars.The differnce with Jerry is that he could score anything brilliantly.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> There's a special 3 CD release of Jerry Goldsmith's (yes, THAT Jerry Goldsmith) score for the 1st "Star Trek" movie coming out the first week of June. And to sell-abrate there's going to be a screening (from DVD) at Hollywood's Arclight Theater on June 4. Scheduled to attend include director of photography Richard Kline (who also did "Battle for the POTA") and engineer Bruce Botnick (a Doors legend). Not POTA related but he's our Jerry.
>
> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55816
>
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Group: pota Message: 69048 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: FW: more planet photos [5 Attachments]
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Thanks again for the great pictures, William.
 
Zach   
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: James
Date: 5/10/2012 7:26:58 AM
Subject: [pota] FW: more planet photos [5 Attachments]
 
 

From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:15 PM
Subject: more planet photos

 

dear group,  i  found some more neat planet photos enjoy from william.

 
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Group: pota Message: 69049 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: Bobby Porter's Birthday , 5/17/2012, 12:00 am
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Happy Belated Birthday, Bobby...and also, Hunter, I haven't had much of a chance to be online until now!
 
Zach   
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Jeff K.
Date: 5/16/2012 11:11:35 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Bobby Porter's Birthday   , 5/17/2012, 12:00 am
 
 

Bobby Porter still looks the same as he did in "Battle". What's his secret?
 

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:25 PM
Subject: [pota] Bobby Porter's Birthday   , 5/17/2012, 12:00 am

Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Bobby Porter's Birthday   
 
Date:   Thursday May 17, 2012
Time:   All Day
Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
Notes:   Cornelius in Battle
 
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Group: pota Message: 69050 From: James Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: FW: ape items
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From: William Burge
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 2:17 PM
Subject: ape items

 

dear group,  here are two neat ape photos enjoy from william.

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Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Primates begin to speak English, claim 'Planet of the Apes' is Documentary ...
The Spoof (satire)
"I haven't been studying them for long, but during their poker game earlier, they carried on about the movie 'The Planet of The Apes', claiming that it was a documentary that had been sent back in time," Dr. Federline recounted.
See all stories on this topic »

Monkeys riding dogs: on life after rodeo
ESPN (blog)
Using this formula, Lepard has created perhaps the world's most spectacular show starring simians and canines, like “Planet of the Apes” if conceptualized by Twain. Billed as Team Ghost Riders, Lepard leads his monkey posse to shows and festivals all ...
See all stories on this topic »

 

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Group: pota Message: 69052 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/19/2012
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Welcome Fernando!
Tim


From: meiousetsunakun <meiousetsuna@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:41 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: New member

 
I´m new member too...i'm Fernando and live in Brazil...my msn is meiousetsuna@...
add and talk to me ape fans :)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Yes you did. In 2001 when you joined the group.
>
> Hey, better late than never:-)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > Huh? What? Did I write that?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, veetus@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everyone, I'm Jeff. What's everyone's favorite "Ape" movie?
> > >
> >
> >
>



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Group: pota Message: 69053 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Hollywood Treasures
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Season 2 starts on May 22 (in the States) on Syfy.
TV Guide  interviews host Joe Maddalena about the new season and asks, "What else goes for big bucks?"
He replies, "We have the original masks from "Planet of the Apes" by John Chambers, the greatest makeup artist who ever lived. The story is unbelievable. He left his entire archive to the little kid next door."

so set your recorders!
Tim
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Group: pota Message: 69054 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: Tom Scott and Tim Roth's Birthday , 5/14/2012, 12:00 am
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Happy Belated Birthday, Tim, and also Tom!
 
Zach   
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: 5/13/2012 10:25:48 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Tom Scott and Tim Roth's Birthday   , 5/14/2012, 12:00 am
 
Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Tom Scott and Tim Roth's Birthday   
 
Date:   Monday May 14, 2012
Time:   All Day
Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
Notes:   Tom Scott wrote the score for Conquest.
 
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Group: pota Message: 69055 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: Bill, Can You Free the Hostage??
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>>>We've now got the TV Series music officially released<<<

Might it be available anywhere for less-than-stellar prices though? Even used, Amazon's selling it for $100:

http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-TV-Lalo-Schifrin/dp/B000NKQDEY/ref=sr_1_11?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1337471739&sr=1-11


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ramonaarmstrong19" <ramonaarmstrong19@...> wrote:
>
> That would be amazing! Someone should make this happen.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > I was thinking about fan based anniversary projects for next year and I wonder if we could do a real job on the unfilmed TV Series script, 'Hostage'? It's a great story and, with a few tweaks (delete the Virdon kissing scene because he's never do that to Sally!!) and altering Ursus to Urko, etc, it would make a fantastic audio, a la the tremendous 'VALUES' disc a few years back.We've now got the TV Series music officially released, so, maybe, Bill Hollweg, if you're interested, it could be fun? John, Scrolls.
> >
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Group: pota Message: 69056 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: Modern Reviews
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Well speaking of Total Recall, maybe the Rise of the POTA trilogy has to be the sci-fi movie that carries the Mars banner for the foreseeable future. Total Recall 2012 won't feature a trip to Mars:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Recall_(2012_film)

But as we recall, Rise showed the Icarus heading there, astonishingly enough.

___

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> I hope PROMETHEUS is good, for Fox and everyone else, and I'd like to have a really good Sci-fi movie to look forward to, but I just don't have much faith in Ridley Scott. I'm sure it'll be a good looking movie, Scott is an excellent film stylist, but like Tim Burton, I think his sense of story isn't that profound. It's like the case of TOTAL RECALL... good looking movie, great Jerry Goldsmith score, but a silly story.
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 69057 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 5/19/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
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My special thanks to the group participant (William Burge, I think it was?) who shared this list of diary excerpts from Charlton Heston:

http://www.theforbidden-zone.com/books/life..html"


I hadn't seen that before but I enjoyed much of it. Admittedly I didn't enjoy reading about how he ragged on Beneath the POTA so much. And as for Linda Hamilton, he didn't have anything but negativity to convey about her. Why might that have been? Perhaps her divorce from Zanuch rubbed him (and Zanuch) the wrong way? Or maybe Mr. Heston had a flame for her that didn't flourish as much as he might have liked?

I also noticed the less-than-flattering remark apparently about John Chambers, the make-up guy who later won an Oscar. Presumably he was with POTA from the very beginning and was the one Mr. Heston was saying could be better.

Meanwhile, I found it surprising that he said LBJ's withdrawal from the presidential race was a mistake. Mr. Heston was a Republican. Or perhaps he merely became one after that?

A great weekend to all, from Houston,
a lifelong Taylor fan



--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Jacobs had been peddling the project all over town
> and getting nowhere. I believe Warner's had optioned
> it originally and then shelved it. A lot of the time a good
> property goes nowhere unless you can get a big name
> actor to sign on to it, and Heston was his. He believed
> in it and thought it was worth doing. Here's a quote . . .
>
> November 3. THE PLANET OF THE APES project is in limbo. Jacobs is
> now thinking of sweating the budget down to two million,
> which seems ridiculous. He also wants to go with a mechanic-drector
> from television. This seems a mistake too. On the other hand. it'd be
> very good for me if this one cam together. It's certainly a different
> kind of script I'm talking about.
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 69058 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and le..
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I'm glad that the word "bloody" is in Heston's lexicon.
It make "You Bloody Baboon!" seem more natural and
less of an expression put upon him by the writers.
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2012 8:57:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, georgetaylor68@... writes:
 

My special thanks to the group participant (William Burge, I think it was?) who shared this list of diary excerpts from Charlton Heston:

http://www.theforbidden-zone.com/books/life..html"

I hadn't seen that before but I enjoyed much of it. Admittedly I didn't enjoy reading about how he ragged on Beneath the POTA so much. And as for Linda Hamilton, he didn't have anything but negativity to convey about her. Why might that have been? Perhaps her divorce from Zanuch rubbed him (and Zanuch) the wrong way? Or maybe Mr. Heston had a flame for her that didn't flourish as much as he might have liked?

I also noticed the less-than-flattering remark apparently about John Chambers, the make-up guy who later won an Oscar. Presumably he was with POTA from the very beginning and was the one Mr. Heston was saying could be better.

Meanwhile, I found it surprising that he said LBJ's withdrawal from the presidential race was a mistake. Mr. Heston was a Republican. Or perhaps he merely became one after that?

A great weekend to all, from Houston,
a lifelong Taylor fan

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Jacobs had been peddling the project all over town
> and getting nowhere. I believe Warner's had optioned
> it originally and then shelved it. A lot of the time a good
> property goes nowhere unless you can get a big name
> actor to sign on to it, and Heston was his. He believed
> in it and thought it was worth doing. Here's a quote . . .
>
> November 3. THE PLANET OF THE APES project is in limbo. Jacobs is
> now thinking of sweating the budget down to two million,
> which seems ridiculous. He also wants to go with a mechanic-drector
> from television. This seems a mistake too. On the other hand. it'd be
> very good for me if this one cam together. It's certainly a different
> kind of script I'm talking about.
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 69059 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and le..
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I doubt Chambers was the one applying astronaut
beards on location. As I recall he was kept busy
back at the lab in Hollywood churning out appliances.
They had nearly every makeup artist in Hollywood working
on Apes that year.  So many in fact a number of productions
were shut down due to a lack of qualified makeup men. And even
if they had Chambers in Arizona, he'd be doing apes and not beards.
Each of the apes had their own makeup artist, at least the prinicples.
and the only apes shooting in Page were Hunter, McDowall & Wagner.
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2012 8:57:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, georgetaylor68@... writes:
I also noticed the less-than-flattering remark apparently about John Chambers, the make-up guy
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Group: pota Message: 69060 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
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Perhaps her divorce from Zanuch rubbed him (and Zanuch) the wrong way?

That didn't happen until the mid-'70s.
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Group: pota Message: 69061 From: ramonaarmstrong19 Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: New member
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Hi, Jess, Zach, and Tim!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ramona!
>
> Jess.
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:14 PM, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi Ramona!
> >
> > Zach
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Group: pota Message: 69062 From: ramonaarmstrong19 Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: New member
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Hello!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
> Hi Ramona!
>
> Da da duh da dunt da da da da dunt da Hi Ramona!
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/16/2012 6:31:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Zasco1957@... writes:
>
> Hi Ramona!
>
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Group: pota Message: 69063 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
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I agree that Zanuch and Nova didn't divorce until later, but some of Charlton Heston's diary entries have subsequently inserted comments by him, too. That prodded me to speculate as to why Mr. Heston had nothing but unflattering observations to share about Nova / Linda Harrison. Either the divorce with Zanuch rubbed him the wrong way, or he was disappointed by her for some reason...or maybe she really was all looks and no acting talent. I'd be interested to know because I'd always assumed that they had gotten along so well.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Perhaps her divorce from Zanuch rubbed him (and Zanuch) the wrong way?
>
> That didn't happen until the mid-'70s.
>
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Group: pota Message: 69064 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
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I agree that Zanuch and Nova didn't divorce until later, but some of Charlton Heston's diary entries have subsequently inserted comments by him, too. That prodded me to speculate as to why Mr. Heston had nothing but unflattering observations to share about Nova / Linda Harrison. Either the divorce with Zanuch rubbed him the wrong way, or he was disappointed by her for some reason...or maybe she really was all looks and no acting talent. I'd be interested to know because I'd always assumed that they had gotten along so well.




I think they did get along well.  I'm sure PLANET was a "happy set," as they say, but I think Heston was just giving an honest statement in his book that Harrison "couldn't act."  She was not a very well-trained actor at this time.  She was a former beauty queen that was where she was because of her looks and got the part of Nova because she was Zanuck's girlfriend.  I'm not putting Linda Harrison down.  She was a competent actress and did a brief TV series after PLANET, which unfortunately isn't yet on home video.  Jeff Krueger knows what I'm talking about.  But, she didn't have much of a career after that, partly because being an actress in movies isn't a normal life, and she had kids and other things become more important than doing movies.  Let's give Chuck a break.  He wasn't being mean.
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Group: pota Message: 69065 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
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Linda was in "Bracken's World", which she was proud of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7rDY5lkji8

The "what coulda been" is that Heston almost starred in "Jaws" and Linda could've played his wife. But Spielberg wanted an everyman, not a movie star. Zanuck pushed for Linda as the wife but the role went to the studio exec's wife instead.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:13 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and learn ...






I agree that Zanuch and Nova didn't divorce until later, but some of Charlton Heston's diary entries have subsequently inserted comments by him, too. That prodded me to speculate as to why Mr. Heston had nothing but unflattering observations to share about Nova / Linda Harrison. Either the divorce with Zanuch rubbed him the wrong way, or he was disappointed by her for some reason...or maybe she really was all looks and no acting talent. I'd be interested to know because I'd always assumed that they had gotten along so well.





I think they did get along well. I'm sure PLANET was a "happy set," as they say, but I think Heston was just giving an honest statement in his book that Harrison "couldn't act." She was not a very well-trained actor at this time. She was a former beauty queen that was where she was because of her looks and got the part of Nova because she was Zanuck's girlfriend. I'm not putting Linda Harrison down. She was a competent actress and did a brief TV series after PLANET, which unfortunately isn't yet on home video. Jeff Krueger knows what I'm talking about. But, she didn't have much of a career after that, partly because being an actress in movies isn't a normal life, and she had kids and other things become more important than doing movies. Let's give Chuck a break. He wasn't being mean.
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Group: pota Message: 69066 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Escape premiered this day in 1971 , 5/21/2012, 12:00 am
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Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Escape premiered this day in 1971
 
Date:   Monday May 21, 2012
Time:   All Day
Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
 
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Group: pota Message: 69067 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
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Judging from the following apparently post-birth picture, Nova's Hollywood and television starring opportunities would seem to have dried up in the absence of acting skills:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EV_bMwKdxbM/T2mc5bXjUcI/AAAAAAAAOk0/0DFiem6O-4Y/s1600/11%2BLinda%2BHarrison%2B02.jpg

Should they have given her a cameo in Rise of the POTA, though? Maybe she could have been a person picking up the newspaper featuring the headline "Lost in Space?" But then again, that might have eroded the nostalgia for the original. Nova's in her mid-60's nowadays, after all...



--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Linda was in "Bracken's World", which she was proud of.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7rDY5lkji8
>
> The "what coulda been" is that Heston almost starred in "Jaws" and Linda could've played his wife. But Spielberg wanted an everyman, not a movie star. Zanuck pushed for Linda as the wife but the role went to the studio exec's wife instead.
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 69068 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/20/2012
Subject: Re: How did Charlton Heston switch from classical to sci-fi and lear
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Judging from the following apparently post-birth picture, Nova's Hollywood and television starring opportunities would seem to have dried up in the absence of acting skills:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EV_bMwKdxbM/T2mc5bXjUcI/AAAAAAAAOk0/0DFiem6O-4Y/s1600/11%2BLinda%2BHarrison%2B02.jpg

Should they have given her a cameo in Rise of the POTA, though? Maybe she could have been a person picking up the newspaper featuring the headline "Lost in Space?" But then again, that might have eroded the nostalgia for the original. Nova's in her mid-60's nowadays, after all...


That photo is probably from around 1965/66.  She'd lost some weight by the time she did PLANET.
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Group: pota Message: 69069 From: James Date: 5/21/2012
Subject: FW: heston photos
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From: William Burge
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:46 PM
Subject: heston photos

 

dear group,  here are some different photos of heston thur his films. from william

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Group: pota Message: 69070 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/21/2012
Subject: Re: Hollywood Treasures
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Thanks for the heads up Tim.

Anyone who what's to see the Lawgiver segments from the last season of Hollywood Treasure, the video is available on the group website: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/HT.htm and the mirror site: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/HT.htm.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Season 2 starts on May 22 (in the States) on Syfy.
>
> TV Guide  interviews host Joe Maddalena about the new season and asks, "What else goes for big bucks?"
> He replies, "We have the original masks from "Planet of the Apes" by John Chambers, the greatest makeup artist who ever lived. The story is unbelievable. He left his entire archive to the little kid next door."
>
> so set your recorders!
> Tim
>

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Group: pota Message: 69071 From: James Date: 5/21/2012
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Weekly Ketchup: Rise of the Planet of the Apes Sequel Gets A Writer ...
Movie news from Rotten Tomatoes including Box Office and DVD Exclusives, Critics Consensus and more!
www.rottentomatoes.com/.../weekly-ketchup-emrise-of-the-pla...

PLANET OF THE APES (1968) ORIGINAL ENDING
By Ian
Just in time for the RISE OF THE
PLANET OF THE APES DVD release, it's the never-before-seen original ending of the 1968 original. You thought the original version was prophetic? Take a look at this!
Killing My Lobster

 

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Group: pota Message: 69072 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 5/23/2012
Subject: Verne Langdon
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Greetings, my friends.  Here is a photo of late make-up artist Verne Langdon working on an Apes actor.  Enjoy!
 
Jeff (RedSpy)
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Group: pota Message: 69073 From: Dean Date: 5/23/2012
Subject: Re: Verne Langdon
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I managed to contact Verne [a number of years ago] whilst undertaking an article for the dreaded Mr Roche [@ Scrolls !] in relation to a tribute to John Chambers [interviewing several makee-up artists].

I found old Verne to be quite ..... well > just almost "nasty" ! He didn't have a good word to sat about anyone !! In fact, he sent me a number of emails [almost threatening ones] on the subject !!!

Needless to say > I never used any of his material for the article !!!


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, RedSpy13@... wrote:
>
> Greetings, my friends. Here is a photo of late make-up artist Verne
> Langdon working on an Apes actor. Enjoy!
>
> Jeff (RedSpy)
>
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Group: pota Message: 69074 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: John Huston gets a U.S. postage stamp
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There's been POTA stamps in some countries but the U.S. postal service is a tough nut to crack. John Huston is getting a U.S. postage stamp for his directorial career, not for playing the Lawgiver, but it's a start. How long before there's a U.S. POTAage stamp?

http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/u-s-postal-service-puts-stamp-of-approval-on-wilder-huston-ford-capra/
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Group: pota Message: 69075 From: James Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: FW: ape stuff
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From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:51 AM
Subject: ape stuff

 

dear group,  here are some neat ape items enjoy from william

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Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

The Weekly Round-Up #128 With The Manhattan Projects, The Activity, BPRD ...
Inside Pulse
The art in this issue is provided by guest artist Marc Laming, who as been impressing me on Exile on the Planet of the Apes. I'm not sure where Mitch Gerads went – this is a creator owned book, so it's odd to see a guest artist, but it's all good, ...
See all stories on this topic »

Film Review: Planet of the Apes (1968) | Into The Dark - Horror Film ...
It may be tempting to dismiss Planet of the Apes as high camp, but there's some provocative science-fiction under those monkey masks. Charlton Heston plays ...
www.into-the-dark.com/film-review-planet-of-the-apes-1968/

Planet of the Apes and Image Rights | Project GAP
Planet of the Apes and Image Rights - GAP aims to defend the basic rights to life, freedom and non-torture of the non-human great primates - chimpanzees, ...
www.greatapeproject.org/.../4266,planet-of-the-apes-and-imag...

 

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Group: pota Message: 69077 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Death of a father
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My dad died last Sunday and his memorial is Saturday. I bring it up because of the POTA connections. My own POTA adventures meant he knew Natalie Trundy and Bill "stage Cornelius" Blake personally. One of my favorite POTA memories is when I took Natalie to a sci-fi convention because Charlton Heston was going to be there. It was just after POTA2001 was greenlit. Linda Harrison was there and one of her sons and we hung with Heston and then Natalie and Linda took me to lunch. Anyway, the next day was my dad's birthday (so I guess April 2000) and it didn't occur to me to say something, I guess Natalie did, and Linda signed one of her hotter pictures to my dad, saying, "You were fantastic last night!". Just a terrific idea for an autographed photo and he loved it. That was such a sweet gesture from Natalie and Linda and I will always be grateful. My dad never understood my love of POTA either as a kid or an adult and that's something I was sad about but such are relationships.
Another thing that occurred to me lately is how the death of a father is significant in both the POTA movies that came out in the last almost 40 years. There's the scene between Thade and his father (played by Heston himself). Yeah, people groan about that scene (damn, they got Heston in ape makeup and that's the best they could come up with?) but I'm always moved by Thade's reaction to his dad's death. This scene is significant because Tim Burton's dad died during preproduction on POTA2001. Reportedly he was never close to his folks but there was something there because his next film was the ode to fatherhood "Big Fish". As it turns out, I love that movie and the song Eddie Vedder wrote for it, "Man of the Hour" and in fact I'm quoting it in the memorial card people will receive at my dad's service:

And the road the old man paved
The broken seams along the way
The rusted signs left just for me
He was guiding me
Love, his own way

Now the man of the hour
Is taking his final bow
As the curtain comes down
I feel this is just goodbye for now

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/05/10/dark-shadows-tim-burton-and-richard-d-zanuck-form-a-family/

And of course the death of a father plays a big part in "Rise of the POTA" (it could be considered the reason the POTA is born). My dad was struggling with his health when that came out and I felt it was a pretty interesting theme for the original POTA generation. They were kids when the original POTA movies came out and now many of them are dealing with the same thing Will is in the movie, aging parents.
So, here's to you dad, and to all the POTA fathers who are struggling.
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Group: pota Message: 69078 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
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So sorry to hear of your loss Jeff. Please let me know if there is anything I can do.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> My dad died last Sunday and his memorial is Saturday. I bring it up because of the POTA connections. My own POTA adventures meant he knew Natalie Trundy and Bill "stage Cornelius" Blake personally. One of my favorite POTA memories is when I took Natalie to a sci-fi convention because Charlton Heston was going to be there. It was just after POTA2001 was greenlit. Linda Harrison was there and one of her sons and we hung with Heston and then Natalie and Linda took me to lunch. Anyway, the next day was my dad's birthday (so I guess April 2000) and it didn't occur to me to say something, I guess Natalie did, and Linda signed one of her hotter pictures to my dad, saying, "You were fantastic last night!". Just a terrific idea for an autographed photo and he loved it. That was such a sweet gesture from Natalie and Linda and I will always be grateful. My dad never understood my love of POTA either as a kid or an adult and that's something I was sad about but such are relationships.
> Another thing that occurred to me lately is how the death of a father is significant in both the POTA movies that came out in the last almost 40 years. There's the scene between Thade and his father (played by Heston himself). Yeah, people groan about that scene (damn, they got Heston in ape makeup and that's the best they could come up with?) but I'm always moved by Thade's reaction to his dad's death. This scene is significant because Tim Burton's dad died during preproduction on POTA2001. Reportedly he was never close to his folks but there was something there because his next film was the ode to fatherhood "Big Fish". As it turns out, I love that movie and the song Eddie Vedder wrote for it, "Man of the Hour" and in fact I'm quoting it in the memorial card people will receive at my dad's service:
>
> And the road the old man paved
> The broken seams along the way
> The rusted signs left just for me
> He was guiding me
> Love, his own way
>
> Now the man of the hour
> Is taking his final bow
> As the curtain comes down
> I feel this is just goodbye for now
>
> http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/05/10/dark-shadows-tim-burton-and-richard-d-zanuck-form-a-family/
>
> And of course the death of a father plays a big part in "Rise of the POTA" (it could be considered the reason the POTA is born). My dad was struggling with his health when that came out and I felt it was a pretty interesting theme for the original POTA generation. They were kids when the original POTA movies came out and now many of them are dealing with the same thing Will is in the movie, aging parents.
> So, here's to you dad, and to all the POTA fathers who are struggling.
>

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Group: pota Message: 69079 From: Gelson Nicolini Monteiro Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Re: FW: ape stuff [3 Attachments]
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The Pic of Kim Hunter is new for me, I never see before. Amazing!!!
Thanks.

2012/5/24, James <JamesA1102@...>:
> From: William Burge
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:51 AM
> Subject: ape stuff
>
>
>
> dear group, here are some neat ape items enjoy from william
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 69080 From: Luiz Saulo Adami Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
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My dear Ape friend Jeff,

I'm sorry! I have only good memories about your father! God bless you and all your family!

Saulo Adami
From Brazil




De: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
Para: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 24 de Maio de 2012 14:42
Assunto: [pota] Death of a father

 
My dad died last Sunday and his memorial is Saturday. I bring it up because of the POTA connections. My own POTA adventures meant he knew Natalie Trundy and Bill "stage Cornelius" Blake personally. One of my favorite POTA memories is when I took Natalie to a sci-fi convention because Charlton Heston was going to be there. It was just after POTA2001 was greenlit. Linda Harrison was there and one of her sons and we hung with Heston and then Natalie and Linda took me to lunch. Anyway, the next day was my dad's birthday (so I guess April 2000) and it didn't occur to me to say something, I guess Natalie did, and Linda signed one of her hotter pictures to my dad, saying, "You were fantastic last night!". Just a terrific idea for an autographed photo and he loved it. That was such a sweet gesture from Natalie and Linda and I will always be grateful. My dad never understood my love of POTA either as a kid or an adult and that's something I was sad about but such are relationships.
Another thing that occurred to me lately is how the death of a father is significant in both the POTA movies that came out in the last almost 40 years. There's the scene between Thade and his father (played by Heston himself). Yeah, people groan about that scene (damn, they got Heston in ape makeup and that's the best they could come up with?) but I'm always moved by Thade's reaction to his dad's death. This scene is significant because Tim Burton's dad died during preproduction on POTA2001. Reportedly he was never close to his folks but there was something there because his next film was the ode to fatherhood "Big Fish". As it turns out, I love that movie and the song Eddie Vedder wrote for it, "Man of the Hour" and in fact I'm quoting it in the memorial card people will receive at my dad's service:

And the road the old man paved
The broken seams along the way
The rusted signs left just for me
He was guiding me
Love, his own way

Now the man of the hour
Is taking his final bow
As the curtain comes down
I feel this is just goodbye for now

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/05/10/dark-shadows-tim-burton-and-richard-d-zanuck-form-a-family/

And of course the death of a father plays a big part in "Rise of the POTA" (it could be considered the reason the POTA is born). My dad was struggling with his health when that came out and I felt it was a pretty interesting theme for the original POTA generation. They were kids when the original POTA movies came out and now many of them are dealing with the same thing Will is in the movie, aging parents.
So, here's to you dad, and to all the POTA fathers who are struggling.



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Group: pota Message: 69081 From: John B Kirtley Date: 5/24/2012
Subject: Re: Death of a father
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Dear Jeff
 
Sorry to hear of your loss.
 
John
 
From: Jeff K.
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:42 PM
Subject: [pota] Death of a father
 
 

My dad died last Sunday and his memorial is Saturday. I bring it up because of the POTA connections. My own POTA adventures meant he knew Natalie Trundy and Bill "stage Cornelius" Blake personally. One of my favorite POTA memories is when I took Natalie to a sci-fi convention because Charlton Heston was going to be there. It was just after POTA2001 was greenlit. Linda Harrison was there and one of her sons and we hung with Heston and then Natalie and Linda took me to lunch. Anyway, the next day was my dad's birthday (so I guess April 2000) and it didn't occur to me to say something, I guess Natalie did, and Linda signed one of her hotter pictures to my dad, saying, "You were fantastic last night!". Just a terrific idea for an autographed photo and he loved it. That was such a sweet gesture from Natalie and Linda and I will always be grateful. My dad never understood my love of POTA either as a kid or an adult and that's something I was sad about but such are relationships.
Another thing that occurred to me lately is how the death of a father is significant in both the POTA movies that came out in the last almost 40 years. There's the scene between Thade and his father (played by Heston himself). Yeah, people groan about that scene (damn, they got Heston in ape makeup and that's the best they could come up with?) but I'm always moved by Thade's reaction to his dad's death. This scene is significant because Tim Burton's dad died during preproduction on POTA2001. Reportedly he was never close to his folks but there was something there because his next film was the ode to fatherhood "Big Fish". As it turns out, I love that movie and the song Eddie Vedder wrote for it, "Man of the Hour" and in fact I'm quoting it in the memorial card people will receive at my dad's service:

And the road the old man paved
The broken seams along the way
The rusted signs left just for me
He was guiding me
Love, his own way

Now the man of the hour
Is taking his final bow
As the curtain comes down
I feel this is just goodbye for now

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/05/10/dark-shadows-tim-burton-and-richard-d-zanuck-form-a-family/

And of course the death of a father plays a big part in "Rise of the POTA" (it could be considered the reason the POTA is born). My dad was struggling with his health when that came out and I felt it was a pretty interesting theme for the original POTA generation. They were kids when the original POTA movies came out and now many of them are dealing with the same thing Will is in the movie, aging parents.
So, here's to you dad, and to all the POTA fathers who are struggling.

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    Greetings, my friends.  Here is an article from "Castle of Frankenstein" issue #13 from 1969.  If someone else has already posted this for the group, please forgive me.  I'm just forwarding stuff as I come across it.  Enjoy!
     
    Jeff (RedSpy)
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    Group: pota Message: 69083 From: PK Date: 5/24/2012
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    Sorry to hear about your dad, Jeff. My mother passed away two years ago and it's a difficult thing to go through. I would guess a lot of us on this group are at the age where we have started losing parents, one of the more unpleasant things of life. Seems to help to have people around who can send some good thougths your way. Love the Linda Harrison story, didn't know she had that sense of humor. Take care.

    Mike M.

    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > My dad died last Sunday and his memorial is Saturday. I bring it up because of the POTA connections. My own POTA adventures meant he knew Natalie Trundy and Bill "stage Cornelius" Blake personally. One of my favorite POTA memories is when I took Natalie to a sci-fi convention because Charlton Heston was going to be there. It was just after POTA2001 was greenlit. Linda Harrison was there and one of her sons and we hung with Heston and then Natalie and Linda took me to lunch. Anyway, the next day was my dad's birthday (so I guess April 2000) and it didn't occur to me to say something, I guess Natalie did, and Linda signed one of her hotter pictures to my dad, saying, "You were fantastic last night!". Just a terrific idea for an autographed photo and he loved it. That was such a sweet gesture from Natalie and Linda and I will always be grateful. My dad never understood my love of POTA either as a kid or an adult and that's something I was sad about but such are relationships.
    > Another thing that occurred to me lately is how the death of a father is significant in both the POTA movies that came out in the last almost 40 years. There's the scene between Thade and his father (played by Heston himself). Yeah, people groan about that scene (damn, they got Heston in ape makeup and that's the best they could come up with?) but I'm always moved by Thade's reaction to his dad's death. This scene is significant because Tim Burton's dad died during preproduction on POTA2001. Reportedly he was never close to his folks but there was something there because his next film was the ode to fatherhood "Big Fish". As it turns out, I love that movie and the song Eddie Vedder wrote for it, "Man of the Hour" and in fact I'm quoting it in the memorial card people will receive at my dad's service:
    >
    > And the road the old man paved
    > The broken seams along the way
    > The rusted signs left just for me
    > He was guiding me
    > Love, his own way
    >
    > Now the man of the hour
    > Is taking his final bow
    > As the curtain comes down
    > I feel this is just goodbye for now
    >
    > http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/05/10/dark-shadows-tim-burton-and-richard-d-zanuck-form-a-family/
    >
    > And of course the death of a father plays a big part in "Rise of the POTA" (it could be considered the reason the POTA is born). My dad was struggling with his health when that came out and I felt it was a pretty interesting theme for the original POTA generation. They were kids when the original POTA movies came out and now many of them are dealing with the same thing Will is in the movie, aging parents.
    > So, here's to you dad, and to all the POTA fathers who are struggling.
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 69084 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 5/24/2012
    Subject: Re: Death of a father
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    I as well my friend send out hearfelt prayers your way.
    I am so sorry...........

    On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:01 PM, PK <obriensdallas@...> wrote:

    Sorry to hear about your dad, Jeff. My mother passed away two years ago and it's a difficult thing to go through. I would guess a lot of us on this group are at the age where we have started losing parents, one of the more unpleasant things of life. Seems to help to have people around who can send some good thougths your way. Love the Linda Harrison story, didn't know she had that sense of humor. Take care.

    Mike M.



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > My dad died last Sunday and his memorial is Saturday. I bring it up because of the POTA connections. My own POTA adventures meant he knew Natalie Trundy and Bill "stage Cornelius" Blake personally. One of my favorite POTA memories is when I took Natalie to a sci-fi convention because Charlton Heston was going to be there. It was just after POTA2001 was greenlit. Linda Harrison was there and one of her sons and we hung with Heston and then Natalie and Linda took me to lunch. Anyway, the next day was my dad's birthday (so I guess April 2000) and it didn't occur to me to say something, I guess Natalie did, and Linda signed one of her hotter pictures to my dad, saying, "You were fantastic last night!". Just a terrific idea for an autographed photo and he loved it. That was such a sweet gesture from Natalie and Linda and I will always be grateful. My dad never understood my love of POTA either as a kid or an adult and that's something I was sad about but such are relationships.
    > Another thing that occurred to me lately is how the death of a father is significant in both the POTA movies that came out in the last almost 40 years. There's the scene between Thade and his father (played by Heston himself). Yeah, people groan about that scene (damn, they got Heston in ape makeup and that's the best they could come up with?) but I'm always moved by Thade's reaction to his dad's death. This scene is significant because Tim Burton's dad died during preproduction on POTA2001. Reportedly he was never close to his folks but there was something there because his next film was the ode to fatherhood "Big Fish". As it turns out, I love that movie and the song Eddie Vedder wrote for it, "Man of the Hour" and in fact I'm quoting it in the memorial card people will receive at my dad's service:
    >
    > And the road the old man paved
    > The broken seams along the way
    > The rusted signs left just for me
    > He was guiding me
    > Love, his own way
    >
    > Now the man of the hour
    > Is taking his final bow
    > As the curtain comes down
    > I feel this is just goodbye for now
    >
    > http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/05/10/dark-shadows-tim-burton-and-richard-d-zanuck-form-a-family/
    >
    > And of course the death of a father plays a big part in "Rise of the POTA" (it could be considered the reason the POTA is born). My dad was struggling with his health when that came out and I felt it was a pretty interesting theme for the original POTA generation. They were kids when the original POTA movies came out and now many of them are dealing with the same thing Will is in the movie, aging parents.
    > So, here's to you dad, and to all the POTA fathers who are struggling.
    >




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    Group: pota Message: 69085 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/25/2012
    Subject: Death of a Father..
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    Dear Jeff, so sorry and going through the same now with my father. I have almost the same reactions to Rise like you did pertaining to your Dad. I lost my Mom back in 1984 so when my father goes its its all she wrote. If it wasnt for my father forcing me to see POTA68 way back when I never would have enjoyed such a great life that I had.
    Take care my friend and remember as long as they are in our thoughts they still survive. Bye Bye, John M.
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    Group: pota Message: 69086 From: jessica rotich Date: 5/25/2012
    Subject: Re: Death of a father
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    My heartfelt condolences for your loss, Jeff. What great memories you have to remember your father with.

    Jess.

    On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:

    I as well my friend send out hearfelt prayers your way.
    I am so sorry...........

    On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:01 PM, PK <obriensdallas@...> wrote:

    Sorry to hear about your dad, Jeff. My mother passed away two years ago and it's a difficult thing to go through. I would guess a lot of us on this group are at the age where we have started losing parents, one of the more unpleasant things of life. Seems to help to have people around who can send some good thougths your way. Love the Linda Harrison story, didn't know she had that sense of humor. Take care.

    Mike M.



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > My dad died last Sunday and his memorial is Saturday. I bring it up because of the POTA connections. My own POTA adventures meant he knew Natalie Trundy and Bill "stage Cornelius" Blake personally. One of my favorite POTA memories is when I took Natalie to a sci-fi convention because Charlton Heston was going to be there. It was just after POTA2001 was greenlit. Linda Harrison was there and one of her sons and we hung with Heston and then Natalie and Linda took me to lunch. Anyway, the next day was my dad's birthday (so I guess April 2000) and it didn't occur to me to say something, I guess Natalie did, and Linda signed one of her hotter pictures to my dad, saying, "You were fantastic last night!". Just a terrific idea for an autographed photo and he loved it. That was such a sweet gesture from Natalie and Linda and I will always be grateful. My dad never understood my love of POTA either as a kid or an adult and that's something I was sad about but such are relationships.
    > Another thing that occurred to me lately is how the death of a father is significant in both the POTA movies that came out in the last almost 40 years. There's the scene between Thade and his father (played by Heston himself). Yeah, people groan about that scene (damn, they got Heston in ape makeup and that's the best they could come up with?) but I'm always moved by Thade's reaction to his dad's death. This scene is significant because Tim Burton's dad died during preproduction on POTA2001. Reportedly he was never close to his folks but there was something there because his next film was the ode to fatherhood "Big Fish". As it turns out, I love that movie and the song Eddie Vedder wrote for it, "Man of the Hour" and in fact I'm quoting it in the memorial card people will receive at my dad's service:
    >
    > And the road the old man paved
    > The broken seams along the way
    > The rusted signs left just for me
    > He was guiding me
    > Love, his own way
    >
    > Now the man of the hour
    > Is taking his final bow
    > As the curtain comes down
    > I feel this is just goodbye for now
    >
    > http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/05/10/dark-shadows-tim-burton-and-richard-d-zanuck-form-a-family/
    >
    > And of course the death of a father plays a big part in "Rise of the POTA" (it could be considered the reason the POTA is born). My dad was struggling with his health when that came out and I felt it was a pretty interesting theme for the original POTA generation. They were kids when the original POTA movies came out and now many of them are dealing with the same thing Will is in the movie, aging parents.
    > So, here's to you dad, and to all the POTA fathers who are struggling.
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 69087 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/25/2012
    Subject: Re: Death of a father
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    I am so sorry to learn of your loss.  My condolences to you and your family.  I know just what you're going through, I lost my brother, father, and wife within a five-year period. 
     
    But take care.
     
    Zach
     
     
     
     
     
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    Date: 5/24/2012 8:03:19 PM
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Death of a father
     
     

    I as well my friend send out hearfelt prayers your way.
    I am so sorry...........

    On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:01 PM, PK <obriensdallas@...> wrote:
     

    Sorry to hear about your dad, Jeff. My mother passed away two years ago and it's a difficult thing to go through. I would guess a lot of us on this group are at the age where we have started losing parents, one of the more unpleasant things of life. Seems to help to have people around who can send some good thougths your way. Love the Linda Harrison story, didn't know she had that sense of humor. Take care.

    Mike M.



    --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > My dad died last Sunday and his memorial is Saturday. I bring it up because of the POTA connections. My own POTA adventures meant he knew Natalie Trundy and Bill "stage Cornelius" Blake personally. One of my favorite POTA memories is when I took Natalie to a sci-fi convention because Charlton Heston was going to be there. It was just after POTA2001 was greenlit. Linda Harrison was there and one of her sons and we hung with Heston and then Natalie and Linda took me to lunch. Anyway, the next day was my dad's birthday (so I guess April 2000) and it didn't occur to me to say something, I guess Natalie did, and Linda signed one of her hotter pictures to my dad, saying, "You were fantastic last night!". Just a terrific idea for an autographed photo and he loved it. That was such a sweet gesture from Natalie and Linda and I will always be grateful. My dad never understood my love of POTA either as a kid or an adult and that's something I was sad about but such are relationships.
    > Another thing that occurred to me lately is how the death of a father is significant in both the POTA movies that came out in the last almost 40 years. There's the scene between Thade and his father (played by Heston himself). Yeah, people groan about that scene (damn, they got Heston in ape makeup and that's the best they could come up with?) but I'm always moved by Thade's reaction to his dad's death. This scene is significant because Tim Burton's dad died during preproduction on POTA2001. Reportedly he was never close to his folks but there was something there because his next film was the ode to fatherhood "Big Fish". As it turns out, I love that movie and the song Eddie Vedder wrote for it, "Man of the Hour" and in fact I'm quoting it in the memorial card people will receive at my dad's service:
    >
    > And the road the old man paved
    > The broken seams along the way
    > The rusted signs left just for me
    > He was guiding me
    > Love, his own way
    >
    > Now the man of the hour
    > Is taking his final bow
    > As the curtain comes down
    > I feel this is just goodbye for now
    >
    > http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/05/10/dark-shadows-tim-burton-and-richard-d-zanuck-form-a-family/
    >
    > And of course the death of a father plays a big part in "Rise of the POTA" (it could be considered the reason the POTA is born). My dad was struggling with his health when that came out and I felt it was a pretty interesting theme for the original POTA generation. They were kids when the original POTA movies came out and now many of them are dealing with the same thing Will is in the movie, aging parents.
    > So, here's to you dad, and to all the POTA fathers who are struggling.
    >

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    Subject: FW: happy anniversary escape
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    From: William Burge
    Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:27 PM
    Subject: happy anniversary escape

     

    dear group,  this is my tribute to the anniversary of escape from the planet of the apes summer of 1971. from william.

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    TGIF! The new issue of THE APE is now available.

    To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

    Have a great weekend holiday everybody!

    Visit all the Group's special features including:

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    Group: pota Message: 69090 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/25/2012
    Subject: Re: Death of a father
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    So sorry to hear of your loss, Jeff. My thoughts are with you and your family.......
    Tim


    From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:42 PM
    Subject: [pota] Death of a father

     
    My dad died last Sunday and his memorial is Saturday. I bring it up because of the POTA connections. My own POTA adventures meant he knew Natalie Trundy and Bill "stage Cornelius" Blake personally. One of my favorite POTA memories is when I took Natalie to a sci-fi convention because Charlton Heston was going to be there. It was just after POTA2001 was greenlit. Linda Harrison was there and one of her sons and we hung with Heston and then Natalie and Linda took me to lunch. Anyway, the next day was my dad's birthday (so I guess April 2000) and it didn't occur to me to say something, I guess Natalie did, and Linda signed one of her hotter pictures to my dad, saying, "You were fantastic last night!". Just a terrific idea for an autographed photo and he loved it. That was such a sweet gesture from Natalie and Linda and I will always be grateful. My dad never understood my love of POTA either as a kid or an adult and that's something I was sad about but such are relationships.
    Another thing that occurred to me lately is how the death of a father is significant in both the POTA movies that came out in the last almost 40 years. There's the scene between Thade and his father (played by Heston himself). Yeah, people groan about that scene (damn, they got Heston in ape makeup and that's the best they could come up with?) but I'm always moved by Thade's reaction to his dad's death. This scene is significant because Tim Burton's dad died during preproduction on POTA2001. Reportedly he was never close to his folks but there was something there because his next film was the ode to fatherhood "Big Fish". As it turns out, I love that movie and the song Eddie Vedder wrote for it, "Man of the Hour" and in fact I'm quoting it in the memorial card people will receive at my dad's service:

    And the road the old man paved
    The broken seams along the way
    The rusted signs left just for me
    He was guiding me
    Love, his own way

    Now the man of the hour
    Is taking his final bow
    As the curtain comes down
    I feel this is just goodbye for now

    http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/05/10/dark-shadows-tim-burton-and-richard-d-zanuck-form-a-family/

    And of course the death of a father plays a big part in "Rise of the POTA" (it could be considered the reason the POTA is born). My dad was struggling with his health when that came out and I felt it was a pretty interesting theme for the original POTA generation. They were kids when the original POTA movies came out and now many of them are dealing with the same thing Will is in the movie, aging parents.
    So, here's to you dad, and to all the POTA fathers who are struggling.



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    Group: pota Message: 69091 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 5/25/2012
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    Really sorry to hear that too, Jeff.
    All my best to you and you're family. That's heart breaking.
     
    Al
     

    From: "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...>
    To: "pota@yahoogroups.com" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:43 AM
    Subject: Re: [pota] Death of a father

     
    So sorry to hear of your loss, Jeff. My thoughts are with you and your family.......
    Tim

    From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
    To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:42 PM
    Subject: [pota] Death of a father

     
    My dad died last Sunday and his memorial is Saturday. I bring it up because of the POTA connections. My own POTA adventures meant he knew Natalie Trundy and Bill "stage Cornelius" Blake personally. One of my favorite POTA memories is when I took Natalie to a sci-fi convention because Charlton Heston was going to be there. It was just after POTA2001 was greenlit. Linda Harrison was there and one of her sons and we hung with Heston and then Natalie and Linda took me to lunch. Anyway, the next day was my dad's birthday (so I guess April 2000) and it didn't occur to me to say something, I guess Natalie did, and Linda signed one of her hotter pictures to my dad, saying, "You were fantastic last night!". Just a terrific idea for an autographed photo and he loved it. That was such a sweet gesture from Natalie and Linda and I will always be grateful. My dad never understood my love of POTA either as a kid or an adult and that's something I was sad about but such are relationships.
    Another thing that occurred to me lately is how the death of a father is significant in both the POTA movies that came out in the last almost 40 years. There's the scene between Thade and his father (played by Heston himself). Yeah, people groan about that scene (damn, they got Heston in ape makeup and that's the best they could come up with?) but I'm always moved by Thade's reaction to his dad's death. This scene is significant because Tim Burton's dad died during preproduction on POTA2001. Reportedly he was never close to his folks but there was something there because his next film was the ode to fatherhood "Big Fish". As it turns out, I love that movie and the song Eddie Vedder wrote for it, "Man of the Hour" and in fact I'm quoting it in the memorial card people will receive at my dad's service:

    And the road the old man paved
    The broken seams along the way
    The rusted signs left just for me
    He was guiding me
    Love, his own way

    Now the man of the hour
    Is taking his final bow
    As the curtain comes down
    I feel this is just goodbye for now

    http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/05/10/dark-shadows-tim-burton-and-richard-d-zanuck-form-a-family/

    And of course the death of a father plays a big part in "Rise of the POTA" (it could be considered the reason the POTA is born). My dad was struggling with his health when that came out and I felt it was a pretty interesting theme for the original POTA generation. They were kids when the original POTA movies came out and now many of them are dealing with the same thing Will is in the movie, aging parents.
    So, here's to you dad, and to all the POTA fathers who are struggling.





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    Group: pota Message: 69092 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2012
    Subject: Beneath premiered this day in 1970 , 5/26/2012, 12:00 am
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    Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
     
    Title:   Beneath premiered this day in 1970
     
    Date:   Saturday May 26, 2012
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    Group: pota Message: 69093 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2012
    Subject: Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday , 5/26/2012, 12:00 am
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    Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
     
    Title:   Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday
     
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    Group: pota Message: 69094 From: James Date: 5/26/2012
    Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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    Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

     

    Planet of the Apes, 1967 - Imgur
    Imgur is used to share photos with social networks and online communities, and has the funniest pictures from all over the Internet.
    imgur.com/a/Km85l

    Star treatment for Goldsmith's 'Trek' score
    Variety
    Bond cites "Planet of the Apes," "Logan's Run" and "Alien" as other seminal works by the composer but finds the original "Trek" a "transitional score for Goldsmith, where he started moving in a more romantic direction after years of very experimental, ...
    See all stories on this topic »

    TV This Week for May 27 - June 2: 'Hemingway and Gellhorn' on HBO
    Los Angeles Times
    “King Kong's” Andy Serkis gives yet another thoroughly captivating motion-capture performance as the super-smart simian leader of the “Rise of the Planet of the Apes” in this 2011 reboot of the classic sci-fi franchise. (Cinemax, 10 pm)
    See all stories on this topic »

    Paul Williams: Still Alive
    WOAI
    ... Kermit the Frog-performed tune "Rainbow Connection," and spent the better part of the decade as a staple of the talk show circuit, even performing a song in full Battle for the Planet of the Apes make-up on "The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson.
    See all stories on this topic »

     

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    Group: pota Message: 69095 From: James Date: 5/26/2012
    Subject: FW: beneath opens
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    From: William Burge
    Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:39 AM
    Subject: beneath opens

     

    dear group,  here are some photos on beneath 1970. from william

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    Subject: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad
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    From: William Burge
    Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:04 PM
    Subject: first beneath new york 1970 ad

     

    dear group,  here is the first new york beneath 1970 opening ad.  from william

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    Subject: FW: beneath 1970 ad
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    From: William Burge
    Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 12:31 PM
    Subject: beneath 1970 ad

     

    dear group,  here is a neat beneath ad work in 1970. from william.

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    Group: pota Message: 69098 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2012
    Subject: Golden Gate Bridge 75
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    The Golden Gate Bridge is 75 today. One of the problems that stalled finishing the "Rise of the POTA" script was figuring out the geography for the San Francisco action. According to the writers, Fox head Tom Rothman suggested using the Golden Gate Bridge as an iconic landmark a la the Statue of Liberty and then the geography and ending fell into place.

    http://goldengatebridge75.org
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    Group: pota Message: 69099 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2012
    Subject: 40 years of "Conquest" screwed
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    40 years ago yesterday (Saturday) was the Phoenix preview of "Conquest of the POTA", which resulted in a softening of the film. Of course, less violence and a more politically correct Caesar. It also resulted in Lisa being the first ape to say "No". Director J. Lee Thompson said in "POTA Revisited" that some were also complaining at the preview that people were being cruel to animals in the film. Would the original version have changed POTA's rep all these years? Dunno, but I'm glad the 2008 version restored it.
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    Group: pota Message: 69100 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2012
    Subject: Thanks!
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    Thank you for all the sympathy about my dad, including those who contacted me privately. I'd didn't post about it for sympathy, I felt it was a legit topic, but sympathy feels good. My dad and I couldn't have been more different but we never let that get in our way, so no regrets. The service turned out really good. Here's his obit and video tribute: http://renakerklockgether.com/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=1488645&fh_id=12260

    Thanks again. My cousin is in town from St. Louis and we're going to watch "Rise of the POTA" today (the 75th anniversary of the Golden Gate Bridge). ; )
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    Group: pota Message: 69101 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/27/2012
    Subject: Re: Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday , 5/26/2012, 12:00 am
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      Happy Birthday, Helena!
       
      Zach   
       
       
       
       
      -------Original Message-------
       
      From: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Date: 05/25/12 22:25:49
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday   , 5/26/2012, 12:00 am
       
      Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
       
      Title:   Helena Bonham Carter's Birthday   
       
      Date:   Saturday May 26, 2012
      Time:   All Day
      Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
       
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      Group: pota Message: 69102 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/27/2012
      Subject: Re: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad [1 Attachment]
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      That Loew's State 2 theatre is where I first saw BENEATH, on June 13, 1970, probably the 1:45 PM showing -- I can't really remember.
       
      How many here are old enough to have seen BENEATH when it originally opened?  When do you remember first hearing of "Beneath" and what did you think of it before you saw it?
       
      I'd known a sequel was in the works, but I knew nothing else.  I came home from school (5th grade) one afternoon in late May 1970, and my younger brother had been home all day for some reason, and he told me he'd seen a commercial on TV for "Underneath the Planet of the Apes."  I went nuts, of course, and spent the next day sitting in front of the TV for hours, and I'm not kidding, hours waiting for a 30 second commercial for this movie.  I kept the channel on either 5 (WNEW) or 11 (WPIX) until that commercial showed up -- it was torture.  When it finally did arrive it was the commercial where you first see the white arrow drop down and cut the screen in half.  I was struck right away with how bizarre the movie looked, it wasn't at all what I thought the sequel would be -- the whole mutant thing seemed very strange.
       
      I also remember wondering, "Who the hell is James Franciscus?"
       
      -- Rory


      -----Original Message-----
      From: James <JamesA1102@...>
      To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sat, May 26, 2012 5:26 pm
      Subject: [pota] FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad [1 Attachment]

       
      [Attachment(s) from James included below]
      From: William Burge
      Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:04 PM
      Subject: first beneath new york 1970 ad
       
      dear group,  here is the first new york beneath 1970 opening ad.  from william
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      Group: pota Message: 69103 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/27/2012
      Subject: Re: Thanks!
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      Yes, condolences, Jeff.
       
      What's this in your dad's bio about him having once beat "the Hustler" himself, Fast Eddie Felson?
       
      THE HUSTLER, of course, was and is a Fox movie.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
      To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 2:29 pm
      Subject: [pota] Thanks!

       
      Thank you for all the sympathy about my dad, including those who contacted me privately. I'd didn't post about it for sympathy, I felt it was a legit topic, but sympathy feels good. My dad and I couldn't have been more different but we never let that get in our way, so no regrets. The service turned out really good. Here's his obit and video tribute: http://renakerklockgether.com/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=1488645&fh_id=12260

      Thanks again. My cousin is in town from St. Louis and we're going to watch "Rise of the POTA" today (the 75th anniversary of the Golden Gate Bridge). ; )
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      Group: pota Message: 69104 From: James Date: 5/27/2012
      Subject: FW: conquest 72 ads
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      From: William Burge
      Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 4:19 PM
      Subject: conquest 72 ads

       

      dear group,  here are some conquest canada 1972 ads from william

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      Group: pota Message: 69105 From: James Date: 5/27/2012
      Subject: FW: ape photos
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      From: William Burge
      Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 4:35 PM
      Subject: ape photos

       

      dear group,  here is some different ape items.  from william

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      Group: pota Message: 69106 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2012
      Subject: Re: Thanks!
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      My dad said he played against Fast Eddie, the role model for Paul Newman's character in "The Hustler", and beat him (actually Eddie Parker, Felson being a pool alias). And my dad's friend since childhood came for the service and confirmed it for the bio.


      From: Haristas@...
      Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 12:43 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Re: Thanks!




      Yes, condolences, Jeff.

      What's this in your dad's bio about him having once beat "the Hustler" himself, Fast Eddie Felson?

      THE HUSTLER, of course, was and is a Fox movie.
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      Group: pota Message: 69107 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/27/2012
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      When would that have been?
       
      I'm asking because I'm getting ready to watch the Blu-ray of THE HUSTLER, having recently bought it when Amazon dropped the price to just $9.99.
       
      Not that this has anything to do with your dad.... I'm just curious.


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
      To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 5:35 pm
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thanks!

       
      My dad said he played against Fast Eddie, the role model for Paul Newman's character in "The Hustler", and beat him (actually Eddie Parker, Felson being a pool alias). And my dad's friend since childhood came for the service and confirmed it for the bio.

      From: Haristas@...
      Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 12:43 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Re: Thanks!

      Yes, condolences, Jeff.

      What's this in your dad's bio about him having once beat "the Hustler" himself, Fast Eddie Felson?

      THE HUSTLER, of course, was and is a Fox movie.

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      Group: pota Message: 69108 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2012
      Subject: Re: Thanks!
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      That was in the '60's in a bar. They didn't ask for I.D. or anything. A guy said he was Fast Eddie Felson and my dad played him. Could've been an imposter but my dad was a good pool player and so was this guy, so they had no reason to doubt him.

      http://forums.azbillards.com/showthread.php?t=105740


      From: Haristas@...
      Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 2:45 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Re: Thanks!




      When would that have been?

      I'm asking because I'm getting ready to watch the Blu-ray of THE HUSTLER, having recently bought it when Amazon dropped the price to just $9.99.

      Not that this has anything to do with your dad.... I'm just curious.
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      Group: pota Message: 69109 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/27/2012
      Subject: Re: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad
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      I remember seeing BENEATH at Topeka's Grand Theater, which was in the 600 block of SW Jackson Street back then.  It would've been mid-July 1970 when I saw it, along with my brother Eric and a couple of our friends.  I was thirteen at the time.  The building was razed around 1990 to make way for a parking lot to accommodate office workers in the area. 
       
      I also recall how I'd been told the same thing around then:  the title was supposed to be "Underneath the Planet of the Apes" and when I finally saw the commercial, I couldn't wait for it to arrive...but I too agree with just how bizarre it turned out to be.  I kept wondering when they were going to go below ground...however, I did find the subway scene impressive, and how the New York landmarks were portrayed (the New York Public Library, the Stock Exchange, and Radio City Music Hall, and the Cathedral)...but the mutants were something else again.
       
      My brother thought that when Brent and Nova came out of the tunnel, he was expecting to see New York being rebuilt...that wasn't the case, though, and the mutants worshipping the Bomb got to everyone in the audience.  As did the events leading to such a bleak ending.  As Taylor set off the Bomb I remember Eric turning to me and saying, "Well, that's it...there won't be any more Planet of the Apes", but he wanted to see who played what character as the credits rolled. 
       
      Personally, we felt bad because Zira and Cornelius were the only decent ones in the movie, and for them to get killed off was depressing.  But of course, there was another sequel which followed, and told of their story as they attempted to ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES. 
       
      And, I've said this before...but wasn't there the scene where Caspay, the Verger of the Cathedral, and the Fat Man (Adiposo) running by the ruined Radio City marquee and were gunned down by orders of General Ursus on the way to the Cathedral?  I am still certain this scene existed...along with the Ape Army going past the Stock Exchange. 
       
      I feel an entire movie could have been made which bridged the gap between BENEATH and ESCAPE...but fortunately, some of the members have made superb comics which have attempted to bridge that very gap (i.e., "Milo, Rider at the World's End", and "Salvage", among others).  In any case I can't thank them enough for doing as such. 
       
      Anyway, these are my own memories of the movie.
       
      Zach 
       
       
       
       
      -------Original Message-------
       
      Date: 5/27/2012 1:30:56 PM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Re: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad
       
       

      That Loew's State 2 theatre is where I first saw BENEATH, on June 13, 1970, probably the 1:45 PM showing -- I can't really remember.
       
      How many here are old enough to have seen BENEATH when it originally opened?  When do you remember first hearing of "Beneath" and what did you think of it before you saw it?
       
      I'd known a sequel was in the works, but I knew nothing else.  I came home from school (5th grade) one afternoon in late May 1970, and my younger brother had been home all day for some reason, and he told me he'd seen a commercial on TV for "Underneath the Planet of the Apes."  I went nuts, of course, and spent the next day sitting in front of the TV for hours, and I'm not kidding, hours waiting for a 30 second commercial for this movie.  I kept the channel on either 5 (WNEW) or 11 (WPIX) until that commercial showed up -- it was torture.  When it finally did arrive it was the commercial where you first see the white arrow drop down and cut the screen in half.  I was struck right away with how bizarre the movie looked, it wasn't at all what I thought the sequel would be -- the whole mutant thing seemed very strange.
       
      I also remember wondering, "Who the hell is James Franciscus?"
       
      -- Rory


      -----Original Message-----
      From: James <JamesA1102@...>
      To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sat, May 26, 2012 5:26 pm
      Subject: [pota] FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad [1 Attachment]

       
      [Attachment(s) from James included below]
      From: William Burge
      Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:04 PM
      Subject: first beneath new york 1970 ad
       
      dear group,  here is the first new york beneath 1970 opening ad.  from william

       
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      Group: pota Message: 69110 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/28/2012
      Subject: Re: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad
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      No such scene exists/existed...



      In a message dated 5/27/2012 10:14:06 PM Central Daylight Time,
      Zasco1957@... writes:


      > And, I've said this before...but wasn't there the scene where Caspay, the
      > Verger of the Cathedral, and the Fat Man (Adiposo) running by the ruined
      > Radio City marquee and were gunned down by orders of General Ursus on the
      > way to the Cathedral?

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      Group: pota Message: 69111 From: zasco1957 Date: 5/28/2012
      Subject: Re: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad
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      Okay.  Thanks.
       
      Zach   
       
       
       
       
      -------Original Message-------
       
      Date: 05/28/12 00:45:21
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: first beneath new york 1970 ad
       
       

      No such scene exists/existed...

      In a message dated 5/27/2012 10:14:06 PM Central Daylight Time,
      Zasco1957@... writes:

      > And, I've said this before...but wasn't there the scene where Caspay, the
      > Verger of the Cathedral, and the Fat Man (Adiposo) running by the ruined
      > Radio City marquee and were gunned down by orders of General Ursus on the
      > way to the Cathedral?

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