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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
>
> This takes the edge off of the world blowing up in "Beneath" since Earth wouldn't have been livable for very long with no moon anyway. It actually gives "Beneath" a happy ending because everyone goes quickly and doesn't have to suffer a slow end. I never thought "Beneath" would be "the feel good movie" of 1970.
>
>
>
>
>
> How do you know that the earth wouldn't be livable for very long if the moon blew up? I believe that although it wouldn't be very pleasant for a very long time, especially if there was a massive bombardment of debris, life on earth would still go on. Most of the large mammals, including men and apes, unless they could find a deep enough hole to hide in, would probably go extinct, but life in the deep oceans would still be there, and evolution would continue and for many millions of years yet. And if the moon blew up in such a way that most of the debris shot out into space and then formed a ring of debris around the earth, then that could explain the "strange luminosity at night."
>
> Also, at the end of BENEATH, the earth doesn't blow up -- it's atmosphere explodes, but the planet goes on, and probably with most of its oceans still intact. What the future of such a world would be, I don't know, but with the oceans still there, there's a chance that over time the atmosphere could probably make a come back, though by then our star would have shrunk to a white dwarf.
>

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That's a great find Hunter. Thanks to you and E. Francis for sharing.

Interesting that they included the Alpha-Omega bomb scenes that had been cut out of the film.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks to E. Francis Kohler, I've just added scans of the September 27,
> 1973, issue of /Scholastic Scope/ magazine to my Apes site. It features
> a shot from /Battle/ on the cover and has an article about /Battle/.
>
> <https://pota.goatley.com/mags.htmlgt;
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> --
> Hunter
> ------
> Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/
> goathunter@... http://hunter.goatley.com/
>

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We are saddened to hear the news of the death of Richard Zanuck. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/07/13/richard-zanuck-dead/

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> This is a sad day for POTA fans. Richard Zanuck has died. He's the studio exec who greenlighted the original POTA when no one else would. And he produced POTA2001, the start of a long relationship with Tim Burton. He was the husband of Linda Harrison and probably the reason she played Nova. Beyond that, he produced "Jaws", one of my favorite movies.
> I will say he seemed to have a lot of ego during the time of POTA2001. He acted like he made it possible and downplayed Arthur Jacobs' almost twisting his arm to make it. POTA2001 showed he didn't really "get it". But that's not what we're here to dwell on. Nobody "got it" in the mid-'60's but Zanuck took a chance on POTA. He's also credited with the end of "Beneath". There's no two ways about it, Richard Zanuck and POTA are linked forever. And whatever the history, he seemed like a good guy who loved movies and did his part to bring them to us.
>
> R.I.P.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> This is a sad day for POTA fans. Richard Zanuck has died. He's the studio exec who greenlighted the original POTA when no one else would. And he produced POTA2001, the start of a long relationship with Tim Burton. He was the husband of Linda Harrison and probably the reason she played Nova. Beyond that, he produced "Jaws", one of my favorite movies.
> I will say he seemed to have a lot of ego during the time of POTA2001. He acted like he made it possible and downplayed Arthur Jacobs' almost twisting his arm to make it. POTA2001 showed he didn't really "get it". But that's not what we're here to dwell on. Nobody "got it" in the mid-'60's but Zanuck took a chance on POTA. He's also credited with the end of "Beneath". There's no two ways about it, Richard Zanuck and POTA are linked forever. And whatever the history, he seemed like a good guy who loved movies and did his part to bring them to us.
>
> R.I.P.
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> This is a sad day for POTA fans. Richard Zanuck has died. He's the studio exec who greenlighted the original POTA when no one else would. And he produced POTA2001, the start of a long relationship with Tim Burton. He was the husband of Linda Harrison and probably the reason she played Nova. Beyond that, he produced "Jaws", one of my favorite movies.
> I will say he seemed to have a lot of ego during the time of POTA2001. He acted like he made it possible and downplayed Arthur Jacobs' almost twisting his arm to make it. POTA2001 showed he didn't really "get it". But that's not what we're here to dwell on. Nobody "got it" in the mid-'60's but Zanuck took a chance on POTA. He's also credited with the end of "Beneath". There's no two ways about it, Richard Zanuck and POTA are linked forever. And whatever the history, he seemed like a good guy who loved movies and did his part to bring them to us.
>
> R.I.P.
>

I heard about it on the CBS Evening News last night.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> How come I'm only just hearing about this? It's not making national news?
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> This is a sad day for POTA fans. Richard Zanuck has died. He's the studio exec who greenlighted the original POTA when no one else would. And he produced POTA2001, the start of a long relationship with Tim Burton. He was the husband of Linda Harrison and probably the reason she played Nova. Beyond that, he produced "Jaws", one of my favorite movies.
> I will say he seemed to have a lot of ego during the time of POTA2001. He acted like he made it possible and downplayed Arthur Jacobs' almost twisting his arm to make it. POTA2001 showed he didn't really "get it". But that's not what we're here to dwell on. Nobody "got it" in the mid-'60's but Zanuck took a chance on POTA. He's also credited with the end of "Beneath". There's no two ways about it, Richard Zanuck and POTA are linked forever. And whatever the history, he seemed like a good guy who loved movies and did his part to bring them to us.
>
> R.I.P.
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
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>
> Profitability is a slippery slope. Blair Witch was very profitable too.
> Patton had to have a big budget. M*A*S*H only needed a couple
> of old choppers, jeeps and a few tents. That's chump change
> in Hollywood. The actors cost more. But on the TV show,
> Wayne Rodger walked because he was making more in
> real estate than he was on the show. For Beneath the
> location was already built and paid for. Same set as
> M*A*S*H too. It's a shame they tore it down with
> about as much thought as striking those tents.
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/15/2012 11:41:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> But if you think that's something listen to this about the most profitable
> picture for Fox in 1970, M*A*S*H. It needed to only make $6,550,000 in
> rentals to breakeven. It made $31,225,000 in rentals or 476.7% of what was
> needed to breakeven. Amazing! It did better than PATTON
>

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Very good Ron! Thanks for sharing.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "RonHatter" <gentlegiant783@...> wrote:
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> http://youtu.be/aMKbX1PetII
>

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To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Internal Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• Marvel Archive
- Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies.
• Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
• Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
• The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel.
• The Mendez Dynasty - Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
• POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> It's a dark day for movies. R.I.P. to the movie fans who lost their lives last night in Colorado.
>
> Meanwhile, it looks like POTA and "Jurassic Park" might go for Round 2 in 2014. The "Jurassic" producer sez they are hoping to put a new dinosaur epic in theaters in two years, which would be 2014 (presumably summer, also earmarked for "Dawn of the POTA"). And it looks like "Jurassic" and "Apes" will even share the same writers.
> http://collider.com/jurassic-park-4-sequel-frank-marshall/182397/
> POTA2001 and "Jurassic Park 3" came out a week apart in July 2001 and it was almost a photo finish at the box office. "Jurassic" made $369 million around the world and POTA $362 million.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Profitability is a slippery slope. Blair Witch was very profitable too.
> Patton had to have a big budget. M*A*S*H only needed a couple
> of old choppers, jeeps and a few tents. That's chump change
> in Hollywood. The actors cost more. But on the TV show,
> Wayne Rodger walked because he was making more in
> real estate than he was on the show. For Beneath the
> location was already built and paid for. Same set as
> M*A*S*H too. It's a shame they tore it down with
> about as much thought as striking those tents.
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/15/2012 11:41:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> But if you think that's something listen to this about the most profitable
> picture for Fox in 1970, M*A*S*H. It needed to only make $6,550,000 in
> rentals to breakeven. It made $31,225,000 in rentals or 476.7% of what was
> needed to breakeven. Amazing! It did better than PATTON
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I think he's referring to Ape City from the first film still being up. They used some of it (the arena) for the TV show too. They also redressed a "Hello, Dolly" set for the underground home of the mutants.
>
>
>
>
> They redressed two HELLO DOLLY! sets, a restaurant became the cathedral, and an early Grand Central Station became a two-thousand-year-old ruin of the same, and they still had the "Ape Town" (as Fox called it) standing at the ranch, and I believe the underground tunnel was redressed from a "sewer pipe" set from the "Land of the Giants" TV show. That same "pipe" would be redressed again for CONQUEST and finally for THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE, where it was stood on its end and became the "air shaft" that Roddy McDowall's character died in.
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> "Dawn" will continue the story of Caesar, so it's a sequel. I would think the director would want to do a movie set farther in the future so maybe the third one will be be a century or so on.
> I'd like to see some leather too, and I'm not talking POTA. Hurt me!
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:34 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] DATING DAWN
>
>
>
> Will DAWN be a straight sequel, do we think? If we're going to get to 3955 (give or take a decade or two), the next film, if it's a trilogy, really needs to push us on a thousand years or so.I'd like to see Apes on horses and some leather.John, Scrolls.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Will DAWN be a straight sequel, do we think? If we're going to get to 3955 (give or take a decade or two), the next film, if it's a trilogy, really needs to push us on a thousand years or so.I'd like to see Apes on horses and some leather.John, Scrolls.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> By coincidence, I use to date a Dawn Rabinowitz in high school. ;-)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > Will DAWN be a straight sequel, do we think? If we're going to get to
> 3955 (give or take a decade or two), the next film, if it's a trilogy,
> really needs to push us on a thousand years or so.I'd like to see Apes
> on horses and some leather.John, Scrolls.
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> It's a big day for BOOM!'s POTA comics: Their POTA # 16 (reportedly the last monthly for that title before "POTA: Cataclysm" takes it's place) and "Exile on the POTA" # 4 (the end of that miniseries before it's authors start their monthly "Cataclysm").
> Both hit the racks today.
>