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On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 11:41 AM, zasco1957@... <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

Fourteen years, that's fantastic...please let it go on for another fourteen...and congratulations! Zach -------Original Message------- From: jamesa1102 Date: 8/31/2012 6:23:58 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Group Anniversary/The Ape It's our birthday! 14 years ago today Dave Pasco started this little group for his fellow POTA fans and look how we've grown. To celebrate, a new pdf has been uploaded to the files section: Castle of Frankenstein Issue 23. And since it is Friday, the new issue of THE APE is now online too. To access CoF 23, use this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CastleOfFrankenstein23.pdf. To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm. Have a great weekend! Visit all the Group's special features including: The Internal Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more. Marvel Archive - Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies. Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius. Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil. The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. The Mendez Dynasty - Keepers of the Divine Bomb. POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot. The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members. The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.

--
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Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
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And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/ <http://www.brokensea.net/>
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at
http://brokensea.com/pota/
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and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio
OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/

That's very funny!

Zach




-------Original Message-------

From: Haristas@...
Date: 9/1/2012 1:05:03 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Least Favorite Scenes




Maybe chocolate is different in the future!

It's mutant chocolate. You see, after the bombs dropped there was a bucket
of M&Ms that Chris Christie was eating in the Governor's Office in New
Jersey, near where Ape City would rise centuries later, and the fallout made
those M&Ms grow into mutant coco plants.

Ironic that Ben Affleck's character is named Mendez. ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Like I said in a previous post, yesterday at the Telluride Film Festival the movie "Argo" was sneaked. It's about Hollywood trying to free the Iranian hostages in 1979 and John Goodman plays John Chambers. According to this review, the idea for the plan was hatched while watching "Battle for the POTA" (at least in the movie; I don't know if that was actually the case). That makes two movies this year that "Battle" gets a cameo in (the other being the Paul Williams doc "Still Alive"). "Battle" has always been the poor stepchild of the POTA movies but maybe it's time has come.
>
> http://www.hitfix.com/awards-campaign/review-ben-afflecks-argo-expertly-entertains-and-educates
>

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Do we know who the Ape folk are--are they APEMANIA? I love seeing Apes properly represented at events like this----keep the faith guys!!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> This weekend is DragonCon in Atlanta and it was groovy to see two of my sci-fi faves back to back marching in the parade, "Battlestar Galactica" (21st Century edition) and POTA. So say we all!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyAUWU3Qa5Y
>

Has anybody had their Caesar action figure yet? I've heard nothing and I think it was due in July? John, Scrolls.

No, I think they're Atlantaians.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 7:41 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: POTA in DragonCon parade



Do we know who the Ape folk are--are they APEMANIA? I love seeing Apes properly represented at events like this----keep the faith guys!!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> This weekend is DragonCon in Atlanta and it was groovy to see two of my sci-fi faves back to back marching in the parade, "Battlestar Galactica" (21st Century edition) and POTA. So say we all!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyAUWU3Qa5Y
>

I thought he was going to make it after his heart attack back on July 13th, but the man who played Attar (and got an Oscar nom for "The Green Mile") is dead. Say what you will about POTA2001, but Duncan was a POTA fan and was thrilled to get the role. I am literally surrounded by Mr. Duncan thanks to all the representations made of Attar (action figures, busts, etc.). He definitely made his mark in entertainment and will be missed.

http://collider.com/michael-clarke-duncan-passes-away/193007/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Ia8lym9DM

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Michael Clark Duncan (Attar from POTA 2001) passes away at age 54:

http://www.chron.com/entertainment/article/Actor-Michael-Clarke-Duncan-dead-at-54-3836635.php

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>
> I thought he was going to make it after his heart attack back on July 13th, but the man who played Attar (and got an Oscar nom for "The Green Mile") is dead. Say what you will about POTA2001, but Duncan was a POTA fan and was thrilled to get the role. I am literally surrounded by Mr. Duncan thanks to all the representations made of Attar (action figures, busts, etc.). He definitely made his mark in entertainment and will be missed.
>
> http://collider.com/michael-clarke-duncan-passes-away/193007/
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Ia8lym9DM
>

Very sad new. You can see the enthusiasm he had for PotA when you watch him in the DVD extras for PotA2001. Good character actor who'll certainly be missed.


Graham

thats a damn shame, I always liked Michael Clarke Duncan, and although I don't care much for the Apes film he was in, I thought he was great in the movie, he wasn't given much to work with, but his presence onscreen was priceless. He's gone, but he won't be forgotten

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gort65" <gort65@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > I thought he was going to make it after his heart attack back on July 13th, but the man who played Attar (and got an Oscar nom for "The Green Mile") is dead. Say what you will about POTA2001, but Duncan was a POTA fan and was thrilled to get the role. I am literally surrounded by Mr. Duncan thanks to all the representations made of Attar (action figures, busts, etc.). He definitely made his mark in entertainment and will be missed.
> >
> > http://collider.com/michael-clarke-duncan-passes-away/193007/
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Ia8lym9DM
> >
>
> Very sad new. You can see the enthusiasm he had for PotA when you watch him in the DVD extras for PotA2001. Good character actor who'll certainly be missed.
>
>
> Graham
>

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I'm sorry to learn about the passing of Mr. Duncan. I'll admit I wasn't a
fan of the 2001 APES, but I agree with you, Jeff, on how he made a mark in
entertainment...not just APES but "The Green Mile", among others...in any
case, my condolences go to his family.

Zach




-------Original Message-------

From: Jeff K.
Date: 9/3/2012 6:57:30 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] R.I.P. Michael Clarke Duncan


I thought he was going to make it after his heart attack back on July 13th,
but the man who played Attar (and got an Oscar nom for "The Green Mile") is
dead. Say what you will about POTA2001, but Duncan was a POTA fan and was
thrilled to get the role. I am literally surrounded by Mr. Duncan thanks to
all the representations made of Attar (action figures, busts, etc.). He
definitely made his mark in entertainment and will be missed.

http://collider.com/michael-clarke-duncan-passes-away/193007/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Ia8lym9DM

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From: BOOM! Studios <contact@...>
Date: September 4, 2012 7:56:10 PM EDT
To: <apefan23@...>
Subject: Don't  the BOOM! Studios PLANET OF THE APES: CATACLYSM RELEASE PARTY @ MELTDOWN COMICS!
Reply-To: BOOM! Studios <contact@...>

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I'm 'bowing my head' in sadness.Michael's 'Green Mile' was just magnificent.His Attar was a highlight of the 2001 movie.He made a cool Kingpin, too.Peace and happiness, big man.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I thought he was going to make it after his heart attack back on July 13th, but the man who played Attar (and got an Oscar nom for "The Green Mile") is dead. Say what you will about POTA2001, but Duncan was a POTA fan and was thrilled to get the role. I am literally surrounded by Mr. Duncan thanks to all the representations made of Attar (action figures, busts, etc.). He definitely made his mark in entertainment and will be missed.
>
> http://collider.com/michael-clarke-duncan-passes-away/193007/
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Ia8lym9DM
>

Anybody going to the BOOM! Cataclysm launch party at meltdown today? If so, get pictures!!! John, Scrolls.

Does anybody have 'Planet of the Apes...A Musical Trip' by Electric Cowboy, 1974, TPI Records? John, Scrolls.

https://pota.goatley.com/musical/

Dave

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Does anybody have 'Planet of the Apes...A Musical Trip' by Electric Cowboy, 1974, TPI Records? John, Scrolls.
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Not really news or a surprise but time travel won't figure in 'Dawn'

<http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=66717>

Dave

Wow--that looks like a quality product.I'll savour this by not downloading it all at once, preserving the joy of a steady cascade of monkey music madness.Of course, the greatest Apes music lyric ever was crafted by Duran Duran on their legendary 'Notorious' single---'Don't monkey with my business'.Deep man, deep.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/musical/
>
> Dave
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anybody have 'Planet of the Apes...A Musical Trip' by Electric Cowboy, 1974, TPI Records? John, Scrolls.
> >
>

I try to be big about these things, but I can't, so I have to say I'm insanely jealous of you and hate you.
I'm thrilled that the Apes comics have a solid future---the 'package' with BOOM! has been consistently quality, even if not everyone loves some of the storylines.It is great to hear that the Sully Saga will be re-visited.
What does a 'Planet of the Apes' taste like?---Grape Juice Plus?Last time Ballard had one of those he woke up with his underpants the wrong way around.True story.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I went to the "POTA: Cataclysm" launch tonight at Meltdown Comics (reportedly Robin Williams' fave comic book shop). Not much of people buying comic books but lots of munchies and especially booze. They even made a drink called Planet of the Apes.
>
> http://www.kindredcocktails.com/cocktail/planet-of-the-apes
>
> And they had banana chips, beer, sodas, etc. Gabriel Hardman and Corinna Bechko were there signing, as well as some of the behind-the-scenes folks (pics at Boom's twitter). Gabriel got there from Fox, where he is storyboarding a certain movie we are interested in, but his lips were sealed.
> I was told BOOM! and Fox are happy with how things are going so it looks like we'll have POTA comics for years to come (BOOM! has a 4 or 5 year license and we're only about a year & 1/2 in). "Cataclysm" has been outlined for a year so it will be around at least that long. Gabriel has a heavy workload, especially with his creator-owned comics, so he will not be doing any interior POTA art ("Betrayal" scratched the itch).
> I talked to them about the moon blowing up. Corinna is the researcher of the team. We don't know what would happen if the moon were gone but her research indicated things could continue on for 1,000 years. Gabriel said the weird topography of the POTA could play into the idea of the moon being gone (such as the Forbidden Zone). I told Corinna some fans (like me) weren't thrilled with the moon being blown up and she basically said that's fine, debates are welcome.
> They haven't officially announced it but Darryl Gregory's POTA comic will conclude with 3 "oversized" comic issues. So that's my exclusive scoop. Alex Ross is only doing covers for the first 4 issues of "Cataclysm" but they confirmed he's a POTA fan. I guess that's all I have to report. I forgot to ask about the "Terror" reprints. It felt more like a company party than a signing. There were only about 3 others besides me who actually bought comics. But it was fun meeting the BOOM! team.
>

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I can't see how it could.  The only ship went to Mars. Not much more Relativity to deal with there than a GPS satellite has to deal with on a daily basis. But the fact that it was out of touch with Earth could make for some surprises. But a lot can change between now and the Summer of 2014.  We'll see...

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/6/2012 4:45:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, smugster2000@... writes:

Not really news or a surprise but time travel won't figure in 'Dawn'

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Using Derek Zane's designs, but allowing for height, I've just got back from 2017 where, I'm delighted to report, EMPIRE OF THE POTA, the third in the smash Apes trilogy, in suround sense holo-vision, concludes (SPOILER) with Taylor landing in an inland sea,with a welcoming party including Zira offering him chocolate.It's not ALL good news, however--Romney was in his second term.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> Not really news or a surprise but time travel won't figure in 'Dawn'
>
> <http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=66717>
>
> Dave
>

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The rum taste comes through too much (unless you like rum) but I guess you could substitute your fave. I don't remember any connection between rum and POTA.
Gabriel and Corinna read Simian Scrolls on line but they'd love a print copy so I said I'd mention it.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 2:23 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: partying with BOOM!



I try to be big about these things, but I can't, so I have to say I'm insanely jealous of you and hate you.
I'm thrilled that the Apes comics have a solid future---the 'package' with BOOM! has been consistently quality, even if not everyone loves some of the storylines.It is great to hear that the Sully Saga will be re-visited.
What does a 'Planet of the Apes' taste like?---Grape Juice Plus?Last time Ballard had one of those he woke up with his underpants the wrong way around.True story.John, Scrolls.

I dont think its out of the series just out of "Dawn". Its to early to have any landings and astronauts and if and when they do appear im sure that seen will be the final scene in the series and then the circle is complete unless they go for adventures with the Apes and astronauts and continue with a few more movies after the promised three. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
> I can't see how it could. The only ship went to Mars. Not much more
> Relativity to deal with there than a GPS satellite has to deal with on a daily
> basis. But the fact that it was out of touch with Earth could make for some
> surprises. But a lot can change between now and the Summer of 2014. We'll
> see...
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/6/2012 4:45:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> smugster2000@... writes:
>
> Not really news or a surprise but time travel won't figure in 'Dawn'
>

After a few months off, Ape Central, the site started by Ed Gross ("POTA Revisited"), is back with new POTArticles. He's looking for contributers to talk BOOM! comics, etc. It's a fun POTA pit stop so welcome back!

http://www.apecentral.net/

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>
> I don't remember any connection between rum and POTA.

S'obvious... Rum - Capt Jack Sparrow - J Depp - T Burton - Apes.

> From: johnroche49

>> Grape Juice Plus?Last time Ballard had one of those he woke up with his underpants the wrong way around. True story.

Last time Roche had one he woke up with someone else's underpants the wrong way around!(slightly true).

Dave

I shall elevate myself above Ballard's childishness, other than to point out that MY pants don't have little duckies on.I've always assumed Garshan treated Alaric and Co to rum in FHC 3, so there's the big rum connection, right there.Sort of.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > I don't remember any connection between rum and POTA.
>
> S'obvious... Rum - Capt Jack Sparrow - J Depp - T Burton - Apes.
>
>
> > From: johnroche49
>
> >> Grape Juice Plus?Last time Ballard had one of those he woke up with his underpants the wrong way around. True story.
>
> Last time Roche had one he woke up with someone else's underpants the wrong way around!(slightly true).
>
> Dave
>

Good morning! This week's issue of THE APE is now available.

To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Internal Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• Marvel Archive
- Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies.

Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius. Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil. The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. The Mendez Dynasty - Keepers of the Divine Bomb. POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot. The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members. The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.

The spoof cinema posters on Ed's site are worth the effort alone! The Brokeback Mountain one is the role Roddy was born to play!! I love the BOOM! preview pages---is it wrong that I kind have the hots for Zaius' daughter? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> After a few months off, Ape Central, the site started by Ed Gross ("POTA Revisited"), is back with new POTArticles. He's looking for contributers to talk BOOM! comics, etc. It's a fun POTA pit stop so welcome back!
>
> http://www.apecentral.net/
>

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Can we keep the politics out,please? not everyone shares the same views and I find it better to stay on topic.

Mel

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Using Derek Zane's designs, but allowing for height, I've just got back from 2017 where, I'm delighted to report, EMPIRE OF THE POTA, the third in the smash Apes trilogy, in suround sense holo-vision, concludes (SPOILER) with Taylor landing in an inland sea,with a welcoming party including Zira offering him chocolate.It's not ALL good news, however--Romney was in his second term.John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >
> > Not really news or a surprise but time travel won't figure in 'Dawn'
> >
> > <http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=66717>
> >
> > Dave
> >
>

I planted the seed in actress Katee Sackhoff! She's co-hosting a movie podcast for a few weeks and I told her she should be in the next POTA movie since her "Battlestar Galactica" character was dubbed the Harbinger of Death as a nod to POTA (which she didn't know). Hilarity ensued. No it didn't, but those so inclined can listen or watch the antics at the link below (you can skip to around the 49 minute mark).
Now we just have to enlist Jackie Earle Haley. That duo would be great at trying to foil ape dominance. I just know it.

http://toadhopnetwork.com/f/Schmoes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpSa9MR769w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izH9xUK9azI

Apes is all about Politics, so relax and enjoy, Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "knightangel314" <chimel23@...> wrote:
>
>
> Can we keep the politics out,please? not everyone shares the same views and I find it better to stay on topic.
>
> Mel

Can we keep the smutty innuendo, fun and jokes out, please.not everyone shares the same views and I find it better to stay on topic.
Wouldn't it be cool to have some sort of cameo by Ron or Booth in DAWN? And yes, Jackie would make an awesome human antagonist.
Who is Katee Sackhoff (so long as it's on topic)? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I planted the seed in actress Katee Sackhoff! She's co-hosting a movie podcast for a few weeks and I told her she should be in the next POTA movie since her "Battlestar Galactica" character was dubbed the Harbinger of Death as a nod to POTA (which she didn't know). Hilarity ensued. No it didn't, but those so inclined can listen or watch the antics at the link below (you can skip to around the 49 minute mark).
> Now we just have to enlist Jackie Earle Haley. That duo would be great at trying to foil ape dominance. I just know it.
>
> http://toadhopnetwork.com/f/Schmoes
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpSa9MR769w
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izH9xUK9azI
>

The Planet of the Apes films are political films. There is no doubt about that. Any discussion of the political nature and commentary of the POTA films is always welcome.

However, partisan comments about current elections and political figures have nothing to do with POTA. Therefore, they are off topic and don't belong. If anyone wants to discuss the current election or candidates, there are several very good groups and forums where you can do that. But this is not one of those places.

Thank you!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> Apes is all about Politics, so relax and enjoy, Take care, John M.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "knightangel314" chimel23@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Can we keep the politics out,please? not everyone shares the same views and I find it better to stay on topic.
> >
> > Mel
>

Katee Sackhoff was in the recent Battlestar Galactica TV series. She was also on 24 for a while. She's an OK television actress but I don't think she's ever done any film work other than bit parts.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Who is Katee Sackhoff (so long as it's on topic)? John, Scrolls.
>

Who is Katee Sackhoff? Did I just dream I put those links in there?


From: johnroche49
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 1:59 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: planting the seed



Can we keep the smutty innuendo, fun and jokes out, please.not everyone shares the same views and I find it better to stay on topic.
Wouldn't it be cool to have some sort of cameo by Ron or Booth in DAWN? And yes, Jackie would make an awesome human antagonist.
Who is Katee Sackhoff (so long as it's on topic)? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I planted the seed in actress Katee Sackhoff! She's co-hosting a movie podcast for a few weeks and I told her she should be in the next POTA movie since her "Battlestar Galactica" character was dubbed the Harbinger of Death as a nod to POTA (which she didn't know). Hilarity ensued. No it didn't, but those so inclined can listen or watch the antics at the link below (you can skip to around the 49 minute mark).
> Now we just have to enlist Jackie Earle Haley. That duo would be great at trying to foil ape dominance. I just know it.
>
> http://toadhopnetwork.com/f/Schmoes
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpSa9MR769w
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izH9xUK9azI
>

I'd say by their very nature that the POTA films are liberal, showing the world overtaken by apes and showing where they are coming from. That said, some see Dr. Zauis as the hero in a conservative vein.
Some don't see any commentary in POTA. I don't know how but they do. That's fine. For me the commentary (and the hard edge of it, different than, say, "Star Trek") is what recommends it. The older I get, the more POTA resonates.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:08 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Time travel out






The Planet of the Apes films are political films. There is no doubt about that. Any discussion of the political nature and commentary of the POTA films is always welcome.


Are the POTA movies more liberal in their outlook or conservative (if we can agree on the definitions of both)? What's your opinion?

ESCAPE and CONQUEST seems to be on the side of liberalism -- In ESCAPE, no one is supposed to be on the side of ultra-conservative Dr. Hasslein, and in CONQUEST, the apes are after nothing less than equal rights -- but at the end of PLANET, Dr. Zaius' conservatism triumphs, and with BENEATH, a very large number of POTA fans love the ultra-right wing extremism of General Ursus, but at the same time are any of those fans against the obvious liberalism of Zira and Cornelius? And, in BATTLE, don't the liberal apes win in the end? Or, do most POTA fans not even think of these aspects of the thing called POTA?

No, she hasn't done much in film. That's the price range Fox likes. She said in some of those podcasts she's gone up for the female leads in "Battleship", "Real Steel" and "Robocop" (which has cast Jackie Earle Haley) but didn't get them. Everybody has to start somewhere. But she is in the new "Riddick" movie starring Vin Diesel. It's a long shot but I think she rocks and I'm rooting for her.
She's currently in the A & E show "Longmire".


From: jamesa1102
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:20 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: planting the seed




Katee Sackhoff was in the recent Battlestar Galactica TV series. She was also on 24 for a while. She's an OK television actress but I don't think she's ever done any film work other than bit parts.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Who is Katee Sackhoff (so long as it's on topic)? John, Scrolls.
>

Here we go again. This site is not as Democratic as some would think. This is why I rarely post anymore. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota-owner@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> The Planet of the Apes films are political films. There is no doubt
> about that. Any discussion of the political nature and commentary of the
> POTA films is always welcome.
>
> However, partisan comments about current elections and political figures
> have nothing to do with POTA. Therefore, they are off topic and don't
> belong. If anyone wants to discuss the current election or candidates,
> there are several very good groups and forums where you can do that. But
> this is not one of those places.
>
> Thank you!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Apes is all about Politics, so relax and enjoy, Take care, John M.
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "knightangel314" chimel23@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Can we keep the politics out,please? not everyone shares the same
> views and I find it better to stay on topic.
> > >
> > > Mel
> >
>

Both you Jeff and Rory are right and im glad that some folks see that any political talk is fine especially in an election year and how power screws with us constantly. Take care both of you, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I'd say by their very nature that the POTA films are liberal, showing the world overtaken by apes and showing where they are coming from. That said, some see Dr. Zauis as the hero in a conservative vein.
> Some don't see any commentary in POTA. I don't know how but they do. That's fine. For me the commentary (and the hard edge of it, different than, say, "Star Trek") is what recommends it. The older I get, the more POTA resonates.
>
>
> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:08 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Time travel out
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The Planet of the Apes films are political films. There is no doubt about that. Any discussion of the political nature and commentary of the POTA films is always welcome.
>
>
> Are the POTA movies more liberal in their outlook or conservative (if we can agree on the definitions of both)? What's your opinion?
>
> ESCAPE and CONQUEST seems to be on the side of liberalism -- In ESCAPE, no one is supposed to be on the side of ultra-conservative Dr. Hasslein, and in CONQUEST, the apes are after nothing less than equal rights -- but at the end of PLANET, Dr. Zaius' conservatism triumphs, and with BENEATH, a very large number of POTA fans love the ultra-right wing extremism of General Ursus, but at the same time are any of those fans against the obvious liberalism of Zira and Cornelius? And, in BATTLE, don't the liberal apes win in the end? Or, do most POTA fans not even think of these aspects of the thing called POTA?
>

I'd love to see Ron and Booth in the movie, but realistically they are out of the game (unless they are cast out of nostalgia). Katee and Jackie are realistic in that they are going for these roles (both were up for the new "Robocop"; Jackie got a role). And if they were cast in "Dawn" they have POTA connections I would silently enjoy.
If you're upset about party poopers, don't take it out on Katee.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Can we keep the smutty innuendo, fun and jokes out, please.not everyone shares the same views and I find it better to stay on topic.
> Wouldn't it be cool to have some sort of cameo by Ron or Booth in DAWN? And yes, Jackie would make an awesome human antagonist.
> Who is Katee Sackhoff (so long as it's on topic)? John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > I planted the seed in actress Katee Sackhoff! She's co-hosting a movie podcast for a few weeks and I told her she should be in the next POTA movie since her "Battlestar Galactica" character was dubbed the Harbinger of Death as a nod to POTA (which she didn't know). Hilarity ensued. No it didn't, but those so inclined can listen or watch the antics at the link below (you can skip to around the 49 minute mark).
> > Now we just have to enlist Jackie Earle Haley. That duo would be great at trying to foil ape dominance. I just know it.
> >
> > http://toadhopnetwork.com/f/Schmoes
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpSa9MR769w
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izH9xUK9azI
> >
>

No this group is not for just Democratic POTA fans nor is it just for Republican POTA fans. It is for all POTA fans regardless of what political party they belong to, regardless of whether they are liberal or conservative or moderate. This group is to celebrate POTA, not to push a partisan political agenda for one political party. And if anyone is so myopic that they have a problem with another POTA fan because they belong to another political party or because the group is a non-partisan site; then maybe it is best that you don't post here anymore.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
>
> Here we go again. This site is not as Democratic as some would think. This is why I rarely post anymore. Take care, John M.
>
>

I found this old email where I actually referred to the "Rise" sequel as "Dawn" long before it was announced as such. Maybe I have ESPN or something!


From: Jeff K.
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:27 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] The Kraik of Dawn



We all know that Jackie Earle "Kraik" Haley should be in "Rise 2". Does anyone object? I didn't think so.
The question is, who should he play? I was thinking one of the human survivors but, wait a minute, hold the phone... what about that ship full of astronauts? What was it, the Icarus? We all know damn well that Taylor didn't go to friggin' Mars so that's out. The only way to do this is those astronauts return and find humanity devastated by the virus. They're like, "What the?". And Kraik, I mean Mr. Haley, is one of the astronauts and he comes upon one of the human survivors, a cameo by Ron Harper. And he's like, "I need a pouch to carry my things in, my half eaten chocolate chip cookie and so forth". But Ron can't help him because he's barely surviving. So Haley fights the apes when he's not making wild, passionate love to Freida Pinto.
There's your sequel right there. Write your congressman. Tell Newt Gingrich you'll vote for him if he makes this happen. It's a Kraik world and POTA's just living in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h29uZn1ME8

I'm still waiting...
I said when Buck is dying in "Rise" he seems to "deflate" into a traditional POTA gorilla. Nobody has bothered to check out that sequence to say whether I'm right or wrong.
So, as punishment, I am starting my Katee Sackhoff diary.

Katee Sackhoff Diary: Day 1.
Still no word whether Katee will be in "Dawn of the POTA".

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I did at the time and really didn't see it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I'm still waiting...
> I said when Buck is dying in "Rise" he seems to "deflate" into a traditional POTA gorilla. Nobody has bothered to check out that sequence to say whether I'm right or wrong.
> So, as punishment, I am starting my Katee Sackhoff diary.
>
> Katee Sackhoff Diary: Day 1.
> Still no word whether Katee will be in "Dawn of the POTA".
>

Great podcast interview with Ron Harper. He talks about all his TV series including POTA. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cultfilmfreak/2012/08/20/ron-harper

 

I don't want to sound harsh, but the ony thing that Buck "Deflated" into, is a Dead Buck!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I'm still waiting...
> I said when Buck is dying in "Rise" he seems to "deflate" into a traditional POTA gorilla. Nobody has bothered to check out that sequence to say whether I'm right or wrong.
> So, as punishment, I am starting my Katee Sackhoff diary.
>
> Katee Sackhoff Diary: Day 1.
> Still no word whether Katee will be in "Dawn of the POTA".
>

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>>Beneath: When Nova dies. I felt so sorry for her--like Taylor, all

she
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Wasn't this an old (and bad) fanfic idea? There were two Alpha Omega
bombs, and one was stored/tested on the Moon, and ultimately that
accounted for the "That strange luminosity, yet there's no moon" comment.

I also remember a horrible one which crossed over with Battlestar
Galactica. Ultimately, Baltar's ship ended up being destroyed by the
second bomb- and it was described like he was seeing the destruction in
slow motion. There was also this **painfully** detailed "shock" moment
where people were standing in front of the bomb discussing it, and Taylor
(GASP!!) emerged from the shadows behind it...

Ugh.


Chris L.

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>>I know it's a little late to be posting this (I only just found out

about it), as it happens tomorrow afternoon, but anyone in the LA area check this out:

http://www.cinefami ly.org/films/ the-soundtrack- shelf/ <<
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I am being absolutely honest when I say that the first time I saw Buck's death, his face morphed into the face of Urko from the cover of the 1975 UK hardback annual.Seriously.To me, in that scence, we have a 'classic' gorilla in the end.I was too shy to mention this previously, but now that Jeff has kicked down the doors of self respect, I'm following him through!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "RonHatter" <gentlegiant783@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't want to sound harsh, but the ony thing that Buck "Deflated" into, is a Dead Buck!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm still waiting...
> > I said when Buck is dying in "Rise" he seems to "deflate" into a traditional POTA gorilla. Nobody has bothered to check out that sequence to say whether I'm right or wrong.
> > So, as punishment, I am starting my Katee Sackhoff diary.
> >
> > Katee Sackhoff Diary: Day 1.
> > Still no word whether Katee will be in "Dawn of the POTA".
> >
>

What is this? Can it be taped? And why isn't the UK getting a commentary track on The Avengers? Next thing they'll release an anniversary Apes box set with a glossy book that isn't included in the UK release so I'll have to buy a set I can't play just to get the book.Can't imagine that happening.John, Scrolls.

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Today is the wedding anniversary of POTA comics creators Gabriel Hardman and Corinna Bechko (er, I found out from twitter). If they had never met, the apes might still have their moon. But other than that it's been a good union for Apes fans, and they will carry the brunt (or is it "brent"?) of POTA storytelling during it's 50th anniversary in 2013. Congrats!

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It's hard to believe but it's been 10 years since we lost Kim.

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I've really enjoyed my first read through of CATACLYSM #1.The art by Damian Couceiro is proper comics art that seems strangely suited to Apes and the dense plot rarttles along.BOOM! are really shooting for the Moon on this one! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Today is the wedding anniversary of POTA comics creators Gabriel Hardman and Corinna Bechko (er, I found out from twitter). If they had never met, the apes might still have their moon. But other than that it's been a good union for Apes fans, and they will carry the brunt (or is it "brent"?) of POTA storytelling during it's 50th anniversary in 2013. Congrats!
>

Just pre-ordered my KOBA figure from bigbadtoys.com and it looks as though Caesar is due this month too.Happy Days.John, Scrolls.

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I liked it too. Hardman and Bechko really seem to understand POTA.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I've really enjoyed my first read through of CATACLYSM #1.The art by Damian Couceiro is proper comics art that seems strangely suited to Apes and the dense plot rarttles along.BOOM! are really shooting for the Moon on this one! John, Scrolls.
>
>

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Who's more conservative...Zaius or Taylor?

 

 

In a message dated 9/8/2012 10:12:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

but at the end of PLANET, Dr. Zaius' conservatism triumphs

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The web site should be www.Bigbadtoystore.com and they tell me Caesar is due this month, with Koba later this year.Both look AWESOME! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Just pre-ordered my KOBA figure from bigbadtoys.com and it looks as though Caesar is due this month too.Happy Days.John, Scrolls.
>

CATACLYSM definitely 'feels' like a classic Apes comic, in look and tone,and would not have been out of place as a Marvel saga (no higher praise in my book).It's definitely worth checking out and is worthy of our support as Apes fans.John, Scrolls

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> I liked it too. Hardman and Bechko really seem to understand POTA.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > I've really enjoyed my first read through of CATACLYSM #1.The art by
> Damian Couceiro is proper comics art that seems strangely suited to Apes
> and the dense plot rarttles along.BOOM! are really shooting for the Moon
> on this one! John, Scrolls.
> >
> >
>

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Didn't know Aboro's doc was included! Wanted to see that for ages.JAWS was the first 'proper' film I went to the cinema to see and is still a fond and special experience.Guess I'll have to stump up for yet another JAWS set now!We're all still trying to work out what the UK package is for The Avengers---confusion and cancellations reign!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Today is the 38th anniversary of the POTA TV show. What's significant about the POTA TV show? It got me hooked on POTA. But alas, as we know, it didn't last long. So I moved on to "Jaws". If I had to pick two fictional creations that had the biggest impact on me as a kid, it would have to be those two. And both are dark tales of animals (as opposed to "Lassie" or "Flipper"; "Gentle Ben", remember that?). And both also had the late Richard Zanuck as a key player.
> All of this is a way of saying that the new first "Jaws" blu-ray is in town and it includes the doc "The Shark is Still Working". I KNOW I've posted about this doc in the past. It was made not by the studio, but by a group of dedicated "Jaws" fans who just wanted to tell the story of how "Jaws" conquered the culture. They filmed it in 2005 - 2006, recording "Jaws" participants who are no longer with us, including Percy "Aboro" Rodrigues and now Zanuck. As POTA fans know, Percy has a terrific deep voice and delivery, and that served him well for doing narration for movie trailers (including "The Exorcist", "Jaws" and "Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind", 3 of the biggest movies of the '70's).
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zkYRD51I34
>
> So that's "Jaws", which was almost 40 years ago. It was directed by Steven Spielberg. If you don't know who he is, google him. And check out this new "Jaws" doc. What's Spielberg up to today (literally today)? He's doing a Q & A tonight about his new movie "Lincoln", as well as debut the first trailer for the potential Oscar winner.
>
> http://www.lincolnmoviehangout.com
>
> Who's in "Lincoln"? Is that what you asked? Well, many people, including Jackie Earle Haley as the Vice President of the Confederacy. See, this is the anniversary of the POTA TV show, and like Percy, Jackie was in the show (he played Kraik in "The Legacy") and he's also worked for Spielberg. Chuck Heston can't say that. So what we're saying here is it's a big day for Spielberg, a big day for the POTA TV show, and we all love POTA and "Jaws". And probably that Jackie Earle Haley will be in "Dawn of the POTA" with the Harbinger of Death.
>
> http://blog.mysanantonio.com/jakle06/2009/08/two-icons-bond-rorschach-meets-starbuck/
>

I've been listening to the Greg Wise cds of Boulle's POTA and I wonder was the section about conditioned responses for humans (using bell ringing to generate salivating and whistles and magnetos with electric shocks) the inspiration for Dehn when he dealt with conditioning' in Conquest? It's never really struck me before.The discs are a great way to chill out!( www.audiogo.co.uk). John, Scrolls.

I wouldn't be surprised. Dehn dug the book and it inspired quite a bit (such as the second half of the book being the basis for "Escape").


From: johnroche49
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:03 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] CONDITIONING



I've been listening to the Greg Wise cds of Boulle's POTA and I wonder was the section about conditioned responses for humans (using bell ringing to generate salivating and whistles and magnetos with electric shocks) the inspiration for Dehn when he dealt with conditioning' in Conquest? It's never really struck me before.The discs are a great way to chill out!( www.audiogo.co.uk). John, Scrolls.

You could argue that ESCAPE is the nearest cinematic adaptation of MONKEY PLANET that we'll ever see.The cage scene in ESCAPE is almost lifted directly from Boulle, but, then again, so is the cage scene from PLANET! One slightly disconcerting thing on the audio is that Zira seems, by design, to have an American accent, but I suppose they had o differentiate things.It's a good listen.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't be surprised. Dehn dug the book and it inspired quite a bit (such as the second half of the book being the basis for "Escape").
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:03 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] CONDITIONING
>
>
>
> I've been listening to the Greg Wise cds of Boulle's POTA and I wonder was the section about conditioned responses for humans (using bell ringing to generate salivating and whistles and magnetos with electric shocks) the inspiration for Dehn when he dealt with conditioning' in Conquest? It's never really struck me before.The discs are a great way to chill out!( www.audiogo.co.uk). John, Scrolls.
>

TGIF! The new issue of THE APE is online.

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Big news at 20th Century Fox, home of the POTA franchise. Longtime studio exec Tom Rothman is leaving the studio. Rothman was perhaps the most familiar of the Fox execs for hosting a Fox Movie Channel show and being given the public blame when Fox's movies suck. Rothman was known as a hands on exec (for example it was his idea to have the Golden Gate Bridge in "Rise") and so many movie fans are probably celebrating this. But he seemed to turn things around with stuff like "Rise" and "X-Men: First Class". Fox had a bad summer this year and also allowed one of the big hits to get away, the Mark Wahlberg "Ted" movie from Fox's home grown Seth McFarland.
Rothman's partner in crime Jim Gianopulos will now reportedly run the movie side of things. What does that mean for the in-development "Dawn of the POTA"? Stay tuned.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/tom-rothman-departing-fox-filmed-entertainment/

So what does Tom Rothman's departure mean for 20th Century Fox? Rothman was perhaps the most vilified studio exec in modern times. He reportedly very much placed his stamp on the Fox he oversaw. Things were great if Rothman liked a movie (he championed the Russell Crowe flick "Master and Commander", for example). But if he didn't he could insinuate his influence and rub creatives the wrong way. That's not to say filmmakers are always right or that they don't need practical advice. But Rothman was reportedly oppressive and the proof was often in the pudding with Fox's big movies. The cries of "Fox sucks" could often be heard.
Rothman and Jim Gianopulos ran Fox for over a decade (POTA2001 was their kickoff). It's rare for studio execs to last that long and especially working as a team. But Fox and it's parent News Corp. usually do not have the dramatic turnovers of other companies. They promote from within and their execs grow cobwebs. So probably the big picture at Fox won't change. It's still basically the same people there. But with Rothman gone, there might be a difference in what pictures get made, and more freedom for the filmmakers. Jim Gianopulos is now running the movie division and reportedly he's more filmmaker friendly. Rothman took credit in his buh-bye letter for the top 2 box office movies of all time but reportedly he didn't want to make "Titanic" or "Avatar". Gianopulos was the James Cameron handler (and a good friend of the filmmaker). If control freak Cameron likes Gianopulos then maybe some more interesting ideas will get through now. Gianopulos came up through distribution and is considered a pioneer in what is now big business selling movies internationally. American movies now make lots more in foreign countries than they do in the U.S. and Gianopulos led the charge. But he doesn't seem to be one to tell filmmakers how to make their movies (that was Rothman's job). Probably filmmakers will still be kept on a tight budget leash (one of the tightest of the major studios) because owner Rupert Murdoch still digs profit above all else. But I think Gianopulos will give filmmakers more breathing room and it might result in slightly better movies, especially on the summer "tent pole" level. But Gianopulos has remained in the shadows the last decade while Rothman has been up front, so it remains to be seen exactly what Gianopulos' style is and whether better movies will result.
Here's a good summation of the Rothman era at Fox:

http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/an-era-ends-at-fox-as-tom-rothman-prepares-to-leave-the-studio

Summer 2014 is already getting crowded. The 3rd "Hobbit" movie, "Transformers", "X-Men", "Godzilla", Marvel's "Guardians of the Galaxy" (also maybe "Ant Man"), perhaps a "Jurassic Park". I think POTA could take on "Godzilla". Bring it on!


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:37 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] (OT) Godzilla




Has anyone else noticed that a new Godzilla movie is scheduled to open like a week or so before DAWN in May 2014? No telling at this point if it'll actually happen, but if so, I wouldn't be surprised if Fox pushes DAWN's release into June or beyond.

Also, did you see that soon 20th Century Fox will be known as 20th Century Fox Film? Boy, I wish it wasn't owned by News Corp.

Hi

im from montreal ,Canada ,44 just when recently to the comicon for the first in my ceasar costume and it was an instant hit! I will make a photos folder and upload the pictures for you.

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Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am
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Welcome to the group Mag! And thanks for the pics from comicon, you look great. Everyone can check them out here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/564193000/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

So when did you become a POTA fan? What's your favorite film? My guess is that Caesar is your favorite character.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <magnesium68@...> wrote:
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> Hi
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> im from montreal ,Canada ,44 just when recently to the comicon for the first in my ceasar costume and it was an instant hit! I will make a photos folder and upload the pictures for you.
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> Mag
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Welcome to the best place on the NET- Mag!

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:17 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Welcome to the group Mag! And thanks for the pics from comicon, you look great. Everyone can check them out here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/564193000/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

So when did you become a POTA fan? What's your favorite film? My guess is that Caesar is your favorite character.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <magnesium68@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> im from montreal ,Canada ,44 just when recently to the comicon for the first in my ceasar costume and it was an instant hit! I will make a photos folder and upload the pictures for you.
>
> Mag
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Hello Mag/Bill

Welcome. Were those pics from the Monteal comicon just this past weekend? I was there but only for Saturday. I was keeping an eye out for Nick Armenti another Montrealer that appeared at the Ottawa comiccon as a Gorilla at the beginning of the summer, but did not see him there.

Did not see any apes at all but there were some Ape related aspects to the con. I met with Revolution of the Planet of the Apes editor/writer Ty Templeton and had him do an Ape sketch for me. I then met and bought a print from Leo Leibelman that was used in Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes. I'll upload pics I took.

I'm originally from Montreal myself but now live in Ottawa. But I go back to Montreal often so I hope that I get to meet you in person someday. Especially if you're going somewhere in costume.

Dario

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com
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Hi

im from montreal ,Canada ,44 just when recently to the comicon for the first in my ceasar costume and it was an instant hit! I will make a photos folder and upload the pictures for you.

Mag

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Bad news. Rupert Wyatt will not be directing Dawn of the POTA.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=67429

OK, the idea that they don't have enough time to make "Dawn of the POTA"? I find that hard to believe, Mr. Smart. Three years is the average between sequels and lately they've been pushing it up to two. Plus, supposedly they've got a script they like, so they're ready to go.
So is it something else? Maybe the director doesn't like the script and they don't want to say that publically? Or maybe the director has had enough of Fox. His other two projects are at other studios so he hasn't exactly built a nest there.
I guess I'll just have to be a Transformers fan. Those movies run on time!