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Well, I think they were definitely going for an original POTA look and with how tall he ends up there's no doubt where he's headed. The director probably told them to make his hair look purty for when Heston arrives.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:56 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Does Caesars hair in "Rise" get more POTA like towards the finale?



Something I noticed in Rise of the POTA is Caesars hair get slightly fuller and darker and the suggestion of a part in it? From the fight on the bridge till the films end or am I imagining it? Its starting to look like my POTA 68 trading cards with Cornelius and Zira on them with the shorter doos as opposed to the Escape onward look. It would be cool to have an update of the original look not Burton look though they did a great job. Am I wrong? Take care John M.

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This is fantastic, thanks, Jeff!   Zach          -------Original Message-------   From: Dario Sciola Date: 6/22/2012 7:47:27 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: The Jacobs File # 1     Wow. There's quite a bit to absorb from that one article. I was also surprised to hear that up to that point there was a monkey in each of his previous movies (can anyone confirm that?). When it comes to Frankenstein, there was a pretty faithful made for TV adaptation in the mid seventies. "Frankenstein: The True Story" was an extended movie shown over 2 night with Micheal Sarazzin as the creature and an all star cast with lavish sets and high production values. It would be surprising that Jacobs did not know about this production if he was at all close to Hollywood. I wonder if he was marginally involved. Nothing in IMDB seems to indicate so: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070074/ Never even heard of "Journey of the Oceanauts" much less the fact that he had already gone to the trouble to panelling out the scenes. x But if if he did have all the scenes mapped out like that, there must have been a script to go along. It is surprising to hear that Jacobs believed we were even close to having 'artificial gills' and that we would soon be able to walk under the ocean like that. And what the hell was that about bunnies being surgically altered to live under water for six months! I hope to see more from the Jacobs File collection, but you really have to get a scanner. You'll be transcribing way to much. Thanks for posting this Jeff. Dario ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff K." <veetus@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 1:03:58 AM Subject: [PotaDG] The Jacobs File # 1 Due to my relationship with Natalie Trundy I wound up with a lot of Arthur Jacobs stuff, including clippings compiled by his staff. There's been plenty written about his POTA movies but I was curious about some of his sci-fi projects that got away. He was planning a faithful version of the novel that started science fiction, Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein" (eventually made in the '90's by Kenneth Branagh, with music by Patrick "Rise of the POTA" Doyle). He was the first producer to pursue a movie version of the book "Dune". And what sounds like his primo project, "Journey of the Oceanauts", was a hard sell along the lines of his original POTA. I decided it was time to go through this stuff. But better yet, maybe WE should go through this stuff. I'll try to daily post something (I'll have to describe since I can't scan) and in about 20 years we'll get through it. Here's the first piece: It's a story from reporter Dick Kleiner for the Newspaper Enterprise Association/New York-Cleveland. There's no date but it looks like it came out with "Escape". "Movie Producer Goes Ape" by Dick Kleiner (includes a picture of Jacobs) HOLLYWOOD - (NEA) - Producers are men who solve problems, but Arthur P. Jacobs has one now which is a real brain-buster. Where can he put a monkey in a film set underwater? This requires some explanation. Jacobs has come to regard the presence of a monkey in his movies as a lucky talisman, much as Alfred Hitchcock always sticks himself in his movies somewhere. It began with his first film, "What A Way To Go", in which an ape helped Paul Newman paint pictures. Then came "Doctor Dolittle", where Rex Harrison had a monkey buddy. "Planet of the Apes" followed and that was all-monkey. After that, he found spots for chimps in "The Chairman" and "Goodbye, Mr. Chips", and then came two more "Planet of the Apes" pictures - "Beneath the POTA" and the new one, "Escape From the POTA", which is a delight. Coming up is a fourth in the series, "Conquest of the POTA". And then will come Jacobs' biggest film, "Journey of the Oceanauts". This is the story of four men walking across the Pacific, underwater, in the 1990's from Los Angeles to Japan. Now, where can he put that monkey? Jacobs has been working on "Oceanauts" for a couple of years already. He showed me some of the 1,100 drawings he has had made, drawings which show each scene and how the effects can be achieved. He says the possibility that men will be able to walk along the ocean floor by the 1990's is scientifically sound. By then, there will be a way of operating on a man, giving him a form of artificial gills. He says that already such surgery has been performed on rabbits who have survived happily underwater for as long as six months. Before that film is shot, however, the fourth of the "Apes" movies will come along. There seems to be no end in sight for this hugely successful series. Jacobs thought the second one would be the last and the apes' planet blew up at the end of that one and everybody was killed. But the world wanted more, so Jacobs figured out a way to do the one in current release. The fourth will be relatively easy, and if you've seen "Escape From the POTA" you can pretty well figure out what "Conquest of the POTA" will be about. After that - "If that's the last", Jacobs says - there will be a TV show based on the Apes plot. He says they have been after him to do a series since the original film came out, but he won't do it until the feature films have run their course. He'll be happy meanwhile if anybody can tell him where to put that monkey in the underwater picture. He's losing sleep over it.

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John,

I'm very sorry you feel that way and apologize for anything I said that has offended you. I have no doubt that you saw Conquest on June 28th at the Embassy theater. But based on the available evidence, I assume it must have been a press screening or special preview.

I have seen many films at such previews before the official release date. In 2001, one of the newspapers here in NYC had special screening of the remake a few days before it opened on July 27th.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
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> Ever feel like your getting gang b####$, I do.

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When Heston arrives??? Jeff, Heston died four years ago, it was in all the papers. Unless, OMG!!! Are you saying that when the zombie apocalypse comes, it will be led by Charlton Heston?!?!?!?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Well, I think they were definitely going for an original POTA look and with how tall he ends up there's no doubt where he's headed. The director probably told them to make his hair look purty for when Heston arrives.
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I just repeating what the director sez. I'm innocent!


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:24 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
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When Heston arrives??? Jeff, Heston died four years ago, it was in all the papers. Unless, OMG!!! Are you saying that when the zombie apocalypse comes, it will be led by Charlton Heston?!?!?!?

I seriously, seriously doubt that the suits at Fox want to, even in the ultimate course of the trilogy that they're planning, that they want to get to a point where they will recreate, in CGI or whatever, the look (makeup design, costumes, art direction) of the original movie. I'm sure their attitude is one of, "You want the original movie? GO WATCH THE ORIGINAL MOVIE!"

You're just setting yourselves up for disappointment and frustration if you have the desire for Fox to simply return you to the planet of the apes for "More Adventures on the Old Planet of the Apes." BOOM! is doing that for you. That's where it is going to happen. As far as $100 Million dollar movie productions go, it'll be in their own direction and at this point, who knows about the future?

It'll be fun to see what they come up with, but only if you don't expect them to do what you want them to do.

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When Heston arrives??? Jeff, Heston died four years ago, it was in all the papers. Unless, OMG!!! Are you saying that when the zombie apocalypse comes, it will be led by Charlton Heston?!?!?!?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Well, I think they were definitely going for an original POTA look and with how tall he ends up there's no doubt where he's headed. The director probably told them to make his hair look purty for when Heston arrives.
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That's Bill Blake, but it's not for Mego. It was their show.


From: James
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 1:01 PM
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From: William Burge
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 12:26 PM
Subject: ape items


dear group, look at the third photo it has a date of 1976 in new york and i dont know if this photo is bill blake or roddy mcdowall-- it looks like they were promoting mego planet toys i dont know maybe someone can clear this up. the last image is what a billboard poster looked like on conquest. from william

They say June 14 for Los Angeles but did they get it from one of the books?


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Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 2:18 PM
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From: William Burge
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 1:45 PM
Subject: la conquest opening



dear group, the website tcm has the answer for conquest opening in california go to website as follows www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/18639/conquest-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/ on the lower right hand corner is the release dates for la and new york. hope this helps from william

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  Due to my relationship with Natalie Trundy I wound up with a lot of Arthur Jacobs stuff, including clippings compiled by his staff. There's been plenty written about his POTA movies but I was curious about some of his sci-fi projects that got away. He was planning a faithful version of the novel that started science fiction, Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein" (eventually made in the '90's by Kenneth Branagh, with music by Patrick "Rise of the POTA" Doyle). He was the first producer to pursue a movie version of the book "Dune". And what sounds like his primo project, "Journey of the Oceanauts", was a hard sell along the lines of his original POTA.

 I decided it was time to go through this stuff. But better yet, maybe WE should go through this stuff. I'll try to daily post something (I'll have to describe since I can't scan) and in about 20 years we'll get through it. Here's the first piece:

 

 It's a story from reporter Dick Kleiner for the Newspaper Enterprise Association/New York-Cleveland. There's no date but it looks like it came out with "Escape".

 

 "Movie Producer Goes Ape" by Dick Kleiner  (includes a picture of Jacobs)

 

  HOLLYWOOD - (NEA) - Producers are men who solve problems, but Arthur P. Jacobs has one now which is a real brain-buster. Where can he put a monkey in a film set underwater? This requires some explanation. Jacobs has come to regard the presence of a monkey in his movies as a lucky talisman, much as Alfred Hitchcock always sticks himself in his movies somewhere.

  It began with his first film, "What A Way To Go", in which an ape helped Paul Newman paint pictures. Then came "Doctor Dolittle", where Rex Harrison had a monkey buddy. "Planet of the Apes" followed and that was all-monkey. After that, he found spots for chimps in "The Chairman" and "Goodbye, Mr. Chips", and then came two more "Planet of the Apes" pictures - "Beneath the POTA" and the new one, "Escape From the POTA", which is a delight. Coming up is a fourth in the series, "Conquest of the POTA".

  And then will come Jacobs' biggest film, "Journey of the Oceanauts". This is the story of four men walking across the Pacific, underwater, in the 1990's from Los Angeles to Japan. Now, where can he put that monkey? Jacobs has been working on "Oceanauts" for a couple of years already. He showed me some of the 1,100 drawings he has had made, drawings which show each scene and how the effects can be achieved. He says the possibility that men will be able to walk along the ocean floor by the 1990's is scientifically sound. By then, there will be a way of operating on a man, giving him a form of artificial gills. He says that already such surgery has been performed on rabbits who have survived happily underwater for as long as six months.

  Before that film is shot, however, the fourth of the "Apes" movies will come along. There seems to be no end in sight for this hugely successful series. Jacobs thought the second one would be the last and the apes' planet blew up at the end of that one and everybody was killed. But the world wanted more, so Jacobs figured out a way to do the one in current release. The fourth will be relatively easy, and if you've seen "Escape From the POTA" you can pretty well figure out what "Conquest of the POTA" will be about. After that - "If that's the last", Jacobs says - there will be a TV show based on the Apes plot. He says they have been after him to do a series since the original film came out, but he won't do it until the feature films have run their course. He'll be happy meanwhile if anybody can tell him where to put that monkey in the underwater picture. He's losing sleep over it.

 

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Just noticed this on the Box Office Mojo chart, they cite May 23, 1973 as the release date for Battle. Since there is no dispute that Battle's release date is June 15th, I would question that chart as a reliable source.

>
> From: William Burge
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:46 PM
> Subject: conquest opening
>
>
>
> dear group, i found the website to the hollywood reporter and in an
> article they give june 14, 1972 conquest opening-- heres another website
> called box office mojo it says the same thing here is the website to look
> at all the box office take on the ape films plus release dates go to
> http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=planetoftheapes.htm to
> get the information hope this helps from william
>

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Daily "Variety", 9/29/65, pg. 3: article about Warner Bros. suing "Art" Jacobs' Apjac Prod. and J. Lee Thompson's Orchard Prod. over a $ 25,500 advance made in 1963. A total of 3 advances were made: $ 6,250 (8/20/63); $ 3,000 (8/27/63); and $ 16,250 (9/16/63). "Purpose of the advancement is unknown. Pair made "What A Way To Go" last year at 20th-Fox". (Pg.4 sez the Franklin Schaffner directed, Charlton Heston starring "The War Lord" will have it's world premiere in Detroit on 11/10/65).

Daily "Variety", 10/8/65, pg. 16: In an article on another topic it mentions two Jacobs/Gregory Peck projects. Jacobs had optioned "The Thunder of Giants" for him and currently had an option on "A Time of Glory". Jacobs and Peck eventually did "The Chairman" together.

Daily "Variety", 12/28/65, front pg: Announces that Mort Abrahams is leaving the show "The Man From UNCLE" as a producer to join Apjac Prods as "v.p. and general production exec". Boris Ingster will replace him on "UNCLE". It sez: "Abrahams will function on all Apjac productions and also will become an individual producer of some productions. In addition, he will develop it's first tv wing for Apjac. Immediate duties of Abrahams will be on the 20th-Fox productions of "Doctor Dolittle" and "Choice Cuts" and MGM's "Goodbye, Mr. Chips"."

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I'm still not sold. I checked the TCM website and it gets the date of Escape's release wrong by a week (http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/18642/Escape-from-the-Planet-of-the-Apes/) and doesn't even list a release date for Battle (http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/68193/Battle-for-the-Planet-of-the-Apes/) so any info from that site is not reliable.

I also checked the AFI website and they only list the month and year a film was released (http://www.afi.com/members/catalog/AbbrView.aspx?s=&Movie=54691) and they too get some facts wrong (http://www.afi.com/members/catalog/AbbrView.aspx?s=&Movie=22314) such as citing April 1968 as the release date for Planet.

So far there is no concrete proof that Conquest opened in LA or any where else prior to June 29th. That's just a supposition. We do know that Variety printed a review on June 14th but that doesn't prove the film opened on that date. In fact, the Variety review of Planet that William posted was dated January 31, 1968 (http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/1226848/499298507/name/img220%5B1%5D.jpg) so it may have been SOP back in those days for Variety to publish their review a week or two before a film opened.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> I had a strong feeling William Burge would be the one to finally nail this down, just too bad he no longer has access to old newspapers, but that's another story.... Thanks, William.
>
> I'm comfortable now to say that the June 14, 1972 date in Eric Greene's book and in "POTA Revisited" is the actual opening theatrical date for CONQUEST, and that after all that has flown around in the last week or so, the movie did, in fact, open in LA before New York. I still wish I had an ad to see, but I've suspected this was the case and this is as close to proof as we're likely to get until an actual premiere ad from June 14 in LA comes to the surface.
>
> Being an "East Coast" APES fan, though, June 29th will always be the "real" opening date, but that makes John crazy, so, "Nuff said."
>
> -- Rory
>
>

William,

Thanks for the research. I tried to look on the Hollywood Reporter website but couldn't find anything about Conquest. Could you post a link?

>
> From: William Burge
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:41 AM
> Subject: conquest opening
>
>
>
> dear group, I looked up on the hollywood reporter magazine website gives
> june 14, 1972 for conquest and the la and new york openings are as follows
> -- june14, 1972 --june 29, 1972 according to the tcm website the conquest
> openings provided by the american film institute in short the afi from
> william
>

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I celebrated the 40th anniversary of "Conquest of the POTA" on Friday by visiting Century City. I ate at Subway to honor the mutants but I didn't buy anything from Banana Republic or Aldo. Was I in a rush to see the sites of the ape revolution? No, let's just say I crossed that bridge when I came to it. Then I went to see the new doc "Paul Williams Still Alive" at the Nuart with a q & a with the man, the ape, the legend himself, and his director. No, Paul wasn't in "Conquest" but he knew Caesar, Lisa and Kolp personally.
The movie is a lot of fun and is very entertainingly told, keeping the old clips coming but mostly showing Paul's life today (concert tours, celebrity gold tournies, riding in cars). It's a very unassuming film, no big drama about being a celebrity and his substance abuse adventures. It's not TMZ. I guess I could catagorize it as comedic, in both it's style and subject. It's very moving in spots but the word for this is "fun", especially for those who have a hazy memory of the '70's as the "Me, Paul Williams" Decade.
OK, let's get down to brass tacks. There's only about a two second clip from "Battle", but they didn't show this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE2m355-JRo

However, they did show this clip seen at the end of the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Gc-fW_aSU

It's unlikely but maybe the DVD will have the full interview as an extra. There's no mention of "Battle", but for fans of Williams (and you certainly would be if you met him in person) or for people who want to know more about the man behind the ape Virgil, this doc is recommended. It's a good time.
Then there was the q & a, which was short (I'm not going to say it) so he could give out autographed posters of the movie and meet the folks. That's just the way he rolls, he's a people person and a great guy. There's a moment in the film where he and the director are watching a clip of him guest hosting "The Merv Griffin Show" in the '80's and he hated the person he had become, forbidding the director to use that clip. In the q & a he said he later agreed to show it because it was important to show what he felt was his lowest moment. It was also his idea that the director should become part of the film because he felt pretending there were no cameras would be a lie and he wanted to be truthful.
Someone mentioned "Bugsy Malone" (which he did the songs for) and he said the stage musical version is very successful in the U.K., it's performed a lot, it's as big as "Grease" is in the U.S. (that's big!). There are also plans for a remake of his cult film "The Phantom of the Paradise" using the same songs which he wrote (John Chambers did the makeup). And it's obvious from the movie and from the audience at the screening that he's as big as he ever was (sorry) to his fans. Paul rocks!
Here's an interview of him and his director (his director and he?) from "Aint It Cool". They have another interview for next week wherein he reportedly talks about his "Apes" work so keep the eyes peeled like a banana.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/56588

Im not serious, and please say what you feel I dont offend that easy Boss. Funny you say the press screening for 2001 apes. My buddy in the post office has a sister that works at Fox publicity he got tickets for that event but I gave them to my daughters since they were going into the city anyway and then on opening day I went on official premiere day. Take care James, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> John,
>
> I'm very sorry you feel that way and apologize for anything I said that
> has offended you. I have no doubt that you saw Conquest on June 28th at
> the Embassy theater. But based on the available evidence, I assume it
> must have been a press screening or special preview.
>
> I have seen many films at such previews before the official release
> date. In 2001, one of the newspapers here in NYC had special screening
> of the remake a few days before it opened on July 27th.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ever feel like your getting gang b####$, I do.
>

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John, you numbskull, of course you get offended easy. Remember the time I told you to @%##$>CENSORED!<#@% ? You got pretty offended!
Maybe the "Conquest" release date is one of those things Man was not meant to know. But I'm keep looking for that list of L.A. Times review dates. It won't say the theater but their reviews are usually the day, or the day before the release.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 5:21 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: CONQUEST recap



Im not serious, and please say what you feel I dont offend that easy Boss. Funny you say the press screening for 2001 apes. My buddy in the post office has a sister that works at Fox publicity he got tickets for that event but I gave them to my daughters since they were going into the city anyway and then on opening day I went on official premiere day. Take care James, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> John,
>
> I'm very sorry you feel that way and apologize for anything I said that
> has offended you. I have no doubt that you saw Conquest on June 28th at
> the Embassy theater. But based on the available evidence, I assume it
> must have been a press screening or special preview.
>
> I have seen many films at such previews before the official release
> date. In 2001, one of the newspapers here in NYC had special screening
> of the remake a few days before it opened on July 27th.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ever feel like your getting gang b####$, I do.
>

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It's funny you should bring up It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (a great movie BTW) because that's what I've been thinking about this whole Conquest Premiere debate that I've been quietly observing from the sidelines.

On the one hand it's great to see so many people actively debating such an obscure and miniscule piece of POTA history. But on the other hand I can't understand why it really matters all that much.

I guess at this point it's only groups like this one that gives a damn. Sad in a way, but if that's the case then perhaps it is more important than I originally thought.

I'm not routing for any one side, but I too would now like to find out if this ever gets resolved with indisputable proof.

Keep up the fight boys.

Dario

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It's like we're those awful people in MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD under the "Big W" chanting "Dig! Dig! Dig!"

Keep digging, Billy Burge. You're the man!

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We're getting warmer. The first "Box Office" magazine article is dated 6/26/72 and sez "Conquest" opened "last week" at the Egyptian and Westwood theaters in Los Angeles. That's certainly before 6/29.


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From: William Burge [billburge48@...]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:28 AM
Subject: conquest articles



dear group, here are some conquest articles from box office magazine dated june 26,1972--july 24, 1972 i hope this helps from william

I believe this is the first ever public showing of the bloody "Conquest" original cut that came out on blu-ray. Let's get that history written before we forget. 100 years from now when this version is a revered classic they'll want to know about the first public showing. We owe it to future generations.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38419

I'm not so sure about the Hollywood Reporter article. If you read through the whole thing, it gets the dates of Beneath and Battle's openings wrong.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> It's the Hollywood Reporter item that nails it for me, but AGAIN... I sure wish we had an opening day LA ad page with the June 14th date on it.
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Its a pis#### conest. I opened up a can of worms and we found so many different answers and sources and half only match so their is a problem and we love fighting over nothing, they do even more physco babble at Star War sites. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
> It's funny you should bring up It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (a great movie BTW) because that's what I've been thinking about this whole Conquest Premiere debate that I've been quietly observing from the sidelines.
>
> On the one hand it's great to see so many people actively debating such an obscure and miniscule piece of POTA history. But on the other hand I can't understand why it really matters all that much.
>
> I guess at this point it's only groups like this one that gives a damn. Sad in a way, but if that's the case then perhaps it is more important than I originally thought.
>
> I'm not routing for any one side, but I too would now like to find out if this ever gets resolved with indisputable proof.
>
> Keep up the fight boys.
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Haristas@...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 6:59:42 PM
> Subject: [pota] Re: FW: conquest research
>
>
> It's like we're those awful people in MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD under the "Big W" chanting "Dig! Dig! Dig!"
>
> Keep digging, Billy Burge. You're the man!
>

OOOOOHH YEAH!!! Hi Jeff, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> John, you numbskull, of course you get offended easy. Remember the time I told you to @%##$>CENSORED!<#@% ? You got pretty offended!
> Maybe the "Conquest" release date is one of those things Man was not meant to know. But I'm keep looking for that list of L.A. Times review dates. It won't say the theater but their reviews are usually the day, or the day before the release.
>
>
> From: JohnM conquest-idor
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 5:21 PM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: CONQUEST recap
>
>
>
> Im not serious, and please say what you feel I dont offend that easy Boss. Funny you say the press screening for 2001 apes. My buddy in the post office has a sister that works at Fox publicity he got tickets for that event but I gave them to my daughters since they were going into the city anyway and then on opening day I went on official premiere day. Take care James, John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > I'm very sorry you feel that way and apologize for anything I said that
> > has offended you. I have no doubt that you saw Conquest on June 28th at
> > the Embassy theater. But based on the available evidence, I assume it
> > must have been a press screening or special preview.
> >
> > I have seen many films at such previews before the official release
> > date. In 2001, one of the newspapers here in NYC had special screening
> > of the remake a few days before it opened on July 27th.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ever feel like your getting gang b####$, I do.
> >
>

.html In case you were interested but may have forgotten, the new Planet of the Apes audiobook, unabridged and read by Greg Wise, has just shipped to me.

Planet of the Apes [Audiobook, CD]




Hunter
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Here's a question to ponder . . .

If Mandemus was Virgil's teacher,

what are their ages respective to Caesar's?

 

 

In a message dated 6/24/2012 8:02:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

No, Paul wasn't in "Conquest" but he knew Caesar, Lisa and Kolp personally.

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On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

In case you were interested but may have forgotten, the new Planet of the Apes audiobook, unabridged and read by Greg Wise, has just shipped to me.

Planet of the Apes [Audiobook, CD]




Hunter

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

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I have the actual proof, with the review and the full page with the "Conquest" ad. Plus Schaffner's "Nicholas and Alexandria" was out, "Clockwork Orange", "Slaughterhouse 5". "Ben" was coming out, had an ad. Great era.


From: Jeff K.
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 5:19 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: It's time it was finished. Finished!


Damn you, Burge. I went down to my old Hollywood library and got the proof myself.
Anyway. Eric Greene was right, Doctor. Burge proved it. Los Angeles was there first. You owe it your "Conquest", whatever civilization you've got.

Damn you, Burge. I went down to my old Hollywood library and got the proof myself.
Anyway. Eric Greene was right, Doctor. Burge proved it. Los Angeles was there first. You owe it your "Conquest", whatever civilization you've got.

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Exile #3 from BOOM! ends on a cliff hanger, in every sense of the word.Really dramatic stuff--can't wait for the finale.
There's a chimp character in there called Timon who is the spitting image of Alex' dad from Terror #1 ---even the hair style replicates Ploog's art.I wonder did Marc Laming the artist intend this or is it just a happy echo? Great series.John, Scrolls.

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UNIVERSAL MONSTERS...YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 7:28 AM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

I plan on getting this too, but for now there are just too many Blu-ray releases coming that I have to budget myself for.

Down the road, in October actually, there's a huge Blu-ray box set of the Universal monster movies finally arriving. Got to start saving for that. APES ain't everything.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 25, 2012 3:35 pm
Subject: [pota] Fwd: Your Amazon.com order of "Planet of the Apes" has shipped!

In case you were interested but may have forgotten, the new Planet of the Apes audiobook, unabridged and read by Greg Wise, has just shipped to me.

Planet of the Apes [Audiobook, CD]




Hunter

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

Well, no big parades for William Burge and me (William Burge and I?) solving this mystery but I'll send the "proof" to James for confirmation.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:46 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: conquest articles




It's too bad we don't have an opening date for those engagements of CONQUEST at The Egyptian and Westwood Theatres, but it's becoming obvious to me that CONQUEST opened at those two theatres on June 14, 1972. No definite proof yet, but that's what I think.

I no longer think that POTA Rivisted made a mistake about CONQUEST's opening date, nor the Greene book. Joe Russo has told me he's never read Eric Greene's book, so it's too much of a coincidence that they'd both make the same mistake. The two books must have gotten their information from independent sources, and those sources would most probably be giving them the correct information. It's the Hollywood Reporter item that nails it for me, but AGAIN... I sure wish we had an opening day LA ad page with the June 14th date on it.



-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 25, 2012 8:45 am
Subject: [pota] FW: conquest articles [7 Attachments]



[Attachment(s) from James included below]
From: William Burge [billburge48@...]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:28 AM
Subject: conquest articles

dear group, here are some conquest articles from box office magazine dated june 26,1972--july 24, 1972 i hope this helps from william

Great idea. If someone does go to the library in LA, please ask if they have archives for the old Los Angeles Herald-Examiner. The Herald-Examiner was the newspaper that James Bacon wrote his column for. Unfortunately, the paper went out of business in 1989, so there is no online archive.

Bacon had bit parts in all the original POTA films. He said that he wrote a column for each film describing his experience on the set. It would be great to get copies of those columns. I would love to read them and I'd bet many other fans would too.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Just had a thought.....
>
> Is there anyone here in the LA area, or in that time zone, that would be willing to call the Main Branch of the Los Angeles Public Library system and ask them if they have the LA Times on microfilm back to June 14, 1972. Then ask to talk to a librarian in the department that's in charge of the microfilms. Hopefully you get a hold of someone nice. Tell them that you're writing an article on the APES franchise and you need to nail down the opening of the movie in LA which you believe is on June 14, 1972, but you'd like to confirm it. Then, (and this is the tricky part) ask if there's anyway this librarian could go look and see if there is an ad for the opening of the movie in the movie times section of the paper on that date. Tell them that'll they don't have to do it right away -- if they'll do it at all -- and that you'll call back in an hour or something. Be very nice and sound like you really need a favor because you can't do it yourself for some reason.
>
> I'd do it myself, but I'm three hours behind LA and I work evenings, so I'm gone by two in the afternoon -- and it's long distance.
>
> Let's see if there's anybody here with the guts to try even this. Can't hurt to try. Who knows, maybe even Billy Burge will try!
>
>

Mandemus was older. Virgil was younger.

For a more detailed theory on this, it was covered in Ape City Chronicles (http://www.potamediaarchive.com/ACC.htm); specifically in: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/ACC/ACC6.gif and http://www.potamediaarchive.com/ACC/ACC19.gif.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Here's a question to ponder . . .
> If Mandemus was Virgil's teacher,
> what are their ages respective to Caesar's?
>
>

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Great! When do we get to see a scan of the page?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I have the actual proof, with the review and the full page with the "Conquest" ad. Plus Schaffner's "Nicholas and Alexandria" was out, "Clockwork Orange", "Slaughterhouse 5". "Ben" was coming out, had an ad. Great era.
>
>

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Greetings, all.  Here is an ad for the Mego dolls I found from 1975 for those of you who collect the ads.  Enjoy!

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

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Greetings again.  Here is an ad for the rubber "wiggly" apes figures, also from 1975.  Enjoy!

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

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When you receive it. It's in da mail.
Just don't say "Nonsense!" and crumple it up.


From: jamesa1102
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:55 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: It's time it was finished. Finished!




Great! When do we get to see a scan of the page?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I have the actual proof, with the review and the full page with the "Conquest" ad. Plus Schaffner's "Nicholas and Alexandria" was out, "Clockwork Orange", "Slaughterhouse 5". "Ben" was coming out, had an ad. Great era.
>
>

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On Thursday, News Corp. (the corporate owner of 20th Century Fox and, thus, POTA) is expected to announce it is splitting it's entertainment division from it's scandal-racked publishing division. What's that mean? Dunno, guess POTA has been cleared of any wrongdoing. I always had faith in POTA.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/news-corp-expected-to-announce-split-plans-on-thursday/

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The ad with the picture of Mort Abrahams and Edward G. Robinson (ad # 1) is kind of weird.


From: James
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:52 PM
To: Pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] FW: planet of the apes paper ads [7 Attachments]



[Attachment(s) from James included below]


From: William Burge [billburge48@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:41 PM
Subject: planet of the apes paper ads



dear group, here are some neat paper ads for planet. i found out planet first la run started on march 27, 1968 at the loews beverly theater and in houston and dallas tx it started april 11, 1968 downtown houston majestic theatre and lasted until the end of may 1968 then opened in june 1968 at the local drive in theatres one of them was called the loews sharpstown then in dec 1968 it played at the meyerland general cinema saw it there for 60 cents . from william

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Dont' worry. As soon as I get it, I'll scan it and post it to the group.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> When you receive it. It's in da mail.
> Just don't say "Nonsense!" and crumple it up.
>
>

You are forgetting that the bloody original cut played theatrically in Japan upon original release in 1972.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I believe this is the first ever public showing of the bloody "Conquest" original cut that came out on blu-ray. Let's get that history written before we forget. 100 years from now when this version is a revered classic they'll want to know about the first public showing. We owe it to future generations.
>
> http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38419
>

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Love these! Especially the Zaius Ad and the POTA Marquee!!!

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:04 PM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

[Attachment(s) from James included below]

From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:38 PM
Subject: planet goodies

dear group, here are some neat planet items. from william

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

Attachments :

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The Ape Fairy gave me a preview of "Simian Scrolls" # 17 and it's another picture-packed ape-stravaganza. With POTA on the "Rise" there's plenty of new stuff to talk about, so there's interviews with BOOM!'s Darryl Gregory on the monthly comic (nicely illustrated with rarities) and Corrina Bechko & Gabriel Hardman, speaking no evil about their miniseries(es) "Betrayal" and "Exile". They of course will soon start their own monthly but they haven't talked about that (yet). An interesting factoid is that the orangutan Maurice in "Rise" is based on Bruno at the L.A. Zoo. Corrina has worked at the L.A. Zoo and knew Bruno personally. She gives her review of the performance. They also talk with Jeff Parker about BOOM!'s upcoming POTA annual in August. And there's a review of the "Rise" soundtrack to boot.
For the traditionalists there's an article about Mark Lenard by his daughter Catherine (part of an upcoming book?) as well as checking in with actors from "Battle" and the TV show (I have to leave some surprises). For the materialists there's articles about collecting Megos and Marvel POTA cover art (but you better hurry, there's a guy, literally a Guy, that's his last name, who already has almost half of them). And there's no rivalry as "Scrolls" celebrates 20 years of "Ape Chronicles", the first Apezine (did I coin a phrase? I'll have to have my lawyers look into that). A well-rounded package with the usual rare stuff that forces you to pick your eyeballs up off the floor and continue reading. Those who are familiar with "Simian Scrolls" know what I'm talking about. Those that don't, it's time to become familiar with it. If not, what, are you STOOOOPID?!
Congrats once again to the "Simian Scrolls" team and their contributors. Another delight.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

The Ape Fairy gave me a preview of "Simian Scrolls" # 17 and it's another picture-packed ape-stravaganza. With POTA on the "Rise" there's plenty of new stuff to talk about, so there's interviews with BOOM!'s Darryl Gregory on the monthly comic (nicely illustrated with rarities) and Corrina Bechko & Gabriel Hardman, speaking no evil about their miniseries(es) "Betrayal" and "Exile". They of course will soon start their own monthly but they haven't talked about that (yet). An interesting factoid is that the orangutan Maurice in "Rise" is based on Bruno at the L.A. Zoo. Corrina has worked at the L.A. Zoo and knew Bruno personally. She gives her review of the performance. They also talk with Jeff Parker about BOOM!'s upcoming POTA annual in August. And there's a review of the "Rise" soundtrack to boot.
For the traditionalists there's an article about Mark Lenard by his daughter Catherine (part of an upcoming book?) as well as checking in with actors from "Battle" and the TV show (I have to leave some surprises). For the materialists there's articles about collecting Megos and Marvel POTA cover art (but you better hurry, there's a guy, literally a Guy, that's his last name, who already has almost half of them). And there's no rivalry as "Scrolls" celebrates 20 years of "Ape Chronicles", the first Apezine (did I coin a phrase? I'll have to have my lawyers look into that). A well-rounded package with the usual rare stuff that forces you to pick your eyeballs up off the floor and continue reading. Those who are familiar with "Simian Scrolls" know what I'm talking about. Those that don't, it's time to become familiar with it. If not, what, are you STOOOOPID?!
Congrats once again to the "Simian Scrolls" team and their contributors. Another delight.

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

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Who're you callin' a fairy??!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The Ape Fairy gave me a preview of "Simian Scrolls" # 17 and it's another picture-packed ape-stravaganza. With POTA on the "Rise" there's plenty of new stuff to talk about, so there's interviews with BOOM!'s Darryl Gregory on the monthly comic (nicely illustrated with rarities) and Corrina Bechko & Gabriel Hardman, speaking no evil about their miniseries(es) "Betrayal" and "Exile". They of course will soon start their own monthly but they haven't talked about that (yet). An interesting factoid is that the orangutan Maurice in "Rise" is based on Bruno at the L.A. Zoo. Corrina has worked at the L.A. Zoo and knew Bruno personally. She gives her review of the performance. They also talk with Jeff Parker about BOOM!'s upcoming POTA annual in August. And there's a review of the "Rise" soundtrack to boot.
> For the traditionalists there's an article about Mark Lenard by his daughter Catherine (part of an upcoming book?) as well as checking in with actors from "Battle" and the TV show (I have to leave some surprises). For the materialists there's articles about collecting Megos and Marvel POTA cover art (but you better hurry, there's a guy, literally a Guy, that's his last name, who already has almost half of them). And there's no rivalry as "Scrolls" celebrates 20 years of "Ape Chronicles", the first Apezine (did I coin a phrase? I'll have to have my lawyers look into that). A well-rounded package with the usual rare stuff that forces you to pick your eyeballs up off the floor and continue reading. Those who are familiar with "Simian Scrolls" know what I'm talking about. Those that don't, it's time to become familiar with it. If not, what, are you STOOOOPID?!
> Congrats once again to the "Simian Scrolls" team and their contributors. Another delight.
>

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Me too!
Love Scrolls!

On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:52 AM, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:

Please keep me on the mailing list for this one.

Rob R

---

To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: johnroche49@...
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:42:22 +0000
Subject: [pota] Re: another ape-tastic "Simian Scrolls"

Who're you callin' a fairy??!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The Ape Fairy gave me a preview of "Simian Scrolls" # 17 and it's another picture-packed ape-stravaganza. With POTA on the "Rise" there's plenty of new stuff to talk about, so there's interviews with BOOM!'s Darryl Gregory on the monthly comic (nicely illustrated with rarities) and Corrina Bechko & Gabriel Hardman, speaking no evil about their miniseries(es) "Betrayal" and "Exile". They of course will soon start their own monthly but they haven't talked about that (yet). An interesting factoid is that the orangutan Maurice in "Rise" is based on Bruno at the L.A. Zoo. Corrina has worked at the L.A. Zoo and knew Bruno personally. She gives her review of the performance. They also talk with Jeff Parker about BOOM!'s upcoming POTA annual in August. And there's a review of the "Rise" soundtrack to boot.
> For the traditionalists there's an article about Mark Lenard by his daughter Catherine (part of an upcoming book?) as well as checking in with actors from "Battle" and the TV show (I have to leave some surprises). For the materialists there's articles about collecting Megos and Marvel POTA cover art (but you better hurry, there's a guy, literally a Guy, that's his last name, who already has almost half of them). And there's no rivalry as "Scrolls" celebrates 20 years of "Ape Chronicles", the first Apezine (did I coin a phrase? I'll have to have my lawyers look into that). A well-rounded package with the usual rare stuff that forces you to pick your eyeballs up off the floor and continue reading. Those who are familiar with "Simian Scrolls" know what I'm talking about. Those that don't, it's time to become familiar with it. If not, what, are you STOOOOPID?!
> Congrats once again to the "Simian Scrolls" team and their contributors. Another delight.
>

--

Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/

The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at

http://brokensea.com/pota/
http://brokensea.com/bpota/

and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/