http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/another-fox-shocker-is-ruper-wyatt-exiting-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/

They spelled it wrong, not me! >: (


From: Jeff K.
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:35 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: "Rise" director leaving sequel?


Deadline Hollywood reports that Rupert Wyatt isn't happy with the release date of May 2014 and doesn't feel there will be enough time to make it. Fox is happy with the script and wants that release date. So it may be adios.
I'll miss him, but if that's the case, who should direct?

http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/another-fox-shocker-is-rupert-wyatt-exiting-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/

I now officially have a really bad feeling about this.What a total, total disaster.The only saving grace, for me, would be if Andy Serkis steps in as director.Is Apes cursed? Complete buzz kill.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> OK, the idea that they don't have enough time to make "Dawn of the POTA"? I find that hard to believe, Mr. Smart. Three years is the average between sequels and lately they've been pushing it up to two. Plus, supposedly they've got a script they like, so they're ready to go.
> So is it something else? Maybe the director doesn't like the script and they don't want to say that publically? Or maybe the director has had enough of Fox. His other two projects are at other studios so he hasn't exactly built a nest there.
> I guess I'll just have to be a Transformers fan. Those movies run on time!
>

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I don't have a bad feeling just yet. I am disappointed since Wyatt did such a good job with Rise. I do find it odd that this came out just a few days after the Rothman announcement. My concern is that the new management at FOX may look at the new POTA series as Rothman's baby and have little interest in it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I now officially have a really bad feeling about this.What a total, total disaster.The only saving grace, for me, would be if Andy Serkis steps in as director.Is Apes cursed? Complete buzz kill.John, Scrolls.
>

I assume you mean the 1968 version of POTA, not the 2001 remake. ;-)

Thanks again for all the pics. Hope you like the group.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Blass <magnesium68@...> wrote:
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> Hi
>
> I was always an ape fan , Cornelius first and Ceasar because his costume is not complex (green coverall),  i went to my local drugstore for make up and bought some NACARA more exactly the CONGO colour.and paint my nail black with a simple black maker.
>
> As for my favorite movies:
> Planet of the apes
> Escape from the planet of the apes
>
> Conquest of the planet of the apes
> Planet of the Apes the TV series
>

Recently re-watching Planet for the millionth time, I realized that the roar at the start of the hunt scene is never explained in the film. I checked the script and the roar is not in it, so I assume it was something improvised on the set or in post production.

I think I always thought the roar was something the apes did to drive the humans to the hunters. But what is the roar? Is it a gorilla? Is it another animal that preys on humans that the apes have captured?

Any thoughts?

Come on, there's nothing wrong with 3 years between sequels. There's something else going on here, whether it's he doesn't like the script or, what some are suggesting, he doesn't like his deal. What I find interesting is how close this is to Tom Rothman's announcement of leaving. That was announced last Friday and now Monday this. Just maybe Rothman was his bro (which would be rare, since filmmakers seemed to hate him). I don't know what the deal is, I just think there's more to it then the time factor. Three years between sequels is actually generous these days.
What I don't understand is he was contracted to do the sequel. He had to postpone "Londongrad" because of it. I guess you can't force someone to make a movie they don't want to, as long as they try (working on the script, etc.).


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:14 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Rupert Wyatt not directing Dawn





Well, now you see why I said so many times that there was no way a sequel would be coming out in 2013 -- Wyatt doesn't think that even a May, 2014 release date is enough time to do the kind of film he'd like to do. If the suits at Fox had any brains, they'd cancel that release date and give Wyatt all the time he needs. What is the rush anyway? It isn't like a good movie isn't going to get the audience it deserves no matter when it's released if it's a truly good movie that people are waiting for.

But, I've also said that I don't have high hopes for DAWN, which I hope I'm wrong about, but I guess, if Fox sticks to it's release date, it'll all now depend on who directs, but I've already got a very bad feeling about it. Keep your fingers crossed.

I always thought it was either a special horn the Gorillas used- Or all the Gorillas yelling a battle cry of sorts--
or some sound effect to get your attention and kick in the "Hunt" theme-

or that's what's always floated through my cranium
;-)

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

Recently re-watching Planet for the millionth time, I realized that the roar at the start of the hunt scene is never explained in the film. I checked the script and the roar is not in it, so I assume it was something improvised on the set or in post production.

I think I always thought the roar was something the apes did to drive the humans to the hunters. But what is the roar? Is it a gorilla? Is it another animal that preys on humans that the apes have captured?

Any thoughts?

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I don't agree with this. For starters, it's still basically the same people at Fox. Jim Gianopulos has been Rothman's cohort for over a decade and he's now running Fox. "Rise" did incredible biz despite skepticism ("Nobody knows anything" - William Goldman). Perhaps they will kill a movie in development but they won't kill a hot franchise. Fox WILL do a POTA sequel one way or another. I think probably they will move on without Rupert Wyatt. They hold the cards.


From: jamesa1102
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:15 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: The director




I don't have a bad feeling just yet. I am disappointed since Wyatt did such a good job with Rise. I do find it odd that this came out just a few days after the Rothman announcement. My concern is that the new management at FOX may look at the new POTA series as Rothman's baby and have little interest in it.

You know far more about what's going on at the studios than I do, so I hope you're right. I have no doubt that FOX will do another POTA film. The real question if it will maintain the level of quality established by Rise.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I don't agree with this. For starters, it's still basically the same people at Fox. Jim Gianopulos has been Rothman's cohort for over a decade and he's now running Fox. "Rise" did incredible biz despite skepticism ("Nobody knows anything" - William Goldman). Perhaps they will kill a movie in development but they won't kill a hot franchise. Fox WILL do a POTA sequel one way or another. I think probably they will move on without Rupert Wyatt. They hold the cards.
>
>

Now that Rupert Wyatt is out, who would be everyone's choice to direct Dawn?

My choice would be Peter Jackson but he's tied up with the Hobbit films.

I always assumed the "roar" was something to scare the humans. Like the "din" described in Boulle's novel. Not a gorilla.


From: jamesa1102
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:36 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] What is the roar?




Recently re-watching Planet for the millionth time, I realized that the roar at the start of the hunt scene is never explained in the film. I checked the script and the roar is not in it, so I assume it was something improvised on the set or in post production.

I think I always thought the roar was something the apes did to drive the humans to the hunters. But what is the roar? Is it a gorilla? Is it another animal that preys on humans that the apes have captured?

Any thoughts?

Don't forget, Rupert Wyatt was in the same situation. "Here's the script. Do you want to do it?".
He went through the trial by fire. He had to jump in and do "Rise" in a little over a year.
What's incredible is he has the chance to do a big movie with much more freedom and he's turning it down (with double the time he had to shoot "Rise").
But if he exits and goes to one of those other projects he stands to make more money. Hmmm.
As for you, Haristas, it's not about the time. Fox has a script they like, and the director has almost two years to make the movie. At this point I don't blame Fox. Something else is going on.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:38 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: The director






I don't have a bad feeling just yet. I am disappointed since Wyatt did such a good job with Rise. I do find it odd that this came out just a few days after the Rothman announcement. My concern is that the new management at FOX may look at the new POTA series as Rothman's baby and have little interest in it.

Money talks and Fox wants to make money. APES makes money for Fox. What we the fans should want is the best possible movie they can make. If they find someone who agrees to direct this sequel, but has no problems with whatever script they've already developed, and agrees to the May, 2014 release date, then I'd start to worry about the quality of this thing... really, really worry,... because that's an indication that the director Fox has got is a hack. If, on the other hand, Fox agrees with a director that wants his own writer(s) on the project, and wants the release date pushed out further, then I think we can relax a bit.

Just remember the old proverb, "All good things come to those that wait."

The problem with "Transformers" was bad scripts but it shows you can do a big FX movie every two years. They are giving Wyatt 3 years. They've spent a year developing the script. If he spends the rest of this year gearing up and shoots in early 2013 they'd have a year to do post. This release date was announced a long time ago. The only recent problems I can think of are that "The Hobbit" was recently announced for a third film. That might be stretching WETA too thin. And of course, Tom Rothman leaving, if he was a Rupert Wyatt champion. Dunno, but on the face of it I don't see a problem with the 3 years since "Rise". "Rise" had less time.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:24 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: The director






OK, the idea that they don't have enough time to make "Dawn of the POTA"? I find that hard to believe, Mr. Smart. Three years is the average between sequels and lately they've been pushing it up to two. Plus, supposedly they've got a script they like, so they're ready to go.
So is it something else? Maybe the director doesn't like the script and they don't want to say that publicly? Or maybe the director has had enough of Fox. His other two projects are at other studios so he hasn't exactly built a nest there.
I guess I'll just have to be a Transformers fan. Those movies run on time!




Yeah, and the Transformer movies are juvenile pieces of pop culture crap that just as movies suck big time!

I agree that there may be more going on here than is publicly stated, in fact, I'm sure of it, but I, knowing the film industry as I think I do, don't find anything hard to believe.

I would imagine that everyone involved with DAWN wants to make a bigger, more complicated movie than RISE was, but hopefully also a BETTER movie, so, take you're time, Fox, take your time. I for one could wait until 2015 or 2016 for that better sequel. This wanting something as soon as possible mentality, that damn near guarantees it'll be crap -- so stop wishing for crap!

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, now you see why I said so many times that there was no way a sequel would be coming out in 2013 -- Wyatt doesn't think that even a May, 2014 release date is enough time to do the kind of film he'd like to do. If the suits at Fox had any brains, they'd cancel that release date and give Wyatt all the time he needs. What is the rush anyway? It isn't like a good movie isn't going to get the audience it deserves no matter when it's released if it's a truly good movie that people are waiting for.
>
> But, I've also said that I don't have high hopes for DAWN, which I hope I'm wrong about, but I guess, if Fox sticks to it's release date, it'll all now depend on who directs, but I've already got a very bad feeling about it. Keep your fingers crossed.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:30 pm
> Subject: [pota] Rupert Wyatt not directing Dawn
>
>
>
>
>
> Bad news. Rupert Wyatt will not be directing Dawn of the POTA.
> http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=67429
>

Alex Proyas, just love "Dark City", John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Now that Rupert Wyatt is out, who would be everyone's choice to direct
> Dawn?
>
> My choice would be Peter Jackson but he's tied up with the Hobbit films.
>

I always assumed it was a special type of horn to scare humans!

That's another thing. It's not like a "Batman" film where it's going to be this big epic (and even then, Christopher Nolan was doing other films between Batman). This is cheapskate Fox and unless it's James Cameron or George Lucas at the helm, the budget will be limited. So don't think it's this big daunting movie that Wyatt is facing. It's just not.
The timeline is not the issue. Something else is going on.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:14 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Rupert Wyatt not directing Dawn





Well, now you see why I said so many times that there was no way a sequel would be coming out in 2013 -- Wyatt doesn't think that even a May, 2014 release date is enough time to do the kind of film he'd like to do. If the suits at Fox had any brains, they'd cancel that release date and give Wyatt all the time he needs. What is the rush anyway? It isn't like a good movie isn't going to get the audience it deserves no matter when it's released if it's a truly good movie that people are waiting for.

But, I've also said that I don't have high hopes for DAWN, which I hope I'm wrong about, but I guess, if Fox sticks to it's release date, it'll all now depend on who directs, but I've already got a very bad feeling about it. Keep your fingers crossed.


-----Original Message-----
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To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:30 pm
Subject: [pota] Rupert Wyatt not directing Dawn



Bad news. Rupert Wyatt will not be directing Dawn of the POTA.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=67429

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Could it be that the "Epic scope" that the sequel could be, considering the subject matter of the sequel, two stories sort of soeak in one, Apes and Contagion" that they wanted a more experienced Director? I feel Fox is wrong and Wyatt would have Risen to the challenge. ??????John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
>
>
> That's another thing. It's not like a "Batman" film where it's going to be this big epic (and even then, Christopher Nolan was doing other films between Batman). This is cheapskate Fox and unless it's James Cameron or George Lucas at the helm, the budget will be limited. So don't think it's this big daunting movie that Wyatt is facing. It's just not.
> The timeline is not the issue. Something else is going on.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And where exactly are you getting this information, that it's not going to be a "big, daunting movie" and that the "budget will be limited"? Do you know someone inside Fox, Veetus, or are you just blowing smoke out your ass?
>
> I don't know anyone inside Fox, but I would imagine that the plan is for a bigger movie than RISE, with a budget close to $150 Million. Just a hunch, but what Veetus thinks it'll be -- that's not the sequel I want to see.
>
> As to the "something else that is going on"..... most probably there is something else. My further "hunch" is that they don't yet have a script they're happy with, or at least, one that Wyatt was happy with. He may have requested further time to develop it that would have meant pushing the release date further out. I'm sure the suits at Fox would have balked at this because we all know they want to make money!!!!!
>
> So, very probably Wyatt simply decided, "I'm outta here." And you know what I think, "Good for him." He's got his career to think of and if he has any brains, he'll put that first before doing a sequel simply because the ever APES-milking studio that is Fox demands it.
>
> Even Arthur P. Jacobs eventually had had enough of Fox's demands and said, "I'm outta here."
>
> And yeah, Veetus, you're right... APES isn't like a "Batman" movie... APES require smarter scripts than that comic book stuff.
>

Why, you ungrateful...! I give you my wisdom and this is the thanks I get?!

How do I know it won't be epic? It's penny-pinching Fox. I don't doubt it will be a $150 million budget ("Rise" was $100 million). But it won't be like the $250 million+ budget of "Batman Rises". And that behemoth was made 4 years after the last one and Nolan directed "Inception" in between. When you think of a Fox "epic", think "X-Men".
As for the script, Deadline sez Fox is happy with it. Drew McWeeney sez "I've heard that the script is good and the premise is strong this time". And they know people. Don't believe me? Check out my Weeney:
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/rupert-wyatt-may-drop-out-of-directing-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes
It's possible Wyatt doesn't like the script but he's been developing it for a year (as opposed to "Rise" where he was invited late to the party). And that release date was announced months ago. Whatever happened seems tied to Rothman leaving because it happened right on top of that.
And now some are calling for Andy Serkis to direct, since he's been directing some of the "Hobbit" and directing is very hobbit-forming. And he knows the motion capture and WETA like few people, instead of having to school a new director. Sounds like a good idea.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:20 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Rupert Wyatt not directing Dawn






That's another thing. It's not like a "Batman" film where it's going to be this big epic (and even then, Christopher Nolan was doing other films between Batman). This is cheapskate Fox and unless it's James Cameron or George Lucas at the helm, the budget will be limited. So don't think it's this big daunting movie that Wyatt is facing. It's just not.
The timeline is not the issue. Something else is going on.





And where exactly are you getting this information, that it's not going to be a "big, daunting movie" and that the "budget will be limited"? Do you know someone inside Fox, Veetus, or are you just blowing smoke out your ass?

I don't know anyone inside Fox, but I would imagine that the plan is for a bigger movie than RISE, with a budget close to $150 Million. Just a hunch, but what Veetus thinks it'll be -- that's not the sequel I want to see.

As to the "something else that is going on"..... most probably there is something else. My further "hunch" is that they don't yet have a script they're happy with, or at least, one that Wyatt was happy with. He may have requested further time to develop it that would have meant pushing the release date further out. I'm sure the suits at Fox would have balked at this because we all know they want to make money!!!!!

So, very probably Wyatt simply decided, "I'm outta here." And you know what I think, "Good for him." He's got his career to think of and if he has any brains, he'll put that first before doing a sequel simply because the ever APES-milking studio that is Fox demands it.

Even Arthur P. Jacobs eventually had had enough of Fox's demands and said, "I'm outta here."

And yeah, Veetus, you're right... APES isn't like a "Batman" movie... APES require smarter scripts than that comic book stuff.

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If you say so. ; )
Not all internet is alike. Some people have industry sources and are reliable. Some sites are more equal than others. That's why everybody else quotes the same few sites. You have to learn who to trust. They're not always right but who is? Mr. McWeeny is known for getting early scripts or having those sources. Deadline is the best for knowing the score. See how it works, Haristas?


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:52 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Rupert Wyatt not directing Dawn






http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/rupert-wyatt-may-drop-out-of-directing-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes
This article is 99% opinion -- from no less than "Moriarty" at AintitCool?!!!! Please. And his real name is McWeeny! Hysterical -- and 1% rumor. "I've heard that the script is good and the premise is strong..." That's nice, but anyone can say anything on the Internet, and you're under no obligation to site your source! Wow! Hey, everybody, I've heard a thing of great import regarding this Rupert Wyatt situation -- or better yet, I've actually read it -- it's this, that "something else that is going on here."

See how it works, Veetus.

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I was at it again, dragging "Battlestar Galactica" actresses into the POTA fray. This time there was two of them (and well dressed) as I brought up the news of Rupert Wyatt's possible departure from "Dawn of the POTA" and suggested the BSG crew should hijack it (good show). It's around the 1 hr. 9 minute mark.

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I've read that Andy Serkis is doing second unit on The Hobbit and, given the nature of the WETA effects, you could make an argument for Andy being the best placed person to direct the APES characters.I'd hate a November date and would hope that FOX really go for it with DAWN and do a massive 'event' summer launch.If Wyatt wants out,then bye bye Rupry baby--the history of APES is that the concept is far,far bigger and more enduring than any one director.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
> Andy Serkis directing DAWN would be a huge mistake, and I'd bet he has enough brains not to take up the very daunting task.
>
> If Wyatt is really leaving, I'd expect news of a new director in about a month. If Wyatt decides to stay, I'll bet it's on condition that DAWN gets a new release date, probably November or December 2014.
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Maybe Andy could just help out (like he's doing with "The Hobbit") and then Rupert would have time to finish his movie.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:21 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"






I've read that Andy Serkis is doing second unit on The Hobbit and, given the nature of the WETA effects, you could make an argument for Andy being the best placed person to direct the APES characters.
It's one thing to be doing second-unit directing on somebody else's movie and quite another to take on an entire big budget, SFX extravaganza AND be playing the lead. Serkis would really have to be concerned about his health, or at least his family would. Directing a major motion picture is extremely stressful and exhausting.

Don't do it, Andy.

Wonder who own a Pota costume and like to wear it in public place?

We i'm one of those ,who else?

As often as I can (although I hate the word "cosplay")

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Wonder who own a Pota costume and like to wear it in public place?

We i'm one of those ,who else?

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me too. hate that word but I love to be in full ape gear.

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On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Jeff Barkley <skintricks62@...> wrote:

As often as I can (although I hate the word "cosplay")

Jeff B

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Bill <magnesium68@...> wrote:

Wonder who own a Pota costume and like to wear it in public place?

We i'm one of those ,who else?

I agree it would probably be too much for Andy to direct.I just would like someone who seems to 'get' Apes and the technology available.Peter Jackson would be too involved in The Hobbit, I'm guessing.So long as it's a strong script and Andy and WETA are involved, I wonder,really, just how important the director would be in the grand scheme of things? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
>
> I've read that Andy Serkis is doing second unit on The Hobbit and, given the nature of the WETA effects, you could make an argument for Andy being the best placed person to direct the APES characters.
>
> It's one thing to be doing second-unit directing on somebody else's movie and quite another to take on an entire big budget, SFX extravaganza AND be playing the lead. Serkis would really have to be concerned about his health, or at least his family would. Directing a major motion picture is extremely stressful and exhausting.
>
> Don't do it, Andy.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: johnroche49 <johnroche49@...>
> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 21, 2012 7:59 am
> Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
>
>
> I've read that Andy Serkis is doing second unit on The Hobbit and, given the nature of the WETA effects, you could make an argument for Andy being the best placed person to direct the APES characters.I'd hate a November date and would hope that FOX really go for it with DAWN and do a massive 'event' summer launch.If Wyatt wants out,then bye bye Rupry baby--the history of APES is that the concept is far,far bigger and more enduring than any one director.John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
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> > Andy Serkis directing DAWN would be a huge mistake, and I'd bet he has enough brains not to take up the very daunting task.
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> > If Wyatt is really leaving, I'd expect news of a new director in about a month. If Wyatt decides to stay, I'll bet it's on condition that DAWN gets a new release date, probably November or December 2014.
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I've got an Gorilla bullet belt and TV Series style foam rifle---but I don't wear them.Very often.I had the sheer joy of playing a gorilla guard at an event in 2007 and the liberating effect of marching around,with nobody knowing who you are, is just astonishing.If you ever, ever get the chance to do this, grab it, it really gives an insight into what the original actors went through.I got to shake hands with Colin Baker (the sixth Doctor) who gave me a resounding 'Greetings!', was told to 'behave' by Toyah Wilcox, stared at by Ingrid Pitt, bonded with the Power Rangers, exchanged salutes with Imperial Storm Troopers and made a friend for life of The Alien.And later was left looking like Alice Cooper on meth.Heartily recommended.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Barkley <skintricks62@...> wrote:
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> As often as I can (although I hate the word "cosplay")
>
> Jeff B
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Bill <magnesium68@...> wrote:
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> > **
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> > Wonder who own a Pota costume and like to wear it in public place?
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True! The effect of walking around in an apes suit is unbelievable but i notice that the average age of the people who really got excited to see me as "ceasar" were in there fourties or 6 and under.

I know the word "cosplay" is connected to manga and japan but this is were the youngster are these days, so to put a little POTA in there life is a good thing and never know they could go apes in the futur.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I've got an Gorilla bullet belt and TV Series style foam rifle---but I don't wear them.Very often.I had the sheer joy of playing a gorilla guard at an event in 2007 and the liberating effect of marching around,with nobody knowing who you are, is just astonishing.If you ever, ever get the chance to do this, grab it, it really gives an insight into what the original actors went through.I got to shake hands with Colin Baker (the sixth Doctor) who gave me a resounding 'Greetings!', was told to 'behave' by Toyah Wilcox, stared at by Ingrid Pitt, bonded with the Power Rangers, exchanged salutes with Imperial Storm Troopers and made a friend for life of The Alien.And later was left looking like Alice Cooper on meth.Heartily recommended.John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Barkley <skintricks62@> wrote:
> >
> > As often as I can (although I hate the word "cosplay")
> >
> > Jeff B
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> > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Bill <magnesium68@> wrote:
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> > > **
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> > > Wonder who own a Pota costume and like to wear it in public place?
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:

>
> I've got an Gorilla bullet belt and TV Series style foam rifle---but I don't wear them.Very often.I had the sheer joy of playing a gorilla guard at an event in 2007

And the great thing is John doesn't need any appliances or make-up to play a gorilla.

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Rob, I looked far from 'great'--I can recall Ballard and my Wife taking bets on how soon my ass would start showing.YOU, however, are the Cosplay Apes King, by virtue of actually participating in a scene with Ron Haper, which he directed,whilst costumed as a truly convincing Conquest gorilla!! The pics from that are just wonderful--Ron looks like he's having the time of his life!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:
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>
> I remember that day well John. You looked great, sadly I missed out on the chance that day but made up for it since.
> Rob R
>

Andy has been doing readings at a Tolkein 75th anniversary over here.Got to say, the Hobbit trailers I've seen don't really draw me into the franchise.And Gollum's voice sounds more and more like a really bad fart in the bath.Also, in unconnected news, James Franco is reported to be setting up a band called 'The Daddies'---maybe he's trying to work through the loss of Charles? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Maybe Andy could just help out (like he's doing with "The Hobbit") and then Rupert would have time to finish his movie.
>
>
> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:21 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I've read that Andy Serkis is doing second unit on The Hobbit and, given the nature of the WETA effects, you could make an argument for Andy being the best placed person to direct the APES characters.
> It's one thing to be doing second-unit directing on somebody else's movie and quite another to take on an entire big budget, SFX extravaganza AND be playing the lead. Serkis would really have to be concerned about his health, or at least his family would. Directing a major motion picture is extremely stressful and exhausting.
>
> Don't do it, Andy.
>

Huh? What? Tell us more!


From: johnroche49
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:23 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: How many of you are into POTA cosplay?



Rob, I looked far from 'great'--I can recall Ballard and my Wife taking bets on how soon my ass would start showing.YOU, however, are the Cosplay Apes King, by virtue of actually participating in a scene with Ron Haper, which he directed,whilst costumed as a truly convincing Conquest gorilla!! The pics from that are just wonderful--Ron looks like he's having the time of his life!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:
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> I remember that day well John. You looked great, sadly I missed out on the chance that day but made up for it since.
> Rob R
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We had a small feature in an earlier Scrolls, but, if he can, I hope Rob can share some more pics---it was at a Cult TV event in 2007 and Ron was a star guest---Rob surprised him as a gun toting gorilla and Ron enjoyed it so much he directed a re-enactment.It's a priceless Apes moment.That I missed.I did get to say 'Thankyou for Virdon' to Ron in person, which still makes me feel good.Over to you Rob! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Huh? What? Tell us more!
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:23 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: How many of you are into POTA cosplay?
>
>
>
> Rob, I looked far from 'great'--I can recall Ballard and my Wife taking bets on how soon my ass would start showing.YOU, however, are the Cosplay Apes King, by virtue of actually participating in a scene with Ron Haper, which he directed,whilst costumed as a truly convincing Conquest gorilla!! The pics from that are just wonderful--Ron looks like he's having the time of his life!! John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, rob reading <readingrob@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I remember that day well John. You looked great, sadly I missed out on the chance that day but made up for it since.
> > Rob R
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>

Do we know when ROTPOTA started filming? It seems to take a ridiculous amount of time to make a movie nowadays--any film that takes more than two years will be committeed to death before it hits the screens.The loss of momentum is heart breaking.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Tom "owned POTA's ass for 12 years" Rothman will spend the rest of the year transitioning out of his job as head of 20th Century Fox and then will go directly to his new job producing Steven Spielberg's next picture, "Robopocalypse", to be distributed by Fox. On topic: "Robopocalypse" and "Dawn of the POTA" will vie for the title of Best Apocalyptic Sci-Fi Movie of 2014.
> Food for thought: "Robopocalypse" is a big sci-fi epic that doesn't start filming until next year and opens a month before the "Rise" sequel. Why can't Rupert Wyatt do "Dawn of the POTA" in the same time period? The more I know, the less I know. : (
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/tom-rothman-to-produce-robopocalypse-anne-hathaway-in-talks-to-join-chris-hemsworth/
>

"Rise" had it's "Christmas draft" that got it made late 2009/2010. Wyatt got hired early 2010 and they filmed that summer. Post was late 2010 - 2011. Test audiences didn't want to see Franco killed so they reshot the ending 7/4/11. Released Aug. 2011.
Wyatt had way less time for "Rise" but he was nobody and needed it. After "Rise" he could probably get paid more to do something else than the sequel. But I thought he is contractually bound to the sequel?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Do we know when ROTPOTA started filming? It seems to take a ridiculous amount of time to make a movie nowadays--any film that takes more than two years will be committeed to death before it hits the screens.The loss of momentum is heart breaking.John, Scrolls.
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Looks like Rupert Wyatt is indeed leaving the POTA and Fox is ape-parently throwing out a dragnet to find a new one. The helmer will probably be announced soon because Fox seems to be sticking to their 5/23/14 release date.

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Hey William,

Welcome back! You were missed. And thanks for the pics!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
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Why does Wyatt think it will take so long to make a movie? Sony have announced Spidey 2 for May 2014 and producer Matt Tolmuch says,in this month's SciFiNow mag, 'writers have been hired'.DAWN has had a 'go' script for a while, so why does DAWN need far more time than Spidey 2? Rupert's going might be a blessing--who wants to wait until 2020 for Apes 3? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Looks like Rupert Wyatt is indeed leaving the POTA and Fox is ape-parently throwing out a dragnet to find a new one. The helmer will probably be announced soon because Fox seems to be sticking to their 5/23/14 release date.
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/top-emerging-directors-on-foxs-short-list-to-helm-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/
>

Matt Reeves sounds like the favorite to get the POTA directing gig. From what I understand they are interviewing many people so that might not be the case. Anyway, I checked out Reeves' two main directing credits, "Cloverfield" and "Let Me In" (he also did the 1996 comedy "The Pallbearer" which I haven't seen). "Cloverfield" I saw before, didn't like it then, didn't like it now. The high concept is that it's from the POV of a video camera as a monster attacks Manhattan. Cool, but it just belabors the point, the characters aren't interesting (which is definitely necessary for such an experiment) and basically the filming is supposed to be from a home video camera so the filming just sucks. Perhaps it would work as a short subject but damn it's aggravating as a feature. That said, I can't fault the direction, based on what they tried to do. I guess the director is responsible to make sure the characters are interesting. But beyond that, it's a high wire filming act and it works on that level (it just isn't entertaining to me).
Those who want to know what Matt Reeves is capable of, "Let Me In" is the film to watch. Basically it makes a vampire both sympathetic and scary. And I could easily see this translated to POTA. Especially with "Dawn", where the apes are pretty much the villains (presumably they are taking advantage of a human race fighting a deadly virus) but also sympathetic, which is what POTA is famous for (the apes have never been monsters, we know where they are coming from). "Let Me In" is a good film and also shows that Reeves can do the ambiguous/sympathetic monster. And I also can't complain about his filmmaking technique, camera angles, etc. If Fox goes with him I won't complain.

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I've done it but would have to spend Halloween in Alaska to do it again.

It's not much better than wearing a mask you can't take off. And it

does take a lot of time and effort to do. You have to be up for it.

Not something you'd ever want to do if you had any allergies.

And some do have latex allergies.  Can't blow your nose.

 

 

In a message dated 9/22/2012 12:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

me too.  hate that word but I love to be in full ape gear.

Jessica.

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Like I've said, I think the "not enough time" thing is a polite way of masking something else. Wyatt really came in late to "Rise". He had no input on the script (except on set, etc.). It was like, "Here's the script, you have one year to do it. This mission, should you choose to accept it, will self destruct in...". For "Dawn", he had lots more time, he was there for the script development (or should have been) and the announcement of May 2014 as a release date came a long time ago. I still think it's interesting that Wyatt's departure came days after Tom Rothman's announcement he was leaving Fox. Was Rothman Wyatt's ally at Fox? Dunno. All I know is I don't buy the "not enough time" scenario. Maybe it's true but I doubt it.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:05 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: hunt for a POTA director is on



Why does Wyatt think it will take so long to make a movie? Sony have announced Spidey 2 for May 2014 and producer Matt Tolmuch says,in this month's SciFiNow mag, 'writers have been hired'.DAWN has had a 'go' script for a while, so why does DAWN need far more time than Spidey 2? Rupert's going might be a blessing--who wants to wait until 2020 for Apes 3? John, Scrolls.

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Cloverfield was one of the many 'found footage' movies that supposedly provides a documentary, first person account of events (Blair Witch, Quarantine, etc). Aside from a few nice scenes, it fails on two accounts. It was not credible (some of the shoots would not likely be captured on camera if it was a real situation) and it was BORING, with boring characters. I'm very much a 'giant monster' fan and was looking forward to this one, but despite a lot of hype and even some positive reviews, I was terribly disappointed.

Let One In, is a far inferior copy of the Swedish "Let the Right One In". Watch the original.

All this to say that I'm dismayed that Reeves is now being considered to helm POTA. Not good news. Not good news at all.

Dario

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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:17:33 AM
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Matt Reeves sounds like the favorite to get the POTA directing gig. From what I understand they are interviewing many people so that might not be the case. Anyway, I checked out Reeves' two main directing credits, "Cloverfield" and "Let Me In" (he also did the 1996 comedy "The Pallbearer" which I haven't seen). "Cloverfield" I saw before, didn't like it then, didn't like it now. The high concept is that it's from the POV of a video camera as a monster attacks Manhattan. Cool, but it just belabors the point, the characters aren't interesting (which is definitely necessary for such an experiment) and basically the filming is supposed to be from a home video camera so the filming just sucks. Perhaps it would work as a short subject but damn it's aggravating as a feature. That said, I can't fault the direction, based on what they tried to do. I guess the director is responsible to make sure the characters are interesting. But beyond that, it's a high wire filming act and it works on that level (it just isn't entertaining to me).
Those who want to know what Matt Reeves is capable of, "Let Me In" is the film to watch. Basically it makes a vampire both sympathetic and scary. And I could easily see this translated to POTA. Especially with "Dawn", where the apes are pretty much the villains (presumably they are taking advantage of a human race fighting a deadly virus) but also sympathetic, which is what POTA is famous for (the apes have never been monsters, we know where they are coming from). "Let Me In" is a good film and also shows that Reeves can do the ambiguous/sympathetic monster. And I also can't complain about his filmmaking technique, camera angles, etc. If Fox goes with him I won't complain.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

>
>
> Let One In, is a far inferior copy of the Swedish "Let the Right One In". Watch the original.
>

I didn't think Let Me In was bad, but it was unnecessary and a pale imitation of the superior Let the Right One In (great film that's not a typical vampire story, and also deals with other themes). Cloverfield I sort of enjoyed in a shut brain off kind of way, but I'd hardly call it a film that is akin in any way to Apes. Can't say I'm that impressed with Matt Reeves, but there could be worse, I suppose.

Now del Toro, on the other hand... Doubt it'll happen, but I'd be really looking forward to him helming the film if that came about.


Graham

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Over here, we've never quite felt comfortable with blokes called 'Rupert', anyway.I was always a little bit worried about his 'Full Metal Jacket' thoughts on DAWN, anyway, so, hopefully, whoever gets the chair will stick with the thoughtful approach to Apes.In some ways, it's more exciting to see what a new guy brings.There's no hint that Andy Serkis was bonded to Wyatt, is there? I can't lose both of them....John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Like I've said, I think the "not enough time" thing is a polite way of masking something else. Wyatt really came in late to "Rise". He had no input on the script (except on set, etc.). It was like, "Here's the script, you have one year to do it. This mission, should you choose to accept it, will self destruct in...". For "Dawn", he had lots more time, he was there for the script development (or should have been) and the announcement of May 2014 as a release date came a long time ago. I still think it's interesting that Wyatt's departure came days after Tom Rothman's announcement he was leaving Fox. Was Rothman Wyatt's ally at Fox? Dunno. All I know is I don't buy the "not enough time" scenario. Maybe it's true but I doubt it.
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:05 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: hunt for a POTA director is on
>
>
>
> Why does Wyatt think it will take so long to make a movie? Sony have announced Spidey 2 for May 2014 and producer Matt Tolmuch says,in this month's SciFiNow mag, 'writers have been hired'.DAWN has had a 'go' script for a while, so why does DAWN need far more time than Spidey 2? Rupert's going might be a blessing--who wants to wait until 2020 for Apes 3? John, Scrolls.
>

I have always, instinctively, naturally, logically and automatically regarded the TV Series as taking place in the exact same universe as the movies.Same dress styles, institutions, culture etc,etc.I was reading Journey into Terror, the Third Gospel of St George, and on page 133 there is an exchange between Burke and Gales about the state of the world.Burke says
'You think the solution to every problem comes from bashing someone over the head' and Galen retorts' It worked didn't it?'.
That, to me, is Galen recalling the legends of the events of CONQUEST.
John,Scrolls.

It's Friday! And that means the new issue of THE APE is now online.

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Also, check out the upgraded images on the group website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm & http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Art&Info.htm.

Have a great weekend everybody!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

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On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 6:30 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

It's Friday! And that means the new issue of THE APE is now online.

To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

Also, check out the upgraded images on the group website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm & http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Art&Info.htm.

Have a great weekend everybody!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

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• Marvel Archive
- Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies.
• Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
• Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
• The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel.
• The Mendez Dynasty - Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
• POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot.
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> dear group,  here is a great photo of charlton heston 1967. from william
>

Yes, Serkis and Wyatt seemed to bond on "Rise". They were talking about doing "Animal Farm" together. But that doesn't mean Serkis would quit "Apes".
You WON'T lose them both!


From: johnroche49
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 2:00 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: hunt for a POTA director is on



Over here, we've never quite felt comfortable with blokes called 'Rupert', anyway.I was always a little bit worried about his 'Full Metal Jacket' thoughts on DAWN, anyway, so, hopefully, whoever gets the chair will stick with the thoughtful approach to Apes.In some ways, it's more exciting to see what a new guy brings.There's no hint that Andy Serkis was bonded to Wyatt, is there? I can't lose both of them....John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Like I've said, I think the "not enough time" thing is a polite way of masking something else. Wyatt really came in late to "Rise". He had no input on the script (except on set, etc.). It was like, "Here's the script, you have one year to do it. This mission, should you choose to accept it, will self destruct in...". For "Dawn", he had lots more time, he was there for the script development (or should have been) and the announcement of May 2014 as a release date came a long time ago. I still think it's interesting that Wyatt's departure came days after Tom Rothman's announcement he was leaving Fox. Was Rothman Wyatt's ally at Fox? Dunno. All I know is I don't buy the "not enough time" scenario. Maybe it's true but I doubt it.
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:05 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: hunt for a POTA director is on
>
>
>
> Why does Wyatt think it will take so long to make a movie? Sony have announced Spidey 2 for May 2014 and producer Matt Tolmuch says,in this month's SciFiNow mag, 'writers have been hired'.DAWN has had a 'go' script for a while, so why does DAWN need far more time than Spidey 2? Rupert's going might be a blessing--who wants to wait until 2020 for Apes 3? John, Scrolls.
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OK, we only have a little time. Fox should make their announcement soon if they want to hit their 2014 release date (and if not, they should keep Rupert Wyatt). So who should direct the next POTA movie? My choice is Michael Rymer or Oliver Stone. No wait, hear me out! Where are you going?
Michael Rymer: The main director on "Battlestar Galactica". "Galactica" is a walking demo reel for POTA, and indeed the main writer saw that and included many POTA references in the show. Rymer knows how to mix FX with apocalyptic drama and emotion. Those who have seen the show know what I'm talking about. Even those who didn't like how it turned out (I loved it) can admit the early seasons were very POTA-like and it doesn't take a genius to know that a Michael Rymer POTA would rock. The sequels to "Thor" and "Capt. America" both have chosen TV directors to carry on their franchises. This year Marvel can do no wrong so perhaps Fox will follow suit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ83WZwUjTI
Oliver Stone: Well, Stone was the original big name thrown out to revive POTA 20 years ago next year. I'll never give up on imagining Stone's take on POTA. Back then he was hot sh*t; today he could use a big hit. Probably Stone would never do it in a million years. But I can't give up the ghost.
OK, so that's my suggestions. Who do you want to see direct it? The sky's the limit. Yeah, Fox had that "short list" of directors but you never know. There was a reported "short list" for "Rise" and then Rupert Wyatt, a left-field choice that wasn't on it, got the job. Probably Fox wants to go cheap, so ideas like Spielberg, Scorsese, etc. are not reasonable. Think directors that want to go to the next level: new directors, TV directors, etc.
Probably Fox will announce the director soon so now is the time to throw in your favorites.

I hope not---you kind of feel that Andy is the more important of the two.Maybe once we get our director, we can settle into the fun of rumours and set pics and start enjoying ourselves.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Yes, Serkis and Wyatt seemed to bond on "Rise". They were talking about doing "Animal Farm" together. But that doesn't mean Serkis would quit "Apes".
> You WON'T lose them both!
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My stupid wife like the New York Dolls and we watched their video of 'Dance Like a Monkey' last night.It's an animated thing and has, gasp, an Apes homage in it, with Taylor at the Statue of Liberty.Set me wondering about just how many Apes cameos and tributes there must have been over the years, not just The Simpsons and Family Guy, but a gazillion others.It would be cool to have an index of 'em.John, Scrolls.

Just had an email dsaying my Caesar figure has shipped!! The accessories that come with him look really cool, too! John.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_XEiV-l97o


From: johnroche49
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My stupid wife like the New York Dolls and we watched their video of 'Dance Like a Monkey' last night.It's an animated thing and has, gasp, an Apes homage in it, with Taylor at the Statue of Liberty.Set me wondering about just how many Apes cameos and tributes there must have been over the years, not just The Simpsons and Family Guy, but a gazillion others.It would be cool to have an index of 'em.John, Scrolls.

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In a way it's a good thing they weren't better.

It's because RISE was so profitable that DAWN is being made.

 

 

In a message dated 9/25/2012 10:28:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

 

Do we know when ROTPOTA started filming? It seems to take a ridiculous amount of time to make a movie nowadays--any film that takes more than two years will be committeed to death before it hits the screens.The loss of momentum is heart breaking.John, Scrolls.

When you're looking at big SFX movies, actual filming with actors can be completed in just a few weeks or a few months, but then it's like another year or more for the effects to be completed.  (And this is nothing new.  The original KING KONG took almost a year and a half to complete.)  I look at some of RISE and I wish they'd spent more time on the SFX, but more time also means more money, so a lot of the time when the effects are weak, it's more a case of, "The money just wasn't there."  I expect DAWN will have more effects, a larger budget, and so will take longer to complete.  Wyatt could be making the moves he is because he truly believes the project deserves more time and attention to be done as well as it can be.

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Matt Reeves In Deal To Direct `Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes'

http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/matt-reeves-in-deal-to-direct-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/

Here's someone who's happy Matt Reeves is doing POTA:

http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/cloverfield-director-matt-reeves-reportedly-set-for-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes

Is Reeves really doing it? Here's what he tweeted today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07NskEqxG_Y

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Matt Reeves ("Cloverfield", "Let Me In"). Probably we'll get a Michael Giacchino score.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/matt-reeves-in-deal-to-direct-dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/